If you want to play Etrian Odyssey IV on Citra: Step 1: Enabling speed-up Once Etrian Odyssey IV appears in Citra's game select, - Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Properties -> Set Emulation Speed to 150% - Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Advanced -> DISABLE VSync - Go to Emulation -> Controls -> Hotkeys -> Toggle Per-Game Speed, assign your hotkey of choice. Step 2: Changing Resolution - Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Internal Resolution, change to your liking Step 3: Using game mods - Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Open Mods Location, drag mods to the folder that pops up. Recommended mods: EO4: - Speed Patch (romfs) by violentlycar - EO4 “Transparency Patch” by GlitchMC Links to these can be found in the EO Utility Links Google Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit Troubleshooting: - Make sure the code(dot)bin file is OUTSIDE the romfs folder, and none of them are contained in any folders past the point you arrived at when you did "Open Mods Location". - No, Citra does not have support for multiple keys bound to a single button. - Yeah, sometimes Citra may just crash on you. Not much you can do about it, just make sure your settings are sensible.
You know, since it was my first, I never was bothered by the speed. Even replaying it recently, I didn't even realize. I always go slowly and methodically, because I am either mapping, or paying attention to FOE movement though...
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I agree here. I started with EO1 and I'm always looking at what the enemy does to figure out what to keep in mind for the next encounter, so I actually really dislike it when actions fly by without getting to see which parts I need to bind, what type of damage the enemy uses, and what skill actually killed me. I've seen several times that people are caught off-guard by fast-moving combat because it makes them not pay attention to anything.
Just my 2 cents: I'd recommend them Etrian Odyssey Untold before either of your recommendations - simply because they might not want to play the best 1st. If you play the peak first it's only downhill from there. OR EO4 with the speed patch, which you just taught me about😂 EO4 would be my go-to for recommendations if you could run without a patch. It's by far the slowest EO game, physically. But it also has a lot of mechanics that offer newcomers assistance while allowing vets to break boundaries. So if Untold is too easy then EO4 is there Editing to adress difficulty and strategy - I honestly think the skill simulators just break the games. If you aren't figuring out strats yourself it just becomes a matter of attrition (getting the skill points) and a coin toss (did you get the right rng on turn 1 - and this is usually " did X survive the turn in order to properly start the setup). I'm just not a fan of guaranteed strats, so I'm recommending based on that mindset. I also don't think using the sim is pushing limits - like obviously it is in a practical sense but in terms of the player themselves doing it, they're just relying on a strategy given to them to get a number they can sorta calculate. That's not the same thing as pushing the limits to me. The people who discovered those strats before the simulators are the limit pushers
Etrian Odyssey is basically a Dungeons & Dragons campaign in the best possible sense. And the DS/3DS is the absolute perfect platform for it - filling in maps yourself is just such an important part of the experience, the automapping of the re-release is just taking away a bit from that, though I recognize they had to do it. I do hope that we'll eventually get a new EO, but I also believe this series would have to go to Phones and Tablets with a touchscreen to really retain what makes it so great. PS: EO3 actually has a good story, and I'm happy it's available for a good price again instead of needing to hunt a $$$$$ original DS cartridge.
EO is closest to Wizardry (which itself was inspired from DnD). Because Wizardry codified the DnD experience into computer format that every RPG/JRPG has been using ever since.
It's not forgotten! I cry in my corner waiting for any game that is ETRIAN LIKE. I sob im my corner that ETRIAN MYSTERY DUNGEON is stuck on the 3DS when it's my two favorite Dungeon Divers together! 😢
I know some of the simpler RPG games in recent years (e.g. Undernauts) have come close to being Etrian-like, while taking a different artstyle & not wholesale implementing the mapping system (maybe due to copyrighting or something) But not a single game, not even one, has come close to a Valkyria Chronicles-like. That's what saddens me the most. It's been out for like, over 15 years at this point, and nobody's managed a turn-based strategy using something similar to the BLiTZ system. I swear, if indie developers manage to replicate the BLiTZ system for their Steam / GOG games & add a level editor for UGCs, it would sell like hotcakes even if the graphics are all 16-bit. There's a huge desire & thirst for more VCs that few have publicly acknowledged
Besides the wonderful class design, it's also underrated how great the random encounters are. Many JRPGs end up with their enemies being simple fodder, but in EO, they use more interesing tactics (including synergies your own party might use), on top of being fairly strong and challenging your TP management. You also get FOEs doubling as obstacles AND minibosses, so in general, it doesn't feel like only the bosses are the good parts and the game is more consistently entertaining.
Like im not kidding every class is cool af and viable and its like the only game with multiple viable and interesting tanks and healers. Also it has viable petrify and i think that is cool
Hell yeah it's my favorite also. I really really really prefer the branching class paths over the sub class systems. Not only does it make it so every class combo can work together since it gives every class ways to contribute support or offensively, it makes it so classes don't straight up cannibalize another class's role later in the game. The different races also lets you use a few of the classes in very different ways, so if you play around with your party setup you can build some interesting teams.
The biggest thing with Etrain for me, which you only barely touched on: Engage with the story. "But these games don't have much story!" Exactly. Just like your build is an open question, and your map is an empty sheet of graph paper, the story is also a blank script for you to fill in as you see fit. The story is *just* extant enough that you have a shape to conform to. It's like a coloring book for your story. Don't just look at your party as a stat block and a list of skills and skill point allocations. Who are they? What are they doing here in the labyrinth? Why are they here? How do thye interact with eachother? How do they interact with the town? Do they have friends or family who aren't in the team or npcs? the game is asking you, begging you, to be creative in so many ways, and you do yourself a disservice to not engage with all of it I think. Whether you write a full on fanfic or you just have these little interactions in your head, your time with Etrian will be SO much more fun if you think of your party as characters. Be creative with this game in every way you can be, and you'll have a great time, I promise.
I started with Etrian Odyssey Untold way back when after playing the demo for a little while, and I had a great time playing through the story mode in the full game. I picked up Untold 2 at a really low price during a sale, and I always intended to get to it at some point, but seeing your video about the medic class in that game was what spurred me to finally start! I'm working my way through the first stratum now and I've got 3 HD waiting for me as well. Keep on making videos about this series, man! I'd love to watch more of them.
I get a real kick out of the little Medigirl illustrations in this video. I recently started my journey playing the games from the first to last (because I got stuck in EO1 DS as a kid and never beat it) and because of that game's whack skill balance, that orange-haired Medic ended up being both my party's defensive backbone AND one of my main damage dealers. As someone who likes to make up backstories for my created characters in these games, that was GREAT. She's been my "guild leader" in any of the games I played afterwards ever since. Funnily enough, this series is the only game series I ever got this much into the roleplaying. Something I love about the series so far (I'm on EO2 HD right now, but have finished EO1 HD and played quite a bit of EO4) is how it encourages slowing down and thinking about stuff. Theorycrafting over party combinations is something I only did in a few old RPGs before this series and it's one of the most relaxing things ever. Sometimes, my sessions aren't about progress, but just trying new stuff (because I didn't know about these skill websites you mentioned) and it's just chill. One thing I learned from this video (apart from that there's skill tester websites), is that the Untold games released back to back and after EO4, which surprised me. I hadn't looked into it and thought they had started off the 3DS with Untold 1. I really hope the series manages to continue after the HD collection. Losing the 3DS REALLY hurts it sadly, but man, Etrian Odyssey's party building and dungeon diving is too special to just let it die in my opinion.
I love Etrian Odyssey but I consider myself one of the few (I say few because we do exist) people who genuinely enjoy the small bits of story telling. I love the concept of the world in Etrian Odyssey being a post-fallout esque post-post apocalypse. I like the stories we got in Shinjuku in the first game, the Flying Castle in the Second Game, the Fallen Capital in the fourth Game, and the bonus areas in the untold versions. The world is fascinating and I like the idea of exploring the old world as a kind of an ancient ruin despite being modern looking. I like how each game (besides 5) takes place on a different continent, and how you can create a map of the world with Yggdrasil Trees. North America had the Gotham Yggdrasil (Untold 1) South America has the Aslargan Amber Yggdrasil (Mystery Dungeon and may not be canon) Europe had the Overlord's Yggdrasil (2) Australia had the Fallen Capital Yggdrasil (4) Japan had the First Great Yggdrasil Tree (1) Oceania had the Alien Yggdrasil (3) Which leaves a few questions, such as whether or not Africa has an Yggdrasil, and also where Nexus takes place. That, and whether or not we should even count Aslarga. Also EO5 is a prequel to Humanity, not a Sequel to EO4, soooo there's that.
I do love that EO 5 managed to pull off a more subtle version of the "Lost Shinjuku" reveal in EO 1. You're on a planet, with 2 moons, and a bunch of references to Ares in the Race Skills, and then you head on the Empyrean Path through space towards a "blue planet" that needs Arken's assistance. ... Mars. The game takes place on Mars. This is never shoved in your face (and in fact, the English Localization tried to ignore it for whatever reason), but it's still very clear once you assemble all the puzzle pieces.
It's not forgotten, just really, really underrated. Source: Been a fan since around 2013 (I actually remember looking forward to Fafnir Knight being released).
My favorite RPG series. 😍 I puchased Etrian Odyssey on the ds at a whim and thoroughly enjoyed it despite its shortcoming. These games really utilize the ds and 3ds capabilities to the max because drawinon the map while fighting was so easy. Etrian Odyssey V is my favorite due to the customization in portrait for your members and class are really cool to use.
Funnily enough, I did start with IV. I don’t remember it being that slow, but maybe that’s just because I didn’t have the others as reference points. I do remember holding down the B button to skip through most of the battle text though.
I originally got started with this series watching a friend stream through the first few ones, back about when 5 came out, so that was my first EO. But I can understand why 5 wasn't brought up -- things were further changed only for that game (as the next one was Nexus, which I consider a boring slog) with the subjob system in 3 and 4, and the Basic/Veteran/Master tier skills, replaced with 5's title system (a forked evolution for a given class that focuses on one of the two aspects of a class, like Rover's hound and hawk, Dragoon's tanking and offense, or Botanist's healing and aliment skillsets), and the whole "they added races which polarized options you could take" part of 5 as well.
Nexus was a celebratory title. With 18 or so old classes used anew it was easier to use old systems than adapt the majority of them to a new one especially with them (old classes) never really focusing on more vague designs that could go in two different directions like classes in V
I love the mechanical side of Etrian Odyssey, but what got me into the series is the freedom it grants when making your characters. Because there is no dialogue or pre-written story, you can have all of your characters be whoever you want them to be. I especially liked the character customization options from Nexus and 5, because it allowed me to further emphasize the personalities I saw for my characters through their voice and colors. Ironically, what got me into the series was the demo for Etrian Odyssey Untold, and then the demo for EO4, then the demo for EO2U. I eventually went ahead and bought EOU and EO2U, made several billion runs of EO2U's first stratum, never beat any of the games, and continued to love them and call this my favorite video game series of all time. I think the furthest I've ever gotten in any game was the boss of the 3rd stratum of EO5, so... I should really get back into this series!
I remember picking up Etrian Odyssey on the DS and I was a bit too young and hot headed at that stage of my life to truly appreciate it. I still enjoyed the game, but I definitely feel like I'd enjoy it far more today. I'll definitely be giving it another look.
Personally i don't like to hear 4 being called easy, when i think it's more accurate to say the game is the most fair game in the series up to that point. The skills are more usefull and better described than any prior game. The skill trees are better built so you'll obtain something usefull before having to dump 21 skill points into several skills that serve you no purpose, literal dead weight, just to access the skill you actually do want. That's 21 levels to begin being able to level an actual good skill. You can actually reliably land status and even reapply them whereas before you're living on a prayer if your status lands and if you get it you're praying yet again it lasts more than 1 turn cause if it don't you're not getting that status on that enemy again. Only thing i think really makes the game easy is that through eating you can cover your ass by strengthening your resistances without needing to change your equipment allowing you to really push that glass cannon build you may be rocking.
Sorry but in regard to ailments that's straight up lie. In 4 they behave exactly like they did in 3 with enemies gaining resistance to ailments they were inflicted with. You're unlucky and it wore off early? You will have a harder time inflicting it a second time unless the boss was designed to not gain resistance. The difference is you have a skill to reset it deeper in the Arcanist (i believe tree).
I'm sorry but... no, it kinda is with the shorter dungeons, and it's also kinda less far because of the veteran and master level gates, yeah you know what things do but you also can't get the good stuff until level 20 or 40 and in the rare case you can you can't make the good stuff actually good until then
Well, I'm standing my ground, In regards to ailments I will acknowledge some bias there because until I used the nightseeker and arcanist I never got any use out of ailments in the earlier game. They just feel like they actually land in 4, and I definitely use the arcanist to reset resistances. On the matter of shorter stratums, yes, the main dungeons are about 3 floors each compared to prior titles 1&2 have 5 floors and 3 has 4 each. However, you add the overworld navigation and all the mini dungeons each stratum in 4 has as much if not more content than in the earlier games On the matter of level gates, it's an arbitrary restriction sure but one thing I did when playing 4 was get the skills I want from the novice gate then keep my skill points until I hit the intermediate gate and immediately dump them into what I want, maybe I might have put some points into some novice skill short term to get me up to that point but I rest and redistribute as necessary. Most of the skills I put points in I end up using. Now if you saw in my original post you'll notice the number 21, that number isn't random. I was actually replaying my physical copy of EO3 at the time I made that post. That's the amount of skill points I had to put into an arbalist skill tree to learn double action. I actually wanted it for my gladiator, but even for and arbalist here's the break down: DA needs 4 in front mortar(good skill, BIG damage) and 4 in armor pierce(never touched) Front motor needs 5 in heavy shot(why would I use this?) Armor piercer needs 7 in bolt mastery(giant kill is arbalists biggest damage multiplier, not this) which will unlock heavy shot as well. So if you tally it all up that's 20 skill points plus 1 to actually learn double action with at least 3 skills in there that I never ever use, didn't even bother to pursue it for my gladiator. I currently can't recall EO4 burying a passive this deep. This is the kinda crap they toned down that make the game feel easier than it is cause the fights sure aren't and if you think they are you can always try to beat warped saviour with no chemicals. There's no ingame recognition for it but feel free to call yourself an all American badass when you do, maybe in a future, future playthrough I'll try my hand at it too.
@jive238 I'll give you the shorter stratum because that's fair but not the level gates, it does not matter if I get the points for the thing I actually want for my build if it's behind a later level game unable to be learned even if I can afford it while even the worst skill to max in the old games (pincushion) I can get at level 28 but if I want poison throw arguably the best skill for nightseeker I HAVE to wait until level 40 even thought the cost to max it and get all prerequisites is 14 and with out the gate I could get it at level 12 and if i save points then I have worse skills at low level, in this example 2 points in each ailment and almost the exact same thing is ture for the attacks. I won't call the game as a while bad because A) I've not played and B) I am interested in getting it, but I will call out inherit flaws like how fluff skills are made worse by the level gates
Thanks for highlighting my favorite game series. I always compare new RPGs to these games because its that good and has so many concepts that I want other games to adapt. One piece of advice for new players is to remember that bosses are only a good 30% of the game you face so skilling for aoe attacks and field map skills makes the game as a whole a lot more manageable. Putting points into Resuscitate or Risk Perception/Sneak Attack in Untold 2 go a long way than meager damage increases unless you skill their larger bonus point thresholds. You don't have to fight FOEs on the first time you visit a floor and you can always rest whenever you are stuck on FOEs/5th level bosses.
I played the demo for EO4 back on the 3ds when it came out and I was immediately in love! I remember not really understanding how the mechanics worked but loving the map system. Now I love beating all the hardest bosses with strategy
You're tempting me too hard with these videos. I've never played any EO game other than one of the demos but my academic career is at a huge risk to be hijacked by a JRPG series with great mechanical depth .... You make them seem so fun 😅
As a guy who "just wants to vibe with the characters, environments, and music", as you said, my favorite game was Etrian Odyssey 5 because the colors were way cleaner and it was easiest for me to pick up after hating EO4.
I came across this series on 3ds and really enjoyed the demos, to the point of emulating Etrian Odyssey Untold years later so I could experience the full game. Still didn't come close to finishing it. I have kind of given up on turn based RPGs since I have never finished a turn based RPG in my life(unless you count Pokemon.) This is one of the few I would consider coming back to to try and complete, if I believed I would in fact finish it.
Etrian Odyssey is a great game series the two games that really got me into it was Persona Q and Untold 2. I had gotten 4 but it hadn't clicked for me, the battles and exploration. Then I played PQ and loved it which got me excited for Untold 2 and then I was in it though my god did I play Untold 2 badly. I did the story mode with the preset party but it took so long to use them correctly. Realizing the damage Chloe could pull out with Ailing Slash as a War Magus, I'd thought to make her just a healer. Arianna was on buffs and healing for the whole game. Literally up to the final boss and I couldn't beat him, looked it up and it said "use Link Order 2". I tested it out and holy hell her damage was insane. I'd handicapped myself the whole game haha thankfully I knew better for 5 and Nexus, and I have to swing back to the rest of the games
Etrian Odyssey is what made me really fall in love with atlus games. I started with the first one on the DS and HOLY That is exactly an RPG That I have been looking for for years now after finishing a few Persona, Pokémon and SMT games. I need to think about my moves, my setup, how I use Items and the troup I set up. I love Etrian Odyssey
11:00 The exp was removed from FOEs but the exp bosses give was buffed so the ideal way to grind is to kill all available main story bosses and then rest for 14 days so they respawn. It's very dull to swap to lv1 party for cheap inn cost and sit through the sleep animation but it is easily the best method. That is also the best way to grind money if you try snipe their conditional drops every time.
Seriously need to give this series a genuine shot, I played all of the demos on the 3DS and absolutely loved them! But I wasn't really sold on spending 40$ on an RPG when I was young so I never got the chance to play them for that long.
I never really noticed EO4's slower speed. Maybe because my core strategy was just having my adorable, emo Imperial just explode bosses with one, gigantic Drive attack.
I've never really been able to get into first person dungeon crawlers. I've tried a bunch of them over the years. Then I found SMT Strange Journey and I found it a lot of fun and that led me to the Etrian Odyssey games and they've really sucked me in. The party making and class systems in the games are really awesome. I've been emulating them on my phone and the touch screen stuff's been working well. I think having the built in mapping is actually what's been helping me finally get into these games. I usually find first person dungeon crawlers disorienting. I've been jumping between 4,5, Nexus and OU2. The slowness of 4 is definitely noticeable compared to the others but it's not that bad.
Always remember; status is king. The enemy can’t hit you if you stop their arms from moving, or stop them from casting magic by binding their heads. Panic is also underrated, you pretty much steal the enemy’s turns and force them to do their least effective actions and having them occasionally hit themselves/their allies. The best part is that almost every enemy is susceptible to status. To my knowledge, nothing is completely immune to status and binds can NEVER be nullified naturally. Bully the enemy by making them shit themselves until death. This is a VERY viable strategy. Addendum: binding arms/heads/legs drops the relevant stat to 1. Tec/Technique not only governs magical attack, but also defence. Binding heads means their Tec drops to 1. Which means magical attacks have almost full efficacy granted no resistances are in play.
I do agree Survivalist is pretty Pog in 2U. Probably my favourite rendition of the class. Usually build them as a gathering/Healing class, where I gather materials, sell for Medica, then bonus healing with medica instead of skill points.
Funnily enough, I would recommend different parts of the series based on what you'd like to experience. - EO1 (either version) if you'd like the core Etrian Odyssey experience. Furthermore, EO1 is very simple so it may take a new player by surprise but also doesn't exactly punish poor choices as hard. - EO3 for my personal favorite, though it is much harder to understand than most others in the series. - EO4 for the best experience with the series as a whole. It's got a good storyline without needing a fixed party, enemies aren't spongy like in the games that succeed it, and there are a good few strategies to employ. - Untold 1 or Untold 2 if you'd like a story to guide you through the game. Untold 1 suffers from being a modern-styled Etrian Odyssey while keeping the old-style classes, and Untold 2 suffers from HP bloat though.
wadda hell, crosscode song immediately followed by rabbit & steel? you have good taste. also, while etrian odyssey 1 is not the best to start with, it still has it's merits! it's very interesting to play through the original (and i mean the ds version) to see the many changes that have been made from it, how the series has grown. also, sometimes the jank is fun. a medic's immunize instead of increasing elemental defenses, increases all defense *and* it stacks with the protector's defender skill due to a bug.
5:19 Yo, WHAT!? I've sunk almost 70 hours into Etrian Oddyse 3 on PC and I've only played with a controller. Once you get used to it, it's not really that hard only to use the stick and the buttons for mapping.(thou it still has room for improvement)
Pretty much finished these game's several times over, so much so that i finally migrated to the Nexus(X) overhaul mod. 2 extra classes and rebalanced classes. Its been pretty damn solid so far.
Just beat untold 2 with 5 troubadors, you can make anything work if you try hard enough! I love these games so much, my absolute favorite series after Fire Emblem. More people should give them a go, they're super rewarding!
I started EO with nexus since I was trying to find 3ds jrpgs to play. As people adviced, I played it on expert and died on the tutorial. That put a smile on my face, as I just finished playing lobotomy corp which is also known for its hellish difficulty. That smile was a coping mechanism btw, cause I know I am willingly going to hell again with another game. Anyways, I enjoyed EON so I bought the hd collection to play, and the rest is history. Good games.
I just played through the first stratum in Etrian Odyssey HD and got frustrated during that experience. I'm glad this video said I can try 2 HD and 3 HD without causing any problems.
I started out trying EOU, didn't like it very much, then tried EO4 on a whim and enjoyed it immensely. Then I went back and finished EOU, EO2U, and EO5. I still need to finish EO3 and beat the superboss of EON.
"I do not reccomend starting with EO1 or 2..." ...a bit late for that now. I uhh, 100% EO1 DS. To be fair, I played it on an emulator, and I probably would've given up on 100% if I didn't have save states. Its also the first game in the series I've played to completion. I'm almost done with EO2 now, also going for 100%. I have a lot of issues with EO1 and 2, but I enjoyed them enough to keep going. I'm playing them in order, so EO3 is next; I've been hearing good things about it, so I'm hoping it'll be much better than the first 2.
I did play Etrian Odyssey for the DS and altho its hard to get a grasp of the game i did had a blast with it and at least once every year and still love it
I started with 2 Untold but the first one I actually finished was 1 HD and it wasn't that bad..? Sure it's a bit clunky compered to U2 but the viiiiibes! It's so relaxing! (as if that can't be told for every single one of these games lol)
I can't believe you made a whole ass video introducing players to EO while only OFFHANDEDLY mentioning the music! Rescind your Town Medal, right now >:(
I love this series! EO4 was my first. Took me 6 months to finish (playing on and off.); EOU, and EOU2 are my favorite because of the actual story modes they have. I finished EOU2, but not EOU. I bought EO5, and EONexus, but I haven’t finished them, I need to when I get a new 3DS. I then bought the EO collection on switch so I can experience EO3(learned that EOU/EOU2 were remakes of 1/2 but added the story modes.). Atlas have yet to make a game in this series I have not enjoyed. I even love Persona Q, and want to try Persona Q2 at some point. 😊
My first game was Etrian Odyssey 1 DS when I was a kid, it was traumatic haha I loved these places so much and the little I understood using the translator xD My second game was EO4 3DS, I had trust issues on everything, in EO1 even a leaf could kill you lol
I should add; the switch versions of the first 3 games are much more playable if you pick up a cheap tablet stylus. It's not as precise as the old DS stylus, but its a hell of a lot better than using the buttons or your fingers.
I've been playing Nexus as my first game in the series and I've had some fun with it. Fun team building and grinding has been something i've always liked in games (mostly in rpgs) and playing Etrian Odyssey makes me wish the Persona q games leaned more into fun team building. Maybe a PQ 3 with Persona 1's persona system could be fun to play with lol.
I have started with nexus.Played an hour didnt touch for weeks and played it 15 min again.I am at the one of the first quests.There is a muscly fly that sometimes one shots a ally which is fckn insane.Plus more I move the more there is a chance the mobs spawn.I dont remember the intro but I remember liking the amount of choices for classes and pictures for characters.Plus it has cute interactions with npc,the bartender is va of hakuro from tensura which was a surprise and I like dungeon crawling turn based game but I dont like random encounters with enemies that can one shot from the start of the game.I am going to try keep playing it but it looks tedious.
EO2U is BY FAR the one of the best entry points imo and FINALLY someone who appreciates the survivalist. EOII was my first entry in the series, so you can imagine the pure excitement I felt when EO2U was announced. Beautiful game, fun game mechanics to abuse the hell out of, and the story mode is actually pretty good and a great way for someone to experience an EO game if they feel like they need a set party with set characters.
I do think untold 2's story mode party is a bit less new player friendly than untold 1. In the first untold that party really builds itself, super straight forward. Here are the 3 characters that all deal damage, here's a healer, here's a character that can boost everyone's defense. The 3 dps characters can be built in a way where they all compliment each-other, but if you just build them down there own independent paths, they'll all still be great. Untold 2's story party is a lot more complicated to build. I don't think that's a bad thing, to be clear. But to use Chloe as an example, a new player isn't going to look at her and think "she's going to be great dps if I race to ailing slash and vampire, especially if I make sure Flavio is heavily invested in his debuff skills". Most new players will just make her a mediocre medic.
I mainly know these games through the demos that were available on the 3DS eShop. I don't remember being able to beat any of them... but in fairness, I was, like, 12. Now that I have more than one braincell bouncing around up here, maybe I'll give them another shot in... definitely legal and legitimate ways.
If playing on a modified 3DS, I say play EOIV first so you aren’t spoiled by the speed of the other games! It doesn’t seem that slow as long as you aren’t aware of how fast the other games are. EOIV definitely seems like a community favorite so it’s just not skippable in any way, it also has the best story hands down (which to be fair, is a low bar considering the others don’t have much to go with).
I also agree that it’s the easiest so it’s pretty good in getting people accustomed to the mechanics. The slow speed might actually be good for a beginner here because they can process the turn easier.
EO4 was the first I started with and despite it's flaws I tend to also recommend it because it isn't superb. It gives a good baseline and room in both directions. But that's also based on personal anecdote so I still tend to recommend other EO games. Also, oh shit, someone else that followed Araxxor's Imperial Only run!
personally i couldnt get into Etrian 2 Untold. something about it just made me bounce off of it at or a little after the duo boss fight (i guess it felt too easy). my personal favorite is probably Etrian V, i thoroughly enjoyed that one!
I will also say sense it never came up, 5 is great (my personal favorite), but it is not a good start point. The early game is hard due to you not having mastery yet, and it has the most impactful choices due to mastery effectively doubling the class amount and the races to pick from (albeit there's like 1 mastery that the 2 good options doesn't include the default), that said it also has my personal favorite classes, the dungeon puzzles are great and mastery despite causing some of my problems is great sense it let's you upgrade your default classes into 1 of 2 upgraded ones and with the smaller skill list with only your race base and master skills there's no fluff skills only ones for different builds
Etrian Odyssey is such a good series. You're over here praising EO2U as the best entry point while I'm over in my friend groups saying how EO2 (and by extension 2u) is one of my least favorites due to the extreme lack of stratum variety (ooo boy i love progressing from a forest to a forest) and i find the games without subclassing much less fun to character build in, even with the advent of grimoires in the untolds. But you made really good arguments and that's awesome. God I love this series.
Meanwhile I started with EOIV, and I'm in love with the exploration aspect, and how you made use of the environment to weaken the Bosses (well 3 of the bosses)
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 IV is my favorite, and the only one in the series i have 100%ed. I tell people to start with III or IV myself. The airship exploration, the environmental puzzles, and the fact 4 has some of my favorite classes easily makes it a top EO for me, even if it is slower
@@kyzo3958 The Speed never bothered me. I didn't even know it was considered an issue until now. I absolutely loved Links with my Landsknecht. It's so satisfying to pull those long combos. I don't know if I 100% it, because I didn't beat the final boss's true form, only after weakening it. And yeah, III with the HD version is the last EO I played, and I like it a lot too!
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I ain't counting beating an unweakened true final boss as 100%. I meant I got all those profile badges, all over world treasures, full item codex, etc
If you want to play Etrian Odyssey IV on Citra:
Step 1: Enabling speed-up
Once Etrian Odyssey IV appears in Citra's game select,
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Properties -> Set Emulation Speed to 150%
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Advanced -> DISABLE VSync
- Go to Emulation -> Controls -> Hotkeys -> Toggle Per-Game Speed, assign your hotkey of choice.
Step 2: Changing Resolution
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Internal Resolution, change to your liking
Step 3: Using game mods
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Open Mods Location, drag mods to the folder that pops up.
Recommended mods: EO4:
- Speed Patch (romfs) by violentlycar
- EO4 “Transparency Patch” by GlitchMC
Links to these can be found in the EO Utility Links Google Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit
Troubleshooting:
- Make sure the code(dot)bin file is OUTSIDE the romfs folder, and none of them are contained in any folders past the point you arrived at when you did "Open Mods Location".
- No, Citra does not have support for multiple keys bound to a single button.
- Yeah, sometimes Citra may just crash on you. Not much you can do about it, just make sure your settings are sensible.
You know, since it was my first, I never was bothered by the speed. Even replaying it recently, I didn't even realize.
I always go slowly and methodically, because I am either mapping, or paying attention to FOE movement though...
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I agree here. I started with EO1 and I'm always looking at what the enemy does to figure out what to keep in mind for the next encounter, so I actually really dislike it when actions fly by without getting to see which parts I need to bind, what type of damage the enemy uses, and what skill actually killed me.
I've seen several times that people are caught off-guard by fast-moving combat because it makes them not pay attention to anything.
Just my 2 cents: I'd recommend them Etrian Odyssey Untold before either of your recommendations - simply because they might not want to play the best 1st. If you play the peak first it's only downhill from there.
OR EO4 with the speed patch, which you just taught me about😂 EO4 would be my go-to for recommendations if you could run without a patch. It's by far the slowest EO game, physically. But it also has a lot of mechanics that offer newcomers assistance while allowing vets to break boundaries. So if Untold is too easy then EO4 is there
Editing to adress difficulty and strategy - I honestly think the skill simulators just break the games. If you aren't figuring out strats yourself it just becomes a matter of attrition (getting the skill points) and a coin toss (did you get the right rng on turn 1 - and this is usually " did X survive the turn in order to properly start the setup). I'm just not a fan of guaranteed strats, so I'm recommending based on that mindset. I also don't think using the sim is pushing limits - like obviously it is in a practical sense but in terms of the player themselves doing it, they're just relying on a strategy given to them to get a number they can sorta calculate. That's not the same thing as pushing the limits to me. The people who discovered those strats before the simulators are the limit pushers
Etrian Odyssey is basically a Dungeons & Dragons campaign in the best possible sense. And the DS/3DS is the absolute perfect platform for it - filling in maps yourself is just such an important part of the experience, the automapping of the re-release is just taking away a bit from that, though I recognize they had to do it. I do hope that we'll eventually get a new EO, but I also believe this series would have to go to Phones and Tablets with a touchscreen to really retain what makes it so great. PS: EO3 actually has a good story, and I'm happy it's available for a good price again instead of needing to hunt a $$$$$ original DS cartridge.
I think the Wii U would have been perfect for it too, and I am not sure how to feel about this tbh
Totally, I mean that was the original intent of the games Etrian odyssey is based on and inspired by
I mean, yes and no. Drawing maps on android would suck.
EO is closest to Wizardry (which itself was inspired from DnD).
Because Wizardry codified the DnD experience into computer format that every RPG/JRPG has been using ever since.
To this day I have never realized Eo4 was slower than the other games in the series lol, never was a deal breaker to me tbh
I noticed it right away since I started off with Untold but i've played RPGs that are a lot slower so i'm cool with it.
It's not forgotten! I cry in my corner waiting for any game that is ETRIAN LIKE. I sob im my corner that ETRIAN MYSTERY DUNGEON is stuck on the 3DS when it's my two favorite Dungeon Divers together! 😢
I'll forever be mad that EMD2 is stuck in the 3ds and just in Japanese.
I know some of the simpler RPG games in recent years (e.g. Undernauts) have come close to being Etrian-like, while taking a different artstyle & not wholesale implementing the mapping system (maybe due to copyrighting or something)
But not a single game, not even one, has come close to a Valkyria Chronicles-like. That's what saddens me the most. It's been out for like, over 15 years at this point, and nobody's managed a turn-based strategy using something similar to the BLiTZ system.
I swear, if indie developers manage to replicate the BLiTZ system for their Steam / GOG games & add a level editor for UGCs, it would sell like hotcakes even if the graphics are all 16-bit. There's a huge desire & thirst for more VCs that few have publicly acknowledged
we are a small but dedicated fanbase!
You should check Labyrinth Of Touhou 2
You should give touhou artificial dream in arcadia a shot.
Although its more inspired on megaten, i still recommend it
Besides the wonderful class design, it's also underrated how great the random encounters are. Many JRPGs end up with their enemies being simple fodder, but in EO, they use more interesing tactics (including synergies your own party might use), on top of being fairly strong and challenging your TP management. You also get FOEs doubling as obstacles AND minibosses, so in general, it doesn't feel like only the bosses are the good parts and the game is more consistently entertaining.
EO5 was so peak that game had hell slash
Also like every class had clear and viable build paths wich is super good for newbs
Like im not kidding every class is cool af and viable and its like the only game with multiple viable and interesting tanks and healers. Also it has viable petrify and i think that is cool
Eo5 was a pretty good game, Loved the Dragoon.
Playing it rn, you're 100% right
Hell yeah it's my favorite also. I really really really prefer the branching class paths over the sub class systems. Not only does it make it so every class combo can work together since it gives every class ways to contribute support or offensively, it makes it so classes don't straight up cannibalize another class's role later in the game.
The different races also lets you use a few of the classes in very different ways, so if you play around with your party setup you can build some interesting teams.
The biggest thing with Etrain for me, which you only barely touched on: Engage with the story. "But these games don't have much story!" Exactly. Just like your build is an open question, and your map is an empty sheet of graph paper, the story is also a blank script for you to fill in as you see fit. The story is *just* extant enough that you have a shape to conform to. It's like a coloring book for your story. Don't just look at your party as a stat block and a list of skills and skill point allocations. Who are they? What are they doing here in the labyrinth? Why are they here? How do thye interact with eachother? How do they interact with the town? Do they have friends or family who aren't in the team or npcs? the game is asking you, begging you, to be creative in so many ways, and you do yourself a disservice to not engage with all of it I think. Whether you write a full on fanfic or you just have these little interactions in your head, your time with Etrian will be SO much more fun if you think of your party as characters. Be creative with this game in every way you can be, and you'll have a great time, I promise.
I started with Etrian Odyssey Untold way back when after playing the demo for a little while, and I had a great time playing through the story mode in the full game. I picked up Untold 2 at a really low price during a sale, and I always intended to get to it at some point, but seeing your video about the medic class in that game was what spurred me to finally start! I'm working my way through the first stratum now and I've got 3 HD waiting for me as well. Keep on making videos about this series, man! I'd love to watch more of them.
One of my favorite Fire Emblem UA-camrs is making videos about another of my favorite series? Sign me up, let's go!
Yeah this was a super cool surprise for me, too lmao
My most favorite series and the reason why I love the ds era and I got all the games.
Really hope for more games though like the elusive eo3u.
I mean they are working on the next numbered entry plus we will see if they wanted to do Untold 3 for Switch and next switch console.
I get a real kick out of the little Medigirl illustrations in this video. I recently started my journey playing the games from the first to last (because I got stuck in EO1 DS as a kid and never beat it) and because of that game's whack skill balance, that orange-haired Medic ended up being both my party's defensive backbone AND one of my main damage dealers. As someone who likes to make up backstories for my created characters in these games, that was GREAT. She's been my "guild leader" in any of the games I played afterwards ever since. Funnily enough, this series is the only game series I ever got this much into the roleplaying.
Something I love about the series so far (I'm on EO2 HD right now, but have finished EO1 HD and played quite a bit of EO4) is how it encourages slowing down and thinking about stuff. Theorycrafting over party combinations is something I only did in a few old RPGs before this series and it's one of the most relaxing things ever. Sometimes, my sessions aren't about progress, but just trying new stuff (because I didn't know about these skill websites you mentioned) and it's just chill.
One thing I learned from this video (apart from that there's skill tester websites), is that the Untold games released back to back and after EO4, which surprised me. I hadn't looked into it and thought they had started off the 3DS with Untold 1.
I really hope the series manages to continue after the HD collection. Losing the 3DS REALLY hurts it sadly, but man, Etrian Odyssey's party building and dungeon diving is too special to just let it die in my opinion.
I love Etrian Odyssey but I consider myself one of the few (I say few because we do exist) people who genuinely enjoy the small bits of story telling.
I love the concept of the world in Etrian Odyssey being a post-fallout esque post-post apocalypse. I like the stories we got in Shinjuku in the first game, the Flying Castle in the Second Game, the Fallen Capital in the fourth Game, and the bonus areas in the untold versions. The world is fascinating and I like the idea of exploring the old world as a kind of an ancient ruin despite being modern looking. I like how each game (besides 5) takes place on a different continent, and how you can create a map of the world with Yggdrasil Trees.
North America had the Gotham Yggdrasil (Untold 1)
South America has the Aslargan Amber Yggdrasil (Mystery Dungeon and may not be canon)
Europe had the Overlord's Yggdrasil (2)
Australia had the Fallen Capital Yggdrasil (4)
Japan had the First Great Yggdrasil Tree (1)
Oceania had the Alien Yggdrasil (3)
Which leaves a few questions, such as whether or not Africa has an Yggdrasil, and also where Nexus takes place. That, and whether or not we should even count Aslarga. Also EO5 is a prequel to Humanity, not a Sequel to EO4, soooo there's that.
I do love that EO 5 managed to pull off a more subtle version of the "Lost Shinjuku" reveal in EO 1. You're on a planet, with 2 moons, and a bunch of references to Ares in the Race Skills, and then you head on the Empyrean Path through space towards a "blue planet" that needs Arken's assistance.
...
Mars. The game takes place on Mars. This is never shoved in your face (and in fact, the English Localization tried to ignore it for whatever reason), but it's still very clear once you assemble all the puzzle pieces.
Easily my favorite games of all time when it comes to player character and party customization.
It's not forgotten, just really, really underrated.
Source: Been a fan since around 2013 (I actually remember looking forward to Fafnir Knight being released).
My favorite RPG series. 😍 I puchased Etrian Odyssey on the ds at a whim and thoroughly enjoyed it despite its shortcoming. These games really utilize the ds and 3ds capabilities to the max because drawinon the map while fighting was so easy. Etrian Odyssey V is my favorite due to the customization in portrait for your members and class are really cool to use.
Funnily enough, I did start with IV. I don’t remember it being that slow, but maybe that’s just because I didn’t have the others as reference points. I do remember holding down the B button to skip through most of the battle text though.
I originally got started with this series watching a friend stream through the first few ones, back about when 5 came out, so that was my first EO. But I can understand why 5 wasn't brought up -- things were further changed only for that game (as the next one was Nexus, which I consider a boring slog) with the subjob system in 3 and 4, and the Basic/Veteran/Master tier skills, replaced with 5's title system (a forked evolution for a given class that focuses on one of the two aspects of a class, like Rover's hound and hawk, Dragoon's tanking and offense, or Botanist's healing and aliment skillsets), and the whole "they added races which polarized options you could take" part of 5 as well.
Nexus was a celebratory title. With 18 or so old classes used anew it was easier to use old systems than adapt the majority of them to a new one especially with them (old classes) never really focusing on more vague designs that could go in two different directions like classes in V
? the races could be any class you wanted by only losing like 3 levels
I love the mechanical side of Etrian Odyssey, but what got me into the series is the freedom it grants when making your characters. Because there is no dialogue or pre-written story, you can have all of your characters be whoever you want them to be. I especially liked the character customization options from Nexus and 5, because it allowed me to further emphasize the personalities I saw for my characters through their voice and colors. Ironically, what got me into the series was the demo for Etrian Odyssey Untold, and then the demo for EO4, then the demo for EO2U. I eventually went ahead and bought EOU and EO2U, made several billion runs of EO2U's first stratum, never beat any of the games, and continued to love them and call this my favorite video game series of all time. I think the furthest I've ever gotten in any game was the boss of the 3rd stratum of EO5, so... I should really get back into this series!
I remember picking up Etrian Odyssey on the DS and I was a bit too young and hot headed at that stage of my life to truly appreciate it.
I still enjoyed the game, but I definitely feel like I'd enjoy it far more today. I'll definitely be giving it another look.
Personally i don't like to hear 4 being called easy, when i think it's more accurate to say the game is the most fair game in the series up to that point. The skills are more usefull and better described than any prior game. The skill trees are better built so you'll obtain something usefull before having to dump 21 skill points into several skills that serve you no purpose, literal dead weight, just to access the skill you actually do want. That's 21 levels to begin being able to level an actual good skill. You can actually reliably land status and even reapply them whereas before you're living on a prayer if your status lands and if you get it you're praying yet again it lasts more than 1 turn cause if it don't you're not getting that status on that enemy again. Only thing i think really makes the game easy is that through eating you can cover your ass by strengthening your resistances without needing to change your equipment allowing you to really push that glass cannon build you may be rocking.
Sorry but in regard to ailments that's straight up lie. In 4 they behave exactly like they did in 3 with enemies gaining resistance to ailments they were inflicted with. You're unlucky and it wore off early? You will have a harder time inflicting it a second time unless the boss was designed to not gain resistance. The difference is you have a skill to reset it deeper in the Arcanist (i believe tree).
It’s easy unfortunately
I'm sorry but... no, it kinda is with the shorter dungeons, and it's also kinda less far because of the veteran and master level gates, yeah you know what things do but you also can't get the good stuff until level 20 or 40 and in the rare case you can you can't make the good stuff actually good until then
Well, I'm standing my ground,
In regards to ailments I will acknowledge some bias there because until I used the nightseeker and arcanist I never got any use out of ailments in the earlier game. They just feel like they actually land in 4, and I definitely use the arcanist to reset resistances.
On the matter of shorter stratums, yes, the main dungeons are about 3 floors each compared to prior titles 1&2 have 5 floors and 3 has 4 each. However, you add the overworld navigation and all the mini dungeons each stratum in 4 has as much if not more content than in the earlier games
On the matter of level gates, it's an arbitrary restriction sure but one thing I did when playing 4 was get the skills I want from the novice gate then keep my skill points until I hit the intermediate gate and immediately dump them into what I want, maybe I might have put some points into some novice skill short term to get me up to that point but I rest and redistribute as necessary. Most of the skills I put points in I end up using. Now if you saw in my original post you'll notice the number 21, that number isn't random. I was actually replaying my physical copy of EO3 at the time I made that post. That's the amount of skill points I had to put into an arbalist skill tree to learn double action. I actually wanted it for my gladiator, but even for and arbalist here's the break down: DA needs 4 in front mortar(good skill, BIG damage) and 4 in armor pierce(never touched)
Front motor needs 5 in heavy shot(why would I use this?)
Armor piercer needs 7 in bolt mastery(giant kill is arbalists biggest damage multiplier, not this) which will unlock heavy shot as well.
So if you tally it all up that's 20 skill points plus 1 to actually learn double action with at least 3 skills in there that I never ever use, didn't even bother to pursue it for my gladiator. I currently can't recall EO4 burying a passive this deep. This is the kinda crap they toned down that make the game feel easier than it is cause the fights sure aren't and if you think they are you can always try to beat warped saviour with no chemicals. There's no ingame recognition for it but feel free to call yourself an all American badass when you do, maybe in a future, future playthrough I'll try my hand at it too.
@jive238 I'll give you the shorter stratum because that's fair but not the level gates, it does not matter if I get the points for the thing I actually want for my build if it's behind a later level game unable to be learned even if I can afford it while even the worst skill to max in the old games (pincushion) I can get at level 28 but if I want poison throw arguably the best skill for nightseeker I HAVE to wait until level 40 even thought the cost to max it and get all prerequisites is 14 and with out the gate I could get it at level 12 and if i save points then I have worse skills at low level, in this example 2 points in each ailment and almost the exact same thing is ture for the attacks. I won't call the game as a while bad because A) I've not played and B) I am interested in getting it, but I will call out inherit flaws like how fluff skills are made worse by the level gates
Thanks for highlighting my favorite game series. I always compare new RPGs to these games because its that good and has so many concepts that I want other games to adapt.
One piece of advice for new players is to remember that bosses are only a good 30% of the game you face so skilling for aoe attacks and field map skills makes the game as a whole a lot more manageable. Putting points into Resuscitate or Risk Perception/Sneak Attack in Untold 2 go a long way than meager damage increases unless you skill their larger bonus point thresholds. You don't have to fight FOEs on the first time you visit a floor and you can always rest whenever you are stuck on FOEs/5th level bosses.
-I still spec for bosses.-
I played the demo for EO4 back on the 3ds when it came out and I was immediately in love! I remember not really understanding how the mechanics worked but loving the map system. Now I love beating all the hardest bosses with strategy
You're tempting me too hard with these videos. I've never played any EO game other than one of the demos but my academic career is at a huge risk to be hijacked by a JRPG series with great mechanical depth .... You make them seem so fun 😅
As a guy who "just wants to vibe with the characters, environments, and music", as you said, my favorite game was Etrian Odyssey 5 because the colors were way cleaner and it was easiest for me to pick up after hating EO4.
I came across this series on 3ds and really enjoyed the demos, to the point of emulating Etrian Odyssey Untold years later so I could experience the full game. Still didn't come close to finishing it. I have kind of given up on turn based RPGs since I have never finished a turn based RPG in my life(unless you count Pokemon.) This is one of the few I would consider coming back to to try and complete, if I believed I would in fact finish it.
Love the character designs on these always wanted to play em, was torn between untold 1 or 4
love your stuff! thanks for making a video on the interesting mechanics of the series
Man! I love the Etrian Odyssey franchise! My best friend actually gifted me the entire Origins collection, for this Christmas!
Let's gooo, another EO video! Can't wait to watch this!
Etrian Odyssey is a great game series
the two games that really got me into it was Persona Q and Untold 2. I had gotten 4 but it hadn't clicked for me, the battles and exploration. Then I played PQ and loved it which got me excited for Untold 2 and then I was in it
though my god did I play Untold 2 badly. I did the story mode with the preset party but it took so long to use them correctly. Realizing the damage Chloe could pull out with Ailing Slash as a War Magus, I'd thought to make her just a healer. Arianna was on buffs and healing for the whole game. Literally up to the final boss and I couldn't beat him, looked it up and it said "use Link Order 2". I tested it out and holy hell her damage was insane. I'd handicapped myself the whole game haha thankfully I knew better for 5 and Nexus, and I have to swing back to the rest of the games
Etrian Odyssey is what made me really fall in love with atlus games. I started with the first one on the DS and HOLY That is exactly an RPG That I have been looking for for years now after finishing a few Persona, Pokémon and SMT games. I need to think about my moves, my setup, how I use Items and the troup I set up. I love Etrian Odyssey
Your vid on EO2U got me into the series and I love it so far, keep up the good work 🙏
11:00 The exp was removed from FOEs but the exp bosses give was buffed so the ideal way to grind is to kill all available main story bosses and then rest for 14 days so they respawn. It's very dull to swap to lv1 party for cheap inn cost and sit through the sleep animation but it is easily the best method.
That is also the best way to grind money if you try snipe their conditional drops every time.
Agreed, chimaera rare drop is also easy to get by poisoning him, it sell for a lot of yen too. Which helps a lot in early game.
I still stand by starting with 1 and 2, since they're very hard to get into after playing the latter ones. But, I'm also an OG 2 enjoyer.
Someone: Mentions Etrian Odyssey
Me: Nice
These games are pure gems. I went through EO1 and 4. It was awesome.
Seriously need to give this series a genuine shot, I played all of the demos on the 3DS and absolutely loved them!
But I wasn't really sold on spending 40$ on an RPG when I was young so I never got the chance to play them for that long.
Yay the best channel about Eo series and FE. When a video of team building and skill points of Eo?? Yes please!!!
I still remember back im the day I would respec every few floors to realign my party's EXP curves.
I never really noticed EO4's slower speed. Maybe because my core strategy was just having my adorable, emo Imperial just explode bosses with one, gigantic Drive attack.
Persona Q and Q2 were my introduction to an Etrian Odyssey style game.
I've never really been able to get into first person dungeon crawlers. I've tried a bunch of them over the years. Then I found SMT Strange Journey and I found it a lot of fun and that led me to the Etrian Odyssey games and they've really sucked me in. The party making and class systems in the games are really awesome. I've been emulating them on my phone and the touch screen stuff's been working well. I think having the built in mapping is actually what's been helping me finally get into these games. I usually find first person dungeon crawlers disorienting. I've been jumping between 4,5, Nexus and OU2. The slowness of 4 is definitely noticeable compared to the others but it's not that bad.
I just finished EO1 again today. I love this series so much!
Always remember; status is king.
The enemy can’t hit you if you stop their arms from moving, or stop them from casting magic by binding their heads.
Panic is also underrated, you pretty much steal the enemy’s turns and force them to do their least effective actions and having them occasionally hit themselves/their allies.
The best part is that almost every enemy is susceptible to status. To my knowledge, nothing is completely immune to status and binds can NEVER be nullified naturally.
Bully the enemy by making them shit themselves until death. This is a VERY viable strategy.
Addendum: binding arms/heads/legs drops the relevant stat to 1.
Tec/Technique not only governs magical attack, but also defence.
Binding heads means their Tec drops to 1.
Which means magical attacks have almost full efficacy granted no resistances are in play.
I do agree Survivalist is pretty Pog in 2U.
Probably my favourite rendition of the class. Usually build them as a gathering/Healing class, where I gather materials, sell for Medica, then bonus healing with medica instead of skill points.
I only know the series from reading IGN reviews back in the day. The theorycrafting element absolutely looks up my alley.
Funnily enough, I would recommend different parts of the series based on what you'd like to experience.
- EO1 (either version) if you'd like the core Etrian Odyssey experience. Furthermore, EO1 is very simple so it may take a new player by surprise but also doesn't exactly punish poor choices as hard.
- EO3 for my personal favorite, though it is much harder to understand than most others in the series.
- EO4 for the best experience with the series as a whole. It's got a good storyline without needing a fixed party, enemies aren't spongy like in the games that succeed it, and there are a good few strategies to employ.
- Untold 1 or Untold 2 if you'd like a story to guide you through the game. Untold 1 suffers from being a modern-styled Etrian Odyssey while keeping the old-style classes, and Untold 2 suffers from HP bloat though.
The "HP bloat" everyone complained about was because of Fafnir and his skills wasn't it?
@@fenris91 Partially, yes. The Millennium Girl also had the issue, but that was mostly due to rebalancing.
wadda hell, crosscode song immediately followed by rabbit & steel? you have good taste.
also, while etrian odyssey 1 is not the best to start with, it still has it's merits! it's very interesting to play through the original (and i mean the ds version) to see the many changes that have been made from it, how the series has grown.
also, sometimes the jank is fun. a medic's immunize instead of increasing elemental defenses, increases all defense *and* it stacks with the protector's defender skill due to a bug.
5:19 Yo, WHAT!? I've sunk almost 70 hours into Etrian Oddyse 3 on PC and I've only played with a controller. Once you get used to it, it's not really that hard only to use the stick and the buttons for mapping.(thou it still has room for improvement)
rabbit and steel and one step osts 🗣🗣 also etrian odyssey is so cool seeming but ive never really tried it, maybe ill finally hop in
Pretty much finished these game's several times over, so much so that i finally migrated to the Nexus(X) overhaul mod. 2 extra classes and rebalanced classes. Its been pretty damn solid so far.
love these games
days upon days of running around just meandering, and 3 is still goated
Just beat untold 2 with 5 troubadors, you can make anything work if you try hard enough!
I love these games so much, my absolute favorite series after Fire Emblem. More people should give them a go, they're super rewarding!
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I just knew a character named "Palmer" was gonna use the Alchemist Palm skills.
How funny of UA-cam to reccommend me this video after beating Metaphor
Ayo, more Etrian content? I'm eating good.
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Oof, Benny. Poor Benny. He didn't know what he was getting into.
CrossCode AND Rabbit and Steel soundtracks in the background. Are you living in my head or something?
I started EO with nexus since I was trying to find 3ds jrpgs to play. As people adviced, I played it on expert and died on the tutorial. That put a smile on my face, as I just finished playing lobotomy corp which is also known for its hellish difficulty. That smile was a coping mechanism btw, cause I know I am willingly going to hell again with another game. Anyways, I enjoyed EON so I bought the hd collection to play, and the rest is history. Good games.
I just played through the first stratum in Etrian Odyssey HD and got frustrated during that experience. I'm glad this video said I can try 2 HD and 3 HD without causing any problems.
I should really play this series more
I love Etrian Odyssey, I started with EOU1 and then expanded from there. EO5 is by far my favorite.
I started out trying EOU, didn't like it very much, then tried EO4 on a whim and enjoyed it immensely. Then I went back and finished EOU, EO2U, and EO5. I still need to finish EO3 and beat the superboss of EON.
See, my favorites were 3 and 5 so I was super excited about 3 HD.
"I do not reccomend starting with EO1 or 2..."
...a bit late for that now.
I uhh, 100% EO1 DS. To be fair, I played it on an emulator, and I probably would've given up on 100% if I didn't have save states. Its also the first game in the series I've played to completion.
I'm almost done with EO2 now, also going for 100%. I have a lot of issues with EO1 and 2, but I enjoyed them enough to keep going. I'm playing them in order, so EO3 is next; I've been hearing good things about it, so I'm hoping it'll be much better than the first 2.
Omg Rabbit and Steel music
I got addicted to Venus Blood and never lookee back.
I did play Etrian Odyssey for the DS and altho its hard to get a grasp of the game i did had a blast with it and at least once every year and still love it
I started with 2 Untold but the first one I actually finished was 1 HD and it wasn't that bad..? Sure it's a bit clunky compered to U2 but the viiiiibes! It's so relaxing! (as if that can't be told for every single one of these games lol)
I can't believe you made a whole ass video introducing players to EO while only OFFHANDEDLY mentioning the music! Rescind your Town Medal, right now >:(
EO definitely needs the untold games ported to the switch
I love this series! EO4 was my first. Took me 6 months to finish (playing on and off.); EOU, and EOU2 are my favorite because of the actual story modes they have. I finished EOU2, but not EOU.
I bought EO5, and EONexus, but I haven’t finished them, I need to when I get a new 3DS.
I then bought the EO collection on switch so I can experience EO3(learned that EOU/EOU2 were remakes of 1/2 but added the story modes.).
Atlas have yet to make a game in this series I have not enjoyed. I even love Persona Q, and want to try Persona Q2 at some point. 😊
Ah yes, the Spinoff series based on Persona Q. My favourite.
Persona Q, aka "What if Persona had actually good, fun gameplay?" You love to see it!
so good that it got the 6th game before persona does
🤔
I tried to start with 4 on hardware and dropped it, and that really made sense. Will try with another!
I started with 4, but I had a guide nearby.
Once you're more used to how EO works, it's actually a very rewarding title!
My first game was Etrian Odyssey 1 DS when I was a kid, it was traumatic haha I loved these places so much and the little I understood using the translator xD
My second game was EO4 3DS, I had trust issues on everything, in EO1 even a leaf could kill you lol
I should add; the switch versions of the first 3 games are much more playable if you pick up a cheap tablet stylus. It's not as precise as the old DS stylus, but its a hell of a lot better than using the buttons or your fingers.
I've been playing Nexus as my first game in the series and I've had some fun with it. Fun team building and grinding has been something i've always liked in games (mostly in rpgs) and playing Etrian Odyssey makes me wish the Persona q games leaned more into fun team building. Maybe a PQ 3 with Persona 1's persona system could be fun to play with lol.
I have started with nexus.Played an hour didnt touch for weeks and played it 15 min again.I am at the one of the first quests.There is a muscly fly that sometimes one shots a ally which is fckn insane.Plus more I move the more there is a chance the mobs spawn.I dont remember the intro but I remember liking the amount of choices for classes and pictures for characters.Plus it has cute interactions with npc,the bartender is va of hakuro from tensura which was a surprise and I like dungeon crawling turn based game but I dont like random encounters with enemies that can one shot from the start of the game.I am going to try keep playing it but it looks tedious.
EO2U is BY FAR the one of the best entry points imo and FINALLY someone who appreciates the survivalist. EOII was my first entry in the series, so you can imagine the pure excitement I felt when EO2U was announced. Beautiful game, fun game mechanics to abuse the hell out of, and the story mode is actually pretty good and a great way for someone to experience an EO game if they feel like they need a set party with set characters.
I do think untold 2's story mode party is a bit less new player friendly than untold 1. In the first untold that party really builds itself, super straight forward. Here are the 3 characters that all deal damage, here's a healer, here's a character that can boost everyone's defense. The 3 dps characters can be built in a way where they all compliment each-other, but if you just build them down there own independent paths, they'll all still be great.
Untold 2's story party is a lot more complicated to build. I don't think that's a bad thing, to be clear. But to use Chloe as an example, a new player isn't going to look at her and think "she's going to be great dps if I race to ailing slash and vampire, especially if I make sure Flavio is heavily invested in his debuff skills". Most new players will just make her a mediocre medic.
this is my second jrpg i’m going to play… i’m terrified
Note, there is no Skill Sim for EO2.
it was never made...
And Skill Sims aren't really updated for HD exactly, last I remember.
docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit
We actually still missing two games to actually end the whole game story franchise.
I think they are well aware of that and doesn't know what to do...
Watchin' this again so the algo says hello
Are yes the game that has 5+ titles and has just seen a rerelease to new platforms, not even a year ago.
I mainly know these games through the demos that were available on the 3DS eShop. I don't remember being able to beat any of them... but in fairness, I was, like, 12. Now that I have more than one braincell bouncing around up here, maybe I'll give them another shot in... definitely legal and legitimate ways.
The sad day for those like me who can’t get the 3DS emulator… because this looks so fun
If playing on a modified 3DS, I say play EOIV first so you aren’t spoiled by the speed of the other games! It doesn’t seem that slow as long as you aren’t aware of how fast the other games are. EOIV definitely seems like a community favorite so it’s just not skippable in any way, it also has the best story hands down (which to be fair, is a low bar considering the others don’t have much to go with).
I also agree that it’s the easiest so it’s pretty good in getting people accustomed to the mechanics. The slow speed might actually be good for a beginner here because they can process the turn easier.
EO4 was the first I started with and despite it's flaws I tend to also recommend it because it isn't superb. It gives a good baseline and room in both directions.
But that's also based on personal anecdote so I still tend to recommend other EO games.
Also, oh shit, someone else that followed Araxxor's Imperial Only run!
thanks for the video
Hey I recognize some of those names.
I really hope they bring the 3ds games to the switch and steam soon
I'd love to hear you're thoughts on Etrian Odyssey Nexus! I've just started a playthrough and can't find a lot of vids on it.
This is my favorite series 2❤❤❤❤
I have had all 3ds EO games since like 2017 or 2018? Haven't played theme at all just got theme when on a really good sale
personally i couldnt get into Etrian 2 Untold. something about it just made me bounce off of it at or a little after the duo boss fight (i guess it felt too easy). my personal favorite is probably Etrian V, i thoroughly enjoyed that one!
I will also say sense it never came up, 5 is great (my personal favorite), but it is not a good start point. The early game is hard due to you not having mastery yet, and it has the most impactful choices due to mastery effectively doubling the class amount and the races to pick from (albeit there's like 1 mastery that the 2 good options doesn't include the default), that said it also has my personal favorite classes, the dungeon puzzles are great and mastery despite causing some of my problems is great sense it let's you upgrade your default classes into 1 of 2 upgraded ones and with the smaller skill list with only your race base and master skills there's no fluff skills only ones for different builds
I got into blobbers recently with stranger of sword city but i found out of EO, touched it and i'm struggling to go bact to SoSC.
UNTOLD 3 WHEN?
Unfortunately Japan hated the Untold games...
RABBIT AND STEEL BGM!!!
Etrian Odyssey is such a good series. You're over here praising EO2U as the best entry point while I'm over in my friend groups saying how EO2 (and by extension 2u) is one of my least favorites due to the extreme lack of stratum variety (ooo boy i love progressing from a forest to a forest) and i find the games without subclassing much less fun to character build in, even with the advent of grimoires in the untolds. But you made really good arguments and that's awesome. God I love this series.
Meanwhile I started with EOIV, and I'm in love with the exploration aspect, and how you made use of the environment to weaken the Bosses (well 3 of the bosses)
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 IV is my favorite, and the only one in the series i have 100%ed. I tell people to start with III or IV myself. The airship exploration, the environmental puzzles, and the fact 4 has some of my favorite classes easily makes it a top EO for me, even if it is slower
@@kyzo3958 The Speed never bothered me. I didn't even know it was considered an issue until now.
I absolutely loved Links with my Landsknecht. It's so satisfying to pull those long combos.
I don't know if I 100% it, because I didn't beat the final boss's true form, only after weakening it.
And yeah, III with the HD version is the last EO I played, and I like it a lot too!
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I ain't counting beating an unweakened true final boss as 100%. I meant I got all those profile badges, all over world treasures, full item codex, etc
@@kyzo3958 OK! Well, congrats!
Yeah, I never 100% a EO game then