Diesel-Electric Semi Truck - Everything You Want To Know
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- @EdisonMotors shows us North America's first electric logging semi truck, "Topsy"!
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0:00 Edison Motors "Topsy"
0:39 Who is Edison Motors?
4:15 The contest...
5:01 First time hauling
10:48 Diesel-electric logging truck overview
39:06 Hauling 100k lbs
42:20 What's next for Edison
45:57 Rich drives
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This is a prime example of what happens when Engineers and End users get together without the interference of design/marketing departments. Well done 👌
or government stooges.....
@@joeyelton407 I want to see the size of the fireball, the closest proximity items ignited, and how much water it takes to put the batteries out WHEN they burn. Not if, WHEN.
@crforfreedom7407 That's strike against current battery technology, not this design concept.....
@@joeyelton407 If the only viable power source is DEEPLY FLAWED (and it is!), then the entire concept, though very interesting, is a useless concept. We could have a great concept of a truck too; "If it only had something round to put under to make it move...." "Other than the fact it can't roll because we haven't invented good 'round things' on it to allow it to roll, it's a good concept".
Without tires, the entire truck concept is pointless. Without a practical power storage mechanism, the entire EV concept is pointless.
@@crforfreedom7407 I'm just glad that your opinion doesn't matter and that the world is going to move forward despite your kicking and screaming.
I've asked for 20 years why no one uses the diesel/hybrid drive for semis. When I first heard of Edison and their ideas I immediately began following the.. I really want to see them succeed.
it just makes so much sense
same when I was little I alayways wanted to do something similar to this but but they beat me too it. but honestly im not mad im excited to see what they can do
The fact locomotives have been doing it for at least 100 years. Its proven technology that just works.
@@TheBeeMan1994 Cars like the Prius have also proven this style of driveline in cars, though the big difference with car or trucks and trains is the restriction on GVW and size. Batteries have only recently come to a point where having a battery on a lorry has become a practical option. As in you don't lose too much carrying capacity, if any at all, so it's finally starting to make practical and economical sense to do these conversions.
Also I think that because Edison is basically building a century old proven concept, and they're using already existing frames as their platform, they have a good chance of succeeding. They're not trying to reinvent the wheel, which is a good thing in this case.
@@redramageit makes no sense at all. It is very inefficient and extremely heavy. That is the problem. Nothing beats a modern 600hp straight-six Diesel bolted to a light alloy automated gearbox when it comes to efficiency, power, weight and range.
The moment he showed the headlight in another video and said this is 100bucks easy to replace off the shelf . I felt that. I just paid a nonsensical amount of money on repairs . I wish you guys well . Not only is your approach to driveline impressive . The way you build the entire truck is with the mechanic and consumer in mind .
Another huge thing is the flat pane glass. Super cheap, any glass cutter shop can make them. Very cheap to replace. That's a big reason the big name brands use Co oles curved glass, so it can only be bought from the oem.
@@thorwaldjohanson2526 you can get most glass from aftermarket vehicle glass suppliers, too.
Bestt thing about it. If you don't like the headlights, just buy different ones. Wouldn't be difficult to just change them out.
Electrical Engineer from Texas here. Fantastic work, God bless you for building this practical working machine that has a good chance of finding its place in the market. And I mean the market, like drivers and owners will want to buy this. Not the "market" where the government shoves it down our throats.
The government does not shoved it down your throat, consumerism does. EV's and hybrids are being put together by private concerns, you can opt in at your leisure.
Do you really think that fully loaded F150's are forced on suburban residents ? NO they are purchased by idiots hauling a 5th wheel for a week of ''roughing it' to a trailer park with full hook-ups and wi-fi. Burning a shit load of fuel the rest of the year without reason
They're going to have to get through government regulation hurdles. And sadly this is where this brilliant design will die.
They already got blocked from receiving government funds that are earmarked for the development of environmental industrial technologies, which this 100% qualifies for.
Governments have gone rogue and don't work for us anymore
@@oliver9089they only got blocked because they realized it was a government scam and made it public knowledge.
So incredibly refreshing to see a company that is prioritizing maintenance with the consumer in mind instead of making a ton of money from making everything proprietary, and in the end that is what is going to bring in the sales.
making everything nearly impossible to get off with out breaking something.
yeah, one of the worst things about Tesla is they make everything proprietary, hate that crap so much. I wish more cars were like this, built with customer repairs in mind.
@@moonasha If I had money like elon Id totally make the easiest to repair and most reliable car I could, had the plans in my head for years but NO money to make it happen. Even thought of 3 cylinder diesels from tractors and a street legal 80mph car running on a predator engine from harbor freight.
Until they go public or get acquired
@@Dr.Mcstaby _WHY_ Can't cars bump into each other without catastrophic mayhem and huge bills? I accidentally bashed a little car in my land-cruiser in a car park once and _totaled_ it!
For me this is one of the most incredible and inspiring things on the internet right now. Everyone involved should be extremely proud. I love how you built it with off the shelf part that any trucker could get ahold of and fix it themselves.
Retired Canadian Trucker here. Im totally impressed by what you have built!... As soon as you mentioned that its possible to do "GLider Kits" my ears started itching to be 30 years younger again and bring a Semi Truck to you for conversion! This has to be the wave of the future for trucking!
When form follows function, it looks beautiful. A piece of equipment designed by the operator. What a concept.
I love how practical this guy is. Off the shelf standardized parts. Easy to work on. Too cool!!
If the off the shelf universal headlight can't be found you can probably find another model instead that works as well. It might look a bit wonky with two different headlights, but as long as it works it's good enough.
@@ehsnils Oh that's funny! It reminds me of Johnny Cash's song about building his car "...One Piece at a Time!" Nothing matched but he thought it was just too cool!
If Tesla has proven with their normal vehicles... Huge problem with right to repair...a monoloply on the repairs itself...
It's the biggest concern I have with transitional issues across the market....
probably take weeks minimum to get it fixed... Probably cost you an incredible amount too.... When enough people transition over supply change will be improved and the right to repair issues will hopefully be addressed...
Examples I can refer to : say a battery system having a cooling system malfunction due to road debris compromising the cooling system\fluid flow that runs through the battery pack... Instances where they state they will only replace the entire battery pack in one unit instead of fixing a hose or connector.. . Quoting the cost of $22,000 instead of a couple hundred dollars... . .
Can't imagine a semi truck then...
As an HET (Heavy Equipment Technician) for 40 years now in the Alberta oil patch, I'm surprised no one has taken this approach before. Rail has proven the power and efficiency of diesel electric for decades. Hybrid takes this to another level all together. Electric drive torque can't be beaten for lift, getting a load moving, and the smooth transition from stop to full speed is seamless.
I wish these guys well.
Look at the trucker/heavy equipment community. Unfortunately most of them don't really like change.
@@NeonFlaming0they think you can stop a pandemic by protesting
@@jankington216 you mean a flu hysteria
@@JD-yx7be what do you mean?
Was saying this back in the 90s, diesel electric makes sense
This was not what I was here looking for, but it sounded interesting and after giving it a few minutes, I stayed till the end.
This is something I thought already existed, because it’s such an obvious concept that has been around on the railways for at least the better part of a century by now.
It was great to see a team that is excited for their work and has the right attitude to environmental thinking.
I love the modularity and the refreshing absence of planned obsolescence.
Wishing them all the best.
I love the way you guys talk about modularity, simplicity, redundancy and longevity!
Sounds like these guys researched this truck thoroughly before introducing their truck to the market. Hybrid-Diesel is definitely a more feasible technology and would offer considerable fuel cost savings. Many buses are running a similar hybrid-diesel design and have been very reliable, so this technology is definitely proven. Thanks for this video showcasing this up-and-coming Canadian truck offering.
Like he said locomotives have been hybrid for 80 years why truckers can't be hybrid is bonkers
@@johnsnow1355not really. it comes down to money. This truck weight about 5 ton more than a standard daycab. That means less freight being hauled which means less revenue in most cases. It also shuts off a good portion of the freight market that expects a truck to legally haul 45,500 lbs legally. That right there is a huge impediment when the government is restricting weight limits or charging for permits to be overweight.
Busses and trains don't have that same issue. Busses will not reach their rated weight limits and trains have different ways of calculation (highwr weights per car or unit verses a total weight). This gives them a lot more room for extra weight. A daycab with these types of bells and whistles should weight in between 15 and 17 thousand pounds. Add a sleeper for over the road and you are looking at around 19-22k.
@@sumduma55 ev heavy haul are granted a extra weight bonus almost 4000lbs so that cancels out some of the extra weight. There prototype weighs less then the tesla semi tractor.
@@sumduma55 ev trucks in BC are allowed 65,000 gvw 1500kg more then a conventional powered tractor trailer.
@@johnsnow1355 65 or 85,000lbs? Canada always had a higher weight limit.
I'm not knocking it. It's just that the weight is a problem outside of niche markets. Will be nice when they can trim it down to similar weights.
As a locomotive engineer, Chase took the words out of my mouth 😂. "Guys..." Best collab on UA-cam!
What a lot of people fail to realize is 100k is about a quarter to a third of a single 6-axle locomotive... We need to see Topsy pull a locomotive. Pull some strings, my man😂
@@thatkyledude1093 🤔 very intriguing. I might be able to make this happen...
Truck: 100,000 lbs
Train: 100,000 tons
I am so glad to see men who know what common since means. You men built a great tool. I am a past trucker and really respect people who understand thinking. Good Job.
This is exactly what I wanted all auto manufacturers to do. Instead of full electric which might not be practical for places where gird powers isn't available.....use hybrid instead! Edison is a real one for this and I hope all other manufacturers or upcoming manufacturers follow suit. This is the real answer to lowering emissions besides planting more trees, and is already an existing tech from trains for over 70-80 years. Y'all are awesome
I love how he says "when you have to work on it"
They're putting so much more thought than almost any other manufacturer out there when it comes to serviceability
That's the thing, currently the "other manufactuers" don't WANT you to be able to "work on it"
perks of not including the "certified engineer" in the build of the truck lol
And I think this truck looks way more badass than any of the silly “futuristic” looking trucks being built by Tesla or others. They might as well have put wheel well cover on the Tesla so it looks like a Prius 🙄
@@crazygamingfab9338 They did have a certified engineer help build it, thanks goodness. It's about having truckers manage the project, not bean counters.
If they get this off the ground, there will be models that are sleeker and have more frills.
This is fantastic! Seeing all that iron moving with no noise is very impressive. Congratulations to all involved. 🏆
And scary.
Nick! i love all that you do thank you sir
uncle tonys garage sheeple
imagine having this blow by you on the highway making zero noise other than tire noise. This needs a speaker like everything else electric
@@chubbysumo2230 or lights
Diesel Electric has been the norm in the rail industry for a LONG time. Diesel Electric trucks make sense for very remote operations. Especially as the truck can act as a mobile power station.
The next step after pulling is seeing if you can run this beauty on bio diesel. Get that multi fuel going and you've got a truck that'll out last the apocalypse.
God, the more I watch this seeing you walk around the outside of the truck without touching the ground the more this reminds me of a diesel locative.
I would love to see one pulling a road train in Australia...
If you can get a genset that runs on biodiesel and is roughly the right size, this truck will run on biodiesel. As they said - the inverter doesn't care where the power comes from! They talk about being able to run on propane!
the only thing I don't like in diesel-electric train is the fact they don't use to recovery energy while down-hills and breaking.
MAYBE that's not a huge deal on trains which runs mostly in straight line and constant speed. But maybe that may be good in a truck. I bet that's why this Edison truck uses batteries while diesel-electric trains do not. Am I right?
Does this Edison truck recover energy during down-hills?
As a first nations person, that is so great to see Edison helping out a remote community! So awesome.
I am so happy to see Rich and Chace together, literally the best combo on UA-cam
yap
Need some peg and twin sticks
@@scrapbmxrider16 No clutch pedal, I can hear the whining from 1,330 km away.
Chase is awesome. I wish them all the best.
Just missin DetroitAndy
Wheel-Slip, on level ground, pulling 100K Lb!
What actually got me following Edison Motors, is Chace's belief in recycling the older trucks. It shows in the simplicity of Topsy.
Tell me about it. I am into old trucks with Cummins motors. This demo has blown my socks off. I'll take two!
@@finalmidnightI think they’d get even more people on board if they just swapped a Cummins in for the generator lol.
@@jesseleesamples It would feel less like I am cheating. Still here in Australia CAT sell the most heavy duty gen sets.
@@finalmidnight I have nothing against Cat, but definitely prefer Cummins lol
It's the natural evolution of diesel electric, I have thought of it myself in idle musing but asdumed cleverer people than me already tried and dismissed. But you had the guts to try, being able to see a proper trucker take our industry in a sensible direction as opposed to pure battery is refreshing.
Last week I had my first brush with non diesel trucking: compressed natural gas.
I know it's better for the environment, but my inner 8 year old misses the big diesel v8 blowing through the stack of the Scania R520 I was in before.
My only suggestion for this rig is cameras. You've made so many design concessions for driver visibility you've missed a chance at replicating the bumper mirror on euro cabovers.
Can't wait to order a retrofit for my 85 Chevy. You guys have checked all the right boxes.
Never heard so much common sense talked , while sat around the hood of a truck in my life…….bloody brilliant 👍👌🇮🇲
It’s crazy to see a truck take off like that without grabbing 6 gears in the first 15 miles per hour! I bet the torque feels absolutely unreal, and then the complete silence must make it a surreal feeling 👍
It is absolutely nuts. Wasn't the funnest drive home with my truck
@@DEBOSSGARAGEget that retrofit conversion down the road 😂
I hope they can retrofit any cab and chassis that's where the money is! Honestly there truck looks like a old Autocar too old and dated. But if they can update any truck from a Pete, freightliner, kw to ditch the transmission and driveshaft and fill the space between the frame with the hybrid battery pack instead of on a rack behind the cab they will have a winning design.
Sorry I was wrong the battery pack is hidden in the frame rails the rack on the back was just the electrical stuff.
@johnsnow1355 I belive they did that just to show off the components for their prototype
His enthusiasm & joy is infectious. God Bless these guys!
Absolutely amazing, congratulations!!!!!
These guys are super impressive - they really understand their target market. . I went from barely having heard of Edison Motors to now legitimately wanting one....every step of this demo i was nodding my head and saying "yea...that makes perfect sense". (Only thing I hate is that I didn't think of it first)
its what happens when a trucker designs a truck rather than an engineer. vs the Tesla where you have engineers designing a truck. this truck is overbuilt, simple, thought out. look at the cab design. he's got windows at foot level. it lets him look down and out for near objects low to the ground, like a curb. or a stump. the motors nested between the axles and protected. its not just mud. car parts road debris etc. it can run electric only mode so you can roll down a window and a spotter can be heard shouting at you.
the truck is brilliant. its field serviceable. like he says you break a spring hanger you can fix it in the field. you don't need a torch. looking at it there is no reason it can't also be used as a mobile emergency generator.
a typical hybrid car gets 40-50% better fuel economy than its not hybrid models. even if this thing only averages 20% over a convential truck. the most fuel effcient one gets 10 mpg. so if this thing does say 12 mpg here is a break down of the cost savings.
typical truck does what 3-5k in mileage a week? lets use the low end, 3k. thats 600 miles a day 5 days a week. 3k a week, 150k a year. low end estimate.
10mpg at $4.29 a gallon = 64,350 a year
12 mpg at :4.29 a gallon = $53,625
thats assuming only a 20% increase over a regular effcient truck and only 3k miles a week. more miles or better mpg = even more money saved. i think you are looking at worse case 11k a year saved on fuel.
It's eerie how quiet it is ... and it's moving 50 tons!!
Elon might not lose any sleep over this, but I hope he's paying attention.
Elon is too busy losing and paying for the money pit formerly known as Twitter.... 🙄
I doubt it. The whole EV thing is basically just another feather in the climate change hysteria pillow. There are better technologies and methods that would retard fuel consumption while extending work but it's not as flashy or as impressive to the average layman and so we don't get useful changes but political and crony-capitalist ones instead. From the start "renewables" have been a black hole for government funding and despite the oodles of money poured in none have turned a profit or even broke even as far as I've heard. Many aren't even "green" once you factor in production & waste which is hilariously ironic.
Frankly I think this is way he wanted. To inspire solutions to our long term problems.
@@workingcountry1776 OMG suck his dick harder eh? He's a creepy manlet who wants you to serve him and THINK HE'S COOL lmfao what kind of grown-ass man gives a fuck about this stuff? All the money in the world can't buy you out of cringe and YOU LOVE HIM FOR IT. Shame on you and your neglectful parents.
Tesla has them on their radar. It’s just that this company doesn’t pose any threat to Tesla. It’s going to be years before they hit the road. But great ideas and I like the retro fit idea for older trucks and he’s so open about being flexible with customers building what they want and not wanting to sell them just your opinion of what they need. And the simplicity is a big factor for me. Reliable and affordable is not considered today in most markets. I wish them great success
Hats off to these guys. Made me smile watching their joy and pride of seeing their achievements fulfilled. Good on them and look forward to seeing their future thrive.
Love everything you guys are doing for all the truckers that love their old school trucks. Also I'm willing to volunteer my pickups and my box truck for your further conversion setups.
As a former army mechanic, equipment designed to have good access for repair is a godsend. I can't count the number of times I swore on the designer who put some easily repaired piece in the most awkward place. Like the adjustable end of a parking brake cable on the transfer case instead of in the cab. Where you had to crawl and sit in the mud for 30 mins because there was only room to get a 1/12 of a turn on the nut each time.
I congratulate you for having some forward thinking to actual use of yhe equipment.
Yeah crap like that is how replacing a $50 oil valve cost me $1,000 in diagnostics and man-hours. I'm especially joyful to see that nothing runs through a central computer either. It's all modules and they all have a clear purpose too! Very clearly designed with the intention of being good at what it's billed as.
"crawl and sit in the mud for 30 minutes" - did you have to do this to adjust it?
Yes I recently had to sit under a truck for 4-5 hours in the most awkward position, and understand the frustration
Honestly I dont blame the designers, at least not totally. They know what will need to be replaced/maintenanced and they could certainly guess about what would make something easy to replace.
I blame the accountants and the marketing team who drive the designers to make it as cheap to assemble as possible and deliberately tell designers to make something hard to replace to drive dealership repair revenues. I believe that these two initiatives drive every single design decision for the large brands and the unfortunate result is trucks (and cars, even more so) that are hard and expensive to work on.
I really think there is a HUGE market for a hybrid. A 7L motor to get that kind of power delivery is just mind blowing and a total game changer. The applications are freaking endless! Combine the hybrid with a generator motor with Speed of Air piston technology and the fuel and emissions benefits are incredible. So stoked for Chace and team.
Exactly, been saying it for my light duty truck even- Electric motor behind the diesel, this truck runs beautifully until it comes to moving anything haha.
It only makes sense that it works so well, you look at the fact that freight trains are basically hybrid, electric diesel technology already
I’m waiting for them to go public and buy stock this is the best electric semi I’ve seen yet and it’s repairability is top notch
Brilliantly genius! The possibilities are ENDLESS, well done BRAVO!
I hope Edison Motors just grows and grows. Great job!!! Phenomenal.
I will say the amount of common sense used in this build is awesome. So well thought out. You guys are genius! Makes me proud to be Canadian again!
I love the concept of using reasonably priced, reliable components on the truck. This looks like a great idea. Keep it simple.
They have solid ideas. Build a rugged logging truck with less need for human comfort to quickly develop the platform. Use other manufacturers' trucks with retro fitting to skip the hard part of making a livable cabin for long haul. Probably in the end they will either be bought by an established manufacturer or will license the platform.
Love it guys! This is the way you show people that something is feasible. Its simple, does what it is supposed to to and its economical, efficient, and its very easy for people to see what is happening. I was a young man when I started at the steel mill and all the old timers thought motor drives were magic and were going to replace their jobs and they would never work as good etc, etc. But when you got them to talk about it when no one was around they agreed that in many ways they were a huge improvement. All the die hard truckers will come around after a while once they see how practical this will be.
Absolutely blown away very impressed . My hat is off to you guys.
Manufacturing in Canada has become fairly non-existent in the past 50 years. The government mandates are weak and difficult to achieve. The Edison truck is well thought out and practical for its use. I will definitely be following this company and I hope it does well in years to come.
The current cab configuration is very utilitarian, and obviously not suitable for some long haul truckers that need a sleeper. But based on Chase's background, it is clear that he built a working truck for loggers, snow plow operators, and other industries that need durability and visibility more than they need looks and creature comforts.
This is a hell of a machine and very impressive to see pulling 100k lbs. It is absolutely amazing how much torque is available to get moving with zero noise or shifting. It just seems effortless. I've been follwing them and i really look forward to seeing the generator running and it pulling a full load on the highway.
I really think there is a market for trucks built to this spec, but I think Chase is on to something with regard to retrofits and gliders. With the way our governments are going, that may be a reasonable (cost effecive, and efficient) option for keeping trucks on the road.
it would be really easy to put a sleeper on the back of that thing. YOu just need to move the headache rack back and cut the back of the cab out. It would also make it easier for getting into the sleeper with the center drive position. You will not have to climb over the seat to get into the sleeper.
Shouldn't be too bad to make a cab on the back and add some amenities to make a long haul truck too
Not to mention the fact that the trucks generator can also be plugged into the network or run a house electrical system when its not being driven that is truly amazing
Forget a Sleeper.
There's enough space for a Condo behind Topsy's current Day cab.
I LOVE this thing! I love the no nonsense attitude! Please keep that
Your sheer happiness about moving the trailer was so good to see!!! I'm so excited to see this thing revolutionise the trucking industry
I'm an ole trucky. I think that that truck has huge potential! It's very practical and well thought out. Amazing how good ideas come from actually doing the work and then improve and build something that works. Good critical thinking skills on the part of its inventor.
Well done!
look further in the topic its a trucker made truck.
the world needs more real world engineering by guys like this. put in what you need, make it strong and easy as possible to repair, use reliable off the shelf parts. This is terrific. Im not a EV fanboy, nor am I a hater. I think all tyes of fuel and propulsion have a place- let the consumer decide what works for them. Couldnt be a more fitting first load !!!. Im seeing a cabover Kenworth as their first conversion(glider) customer
Yeah the market should have all kinds of options for us. I'm all for pushing / advancing our tech and doing our best to reduce the impact we put on the environment but its gotta make sense and not be some goverment mandated bullshit because some politician thinks they have to lead a crusade.
This is why real people should run the country not politicians they're obsessed with pure electric to the detriment of all other ideas.
I like less government in everything more in consumer.
@@WilliamHollinger2019
Yep less goverment less taxes.
Amazing truck and achievement!!
Really entertaining to watch you guys too. Loved it
This video made my day. Awesome work guys
My brother and I have talked about this for years. It's been working on trains for years, why not trucks. Glad to see someone is finally doing it.
Why not passenger cars?
@@patstenzel There are passenger cars with this tech
@@tmdosu it's also not the first hybrid truck.
Too bad its a scam company doing it. They will never get anywhere
These Edison guys have the right idea going after the specialty/heavy haul market. This truck is very thoughtfully designed. The ag-like cab also looks to have great forward visibility. The use of off-the-shelf parts is a nice nod to repairability in remote locations.
Good work guys!!! I love the simplicity!!!
a truly brilliant video of a brilliant vehicle. 1st time I see electric on the road really making sense!
For those who haven't been following Edison (for what seems like forever), "Topsy" is the SECOND truck. The first truck was a proof of concept they called "Carl", it worked well enough to prove that the overall concept was good and an automotive-grade driveshaft can be snapped like a matchstick if you put a load on the back 🤣
However, it does show that conversions are VERY possible, I can see some owner-operators with really beautiful trucks going this route when the economics forces them to (which it eventually will, 30% - 50% fuel savings plus noise bylaws plus all that torque).
I just love the idea of regen braking on semi trucks and how it not only captures all that wasted energy but must save a ton of life on the friction parts.
I noticed how QUIET it was in the video. I couldn't tell if the generator was running or not. I'm assuming it was in pure electric operation during the video. Imagine how much happier people living along highways would be if trucks had smaller diesels that made a lot less noise or even no noise most of the time.
I would love to see a video of it on the road to get an idea of how well it works in actual use.
@@TianarTruegardTrue. There will be a LOT of unintended consequences as this continues. London (England) already has ZEV zones, most Canadian cities have "noise bylaws" that prevent neighborhood grocery stores (unintended consequence!) by prohibiting heavy trucks after 10:00 pm - if they make no noise are they still prohibited?
As a suggestion, you guys should put together a retrofit package for the T680. We have four of them that are deleted and nearing time for a new engine, yet the cab/frame are in great shape, years of service left. Your drivetrain would make it fly.
I mean later in the video he was talking about how retrofitting gliders was going to be their bread and butter. ANd TBH I see it.
I was thinking the same thing bro!! This will be game changer
i am in the process of buying a world war two gmc truck I've been wanting to set it up like my grandpa's logging truck .. but now id love to put a glider kit in it and make look like grandpa's truck cant wait this is awesome.. and I do heavy haul woodchips in southern oregon it would be a blast to have that truck in the fleet!!!!!
@@NEEDbacon The difficulty will be getting the government to play along. They want you to scrap $100,000 worth of truck, rather than repurpose it, even if the end result is better overall in terms of the goals they’re always yelling about.
Finally, somebody did it and built what locomotives have been using for decades! This company is going to utterly crush it!
I'm a long time trucker, father owned his own company , raised in the industry and I really , really like what I'm seeing with Edison Trucks. I agree with everything you all have said 100%. You've got a new customer with me already. I like that you've taken truck design back to where it first started. Meaning putting the utilitarian mindset back in the design . Keep it up ! Go Edison ! 🎉🎉 Btw , at first glance I thought your prototype was a restored Pacific. Great looker. 👍
I have always been anti electric vehicles but I got to say when you have real truckers or real hard working people building this it seems so much better then what’s being pushed on us. I’d 100 percent drive this without a issue. It’s a beautiful looking truck and the concept behind it is great and very simple! Awesome work!
Its not an electric truck but a hybrid which makes more sense.
i am an automotive enthusiast that wants to drive something cool. i dont care what kind of fuel it uses to move. as long as it looks cool and can be worked on and is a well built machine, then im happy. i like how the rivian trucks look, i like the new hummer. i dont really care for how basic the teslas look. they just seem a little basic
@@gregorybarth930it is only electric drive. Hybrid drive means you can drive it without electric.
Its a Diesel EV. The diesel cannot turn the wheels without electric motors.
Basically, a road locomotive! Badass!
Yes, but for the first drive, the engine wasn't running, which makes it a BEV for that time span. Basically a plug-in hybrid. @@gregorybarth930
I think it would be awesome to have a trailer that could hook up to the Edison truck and use Edrives on the trailer. It would be amazing for agricultural uses like tanking liquid manure into a soft field, not only would it help it from getting stuck but it would also help it float saving compaction.
They're planning to do that. For logging its very useful because you can use the electric motors on the trailer to create resistance for going down steep logging roads. Saves brakes and charges batteries. They can also work for road trains for where that is legal. Will be a game-changer for the heavy haul stuff as well. Currently heavy haul is done with old Canadian trucks like the Pacifics and they have to have two, three and four trucks to get loads up hills. Now they'll be able to have one tractor and one driver. I can foresee electric generator packs with capacitors much the same as a locomotive uses to replace those other tractors when the power isn't enough
I'm here.fpr being excited to monster land trains
This absolutely opens up the possibility for e-drive trailers for VARIOUS applications. I can think of snow plows being one.
@@NotSureJoeBauers plus significantly increased traction on snow and ice. instead of two sets of drive wheels you might have 5. plus have you driven an electic car? the traction control is amazing with one.
Congrats man, so much work, this was really great to see!
Congratulations from your neighbor from the south. I don’t understand why we stopped inviting at the personal level. I’m so glad to see your all’s invitation and hardwork. Don’t stop now.
Money is why
The common sense and solid wisdom in this video could literally change the world if the powers that be would humble themselves and listen these guys. Simply amazing.
They won’t humble themselves. They want power and not listen to the people.
The smooth low speed control is incredible. That will be huge for a lot of operators. I know lots of trucks are going automatic these days but especially for the vocational trucks where they aren't going forward for 8 hours a time, this is huge. Will make reversing so much safer if you can just creep without all the hurky jerky
Watching this video was far better than the others way more information. Thank you guys.❤️
This is the type of stuff I dream of building. Good job guys. Truly amazing job.
I am beyond happy someone's finally built a hybrid rig like this. Been asking why it hasn't been done for years now.
Edison motors makes me proud to be Canadian. Nothing makes me happier then a bunch of Canadian truckers, loggers, and mechanics working together to evolve the trucking industry! I can't wait to see these things in my city, and see them hauling loads all across the planet!
Awesome! I hope it takes off!
Excellent! So right , so simple to work on. Not a bunch of screens and over complicated over priced crap that will fail early and be hard to diagnose and expensive to replace, Just off the shelf stuff that can be found most everywhere. Being a hybrid is so right and offers so much extra effieciency especialy in a cold climate.
Love how easy Edison made it to work on especially how they got rid of the huck bolts I'm a semi mechanic in colorado and the huck bolts become a major pain on the tractors that live in the mountains here in winter turns repairs that should take 30 minutes into several hour jobs
Is there any benefit over regular bolts?
@@swamp-yankeebased solely on a quick google search the main benefit seems to be they’re lighter, which is great for the builder and the operator, less so for the repairer/maintainer.
@@swamp-yankeeonly faster down the production line and don't loosen up like regular bolts
@@100pyattthey should just use a castellated nut with a cotter pin
As an electrician I've been saying this for years. Nice to see someone pull it off. I expect to see great things from this company in the coming years.
2. to that electricians need work ..
You did a fantastic job, the world has been waiting for someone to just make an auto (truck) with easy to get parts that don't need specialized part (that are prices 10X). Keep it up. I can't wait to see how things work out for you guys. Good luck!!!!
Amazing work, guys.
Ive been following Edison from the beginning, they did it!!!
they absolutely did
Love Chase's attitude towards EVs and making things affordable and built to last. I wish Edison Motors all the success.
Good ol practical and functional engineering. Love it! Excellent work, gj!
Thanks for a wonderful diesel electric truck. More facts would be fantastic. Blessings from South Africa.
Freight engineer with a smarmy comment here; just got back from hauling 24000 tons of coal. ;)
This truck is absolutely fucking amazing, about damn time someone brought diesel electric to the road.
24000 tons! Now THAT is rolling coal!
The passion he has for building this machine is makes my heart happy. The time and effort paid off. And I couldn't be more happy for the guy
I love this. Amazing truck and something actually makes sense for a change.
This is incredible I wish the guys at Edison huge success. What you have come up with here will change the trucking industry across the globe. Best wishes to you all from a fellow canadian.
The Edison reminds me of an old logging truck. Man that thing is neat for a prototype. So weird seeing a big load being tugged around silently. Thanks for bringing us along for the peek. Cheers.
It has the look of a Pacific Truck like a P16, (particularly the front of the truck) they were out of Vancouver.
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That's because it's built to be a logging truck. Chace is a logger
Retired CDL truck driver/instructor Wa State. Extremely impressed with your electric truck and your approach to things. Some say "Common sense is a dying art" ... I'm glad to say you prove that is not the case! For years I've said to my wife "why doesn't someone come up with an electric kit to convert 1980's minivans to hybrid electric, especially those GM made vans with rear wheel drive", put an electric motor in the original drive line, and batteries under the floor. So many useable older vehicles would have a new lease on life instead of going to the scrap yard crusher!
This is awesome! Love it!
Absolutely one of the coolest things to come outta all of Canada in so many years. You guys should be proud what I would give to be part of this team. Coming at you from the central interior of lil ol 100 mile house.
Not much that is happening in Canada makes me proud to be a Canadian anymore... but this does. Good common sense solutions built in Canada by smart hard working Canadians. Great job guys, looking forward to seeing what the future holds for the new Edison truck!
I'd Rather vote for this truck then the current clown that's for sure.
@@NEEDbacon I couldn't agree more... It's infuriating to see how much damage one idiot can do to our great country.
@@NEEDbacon Bahahahaha! I had a good chuckle at that. I agree.
I love the visibility windows at the foot well. That sort of design choice would help a lot of truckers with spotting those little cars that like to hang in the blind spot instead of passing quickly and getting out of the way.
On a different note, This is the way I'd been saying hybrid electric long haul trucks should be designed. Trains have been this way for a long time.
Yeah, I'm not exactly thrilled with the idea of having to plan layover stops with that Tesla truck, just so I can charge the damn thing!
@@BlackEpyon This is exactly the point I've proposed regarding just how appropriate an EV design isn't but could be for anything longer than local delivery trucks. Edison has shown clearly how it can be done effectively with fairly simple current technology. With the "Tesla Model" technology everything I've heard of so far has a very limited range. There comes that "layover stop" to recharge. It's impractical for a business to be that limited by the equipment some government entity is forcing upon the working public.
On the other hand, for lack of a better idea, I think an infrastructure that includes scheduled stops at the service shop would be more practical. The truck's range limits could allow the dead battery pack to be replaced with a fully charged unit in about the time taken for a current fuel stop. It would require a relatively expensive investment in these battery shops along the proposed routes. Edison's hybrid design is far more economical for the initial equipment investment and also for operating costs. I really like his ideas about practical design that encourages serious longevity. I'm driving a 2000 F250 Power Stroke 7.3 Liter Ford with 375,000 miles on it. This is one of the last trucks I've heard of that actually have a realistic expectation of lasting 1,000,000 miles with reasonable care. Edison's proposed trucks could make that idea commonplace!! This guy's ideas are some of the best I've heard in a very long time for this topic. My concern is that some governmental entity could come along with some sort of conflicting opinion and shut them down. It's happened before. I don't know much about business in Canada but it way too common in US history!!
@@MrGaryGG48 "the equipment some government entity is forcing upon the working public. "
Infrastructure is infrastructure. Even if the market was swinging that way without the government's intervention, they'd still have to invest in the infrastructure. Climate change needs to be addressed either way, and until the power grid is capable of handling all those electric vehicles, electric-drive hybrid designs are a good transition point.
I'm a landscaper, and I drive a '98 Chevy 1-ton. Those 6.5L Detroit blocks, as economical as they are, are also known for cracking, and I'll have to replace it at some point anyways, so I'm hoping to get a conversion kit eventually. Doing that will also allow me a way to transition to using cordless tools where it wasn't practical before, as I'll be able to swap out batteries and charge them onsite.
@@BlackEpyon This hybrid truck concept is a very practical answer to a whole list of issues that need attention. Unfortunately, far to much energy & money has been and will continue to be spent on what has become more a "religion" than a technical problem.
I would certainly prefer to convert my old Ford when the time comes than spend who knows how much on the latest "whatever" that comes along.
@@MrGaryGG48 Just because climate science is an incredibly complex multi-diciplinary subject doesn't make it a religion. Religion operates on the absence of evidence, and works even better if you don't think about it. Climate science has over 140 years of measurement data, and millions of years worth of reconstructed data (chemical composition in rock layers, ice cores, etc), just to establish the historical trends, never mind the forecast models which also involve launching satellites to accurately map the carbon cycle, and comparative atmospheric and climate studies of the carbon-rich atmospheres of Mars and Venus! We're not dealing with a sample of one here. If your understanding of climate science comes from Al Gore, you may as well believe in God just because the liar behind the pulpit told you he's real. That's not how science is done.
Also, yes modern trucks are ludicrously expensive. And much bigger than they need to be.
No bullshit, no nonsense. Godspeed to you!
You guys rock. This is what the world needs.
This is pretty heart warming. Hard not to smile, seeing these two guys reap the rewards of their hard work.
only one of them did this work but he other is coming on board
I absolutely love the fact eveything other than the batteries and motors is off the shelves...
I'm not even a trucker and I love this truck! This is so done right, well-thought-out component selection, commonly available parts, accessibility for servicing, like it oughta be. So weird to see you take off there in the lot and it's quiet. Loving the conversion possibilities. Oh, and the generator fire-up on the E-catcaller was sweet. More power to you, guys!
Mighty fine job, impressive wish yall the best!!!! God Bless!!!
Absolutely love the attitude, the humour, the know-how, and the sheer gumption. Functional is beautiful, IMO, and I've always loved the idea of a diesel-electric or turbine-electric truck. Please don't let the bean-counters ruin how trucker-friendly and maintainable this design is!
Love what Chace is doing with the support of Rich. Great to see the enthusiasm and common sense approach.
Next step is for Chace to show up on Letterkenny as Wayne's long lost cousin. I think he could pull it off pretty seamlessly. "So I was building an electric semi the other day......"
Welldone Edison. Long overdue and just makes sense
what you guys are doing is such an amazing feat. I genuinely hope you get this design in production and make a difference. as a fellow working man we need the next generation of equipment to actually be useful and capable to the work.
Chace is a pretty passionate advocate. I absolutely appreciate his commitment. I sincerely wish I could invest in him, his team and his company. Merritt is within driving distance for me. I intend to make an appointment and see how I can promote for him. Been following his progress since the start. Gotta love his blue collar honesty and enthusiasm.
These two get along way too good 😂
Finally a simple functional truck! Absolutely love the way this truck is built!! Easy to work on.
Love it!
Proud to be Canadian......Thanks guys!!!!!!