Do you edit videos on your phone? Drop a comment with what app you use to edit! And if you want more info on performance testing the new Dimensity 9400, I have a full write up here using REAL WORLD apps! www.patreon.com/posts/oppo-find-x8-pro-116415747
I've tried to edit a few videos for posting online from my phone. After trying a variety (it is surprisingly difficult to research decent apps that aren't targeted at tiktok or something), I had decided on capcut. It was surprisingly quick to render 8 to 30 minute videos on my snapdragon 835 phone. Lumafusion doesn't show up when I search it on the play store....
I think maybe Qualcomm focused a little too much on Geekbench scores with the 8 Elite. I've seen enough videos that show off how "LOOK AT THE 10,000 MULTI SCORE ON THE 8 ELITE" while the Dimensity 9400 is slightly behind, but it seems the 9400 does better in real world tests. I'm curious if the Find X8 Ultra is going to stick with the 9400 because I'm really tempted to get a MediaTek device this upcoming year.
That's kinda my findings too. The 8 Elite dominates the synthetic scores... I bet the ultras will likely go with Qualcomm, but I hope some brands hold out and try the Dimensity if only to save a couple bucks on manufacturing costs.
@SomeGadgetGuy I'm finding in gaming test videos, the Dimensity 9400 seems to just overall match the performance of the 8 Elite. Considering MediaTek charges less for their chips, I think this is a huge win for them. I also hope Oppo and Vivo stick with the 9400 for their Ultra tier phones
It's brilliant to see how well MT has not only caught up, but found some signficant wins on their own terms. Now I just wish more TECHIES would care about this kinda stuff. I'm already getting the "duz it EVAN mattur???" replies on social media...
Find X8 Ultra will use 8 Elite, because it is better. Idk which 8 Elite phone Jaun is using but Oppo is the king of optimization in Android. Their 8 Elite ultra phone will 100% be better than X8 Pro with Mediatek
Oppo's tidal Architecture and Aurora engine make the software experience very smooth and optimized for apps. Same will be used with 8 Elite. If this 8 Elite phone was Realme or Xiaomi then it's expected that they are worse. Since they are not even close to how will Oppo is optimized. Will have to see when OnePlus 13 and X8 Ultra come out
@@SomeGadgetGuy Especially with Qualcomm raising prices up to 30%. I'm impressed with the video and photo processing of the 9400. I think Mediatek, Apple, and Snapdragon have now become competitive and the performance gap is super close to each other.
I'd prefer this MT chip inside a tablet, even better in a ChromeOS tablet, where I can use the Android CapCut in a big screen, while having a desktop worthy browser, and a desktop setup when connected to an external keyboard, mouse and monitor. Unfortunately no OEM makes such device. I really like the Lenovo Duet 3, which can do all the things I mentioned before. But the chip inside is really meh. If Lenovo upgrades Duet 3 with this Dimensity 9400, it would be easily a worthy laptop replacement.
How’s the cellular and Wi-Fi performance of the Mediatek chip vs the Qualcomm one? I’m asking because I’ve had terrible Wi-Fi chips from mediatek on laptops.
Mediatek in mobile genuinely seems to outpace my experiences with Samsung radios. I know a lot of folks have complained about MT in desktops, but often the radio isnt MY issue, but the antennas in less expensive machines. Recently AMD+MT mini PCs have been solid performers. Happily in phones, it seems these international phones are arriving with better band support for NA sub6 5G, and we're ALMOST to the place we were with "world phones" at the end of the LTE era.
Now THAT is impressive. Quick! Slam one o' those Mediatek Dimensity 9400s into one o' those wonderful mini PCs I'm always drooling over in your videos! It would be fun to race 'em against my M1 Mac Mini running Asahi Linux and my Raspberry Pi 5 running Ubuntu in terms of power consumption and current draw. Plus, if the motherboard manufacturers would cooperate, I'd bet it would be easier to install the ARM version of Linux on a Dimensity 9400 than it is to install it on my current Apple Silicon. It's something to look forward to in the future, at least.
@@jimcabezola3051 You make me dream. I saw an MS ad yesterday for a 22 hour laptop and thought, when will I get an Ubuntu laptop with 22 hours of battery life? It should be possible or not?
Ugh I know. Unfortunately Linux hardware is tied directly to the success of windows. If more premium ARM makes it out into the wild, then we can start moving the needle on Linux support for more cutting edge hardware.
@@sslaia Sadly, running Asahi Linux on my M1 Mac Mini generates MORE heat than when running macOS. I don't think reduced power consumption is a priority for that variant quite yet. This month, Apple claimed roughly 22 hours of battery power for their new M4-based MacBooks, so there's hope there.
@@jimcabezola3051 The other side of it is kudos to Asahi Linux developers, who reverse engineering things to write drivers for Linux! It should be the job of Chip manufacturers to provide those drivers.
It's pretty rare that one phone just completely tanks a test but another with the same chip excels. It has happened, but not often. The outlier might be Samsung with file compression. I've never been able to explain why the galaxy s is so much better at RAR than other phones with the same chip. We absolutely need to see what other devices can do with 8 elite, but by that same token, other phones with the Dimensity could also be faster than this Oppo.
Not great? Pixel 7 Pro can often slightly outpace Pixel 9 Pro XL in LumaFusion. Against the Dimensity, it's REALLY not close ua-cam.com/video/xzjpIKbrKiM/v-deo.htmlsi=OSXVUd4XrH4MwUiJ&t=255
I applaud Google's decision to keep their SOC under a specific price per unit, but increasingly that means Pixels will settle into a more mid-pack performance space. That's AWESOME for the A series, but it concerns me in the "pro" tier as the phones scale past $1000 MSRP. Pixel's now have three year old camera tech, the slowest charging, and mid-pack SOC performance with only "good" battery life. But the ultrasonic fingerprint is nice.
The Dimensity 9400 would've been the perfect SoC if its GPU had the same driver support Adreno has. Sadly for emulation Snapdragon chips still have much better support/performance.
Please compare with similiar phones when other 8 elites come out. Oppo x8 pro vs OnePlus 13 will be more reliable than this.since they have very similar software.
If I get enough requests for it, I'd consider it, but I genuinely don't use Apple at all. I'm not trying to be THAT reviewer who has a lot of thoughts about Android, but shows up to every event with an iPhone. I really try to show what I actually use.
It seems mediatek focused on real world improvements than pure geekbench scores. 8 elite might be hotter than tensor SoC. It seems oryon 3 might be released sooner to fend off nvidia mediatek entry into arms race with windows 11arm edition. If Microsoft swaps out Qualcomm for mediatek and nvidia combo for better gaming performance and AI
Its funny because the Adreno GPUs used on Qualcomm chips trace their roots back to AMD's Radeon GPU architectures of the past. IIRC they bought out the mobile division.
1. Who the heck is regularly editing video for publishing on a PHONE!? 2. how do you get high quality media from a camera into a phone? are there sd card readers for android phones now? even with a phone with lots of storage (like 256gb or whatever), that's still not a whole lot of storage for a bunch of hot-off-the-camera 4k footage... especially if you're importing longer video clips to cut for online publishing... this just isn't a workflow that i've seen in the wild. traditionally you dump your sd card to your editing PC's 1-2tb ssd, cut it with premiere or davinci resolve or the like, export, do a qc check, upload, and then archive the raw and edited clips, along with the editing files to your NAS where it then gets backed up to 2 secondary systems for long-term storage.
Do you want actual answers to those questions or are you just ranting because your favorite chip didn't win? I'm down to actually chat, or I can just mute you. Genuinely cant tell by your tone if youre really curious or just being confrontational. Up to you.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I'm sorry, I'm actually curious, I've never seen anyone use a phone for a high quality camera to publish workflow and it just boggles my mind.
No worries. Always happy to chat with someone who's really curious. First, I'm not making up that number. 36 million video go up to tiktok every day. Techies might not value that quantity, or call it "real editing", but look at the sophisticated tools built into a mobile app. "Regular" people are doing grading, splicing, timelapse, and chroma keying, even if they dont know the words for those edits. Increasingly, we're seeing editors like LumaFusion and Davinci Resolve leaned on harder for tablet use. Beyond that, EVERY major camera manufacturer has a companion app, and modern phones are easily able to plug in or use a card reader. Hook up a laptop hub to your phone, it'll blow your mind. So if you're a photo journalist, and you need to get data from a camera to an editor, why would you wait to use a laptop? Lastly, the global market does NOT reflect what tech reviewers focus on. In India, for example, phone penetration is around 700 Million users, while laptops hover around 200 million. More people in India use a phone as their only computer than the entire population of the united states. The next 500 million people to get online will be phone first or phone only. Tech reviewers ACT like everyone just uses $1000+ phones to do basic stuff, but that's not really reflective of actual market trends. In AndroidLand, Phones above $600 are likely around 10% of the market. That premium tech conversation just satisfies the bias of audiences who already own a phone+tablet+PC, or just want to watch videos about the luxury tech. Like cars, people love watching videos about hot sports cars, but I drive a nissan as a daily commuter.
@@SomeGadgetGuy huh, that's pretty cool. I totally realize that most phones are comfortably in the "under $500" price point and that things have certainly gotten better with mid/low end phones, I just didn't realize that they'd be up to cutting high bitrate 4k footage without issues. I thought that most of the editing for stuff like tiktok, youtube shorts, etc. was done on computers for the most part (or using cloud services in some cases (youtube has offered reasonable cloud-based trimming for a while for example). I wasn't aware that you could just plug in an sdcard reader and go on a phone, but i'm still a little stuck on storage and memory. I suppose if you keep your clips really short it could be alright... and also exporting... I didn't realize that there was software-accessable hardware-accelerated encode support for doing a video export on a modern phone. as far as camera companion apps, I thought they were just remote viewfinders and remote shutter release / record button. at least that's the case last time I tried them with my canon t6i or my lumix g85 that I typically use for run and gun stuff. editing on a phone seems so cramped though, especially for a standard 20 minute youtube video, and especially if you have lots of clips or any clean-up/effects to apply. I've been editing video on and off since freshman video production class in 1998, at first on a pro linear vhs double decker with a box that made edit decision list (EDLs), and then using media composer on nt 3.51 and imovie 1 on an imac DVSE, and pretty much all of the NLEs used similar ingest/storage workflows. I just hadn't considered that you could do anything like that on a phone. And if I were a photojournalist, I would use a laptop just to preview / qc the photo on something larger than my viewfinder. I don't think a phone would cut it being too small. (though a tablet would probably work), and I don't see how using a phone to send photos to an editor vs. using a laptop would really make any difference to the communications workflow. any time I've done a photo or video shoot, i've always got at least a basic laptop in my pack. I, too, drive a pretty basic subaru. you don't need a *lot* of computer to cut together video, I just didn't think that a phone would have the power to make it happen reasonably, and the tiny display, lack of keyboard and mouse make the interface seem cumbersome to me... but I'll see if i can grab a copy of capcut and give it a whirl.
Sure, and what youre describing is still a luxury in a lot of areas in the world. There's a LOT of news and reporting happening purely phone first, not because "it's cheap and people are poor" but because the phone is a discrete system, already has data connectivity, and gets better battery life in the field than most connected laptops. A lot of what you're describing is more a product of familiarity than actual practical workflow. If I took the tools you are familiar with, and switched your PC and editing software, you'd probably struggle to deliver the same quality at the same speed. Phone editing is no different. Once you get familiar with the tools, the process gets a lot faster. The rest is personal preference. I prefer NOT to carry a laptop or have to sit and edit from a tradeshow floor. I can shoot good video from a phone, drop each clip directly into a video editing timeline AS I'm shooting, and finish off a project faster than transferring data to a laptop, WHILE carrying a lot less weight. Even when I DO use footage from a mirrorless, I can render faster on a phone than I can on most laptops I would actually use on battery power. If I mimic the same project with edits as close as I can get down to individual frames, a punchy short project for social media will render twice as fast in lumafusion on an expensive phone than it will on $2000 laptop. I know a lot of techies shrug this idea off, but mostly it seems that's out of ignorance. In one reply on YT here, it seems you've been confronted with numerous ideas you've never considered. That's literally how over half a billion people use these devices and get incredible work done that you likely dont recognize came from phones. I'd chalk this up to "dont knock it til youve tried it", and you might be pleasantly surprised how far you can take a lot of these ideas.
Do you edit videos on your phone? Drop a comment with what app you use to edit!
And if you want more info on performance testing the new Dimensity 9400, I have a full write up here using REAL WORLD apps! www.patreon.com/posts/oppo-find-x8-pro-116415747
I've tried to edit a few videos for posting online from my phone. After trying a variety (it is surprisingly difficult to research decent apps that aren't targeted at tiktok or something), I had decided on capcut. It was surprisingly quick to render 8 to 30 minute videos on my snapdragon 835 phone. Lumafusion doesn't show up when I search it on the play store....
Am glad there are other companies now coming to the market pushing the limits
@ SomeGadgetGuy pls try 16 pro cap cut render speed vs 8elite and 9400
I mean... If someone wants to buy me an iPhone, sure I guess?
@@SomeGadgetGuy why did my comment disappear? I don't get it
I think maybe Qualcomm focused a little too much on Geekbench scores with the 8 Elite. I've seen enough videos that show off how "LOOK AT THE 10,000 MULTI SCORE ON THE 8 ELITE" while the Dimensity 9400 is slightly behind, but it seems the 9400 does better in real world tests.
I'm curious if the Find X8 Ultra is going to stick with the 9400 because I'm really tempted to get a MediaTek device this upcoming year.
That's kinda my findings too. The 8 Elite dominates the synthetic scores...
I bet the ultras will likely go with Qualcomm, but I hope some brands hold out and try the Dimensity if only to save a couple bucks on manufacturing costs.
@SomeGadgetGuy I'm finding in gaming test videos, the Dimensity 9400 seems to just overall match the performance of the 8 Elite. Considering MediaTek charges less for their chips, I think this is a huge win for them.
I also hope Oppo and Vivo stick with the 9400 for their Ultra tier phones
It's brilliant to see how well MT has not only caught up, but found some signficant wins on their own terms. Now I just wish more TECHIES would care about this kinda stuff. I'm already getting the "duz it EVAN mattur???" replies on social media...
Find X8 Ultra will use 8 Elite, because it is better. Idk which 8 Elite phone Jaun is using but Oppo is the king of optimization in Android. Their 8 Elite ultra phone will 100% be better than X8 Pro with Mediatek
Oppo's tidal Architecture and Aurora engine make the software experience very smooth and optimized for apps. Same will be used with 8 Elite. If this 8 Elite phone was Realme or Xiaomi then it's expected that they are worse. Since they are not even close to how will Oppo is optimized. Will have to see when OnePlus 13 and X8 Ultra come out
I would to like to see Asus and Redmagic use the 9400 on their phones with all the same passive and active cooling they put on 8 elite.
Sign me up. Red magic's fan strapped to a 9400 would be really fun...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Especially with Qualcomm raising prices up to 30%. I'm impressed with the video and photo processing of the 9400. I think Mediatek, Apple, and Snapdragon have now become competitive and the performance gap is super close to each other.
I'm still wondering why ASUS still doesn't make a successor to the ROG Phone 6D.
Just imagine MediaTek made a Windows/ChromeOS ARM desktop SoC using the Dimensity 9400 as the base. That would be wild!
It was what I was hoping to get out of Dr Finbarr. Just put active cooling on a 9400 and we could have a solid Core i3-i5 competitor...
they gotta then go open source. They haven't done it yet.
That was a quick chat, but definitely an amazing one
I didnt think I needed to make a LONG video when the performance is so fast right?
I'd prefer this MT chip inside a tablet, even better in a ChromeOS tablet, where I can use the Android CapCut in a big screen, while having a desktop worthy browser, and a desktop setup when connected to an external keyboard, mouse and monitor. Unfortunately no OEM makes such device. I really like the Lenovo Duet 3, which can do all the things I mentioned before. But the chip inside is really meh. If Lenovo upgrades Duet 3 with this Dimensity 9400, it would be easily a worthy laptop replacement.
It just launched. We might see Samsung use MT again in Galaxy tab 🤞
How’s the cellular and Wi-Fi performance of the Mediatek chip vs the Qualcomm one?
I’m asking because I’ve had terrible Wi-Fi chips from mediatek on laptops.
Mediatek in mobile genuinely seems to outpace my experiences with Samsung radios. I know a lot of folks have complained about MT in desktops, but often the radio isnt MY issue, but the antennas in less expensive machines. Recently AMD+MT mini PCs have been solid performers.
Happily in phones, it seems these international phones are arriving with better band support for NA sub6 5G, and we're ALMOST to the place we were with "world phones" at the end of the LTE era.
Now THAT is impressive.
Quick! Slam one o' those Mediatek Dimensity 9400s into one o' those wonderful mini PCs I'm always drooling over in your videos! It would be fun to race 'em against my M1 Mac Mini running Asahi Linux and my Raspberry Pi 5 running Ubuntu in terms of power consumption and current draw.
Plus, if the motherboard manufacturers would cooperate, I'd bet it would be easier to install the ARM version of Linux on a Dimensity 9400 than it is to install it on my current Apple Silicon.
It's something to look forward to in the future, at least.
A Dimensity 9400 with active cooling would be pretty tasty...
@@jimcabezola3051 You make me dream. I saw an MS ad yesterday for a 22 hour laptop and thought, when will I get an Ubuntu laptop with 22 hours of battery life? It should be possible or not?
Ugh I know. Unfortunately Linux hardware is tied directly to the success of windows. If more premium ARM makes it out into the wild, then we can start moving the needle on Linux support for more cutting edge hardware.
@@sslaia Sadly, running Asahi Linux on my M1 Mac Mini generates MORE heat than when running macOS. I don't think reduced power consumption is a priority for that variant quite yet.
This month, Apple claimed roughly 22 hours of battery power for their new M4-based MacBooks, so there's hope there.
@@jimcabezola3051 The other side of it is kudos to Asahi Linux developers, who reverse engineering things to write drivers for Linux! It should be the job of Chip manufacturers to provide those drivers.
We need to wait for other phones with the SD8 Elite to confirm your findings.
It's pretty rare that one phone just completely tanks a test but another with the same chip excels. It has happened, but not often.
The outlier might be Samsung with file compression. I've never been able to explain why the galaxy s is so much better at RAR than other phones with the same chip.
We absolutely need to see what other devices can do with 8 elite, but by that same token, other phones with the Dimensity could also be faster than this Oppo.
My man!
Where does the tensor g4 land?
Not great? Pixel 7 Pro can often slightly outpace Pixel 9 Pro XL in LumaFusion. Against the Dimensity, it's REALLY not close ua-cam.com/video/xzjpIKbrKiM/v-deo.htmlsi=OSXVUd4XrH4MwUiJ&t=255
It lands approximately in the middle of... hell 😂😂😂
Lmao, G4 is a midrange chip
I applaud Google's decision to keep their SOC under a specific price per unit, but increasingly that means Pixels will settle into a more mid-pack performance space. That's AWESOME for the A series, but it concerns me in the "pro" tier as the phones scale past $1000 MSRP.
Pixel's now have three year old camera tech, the slowest charging, and mid-pack SOC performance with only "good" battery life.
But the ultrasonic fingerprint is nice.
The Dimensity 9400 would've been the perfect SoC if its GPU had the same driver support Adreno has. Sadly for emulation Snapdragon chips still have much better support/performance.
Please compare with similiar phones when other 8 elites come out.
Oppo x8 pro vs OnePlus 13 will be more reliable than this.since they have very similar software.
Stay tuned. 😊
I love your videos,l and comparisons like these, can you to do the same with apple 16 pro with a18 pro chip.
If I get enough requests for it, I'd consider it, but I genuinely don't use Apple at all.
I'm not trying to be THAT reviewer who has a lot of thoughts about Android, but shows up to every event with an iPhone. I really try to show what I actually use.
🤔 Is it using a CPU or GPU ?
It seems mediatek focused on real world improvements than pure geekbench scores. 8 elite might be hotter than tensor SoC.
It seems oryon 3 might be released sooner to fend off nvidia mediatek entry into arms race with windows 11arm edition. If Microsoft swaps out Qualcomm for mediatek and nvidia combo for better gaming performance and AI
I really hope we see MediaTek in this scene early next year.
@SomeGadgetGuy yep. Competition brings better power efficiency and performance otherwise we will be stuck with the Intel skylake + series.
I wonder what's that secret phone? Is it available in China market?
Stay tuned 😊
@@wilsongao6789 May I guess? It's from one of the Oppo's sisters phone companies.
😊
8 elite = intel
dimensity = amd
lol
I know I'm old, but yeah this feels a bit like the classic AMD athlon days.
@SomeGadgetGuy I agree! you're not alone lol.
Its funny because the Adreno GPUs used on Qualcomm chips trace their roots back to AMD's Radeon GPU architectures of the past. IIRC they bought out the mobile division.
@@rdmz135 I'm just talking about in terms of performance and popularity. 😁
I use it on my android phone and on my windows PC.
I do like some of the automation tools, but I'm stuck in my ways with LumaFusion and Resolve 😁
1. Who the heck is regularly editing video for publishing on a PHONE!? 2. how do you get high quality media from a camera into a phone? are there sd card readers for android phones now? even with a phone with lots of storage (like 256gb or whatever), that's still not a whole lot of storage for a bunch of hot-off-the-camera 4k footage... especially if you're importing longer video clips to cut for online publishing... this just isn't a workflow that i've seen in the wild. traditionally you dump your sd card to your editing PC's 1-2tb ssd, cut it with premiere or davinci resolve or the like, export, do a qc check, upload, and then archive the raw and edited clips, along with the editing files to your NAS where it then gets backed up to 2 secondary systems for long-term storage.
Do you want actual answers to those questions or are you just ranting because your favorite chip didn't win? I'm down to actually chat, or I can just mute you. Genuinely cant tell by your tone if youre really curious or just being confrontational. Up to you.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I'm sorry, I'm actually curious, I've never seen anyone use a phone for a high quality camera to publish workflow and it just boggles my mind.
No worries. Always happy to chat with someone who's really curious.
First, I'm not making up that number. 36 million video go up to tiktok every day. Techies might not value that quantity, or call it "real editing", but look at the sophisticated tools built into a mobile app. "Regular" people are doing grading, splicing, timelapse, and chroma keying, even if they dont know the words for those edits.
Increasingly, we're seeing editors like LumaFusion and Davinci Resolve leaned on harder for tablet use.
Beyond that, EVERY major camera manufacturer has a companion app, and modern phones are easily able to plug in or use a card reader. Hook up a laptop hub to your phone, it'll blow your mind.
So if you're a photo journalist, and you need to get data from a camera to an editor, why would you wait to use a laptop?
Lastly, the global market does NOT reflect what tech reviewers focus on. In India, for example, phone penetration is around 700 Million users, while laptops hover around 200 million. More people in India use a phone as their only computer than the entire population of the united states. The next 500 million people to get online will be phone first or phone only.
Tech reviewers ACT like everyone just uses $1000+ phones to do basic stuff, but that's not really reflective of actual market trends. In AndroidLand, Phones above $600 are likely around 10% of the market.
That premium tech conversation just satisfies the bias of audiences who already own a phone+tablet+PC, or just want to watch videos about the luxury tech. Like cars, people love watching videos about hot sports cars, but I drive a nissan as a daily commuter.
@@SomeGadgetGuy huh, that's pretty cool. I totally realize that most phones are comfortably in the "under $500" price point and that things have certainly gotten better with mid/low end phones, I just didn't realize that they'd be up to cutting high bitrate 4k footage without issues. I thought that most of the editing for stuff like tiktok, youtube shorts, etc. was done on computers for the most part (or using cloud services in some cases (youtube has offered reasonable cloud-based trimming for a while for example). I wasn't aware that you could just plug in an sdcard reader and go on a phone, but i'm still a little stuck on storage and memory. I suppose if you keep your clips really short it could be alright... and also exporting... I didn't realize that there was software-accessable hardware-accelerated encode support for doing a video export on a modern phone.
as far as camera companion apps, I thought they were just remote viewfinders and remote shutter release / record button. at least that's the case last time I tried them with my canon t6i or my lumix g85 that I typically use for run and gun stuff.
editing on a phone seems so cramped though, especially for a standard 20 minute youtube video, and especially if you have lots of clips or any clean-up/effects to apply.
I've been editing video on and off since freshman video production class in 1998, at first on a pro linear vhs double decker with a box that made edit decision list (EDLs), and then using media composer on nt 3.51 and imovie 1 on an imac DVSE, and pretty much all of the NLEs used similar ingest/storage workflows. I just hadn't considered that you could do anything like that on a phone.
And if I were a photojournalist, I would use a laptop just to preview / qc the photo on something larger than my viewfinder. I don't think a phone would cut it being too small. (though a tablet would probably work), and I don't see how using a phone to send photos to an editor vs. using a laptop would really make any difference to the communications workflow. any time I've done a photo or video shoot, i've always got at least a basic laptop in my pack.
I, too, drive a pretty basic subaru. you don't need a *lot* of computer to cut together video, I just didn't think that a phone would have the power to make it happen reasonably, and the tiny display, lack of keyboard and mouse make the interface seem cumbersome to me... but I'll see if i can grab a copy of capcut and give it a whirl.
Sure, and what youre describing is still a luxury in a lot of areas in the world. There's a LOT of news and reporting happening purely phone first, not because "it's cheap and people are poor" but because the phone is a discrete system, already has data connectivity, and gets better battery life in the field than most connected laptops.
A lot of what you're describing is more a product of familiarity than actual practical workflow. If I took the tools you are familiar with, and switched your PC and editing software, you'd probably struggle to deliver the same quality at the same speed. Phone editing is no different. Once you get familiar with the tools, the process gets a lot faster.
The rest is personal preference. I prefer NOT to carry a laptop or have to sit and edit from a tradeshow floor. I can shoot good video from a phone, drop each clip directly into a video editing timeline AS I'm shooting, and finish off a project faster than transferring data to a laptop, WHILE carrying a lot less weight. Even when I DO use footage from a mirrorless, I can render faster on a phone than I can on most laptops I would actually use on battery power.
If I mimic the same project with edits as close as I can get down to individual frames, a punchy short project for social media will render twice as fast in lumafusion on an expensive phone than it will on $2000 laptop.
I know a lot of techies shrug this idea off, but mostly it seems that's out of ignorance. In one reply on YT here, it seems you've been confronted with numerous ideas you've never considered. That's literally how over half a billion people use these devices and get incredible work done that you likely dont recognize came from phones.
I'd chalk this up to "dont knock it til youve tried it", and you might be pleasantly surprised how far you can take a lot of these ideas.
First