Caller: "Gravity Does Not Exist"
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2023
- Chuck in HI claims that whatever holds the universe together is scientific proof of god, and there is no such thing as gravity.
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“Science is stupid!” He shouts into his mobile phone that sends that signal to an orbiting satellite, that then sends it to youtube and all our devices so we can enjoy what a silly, goose Chuck is.
Thanks for stealing my thoughts!
Mobile phones don't use satellites for communication. They contact a cell tower and the signal goes off from there on cables to the receiving cell tower. GPS uses satellites.
@@davidsmith7653 I wasn’t aiming for accuracy - but Starlink might say otherwise in terms of satellite communications, it is the future.
To be fair. Almost no. Mobile phones uses satellites. But your point is valid.
Chucks entire argument is, much like flat earthers by the way:
"I don't understand, therefore God"
He should not have mentioned any scientific evidence of God because he literally debunks that by loudly not understanding the concepts of science.
silly goose is an interesting way to spell dumfuk
“Science is stupid!”
Says the guy using a telephone to call into an internet call-in show from half a world away in real-time.
The cognitive dissonance is real man.
There are a few milliseconds of delay at least. DEBUNKED god iz real
its not half a world away, but point stands.
You are wasting your time, all the man's brain cells are totally overwhelmed by the utter garbage he believes!
there's more evidence for the phone's existence than any "evidence" presented by ALL the religions that ever existed.
As a representative, local person, born and raised in Hawai'i, we do not claim the caller.
Well then how are we supposed to return to sender?!
Haha, I say the same thing when ever there’s a crazy Canadian caller. It’s all good my Hawaiian friend.
Cheers🍻
this is the guy who had called for years saying that the sun can't work because the energy would be "used up" by now. with no math around it and disregarding the math that does exist
He is also not representative of all Chucks.
I sometimes don't like to hear Australian callers talking nonsense, but accept that nonsense talkers are everywhere and don't represent the views of all their compatriots.
No pronouns… *first clue.*
Immediately giggles like a Batman villain… *second clue.*
Begins dismissing science the way most people dismiss magic… *third clue.*
Then, basically, states, “I don’t understand things, therefore God exists…” *aanndd there it is.*
Why is "no pronouns" a clue? A clue to what, precisely?
(I'd question that giggling like a Batman villain is a clue to anything too, but one at a time)
@@dlevi67It’s a clue that they’re spitting the dummy about pronouns, which is something only idiots and placard-waving Evangelicals do.
@@dlevi67 It's a red flag the same way someone being like "you don't believe vaccines actually work, right?" is one.
@@cy-one Is it? Because I don't care to specify which pronouns I prefer, but I am neither a flat earther nor a denier of gravity or of science tout-court.
I suspect a majority of people in the world fall into the same category, since all the hullaballoo with pronouns is largely limited to English (not least because English is one of the least-gendered-but-still-with-gender languages there is), and (fortunately) flat-earth and gravity/science denialism are minority views.
@@dlevi67 There's a difference between "not caring to specify" actively and denying to engage at the same level as the people you're engaging with.
Nobody is asking you to go around and scream "'I'm a vegetarian!" But it's kinda unsocial to be like "not your business!" when someone asks you in a context where it's normal to ask and tell if you're a vegetarian or not and you have inserted yourself willingly into that context.
Caller: gravity’s not real
Me: *spontaneously starts floating *
🤣😂🤣
Chuck has called the various shows before. He is incoherent and doesn’t seem likely to ever BECOME coherent on the topics he chooses. Willfully ignorant is a great descriptor for him.
Maybe he's lonely and just wants to talk to someone, poor guy.
@@MrCanis4 and maybe his unflappable worldview is the reason he is lonely. The vicious cycle of being a science denying theist.
He’s developmentally challenged.
"There''s nothing there!"
Ooooh, the fucking irony.
The only thing this call shows is that religion rots the human mind.
Or that already rotten minds find sense in religion
In some most cases yes, agree,. Though I argue this was a religious flat Earther. As science is not a problem in Buddhism or catholicism
When I was trying to kick heroin I was in a methadone clinic. Methadone is called "liquid handcuffs" because if you don't have it you get sick. I see religion the same way. Religion is Prison for your mind and spirit and a weapon in the hands of oppressors
The only thing your comment shows is ignorance.
Catholicism has some of the greatest scientists and observatories in the history of the world.
Louis Pasteur, Marconi, Lamaitre, Ampere (yes the unit of electric current) and many more. Then there's the ancient Arabic world of science from Muslims too.
Your ignorance is astounding.
Funny how he doesn't question how he can breathe when he can't see air, but he'll make a fuss because we can't see gravity.
Or have a telephone call using technology while simultaneously saying he doesn't believe in science.
Sure we can't see gravity but he sure could feel it if someone dropped a piano out of a window.
Blind people can't see anything, absolut nothing confirmed!
checkmate, atheists!
You can't "see" heat either... Let's set him up a lawn chair over top of a bonfire! See how long he sits there! 😂
@@tHEHEAd1138 He can't see my right hook let's get him in the ring, kidding ofc I'm very very kind
I absolutely love people who instantly dimiss their own evidence, like saying their evidence is scientific, but follow that up with "science is totally wrong btw". Cool, you literally debunked your evidence's validity before you even got to it.
Shhhh, you can't use logic either.
It’s almost like as if the pursuit of truth isn’t their priority, or something🤔
I'm pretty sure Chuck doesn't exist.
The explanation of gravity and the Higgs boson/field should have been avoided, IMHO. First, this caller doesn't even have knowledge of basic physics and the response needs to start there. Secondly, and perhaps much more importantly, the wandering, confused and at times grossly incorrect information Secular Rarity gives is a credibility assassin. Atoms are composed of quarks and electrons, not Higgs bosons. The explanation confused parts of the standard model and quantum mechanics and substituted them for Relativity. This is starting an explanation of evolution by mixing up organic chemistry and biochemistry, which will yield a win for a fundamentalist, not ideal.
@@warpdriveby SR and the other had made it clear from the get go that they aren't physicists and was explaining it in laymans terms that an average person can understand compared. Especially to someone that seems to be pathetically hostile to empirical evidence and wants to live in their own fantasy and expects everyone to accept it.
There's nothing to wrong with explaining it as best you can as long as you have evidence to back it up when you have a total moron trying vomit out his insane fantasy literally based on nothing.
I'll take the actually educated person over the caller's bottomless ignorance any day even if it's not their strongest subject.
This is a classic AXP caller. There have been a lot of old callers popping up. This is one of those guys where it's just pointless to talk to. Not even to mock and make an example of them. He is the epitome of the "playing chess with a pigeon" quote.
yep, and uses a dice for which move he will make.
@@MrCanis4 A result of 1-6 means shitting the board and flying away.
@@cy-one Lol "gravity doesn't exist!! Science sucks!!!"
:smashes chess board and pieces and defacates on the rubble left behind:
You can't have reasonable conversations with people like this. It's the same as the other callers like Rick and "cosmology of David" David.... Reality itself means nothing to them. You could take a flat earther into space and around the galaxy and they would claim you drugged them and put them into a computer simulation. When you hit a point where facts mean nothing, I don't know what to say to them other than laugh in their face.
It's impressive how from the first sentence this guy manages to get every single thing wrong...
The caller got one thing correct, nothing exists in his head.
You would think that just by coincidence he would have gotten at least one thing correct.
You know you're in trouble when the caller starts out with a nervous chuckle or laughter.
"I am happy to accept the benefits of science as and when it suits me, including using an electronic device to get messages spread throughout the internet, but science is a load of rubbish. There's nothing there" . A fair summary of the caller's views ?
Oh and therefore God exists !
"I'm not smart enough to wrap my brain around this subject, so it must be this mystical thing"
He said that atoms can't be split. I REALLY wanted to hear his explanation for atomic bombs and what he thought happened to Hiroshima.
Chuck: "I have scientific evidence for god". Also Chuck :"Science is stupid!"....
Caller: Gravity doesn't exist.
Me: oh so your a flat earther.
There ignorant bibles talks about the earth have 4 corners, so because some idiot said that over 2000 yrs ago, all the gullible theists believe it.
The Venn diagram of flat-earthers and creationists is almost a circle
Dear Chuck,
We the free thinking human delegation do here solemnly declare that we hereby decree that we don't give a flying "Chuck" what you do or don't believe in.
As soon as you started talking about the Higgs field, I think his brain melted a bit.
Can you imagine the drool slowly dripping from the guy's chin, both of his eyes stare into different directions, meanwhile pressing the phone to the side of his head as if to keep it's content in?
Chuck is a great example of how ignorance breeds delusion. "I don't know therefore god"
@@blankvision2771 I know that my parents made me. No gods needed or shown to be involved whatsoever. 😊
"Gravity doesnt exist!" Thats why Chuck has to wear massively heavy lead boots to keep himself grounded on the planet.
How would those help, without gravity? I suspect his bone density is enough anyway
Is lead exempt from lack of gravity, some natural form of "Super Glue" for lead?
Suction cups don’t require gravity
@@kellydalstok8900 But they require air pressure acting on them (vacuum does not suck, it's the air pressure around pushing), which requires... gravity.
@@dlevi67 mostly cranial bone density...
Chuck is a classic case of, "I don't understand it so it doesn't exist!"
I wonder if he'll change his mind about gravity existing when he gets thrown from the Burj Khalifa
Probably you'd just hear "ITS JUST DENSITY AND BUOYANCY!" followed by a dull thud.
@@HellbellyUK 🤣
skipping secondary education has detrimental consequences.
These shorter videos are doing really well. Keep up the good work.
Not sure the caller was worth even that much time
I wonder how much was cut out
@@dramklukkel You can watch the full video.
@@CycocelVocalist yeah lets watch the whole video...
Gravity: “There’s nothing there! How can that be real?!” Poor old Chuck will have an aneurysm when some shows him a pair of magnets.
You can't see sound so obviously talking can't exist.
When I think about the universe, I am always amazed by the beautifully complex simplicity that is the interactions of the 4 fundamental forces.
Gravity doesn't exist? That's cool. Now I guess I can jump off a cliff just to see myself suspended in mid-air.
Wile E Coyote often managed it. For a few seconds, at least. Maybe he's god??
You'll only fall if you look down. Don't look down!! Also, Doug Adams revealed the secret behind flying - you basically aim for the ground and keep missing it.
@@kdhavle better keep your clothes on in case of passing planes
Wait hang on, if Gravity doesn't exist, how come I sometimes fall?
Cut back on your binge drinking 🤣
@@billmcavoy5056 Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrnn
Obviously god pushes you down with his thumb. Malicious guy this god fellow, doesn't care if you get hurt due to his actions.
@@artistjoh That's why you get more and more wrinkles over time on your forehead. That's god's fingerprint. Get's deeper little by little.
Chuck Sounds like his education began and ended with Sesame Street. Comfortably clueless.
Back in the day (The sixties, Man) I had an RE teacher who once told us that the great thing about the Christian Faith was that you didn't need to be educated or especially wise to get it.
I think this demonstrates the downside of that proposition.
if you look at the universe, the earth and the sun, in reality it doesn’t work…says Chuck with minimal intelligence, minimal education, minimal ability to think logically. Why is it that those, who know next to nothing, are so confident in their assertions?
it's called Dunning-Kruger. ;-)
@@irrelevant_noob I know what it’s called but it doesn’t explain the why.
@@jpbaley2016 because they don't understand how much there is to know about the topic... and they think their understanding is "obviously" enough to put together the opinion(s) that they have, maybe?
Creation Order : NOT Science
Dirt into Adam: NOT Science.
Rib into Eve: NOT Science
Global Flood: NOT Science
Noah's Ark: NOT Science
This is just the FIRST chapter.
LOL
"And all that stuff" was the cue for me to so unfairly dismiss this fool.
I have lost a few golf balls, and just conclude that they are still flying in space.
Many of mine are still swimming in that damn pond.
Dunning-Kruger has struck Hawaii. Such willing ignorance and glaring arrogance too.
In the caller’s defense, I think he was confusing string theory with the string attached to the tin cans that he was calling with 🤦🏻♂️
GOOD ONE1
"I don't understand science, therefor science is wrong." Right.
Science doesn't exist because I don't understand it... amazing.
@@blankvision2771 🤮🤮🤮
"I've got scientific evidence!"
"What is it?"
"Science is stupid and isn't real!"
Brilliant. Has there ever been a caller who WASN'T a complete buffoon?
WE NEED MORE CALLERS LIKE THIS!
I just have to say as someone with a physics degree, your explanation of gravity hurt me deeply :)
Heeyyyyy,
Wolf pack in the wild
Have to agree that his explanation of gravity was rather painful.
"Gods' way easier than Science...no need to Know all that stuff...just believe." says the preachers/teachers to the children...still.
Man, you guys are patent and polite.
Does he also deny Magnetism and electricity because he can't see them.
$50 says that this guy owns a tee-shirt with a big letter Q on it. Any takers???
Still waiting for a flat earther to explain why things fall in a vacuum.
They don't believe in the vacuum of space, either.
@@alexkilgour1328 i buy a lotto ticket week hoping to win and pay to ship every flat Earthers to the ISS. And if they don't acknowledge the curve of the earth from the ISS. I will push them out of the air lock.
Sky crime can't be controlled by regular ground laws.
It’s a near vacuum.
@@ericwilliams1659if you win I’ll pretend to be a flerf just so you can send me and I’ll record their faces for you 😅
Or why things fall in a normal atmosphere, even. They at least get that air is not at all dense enough to displace almost all things, but they can't explain why things don't fall upwards where air is the least dense.
"science is stupid" UNTIL he has a heart attack and NEEDS that science to save his life......
Ah! This is the same guy that said this to Forrest Valkai on a different call in show. Gravity isn't real. Why fight against the grain on this issue? lol
Chuck reminds me of why education is so important. Clearly, he avoided science classes at all costs. This is why we can't have nice things.
"Scientific arguments are stupid!"
"I have a scientific argument for God!"
What are we supposed to conclude from that?
I weep for our education system.
Children shouldn't be allowed to sleep or skip science classes. Look at what happened to this caller! Tsk tsk...
When people ask me if I believe in god, I always tell them, "Not yet."
I always tell them "not any more".
With his nervous laughter, Chuck sounds like Kip from Futurama.
So that was a religi-flerf.
How classic, it explains this call
Whoa, he just doubled down on his bullschmitt by calling Forrest Valkai and expecting to make his point. Looks like he's in need of a wellness check...
Chuck is short for Chuckles
This guy called in to irritate Matt several years ago. His argument has not changed one iota in that time.
I got scientific proof, but it's MY science. Sounds like any conspiracy cook book
We see the physical effects of gravity, can anyone show the physical effects of a god.
Why, yes! Just look around-- nature, trees, rainbows, a newborn's smile (sarcasm in case that's not clear).
@@davidcattin7006 raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
I hope the caller proves it with a leap of faith.
A more effective way to understand gravitational pull is to think of a sheet of fabric pulled out straight. This fabric ridiculously durable and pulled tought so most things you place on it like smoe dirt or sand or maybe some small pebbles only change its shape such a small and insignificant amount with even heavier stuff like a BIG rock or maybe a golf ball sized bit of lead are gonna make that shape change a lot more noticabley.
Even this very common representation is still not perfect as this happens in a full 360 hut its good enough to get the idea
*taut *noticeably
heh heh It 's Chuck from Hawaii -- In other AXP calls, he says the sun is literally on fire (that's fire as in combustion not fire as in nuclear fusion).
Well, it's hot... like fire, so clearly that MUST mean that's what's going on!! (/s)
I recognized Chuck he's called The Atheist Experience several years ago (alot). And has a Sinister laugh
What a joker.
Literally. This has to be a joke or leg pull.
Wait til he finds out we can actually measure Gravity waves...
When someone says "gravity doesn't exist," how to you really respond to that other than to eye-roll?
Push them off the roof. And when some guy says "whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger", kick him in the nuts and say you are making him stronger and he is welcome.
My personal favorite retort to "gravity isn't real" is why everything falls down, then. Everything falls toward the earth, specifically toward the center of the earth, on earth. Going into the discussions of quantum and sub-atomic physics with people that can't even conceive of why THAT simple experience does what is does is like trying to teach algebra to a goose.
Wait , this caller doesn't understand why atoms bond with each other?
There are no atoms. Everything is made of water.
Do you?
I'm sure you know the sounds and spellings of the concepts related to atoms, but do you UNDERSTAND why or how atoms bond with each other?
@@ExistenceUniversity sorry, I am at work. I don't want to get high with you and speculate "man, what if......"
@@ExistenceUniversity
Maybe you would like to educate us.
@@ExistenceUniversity Do you UNDERSTAND how words work? I'm sure you know the sounds and spellings of the concepts related to words, but HOW do they work with each other?
None given sounded confused.
Yes she does
5:20 Literally 100% incorrect.
A boson is an energy carrier, not the building blocks of matter, just like light.
well it's not "100%" incorrect. The name of that particle is lacking any typoes. ;-)
@@blankvision2771 No. You are just insane
At least two big fallacies in just the first 45 seconds.... 1) "Basically you have just two choices..." Nope. False dichotomy; 2) "Science says there is no god..." Science makes no proclamations whatsoever on the existence or non-existence of a god.
And it just goes downhill from there.
Gravity and magnetism have to be the most interesting fascinating subjects.
If a flearther claims "not gravity, but density" ask him how an object you release in mid-air knows where "down" is. Because the density of the air around the object is the same, so an object denser than air (you may take a flearhter, but be aware, he or she will be denser than a neutron star) could fly off in any direction.
It gets even better: some of the flearthers accept that the atmosphere has a pressure gradient. That means the air above the object is slightly less dense than the air below. So the object must fly upwards?!?
Some flearthers, probably the gurus, so mostly non-flearthers, but simple conmans, are now talking about energy. And what they say sounds an awful lot like potential energy...
Why people keep thinking that science wants to disprove gods? Following the evidence is what leads you to answers, not the other way around.
If scientific evidence leads to a god, would people refute science?
They think that science is out to attack their belief system because science has incidentally demolished a lot of said belief system. It wasn't like anyone set out to disprove a lot of the creation stories. But we made discoveries that were mutually exclusive with even the possibility of some of those stories. We know humans evolved from non-human ancestors. We know there was no global flood. And we know the planet is billions of years old. None of those discoveries were made by anyone with a vendetta against Christianity. Christian folklore just falls apart upon close inspection. That has nothing to do with science. That which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise.
Why is it that everyone that attacks science knows nothing about it or how it’s actually used?
The relationship works the other way: they don’t understand so they attack.
I believe Chuck is an arkansas legislature.
My main concern is the the depleting supply of gravity.
Gravity is a scarce and vital resource and the government should advise consumers to use as little of it as possible
You can do your part to help save gravity in places where it's most used which is near the ground.
Simply stay off the ground as much as possible.
Preferably up mountains or in airplanes but generally stay on upper floors, tops of double decked buses and always use the upstairs lavatory.
Good one 😂
"Science is stupid"
- He says on a telephone...
He isn't using a phone. Don't you know that you don't need a phone if you are calling from a black hole?
“String theory.” 🤔
Big problem getting science classes from religion
Jesus is NOT sending his best and brightest to call the show.
.
LOL
Chuck is the best and brightest.
Well, Jesus is probably just as stupid as his old man.
@@jpbaley2016 Touche.
"God works in mysterious ways."
@@Gandhi_Physique I doubt god works at all. That's why when people are doing charity work to help others they are told they are doing god's work. They have to, god won't do it.
Even if... even if we couldn't explain why the universe doesn't just fall apart... the leap from "we don't know" to "must be God!" is probably one of the most dangerous things in society today.
I don't think science says anything about God. It just doesn't take into account or ignores the concept of God while making a hypothesis. In the same way it doesn't consider Santa Claus or leprechauns while making a hypothesis.
"Science is stupid" yet here we have him using science to make everyone see how stupid HE is
This is classic. I mean I know you get comments like "what's the point of these calls" but I think the point I'd other thiests watching have to stop and think, "am I saying shit like this? Omg"
not sure they all would see it as the bs that it is. :-s
I was having a conversation on ai the other day and this guy actually asked me if I studied botany at university. It took me a min to realise what he was saying. I then had to explain to this poor soul botanists dont build robots or ai's. I'm losing all faith in humanity here.
I agree with Richard, except I would have stopped at "Go away."
I was going to make a joke about this something like "of course gravity doesn't exist " but nothing even a truly great comedian (which I am NOT) would be more absurd then what flat earthers actually believe.
Here's the kicker. I don't think modern science has made a claim that there is no God. Rather it's not making assumptions it can prove in a verifiable way.
This has to be a troll
The argument: we/I don't know, therefore God.
If Chuck got shook and chucked his chair, how far could shook Chuck chuck his chair?
Please if you have a lot of callers in the queue , could you please triage calls , so you can get thru to more callers , if u have 16 calls left and you speak to two more thats about 14 that go unanswered so we the audience never get to hear them . some of them might have good content to share unlike the time wasters who babble on but strangely get priority
He doesn’t understand it no, but what his specific issue is what little he does understand points to solutions other than his god. And he doesn’t like that
Chuck also has trouble tying his shoelaces.
That’s why velcro exists
Did you guys ever see the South Park episode where Butters discovers he has royal Hawaiian blood?
I was thinking the guys at some point would have to respectfully, ask if Chuck has ever attended, or completed any form of public or private education.
He probably is as ignorant as he seems. Although I think he was just trying to be a troll.
Gravity does not exist, The Earth just sucks.
Tell me you're science illiterate without saying you're illiterate...