Is the Atlantic Meridional Overturning current collapsing?
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The large-scale water current system, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC), has been slowing down over the decades, heading close to a collapse. Yet another study shows how close we are. ThePrint #̦PureScience, Sandhya Ramesh explains.
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I really liked the way you broke down the talk into logically understandable units
Another bullshit study. Lol
It's alarming how often those that study the changes, underestimate the speed of the changes. Knowing I'm too old to be around then gives me not comfort being a father and grandfather.
My geology professor told us that what we see today result from things that happened approximately 300billion and thirty tree years ago!
He was told by his professor 33 years ago that those things happened approximately 300billion years ago.
I feel so sorry for my grandchildren…. Ha, ha.
@@JohanThiart
the universe itself is estimated to be only about 13.8 billion years old
@@GotMyTowel42 thanks.
@@JohanThiart no worries
@@GotMyTowel42 what is a few hundred kazillion years, anyway.
Great journalism and very nicely explained, great initiative by the print to cover such diverse and important topics.
The most pressing tipping point to be concerned about. Is methane being released from the ocean floor in the Arctic region.
Russia had a science vessel studying whether it has started happening yet in 2021. After 9 months of research just off the Coast of Siberia. It left in November. I haven't heard anything about what it found.
Russia started it's offensive in Ukraine 3 months after that.
If anyone knows what ever became of that?
Please comment
I don't remember if was a studio from Peter Carter or someone else
If a big quantity of methane will come out from Siberia by permafrost melting in 3 weeks the global temperature will increase around 3/5 C°
But who really knows what will happen ?
Who has a reliable 🔮 ?
Eastern Siberian Shelf will be the death of us😢
What happened to Natalie?
Do you think Russia knows something from their research that pushed the invasion? The more I watch videos like this, the more I think larger pieces controlled by money and power are making decisions because they know things we don't. I live in MN, USA and there are parcels of land along Lake Superior that are starting to get gobbled up by people and corporations that you wouldn't think would want/need them. Maybe I'm just a doom scroller now.
I think it would shock most people that the overwhelming number of corporate and government decisions are directly due to climate change impacts. Russia particularly stands to gain a lot by its location in terms of a world that is devastated by climate change where the equatorial third of the world experiences extreme desertification. Their thought about the Ukraine? Control the access to energy throughout the shift and profit from that greater than a third (likely closer to 2/3rds of the world needing to use your pipeline and your oil.
It's much more complicated in many ways. But it seems the question of world leaders acting upon rapid, major shift climate disruptions is a solid yes, every decision they make is regarding the world that will be due to the shifts, and much less the world at current.
This is terrifying. But very well explained!
Stumbled across this while trying to get to sleep - thanks for keeping me awake now!
2057 - my kids will be in their 50s 😮
😂 Funny, but not funny….😮
Like the quotation in background - "If you are over thinking, write. If you are underthinking, read."
A very helpful thing to point out! Thanks.
Sad that you have completely ignored the magnetic pole shift and the steadily weakening magnetic field
Magnetic pole shifts have occurred very regularly throughout Earth's history (look at the Atlantic ridge for the evidence). There's no correlation for any major changes that match, biological or geological.
@@rhaedas9085 6000 years. That is not often. And every occurrence is marked by tremendous changes in climate and the inhabitants of earth. How long ago was the Sahara desert a tropical rain forest? In any case you believe in man made climate change. I and not so foolish as to believe our effects on the greater scheme of things
humans do not alter global temperature; the sun does that. the sun governs all weather on the planet. the pole shift and weakening magnetic field cannot be ignored, but you do ignore it. and you're wrong for doing so. you're just parroting U.N. propaganda.
This is my first time viewing The Print, it definitely marks the first of many ! I am totally impressed with your clear, precise coverage of the topic using excellent graphics coupled with solid, peer reviewed information concerning what has, is currently and will likely become of the AMOC. Unlike several other sites, you make it clear that this scenario will take years, possibly decades before it will collapse completely. I will look forward to watching more of your work as I watch older videos. Thank you for your quality work !
Thanks for the clear video. I'm from UK and my husband's from Ireland, but we live in Italy. I'm constantly wondering whether we should stay here (where it's getting hotter and hotter) or move back to the North of Europe (but then the risk is it getting really cold if the AMOC shuts down). I'd feel better about the prediction that it's not happening immediately if it hadn't been for us already reaching 1.5 degrees, when they said that was at least 20 years away!!
Stay in italy. Amoc gets in its 20 to 40 years cooler phase. Starting 2025 to 2035.
When this happens frankly there will be no place to run. Everyones life will be decided by a throw of dice by fate, while 5 faces of the dice is ‘die’ the 6th face will be ‘survive’. So one will always have 1/6th probability of survival.
Now extrapolate this probability for 600 billion people and calculate the survival rate.
That is how much can one truly hope to survive.
And of course, Nick Breeze (ClimatGenn) is the only one (again) who interviewed the author of the study.
The latest and most significant change to ocean currents occurred with the formation of the Isthmus of Panama some 2.5 million years ago. Is it a mere coincidence that hominins began flourishing around that time?
Around that time might be before the occurrence. We don't know as much as we think, and it's all estimates.
Over the last 2.5 million years, the AMOC collapsed 25 times. These events are commonly referred to as Dansgaard-Oeschger events, identified initially using ice core samples taken from the Greenlandic ice.
Collapses are regular and predictable, much as the current collapse is. It's a direct result of combined natural events such as the Milankovitch cycles and sunspots.
It is not due to anthropogenic causes.
It is, greenland ice melting severly weakens AMOC.
Greenland ice melting is directly caused by human inducted global warming, therefor it is at least partly caused by us.
@@GinkgoRobur27 that's plausible.
@@GinkgoRobur27bullshit ginko
If climate change was real Barack Obama would have never spent 15 million USD on a pacific beachfront property.
Let's face it: Global warming is a fraud.
Why?
Well, the temperature curves of the climatologists all start at the end of the little ice age 1850/60 - at a temperature low point.
If you let the temperature curves start earlier (it was warmer then), then there is no global warming at all.
The global warming exists only in the computer and in the media.
If climate change was real Barack Obama would have never spent 15 million USD on a pacific beachfront property.
They conceal that the CO2 value in the pre-industrial time was higher than 260 or 280 ppm CO2. Already in an encyclopedia of 1885 one found values of 0,04% = 400 ppm. But these higher values were simply left out.
How exactly is the fraud & cheating done?
1. They show you only a part of the temperature data
2. They do not show and tell you that there are a lot of higher temperatures from the past by hiding the periods BEFORE the last small ice age 1850-1880.
3. They do not tell you that it was already 3 times warmer in the last 3000 years than now (Minoan warm period 1000 before Christ, Roman warm period around the year zero, the medieval warm period around 1000 and the warm period today ).
4. They do not tell you that the climate is cyclic and that there are several different cycles, which can explain completely , the existing temperature differences without one molecule of CO2.
5. they do not tell that alone a mimimal weaker cloud cover leads to a higher irradiation and higher temperatures.
6. They change data from the past and makes the past colder. NOAA, NASA, WMO, DWD, but also organizations in many countries of the world play dirty They do not tell you for example the end of an interglacial period i.e.
They manipulate past data like e.g. in the diagram from the 3rd assessment report of the IPCC (part 1, chap.) where the medieval warm period as well as the small interglacial period simply disappeared !
This is no coincidence as hacked Climategate emails prove.
Dr. Jonathan Overpack writes to Dr. David Demming: "We have to get rid of the medieval warm period".
7. They don't tell you that they took out at least 7500 climate stations world-wide starting from the end of the 80's to today. Mainly stations in higher altitudes and cooler regions were deleted from the weather stations net. Disappeared.
A comparison of the annual average temperature of all stations before and after the removal of the 7500 stations automatically results in a warming.
A "statistically generated" warming by a reduced data basis. This is fraud.. Warming on paper.
In Germany there are at the time 08/2022 2575 weather stations of the German weather service DWD.
Up to this time 2,526 stations were removed from the measuring network since the beginning of the measurements.
Replaced from 1.1.71 to 31.12. 1980 128 stations
Replaced from 1.1.81 to 31.12.1990 96 stations
Replaced from 1.1.91 to 31.12. 2000 95 stations
Replaced from 1.1.00 to 31.12.2010 271 stations
Replaced from 1.1.11 to 31.12.2020 464 stations
Replaced from 1.1.21 to 31.08.2022 138 stations
Estimated by end of this decade if trend continues in the same speed
848 stations from 1/1/2021 to 12/31/2030
Only 30 of these 2575 existing measuring stations have been in continuous operation since 1885.
New stations were installed primarily in warmer regions.
The german temperature increase of 1.6 degrees Celsius from 1885 to today, sold by the DWD as WARMING, can be called a deliberate fraud with a clear conscience. Because maybe more than 1 Degree Celsius is caused only by a high percentage of New stations in warmer regions.
What do we learn from this.
More and more top management of government agencies try to fool you.
8. They do not incorporate the heat island effect in their data.
The heat island effect or UHI (Urban heat island) is the effect that the environments of almost all measuring stations have changed dramatically in the last 100 years.
Rivers and creeks have been straightened, wetlands have been filled in, meadows have been drained, meadows have been turned into fields. In many places you have been roads or residential, commercial or industrisl zones with lots of buildings and paved surface. Also roads, airfields etc.
Traffic and industry increased extremely. One or the other cold air corridor was closed off. The cities are further compressed.
Higher temperatures are measured as a result.
Examples:
Rural stations in USA had only 0.09 degrees C temperature increase in 100 years. Urban measuring stations, on the other hand, had a temperature increase of 0.8 degrees in 100 years.
That is factor NINE. Nine times.
And that although the cities in the USA are usually much more dispersed than the cities in Germany.
Depending on the country and the time period, 0.5 - 1 degree of the average temperature would have to be subtracted from the current values in order to consider this urban heat island effect properly.
In addition there are from the end of the 80's some in this direction going investigations of the weather service chief of the USA at that time Mr. Karl.
The German weather service refuses to consider the heat island effect. Also the chief-liar-webpage klimafakten.de tries this to hide this UHI effect or talk it down.
9. They do not tell you that they never properly compared new temperature measurements to the old technology.
The average temperature in Germany remained about the same from 1900 to 1985. From 1985 to 2000, the average temperature increased by 1 degree in total.
Then, from 2000 on, the average temperature remained the same again.
Strange?
No - from 1985 to 2000, the DWD changed its measurement methodology from alcohol or mercury thermometers to PT100 Sensors.
According to its own statements, the DWD did NOT carry out any comparative measurements of the old and the new measuring methods.
A meteorologist compared both measuring methods for 6.5 years.
And found the following facts:
The new method resulted in an average difference of plus 0.93 degrees, on 26% of the days the difference was between 1- 3 degrees.
So the warming is caused by not taking into account the temperature difference after changing the measuring methods. FRAUD by government agency.
10. homogenization, data correction (Iceland, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, South Africa e.g.) Always it became warmer in the data afterwards.
NASA. 2010: 120 measuring stations, 91 showed warming ,
2012, 108 stations showed warming.
The measured data were the same.
Only those of 2012 were fudged.
NASA GISS satellite data. Real 18 years hardly any warming trend. After that data manipulation and temperature increase. The second satellite data provider (Alabama) did not go along with the fraud.
Satellite measurements are used for fraud.
Example: gauges in ports worldwide measure 1.2 to 1.9 mm sea level rise per year. Consistent.
Satellite measurements are 3 mm. Rising.
12.
Much warmer than today it was in the Middle Stone Age 4500 B.C. likewise in the Neolithic 2500 B.C. also in the Bronze Age 1200 B.C. of course. In the Roman Warm Period around the birth of Christ 6,000 years ago hippos and crocodiles lived in what is now the Sahara 2000 -1400 b.C..
In the Subboreal it was warmer than today (heyday in Egypt)
500 to 370 b.C. wine grew in Upper Bavaria and Scotland.
218 b.C. Hannibal crossed the Alps with elephants
Climate optimum of the Middle Ages 1-2 degrees higher temperatures than today 1430 - 1465 cool summers, cold winters, crop failures
1500-1550 general climate improvement
from 1550 again cooler, 1-2 degrees lower than before
Until 1630 cool summers, glacier advances
1680 - 1730 warm summers mild winters good wine years
From 1739/40 severe winters, glacier advances
1755 -1811 warm summers - annual mean temperature like today 1850-1880 cooler period, glaciers growing
since 1880 transition to further warming, with peak between 1905 and 1930 (Flohn, Deutscher Geographentag 1959)
The public broadcasters and the mainstream media use the most elegant form of lying. They hide relevant information from you.
And they bring false reports. If they turn out to be false, there is no correction, and if there is, then it's on the bottom left of page xx. This is how it is done. For thousands of years.
Who does Not Know the Truth, is simply a Fool... Yet who Knows the Truth and Calls it a Lie, is a Criminal. Bertolt Brecht
Agreed, and collapse is also a hyperbolic characterization.
"Widespread coverage" everywhere but not in India.I see this only on the print. Not on any other news channel.🙂
:) Thank you for your support!
@@sandygrains you should make more videos on print and think of creating a science segment in the print media. We nerds are more interested in science journalism than the useless political grumble.😣
Others are busy talking about far important things like Ambanis wedding, Sushant Singh Rajputs suicide, mangoes that Modi likes etc.
Thank you for your very clear exposition, a great help.
Thank you so much for this important information!
Excellent Explanation. Thanks.
I'm pretty sure it is a cause for concern right now. Will all the horrible stuff going on right now, this should be our main focus
Thank you so much Sandhya mam for this wonderful enlightening session .
I gave up a career in environmental sciences because i didnt want to know when the thresholds are crossed. I still dont want to know when this current will collapse.
The Industrial Revolution started in 1750 and not 1850, following the Agricultural Revolution.
So...what caused the Little Ice age? .....was it the AMOC?... AND i would also like to know when did we start tracking the variation in the AMOC? YOU SAY 1850'S, but are there any records from before?
No only from 2004
You said that if AMOC collapses, it will affect the Amazon rainforest and turn it into Savanna. What is the nexus between the two is not explained.
The Amazon rainforest is losing resilience and already heading for collapse due to longer dry season, reduced moisture levels and, very especially, deforestation. An AMOC shutdown would shift the dry and wet seasons, which could give it a final push, but this is unclear:
"The effect of an AMOC collapse on the Amazon Basin remains unclear (Wunderling et al., 2021[4]) with
studies projecting both a stabilising effect (Ciemer et al., 2021[23]) and conversely a drying of the Amazon
basin (OECD, 2021[5])." From the OECD's 2022 Climate Tipping Points report.
I think cutting down the forests will have a far greater effect on the amazon than changing ocean patterns.
Thank you for this. Do you think large scale artificial upwelling can help mitigate the effects of the AMOC collapsing? Should we begin preparing for AU?
Its a lie
Overturning the AMOC can happen as early as 2025.
Sandhya is a gr8 science correspondent
No worries. We have known about the AMOC for years, it fluctuates in strength over time. It can and does speed up and slow down, but it won’t collapse under any foreseeable future. This is just the usual fear porn.
It takes right around 1.0 ppmv of H2O or CO2 "greenhouse" gas in Earth's air mixture to make the same LWR energy per second as the solar SWR energy that Earth absorbs per second.
15 million cubic metres of water per second? With a billion cubic metres of water in a cubic km, surely the statement is wrong. Do you mean 15 million cubic km of water per second in the entire circuit? Or is it the amount of water passing a particular point along the route per second?
Current flow rate, not volume. The biggest issue is that it will mess up the fertile regions of the north Atlantic and Europe will get very cold. Day after tomorrow stiff isn't gonna happen, and though the end will be an ice age event, the rate of change will be over decades not in days.❤
Yes pretty soon.
The changes are already happening. And will accelerate
great explanation. the last time the AMOC collapsed was at the ed of the last Ice-age resulting in the European Ice-age to last 1,000 years longer than the american Ice-age. but still in the end it got warmer even in Europe. So the collapse of the AMOC might have strong consequences but it is not going to stop global warming.
We don't know what will happen in details
Nobody has a reliable 🔮
Within 15year there will be global cooling this is normal weather moves in cycles
its allready happing we are done
it looks inherently unstable as in chaotic systems whereby a small input can drive the system out of a sensitive minor equilibrium state into a new equilibrium state or some type of fluctuating state. It has been said that the younger Dryas Glaciation event was caused by the disturbance of this system by the emptying of lake agassiz into the arctic when the blocking glaciers were near the end of their melt--but perhaps i got it wrong and it was the gulf stream that was affected
I'll add this video to those of Paul Beckwith.
Good job.
And yet we live in denial- easier to believe lies than deal with problems. Our politicians have no clue.
Do our voters have sufficient understand to start asking their politician the right questions?
Blaming a politician is like blaming the child for bad behaviour alone and not holding parents responsible!
@@letsthink1991 i agree somewhat but the modern political climate has one half of the country in the grip of a cult leader and that voting block only believes the lies he tells.
She ends with "And when that begins we will definitely know." Yikes!
Summary: Humans bad for earth. In turn earth bad for humans. Eventually no more humans
Short and clear analysis
@@LivingNow678 *bows*
*with his job done, Captain Obvious ambles away*
Oh well be around for a very long time. What we're at risk of losing is civilization. People starving and angry. Governments becoming overwhelmed. That's what we're looking at if we keep on this path. May be too late already.
Creative Society mathematical model, 22 November 2022, 'our survival is in unity'
Creative Society USA
Scientists: Humanity has killed the oceans (3 months old video)
You should also mention that all the climate models have been working in mid part of predictions and those models have failed... So the most likely scenario is going to be worst case scenario as soon as possible
Yes it looks like
mathematical models = 🔮
But some probabilities are more plausible than others
See Stephan Rahmstorfs talks about AMOC, he's one of the leading scientists on the issue
I think you are rather optimistic about the timeline. I’m thinking more like 2040.
Your attributing the cause of the weakening of this circulation cycle to man's influence with out citing a clear cause is a weak argument. You completely ignored the fact the solar influence and space plasma electrostatic effects are known to be the primary drivers in the circulation of world wide oceans and atmosphere. There also seems to be a correlation here with the weakening of the earth's magnetic field and the implications that might have here. You need to broaden your view as to influences.
Yes
Nice report !
you are wrong we have 10 years or less
It’s coming no matter what - no stopping it.
So will this happen next year or in 2050
Thank you for the good news
I see pretty girl, I click. But the information is also very important. I knew the amoc current was big and important but now i realize how big and important it truly is
...but as always...the ones that CAN do something about it...dont listen...
Isn't it awesome how well they explained? Such a good job. So what do we do about it? Should we just admire the way Sky news put it? No one bothered we're all gonna freeze?
I agree,: Amoc is collapsing and it appears the whole biosphere will collapse as well, due to abrupt, extreme global overheating. This is the result of adding 3 trillion tons of greenhouse gasses to the skies, and thereby destablizing atmospheric chemistry. The gasses are recalcitrant and cant be removed, and humans are emmitting 40 billions more annually, so it looks like climate collapse is unavoidable. Agriculture collapse is likely within a decade or two. Very sad predicament!
like that song in the year 25 .25 if man is still alive
If you are overthinking,
Jibber jabber
Yes there was a documentary a few years ago where this kids dad tried to warn everyone to head to Mexico. Inspire of telling everyone they would die north of the line he headed north from DC to rescue his kid in NY. somehow they made it.😊
Oh. It's a hollywood movie.😅
Oh, it's too early to reach out for the pop corn.
Basically, we are doomed.
Braindead people yes
2:49 Is it a heat sink at North West Indian Ocean?
How is there only 17 views in 2 days, but the channel has 2.3 million subscribers?
It does every 10,000 years when the equatorial oceans cool like they are now.
Where is the study on Amoc held?
See Stephan Rahmstorfs talks about AMOC, he's one of the leading scientists on the issue
The cause of a slowing AMOC & Pacific overturning/upwelling currents is fall freezeup in Antarctica.
Rain-snow-meltwater freshen the sea_surface lowered pH from happy 8.2 to 8.05pH dissolving plankton 10-times faster vs PETM.
This makes weaker seaice and less brine volume.
The fix to raise oceanic pH !
Whatever ...
#IndustrialDesign🗜#Archeology
#Geophysics #Oceanography #Paleontology #Astronomy
We are both Underestimating and over estimating the resilience of Earth's balance mechanism, If AMOC stops as you say it cannot be permanent as it's effects will revive it back on first the cooling of Artic and Antartic will occur and the tropical and Temperate region to heat up Causing huge Evaporation of Water which will trigger massive storms in these regions but will cause high snowfall in the artic and Antartic causing the decreased Albedo effect in these region causing AMOC to restart again which will be very Violent due low Co2 absorption in the ocean and huge storms in the temperate region but I think this will happen sooner than you say but will not be as permanent as you say. the Simulation are wrong because these are not that dynamic or doesn't simply have the data from sudden collapse of Weather forces and have no Idea of the triggering forces and forget to account that Earth doesn't exist in one steady state but multiple steady states and the changes in those steady states are pretty violent and abrupt.
How much time it will take to restart after stopping?
In the Climate Change actually in course there are so many variables we don't even know
and nobody has a reliable 🔮
😂
Really? There is no correction for the biosphere once that goes
Once the downwelling point under Greenland snaps and becomes a gyre or whatever it will become it will simply reverse? Is that how earths mechanisms work? To put everything back as it was?
Or will it disturb global circulation, which disturbs upwelling and downwelling, therefore disturbing trophic relationships causing massive phenological shifts and migration disruptions? The hydrosphere will not be the same and that would cause massive destruction to the biosphere and so therefore trophic relationships.
The earth has positive and negative feedback mechanisms and long term cycles but like the Carbon Silicate those things take millions of years to rebalance
Balance is a tricky word, as some might take that to mean a return to like it was before. This is hardly the case, and possibly very unlikely as so many factors differ throughout the changes. Looking back at the Earth's geological and environmental history the stable period of the Holocene was an anomaly, and its unusual conditions allowed our civilization to grow and flourish. There is no "normal" to return to, only the continued ebb and flow as the climate readjusts to different stimuli (one being a huge amount of CO2 suddenly in the air) and finds a new balance with the new variables. That new balance likely won't be a great one for humans at that point, nor most of Earth's current species.
@@rhaedas9085
You got a focus
Thanks 👍
amoc makes brazilian lumberers work harder??
Talking points.
No it's not! No scientists know what is causing the rapid variability of ocean currents. I've done my homework on this topic. Did you do yours?
I predict a slowing over 100 years. (Glad that I don't live in the UK)
Atlantic Meridional Overturning "Circulation" (not Current)
The only good thing on Print not funded by feku
Why would son of bar dancer Rahul Gandhi fund Print or anyone else?
別に新しい話ではないし、未だ研究中の認識です。
最近"こんなに環境が悪くなったのに、本当に自分は子供を産んで良いのか"と考える若い女性が増えているらしい。
だから余り新しい恐怖と表現せず、今あなたが出来る最大限のCO2削減を実行するのが重要だと思う。
ちょっと横道に逸れるが、徐々にＥＶ車は逆にCO2を排出すると言われ始めましたね。
厳密に言えば製造時に多量のCO2が出るＥＶ車を買って、夜間に充電し、昼間に走行すると二重に環境を破壊している事になる。
インドも今年からクーラーが沢山導入される予測だと聞くが、夜間まで使い始めると室外機からの熱が負のスパイラルを生みますよ。（我々は経験済み）
もっと良く考えなければ・・・しばらく温暖化は加速するでしょうね。
AMOC
Atlantic Meridian Ocean Conveyor
No.
Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation.
You are both wrong and anyone who's read the literature knows this
Hmm.
when they don't know when this change will happen, how can they or you tell then we still have some time ?
The 1.5 D C was supposed to happen around 2040, but we have it now in 2024 with 12 months steady 1.5 plus.
We can't change or stop and restart the AMOC by hour technology itself, we can only stop the causing rising temp and so melting and so warming, desalination by stopping the climate change itself.
And as the temperature rise is slow follow the CO2 rise and WILL rise still some years even after we got 0 CO2 emissions, our maybe big party for worldwide CO2 Zero emission will be very bad crashed maybe just 2 days later with the AMOC collapse.
We have NO time left !
I agree we should see this as urgent! But re the 2040 date for a 1.5degree global temp rise - that may still prove accurate. We have just seen it reach that for the first time but it is not yet an average rise. Between now and '40 there will be years when globally the temperatures are again lower. But by some point, possibly '40, that will be the norm with some years higher others lower.
Maybe they are wrong maybe not
Creative Society mathematical model, 22 November 2022, 'our survival is in unity' (first hour video) 😮
@@carelgoodheir692 Oh sure, special in 2024 as El Nino I doubt that. Also as the CO2 is still pulled into air near same. I wonder if 2040 we have already a year of steady 2.0 and 2.5 C over, and we still doubt the 1.5 C as is was steady only for 7 years yet and not 30 years for climate and not be just weather.
Good Luck.
See Stephan Rahmstorfs talks about AMOC, he's one of the leading scientists on the issue
Are we doomed ? I want to go on my own terms
Check out nature bats last
The Day after tomorrow.
It's the sun..........................not humans
😂
Não me fala isso! Eu vivo à beira do Atlântico Sul.
Isn't there anything that's happening in a week or month that can lead to human extinction??
still long long long time~~
Nice TEETH
One point, if it is becourse of u, than why have it happens before umans exists?
There are huge natural fluxuations and changes. One gigantic one was the closing of the sea channel between north and south America. When Pacific Ocean water could flow freely into the Carribean and through it into the Atlantic it affected all other currents. The beginning and ending of ice ages affects currents of course - for example, when the immemse fresh water lake, of which the Great Lakes are a small remnant, flowed into the North Atlantic over a very short time span it affected salinity on a big enough scale to disrupt these currents. We are a huge new factor in change but of course change happened without us too - human caused changes happen alongside other changes.
Maybe they are wrong maybe not
Creative Society mathematical model, 22 November 2022, 'our survival is in unity'
Same association
Our oceans are dying (2 years old video, short one)
@eriklaken1025: it has it's called The Great Flood of 1862
Creative Society USA
Scientists: humanity killed the oceans (2/3 months old video)
None of you have clue of what you speak to. Facts are facts, try to stick with what is.
Were all going to die......
If AMOC collapses, European society will run amok.
European sociey has a habit of running amok, I was born in '43, in NL. The stresses of overpopulation and global connectedness are pushing people into fearing migration and that is triggering support for the kind of forces that arose in the last '20s. These forces led to the '30s and early '40s. More serious AGW damage will drive more to want to migrate and reducing living standards in Europe will ................ . Time will fill in the blank.
@@carelgoodheir692 The vast majority of migrants currently entering Europe orignate from failed states / totalitarian regimes in North Africa and Middle East. These migration patterns are associated with a lack of good governance, not climate change.
No cause for alarm. Folks.relax it's only all life on planet earth and the future of Youf grand children.
We are fucked
The braindead people yes
The next wild pig the climatemafia set free
But the NOAA said the following
The AMO is an ongoing series of long-duration changes in the sea surface temperature of the North Atlantic Ocean, with cool and warm phases that may last each for 20-40 years at a time and a difference of about 1°F between extremes. These changes are natural and have been occurring for at least the last 1,000 years.
This means that up to 2025 or even 2035 the positive Phase is here.
After that it will be a 20 to 40 year cooler temperature.
Maximum 1 Degree Fahrenheit between the extremes
No need to Panic. Better kick the ass of every panicman or -woman you meet.
Sounds like time when Church told the world how wrong is Galileo!
the new battery plant is not finiswh yet and it's obsolete(northvolt) it's not global warming, it's snowball earth. tell that to trudeau lol
Affective, not " impactful".
completely backwards...as usual from indian media.
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Don't push research that is not research, but only a play with models that may give any result. Scandinavian researchers deny the results of the models, arguing that it's just as likely that the current will become stronger instead of weaker. Ramesh needs to get her facts right.
After your digraceful video on Claudine Gay, i doubt your work can be considered "pure science", it would always reek of political bias, unless you have seen Shekhar Gupta's video on the same topic and changed your views.
"Trust the science _ the new normal... cult." Ofc. one should never question the singular 'Truth Deva' else you are a denier. Fun fact: Current global popl. can fit in the state of TX, and "Why we still have brutal cold snaps even as the planet warms to record levels" By Laura Paddison, CNN, Published 8:17 AM EST, Mon January 15, 2024 is a great read.
Maybe they are wrong maybe not
Creative Society mathematical model, 22 November 2022, 'our survival is in unity' (first hour video)
alot of "maybes" followed by confident doom prediction.
Had me right up until you said climate change...
A true denier, you know to switch off at the slightest mention of AGW🙂
Because you are obviously uneducated.
Tell me, what is causing the cooling?
I see its our fault again.
half baked horror stories , let us have some real good science solutions pl.
Methane hydrate destabilizing is a lot scarier than this current shutting down
@@christopherleubner6633 I vote for drastically reduced biodiversity due to ocean acidification as the most scary: but, there are plenty to choose from, and my grandchildren will experience a range of them.
Check out Stephan Rahmstorfs talks about the AMOC, he's one of the leading scientists on it, and read his studies.
The cold spot that is weakening the AMOC is encroaching from the central north Atlantic south of Greenland, because Greenlands ice is melting and dumping cold water into the downwelling point, blocking the warm northward current and pushing it further and further south because it is cooling more water south of the downwelling point. This causes the lower, colder, ocean currents heading south to Antarctica to be further weakened because the upper warm current heading north is more disjointed and away from the downwelling point because the cold water is encroaching from the north moving southward, this is causing a widening of the northern cold interchange area where downwelling happens.
I'll rephrase, The northern atlantic downwelling is being weakened because it's being disjointed due to ice melts in Greenland over the last hundred years further flooding the upper warm current with cold water.
SCIENCE ? MORE LIKE PSEUDO SCIENCE
So where is the acclaimed "Gulf Stream". That's the warm current from the Gulf of Mexico across the North Atlantic to Britain, which explains why Britain is warmer than New York, even though Britain is much further North than New York ???? Woke Insanity !!!!!
What are you talking about?
The AMOC is not the Gulf Stream. The Gulf Stream is being split and it is being warmed and pushed further against North America towards New England and Canada while the eastern side by the UK and Ireland does something else entirely, this is because the cold spot that is weakening the AMOC is encroaching from the central north Atlantic south of Greenland, because Greenlands ice is melting and dumping cold water into the downwelling point, blocking the warm northward current and pushing it further and further south because it is cooling more water south of the downwelling point. This causes the lower, colder, ocean currents heading south to Antarctica to be further weakened because the upper warm current heading north is more disjointed and away from the downwelling point because the cold water is encroaching from the north moving southward, this is causing a widening of the northern cold interchange area where downwelling happens.
How do you not get this? The northern atlantic downwelling is being weakened because it's being disjointed due to ice melts in Greenland over the last hundred years further flooding the upper warm current with cold water.
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