How To Debate Satan Worshiping Atheists | Talk Heathen: Throwback
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The only thing worse than having an imaginary friend is having an imaginary enemy
I'm just waiting for the magical downstairs fire-father to send himself to sacrifice himself for a bunch of people who didn't need it until he showed up anyway.
@@jLorraineK or see him laugh when the cloud daddy turns up after he realises he is the evil one
@@graemerose1616 izn't gawd actually EVIL then Satan
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Remind them that Satan is a mythical christian. character and therefore also doesn’t exist.
But miss out on a fandango with Beelzebub?
I'm playing the devil's advocate here. Even if there is such a thing as "Satan", he didn't create the world, destroy it and sacrifice "his only begotten son" because he "so loved the world".
@@OswaldBatesIIIEsq
Jesus was only dead for a day and a half.
And apparently he still got to be god.
Sounds like the equivalent of a hangnail for a god.
@@OswaldBatesIIIEsq Yep, the good guy of the story
@@OswaldBatesIIIEsqHow can you be your own son though? And if you aren’t dying it’s a kind of cos-play/larping pretend sacrifice of yourself to yourself isn’t it? Why not love and forgive UNconditionally?
If we don't believe in god, how do people always assume we believe in satan? 🤦 It's perplexing.
Because they think you believe in god but hate him, and just say you don't believe in god. Because to them, a lack of belief in god is absurd, because "of course god exists."
@@lazerpants9026 That doesn't make it any less frustrating.
@@Alltime2050 Oh I know, it's infuriating. It's a literal lack of empathy on their part. They can only view us through the lense of their own bias, not understanding what that bias is or what bias even is. It's almost like unintentional gaslighting.
@@lazerpants9026 Dishonesty is so integral to maintaining their worldview that many superstitious people actually seek out the biggest and most obvious liars they can find to lead them. That's just one of the reasons I have no more sympathy left for them.
It doesn't matter if they know they are using dishonest arguments or outright lying or not. The outcome is the same.
If you want a real belly-laugh, listen to a Christian describe what it means to be an Atheist. Hilarious! In second place, listen to a Theist’s understanding of science.
Christians say that Atheists worship the devil. Hahaha! LOL. God, Jesus, and Satan are all parts of the same mythology. Why would I reject part of it and embrace another part? How stupid are you people? Worship? What the hell is that?
4:40 was a quote from The Usual Suspects 90s action flick . Kevin Spacey said it to Chazz Palminteri
Is that Anthony magnabosco(sp?) From that other cool channel that helps people question things? Hes cool
It took me 5 minutes to figure out where I'd heard Anthony's voice before...Street Epistemology. Such a unique voice
That was a great conversation/answer.
tbh tho, i am often tempted to defend Satan (the serpent anyways, who didn't lie at all) and go as far as saying according to some agnostic gospels the serpent was actually Jebus, who was NOT the son of the old testament maniac gawd (source: gospel of Judas). probably a wrong strategy, but nevertheless pretty fun!
I never knew we worshipped ANYthing, much less Satan.
My gramma was very wise and said not to attempt mental battle with the unarmed.
Well, thinking you're influenced by Satan is how theists commonly explain why atheists are atheists. Some may just fall back on that if you "struck a nerve", but many sincerely think that's the reason, and that pointing that out is the best way to convince an atheist.
Taking a break helps with the former problem, but it does nothing about the latter problem. For the latter problem, I'd suggest trying to get them to take a step back, and see that this would not be true if Satan does not exist (or just dig into why they believe that). And certainly it's good to draw attention to the fact that it's good to ask questions, and you should be extra skeptical when someone tells you you shouldn't.
The serpent did not "tempt" Eve, he just corrected God's lie.
Saying "i am not a devil" is what the devil would say, but it is also what EVERYONE ELSE would say, when accused of being a devil. In other words, i think it is not suspicious at all. I would even argue that NOT denying that you are devil is even more suspicious, because it is devilishly dishonest to change the subject like that and avoiding to answer directly.
(Third option is to sarcasticaly admit "Yes, i obviously am the devil, how smart of you to figure it out and tell me that fact.". But isnt sarcasm also a bit devilish? And wouldnt they view it as you sincerely admitting who you are because of being so proud/prideful to brag about yourself? They probably would... so that is not a good option.)
I hate the idea of a Satan. It's infantilizing towards our choices as cognizant beings.
They use Satan in the inverse way they use God. If it's good, it's god, if it's bad it's satan. Christians hate the word "accountability" and would rather blame the otherwordly shadow people instead of admitting why they embezzle church donations
I understand that Satan only made an appearance in the new testament. In the old testament he was simply called Stan.
You don't.
Satan is a function of theism. If you are a satanist you are not an atheist you are following a theistic alternative and are a theist who favours Satan over god.
Seriously, you can't comprehend no gods = no Satan?
Sadly enough they'll be totally unable of even understanding what or something that they're thinking that they're knowing but being totally clueless most of the times.
Repent of your sins, believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life............
Luke 24:47 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:3 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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Stop being irrational. We already proved how irrational you are on other atheist channels. You keep saying the same bs.
Stop being irrational. We already proved how irrational you are on another atheist channel and probably on other channels too.
What is your point? Quoting things from a ridiculous book isn't going to help.
Do you want to hear yourself speak or actually convince us that God exists?
If it's the latter give us a call, live every Sunday at 1pm central.
If it's the former please feel free to continue preaching to five people in the comment section