I actually get a lot of ridicule in my shop whenever I mention that I learned something from a UA-cam video. But hearing a masters thought processes during a complex job is so incredibly helpful. Trying to learn from my mentors in the actual shop is so difficult. They are in a hurry and they get so annoyed when you ask them why and what are they thinking about. And it's like they expect me to understand everything automatically. Thank you Eric and thank God for UA-cam!
Ignore those type. I went through the same in the mid 80's working at a Chevrolet dealership. There are those other guys that aren't that way. The one's that remember what it was like when they first started. Hang around them. They're our out there, and they are willing to help. One last thing. I'm 60, and learn from others on UA-cam all the time. When you think you know it all. That's when you cease to improve, and get better.
Amazing, it's not "just" replacing the timing chain. It's more like taking the whole engine apart to do so. Also, your videos are awesome, I can look at them for hours!
Eric, Typically when Nissan engines make noise in the timing area, it is usually caused by the tensioner or guide. The chain should last the life of the car. Early Nissan guides are made of plastic and can break over time. The tensioner can also fail prematurely causing slack in the chain, resulting in noise when operating. The VQ motors have the same issue. I appreciate the effort you went through doing this job. Very informative!
Hey, Eric. I'm a light commercial vehicle owner and my van is running on qr20de. It has a minor oil leak from the timing chain cover but I've put changing the timing chain on schedule next year with the sealant properly done. Your video for sure is very instructive, detailed, and organised. Thank you very much!
Hey Eric, I've just done my first head gasket and timing chain job, most of this is thanks to you. It had it's challenges, believe me, but in the end everything fell into place. Just like to say thanks.
Thank you for the video Eric! I sit and watch your videos without pausing till the end and then i knockout. Great sleep therapy for someone with minor sleeping disorder.
I did a Timing Chain on a Volkswagen Golf Mk6 (1.4 TSI) a few Weeks ago, thougt it was a pain in the ass. But when I see it on this car, it was a real easy one :D
I was a mechanic in the Air Force. We worked on American vehicles most of the time. When I was stationed in England, I got to work on Bedford and Mercedes vans. I've changed many timing chains and belts. This is the craziest timing chain job I've ever seen. I think I will just finish head gasket. I was planning on changing it since I was doing a head gasket, but from replies I've read, the chain is probably fine.
Thanks ETCG I found this video very useful for replacing the timing chain on my 2005 altima 2.5 although there are slight differences as the car in video was a sentra ser. For those considering taking on a job like this beware it is a lot of work but rewarding.
It's nice that your customers can see what is required to actually get to the timing chain, changing it is the simply bit. I am just a shady tree mechanic in the UK so it is nice to see it isn't just me that struggles.
Red pill well done, you've presented a clear case with solid arguments. What a disgracefully immature comment, you bring shame to your ill conceived cause
I'm in the process of replacing the head gasket on this same car for my daughter. I figured I would go ahead and replace the timing chain since I had to remove the timing cover anyway. This video helps alot. I thought I could wiggle the timing cover of once all the bolts were removed, but I can tell you it's near impossible to remove with the engine still in the car. Nice work Eric. I would love to have access to a shop and a lift like you have. Would have made this job alot easier, but after a few busted knuckles and some not so nice words I'll get it done! Lol . By the way this is a huge job expecially if you are also doing the head gasket. Your phone is your friend on this one! Take pictures and don't forget where your bolts go. Good luck everyone and thanks again Eric!
The bolt pattern is so crazy i started using a sheet of cardbox, drawing an outline of the part and plugging in the bolts in the general area....its been a lifesaver for sure
I "was" going to trade my mini van for one of these cars that needs a timing chain tensionor replace. LOL NO WAY. Thanks for showing me how hard the job is.
Thanks for defining timing chain "stretch". I never understood what that meant since it's such a terrible word choice. Now I understand it's elongation due to pivot wear. That info alone gets a thumbs up from me.
You are the MAN ... this is an involved repair.. and your sponsors are so awesome. Great video Eric... I'm hanging on the edge of my seat for the finale!
This engine was designed in a Christmas party. I don't own a Nissan and after this video, I will never get one. Video and commentary excellent well done.
Thanks for this video. I picked up a used 2.5 and it's on a stand. I will rebuild it using your video for the timing to familiarize myself first. It will be easier because it's out of the car. But you showed me a lot Thanks again. BTW...this is not my first rebuild. Just my first 2.5. I always spend a few minutes watching someone who's done one just to be ready for surprises.
Eric, always appreciate these videos. I love putting these longer ones on in the background and just watching off and on as you work while I do chores and whatnot. I can't really explain it, but watching you struggle with these cars motivates me to be productive. Keep up the great work!
Same, but I actually get motivations to work on my cars and know what I'm kinda doing. Than there's watching him while doing chores 🤣. I watch different mechanics. Every one has great problem solving techniques. Others are straight forward, Like Chris Fix It! Too bad these aren't videos of us fixing Unidentified Advance Phenomenon vehicles or A.K.A. UFO's
Why not just pull the engine to make an overhaul ? I really like your videos and have learn nice tricks on some repairs. I'm retired and do my own work as there are too many garage hackers out there and I don't trust there work. Also the cost is not worth there hacks. I work in the service industry for 43 years before my retirement in 2006. Please keep up the great work !! Thanks.
wow. it's like the only thing to do is take the engine out. i currently own an old nissan sentra with timing belt. i've never imagined that new sentras like this one with timing chains takes so much effort just to get to the chain. you deserve a beer eric.
Always worked with chains that weren't color coded. Like the older Honda small motorcycles. Forgot about the (several turns of crank to get links to line up on sprockets) , hats off to Eric for reminding this sixty year old.
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Watching this I've imagined a world in which you need to get 100% naked before changing your socks, even if socks are the only thing that needs to be changed ^^
"Sometimes I wish I was an ostrich, it would be nice to have knees that bend the other direction" LOL hes got some stand up comedy type humor very entertaining imagining yourself doing the work and finding that one bolt attaching the oil pickup to the timing cover.
Just thought i'd watch this video for some fresh ideas.....besides the fact that i'm eating and about to go out and do some work on a Ford Taurus...(unrelated work, i know). But anywho, you put in hella work back then, Eric, to get that timing cover off. I just did my Maxima 3.0 over the New Year weekend/week and it was no where that complicated! But i do remember trying to pull that cover before knowing that there were 2 bolts in the oil pan area... You must have got paid a pretty penny for that job (lol). But what i really wanna say is I've been watching your vids for over a year now and you've definitely come a long way... I enjoy watching your vids more than others because you make the 'learning experience' feel like a team effort: like we're learning together. With your "...i think.." and "this should be'''", type phrases... Same things i be saying when working on engines.... You're not one of those know-it-all mechanics (no name droppin)! But thank you for the experience and you have many Life Long Subscribers i imagine....including me!
What I really dislike about timing chains is that they are supposed to last as long as the engine should, instead they fail, and when they do it is so hard to replace them as You are showing here. Very good video and explanation!
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Erick The Car Guy...my God...you are the best of the best...the quality of the video and the way you are explaining the process is very exceptional. Erick The Car Guy.. Thanks
Oh man, I had that exact car and I can tell you just by looking at that stock exhaust manifold that there's probably a lot more wrong with it than just the timing chain.
I have a 2009 altima and she’s perfect lol I haven’t replaced the timing chain it runs so good I only replaced the manifold the belts and I replaced the transmission fluid oil and brakes but haven’t did the back yet I had it since 2009 it’s 2022 and she’s strong passes smog all the time and I drive it to Louisiana and back
i started working at Nissan as a lube tech working my way up and this video has really made me look forward to moving up to a main tech in the future............. ....... ......
Lol do you think an engineer went out of his way to make it difficult? They probably spent many hours into designing it to be as easy as possible, try to manage maintenance easeability with structural integrity along with performance and longevity and who knows what other considerations into the design of the engine.. I’d say this is pretty easy as compared to how it could be. If you don’t wanna do it than you probably shouldn’t be a mechanic
wow, this job seems very difficult i mean i have done timing belts before, but the chains seems to be in a whole other ball park, i give you props for doing this.
It’s definitely much easier to drop the motor/trans out. When you do that, you get full visibility and can hit all of the side fasteners with the air tools.
Re: around 23:30 - When I worked for Nissan, I discovered they have a very effective SST just for this situation. Nissan's usual MO with their oil pans is aluminum upper pan, stamped steel lower pan, and some really strong RTV applied liberally between. Anyway, I never seen this great tool before, and it was a *revelation* when it came getting these pans down. For a long time, I thought it was special, but as it turns out, if you search "RTV gasket cutter" you can get one for twelve bucks on the internet. I can't recommend this tool enough, but I would definitely spring for a good brand-name one. A cheap one will just make the job harder. For those not in the know, you pound the blade part into the oil pan RTV seal, then knock it around the edge of the pan with a hammer to split the seal.
An engine design that utilizes it's oil pan and timing cover as part of it's structural integrity. Great. Those coils aren't probably very strong anymore, and the plugs are toast. One of the drawbacks of an aluminum and plastic engine- all of that heat is dissipated into the plastic & rubber parts (O-rings, seals, hoses) making them warp and brittle. That breather hose might as well be an aluminum tube. Why does that (low pressure) AC line look like an afterthought? It's just swinging around, loose, sticking out like that? Bless you, Eric- and all of the Sponsors & contributors to the *Fixing It Forward* project. You have pulled many cars from the crusher jaws! What was the cost of all necessary parts? Your work here- is living and documented proof- that with time, money, patience, and skill- you don't have to take the lazy way out- and get burdened with a new car payment. I really do wish you would tally up the total parts cost for each vehicle in this program, and talk about it- as a way to weigh the pros and cons verses repair or replace. Thank you.
With all the work that needed to be done wouldn't it have been easier to just pull the engine out due the power steering rack then work on the engine while it's out for the timing chain and then put everything back?
You just made me change my mind about changing my GF timing chain on her 2005 1.8 Nissan Sentra. Time for her to invest in another car!!! Great Video!!
I have not done the timing on my 06 1.8, but it looks to be a lot simpler than the 2.5.... It's still a tricky repair, but it looks like it wouldn't require near as much disassembly - doesn't seem like near as much stuff is bolted on to the oil pan and the transverse piece that ties the motor mounts together.
So for example, I've not taken a wrench to it, but it seems like on the 1.8 you can get the pan and chain cove off without removing any of the motor mounts etc.
This is the most ridiculous design I've ever seen. Almost beyond belief. Timing chains and timing belts should be serviceable items. This surely isn't. That stated the owner is obviously negligent with respect to oil changes. That looked like tar not engine oil being taken out of the motor.
Cheers bro, had to do 1 of these at work while the main mechanic is off and I'm just starting out, would of been screwed without this video, couldn't find those 2 10mm bolts on the gear box side under that wee inspection flap. Thanks again.
+EricTheCarGuy To be fair, the big problem with this job is that the entire car is one of the most poorly designed machines (not just cars) I've ever seen. Not that it happens to have a timing chain. If Nissan had put a belt on it, you'd just have to do a horrible job more often. I have no confidence that the design would have been any more serviceable. That said, you weren't kidding a couple of weeks ago when you gave me a teaser about how terrible this job was.
+EricTheCarGuy Aside from the crankshaft bolt not wanting to come off and all of the engine cover bolts being hard to reach, it's not bad. This timing chain replacement would probably make me want to push the car off a cliff. Thanks for all your great videos Eric.
+snorman1911 At least it's not as bad as the Audi 2.4 and 3.2 V6 engines... If it's a manual you just have to take the gearbox out.. If not... Well, on the bright side it's easier when the engine is on the floor...
Not too surprised seeing all that oil in the spark plug tubes. Had the exact same in 3 out of 6 tubes in my 02' Maxima. Just had to replace the valve covers and gaskets. Thanks for the great video Eric!
Eric, tht idle pulley just sounded dry. The seal is very easy to open and I just clean them with brakeclean and compressed air and stuff new high temp grease in them. Ive had customers with up to 50k miles on my greased idlers and the grease was still in them, spinning very smoothly with some resistance just like a new bearing. Unless its really bad, but in most cases if u get them early they are just dried out, just lube them, service them.
+ltwargssf R Interesting, but when you go through this much work on a 'customers' car, I like to just replace it. Saves time and possibly a future repair. Thanks for the input.
you're definitely losing money and time but for my close customers and my own vehicles, the less money they have to spend the better they feel and the more they trust you. But obviously you cant do it for everyone since its costing you more then the customer. But this is a fixing it forward so maybe it would be worth it just my 2cents.
You take a small flat head and take the seal out on the bearing, clean it it with break clean, blow it out with air, pack grease.. Wont take you more then 5mins so I don't why everyone is saying it's a lot of work.. I can do is in under 5mins.. this ins't a timing job that take 5hours..
Man it was amazing seeing you work your magic. I now realize I'm not the only one who runs into issues where you have to think outside the box to get job done l... but honestly why didn't the manufactures make it easier to work on
I was stated $3,500 for a Nissan Quest. I was told the engine had to come out which is a complete lie. Today's mechanics cannot think beyond what their programming tells them beyond the manual. I know they are trained monkeys that get paid by what is delegated in a manual. I am doing my own.
You’re so calm. All the edits must be the swears. My Rogue 107k 2014 is not starting. Suspect timing belt. No codes. Good spark, spray fuel no change. I’m going to hire someone
...and this boys and girls is why when you take your car into the shop for a new timing chain...many times they tell you that you could buy a good used car for less than the repair...and yes...I know people that have been told that. WOW Eric...that was some work.
I get paid 70k a year to design residential hvac systems, instead I'm watching 53 minutes of Eric changing timing chains on a nissan at work..thank you Eric
Damn Eric I have been watching a lot of your videos but this was by far the most difficult one! I feel like if you can handle this there is no job you would not survive. Thanks for the great vids. Greetings from Finland
+David G I don't know if you're right or not, but that's a sound point you make as far as I can tell. But, if he solved the problem by attending to that issue only, the vehicles lifespan clock would winding down. So maybe the universe tends to unfold as it should.
Could the design engineers have made it any harder a job to do? That is insane, hat off to you me Eric, glad the belt on my car is so much easier! Does not surprise me that the first cut was 5 hours, that's good going for that job.
Good Job Eric I would not know what I am doing or have the patience haha the ending whoa kids gotta cut you off here.I can't believe I watched this for an hour about.Always great videos and I enjoy watching them all,always learning something different and new.
First five minutes made me love my Toyota 22RE even more. just completed this job and it had to be ten times easier. and by the way, it's also a 2.4L engine, and no balancer.
Eric the car guy, I can't express to you how helpful this video has been, thank you so much. I've been working on my 2005 nissan for a long time, way too long of a time, changing the blown head (thanks girlfriend for that). What a nightmare! And I'm sure being the auto wizard that you are that you would recommend (like the manufacture does) to change the timing chains and water pump while I'm at it right? I would of been lost if not for your video. I've changed heads before and it's usually a weekend job (for me) even with the right tools! Well as you know so well, not in this case. I tend to think its almost worth taking the d%&n engine out to do it. But just wanted to thank you because I had no idea how extensive and laboring this job really was. I'm just a backyard mechanic and I would of been lost trying to do this job with out your help. I'm just now working on removing that stupid double oil pan and timing chain cover and its been a nightmare. Again, probably would of pushed this car off a cliff if not for your thorough, descriptive and top quality video 'Eric the car guy'. You rock dude!!!! Thank you.....
holy FREAKING NUT BALLS!!!! u have to do all this to change a timing chain??? daaaammmnnnI think being a mechanic would probably be one of the coolest jobs ever, but thisvideo makes me wanna cry just looking at it. good job Eric, guys like u make guys like me have a easier life not having to fix cars :)
Another great video Eric. Thanks. I especially appreciate your videos of vehicle / engine types I own. I have had 2 Nissan 2.5 liter engines in my past and always wondered what it took to get to that chain...and now I know.
I would have taken this car to be shredded after about 10 minutes of trying to do this job!! Dunno how you have the patience. Meanwhile, I'll be watching the rest of the part 1 and getting some popcorn ready for part 2!!
Guess what guys. I was told that my timing chain had jumped a tooth or so. Two mechanics recommended to put an other engine in. So I did. I found a mechanic for $400.00 plus the 2.5 engine for $200.00. My new engine runs greatly. Now I’m going in to find out if there is something wrong with my chain. I suspect not. Probably a sensor that controls the timing. I came in here because I wasn’t able to remove the front cover to see my chain assembly. This guy is great, made it look so ease with his tools. But he almost removed the engine to get there. How ironic!
ok, I'm doing a head gasket on a 96 maxima with a 3.0 v6 in it and I decided to do the timing chains and water pump at the same time. also did the front seal. I wasn't able to line up the timing marks before disassembly and when I went to put it back together in had to look around for how to line up the marks correctly. everyone said do it one way so I did it like that but something didn't feel right so I just left it alone for a while. when I was ready to mess with it again I found the maxima forum online regarding the timing chain and it showed exactly how everything should sit, where the colored chain links should land and all. I'm glad I didn't call it good and finish up like that and try to start it. I would of had some bent valves if I had. on mine is didn't have to remove the upper pan just the lower pan and 2 bolts holding the chain cover to the upper pan. the old chain and guides were worn big time and the water pump was leaking, also had the same issue with the spark plug tube seals. parts for the maxima aren't cheap. the chain kit was over 250$ at the parts store but I got mine online for 115. in my case it's my car and I can wait for parts to be shipped. why couldn't this video have been done months ago. would have made my life easier knowing what to expect for the most part
What a task that was! Looking in because my civic may need a new chain according to mechanic based on the fact a replaced crankshaft sensor is again showing an EML. Now I know why the repair is so expensive!
I actually get a lot of ridicule in my shop whenever I mention that I learned something from a UA-cam video. But hearing a masters thought processes during a complex job is so incredibly helpful. Trying to learn from my mentors in the actual shop is so difficult. They are in a hurry and they get so annoyed when you ask them why and what are they thinking about. And it's like they expect me to understand everything automatically. Thank you Eric and thank God for UA-cam!
+Dannysrc That comment just made my day. Thanks.
@@ericthecarguy easier just to pull the engine and if need be replace the engine or do timing then 2.5 not that expensive.....!!!!!!
Ignore those type. I went through the same in the mid 80's working at a Chevrolet dealership. There are those other guys that aren't that way. The one's that remember what it was like when they first started. Hang around them. They're our out there, and they are willing to help. One last thing. I'm 60, and learn from others on UA-cam all the time. When you think you know it all. That's when you cease to improve, and get better.
Amazing, it's not "just" replacing the timing chain. It's more like taking the whole engine apart to do so. Also, your videos are awesome, I can look at them for hours!
Eric,
Typically when Nissan engines make noise in the timing area, it is usually caused by the tensioner or guide. The chain should last the life of the car. Early Nissan guides are made of plastic and can break over time. The tensioner can also fail prematurely causing slack in the chain, resulting in noise when operating. The VQ motors have the same issue. I appreciate the effort you went through doing this job. Very informative!
Define life of the car. It has 240,000 miles on it (2007) I just spent 2k on various new things.
Hey, Eric. I'm a light commercial vehicle owner and my van is running on qr20de. It has a minor oil leak from the timing chain cover but I've put changing the timing chain on schedule next year with the sealant properly done. Your video for sure is very instructive, detailed, and organised. Thank you very much!
Hey Eric, I've just done my first head gasket and timing chain job, most of this is thanks to you. It had it's challenges, believe me, but in the end everything fell into place. Just like to say thanks.
i don't know what it is but I love watching this guy work. Very entertaining and great at explaining while he works.
+fooey88 Thanks.
Thank you for the video Eric! I sit and watch your videos without pausing till the end and then i knockout. Great sleep therapy for someone with minor sleeping disorder.
I don't know why, but I find it entertaining watching these repair videos on cars I don't own or ever would ever own.
I did a Timing Chain on a Volkswagen Golf Mk6 (1.4 TSI) a few Weeks ago, thougt it was a pain in the ass. But when I see it on this car, it was a real easy one :D
I was a mechanic in the Air Force. We worked on American vehicles most of the time. When I was stationed in England, I got to work on Bedford and Mercedes vans. I've changed many timing chains and belts. This is the craziest timing chain job I've ever seen. I think I will just finish head gasket. I was planning on changing it since I was doing a head gasket, but from replies I've read, the chain is probably fine.
Thanks ETCG I found this video very useful for replacing the timing chain on my 2005 altima 2.5 although there are slight differences as the car in video was a sentra ser. For those considering taking on a job like this beware it is a lot of work but rewarding.
It's nice that your customers can see what is required to actually get to the timing chain, changing it is the simply bit.
I am just a shady tree mechanic in the UK so it is nice to see it isn't just me that struggles.
ETCG expertly fixing all the abused piles of crap cars put before him. Hardly a complaint. That's a REAL man.
Shut up dumb bitch...
Red pill well done, you've presented a clear case with solid arguments. What a disgracefully immature comment, you bring shame to your ill conceived cause
I'm in the process of replacing the head gasket on this same car for my daughter. I figured I would go ahead and replace the timing chain since I had to remove the timing cover anyway. This video helps alot. I thought I could wiggle the timing cover of once all the bolts were removed, but I can tell you it's near impossible to remove with the engine still in the car. Nice work Eric. I would love to have access to a shop and a lift like you have. Would have made this job alot easier, but after a few busted knuckles and some not so nice words I'll get it done! Lol . By the way this is a huge job expecially if you are also doing the head gasket. Your phone is your friend on this one! Take pictures and don't forget where your bolts go. Good luck everyone and thanks again Eric!
The bolt pattern is so crazy i started using a sheet of cardbox, drawing an outline of the part and plugging in the bolts in the general area....its been a lifesaver for sure
I "was" going to trade my mini van for one of these cars that needs a timing chain tensionor replace. LOL NO WAY. Thanks for showing me how hard the job is.
Thanks for defining timing chain "stretch". I never understood what that meant since it's such a terrible word choice. Now I understand it's elongation due to pivot wear. That info alone gets a thumbs up from me.
You are the MAN ... this is an involved repair.. and your sponsors are so awesome. Great video Eric... I'm hanging on the edge of my seat for the finale!
That satisfying sound of a fastener letting go. Thank you Eric.
that's one hell of a camera guy! he did a good job sticking with you
This engine was designed in a Christmas party. I don't own a Nissan and after this video, I will never get one. Video and commentary excellent well done.
Thanks Eric. Nice to see the Beta tools are more useful than you first thought after your initial review of them. 👍🏻
Thanks for this video. I picked up a used 2.5 and it's on a stand. I will rebuild it using your video for the timing to familiarize myself first. It will be easier because it's out of the car. But you showed me a lot
Thanks again. BTW...this is not my first rebuild. Just my first 2.5. I always spend a few minutes watching someone who's done one just to be ready for surprises.
Holly molly I never knew that a timing chain replacement could be so involved, excellent video
+Nick Torres No shit.. That seems like a LOT of work just for a timing chain.
Well it's only this engine design, most other engines are much more common sense built, still a pain but not as stupid as QR25
Eric, always appreciate these videos. I love putting these longer ones on in the background and just watching off and on as you work while I do chores and whatnot. I can't really explain it, but watching you struggle with these cars motivates me to be productive. Keep up the great work!
Same, but I actually get motivations to work on my cars and know what I'm kinda doing. Than there's watching him while doing chores 🤣. I watch different mechanics. Every one has great problem solving techniques. Others are straight forward, Like Chris Fix It! Too bad these aren't videos of us fixing Unidentified Advance Phenomenon vehicles or A.K.A. UFO's
Just replace whole freaking engine , man just totally increased my Love of Hondas
Love it so much
Thank you so much for these videos. If I would have never found these, my car would probably be in the junkyard. They helped IMMENSELY.
Why not just pull the engine to make an overhaul ? I really like your videos and have learn nice tricks on some repairs. I'm retired and do my own work as there are too many garage hackers out there and I don't trust there work. Also the cost is not worth there hacks. I work in the service industry for 43 years before my retirement in 2006. Please keep up the great work !! Thanks.
wow. it's like the only thing to do is take the engine out. i currently own an old nissan sentra with timing belt. i've never imagined that new sentras like this one with timing chains takes so much effort just to get to the chain. you deserve a beer eric.
How are you so good at doing the description? Eric, you're a wizard man
+TacticalBBQSauce Thanks!
EricTheCarGuy
No worries, I haven't had to use them yet, but they will be so handy when I do!
Always worked with chains that weren't color coded. Like the older Honda small motorcycles. Forgot about the (several turns of crank to get links to line up on sprockets) , hats off to Eric for reminding this sixty year old.
Watching this I've imagined a world in which you need to get 100% naked before changing your socks, even if socks are the only thing that needs to be changed ^^
and your wearing ten sets of winter clothes
That Sir! Is the best description of auto mechanics I've ever read
How much extra money can we make????
Well you keep entertained for an hour because I've got to do the same thing in just a couple days. Looking forward to part 2
"Now the patient is asleep." LOL
"Sometimes I wish I was an ostrich, it would be nice to have knees that bend the other direction" LOL hes got some stand up comedy type humor very entertaining imagining yourself doing the work and finding that one bolt attaching the oil pickup to the timing cover.
Just thought i'd watch this video for some fresh ideas.....besides the fact that i'm eating and about to go out and do some work on a Ford Taurus...(unrelated work, i know). But anywho, you put in hella work back then, Eric, to get that timing cover off. I just did my Maxima 3.0 over the New Year weekend/week and it was no where that complicated! But i do remember trying to pull that cover before knowing that there were 2 bolts in the oil pan area...
You must have got paid a pretty penny for that job (lol).
But what i really wanna say is I've been watching your vids for over a year now and you've definitely come a long way... I enjoy watching your vids more than others because you make the 'learning experience' feel like a team effort: like we're learning together. With your "...i think.." and "this should be'''", type phrases... Same things i be saying when working on engines.... You're not one of those know-it-all mechanics (no name droppin)! But thank you for the experience and you have many Life Long Subscribers i imagine....including me!
You're a sucker for punishment Eric. But I enjoy watching this and DEFINITELY for a good cause!! Good job!
What I really dislike about timing chains is that they are supposed to last as long as the engine should, instead they fail, and when they do it is so hard to replace them as You are showing here. Very good video and explanation!
eric,you have great patience.i will never buy a nissan
tim funk you sound like a real intelligent person.
+tim funk why so abusive on the internet lol ?
@@rustybrowneye what the hell is wrong with you bro?
Nissan garbage brand
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Eric how often do you go back to the video to find out where your extra bolts go?
funny i needed to find one lol and found 2 oh wait i can put them back next time i do it cause wasnt write
Erick The Car Guy...my God...you are the best of the best...the quality of the video and the way you are explaining the process is very exceptional. Erick The Car Guy.. Thanks
Oh man, I had that exact car and I can tell you just by looking at that stock exhaust manifold that there's probably a lot more wrong with it than just the timing chain.
Hopefully the intake manifold runner butterfly valve screws are not loose...
I have a 2009 altima and she’s perfect lol I haven’t replaced the timing chain it runs so good I only replaced the manifold the belts and I replaced the transmission fluid oil and brakes but haven’t did the back yet I had it since 2009 it’s 2022 and she’s strong passes smog all the time and I drive it to Louisiana and back
Great "mechanic-ing!" Calm, cool, collected, methodical focused, NO strong language 😜 ...very professional!
How about including approximate charge an individual should pay for such work?
+krzysiekv12 Labor time would likely be 8-10 hours.
New to your videos Eric and what I really like about them is you show the real struggles which are part and parcel of working on cars
That car was built on a monday or a friday.
Definitely not on a Wednesday...
lickymywicky ...... it was built in Meh he coe by a man in a sombrero eating tacos.
Those are the only days Nissan's are made.
This is the best video on here to do this job. I learned alot watching you video. I'm now confident about tackling this job!
those spring bolts get really exciting when they break and the bolts and springs turn into high speed projectiles
How many chains are in in the Altima ?
i started working at Nissan as a lube tech working my way up and this video has really made me look forward to moving up to a main tech in the future............. ....... ......
There must be a special place in hell for engineers who make repair jobs this difficult! 😬
Or a special place in Renault management.
Dam I just wrote about that. Go to hell engineers!!!
it is pure evil!
I was wondering why is he taking the valve cover off just to check the timing chain....
Lol do you think an engineer went out of his way to make it difficult? They probably spent many hours into designing it to be as easy as possible, try to manage maintenance easeability with structural integrity along with performance and longevity and who knows what other considerations into the design of the engine.. I’d say this is pretty easy as compared to how it could be. If you don’t wanna do it than you probably shouldn’t be a mechanic
Your comment about your knees bending the opposite way cracked me up. So true. But wow, are you kidding me? What a mess changing the timing chain.
3:00 *"now the patient is asleep" lololol*
wow, this job seems very difficult i mean i have done timing belts before, but the chains seems to be in a whole other ball park, i give you props for doing this.
+Randomvids also being someone who likes to work on there own car...i may think twice about buying a Nissan now.
Timing chains on Nissan's are nightmares, might as well pull the whole engine out.
+Ciscodude + with Nissan, it's understood you need the hands of a two year old.
+Ciscodude Partly why my family had to get rid of our maxima. So complex, no room and seriously compounds any other repair that involves it.
Wouldve taken alot longer to pull the engine
@@tonytall5750 Not at all if i had that lift id drop it out the bottom.
It’s definitely much easier to drop the motor/trans out. When you do that, you get full visibility and can hit all of the side fasteners with the air tools.
Nissan and Infiniti's are PITA to work on, everything is so tight and tricky to disassemble! You have great patience and knowledge sir!
Hi Eric, great tutorial. by the way, what camera did you use, it's smooth and clear, just curious.
Re: around 23:30 - When I worked for Nissan, I discovered they have a very effective SST just for this situation. Nissan's usual MO with their oil pans is aluminum upper pan, stamped steel lower pan, and some really strong RTV applied liberally between. Anyway, I never seen this great tool before, and it was a *revelation* when it came getting these pans down. For a long time, I thought it was special, but as it turns out, if you search "RTV gasket cutter" you can get one for twelve bucks on the internet. I can't recommend this tool enough, but I would definitely spring for a good brand-name one. A cheap one will just make the job harder. For those not in the know, you pound the blade part into the oil pan RTV seal, then knock it around the edge of the pan with a hammer to split the seal.
Also if you see that much of the tensioner plunger extended you can be certain the timing chain is badly worn
An engine design that utilizes it's oil pan and timing cover as part of it's structural integrity. Great. Those coils aren't probably very strong anymore, and the plugs are toast. One of the drawbacks of an aluminum and plastic engine- all of that heat is dissipated into the plastic & rubber parts (O-rings, seals, hoses) making them warp and brittle. That breather hose might as well be an aluminum tube. Why does that (low pressure) AC line look like an afterthought? It's just swinging around, loose, sticking out like that? Bless you, Eric- and all of the Sponsors & contributors to the *Fixing It Forward* project. You have pulled many cars from the crusher jaws! What was the cost of all necessary parts? Your work here- is living and documented proof- that with time, money, patience, and skill- you don't have to take the lazy way out- and get burdened with a new car payment. I really do wish you would tally up the total parts cost for each vehicle in this program, and talk about it- as a way to weigh the pros and cons verses repair or replace. Thank you.
With all the work that needed to be done wouldn't it have been easier to just pull the engine out due the power steering rack then work on the engine while it's out for the timing chain and then put everything back?
You just made me change my mind about changing my GF timing chain on her 2005 1.8 Nissan Sentra. Time for her to invest in another car!!! Great Video!!
I have not done the timing on my 06 1.8, but it looks to be a lot simpler than the 2.5.... It's still a tricky repair, but it looks like it wouldn't require near as much disassembly - doesn't seem like near as much stuff is bolted on to the oil pan and the transverse piece that ties the motor mounts together.
So for example, I've not taken a wrench to it, but it seems like on the 1.8 you can get the pan and chain cove off without removing any of the motor mounts etc.
This is the most ridiculous design I've ever seen. Almost beyond belief. Timing chains and timing belts should be serviceable items. This surely isn't. That stated the owner is obviously negligent with respect to oil changes. That looked like tar not engine oil being taken out of the motor.
+SATAMAN Schmidt There are worse ones out there.
Cheers bro, had to do 1 of these at work while the main mechanic is off and I'm just starting out, would of been screwed without this video, couldn't find those 2 10mm bolts on the gear box side under that wee inspection flap. Thanks again.
Honda J32A2 timing belt change doesn't seem too bad any more... :)
+snorman1911 Those are easy.
+EricTheCarGuy To be fair, the big problem with this job is that the entire car is one of the most poorly designed machines (not just cars) I've ever seen. Not that it happens to have a timing chain. If Nissan had put a belt on it, you'd just have to do a horrible job more often. I have no confidence that the design would have been any more serviceable.
That said, you weren't kidding a couple of weeks ago when you gave me a teaser about how terrible this job was.
+EricTheCarGuy Aside from the crankshaft bolt not wanting to come off and all of the engine cover bolts being hard to reach, it's not bad. This timing chain replacement would probably make me want to push the car off a cliff. Thanks for all your great videos Eric.
J32As can be done by a blind cat. Try changing the chains on a Ford SOHC 4.0..
+snorman1911 At least it's not as bad as the Audi 2.4 and 3.2 V6 engines...
If it's a manual you just have to take the gearbox out.. If not... Well, on the bright side it's easier when the engine is on the floor...
Not too surprised seeing all that oil in the spark plug tubes. Had the exact same in 3 out of 6 tubes in my 02' Maxima. Just had to replace the valve covers and gaskets. Thanks for the great video Eric!
Eric, tht idle pulley just sounded dry. The seal is very easy to open and I just clean them with brakeclean and compressed air and stuff new high temp grease in them. Ive had customers with up to 50k miles on my greased idlers and the grease was still in them, spinning very smoothly with some resistance just like a new bearing. Unless its really bad, but in most cases if u get them early they are just dried out, just lube them, service them.
good tip
+ltwargssf R Interesting, but when you go through this much work on a 'customers' car, I like to just replace it. Saves time and possibly a future repair. Thanks for the input.
you're definitely losing money and time but for my close customers and my own vehicles, the less money they have to spend the better they feel and the more they trust you. But obviously you cant do it for everyone since its costing you more then the customer.
But this is a fixing it forward so maybe it would be worth it just my 2cents.
That sounds like a lot of work for a cheap bearing or a new pulley. Time is 💰. If someone is that cheap I don't want to work on there car anyway
You take a small flat head and take the seal out on the bearing, clean it it with break clean, blow it out with air, pack grease.. Wont take you more then 5mins so I don't why everyone is saying it's a lot of work.. I can do is in under 5mins.. this ins't a timing job that take 5hours..
Man it was amazing seeing you work your magic. I now realize I'm not the only one who runs into issues where you have to think outside the box to get job done l... but honestly why didn't the manufactures make it easier to work on
$3500 job on a $1200 car. go figure.
no doubt
I was stated $3,500 for a Nissan Quest. I was told the engine had to come out which is a complete lie. Today's mechanics cannot think beyond what their programming tells them beyond the manual. I know they are trained monkeys that get paid by what is delegated in a manual. I am doing my own.
@@scottfirman It’s not the mechanics, it’s the dealers and service writers
Guy clearly will not be parted with his beloved Nissan no matter the price and... all power to him tbh
You’re so calm. All the edits must be the swears. My Rogue 107k 2014 is not starting. Suspect timing belt. No codes. Good spark, spray fuel no change. I’m going to hire someone
Where are all the whiners crying that Eric doesn't post repair videos? He posts them all the time! lol...
+Mozzie Thank you!!
...and this boys and girls is why when you take your car into the shop for a new timing chain...many times they tell you that you could buy a good used car for less than the repair...and yes...I know people that have been told that. WOW Eric...that was some work.
why didn't you just remove the engine? so much work in tight place
I pull the engines out myself when I deside to take on a timing chain job. That oil pan is 3 layers!
I'd have the engine swinging in an hour n 45 minutes, but I've done 20 of them
I get paid 70k a year to design residential hvac systems, instead I'm watching 53 minutes of Eric changing timing chains on a nissan at work..thank you Eric
Scotty would have done that in under thrre minutes !:D
+TheCarista Without a lift? yeah right
+xecuter2 scotty is good for some basic infornation. Etcg does detailled repair videos :) love both of them
+TheCarista Today I'm gonna show ya, how to replace a timing chain on your, car!!
+TheCarista LOL
Scotty's a clown
Damn Eric I have been watching a lot of your videos but this was by far the most difficult one! I feel like if you can handle this there is no job you would not survive.
Thanks for the great vids. Greetings from Finland
It didn't cross your mind that maybe the problems the engine was having could be due to those spark plugs?
+David G No.
+David G Fairly certain he proved that the timing chain was stretched by showing us the tensioner.
StopDropandLOL so the tensioner is doing its job? was still under tight tension.
+David G I don't know if you're right or not, but that's a sound point you make as far as I can tell. But, if he solved the problem by attending to that issue only, the vehicles lifespan clock would winding down. So maybe the universe tends to unfold as it should.
Dan.vaku ah right.
Could the design engineers have made it any harder a job to do? That is insane, hat off to you me Eric, glad the belt on my car is so much easier! Does not surprise me that the first cut was 5 hours, that's good going for that job.
Cliff notes: QR25 Timing chains are a bitch and a half.
Good Job Eric I would not know what I am doing or have the patience haha the ending whoa kids gotta cut you off here.I can't believe I watched this for an hour about.Always great videos and I enjoy watching them all,always learning something different and new.
Stuff that when my qr25 needs a timing chain it's going in the bin
First five minutes made me love my Toyota 22RE even more. just completed this job and it had to be ten times easier. and by the way, it's also a 2.4L engine, and no balancer.
this job has a whole lot of fuck that written all over it
I just found out I'm NOT afraid of work, I can sit and watch it being done .... Thanks Erick stay dirty !!!!.
looks like a nightmare car to work with.
I have one, quite the nightmare and some faulty design makes the head gasket useless after 100k or less
Lots of Nissan’s are in general hard to work on.
Eric the car guy, I can't express to you how helpful this video has been, thank you so much. I've been working on my 2005 nissan for a long time, way too long of a time, changing the blown head (thanks girlfriend for that). What a nightmare! And I'm sure being the auto wizard that you are that you would recommend (like the manufacture does) to change the timing chains and water pump while I'm at it right? I would of been lost if not for your video. I've changed heads before and it's usually a weekend job (for me) even with the right tools! Well as you know so well, not in this case. I tend to think its almost worth taking the d%&n engine out to do it. But just wanted to thank you because I had no idea how extensive and laboring this job really was. I'm just a backyard mechanic and I would of been lost trying to do this job with out your help. I'm just now working on removing that stupid double oil pan and timing chain cover and its been a nightmare. Again, probably would of pushed this car off a cliff if not for your thorough, descriptive and top quality video 'Eric the car guy'. You rock dude!!!! Thank you.....
All that for a timing chain replacement?! Engineers really need to sort their shit out.
It wasn't the engineers. It was the financial directors, they chose the cheapest, fastest route. NEVER the best route
holy FREAKING NUT BALLS!!!! u have to do all this to change a timing chain??? daaaammmnnnI think being a mechanic would probably be one of the coolest jobs ever, but thisvideo makes me wanna cry just looking at it. good job Eric, guys like u make guys like me have a easier life not having to fix cars :)
Anyone else stuck at 79 views? Is this the new 301? Lol
71*
+Wtrxprs007able 71 for me, nearly an hour after your 79 - good old youtube.
+Wtrxprs007able 71 :D
+Wtrxprs007able yep 71 still
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Another great video Eric. Thanks. I especially appreciate your videos of vehicle / engine types I own. I have had 2 Nissan 2.5 liter engines in my past and always wondered what it took to get to that chain...and now I know.
I would junk a car before doing a job like this.
Ralph Livingston three choices, ride til it died, replace the motor, buy another car
This is like the Japanese version of Barbara's van. God bless you Eric.
I thought timing chain last forever
I would have taken this car to be shredded after about 10 minutes of trying to do this job!! Dunno how you have the patience. Meanwhile, I'll be watching the rest of the part 1 and getting some popcorn ready for part 2!!
well I know I'm not buying a Sentra..
holy clusterfuck Batman
I am quite intrigued with this; I have never done a timing chain before and this is a learning experience for me. I have always wanted to see it.
Type Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... lol
Guess what guys. I was told that my timing chain had jumped a tooth or so. Two mechanics recommended to put an other engine in. So I did. I found a mechanic for $400.00 plus the 2.5 engine for $200.00. My new engine runs greatly. Now I’m going in to find out if there is something wrong with my chain. I suspect not. Probably a sensor that controls the timing. I came in here because I wasn’t able to remove the front cover to see my chain assembly.
This guy is great, made it look so ease with his tools. But he almost removed the engine to get there. How ironic!
Please accept Jesus if not already we never know our last Day
Mine was yesterday
Fuck fairy tales.
MrStoneycool69 pretty much lol
Great video as always Eric. Really enjoy your longer videos.
Have a good weekend.
ok, I'm doing a head gasket on a 96 maxima with a 3.0 v6 in it and I decided to do the timing chains and water pump at the same time. also did the front seal. I wasn't able to line up the timing marks before disassembly and when I went to put it back together in had to look around for how to line up the marks correctly. everyone said do it one way so I did it like that but something didn't feel right so I just left it alone for a while. when I was ready to mess with it again I found the maxima forum online regarding the timing chain and it showed exactly how everything should sit, where the colored chain links should land and all. I'm glad I didn't call it good and finish up like that and try to start it. I would of had some bent valves if I had. on mine is didn't have to remove the upper pan just the lower pan and 2 bolts holding the chain cover to the upper pan. the old chain and guides were worn big time and the water pump was leaking, also had the same issue with the spark plug tube seals. parts for the maxima aren't cheap. the chain kit was over 250$ at the parts store but I got mine online for 115. in my case it's my car and I can wait for parts to be shipped. why couldn't this video have been done months ago. would have made my life easier knowing what to expect for the most part
What a task that was!
Looking in because my civic may need a new chain according to mechanic based on the fact a replaced crankshaft sensor is again showing an EML.
Now I know why the repair is so expensive!