I love the Williams/Bally tables, they are like art, recreated to perfection (except for the censorship). They bring back memories of me playing these as a kid, and the arcade mode almost feels like a real table. Great review
They're baaaaaaack with three new Williams Tables! Dr. Dude & His Excellent Ray (Addictive, but very hard. Also, too...much....80s) Space Station (Don't like it. I find it really boring) Funhouse (One of my favorites and I love that Mortal Kombat's Ed Boon voices Rudy)
Well, to me, it's like this: 1-Medieval Madness 2-Tales of the Arabian Nights 3-Theatre of Magic 4-Attack from Mars 5-Monster Bash 6-Fish Tales 7-Junkyard 8-Creature from the Black Lagoon 9-Red & Ted's Road Show 10-Cirqus Voltaire 11-White Water 12-The Getaway 13-Champion Pub 14-No Good Gofers 15-Safe Cracker 16-Hurricane 17-The Party Zone 18-Black Rose
Great Show! Screen is a treat. Amazing how Our opinion on a game can quickly change after a good session on it. Looking forward to more Crow content this year. Beauty Crowman.
Nice list. I’d personally put Cirqus Voltaire #1 and Medieval Madness #2. I grew up playing Cirqus Voltaire a lot and they really did a great job with it.
Totally agree with all of your review scores, you hit the nail on the head! I also purchased the three packs you rated as the best (volume 1, volume 5, and the monster pack), as they had the best tables I enjoyed. Thanks for your reviews!
I only played two pinballs from that list on the real machines: Cirqus Voltaire and Roadshow. The accuracy of the physics is brilliant, way better than Pinball Arcade. I'm so glad Zen can finally release Williams/Bally tables, they make a fantastic job, and you just can feel they are true pinball enthusiasts.
@@CrowContinuum You're totally right, somehow it keeps getting better and better (I play Pinball FX2 since its release on Xbox 360, and it was already very good then). Anyways, thanks for your amazing videos, it's always top-notch content.
I got all tables. But my personal ranking looks quite different :) 1. Theatre of Magic (by far my favorite table!) 2. Medieval Madness (so funny) 3. Cirqus Voltaire (crazy and funny) 4. Road Show (great voice comments, great music, cool gameplay) 5. Attack from Mars (quite straightforward game play) 6. Monster Bash (very funny, but somehow repetitive) 7. Tales of The Arabian Nights (quite diversified gameplay) 8. Creature from the Black Lagoon 9. White Water (ok but not as good as I hoped) 10. Champions Pub (funny!) 11. No Good Golfers (too difficult) 12. Hurricane (not as bad as I thought) 13. The Getaway Highspeed II (quite boring to me and full of clichés ) 14. Fish Tales 15. Junk Yard (funny but boring) 16. Black Rose 17. The Party Zone (very quirky... and annoying sound) 18. Safe Cracker (very strange concept)
My local pinball pub has Medieval Madness and Black Lagoon! I love playing Medieval! I had no idea that FX3 had that!!! I never looked at the williams tables list... Guess what I'm going to have to get next 😎 I'll try your number 1 as well 😁
@@leafsfanforever2896 They haven't released anything new to the game for a couple of years now. It' pretty much dead since Farsight still won't mention any updates about it apart from free tables of the month.
@@Cyberbrickmaster1986 likely because of licensing issues considering that the majority of Data East/Sega/Stern tables are licensed. Pretty much all of them
Pinball arcade was great but I noticed an update around 2017 and it messed up the physics or something It never felt right anymore And no it wasn’t just me wanting to play on more modern 3D style tables I loved Taxi and Diner plus Indy 500 So many . Now I’m full FX3 FX2 VR etc
Great analysis of these tables as always! While it is a bit disappointing that Zen haven't tackled any unreleased Williams tables yet, the sheer quality of these classics is undeniable.
Your opinion is refreshing to hear. I absolutely love Champion Pub. Definitely in my top 3 together with Creature and White Water. I love the way Champion Pub incorporates boxing/fighting/training into pinball but I know aht you mean about getting unlucky. I just think the table is very clever and a variety of shots to go for. Creature and Water I feel skill plays a big part and when you drain it's usually the players fault. Skill pays.
Well, they've only just got into emulating the alpha numeric tables, so I think they will focus more on them before expanding with other legacy TPA tables with a Dot Matrix display, especially with things that effect their spot in Pinball FX 3 as of now. Cactus Canyon is an unfinished table, so I suspect they may want to track down a hacked version that's actually finished before emulating it. Who Dunnit contains content involving murder and gambling, Jack*Bot is all about gambling, Scared Stiff stars a character best known for reasons that are too sexist for E10+, and a large number of other Williams/Bally Dot Matrix tables in TPA are tied with licenses with some harder to obtain than others. Hopefully they will be able to acquire those rights one way or another in the future and make a compromise to have Teen rated tables, by making a separate stand alone collection for consoles that removes the censorship and allows the addition of PG13 type tables as an exclusive to that collection.
I recently discovered your channel and I have to say that im loving it! And whats more funny is that you look like my uncle haha, feels like im watching my uncle talking about pinball. Anyway you got a new sub! Cheers from Argentina :)
Just found your channel and subbed. The only thing I hate about Zen doing these now is that I’ve already been buying the same tables over and over for over a decade and now, apparently, I’m gonna be rebuying all the pinball arcade stuff, lol. It’s really impressive that you’ve scored all the achievements for those. That takes wizard level skill, for sure. Monster Bash is my favorite, btw.
Crow Pinball I’m glad they are giving us these again. As much time as I have spent with Farsighted tables I have to say they feel a bit heavy to me... which is probably more realistic, I don’t know. I suck at real life pinball because I never get a chance to practice anywhere. But I can usually play on Zen tables much better. Medieval Madness is a good example. Always struggled to get the wizard mode in PA, picked it up just screwing around in FX3 and almost immediately did it, on my first ball with 2 extras awarded nonetheless. I can’t explain it, it’s just a hair easier.
Great video! I agree with the rankings of your packs! I have some differences in rankings of the tables in general though, but I’m a new pinball enthusiast and am really enjoying my experience so far, my favorite table has to be no good goffers, challenging (just like golf) but also so much fun to figure out how the table works and make the most of your shots
Crow, Great look at the Zen Williams pinball tables and also, WHAT GREAT TIMING! We'll have to see if your top 10 makes it into the upcoming Arcade1up mini-pin! It's going to have ten of the Williams Zen tables! We know it'll at least have one of your top 10 picks, Attack From Mars, because that's the styling of the cabinet. I love the fact it'll have a real DMD and actual solenoids, so you'll be able to feel the action! And unlike the recent Toy Shock pin, which used buttons to nudge the table (nothing wrong with that, of course), it will instead have a built in accelerometer, so you'll be able to push the actual cabinet to make nudges! Now don't get me wrong, I like my Haunted House Toy Shock, but it will be cool to have some Williams tables in a Pinball form factor. From what they showed at CES, it looked fantastic and they've said it will retail for around $500 - $700. I personally fell in love with Tales Of Arabian Nights when it was the free pack-in with Pinball Arcade. I had so much fun playing it that it took awhile before I actually started buying Pinball Arcade tables. And of course, I can't get enough of Attack From Mars! Thanks for the vid! vgv
MutantAli3n, Pinball Arcade, the PC Edition on Steam, is my Jam! And do I think Pinball Arcade is dead? That's actually a good question. I guess my answer would be, I hope not. I find the pinball physics in Pinball Arcade, at least all the titles in their main "Non-Stern" spinoff edition (although I still like their Stern Edition), to be way more accurate than the Zen versions. Zen is a cool company, don't get me wrong, but they just haven't been able to match up to the accuracy of replicating a real pinball machine that Pinball Arcade was able to achieve. This is of course just my opinion, as there are others who would disagree with my assessment. I was lucky enough to buy all the Bally Williams and other table packs from Pinball Arcade before they lost their licenses. So it's hard for me to double dip and re-buy those tables again in their Zen iterations, especially when they don't play as accurately (again, my opinion). I know there's an added bonus to buying the Zen versions, namely the remixed animation mode, but I never cared for that look. I want the real pinball experience, so classic mode for me. I really do hope Pinball Arcade gets the licenses to the Bally and Williams tables back. I'm so happy to still be able to play Addams Family, Xenon, the Elvira pins, and of course, the Black Knight tables. I want others to have the same chance to play these great games as well :) vgv
@@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount Interesting... I have my opinions on it (like everybody does ;-) ) but would you mind explaining what you don't like / find realistic about the FX3 Classic Arcade / Tournament physics and other way around, why you prefer / find Pinball Arcade more realistic?
Hey! I am relatively new to Pinball FX3. However, I love the Getaway Table as well. The best part for me is that ZZ Top‘s La Grange is playing as music. Greetings from Germany!
Great video. Arcade 1Up just announced the game lineup for their virtual Attack From Mars Pin cab with 10 of these games on it. Wasn't familiar with any of these except the title and Medieval Madness. Thanks for the info...Subscribed.
I´m really surprised that you didn´t like Junk Yard this time, because back on Season 3 of Pinball Arcade you were praising this table and you put it on the number 2 spot on the list.
Nice. Little late for this just starting to get back into pinball. here are my packs ranked 1. Volume 5 - No good Gofers being my favorite table. ToAN is a fun table too so that's a plus. Meh on CV 2.Volume 2 - I actually like Black Rose. Likely because of the theme. Attack from Mars I like better than MM 3. Volume 1 - Medieval Madness and High Speed definitely the high points of this pack. 4. Universal Pack - Monster Bash would be tied with table pack 1 but the other tables edged it out. 5. Volume 6 - Funhouse is so much fun. I like that they added a table that wasn't in PA. Dr Dude is ok. 6. Volume 4 - White Water and Road Show are fun. 7. Volume 3 - The only table I like is Theater of Magic. It's fun to try and get all the magic shows/tricks etc.
I hated Party Zone at first but it as grown on me a lot the left hand ramp shot like you said crow is really satisfying i would love to try the real life table out i have never seen one anywhere on location.
Here is every table that I would like on Williams Pinball (on iPad) once the vision is complete: - Fireball, Firepower, Firepower II - Eight Ball and Eight Ball Deluxe - Flash - Gorgar - Black Knight and Black Knight 2000 - Centaur - Space Shuttle and Space Station - Sorcerer - Comet, Cyclone, and Hurricane - High Speed and The Getaway: High Speed II - Pin*Bot, The Machine: Bride of Pin*Bot and Jack*Bot - F-14 Tomcat - Party Animal, Elvira and the Party Monsters, Dr. Dude, and Party Zone - Fire! - Taxi - Banzai Run - Swords of Fury - Earthshaker and Whirlwind (table pack) - Diner - FunHouse - Harley Davidson - Terminator 2: Judgement Day - The Addams Family - Black Rose - Doctor Who - Fish Tales - Creature from the Black Lagoon and Monster Bash - White Water - Bram Stoker’s Dracula - Twilight Zone - Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure - Judge Dredd - Star Trek: The Next Generation - World Cup Soccer - Demolition Man - The Flintstones - Corvette - Road Show - The Shadow - Dirty Harry - Theatre of Magic - No Fear: Dangerous Sports - Indianapolis 500 - Johnny Mnemonic - Who Dunnit - Attack from Mars - Tales of the Arabian Nights - Safe Cracker - Scared Stiff - Junk Yard - Cirqus Voltaire - Medieval Madness - No Good Gofers - The Champion Pub - Monster Bash - Revenge from Mars
@@CrowContinuum my guess is a Star Wars IX set of tables (2 or 3 pack) is next. They always make tables for all Star Wars movies and they usually wait til 2 months after the movies debut to release them. So we should see those in February. William's Vol 6, my guess is late March or April 2020.
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to your upcoming PBA video. Also, do you happen to know many of the licensed songs they got for CFTBL? I know Farsight could only get the rights to 3 of the 5, but I haven't been able to get confirmation on which songs that Zen got for CFTBL for FX3. I don't own it yet, but I was wondering which had more songs. Thanks Crow! EDIT: Also, I really hope that Zen will start releasing Alphanumerics soon. There are so many awesome non-DMD solid state pins, including a bunch I don't all ready own on PBA. In fact I can pretty much guarantee that I will insta-buy any table that Zen releases that wasn't all ready on PBA.
For me most Pinball Tables became epic because of the Audio Samples they Used ! Dr Hook...I lost my Marbles WWF Royal Rumble...Pandemonium, Let's get Ready to Rumble Pool Shark.. Go for the Trickshot ! The Adams Family...Thing , lend a Hand Road Show.. Friday ! Just to name some..
I still have a chance to play Junk Yard real table in my city. I can boast that as a boy I also played real pinball tables Road Show, Arabian Nights, Monster Bash and some other Stern tables. Greetings from Bosnia and Herzegovina
Road Show, if you keep on playing it, eventually, with the re-wind you will see what an amazing table it is, with many opportunities to get 6 extra balls in one game. Some of the sub-games are good too.
That's why I love the back to the future table. You can stack the skateboard Multiball, out of time multi ball and flux capacitor Multiball. It gets crazy
I've been going through your pinball videos lately and I've enjoyed them all. Ended up getting Volume 1 first since Medieval Madness has won me over. Here's hoping Funhouse makes it to FX3; I just want to see how Zen would enhance Rudy.
Nice rundown and excellent editing! I prefer the tables to play a little more challenging and you also seem to like that. I would probably have Vol 4 as my top ranked above Universal Monsters and Vol 5 as I found none of those tables challenging relative to the Vol 4; Vacation Jackpot and Super Payday are both tough as nails to get! Attack from Mars also rate highly for me and one of my proudest moments in the game was getting Ruler of the Universe on Classic Arcade! I agree with you that Medieval Madness is though the better table because of the multiball variability and strategy (i.e. play it differently depending on if you going for castles or points). Interestingly enough, I've avoided the tables you have at the bottom because they just seem little fun. I've barely touched Champion Pub, Safe Cracker, and Black Rose but also No Good Gophers because of the scoring bug that Zen must first sort out. I enjoy all the tables once I get into them a bit, but some I'll never go back to again because they have little to them. My pinball playing has also shifted away from the Zen originals and that has mostly to do with Classic Arcade / Tournament physics so I really hope Zen design their new originals with Classic Arcade / Tournament physics from the getgo.
@@CrowContinuum Your score gets halved for No Good reason on No Good Gophers ;-) Zen showed they are working on it so it should be sorted soon. They will do more originals... there has been more than enough hints.
I dont dislike Hurricane because of it being too simple for being an old-school table, but rather because it makes me feel depressed and uneasy...everything about this table screams "Worn out entertainers at a carnival about to go psycho and gruesomely kill children while still wearing their getups", and I think the colours have a bit to do with it, they are very "light", and not very intense, so it gives a sort of run-down impression in my opinion. At least this is how I feel most of the time X3 It rubs me the wrong way in any case. XD @ Junkyard minigame, I kinda love it, it really makes me brush up on my reflexes, also, Junkyard can be a pain when the day decides to be a ball-hungry one and drain all the time, but I kinda like this one otherwise, I get a bit of a Neil Gaimann feel from it to be honest. I have played it in real life though, so that probably helps my enjoyment. I think I played Black Rose in real life one day and IIRC it was much more spectacular in person that in a video game. I agree about The Party Zone, just hearing that music used to make me cringe, but it is indeed growing on me because of the wackiness...and I also seem to have a vague memory of playing this one in real life. I agree about Red & Ted too, Ive a vague memory of playing this one IRL too, and IIRC it was kinda obtruse there too, but not just as much. Theathre of Magic was indeed more of a thing when playing it for real, but I like giving it a spin from time to time here too. Dont remember if I played Circus Voltaire in real life, but between the ugly character, the whole acrobatic circus theme and the music, I dont like it very much, at least not at the time of writing this comment. I love Fish Tales when managing to nail those U-Turns and stuff, and the long shots and whatnot, but after playing it for a long time the voice clips and such grate a bit on me. I absolutely love Tales of Arabian Nights, both irl and in PFX3, I also love that there are so many ways to go about how to do things, and that you get the main objectives (Jewels) from the Bazaar, and fighting the Genie is pretty awesome with that music~ I have to take a break every now and then though, because the sounds and music can get a bit grating after extended playing. Gotta love Attack From Mars, it gets me pretty pumped, it keeps you on your toes with the sudden bounces and how quickly the ball comes back sometimes, and making those long shots at the saucer is just amazingly satisfying! And it is a lot of the same with Medieval Madness, though it has to be said that MM is a bit busy at times in comparison with the artwork and all the thingies and stuff, but thats a minor thing. Ooh, yes, the multiballs in MM
@@CrowContinuum You should Crow. Its really good but id read a steam guide before you do as the game has no tutorial or guide. Would love to see you do a review on it eventually!
So far, only one new pack was released since this video. So it'll take quite a while before he updates this list or make a follow-up. By the way, Zen actually does season bundles when they already have the featured tables for that season, and Season 1 of Williams Pinball only contains the first four packs for that collection. So perhaps, a good time to update the list would be no sooner than once season 2 is available.
You already covered Volume 6 in the other video I do think more tables are coming, the Pinbot trilogy is entirely missing along with T2 and a few others, pretty sure the other big two pinball companies will be joining in 2022 and letting FX3 go full force into better long term investments
Red and Ted is a bit more fun in real life. There is something off about this one. Half my first plunges/skill shot attempts end up going straight down the middle. Ball save does kick in, but it’s annoying and not how the real table plays. As is, I think you have it in the right spot.
Thanks for this video and some advice for taking a decision if We want to buy a certain pack. Although I am not a Williams fan; Just to complete the collection.
The real Circus Voltaire machine has a (real) balloon rise from the "Boom" feature and you have to knock it out with the pinball..I don't know why they don't try and recreate this in the FX version it would look so cool.
@@CrowContinuum In fact, now I remember the one I played (about 20 years ago) had been modified with a small pink balloon attached by the operator as was a "one off" and I thought it was a an original manufacture...Sorry.
I have volumes 5 and 6, plus the Universal Monster's pack. I'm going to pick up volume 4 soon because I really think Hurricane has a cool aesthetic, and White Water and Road Show look pretty cool as well. Can you do an updated version of your rankings with 6 included?
Have you seen the Arcade1up pinball machines at CES2020? The Mars Attack one looks awesome. It suppose to have 10 games. I’m guessing all Williams FX3 tables.
Start Trek Next Generation should have been on this list dude - but yeah agree with some of it. I would have put the top 5-10 - in the 1-5 except leave "Monster Bash" cause well that game is just fun! - Getaway is a good game but not #1 for me.
@@CrowContinuum This. There are sooo many great Alphanumerics out there. And I'd love it if they would release ANY table that wasn't all ready in TPA.
I am really trying to fall in love with Zen's stuff but I just can't get my head around the animations that simply do not exist on the real tables etc. Wish there was a mode in which you can disable every toy-like effect.
Hello, have you done or can you do a ranking of the Zen original tables, and/or the other packs like Universal, Jurassic park, Aliens, Bethesda, Marvel, Star Wars, etc.? You do a great job and would like to hear your thoughts on those. Thank you,
I’m using a PC. Do you know how to play the original Williams tables without all the added movement??? I want to play the original versions of the Williams tables, but don’t know how to do that. All I get are the new remastered 3D crap tables. Please help. Thanks in advance
Will you be picking up the arcade1up virtual pinball? They said it will have 10 of these tables by zen and I gotta think the ten will come from pinball fx3 ??
I like the fx3 recreation tables.......I kinda hate all the other ones other than the initial free table they give out. The rest all feel like half a table.
@@CrowContinuum true, thats (more or less) what their Support told me ;) but some coder/hacking friends told me, that the Implementation would not be a big issue. As you can see in 2/3 of All other PC pinball games. Too Bad, that only the biggest player in the market seems unable to do this right :)
I'd say only when they are on sale. I actually find the FX3 tables a bit harder than PA on Classic Single-player. Don't play the Williams on Single-player mode. It has the Zen physics that you'll find on their originals and most of the Marvel/SW tables. You can try them out but I dislike the timed aspect. It's too short.
@@bigpileofpuke Yes As mentioned the 'single player mode' has Zen Physics if you've played their tables before, it's easier to keep the ball in play and cradle the ball. In 'classic single-player', you have more realistic physics. It has arcade mode and Tournament mode where the angle is lifted and balls fall faster.
@@Fighterfan69 The standard Zen physics mode on the Williams tables is easier and less realistic than the arcade modes, but definitely better than the awful "pinball on the moon" physics of the Zen designs.
Quality editing. Love how you displayed the gameplay here with the commentary. As ever great list, mostly agree 👍
I love the Williams/Bally tables, they are like art, recreated to perfection (except for the censorship). They bring back memories of me playing these as a kid, and the arcade mode almost feels like a real table. Great review
@Brett Peake what was censored and how?
@Brett Peake my 4Kids senses are tingling. Kinda dumb if you ask me, but at least it doesn't mess with the gameplay.
@@game84cube The Steam versions are uncensored luckily
They're baaaaaaack with three new Williams Tables!
Dr. Dude & His Excellent Ray (Addictive, but very hard. Also, too...much....80s)
Space Station (Don't like it. I find it really boring)
Funhouse (One of my favorites and I love that Mortal Kombat's Ed Boon voices Rudy)
I love them all. Such an improvement over TPA (that was also fun in its time). Keep up the awesome work, Zen. Thanks for the video, Crow.
Medieval madness is my favorite. Great music and effects!
Well, to me, it's like this:
1-Medieval Madness
2-Tales of the Arabian Nights
3-Theatre of Magic
4-Attack from Mars
5-Monster Bash
6-Fish Tales
7-Junkyard
8-Creature from the Black Lagoon
9-Red & Ted's Road Show
10-Cirqus Voltaire
11-White Water
12-The Getaway
13-Champion Pub
14-No Good Gofers
15-Safe Cracker
16-Hurricane
17-The Party Zone
18-Black Rose
Great Show!
Screen is a treat.
Amazing how Our opinion on a game can quickly change after a good session on it.
Looking forward to more Crow content this year. Beauty Crowman.
Nice list. I’d personally put Cirqus Voltaire #1 and Medieval Madness #2. I grew up playing Cirqus Voltaire a lot and they really did a great job with it.
Totally agree with all of your review scores, you hit the nail on the head! I also purchased the three packs you rated as the best (volume 1, volume 5, and the monster pack), as they had the best tables I enjoyed. Thanks for your reviews!
Thanks crow always have respected your views I used to own pinball arcade but these FX tables are a different league great video my friend 👏👏👍
I only played two pinballs from that list on the real machines: Cirqus Voltaire and Roadshow. The accuracy of the physics is brilliant, way better than Pinball Arcade. I'm so glad Zen can finally release Williams/Bally tables, they make a fantastic job, and you just can feel they are true pinball enthusiasts.
@@CrowContinuum You're totally right, somehow it keeps getting better and better (I play Pinball FX2 since its release on Xbox 360, and it was already very good then). Anyways, thanks for your amazing videos, it's always top-notch content.
I got all tables. But my personal ranking looks quite different :)
1. Theatre of Magic (by far my favorite table!)
2. Medieval Madness (so funny)
3. Cirqus Voltaire (crazy and funny)
4. Road Show (great voice comments, great music, cool gameplay)
5. Attack from Mars (quite straightforward game play)
6. Monster Bash (very funny, but somehow repetitive)
7. Tales of The Arabian Nights (quite diversified gameplay)
8. Creature from the Black Lagoon
9. White Water (ok but not as good as I hoped)
10. Champions Pub (funny!)
11. No Good Golfers (too difficult)
12. Hurricane (not as bad as I thought)
13. The Getaway Highspeed II (quite boring to me and full of clichés )
14. Fish Tales
15. Junk Yard (funny but boring)
16. Black Rose
17. The Party Zone (very quirky... and annoying sound)
18. Safe Cracker (very strange concept)
Attack From Mars is the best one.... I got 750 000 000 000 + (yep 750 Billions +)
I did ''Rule the universe'' 11 times....pretty good, hehe
Too easy even my dog can make millions there
@@yahushaking4367 ... My goal is 1 TRILLION ....after that i will retire from the game.
I hate u
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@@BosonogiNebo ...My goal is 1 Trillion points. After that i will retire as the Worlds best Player of this game..
My local pinball pub has Medieval Madness and Black Lagoon! I love playing Medieval! I had no idea that FX3 had that!!! I never looked at the williams tables list... Guess what I'm going to have to get next 😎 I'll try your number 1 as well 😁
I hope zen get a move on releasing more Williams/Bally tables, they’ve got a long way to go to match TPA.
@@CrowContinuum Nope. It's turns out they were delayed to October. Though you already know that by now.
Who knows if The Pinball Arcade will ever release more Gottlieb and Stern/Sega/Data East tables such as Jurassic Park
@@leafsfanforever2896 They haven't released anything new to the game for a couple of years now. It' pretty much dead since Farsight still won't mention any updates about it apart from free tables of the month.
@@Cyberbrickmaster1986 likely because of licensing issues considering that the majority of Data East/Sega/Stern tables are licensed. Pretty much all of them
Pinball arcade was great but I noticed an update around 2017 and it messed up the physics or something
It never felt right anymore
And no it wasn’t just me wanting to play on more modern 3D style tables
I loved Taxi and Diner plus Indy 500
So many .
Now I’m full FX3 FX2 VR etc
Great analysis of these tables as always! While it is a bit disappointing that Zen haven't tackled any unreleased Williams tables yet, the sheer quality of these classics is undeniable.
Your opinion is refreshing to hear. I absolutely love Champion Pub. Definitely in my top 3 together with Creature and White Water. I love the way Champion Pub incorporates boxing/fighting/training into pinball but I know aht you mean about getting unlucky. I just think the table is very clever and a variety of shots to go for. Creature and Water I feel skill plays a big part and when you drain it's usually the players fault. Skill pays.
I'm definitely one of those big fans of Junkyard, although it still wouldn't be in my top 5. That video mode really drags the game down.
I can't agree more. Nice effort on editing btw.
I'd sure like to see more. We haven't even caught up with what PA lost.
Well, they've only just got into emulating the alpha numeric tables, so I think they will focus more on them before expanding with other legacy TPA tables with a Dot Matrix display, especially with things that effect their spot in Pinball FX 3 as of now. Cactus Canyon is an unfinished table, so I suspect they may want to track down a hacked version that's actually finished before emulating it. Who Dunnit contains content involving murder and gambling, Jack*Bot is all about gambling, Scared Stiff stars a character best known for reasons that are too sexist for E10+, and a large number of other Williams/Bally Dot Matrix tables in TPA are tied with licenses with some harder to obtain than others. Hopefully they will be able to acquire those rights one way or another in the future and make a compromise to have Teen rated tables, by making a separate stand alone collection for consoles that removes the censorship and allows the addition of PG13 type tables as an exclusive to that collection.
I recently discovered your channel and I have to say that im loving it! And whats more funny is that you look like my uncle haha, feels like im watching my uncle talking about pinball. Anyway you got a new sub! Cheers from Argentina :)
Just found your channel and subbed. The only thing I hate about Zen doing these now is that I’ve already been buying the same tables over and over for over a decade and now, apparently, I’m gonna be rebuying all the pinball arcade stuff, lol. It’s really impressive that you’ve scored all the achievements for those. That takes wizard level skill, for sure. Monster Bash is my favorite, btw.
Crow Pinball I’m glad they are giving us these again. As much time as I have spent with Farsighted tables I have to say they feel a bit heavy to me... which is probably more realistic, I don’t know. I suck at real life pinball because I never get a chance to practice anywhere. But I can usually play on Zen tables much better. Medieval Madness is a good example. Always struggled to get the wizard mode in PA, picked it up just screwing around in FX3 and almost immediately did it, on my first ball with 2 extras awarded nonetheless. I can’t explain it, it’s just a hair easier.
Thanks, dude. Next time, I will make my own list, via PS4 Share Factory.
Great video! I agree with the rankings of your packs! I have some differences in rankings of the tables in general though, but I’m a new pinball enthusiast and am really enjoying my experience so far, my favorite table has to be no good goffers, challenging (just like golf) but also so much fun to figure out how the table works and make the most of your shots
ATM all my life! Monster Bash as second and MM third...
Basically every WMS table made by Steve Ritchie, Pat Lawlor, and Dennis Nordman should be on here in the future
My three favorite are Creature from the black lagoon, Circus Voltaire, and Road Show
Any pinball tables with a spooky/horror/monster movie theme are automatically top tier.
Crow,
Great look at the Zen Williams pinball tables and also, WHAT GREAT TIMING! We'll have to see if your top 10 makes it into the upcoming Arcade1up mini-pin! It's going to have ten of the Williams Zen tables! We know it'll at least have one of your top 10 picks, Attack From Mars, because that's the styling of the cabinet. I love the fact it'll have a real DMD and actual solenoids, so you'll be able to feel the action! And unlike the recent Toy Shock pin, which used buttons to nudge the table (nothing wrong with that, of course), it will instead have a built in accelerometer, so you'll be able to push the actual cabinet to make nudges! Now don't get me wrong, I like my Haunted House Toy Shock, but it will be cool to have some Williams tables in a Pinball form factor. From what they showed at CES, it looked fantastic and they've said it will retail for around $500 - $700.
I personally fell in love with Tales Of Arabian Nights when it was the free pack-in with Pinball Arcade. I had so much fun playing it that it took awhile before I actually started buying Pinball Arcade tables. And of course, I can't get enough of Attack From Mars!
Thanks for the vid!
vgv
Do you like pinball arcade? Do you think it's dead? Because they lost a lot of tables
MutantAli3n,
Pinball Arcade, the PC Edition on Steam, is my Jam! And do I think Pinball Arcade is dead? That's actually a good question. I guess my answer would be, I hope not. I find the pinball physics in Pinball Arcade, at least all the titles in their main "Non-Stern" spinoff edition (although I still like their Stern Edition), to be way more accurate than the Zen versions. Zen is a cool company, don't get me wrong, but they just haven't been able to match up to the accuracy of replicating a real pinball machine that Pinball Arcade was able to achieve. This is of course just my opinion, as there are others who would disagree with my assessment.
I was lucky enough to buy all the Bally Williams and other table packs from Pinball Arcade before they lost their licenses. So it's hard for me to double dip and re-buy those tables again in their Zen iterations, especially when they don't play as accurately (again, my opinion). I know there's an added bonus to buying the Zen versions, namely the remixed animation mode, but I never cared for that look. I want the real pinball experience, so classic mode for me.
I really do hope Pinball Arcade gets the licenses to the Bally and Williams tables back. I'm so happy to still be able to play Addams Family, Xenon, the Elvira pins, and of course, the Black Knight tables. I want others to have the same chance to play these great games as well :)
vgv
@@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount thanks I prefer pinball arcade too👍
@@videogamevegasYeOldeAccount Interesting... I have my opinions on it (like everybody does ;-) ) but would you mind explaining what you don't like / find realistic about the FX3 Classic Arcade / Tournament physics and other way around, why you prefer / find Pinball Arcade more realistic?
Videogame Vegas Thought I saw on the retail box at CES, Black Rose and Party Zone. However all could change.
You’re right about Cirqus Voltaire, the lighting is amazing on a real life table. Neither TPA or FX3 really capture it well.
Great video. I was looking to buy and wanted to see what other people had to say. Good insight!
What is yoour favourite table, Crow? btw, i love this kind of videos and the chroma was a nice addition.
I just got into the new tables and I really liked the overview. Cheers!
Hey! I am relatively new to Pinball FX3. However, I love the Getaway Table as well. The best part for me is that ZZ Top‘s La Grange is playing as music.
Greetings from Germany!
Great video. Arcade 1Up just announced the game lineup for their virtual Attack From Mars Pin cab with 10 of these games on it. Wasn't familiar with any of these except the title and Medieval Madness. Thanks for the info...Subscribed.
I´m really surprised that you didn´t like Junk Yard this time, because back on Season 3 of Pinball Arcade you were praising this table and you put it on the number 2 spot on the list.
Awesome review, thanks Crow !
Damn I miss all your old crooow plays.. :(... I guess I could rewatch them..
Great video!! Excellent review! “Champion pub” deserves a better place, jaja! I’ll try to buy the volume 5...
Luckily I have some of the Pinball Arcade tables that are no longer available such as Adams Family. I play them on PS Vita.
Nice. Little late for this just starting to get back into pinball. here are my packs ranked
1. Volume 5 - No good Gofers being my favorite table. ToAN is a fun table too so that's a plus. Meh on CV
2.Volume 2 - I actually like Black Rose. Likely because of the theme. Attack from Mars I like better than MM
3. Volume 1 - Medieval Madness and High Speed definitely the high points of this pack.
4. Universal Pack - Monster Bash would be tied with table pack 1 but the other tables edged it out.
5. Volume 6 - Funhouse is so much fun. I like that they added a table that wasn't in PA. Dr Dude is ok.
6. Volume 4 - White Water and Road Show are fun.
7. Volume 3 - The only table I like is Theater of Magic. It's fun to try and get all the magic shows/tricks etc.
would love to see an updated version!
@@CrowContinuum oh yeah that's fair
Theatre of Magic ❤
You can manipulate the chances of the board game in Safecracker by disabling alarms and gathering awards. It's not ALL luck...
Finally a good vídeo about pinball 👍👍
I hated Party Zone at first but it as grown on me a lot the left hand ramp shot like you said crow is really satisfying i would love to try the real life table out i have never seen one anywhere on location.
Here is every table that I would like on Williams Pinball (on iPad) once the vision is complete:
- Fireball, Firepower, Firepower II
- Eight Ball and Eight Ball Deluxe
- Flash
- Gorgar
- Black Knight and Black Knight 2000
- Centaur
- Space Shuttle and Space Station
- Sorcerer
- Comet, Cyclone, and Hurricane
- High Speed and The Getaway: High Speed II
- Pin*Bot, The Machine: Bride of Pin*Bot and Jack*Bot
- F-14 Tomcat
- Party Animal, Elvira and the Party Monsters, Dr. Dude, and Party Zone
- Fire!
- Taxi
- Banzai Run
- Swords of Fury
- Earthshaker and Whirlwind (table pack)
- Diner
- FunHouse
- Harley Davidson
- Terminator 2: Judgement Day
- The Addams Family
- Black Rose
- Doctor Who
- Fish Tales
- Creature from the Black Lagoon and Monster Bash
- White Water
- Bram Stoker’s Dracula
- Twilight Zone
- Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure
- Judge Dredd
- Star Trek: The Next Generation
- World Cup Soccer
- Demolition Man
- The Flintstones
- Corvette
- Road Show
- The Shadow
- Dirty Harry
- Theatre of Magic
- No Fear: Dangerous Sports
- Indianapolis 500
- Johnny Mnemonic
- Who Dunnit
- Attack from Mars
- Tales of the Arabian Nights
- Safe Cracker
- Scared Stiff
- Junk Yard
- Cirqus Voltaire
- Medieval Madness
- No Good Gofers
- The Champion Pub
- Monster Bash
- Revenge from Mars
Hey guys any ideas on when they will release new tables?
@@CrowContinuum my guess is a Star Wars IX set of tables (2 or 3 pack) is next. They always make tables for all Star Wars movies and they usually wait til 2 months after the movies debut to release them.
So we should see those in February.
William's Vol 6, my guess is late March or April 2020.
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to your upcoming PBA video. Also, do you happen to know many of the licensed songs they got for CFTBL? I know Farsight could only get the rights to 3 of the 5, but I haven't been able to get confirmation on which songs that Zen got for CFTBL for FX3. I don't own it yet, but I was wondering which had more songs. Thanks Crow! EDIT: Also, I really hope that Zen will start releasing Alphanumerics soon. There are so many awesome non-DMD solid state pins, including a bunch I don't all ready own on PBA. In fact I can pretty much guarantee that I will insta-buy any table that Zen releases that wasn't all ready on PBA.
I like Monster mash quite a bit and the gopher golf one are my favorites.
For me most Pinball Tables became epic because of the Audio Samples they Used !
Dr Hook...I lost my Marbles
WWF Royal Rumble...Pandemonium, Let's get Ready to Rumble
Pool Shark.. Go for the Trickshot !
The Adams Family...Thing , lend a Hand
Road Show.. Friday !
Just to name some..
I still have a chance to play Junk Yard real table in my city. I can boast that as a boy I also played real pinball tables Road Show, Arabian Nights, Monster Bash and some other Stern tables. Greetings from Bosnia and Herzegovina
Road Show, if you keep on playing it, eventually, with the re-wind you will see what an amazing table it is, with many opportunities to get 6 extra balls in one game. Some of the sub-games are good too.
That's why I love the back to the future table. You can stack the skateboard Multiball, out of time multi ball and flux capacitor Multiball. It gets crazy
great video
I've been going through your pinball videos lately and I've enjoyed them all. Ended up getting Volume 1 first since Medieval Madness has won me over.
Here's hoping Funhouse makes it to FX3; I just want to see how Zen would enhance Rudy.
Funhouse was just announced (Volume 6: along with Dr. Dude and Space Station)!
I wish fx3 would do a Ghostbusters game! #Ghostbusters pinball pinball fx3 :)
Nice rundown and excellent editing! I prefer the tables to play a little more challenging and you also seem to like that. I would probably have Vol 4 as my top ranked above Universal Monsters and Vol 5 as I found none of those tables challenging relative to the Vol 4; Vacation Jackpot and Super Payday are both tough as nails to get! Attack from Mars also rate highly for me and one of my proudest moments in the game was getting Ruler of the Universe on Classic Arcade! I agree with you that Medieval Madness is though the better table because of the multiball variability and strategy (i.e. play it differently depending on if you going for castles or points).
Interestingly enough, I've avoided the tables you have at the bottom because they just seem little fun. I've barely touched Champion Pub, Safe Cracker, and Black Rose but also No Good Gophers because of the scoring bug that Zen must first sort out. I enjoy all the tables once I get into them a bit, but some I'll never go back to again because they have little to them. My pinball playing has also shifted away from the Zen originals and that has mostly to do with Classic Arcade / Tournament physics so I really hope Zen design their new originals with Classic Arcade / Tournament physics from the getgo.
@@CrowContinuum Your score gets halved for No Good reason on No Good Gophers ;-) Zen showed they are working on it so it should be sorted soon. They will do more originals... there has been more than enough hints.
I dont dislike Hurricane because of it being too simple for being an old-school table, but rather because it makes me feel depressed and uneasy...everything about this table screams "Worn out entertainers at a carnival about to go psycho and gruesomely kill children while still wearing their getups", and I think the colours have a bit to do with it, they are very "light", and not very intense, so it gives a sort of run-down impression in my opinion. At least this is how I feel most of the time X3 It rubs me the wrong way in any case.
XD @ Junkyard minigame, I kinda love it, it really makes me brush up on my reflexes, also, Junkyard can be a pain when the day decides to be a ball-hungry one and drain all the time, but I kinda like this one otherwise, I get a bit of a Neil Gaimann feel from it to be honest. I have played it in real life though, so that probably helps my enjoyment.
I think I played Black Rose in real life one day and IIRC it was much more spectacular in person that in a video game.
I agree about The Party Zone, just hearing that music used to make me cringe, but it is indeed growing on me because of the wackiness...and I also seem to have a vague memory of playing this one in real life.
I agree about Red & Ted too, Ive a vague memory of playing this one IRL too, and IIRC it was kinda obtruse there too, but not just as much.
Theathre of Magic was indeed more of a thing when playing it for real, but I like giving it a spin from time to time here too.
Dont remember if I played Circus Voltaire in real life, but between the ugly character, the whole acrobatic circus theme and the music, I dont like it very much, at least not at the time of writing this comment.
I love Fish Tales when managing to nail those U-Turns and stuff, and the long shots and whatnot, but after playing it for a long time the voice clips and such grate a bit on me.
I absolutely love Tales of Arabian Nights, both irl and in PFX3, I also love that there are so many ways to go about how to do things, and that you get the main objectives (Jewels) from the Bazaar, and fighting the Genie is pretty awesome with that music~ I have to take a break every now and then though, because the sounds and music can get a bit grating after extended playing.
Gotta love Attack From Mars, it gets me pretty pumped, it keeps you on your toes with the sudden bounces and how quickly the ball comes back sometimes, and making those long shots at the saucer is just amazingly satisfying!
And it is a lot of the same with Medieval Madness, though it has to be said that MM is a bit busy at times in comparison with the artwork and all the thingies and stuff, but thats a minor thing.
Ooh, yes, the multiballs in MM
1. Tales of the Arribean Night
2. Fish Tales
3. Goofy Golfers
Good review crow
Do you think your ranking would change if they updated the physics on the first packs to match the post Monsters packs?
Great video. Did you do a similar one with the zen tables?
Hey Crow you should check out "Demons Tilt" on Steam.
Love to see you do a review on it!
@@CrowContinuum You should Crow. Its really good but id read a steam guide before you do as the game has no tutorial or guide. Would love to see you do a review on it eventually!
So far, only one new pack was released since this video. So it'll take quite a while before he updates this list or make a follow-up.
By the way, Zen actually does season bundles when they already have the featured tables for that season, and Season 1 of Williams Pinball only contains the first four packs for that collection. So perhaps, a good time to update the list would be no sooner than once season 2 is available.
@@CrowContinuum I really only see it as one table pack. 2020 was a very dry year for Zen Studios. I hope things will pick up again this year!
You already covered Volume 6 in the other video
I do think more tables are coming, the Pinbot trilogy is entirely missing along with T2 and a few others, pretty sure the other big two pinball companies will be joining in 2022 and letting FX3 go full force into better long term investments
Red and Ted is a bit more fun in real life. There is something off about this one. Half my first plunges/skill shot attempts end up going straight down the middle. Ball save does kick in, but it’s annoying and not how the real table plays. As is, I think you have it in the right spot.
Hey Crow, quick question. How did you put together your custom pinball controller? Are there any good guides out there? Thanks.
Thanks for this video and some advice for taking a decision if We want to buy a certain pack. Although I am not a Williams fan; Just to complete the collection.
Hey Miguel!
Excellent vid thanks.
No crow how can u have medieval madness ranked at 6
It’s my favourite table
What places in this rating for Funhouse, Dr. Dude and Space Station? I'm curious about your opinion.
Nice review!
My favorite williams pin in pinball fx3 is black rose because its more fun for when you sink the ships😀😀😀
You should do a top 10 list of the best Zaccaria tables, I know the Time Machine and Blackbelt remakes would be on mine
Black belt and earth wind fire are probably my favourite. 😃
My favorite is fish tales I love fishing.
The real Circus Voltaire machine has a (real) balloon rise from the "Boom" feature and you have to knock it out with the pinball..I don't know why they don't try and recreate this in the FX version it would look so cool.
@@CrowContinuum In fact, now I remember the one I played (about 20 years ago) had been modified with a small pink balloon attached by the operator as was a "one off" and I thought it was a an original manufacture...Sorry.
There's a balloon that you can hit instead of the bumper in the enhanced graphics setting, which you can toggle at any time.
The Get Away was the sequel to High Speed, I favor High Speed a little more but there both fantastic tables.
I have volumes 5 and 6, plus the Universal Monster's pack. I'm going to pick up volume 4 soon because I really think Hurricane has a cool aesthetic, and White Water and Road Show look pretty cool as well. Can you do an updated version of your rankings with 6 included?
@@CrowContinuum I hear you! I'm looking forward to hearing about that as well!
Have you seen the Arcade1up pinball machines at CES2020? The Mars Attack one looks awesome. It suppose to have 10 games. I’m guessing all Williams FX3 tables.
If you miss the upper flipper shot in Black Rose, it puts you in the left side outlane EVERY... FLIPPING.... TIME.... it's frustrating.
Could you please do an updated ranking video featuring Dr. Dude, FunHouse, and Space Station as they were released in October of 2020?
Start Trek Next Generation should have been on this list dude - but yeah agree with some of it. I would have put the top 5-10 - in the 1-5 except leave "Monster Bash" cause well that game is just fun! - Getaway is a good game but not #1 for me.
Good video! What do you think will be in the next Volume?
@@CrowContinuum This. There are sooo many great Alphanumerics out there. And I'd love it if they would release ANY table that wasn't all ready in TPA.
I am really trying to fall in love with Zen's stuff but I just can't get my head around the animations that simply do not exist on the real tables etc. Wish there was a mode in which you can disable every toy-like effect.
@@CrowContinuum Thank you! Since then, I purchased the entire Williams collection, love them all!
Do anyone know about if these tables are available at some point on Fx3
Demolition Man
WWF Wrestling
Totall Recall
Not buying a table that has a toilet as a table toy. A couple of them have this and it is super annoying.
They done a decent job I've bought every one so far but come on zen where are the new tables it's been months now
Justt what I needed 5today thanks
Hello, have you done or can you do a ranking of the Zen original tables, and/or the other packs like Universal, Jurassic park, Aliens, Bethesda, Marvel, Star Wars, etc.? You do a great job and would like to hear your thoughts on those. Thank you,
I see you did the FX2 top 10... thanks
Can you do a update on the Williams?
Love pinball fx3. Now I play a lot the family guy table.
Medieval Madness and Attack from Mars pinball are the best
I'm agree with you ! 😉
I’m using a PC. Do you know how to play the original Williams tables without all the added movement??? I want to play the original versions of the Williams tables, but don’t know how to do that. All I get are the new remastered 3D crap tables. Please help. Thanks in advance
activate classic mode
Will you be picking up the arcade1up virtual pinball? They said it will have 10 of these tables by zen and I gotta think the ten will come from pinball fx3 ??
Will "Pinball FX3" also release tables from other brands?
I Love and hate Fish tales. Its a brutal and unforgiving nerve shredder, but the rewards are huge. Used to play the real thing back in the day.
I like the fx3 recreation tables.......I kinda hate all the other ones other than the initial free table they give out. The rest all feel like half a table.
Cool Video, nice Rankings. But too sad that this game does not Support 21:9 in Tate Mode.
@@CrowContinuum true, thats (more or less) what their Support told me ;) but some coder/hacking friends told me, that the Implementation would not be a big issue. As you can see in 2/3 of All other PC pinball games. Too Bad, that only the biggest player in the market seems unable to do this right :)
I have most of these tables already on Pinball Arcade. Should I rebuy them again on Pinball FX3?
I'd say only when they are on sale. I actually find the FX3 tables a bit harder than PA on Classic Single-player. Don't play the Williams on Single-player mode. It has the Zen physics that you'll find on their originals and most of the Marvel/SW tables. You can try them out but I dislike the timed aspect. It's too short.
@@Fighterfan69 Okay thanks for the tip. Are the physics different on other modes?
@@bigpileofpuke Yes As mentioned the 'single player mode' has Zen Physics if you've played their tables before, it's easier to keep the ball in play and cradle the ball. In 'classic single-player', you have more realistic physics. It has arcade mode and Tournament mode where the angle is lifted and balls fall faster.
@@Fighterfan69 The standard Zen physics mode on the Williams tables is easier and less realistic than the arcade modes, but definitely better than the awful "pinball on the moon" physics of the Zen designs.