Today I sowed the labels into my four-year-old great-grandson's school uniform for his first day on Monday. I sowed my own into my school uniform aged eleven, many years ago. I had tears in my eyes at the thought of his future.
It's heartbreaking for those with young children in the family. Every sympathy. ❤ I've been blessed by having no grandchildren, but I feel for innocent children everywhere.
I can never understand why people basically say "oh well, nothing we can do, may as well keep going" Of course brakes can be applied and once other countries see the modern countries embracing slowing down and able to make a go of it they are more likely to follow. There's 40.12kw of energy in a gallon of diesel, 10.6 per litre, maybe don't go for a driving holiday, maybe don't have Nascar, maybe don't get food delivered daily, consume 40% less overall, these are considered brakes as far as emissions are concerned and as a society they wouldn't be classed as nothing.
The oil industry has financial interest in people giving up and continuing business as usual. However each fragment of a degree heating we can avoid, is a good thing. There are already consequences, and they will increase, but let us not make it worse.
@@PleaseDontEatAnimals thats one of the things i have done. But also i plan to get involved in being an activist against corporate climate change causes
some say this is alarmism. i say why do u want to loose cities like Tokyo, Japan, Mexico Cisty, Mexico. Mumbai, India, Sáo Paulo, Brazil., New York City, USA, Shanghai, China , Lagos, Nigeria, Los Angeles, USA.... just to name a few of the big ones. plus where are they going to go? and how will we feed them if our crop land is ruined? its interesting hand waving these anti intellectuals posture with. anyways great video thank you all for your contiibutions.
Imagine the global grief and depression once this reality hits for the masses. Therapists will be as available as toilet paper, during the 2020 T.P. Apocalypse! Can you buy stocks in the phycology/therapy field?
The first I heard about this problem was a PBS Nova documentary in 1990. I didn't expect to see it happening in my lifetime, though. "Faster than expected" indeed...
What’s interesting is that without the progress made in compute capabilities over the last couple decades, we might not have had the ability to extract and analyze the enormous data that has to be processed in order to determine the actual extent of the problem. We are lucky that compute technology has lined up in time with climate disruption such that it’s possible for us to see what’s coming. Unlucky though that we don’t have alternative energy usage lined up in proper time to prevent disaster.
'Unlucky' that we don't have alternatives? Or a willful bloody blindness and monstrous procrastination by governments, combined with fossil fuel 'lobbying' which has bribed them to close their eyes to it....?
Bzzzt : wrong. Without those data models and obsessively fetishizing them to the point where one model is compared to another and these jokers call it science. Nothing is real-world and in fact the farther away it gets abstracted the more attention this crowd gives it. Gamers gonna game the game. The real kicker is poverty: across centuries and around the world Wealth of a society is directly, EXACTLY, tied to Energy Consumption. Up and down in lockstep. While you wait around in a 15-min city for sun or wind to do your laundry, our green ‘stewards’ of the new Gaia Royale will be surveying the wilding lands on horseback while on foxhunts surrounded by Boston Dynamics cyberdogs. Think Bill Gates will give up his jet, or the tech bros their orbital selfies? Believe that King “Terra Carta” Charles will give up his collection of racing motorcycles, or garages full of sports cars? There is no plan. No logistics to grapple with any of this. This is about power: the blue-bloods want their colonies back and think they’ve worked out Sustainable Slavery. WEF/ESG protocols demand we are poor, hungry and controllable. There is no plan. No logistics to grapple with this and reduces to marketing blather. We do all this Energy Blind, unaware of the vast amount of one-time fossil energy used to achieve this as we reach Peak extraction. This means it only gets more expensive with each barrel pulled, and uses more of that pulled energy to get at the next. Riddle-me-this: How is a solar panel made, when solar power is not industrial strength? Nor can turbines generate power to make more turbines: we will require diesel for a long-long time. Worse, all the special metals for this wondrous electrification have yet to be mined: that is, we must dig up as much {copper} as all of mankind has ever mined, All Over Again - with the easy ore grand-dad found is now 1/3 the concentrations meaning 5-7x the trailings, dross, sludge to get at these resources. So green. This must be faced whatever politics you hold dear or want to see realized. When people finally understand Green means some low-ambition, survival-mode neo-Waltons post-Depression lifestyle they will stop listening to this. I’m sympathetic, but do not see clear ideas about hard facts.
Such a catchy title Regina!! Many thanks to you and Paul Beckwith and Dr Peter Carter..no wonder that Idalia hurricane got so strong with ocean temps around the 90s or so to give it added juice to get stronger..I also looked at the radar forecast for the next couple of weeks and there's many tropical depressions that could easily form with these warm waters and lack of wind shear..People on the East Coast and Florida had better start praying because it looks like a fierce rest of hurricane season..Thanks for all you do everyone we appreciate each of you!!
I can hear that urgency in your voice there Paul. Your's being the more scientific mind amongst the three of you up there (as far as I know), that's what gives me the chill running down my spine.
IPCC is a consensus tilted to the conservative by design. Their forecasted harm is necessarily at the optimistic end of the spectrum. When the IPCC said 30 CM of sea level rise, we should have expected 100 cm, which they changed to in the last reports. So, my Books, Pluvinergy and Pluvicopia, proposed that we must prepare to resolve 4 m of SLR this century. Both books show how to deal with the problems caused by the energy regime based on carbon rebalancing outside the lithosphere. And both books are stumped by the issue of AMOK slowing. I am just now realizing how bad the problem is already. The water cycle that Pluvicopia uses for our energy needs is the most potent process I know we can access. And it does remove heat from the oceans and the atmosphere at significant rates. I had not understood that the problem was so dire. The inertia in the system is so vast that it may give us some extra time.
The inertia of the earth system was the grace we thought was endless... Now the system is in motion and there is not anything one can do to hold the changes back less adding to the acceleration.
@@zerochance8581"trust the plan" our ice age is first to happen after 240 mil years of Hothouse Climate state. Earth has operated itself anywhere from +4 in later Miocene to +13 in PETM and even higher still I believe in Cretaceous Thermal Maximum
@@zerochance8581for example taking Ozone Depleting Chemicals releases beyond Montreal Protocol expectations, or SAI, out of equation... ozone heals faster in a +2.5 world than a +1 If I have it right it's winter spring cusp month where hyper frozen Polar air first sees sun is when chloride cascades happen and shred the O3. Feedback cycle to my mind that Warming means longer Deciduous leaf retention, shorter more fitful hibernation w prowling times and for humans more time outside (excepting peaks sealed in our aircon oases) that Gaia here is better able to protect us from the extra sun hours.
I would agree with the previous commentor. I’m glad someone has a spine to talk about this stuff, but also has the understanding and the communication skills to talk about it. My communication skills start with a poor explanation in a quiet tone, and then goes to yelling at someone and calling them names when they don’t agree or understand. I think it’s genetic. Anyway, greatly appreciate you using your super powers to explain this stuff to people like me. Thank you very much,
AMOC is a huge mechanical system with enormous amounts of energy stored as both heat and momentum. Such systems can stay latched in a definite stable state for long periods. When they are disturbed severely, they (1) go into a chaotic transition state for a period, and (2) then often reestablish in a different stable state. For example, during the Ice Ages the AMOC was clearly in a different state and there were monsoon rains in the Saraha. The word "Collapse" is not a good description of this process as it sounds like something is going to stop in its tracks. Not possible, just think of all the energy stored in it.
Semantics. The net result is what is important. Any way your slice it, this shift, collapse (or how ever you want to frame it) is catastrophic for many systems in its abruptness. If it can be connected to climate change then it must be given the attention needed.
Thank you for your warning, your maps, & for the explanation of the AMOC. It would be nice to see more videos put together by you folks. Peter's video camera needs to work better. Miss your smile Peter. What do you think about the new pattern of the Antarctica sea ice? It appears to be more rounded. Concerning the AMOC, you might explain what we can do about this.
By rounded you mean melt from east and west sheets is balanced? Or less melt total? As far as AMOC we have rudimentary control of precipitation events. No control of the seas. HAARP can heat ionosphere. No idea if tested effect in troposphere. Could try with not just untested but untheorized attempt to heat atmosphere over EU. They would ofc immediately (insofar as event is distinct moment) pull out of all climate change agreements. They'd object to aggressive cooling projects and every power plant capable of running would be unmothballed
Dear Peter, I was also mistaken about the cold blob. Acc. to Stefan Rahmstorf, the reason is the decreased heat transport rather than melt water. It is obvious after all: The cold blob is a good distance away from Greenland!
Or the opposite of obvious. If less heat is being transferred from the southwest then why would there be a distinct hole instead of a smooth reduction that continued on to the northeast? What's keeping things to the northeast of said hole so hot if the cause is less heat transport from the southwest?
A major factor causing the AMOC to slow is indeed the large volume of freshwater runoff from Greenland, where it meets the AMOC at the cold blob. The reduced salinity is what now causes part of the AMOC to overturn at the cold blob instead of continuing as far as Svalbard, where it used to overturn. I'm simplifying a lot (eg there are multiple branches of the AMOC in the North Atlantic and southern Arctic) but it's the interaction of cold freshwater with the current which is causing the slowing. Reduced heat transport is of course happening but there has to be a reason. The change in salinity is that reason. The cold blob formed there because that's where it meets the current. It's still freshwater runoff from Greenland. That's where the runoff pools, and that's why the cold blob shows there.
It's a well orchestrated illusion. Media and governments have all been captured by the energy companies over a century ago in reality. It's hard to change it now, very few have so very much. As things get worse they squeeze harder to maintain what they feel is owed to them. What to do for it but educate yourself and be the best person you can be as you're one of the last people there will ever be 😊 just a generation or two and poof. Like this whole thing never happened.
I have cared about global warming for a while but it wasn't untill this summer that i turn my natural gas account off and the cold shower actually feel good.
Cold showers sounds just awful. I get wet, turn off the water, soap up, then rinse with room temperature water. Saves some water. Cold showers sound awful. When the heat finally gets here, no showers will be waiting.
Climate change discourse has been political for years and the official versions seem to be edited to give people hope and motivation for change to avoid even worse scenarios. The problem is that nobody is getting ready for the absolute crisis.
Not all scientists have been dismissive of the Ditlevsen paper. Mr. Rahmstorf has publish a commentary on the dismissive arguments in his climate blog.
The human species is a parasite and we deserve everything that’s coming. Hopefully, the next stage of humans will learn to treat it better and live harmoniously with it.
Food shocks, as long as directly associated with our climate crisis. With our global overshoot. How likely will that be for most people? All we'll hear will be complaints about the price of food, and oh, please help those starving overseas.
Eat, drink, and be merry. That's what the overwhelming majority of naked apes will do, until they can't. We primates just aren't up to the task of a worldwide predicament, in which all countries must cooperate, on a massive scale, for there to be any chance of effective mitigation. I'm afraid only adaptation remains, for survivors, as something we will be forced into, as things get much worse. We're just being ourselves. Any animal would do the same, if given the opportunity.
@@juliebarks3195 Oh god, Julie. That's very funny. Yes, what we need are "wise apes" instead of the terribly misnamed "wise man" referred to as "Homo sapiens," (who are in perpetual denial of their true identity), to think they are so special, as to not being a part of the animal kingdom. Thank you for the compliment.
You lack a basic understanding of earth, science and physics. You may want to watch a few more interviews with Paul Beckwith. He’s a very good teacher in my opinion. I think you would pick up a lot.
Whoa, man, amazing insight. You should get this published in a journal. This incredible piece of scientific reasoning you have here is wasted in a UA-cam comments section.
The expert regarding AMOC weakening is German scientist Stefan Rahmstorf. He studied exactly this topic for many years and there are even UA-cam videos with some of his speeches available.
And because of it, I foind out that at the regiob between México and Bermudz de devvelopment of concetion those last qeek, follow up the AMOC tracking ....its very interesting
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IPCC MODELS ARE FLAWED so to take these things seriously without considering géo engineering and weather modification by states is to say the least shortsighted and biased. But as was said. All scenarios lead to slowdown. So why bother about one of the REAL cause. Let s stick with IPCC
Not to underplay what Beckwith et al. are describing; however, I understand that the earth's circulation + ocean-terrestrial boundaries (which sets up macroscale ocean and atmospheric circulation, in any case) plays a large part in maintaining AMOC (other factors such as temp, oxygen and salinity notwithstanding)..
WAIS often collapses around 400ppm/m3, CO2, with a 5 metre sea level rise, West Antarctica only contributes 3 metres of this, but if AMOC weakening contributes 2 metres, that explains everything. Also a sea level rise of 1 or 2 feet, could float WAIS off it's groundings, causing the collapse in the first place. The sea level rise stalls the Gulf Stream, causing a Little Ice Age. Is it really too late?
The finishing of AMOC will lead tô The finish of ocean curculation as we know. U believe The The Film with Dennis Quaid , The Day after Tomorrow is rigth, The North Atlantic will become frozen, and the Gouth Atlantic will become warmer
I find the presentation confusing. First, the AMOC is described as shutting down. THEN - you say it will reestablish itself at a lower latitude. Those are VERY different things. Throughout the last few million years the AMOC was at different latitudes depending on northern ice extent. IT did NOT shut down, and it NEVER has in the Cenozoic, excepts during the Paleo-Eocene Thermal Maximum. ALSO -- a complete shut down of the AMOC would mean a Global Anoxic Event (GAE). GAE's were more common during the Mesozoic. The AMOC is fueled by the temperature differential between the tropics and the poles. The poles are warming faster, and that differential IS diminishing --- BUT - not to the level of causing a COMPLETE shutdown of the AMOC causing a GAE. Repositioning the AMOC to another latitude will cause changes in local climates. Agriculture will be hit. BUT it won't be a GAE. GAE's are associated with major extinction events. The AMOC has moved many times during the Holocene, so it does not even cause a new climate age. BUT --- a GAE will cause a new climate age -- they always do. CO2 level was between 650 ppm and 3500 ppm during the PETM, 55 mya. We are not close to that ---- YET. We are at 420ppm, going up at 2.5ppm/year. So, we will hit 650ppm in about 100 years. Then, the S***T will hit the fan. The movement of the AMOC this century is only the appetizer.
It's the lack of society now trying and caring to fix these issues!! People gave up! Trying to get machines now to these tasks. Nobody even rolls their sleeves up anymore and get the hands dirty. These issues can be solved!! Definitely not overnight like people would want these days!! Hurry up😂
News in UK politics. The government today are discussing removing the allowance to build wind turbines on land in England. Also proposing to expand airport facilities and increase flights... Currently the UK government is being run by very rich backers on the fossil fuel industry.. Madness
If it is indeed the case that we are witnessing the AMOC about to switch-off from its current route, to thence reassert itself on a southward [or more southern] cross-Atlantic pathway, after leaving its eastern-coastal-USA north-flowing leg, and that the period of high-amplitude alternating swings in variation of the current occurs [as is widely demonstrated historically through state-change of dichotomous-mode experiments], we will, in the near(decadal)-future, be seeing gigantic flood-tides, more resembling massively enhanced hurricane-induced swell-tides, around the entire rim of the North Atlantic coastline. These flood-tides would oscillate by region, and alternate by ebb(low-tide) and flow(high-tide), and by a periodicity of amplitude of between months to years, forcing and withdrawing a range(amplitude) of up-to tens-of-metres of water depth. Wow, I just thought that out. This one definitely deserves a movie. If you want to fund it get back to me. Back to Paul, Regina & Peter, thanks for a right bloody corker of a YT vid guys.
Another Must see is Harvard University with Noble winner professor of Astronomy Chemistry is Jim Anderson on explaining his new Solar Plane which flies below our stratosphere and does very in-depth data on on earths atmosphere and a huge number of other lider and radar scanning technologies We are in a Very Scarey Situation now and especially America 🙏🏼🕊🌏
I’m concerned with speaking about any of these things with anybody. Afraid they will stress out about it too much /: Besides, they cannot do anything about it. I’ve told my friends an fam in Cali they should move out here to Ohio. Also have a son in Texas… ugh. How do you tell people you love about these things?
Idk. I think everyone should know. The pros outweigh the cons. Try this. Tell some family and friends to circle February on their calendar and write the words *1.7 News* and leave it vague like that. Then if the temp hits, ask them if they’ve seen the news. They will ask you how you were so magically prophetic. Then tell them how you knew and ask them if they want to know other things, easy stuff like the 0.2 rise per decade.
This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body. Walt Whitman
Many people have a romanticised view of the planet. As if it’s a kind and loving mother who cares for us. Your colleague’s “wild beast” seems far more believable… unaware of us except for the dreadful case of septic hives we’re giving it. _Watch out when it starts to scratch._
Today I sowed the labels into my four-year-old great-grandson's school uniform for his first day on Monday. I sowed my own into my school uniform aged eleven, many years ago. I had tears in my eyes at the thought of his future.
❤😢
It's heartbreaking for those with young children in the family. Every sympathy. ❤ I've been blessed by having no grandchildren, but I feel for innocent children everywhere.
Thanks as always Peter, Paul and Regina. You are providing a great service that all should tune in to.
You're welcome
Thank you so much for your support.
I'm glad someone has the spine to talk about this stuff. Nothing can be done at this point to throw the brakes on this juggernaut.
I couldn't agree more. We gonna suffer and many will die.
I can never understand why people basically say "oh well, nothing we can do, may as well keep going"
Of course brakes can be applied and once other countries see the modern countries embracing slowing down and able to make a go of it they are more likely to follow.
There's 40.12kw of energy in a gallon of diesel, 10.6 per litre, maybe don't go for a driving holiday, maybe don't have Nascar, maybe don't get food delivered daily, consume 40% less overall, these are considered brakes as far as emissions are concerned and as a society they wouldn't be classed as nothing.
The best thing we can do as individuals to affect less havoc upon the planet is to adopt a vegan diet.
The oil industry has financial interest in people giving up and continuing business as usual.
However each fragment of a degree heating we can avoid, is a good thing. There are already consequences, and they will increase, but let us not make it worse.
@@PleaseDontEatAnimals thats one of the things i have done. But also i plan to get involved in being an activist against corporate climate change causes
I have been listening to Paul since he started his channel and his information has never been wrong....so thank you for including him
Thank you, Peter, Paul, and Regina, for explaining this news.
You're welcome
Sounds like a band.
The thing about technology, until the grid goes down. We can watch, globally, our own demise.
some say this is alarmism. i say why do u want to loose cities like Tokyo, Japan, Mexico Cisty, Mexico. Mumbai, India, Sáo Paulo, Brazil., New York City, USA, Shanghai, China , Lagos, Nigeria, Los Angeles, USA.... just to name a few of the big ones. plus where are they going to go? and how will we feed them if our crop land is ruined? its interesting hand waving these anti intellectuals posture with. anyways great video thank you all for your contiibutions.
They call it alarmism to shut people up.
I think I've come to acceptance of our doom and ever-increasing horror from now on, each year worse than the one before.
Imagine the global grief and depression once this reality hits for the masses. Therapists will be as available as toilet paper, during the 2020 T.P. Apocalypse!
Can you buy stocks in the phycology/therapy field?
The first I heard about this problem was a PBS Nova documentary in 1990. I didn't expect to see it happening in my lifetime, though. "Faster than expected" indeed...
Yes, it was known then... I moved house in 1989 and I knew about the risk of AMOC weakening, and chose my destination accordingly.
What’s interesting is that without the progress made in compute capabilities over the last couple decades, we might not have had the ability to extract and analyze the enormous data that has to be processed in order to determine the actual extent of the problem. We are lucky that compute technology has lined up in time with climate disruption such that it’s possible for us to see what’s coming. Unlucky though that we don’t have alternative energy usage lined up in proper time to prevent disaster.
'Unlucky' that we don't have alternatives? Or a willful bloody blindness and monstrous procrastination by governments, combined with fossil fuel 'lobbying' which has bribed them to close their eyes to it....?
We have sai, ccs, artificiell environment etc.
Bzzzt : wrong. Without those data models and obsessively fetishizing them to the point where one model is compared to another and these jokers call it science. Nothing is real-world and in fact the farther away it gets abstracted the more attention this crowd gives it. Gamers gonna game the game.
The real kicker is poverty: across centuries and around the world Wealth of a society is directly, EXACTLY, tied to Energy Consumption. Up and down in lockstep. While you wait around in a 15-min city for sun or wind to do your laundry, our green ‘stewards’ of the new Gaia Royale will be surveying the wilding lands on horseback while on foxhunts surrounded by Boston Dynamics cyberdogs. Think Bill Gates will give up his jet, or the tech bros their orbital selfies? Believe that King “Terra Carta” Charles will give up his collection of racing motorcycles, or garages full of sports cars?
There is no plan. No logistics to grapple with any of this. This is about power: the blue-bloods want their colonies back and think they’ve worked out Sustainable Slavery. WEF/ESG protocols demand we are poor, hungry and controllable.
There is no plan. No logistics to grapple with this and reduces to marketing blather. We do all this Energy Blind, unaware of the vast amount of one-time fossil energy used to achieve this as we reach Peak extraction. This means it only gets more expensive with each barrel pulled, and uses more of that pulled energy to get at the next.
Riddle-me-this: How is a solar panel made, when solar power is not industrial strength? Nor can turbines generate power to make more turbines: we will require diesel for a long-long time. Worse, all the special metals for this wondrous electrification have yet to be mined: that is, we must dig up as much {copper} as all of mankind has ever mined, All Over Again - with the easy ore grand-dad found is now 1/3 the concentrations meaning 5-7x the trailings, dross, sludge to get at these resources. So green. This must be faced whatever politics you hold dear or want to see realized.
When people finally understand Green means some low-ambition, survival-mode neo-Waltons post-Depression lifestyle they will stop listening to this. I’m sympathetic, but do not see clear ideas about hard facts.
All modalities of the same event
IF we paid attention to Nature, common sense was telling us. Unfortunately humans no longer listen to their souls or the world around us.
Hey media, this is what having a spine looks like.
thanks for caring about our world. love
You're welcome.
Thanks for making the bad news easy to understand. I'm a botanist, not a climate scientist.
The planet will be fine. We are the ones that are screwed.
If we go up 4-5C fast enough no life will be able to adapt to start it all over again. The planet could end up like a Venus.
Sounds almost like a George Carlin quote ;-) Anyways, it's true..
Say something original
@@nsbd90nowthat wont happen. We've had 100x the carbon dioxide we have now before.
Such a catchy title Regina!! Many thanks to you and Paul Beckwith and Dr Peter Carter..no wonder that Idalia hurricane got so strong with ocean temps around the 90s or so to give it added juice to get stronger..I also looked at the radar forecast for the next couple of weeks and there's many tropical depressions that could easily form with these warm waters and lack of wind shear..People on the East Coast and Florida had better start praying because it looks like a fierce rest of hurricane season..Thanks for all you do everyone we appreciate each of you!!
Thank you so much for your support!
I can hear that urgency in your voice there Paul. Your's being the more scientific mind amongst the three of you up there (as far as I know), that's what gives me the chill running down my spine.
Yes, thank you.your explanations are easy to understand.why aren't they front page news rather than trumps mugshot?
Thank you for your support
Good work.
Thank-you
IPCC is a consensus tilted to the conservative by design. Their forecasted harm is necessarily at the optimistic end of the spectrum. When the IPCC said 30 CM of sea level rise, we should have expected 100 cm, which they changed to in the last reports. So, my Books, Pluvinergy and Pluvicopia, proposed that we must prepare to resolve 4 m of SLR this century. Both books show how to deal with the problems caused by the energy regime based on carbon rebalancing outside the lithosphere. And both books are stumped by the issue of AMOK slowing. I am just now realizing how bad the problem is already. The water cycle that Pluvicopia uses for our energy needs is the most potent process I know we can access. And it does remove heat from the oceans and the atmosphere at significant rates. I had not understood that the problem was so dire. The inertia in the system is so vast that it may give us some extra time.
The inertia of the earth system was the grace we thought was endless... Now the system is in motion and there is not anything one can do to hold the changes back less adding to the acceleration.
@@zerochance8581Exactly so.
@@zerochance8581"trust the plan" our ice age is first to happen after 240 mil years of Hothouse Climate state. Earth has operated itself anywhere from +4 in later Miocene to +13 in PETM and even higher still I believe in Cretaceous Thermal Maximum
@@zerochance8581for example taking Ozone Depleting Chemicals releases beyond Montreal Protocol expectations, or SAI, out of equation... ozone heals faster in a +2.5 world than a +1
If I have it right it's winter spring cusp month where hyper frozen Polar air first sees sun is when chloride cascades happen and shred the O3.
Feedback cycle to my mind that Warming means longer Deciduous leaf retention, shorter more fitful hibernation w prowling times and for humans more time outside (excepting peaks sealed in our aircon oases) that Gaia here is better able to protect us from the extra sun hours.
I would agree with the previous commentor. I’m glad someone has a spine to talk about this stuff, but also has the understanding and the communication skills to talk about it.
My communication skills start with a poor explanation in a quiet tone, and then goes to yelling at someone and calling them names when they don’t agree or understand.
I think it’s genetic. Anyway, greatly appreciate you using your super powers to explain this stuff to people like me.
Thank you very much,
Thank you for the information guys.
You're welcome
AMOC is a huge mechanical system with enormous amounts of energy stored as both heat and momentum. Such systems can stay latched in a definite stable state for long periods. When they are disturbed severely, they (1) go into a chaotic transition state for a period, and (2) then often reestablish in a different stable state. For example, during the Ice Ages the AMOC was clearly in a different state and there were monsoon rains in the Saraha. The word "Collapse" is not a good description of this process as it sounds like something is going to stop in its tracks. Not possible, just think of all the energy stored in it.
Well put
Semantics. The net result is what is important. Any way your slice it, this shift, collapse (or how ever you want to frame it) is catastrophic for many systems in its abruptness. If it can be connected to climate change then it must be given the attention needed.
Thank you for your warning, your maps, & for the explanation of the AMOC.
It would be nice to see more videos put together by you folks. Peter's video camera needs to work better.
Miss your smile Peter.
What do you think about the new pattern of the Antarctica sea ice? It appears to be more rounded.
Concerning the AMOC,
you might explain what we can do about this.
By rounded you mean melt from east and west sheets is balanced? Or less melt total?
As far as AMOC we have rudimentary control of precipitation events. No control of the seas.
HAARP can heat ionosphere. No idea if tested effect in troposphere. Could try with not just untested but untheorized attempt to heat atmosphere over EU.
They would ofc immediately (insofar as event is distinct moment) pull out of all climate change agreements. They'd object to aggressive cooling projects and every power plant capable of running would be unmothballed
Thanks for the detailed update.
You're welcome
Dear Peter, I was also mistaken about the cold blob. Acc. to Stefan Rahmstorf, the reason is the decreased heat transport rather than melt water. It is obvious after all: The cold blob is a good distance away from Greenland!
Or the opposite of obvious. If less heat is being transferred from the southwest then why would there be a distinct hole instead of a smooth reduction that continued on to the northeast? What's keeping things to the northeast of said hole so hot if the cause is less heat transport from the southwest?
A major factor causing the AMOC to slow is indeed the large volume of freshwater runoff from Greenland, where it meets the AMOC at the cold blob. The reduced salinity is what now causes part of the AMOC to overturn at the cold blob instead of continuing as far as Svalbard, where it used to overturn.
I'm simplifying a lot (eg there are multiple branches of the AMOC in the North Atlantic and southern Arctic) but it's the interaction of cold freshwater with the current which is causing the slowing.
Reduced heat transport is of course happening but there has to be a reason. The change in salinity is that reason.
The cold blob formed there because that's where it meets the current. It's still freshwater runoff from Greenland. That's where the runoff pools, and that's why the cold blob shows there.
Thanks!!
You're welcome
It's amazing that the deniers continue to be deniers.
It's a well orchestrated illusion. Media and governments have all been captured by the energy companies over a century ago in reality. It's hard to change it now, very few have so very much. As things get worse they squeeze harder to maintain what they feel is owed to them. What to do for it but educate yourself and be the best person you can be as you're one of the last people there will ever be 😊 just a generation or two and poof. Like this whole thing never happened.
I have cared about global warming for a while but it wasn't untill this summer that i turn my natural gas account off and the cold shower actually feel good.
Cold showers sounds just awful. I get wet, turn off the water, soap up, then rinse with room temperature water. Saves some water. Cold showers sound awful. When the heat finally gets here, no showers will be waiting.
Black hose on a roof in the sun, heats up pretty quick. Five gallons isn’t much length of hose.
I don’t think we need to abandon all technologies.
Climate change discourse has been political for years and the official versions seem to be edited to give people hope and motivation for change to avoid even worse scenarios. The problem is that nobody is getting ready for the absolute crisis.
Not all scientists have been dismissive of the Ditlevsen paper. Mr. Rahmstorf has publish a commentary on the dismissive arguments in his climate blog.
Rahmsdorf is a panic guy, he sells fearporn🎉
I would love to see a show about the people helping wildlife in Canada. Then i will send a donation. Great show.
The human species is a parasite and we deserve everything that’s coming. Hopefully, the next stage of humans will learn to treat it better and live harmoniously with it.
It's gonna hurt😂alot🤢
Food shocks, as long as directly associated with our climate crisis. With our global overshoot. How likely will that be for most people? All we'll hear will be complaints about the price of food, and oh, please help those starving overseas.
Eat, drink, and be merry. That's what the overwhelming majority of naked apes will do, until they can't. We primates just aren't up to the task of a worldwide predicament, in which all countries must cooperate, on a massive scale, for there to be any chance of effective mitigation. I'm afraid only adaptation remains, for survivors, as something we will be forced into, as things get much worse.
We're just being ourselves. Any animal would do the same, if given the opportunity.
Wise Ape. Party while you still can.
@@juliebarks3195 Oh god, Julie. That's very funny. Yes, what we need are "wise apes" instead of the terribly misnamed "wise man" referred to as "Homo sapiens," (who are in perpetual denial of their true identity), to think they are so special, as to not being a part of the animal kingdom. Thank you for the compliment.
So true 👍
Ya Paul.. tell us more about our worst nightmares. Its all so very uh interesting.
Current sea water temperature at Cape Canaveral today is 83.3 degrees, not 100.
I don’t believe they said anything about it being 100.
I do believe it’s been documented that there are areas off the coast of Florida that are 100°F
The effect on phytoplankton bloom is what I want to learn more about, and possible effects on ocean life.
If AMOC is amok, then there'll be no warm current towards the north pole. Then the ice cap will advance, sea levels will FALL, and we'll cool down.
And as for Antarctica and the Southern Hemisphere?
@ImproveYourMagic They will bake. In between, massive storms.
You lack a basic understanding of earth, science and physics.
You may want to watch a few more interviews with Paul Beckwith. He’s a very good teacher in my opinion. I think you would pick up a lot.
Whoa, man, amazing insight. You should get this published in a journal. This incredible piece of scientific reasoning you have here is wasted in a UA-cam comments section.
Interesting times.
The expert regarding AMOC weakening is German scientist Stefan Rahmstorf. He studied exactly this topic for many years and there are even UA-cam videos with some of his speeches available.
Paul. Buy a reusable coffee mug. Don't use disposable cups for your coffee.
Coffee imported from poor countries in the global south is extremely bad for the climate and environment. Just sayin. I am guilty as well.
They all need to not travel to the next COP. It's not accomplishing anything.
BTW, if IPCC talks about very low probability it talks about less then 10 %!
Given this future, what are your plans? Where will you go? How will you survive? Is it worth even trying?
Look up GLEN Gawarkewicz at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. He studies this. Brilliant man
And because of it, I foind out that at the regiob between México and Bermudz de devvelopment of concetion those last qeek, follow up the AMOC tracking ....its very interesting
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You know, I will be very sincery with you ...open my heaty ...ever nigth I cry becayse of our end ....
The End of the wirld
Thanks again for your expertise.
Ive learned so much ❤
Whats happening with methane sudden jump in Alaska? Is it the bomb or just a burp???
What are you talking about? Mean this as a serious question.
Yes. There’s been a big spike in methane reported in Barrow, Alaska.
Here at Brasil, May be, according tô modeling, that we going tô have flood at The South for net week
Thanks.
You're welcome
Did the Tonga underwater super volcano eruption in 2022 add to the running amok?
IPCC MODELS ARE FLAWED so to take these things seriously without considering géo engineering and weather modification by states is to say the least shortsighted and biased. But as was said. All scenarios lead to slowdown. So why bother about one of the REAL cause. Let s stick with IPCC
Not to underplay what Beckwith et al. are describing; however, I understand that the earth's circulation + ocean-terrestrial boundaries (which sets up macroscale ocean and atmospheric circulation, in any case) plays a large part in maintaining AMOC (other factors such as temp, oxygen and salinity notwithstanding)..
WAIS often collapses around 400ppm/m3, CO2, with a 5 metre sea level rise, West Antarctica only contributes 3 metres of this, but if AMOC weakening contributes 2 metres, that explains everything. Also a sea level rise of 1 or 2 feet, could float WAIS off it's groundings, causing the collapse in the first place. The sea level rise stalls the Gulf Stream, causing a Little Ice Age. Is it really too late?
Fortantly this tropical storm diante reach the northeast of Bradil, its around Cabo Verde today
The ITCZ, The Inter tropical Convergence Zone is displaced from its normal pattern
Each day im anticipating my exit, my anxiety is great, my sadness and heartbreak too great.😢
We are talking our way to extension.
The finishing of AMOC will lead tô The finish of ocean curculation as we know. U believe The The Film with Dennis Quaid , The Day after Tomorrow is rigth, The North Atlantic will become frozen, and the Gouth Atlantic will become warmer
I find the presentation confusing.
First, the AMOC is described as shutting down.
THEN - you say it will reestablish itself at a lower latitude.
Those are VERY different things.
Throughout the last few million years the AMOC was at different latitudes depending on northern ice extent.
IT did NOT shut down, and it NEVER has in the Cenozoic, excepts during the Paleo-Eocene Thermal Maximum.
ALSO -- a complete shut down of the AMOC would mean a Global Anoxic Event (GAE).
GAE's were more common during the Mesozoic.
The AMOC is fueled by the temperature differential between the tropics and the poles.
The poles are warming faster, and that differential IS diminishing ---
BUT - not to the level of causing a COMPLETE shutdown of the AMOC causing a GAE.
Repositioning the AMOC to another latitude will cause changes in local climates.
Agriculture will be hit.
BUT it won't be a GAE. GAE's are associated with major extinction events.
The AMOC has moved many times during the Holocene, so it does not even cause a new climate age.
BUT --- a GAE will cause a new climate age -- they always do.
CO2 level was between 650 ppm and 3500 ppm during the PETM, 55 mya.
We are not close to that ---- YET.
We are at 420ppm, going up at 2.5ppm/year.
So, we will hit 650ppm in about 100 years.
Then, the S***T will hit the fan.
The movement of the AMOC this century is only the appetizer.
It's the lack of society now trying and caring to fix these issues!! People gave up! Trying to get machines now to these tasks. Nobody even rolls their sleeves up anymore and get the hands dirty.
These issues can be solved!! Definitely not overnight like people would want these days!! Hurry up😂
Wally passed still thinking that the AMOC wouldn't be at risk. Wonder what he'd think now?
News in UK politics. The government today are discussing removing the allowance to build wind turbines on land in England. Also proposing to expand airport facilities and increase flights... Currently the UK government is being run by very rich backers on the fossil fuel industry.. Madness
July 1981, ocean temps reached 101, August 15, 1981 Hurricane Dennis hit,
It's liable to move rainfall (monsoon) *South* rather than "Down"
If it is indeed the case that we are witnessing the AMOC about to switch-off from its current route, to thence reassert itself on a southward [or more southern] cross-Atlantic pathway, after leaving its eastern-coastal-USA north-flowing leg, and that the period of high-amplitude alternating swings in variation of the current occurs [as is widely demonstrated historically through state-change of dichotomous-mode experiments], we will, in the near(decadal)-future, be seeing gigantic flood-tides, more resembling massively enhanced hurricane-induced swell-tides, around the entire rim of the North Atlantic coastline. These flood-tides would oscillate by region, and alternate by ebb(low-tide) and flow(high-tide), and by a periodicity of amplitude of between months to years, forcing and withdrawing a range(amplitude) of up-to tens-of-metres of water depth.
Wow, I just thought that out. This one definitely deserves a movie. If you want to fund it get back to me.
Back to Paul, Regina & Peter, thanks for a right bloody corker of a YT vid guys.
Its not as bad as living under "global boiling" lol
Another Must see is Harvard University with Noble winner professor of Astronomy Chemistry is Jim Anderson on explaining his new Solar Plane which flies below our stratosphere and does very in-depth data on on earths atmosphere and a huge number of other lider and radar scanning technologies We are in a Very Scarey Situation now and especially America 🙏🏼🕊🌏
The sky is falling! Someone must catch it fast.
Save Our Planet Now
...did I hear that probability right??
That's my size Tim Hortons 😄
I’m concerned with speaking about any of these things with anybody. Afraid they will stress out about it too much /: Besides, they cannot do anything about it. I’ve told my friends an fam in Cali they should move out here to Ohio. Also have a son in Texas… ugh. How do you tell people you love about these things?
Talking about this imposible. Maybe better to be ignorant, so I don't bring it up.😢
Idk. I think everyone should know. The pros outweigh the cons.
Try this. Tell some family and friends to circle February on their calendar and write the words *1.7 News* and leave it vague like that.
Then if the temp hits, ask them if they’ve seen the news.
They will ask you how you were so magically prophetic. Then tell them how you knew and ask them if they want to know other things, easy stuff like the 0.2 rise per decade.
Great program!
Thank-you
This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body.
Walt Whitman
Thanks for that! ❤
Many people have a romanticised view of the planet. As if it’s a kind and loving mother who cares for us.
Your colleague’s “wild beast” seems far more believable… unaware of us except for the dreadful case of septic hives we’re giving it. _Watch out when it starts to scratch._
If it shuts down .....you will need gas coal oil.....there will be no green stuff ...
How do we correct the infrastructure!?
That is the solution.
Step the first (which is numbered zero) is to convince more than half the population to see which direction is that of correction.
Even the Bible tells us that the sun will have sort of a nova in Isaiah 30:26 It also talks about the water going bad. So brace yourselves.
we warned you all you DIDNT LISTEN
the planet red kachina is here again mother earth will move.
Stay with God
Im betting we blow ourselves up first
lol probably
Could it be something to do with the ongoing magnetic pole shift disaster coming soon
😂😂😂
we are in Paradise and we picked the fruit...
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