EVERY Moon Knight Personality Explained!

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    Moon Knight is known in the Marvel universe for having multiple personalities, but that hasn't always been the case.
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  • @guillermopena8412
    @guillermopena8412 2 роки тому +228

    I like the angle the show is taking, where it seems Mark already had DID before he met Konshu but when he became the avatar the DID got worse, more pronounced, more lively, more uncontrollable, and lead to Mark's ability to speak to his alters. It supports the concept of DID not being a contagious illness while also explaining its more fantastical depiction as the effect magic has on the real condition.

  • @melaniey.5596
    @melaniey.5596 2 роки тому +774

    It’s a shame the comics are using a “communion with Khonshu caused the DID” approach, because I like it better the “Marc already had DID, but it was twisted into something alien and not quiet like DID” approach. Idk I find more interesting the idea that people with mental illness can also become heroes, but with the caveat that the trauma they might acquire while doing hero stuff or what lead them to that path might worsen their condition even more.

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 2 роки тому +64

      It seems like their doing both and picking and choosing when and which one applies to him. He's a chaotic character so I kinda prefer the Flippy reasons we get

    • @saltified
      @saltified 2 роки тому +32

      Currently the latter is the truth. They only went with that idea in Ellis run.

    • @partofyou1701
      @partofyou1701 2 роки тому +47

      This is actually what the comics are doing. Marc says that the horrifying alien conciousness that has touched his mind is a separate thing than his DID as he licks the sweat off of his crescent dart.

    • @matthewjongbloed6718
      @matthewjongbloed6718 2 роки тому +18

      The comics use both, it changes depending on the writer. Lemire uses the Marc always had DID

    • @saltified
      @saltified 2 роки тому +14

      @@matthewjongbloed6718 It doesn’t matter, because canonically the DID started in childhood. Moench may not have intended for him to have actually had DID, but in universe he does, unless a new writer brings something in that undeniably contradicts the canon.

  • @EnerKaizer
    @EnerKaizer 2 роки тому +103

    The easiest solution for the DID conundrum would be to just clarifiy that Mark already had DID when Konshu chose him as his new champion, but when Konshu tried to put the memories of the former Moonknights in him he didn't realise that Mark had DID which caused the multiple memories to get split up by all of Marks alters, thus giving them all certain abilities of the Moonknight and thus changing the nature of Marks DID in the process.

  • @HenryLouis21
    @HenryLouis21 2 роки тому +607

    Talking about how each of Marc's alters has their own variation of the Moon Knight costume, I would love for this to be explored in other stories, and since the Disney Plus show is leaning into that idea a lot more, I would love to see what kind of costume they give Jake Lockley, maybe one that resembles a cowboy.

    • @cammoore___
      @cammoore___ 2 роки тому +41

      Nah, it's gotta be Kill Mode, because it's likely that he is the one killing the people

    • @zinkie_koormens5412
      @zinkie_koormens5412 2 роки тому +12

      I mean it would be kind of cool, but I want the show to be comic accurate man, not another Netflix Iron Fist thing

    • @cammoore___
      @cammoore___ 2 роки тому +40

      @@zinkie_koormens5412 yeah, but we've already seen major deviations from the comics, like Steven not being Rich Man Dude, and Mister Knight being a Steven suit, while the ceremonial armour is Marc's suit, so I just think we need to see another cool suit that fits with the murderer vibe that this version of Jake seemingly gives off

    • @zinkie_koormens5412
      @zinkie_koormens5412 2 роки тому +4

      @@cammoore___ yeah you have a good point but I don't think him having a cowboy suit that he's running around with would be bad

    • @aerindinescarro47
      @aerindinescarro47 2 роки тому +12

      @@zinkie_koormens5412 they can do something new as long as it would still work well for the character imo

  • @CyberSoulgem
    @CyberSoulgem 2 роки тому +46

    I really like the 2016 run’s approach to Moon Knight’s psychology, where their DID formed from childhood trauma (much like real DID) and Konshu being a destructive force trying to force Marc to be Konshu rather than simply embracing his alters as all being the “real moon knight”, there was a wonderful metaphor I read about DID in regards to the idea of a “true self”; if you were to drop a ceramic pot, and then glue all then shards back together, I’d be really silly to ask “so which shard is the real pot?”, they’re all real, they’re just simply fragmented pieces of a whole. Anyways I’m a fan of Moon Knight having DID but Konshu being an outside force that’s entered the System

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 2 роки тому +443

    I'm so glad the show is making each alter extremely distinct, even though outwardly, he's still super duper handsome Oscar Isaac.
    I still want Jake's Moon Knight to have his own costume, like the black and white one, but now, I kinda want that "mind breaking" one as his design as a backup, because it's different enough with it's silhouette.

    • @karmasauce6288
      @karmasauce6288 2 роки тому +18

      Oscar Isaac was perfect casting.

    • @lucemferre
      @lucemferre 2 роки тому +10

      I want Jake's version of the costume to be the ghost puncher version from the comics.

    • @gloweyspecs
      @gloweyspecs 2 роки тому +4

      my dream outfit for Jake will always be the one that shows up in What If? (1977) Issue #34 at the bottom of page 22

  • @nightmare2750
    @nightmare2750 2 роки тому +271

    I believe that Konshu is real, due to the fact that other mythological figures are real in Marvel, most notably Thor and Zeus.

    • @bjam89
      @bjam89 2 роки тому +54

      Heck black panther has ties to the egyptian pantheon

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq 2 роки тому +46

      Khonshu appeared in the current Avengers run alongside Moon Knight, it's canon he's real now.

    • @joeclarke7982
      @joeclarke7982 2 роки тому +15

      @@Patrick-pc3vq ya but that whole arc was trash....really Aaron's whole avengers run has been wack, I'd be fine with memory holing that story

    • @khonsu9378
      @khonsu9378 2 роки тому +7

      @@joeclarke7982 man, It could have been soooo goood.

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq 2 роки тому +6

      @@joeclarke7982 It would be perfect if Marvel ignored that storyline and confrimed it not canon somehow, perhaps him waking up from dreaming it in his own current series haha.

  • @TheKirbyT
    @TheKirbyT 2 роки тому +29

    In college me and one of my friends wrote a script treatment for a Moon Knight movie that followed a recently immigrated Egyptian cab driver in New York who is saved from a mugging by Moon Knight and takes it upon himself to investigate who Moon Knight actually is. It was very Memento, Fight Club, Mr. Robot inspired. We even wanted Rami Malek to play Marc. Still proud of that project.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  2 роки тому +5

      Great casting choice!

    • @hydrahunter9083
      @hydrahunter9083 Рік тому

      Honestly, at first glance, the script looks a lot like ACME's perspective of Carmen Sandiego. Fun.

  • @rainspectre3153
    @rainspectre3153 2 роки тому +130

    It's kinda amazing to me how quickly and behind the scenes Moon Knight blew up in the last ten years. He's up there with Spider-Man and Daredevil now as the Marvel hero I see with the most devote fans.
    Also, it's kinda amazing to think how massively Marvel street heroes have been influenced by Bendis' work. Spider-man, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight...

    • @adamcampbell2787
      @adamcampbell2787 2 роки тому +14

      I'll generally agree with you. For the most part, Moon Knight has had some really talented writers for the past 15 years.
      But I don't count Bendis as being one of them.

    • @joeclarke7982
      @joeclarke7982 2 роки тому +12

      @@adamcampbell2787 I would put Bendis at the bottom with Bemis honestly....to me the best writers in recent years have been Ellis, Lemire, and even though the series is still new and ongoing McKay has done fantastic work so far

    • @adamcampbell2787
      @adamcampbell2787 2 роки тому +4

      @@joeclarke7982 totally agree. The best thing I can say for Bemis is that he had some neat ideas, but he just didn't really pull any of them off very well. Bendis just wrote how Bendis writes in every comic he's ever written and didn't bring anything interesting to Moon Knight.

    • @austinwalker2000
      @austinwalker2000 2 роки тому +1

      @@adamcampbell2787 he pulled the ultimate Spiderman series off really well I think (could be biased as I grew up on the ultimate Spiderman video game)

    • @joeclarke7982
      @joeclarke7982 2 роки тому +1

      @@austinwalker2000 no you're right the ultimate spiderman is 1 of the best comic runs ever imo

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 роки тому +94

    Its always so fun for me as a comic fan to see these not as well known characters and just see them freak out. It's nice to see them having the reaction that we also had when we found them in the pages of our funny books, its a bonding experience between the two different "kinds" of marvel fans. "Woah, is this how moon knight is?!" "yea, man, isn't it cool!"

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah, ever since Marvel became mainstream i like this sort of interactions with new fans.

  • @kifuz
    @kifuz 2 роки тому +69

    Even though the Disney+ series is vaguely like the comics when dealing with this part of him, I am enjoying how they are doing it a lot.

  • @corwin32
    @corwin32 2 роки тому +76

    I know I'm in the minority, but I like the way Marvel does Moon Knight. Every series we just start over and make changes. It fits with MK to me.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 2 роки тому +6

      Same thing they do with the Punisher. Considering how many times Castle "dies" at the end of a run. Only for the next one to never mention it again.

    • @jmclimacosa1970
      @jmclimacosa1970 2 роки тому +8

      me too, i feel like mcu does it better. because if they go the comic accurate route the comic might change things again and then mcu moon knight would change too because fans want it to be "comic accurate". if mcu moon knight doesn't change every time the comic changes, then it wouldn't be "comic accurate" in the future so what's even the point to be comic accurate, it would just get so much more confusing. i'd rather have a consistent good story, that's just my opinion.

    • @Gabe600
      @Gabe600 Рік тому

      @@jmclimacosa1970 except that there is nothing good in MCU Moon Knight, Moon Knight comics even with all its inconsistencies overall was a way better quality and that's is not my opinion is a FACT

    • @acupofwhitetea
      @acupofwhitetea Рік тому +1

      @@Gabe600 that's is just your opinion, but don't be a d*CK about it. If you don't like the MCU show then read one of the past runs that fit your specific taste. Especially the many inconsistent details they keep changing.

  • @mickeyveach3612
    @mickeyveach3612 2 роки тому +30

    Didn't Jason Aaron's Avengers run just make them fight Khonshu? I think it's more than confirmed that he's real now.

    • @aguspavez9043
      @aguspavez9043 2 роки тому +14

      Yeah, but everyone is better off just ignoring that book tbh

    • @gemgem396
      @gemgem396 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah but that story has so many plot holes and continuity issues, so it’s best to ignore

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 2 роки тому +8

      yeah, but that's also involves Khonsu taking over the world and Moon Knight gaining the powers of the Iron Fists, Mjolnir and Sorcerer Supreme at once... its very much a "Lets do some super comic book shit" and shouldn't be taken any further then that. Like, as far as im aware, this Avengers run atm is mostly the Avengers stockpiling a bunch of various "mantle" powers (the Starbrand, the previously mentioned powers, Black Panther and so on) to fight Mephisto and his multiverse counterparts so its all very.... idk, just comic book-ey. Its fun for the sake of it.

  • @jordachejordan90
    @jordachejordan90 2 роки тому +8

    Comic Drake: "I just wish Marvel would establish Mark's D.I.D. in a childhood trauma."
    Moon Knight Ep. 5 in the future: Oh really?

    • @BEE-oz7yd
      @BEE-oz7yd 5 місяців тому

      That was my favorite part of that show!

  • @HyliusVA
    @HyliusVA 2 роки тому +9

    the bit where he burns his finger in the coffee cup was far too funny for how subtle it was

    • @quicklyform5162
      @quicklyform5162 2 роки тому +1

      Fr tho I was wonder why he was shaking his hand lol

  • @ccervidae
    @ccervidae 2 роки тому +35

    Given Warsame's intentions, I feel like her assessment of "You dont have d.i.d. Khonshu did this to you lmao" should be taken with a grain of salt. I personally fall under the belief that he's always had it, and communion with Khonshu/becoming Moon Knight had... interesting effects on his condition. Because I feel like it makes more sense (as far as superheros and ancient gods go), and because I like the idea of someone with mental illness independent of their powers/superheroing going on to become a hero despite their condition.
    That being said, if Dr. Badr sticks around, and I hope he does because I like him as a character, it would be interesting to see how Khonshu's influence has had it's effect on other people given the eldritch horror nature of the relationship. And if they do, I hope it isn't just "Badr also has D.I.D." both because that could become VERY cheap and derivative, and because different people react to situations differently. The human psyche is complicated and messy, and it would be very interesting to explore how two people cope with the same thing happening to them, especially given how very different Marc and Badr's personalities and outlooks are.

  • @blametheghost
    @blametheghost 2 роки тому +13

    i gravitate towards the stories that handle certain takes on illnesses, like some hulk stories and moon knight sounds interesting to read

  • @majinsole8554
    @majinsole8554 2 роки тому +97

    It makes more sense that he had DID already and that Khonshu’s influence thereafter caused some abnormal effects.
    This would explain why the alters can interact with each other directly via the supernatural influence, as this does not happen in DID even if a person is aware of their alters.
    ~_~

    • @Tuskbumper
      @Tuskbumper 2 роки тому +13

      DiD is different for everyone though. Some people can interact with their alters while others can't just like how some may have 3-8 alters while others have dozens more. There's no one size fits all.

    • @Ale-km3ux
      @Ale-km3ux 2 роки тому +11

      @@Tuskbumper While true, I doubt having a conversation outside of the headspace like Marc does is possible, and I think that was OP’s point

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 2 роки тому +5

      That's clever, it basically gives them an excuse for whenever they get something wrong about DID.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo 2 роки тому +13

      My brother has DID, and he has said his alters are able to talk to him. (Long before he was even aware of Moon Knight, or very many media depictions)
      One time, he told me that one of his alters told him that I was being annoying one night while she, that alter is a girl, was playing video games with her friends on Discord. Lol

    • @glocktop916
      @glocktop916 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ale-km3ux i can tell you know nothing about DID

  • @aarononeil9832
    @aarononeil9832 2 роки тому +13

    I would definitely rather they ultimately commit to him having already developed DID when he was younger and the stuff with Khonshu just adversly affecting it in some way. Hell, it may well even be that Marc did have DID but it went pretty much unnoticed for a long time until Khonshu showed up causing some of his alters to rise to the surface (maybe because the Moon Knight persona is supposed to be sort of a mix between the avatar and Khonshu himself, but because there are actually multiple identities in there it messed up the balance and gave the other alters just as much control as Marc)
    For now I like the way the show is handling things even if the talking to each other through a mirror is a tad goofy and cliche (though again that part could be because of Khonshu's meddling) so I'll be intrigued to see how things go when Jake comes along as presently it seems like neither Steve nor Marc know who or what he is

  • @CalderTF2
    @CalderTF2 2 роки тому +3

    Fell in love with Moon Knight when I unlocked him in lego marvel superheroes and have been reading his comics since then.

  • @WhosBlrrd
    @WhosBlrrd 2 роки тому +8

    I heavily prefer marc actually having d.I.d, moon knight not being an alter, and it being unclear if khonshu is real or in their head

  • @desrochessimon3044
    @desrochessimon3044 2 роки тому +5

    I imagine Moon Knight having a different love interest for each personality, and then ask Spider-Man how to handle all his girlfriends.

  • @acupofwhitetea
    @acupofwhitetea 2 роки тому +7

    It would be a funny retcon if the reason Khonshu is drawn to a man with DID, is that Khonshu is a Cosmic Being who also have the human equivalent of DID. Even funnier if each aspect can also talk with each other either coordinating or just bickering, similar to how Marc can talk with his own alters. Writer's seem to keep changing Moon Knight so If they are going to keep retconning him every run, might as well have fun with different concepts.

    • @tatsudragneel4761
      @tatsudragneel4761 2 роки тому +2

      That would be easy to did since Khonshu is a deity, they could go with the other identities being different human interpretations of Khonshu. Kinda like how Heros of Olympus depicts the Greek and Roman aspects of the gods.

  • @NovastarDoughnut
    @NovastarDoughnut 2 роки тому +5

    See I like the fact that MK isn't consistent. Because he was in this lovely spot between people know him enough for new books and obscure enough so nobody cares, it makes each book their own little enjoyable capsule of differing and contradicting takes

  • @alc.awesome7012
    @alc.awesome7012 2 роки тому +3

    I really loved your explanations and your thoughts about moonknight. You not only give pretty accurate details on the personas but you don't fully dwell on assumptions. Instead you explain the comparisons and differences in each comic you talk about unlike some other videos I have seen! Well done!

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks! I actually read the comics I talk about. 😜

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 роки тому +3

    7:30 that's the inner child

  • @annaskellington1
    @annaskellington1 2 роки тому

    Super amazing video!! Really insightful, nice work!

  • @ItsTripleAGaming
    @ItsTripleAGaming 2 роки тому +2

    10:36 the coffee gag made me chuckle

    • @franknieto6740
      @franknieto6740 2 роки тому +1

      I thought it wasn't a coffee gag, and that he just played it off as smoothly as possible

  • @ZION-THELASTRONIN
    @ZION-THELASTRONIN 2 роки тому

    I've been looking forward to this video really enjoyed it.

  • @alexandersmith7061
    @alexandersmith7061 2 роки тому +14

    I like your idea drake! To add onto it, I like the idea that the Egyptian god (not gonna try to spell it) intentionally sought out mark BECAUSE of his D.I.D., because the god likes to torture mark a lot, and he knows nobody would actually believe him, save for maybe doctor strange, because Stephen and the god are bitter exes

  • @Catilleon
    @Catilleon 2 роки тому +2

    A great exploration, I'd heard all these mini-series out of order (and skipped the original books entirely) so seeing Moon Knight really come together through several writers was interesting.

  • @girl1213
    @girl1213 2 роки тому +4

    It's been stated that the writers of the show want a more realistic depiction of DID, so they're likely to take the Marc developed DID at some point in his life BEFORE the Moon God found him.

  • @kaiju1281
    @kaiju1281 Рік тому +3

    13:20
    you're misleading. Marc says directly that it was "too crowded in there", saying that it was because of his DID he couldn't recieve previous MK's knowledge.

  • @titusthehuman8922
    @titusthehuman8922 2 роки тому +3

    I hope when jake gets in the show he will get the creepy mask he got in 2014

  • @lughaidhmcloughlin3640
    @lughaidhmcloughlin3640 2 роки тому +34

    We need Moon Knight to actually canonically fight Dracula. And to fight with all sorts of random bullshit. That’s what we need I think.

  • @thomasfan8889
    @thomasfan8889 2 роки тому +5

    Personally, I like the constant shade and ambiguity thrown at Marc’s condition, at least in universe. In my mind, i see it as another layer to Marc’s mental health problems as he can’t tell reality from fantasy, but it also cleverly allows for the whole mythical aspect to keep feeling somewhat mythical. This also applies to the constant back and forth on if Kaunshu is working in Marc’s favor or not. The inability to tell helps drive a larger, overarching mystery narrative to the series.
    That said, it absolutely needs to be concluded at some point (I’d like your suggested idea with a tact on “Kaunshu has been looking to take care of you, just in ways you couldn’t understand at the time” sort of deal, to sell a more interesting “partnership” between the god and avatar pair), or confirmed out of universe somehow (like in an art of marvel book with notes from industry workers alongside each art piece).

  • @Calaveso
    @Calaveso 2 роки тому

    Another banger of a vid, good stuff!

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 2 роки тому +11

    Season 2 better have Dracula in it

  • @electromagnetic
    @electromagnetic 2 роки тому +6

    I find it interesting that we would characterize his condition as DID. But you bring up some very interesting points. It was a point of contention I’ve been thinking about since the show came out.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo 2 роки тому +2

      Part of that is because Moon Knight was one of the few handful of heros serving as representation of the disorder, and with with it want to see it done positively and accurately. And taking away DID from the characters meant deleting one of the few representations they had with any positive aspects to it. Everybody wants a hero like them, and Moon Knight was that for a lot of DID systems. (Moon Knight and Crazy Jane from Doom Patrol are literally the only mainstream comic book DID systems I have ever heard about, and taking one away isn't going to fix the issues with their representations)

    • @samdalseide5060
      @samdalseide5060 2 роки тому

      @@Hey-Its-Dingo Typhoid Mary is another comics character with DID. She's usually a Daredevil villain.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo 2 роки тому +2

      @@samdalseide5060 Okay, good to hear that there are more, but 2 things: 1) I don't think she can be qualified as "mainstream" representation, and 2) Her being a villain might be an issue. (Idk the character much, so she could be handled well, idk. But Daredevil is usually really good about respectful disability and disorder representation, especially in recent years, so maybe I'll read some stuff about her)

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo 2 роки тому +2

      @@samdalseide5060 Okay, the fact that it seems her appearance in the Elektra movie wrote out her DID entirely, and Season 2 of Iron Fist, which did include her DID, has a "serial killer alter" so that kinda answers my question of if she is handled well... (I haven't watched either so I can't say for sure, but reading summaries of her depictions in those says a lot. Those are her most prominent live-action appearances, though, I hope reading into her comics history will be better, since Iron Fist was a few years ago now)

    • @RamsTheNameCom
      @RamsTheNameCom 2 роки тому

      @@Hey-Its-Dingo There was already a very similar superhero that officially had DID since his first appearance in 1983, long before Moon Knight officially came out as having DID. (And it was more accurate to the disorder than the Moon Knight comics, up until the 2016 Jeff Lemire Moon Knight).
      That being "The Badger", who was a kid that suffered abuse from his father almost every single day of his life. Eventually ran away from home to join the army in Vietnam, where he would get captured and tortured from months. His mental health deteriorated further and a Badger Goddess comes to him in a vision, choosing him as her avatar of vengeance.
      The Badger is a superhero with DID, Schizophrenia, and he only has the power to communicate/control animals (with Martial arts training in the mix).
      Only real big difference between Moon Knight and The Badger, is The Badger's mental health is much worse from his trauma and he mostly only fights crimes involving animal abuse.
      Moon Knight was original conceived as a Bad guy seeking redemption as a superhero, using disguises/aliases to help him preform his tasks. Not mentioned in the video is the fact that Doug Moench in an interview said his Khonshu was never meant to be real, just a near death hallucination that radically changed Marc Spector's life style from evil to good.
      And he wanted Moon Knight to be subtly Schizophrenic, where he slowly showed signs of being crazy as the comic series went along. But it was never meant to be actual DID, just a Schizophrenic man taking every minor detail in his new superhero lifestyle way too seriously.

  • @anodiwamabonga9253
    @anodiwamabonga9253 2 роки тому +1

    Loved the video thanks the video

  • @crasterlongshanks4284
    @crasterlongshanks4284 Рік тому +1

    I like his depiction in the show the most, and I really hope we get a season 2.

  • @colinakersakers44
    @colinakersakers44 2 роки тому +1

    This was a great video to explain such an oddball character. I also agree it makes sense to have him developed his DID during childhood and that caused Konshus weird goobldy goo to shatter his mind.

  • @G3orge88
    @G3orge88 2 роки тому

    Great video Drake

  • @exmysterioDX
    @exmysterioDX 2 роки тому

    This is a good video keep up the good work

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 2 роки тому +25

    I really wish you'd do some basic research into the history of how what's currently called DID has been diagnosed over the years. You keep busting on the early issues for using the "wrong" terminology when, in fact, they were fairly accurate to DSM-III, which was brand new in 1980 and first defined a whole class of dissociative disorders, a class which was still very broad at the time. The term DID didn't even exist until 1994 when DSM-IV renamed what had been called multiple personality disorder (in DSM-III) and refined the definition somewhat, with further revisions later in DSM-V.
    Go back even a few years before Moon Knight and the diagnosis under DSM-II would have been "hysterical neurosis of a dissociative type" and the definition would have been even looser. Even today with (hopefully) better understanding of what's involved, the commonplace overlap in symptoms between DID and schizophrenia spectrum disorders complicates diagnosis of both, and you can certainly suffer from both at the same time. The whole subject is a complex one, especially for a comic written by laymen, and calling out the early creators for not using modern terminology is about as unreasonable as criticizing a Victorian era physician for prescribing mercury treatments for syphilis rather than anti-biotics. You can't work with what doesn't exist yet.

  • @HaussmannComics
    @HaussmannComics 2 роки тому +1

    His Moon Knight Solo series was actually about 5 years after his debut I Werewolf By Night

  • @mercuryo3042
    @mercuryo3042 Рік тому +1

    Khonshu is in fact real, the Age of Khonshu from Avengers run proves that everyone can see him if he desires plus the last form isn't Khonshu since he in this moment in time it's imprisioned in Asgard from his defeat in "Age of Khonshu"

  • @evanmiller7700
    @evanmiller7700 2 роки тому +1

    No references to the Bemis run (other than the cause of his DID). That's how you know he's a fan

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  2 роки тому +1

      I really REALLY did not like Bemis' run, especially after Lemire did such a great job before him.

  • @thelonelykloud7435
    @thelonelykloud7435 2 роки тому +5

    Has marvel ever done a DID consent with the hulk? Cause I feel like that’s obvious and could be pretty interesting

    • @MrPineapple045
      @MrPineapple045 2 роки тому +6

      I think they have. in immortal Hulk, they make the various different Hulks into different personalities. I don't wanna spoil too much because it is a really good series that you might want to check out yourself

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 2 роки тому +1

      they've done the whole "multiple hulks" thing in Immortal, but that always struck me as less D.I.D and more like, actual sentient beings in the one body, especially considering.... later events in the story

    • @tatsudragneel4761
      @tatsudragneel4761 2 роки тому +1

      Hulk has DID too, depending on the writer I guess. But it's suppose to be one of the reasons his Hulk transformations are so different then She-Hulks or other "Hulk" characters. Hulk is a different alter in Banner that happened to get powers, while She-Hulk is just super powered Jennifer.

  • @zerov2817
    @zerov2817 2 роки тому +1

    Did anyone else notice when he accidentally dipped his finger into his mug and didn’t acknowledge it😂

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 роки тому +2

    Moon Knight and Mr Knight look so cool Man

  • @mecahhannah
    @mecahhannah 2 роки тому +1

    Relatively new to moonknight But he is quickly becoming One of my favorite Characters in comics

  • @saltified
    @saltified 2 роки тому +9

    Also Moon Knight was a fragment in the Moench run. DID is very random and doesn’t always have a identifiable pattern. There is a type of alter called a fictive, an alter based on fictional characters in the world, so him developing his avatar persona as a non complex fragment (an alter that only co-fronts, which is what we see in Moench and Lemire and more).

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 2 роки тому

    nice to finally know more

  • @thenerdgirl1
    @thenerdgirl1 6 місяців тому

    When Hunter's Moon is talking to Moon Knight and discussing the chorus, Spector tells him that maybe there was already too much in his head to add a chorus. Implying he had DID before then. The show implies this too. That he was chosen because he was broken.

  • @LazarusTheGeek
    @LazarusTheGeek 2 роки тому +1

    Your content is fantastic and this one is no exception. I really appreciate how carefully you tackle mental health and how you take time to focus the audience on what Marvel screwed up in the character's inception and how subsequent writers made efforts to cement his mental health as a core component of the character. Awesome, man. Just awesome.
    Ultimately, I would really like Marc to actually have a mental health disorder as that's something that definitely exists in the "world outside our windows." I do, however, want it to be handled with care and for the writers to actually take time to fully understand what they're writing about in a way that doesn't further other those of us who suffer from some mental health concerns. I think it can be done and I hope that we get to see a respectful and honest exploration of super heroes living with mental health issues someday.

  • @runes.nielsen2084
    @runes.nielsen2084 2 роки тому +3

    Another great video :-) I think that the moon's phases should control who he is Like Marc being in charge on the first days of the month, then this progressing to Steven and so on to finally being the Moon Knight around every full moon. He could leave himself notes, like "follow this dude, he's bad," and his friends and lovers could support him in his crime-fighting. This would lead him to make mistakes, to question if he wants to do what the alts thinks needs doing, and only be able to fight serious opponents when he's Moon Knight. It would lead to a lot of difficulties, fun, and some cool comics :-)

    • @muhammadHassan-kj1jy
      @muhammadHassan-kj1jy 2 роки тому +1

      But that would mean he can only fight a few days every month

    • @runes.nielsen2084
      @runes.nielsen2084 2 роки тому

      @@muhammadHassan-kj1jy fewer days certainly, but depending on the number of alts I was thinking that the 28 days in the lunar cycle would split evenly, so if there are three alts Moon Knight would be the main alt for 1/4 of each cycle or one week.

  • @squeethemog213
    @squeethemog213 2 роки тому

    The first place I saw Moon Knight was in Spiderman Web of Shadows. He seemed cool but under utilized. Thanks to you Drake he has slowly become one of my favorite characters. Have a damn good day man and thanks for the educational entertainment :D

  • @ComicDrake
    @ComicDrake  2 роки тому +4

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  • @superherobeatdown
    @superherobeatdown 2 роки тому

    Great video drake hope u enjoyed the the show in the end up it did have it’s problems tho and what’s the next video bro

  • @Emerald3ME
    @Emerald3ME 2 роки тому

    great video

  • @victorg3740
    @victorg3740 2 роки тому +4

    I think the 2021 comic should re make the origin of the did, and Just let it there and continue making stories, bu well, next month we will have some Konshu back into mark, so lets see

  • @unlockman777
    @unlockman777 2 роки тому

    I hope there is going to be part 2 for this video.

  • @cdromXXXX
    @cdromXXXX 2 роки тому +6

    Long time no comment, still following. A friend of mine introduced me to moon knight right before the pandemic hit and I read everything after the 2006 run that was available at the time then read the one that was midrun at the time if I recall correctly. Great stuff. Loved it.
    Whats your take on what happened to comixology? I haven't been reading much recently because of it.

    • @muhammadHassan-kj1jy
      @muhammadHassan-kj1jy 2 роки тому

      What happened with Comixology?

    • @cdromXXXX
      @cdromXXXX 2 роки тому

      @@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Check Nerdsync's video. I'm pretty upset about it. It was the primary way I read comics.

  • @jalapenoofjustice4682
    @jalapenoofjustice4682 2 роки тому +3

    I think it's worth noting that before the 2021 series, Moon Knight was an Avengers villain for a while with actual moon powers, so Khonshu was definitely real in that

    • @matthewjongbloed6718
      @matthewjongbloed6718 2 роки тому +1

      He was a villain in one arc and that story was doo doo. That story removes the entire mystery whether konshu is real

    • @jalapenoofjustice4682
      @jalapenoofjustice4682 2 роки тому

      @@matthewjongbloed6718 I don't disagree with any of that, actually

  • @ToxiKrisis
    @ToxiKrisis 2 роки тому

    this is way off topic, but those are some great sound effects used! o:

  • @TheMagnumDon
    @TheMagnumDon Рік тому

    I like the idea that marc always had DID but once he came in contact with Khonshu, instead of Marc himself enhereting all the information of all the past avatars, instead each personality gained equal amounts of information from all avatars.

  • @DulceDul217
    @DulceDul217 2 роки тому +1

    10/10 from a 0/10 human being, loved it haha

  • @alistarline
    @alistarline 2 роки тому

    I’m liking the nostalgia sounds seeing how those were missing too lol 😅

  • @PapiDooke
    @PapiDooke 2 роки тому +1

    I absolutely hate when mental is a product from problems, cause If you take away their powers then you take away that health, I find it cool if the character has mental health problems before acquiring powers, or maybe the problems are a product of the powers without being 100% correlated to the powers

  • @orangecrisis8568
    @orangecrisis8568 2 роки тому

    I love that he had DID as a kid and I want them to keep that explaination

  • @Captain8ball
    @Captain8ball 2 роки тому +2

    Seems like Disney+ show is taking a little bit of inspiration from each run and doing their own thing. Because it seems like every run is it has contradicted itself and refuses to be consistent about it. And there’s also a god confusion everyone’s gonna get it. If the Egyptian gods are real then how do they interact with Norse gods or Greek gods like Thor and Hercules.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 роки тому +1

    interesting have you done a video on the shadow?

  • @ThePuff18
    @ThePuff18 10 місяців тому

    8:03
    Some characters have Kung Fu grip, Moon Knight has DiD.

  • @iainmacadam2119
    @iainmacadam2119 2 роки тому +1

    I have a different take on "the one who lives on hearts." (Some of it might be slight spoilers for the Ellis et al run.) The psychiatrist says it's a secret aspect Marc taps into in his most violent moments, but she's not basing that on studying Marc in some way that could identify those moments, she just read about Khonshu and is speculating about how it applies. I think the big message of the third volume of the run that started with Ellis is that this most bloodthirsty aspect of Khonshu is expressed through *other* avatars that Marc didn't know existed. In that volume he encounters two different murderous villains who both claim to be servants of Khonshu, and at least one of them is confirmed to actually be by the context of the story. That's the secret revealed in the story about this "secret aspect": that Marc's not the only conduit, and not all aspects are expressed through him.
    The Khonshu of the Huston run could be seen as the heart eater aspect perhaps, but that was before establishing that idea, and it was an entirely different portrayal of him that was nothing but that one insanely violent aspect. Whatever that was, I don't think it's clear how it applies to the later portrayal of him.
    Also, as far as the Ellis/Wood run establishing Marc has a brain injury instead of DID, that information was simply stated by his psychiatrist... who, for spoilery reasons, is obviously not a trustworthy source and not someone who has Marc's best interests in mind. Since her goal was to manipulate both Marc and Khonshu, I think anything she told Marc that can't be corroborated from another source can be dismissed entirely.
    Later, in the Lemire run, Khonshu tells Marc that he's always been weak of mind, and that's why he's a desirable choice for a god to work through, inhabit, and possibly take over entirely. So I guess we all have to decide who's more trustworthy: the villain psychiatrist trying to mess with Marc's mind and Khonshu's perceptions, or a vision of Khonshu that might also be saying whatever to manipulate him, or might just be a figment of Marc's imagination. Either way, I don't think these examples establish absolute canon on Marc's mental state one way or another.

  • @davidpatrick4871
    @davidpatrick4871 2 роки тому +1

    Ad question. What milk do you think works best with Magic Spoon?

  • @stijnvankempen1533
    @stijnvankempen1533 2 роки тому

    I like the lemire origin and run the most

  • @tylerhenderson6362
    @tylerhenderson6362 2 роки тому +1

    You should make a episode about everyone who use a web shooter

  • @JustAnotherJames3
    @JustAnotherJames3 2 місяці тому +2

    For as much as I love the mystery behind whether or not Khonshu is real or another alter of some kind...
    I really dislike the Charlie Huston run. I know that people love it, but, just... as someone presently undergoing the lengthy psychological evaluation process for potential DID... it feels stigmatizing?
    Like. I mean. It's mainly just the face-ripping-off and skin-wearing scene in issue 2.
    Like, I can get behind an antihero and what that entails. Whatever.
    But the sheer brutality just...
    I don't want to tell loved ones or friends that I'm being tested for a condition only for them to start looking at me like I'm Buffalo Bill... Like imagine you felt some weird lumps, and decide to get tested for cancer. As you wait for results, you tell your parents. And they look at you with fear. Not of the cancer, but a fear of you. Because, last night, they saw a horror movie where cancer caused someone to mutate into a monster.
    Imagine knowing that such a reaction not only exists, but is widespread. And now stomach it. Maybe you try to hold off - "I'll tell them once my results are back," leaving you waiting. You fear a positive, less for what it means for you, but instead for what it means to those around you...
    It... It sucks, man.

  • @DanielleA2023
    @DanielleA2023 2 роки тому

    Just FYI the magic spoon product sounds/looks absolutely perfect (sugar free, low carb, tasty cereal?! 💖👍🏼👌🏼

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому

    I think his multiple personalities are like each Phase of the moon

  • @tmanfocus
    @tmanfocus Рік тому

    I would like it if they made it so that marc had DID when khonshu choose him as his avater.And marc DID changed to suit his new position. He gained a new identify for each phase of the moon and each identity had a different costume and weapons and skill set when they become moon knight

  • @MiniMe_Channel
    @MiniMe_Channel 2 роки тому

    I was just re watching the iron spider suit video and I really liked that style of video. Was wondering if you ever thought about making more like those. Like one for the symbiote suit or the future foundation. Sorry if this annoys you cause I know some UA-camrs get annoyed with comments asking for certain videos. More or less just wondering if you ever thought about it

  • @AcePianoNoises
    @AcePianoNoises 2 роки тому +1

    ok but do Marc's alters know about Dracula's debt to Moon Knight?

  • @armoredvistitor2197
    @armoredvistitor2197 Рік тому

    the multiple identities idea reeks of the shadow. the difference being presentation and implications. shadow didn't have DiD but you never knew his real name only his alias

  • @JPVersus_
    @JPVersus_ 2 роки тому

    I'm thinking Jake Lockley is gonna be Arthur Harrow's real name and his fist of vengeance persona will be the third alter for Marc, revealing that his alters are splinters of past khonshu avatars

  • @jamesbarr8218
    @jamesbarr8218 2 роки тому +1

    Noticed you skipped right over Moonie kicking the crap out of the Avengers. Good call

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 2 роки тому +1

    It would have been fitting if Moonknight personalities were linked with lunar phases.

  • @kinghatguitars3907
    @kinghatguitars3907 2 роки тому +1

    Judging from this, Warren Ellis is still on the outs?

  • @MykiiMescal
    @MykiiMescal 2 роки тому

    10:17 hey that’s max bemis

  • @manchild7923
    @manchild7923 2 роки тому

    Could you do a vid on all of DCs 5th Dimensional Imps

  • @blickyru
    @blickyru 2 роки тому

    Do a video over DC universe locations. Gotham, Bludhaven, Metropolis, Central City, etc

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 2 роки тому

    Trinston was here

  • @TravellerWence
    @TravellerWence 2 роки тому

    Is just me or is the Mister knight version just Elijah Snow from planetary in a mask?

  • @Abominatrix650
    @Abominatrix650 Рік тому

    "I've had a God in my brain. I wouldn't recommend it." - Erik Selvig

  • @kalebstigall2989
    @kalebstigall2989 2 роки тому

    Could you talk about all the other moon knights or the ancient avengers

  • @pezster8324
    @pezster8324 2 роки тому

    I'd like you to take a hero and cover their Rogues Gallery. Some popular and others lesser known. Example: Hulk won't grow a beard cause he looks like the Maestro.

  • @okhmgm88
    @okhmgm88 2 роки тому

    I like how you mentioned the scum bag of human beings work

  • @Rainbowfox_
    @Rainbowfox_ 2 роки тому +3

    I loved the show so much! It was such a great show to watch. I like how he has d.I.d cause it’s such an interesting characteristic, And adds story and character. It’s fun watching his different personalities interact! I like the contrast between the mild mannered Steven compared to the abused army vet marc.

  • @buster5661
    @buster5661 2 роки тому

    Is there even coffee in your coffee mug