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What occurs to me comparing your retrograde conworld to the hypothetical retrograde earth is that yours is essentially a pangea situation, with a single supercontinent. The retrograde earth, meanwhile, has ocean-specific effects as a result of having not just different oceans but a system between them (that specializes them based on size and position). Unusual phenomena specific to them crops up as a result - the Gulf Stream, ENSO, and so on. I suppose retrograde would alter the assignment of those features, although I'm not clear on why they do in the way the model suggests (my understanding is that the position of the Mediterranean and Himalayas are more key to why there's a mild Europe and monsoon-soaked India versus comparatively desiccated MENA - but this suggests it's not just about size and structure, but also in relation to the rotation??).
That day will never come. It belongs to a different timeline where he is responsable with the topics he raises. It is not like we asked for those topics.
We've been a frozen wasteland before and chances are will be again. Question is, will humans be on the British Isles long enough to form an orderly queue to complain about the weather, while complaining about being in a queue quietly under their breath and tutting?
@@lizzalkula376 yes, but woe betide anyone who holds up a queue, they will be the subject of mass muttering and tutting, maybe whispered remarks that are just audible and in extreme cases sarcasm or extreme formal politeness in a passive aggressive manner.
Wouldn't having a single large ocean like yours give rise to absolutely devastating storms if they made landfall? Is there a good way to generalize storm severity/ frequency like how the US East coast has 'hurricane season' or Monsoons/typhoons in the Pacific?
Do you think you'll be able to do a more realistic description of the climates of a tidally-locked planet? Or the climate of a Earth-like Gas Giant moon?
I think the point of knowing how climates actually work anyways in worldbuilding is kinda like the reason you take music theory if you want to compose music. You don't do it so you can follow all of the rules perfectly all of the time, but instead you know the rules so that you know which ones you can break before it becomes unrealistic or impractical. You need at least some rules to get the creative juices flowing, anyways. Unless I'm wholly incorrect
Would it be possible to do a video on ice ages or other sorta "snowball" worlds? I'm considering doing such a thing, but I wonder how that might look/affect climates etc. Or even if it's a noticeable difference.
PBS Eons channel has recently uploaded two videos on snowball earth, the first on how it happend twice on our planet and the second on life on earth during that time. Could be interesting.
I'd love to see Artifexian's take on it, but if you need some info now, here's a world climate map during the last polar maximum on Earth. It seems like, in a very general sense, the climate bands we're drawing are basically squished from north and south, with a higher influence compared to modern day on places directly connected to the ice cap by land. Deserts seem to stay where they are. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum#/media/File:Last_Glacial_Maximum_Vegetation_Map.svg
With this, you could theoretically create climate maps for a habitable Venus. This is because Venus has a retrograde spin where all the other planets (Earth included) are prograde. Here's what I'd suspect you'd do for the other scenarios: Different land-water ratio: Do the same as in previous videos, but take the different amounts of land into consideration Warmer/cooler: Modify the climates accordingly to adapt to temperatures. In a nutshell, you could use this in your world to simulate global warming (warmer temperatures) or a global ice age (cooler temperatures). Faster/slower spin: Modify accordingly to adapt to stronger/weaker trade winds and faster/slower ocean currents. High/low obliquity (axial tilt): Modify accordingly to account for the tropic/polar circles being in different spots. Tidelocked: Modify to adapt to the different day/night cycle Habitable Moon: Set trade winds and ocean currents, and use scenarios above for your moon.
The retrograde thing is very little to do with why Venus is so hot. The slow rotation has far more of an effect, but the big thing is it's just close to the Sun and massive enough to retain an atmosphere. To have a habitable Venus it needs to be further out, and we kinda already have a planet there. ;)
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I think something worth mentioning is that rain shadows also create a lot of rain in rivers on the unshaded side. So in some ways perhaps the reason the Amazon is so green may have to do with the Andes. Particularly as that water then re-evaporates through transpiration and river surface evaporation and then gets blocked by the mountains *again*
Can’t wait to see the others on the list, particularly different land water ratio. I’m making a star system with four terrestrial habitable planets in resonant orbits, and I’m planning the inner one to be 20-30% water and the outer one to be 80-90% water.
Edgar, I have a request for a video. How would plants look on a planet orbiting a binary star? Perhaps ones with white dwarfs and stars? Would they just be a mix of the colours both stars make plants look?
yay more weather stuff. I finally have a map but it's mostly just continents without mountains. So I'll have to place those somewhere before I work out weather patterns.
I am actually very glad that you did bunch of world building, you did it right when I needed it. Thank you for doing everything you already have done. I do enjoy your con lang videos too though… looking forward to your next one either way.
So in mountainous regions near oceans with onshore winds you will get oceanic-esque climates (Cfa I believe) like in Sichuan. Mostly just remember that rainshadows will affect the whole leeward side of the mountain range, as seen with the deserts accross Tibet. High altitude mountains will also have tundra, like in much of Nepal and the Alps. Lastly if you have a Monsoon or some wind reversal taking place then you will probably have Dw climates
Also interesting: Mountains usually bring with them climate zones running parallel to the mountain, dependant more on the altitude rather than how far north or south you are. This is why the Maya civilization worked.
Great video series! It would be interesting to see your take on a theoretical alternative / past Earth climate e.g. a greener Sahara. I particularly feel as if there is a gold mine of tales to be written based on a speculative ancient society at the Richat, in what is now present day Mauritania.
0:09 We are still waiting for the next variations (dif. land/water ratio, faster/slower spin, high/low obliquity, tidally locked and habitable moon) hope they release soon and they are not completely forgotten.
I'm commenting on everyone that asked the same, with the same answer: he has forgotten. I don't think he would ever do videos on those topics. Same as with the Resonant Orbits.
Have you ever done a Twin Worlds thing? Like if Earth and Theia had gotten into a stable orbit around one another instead of crashing into each other and creating Luna?
That whole thing with the retrograde Earth and the swaps of everything is super odd and interesting. I wonder if it's just like because of mountains and the new rainshadow for the Americas, but the shifts of wind patterns like the monsoon and ENSO to the West is super odd. I would also like to mention that I still think that there should be more hot steppe on the rainshadow side and interior of the equatorial cell. The region just above the equator might be too dry for too long to have the rain for a savanna, so I would think the desert would extend South, then steppe filling in the equator because what little moisture left in that air will rain out on the steppe. I would imagine that continues until around 20° east and in the south, where your rainforest lies.
Interesting video as always, Edgar, especially in how the climates differ due to the direction of rotation. Even more so as how odd Earth would have been if it was retrograde rather than pro grade, and good advise on which method to choose. Speaking of methods, I forgot to note in the previous entries in the subject that the mountains and coastlines are a bit different when compared to the cartography map of earlier when designing the highlands and ocean depths. I'm assuming that we'll get a detailed video on rivers and erosion both water and wind? And speaking of mountains, any chance that we'll also get altitude-based climate video as well? Either way, thanks for the video.
Id like to see how to make a worlds which is closer to the star (hotter worlds) and worlds which is farther from its star (colder world) (sorry if i had a mistakes im not a native english speaker)
Do similar changes to climates happen underwater (temperature shifts, etc.) when you reverse orbit, and would this have an effect on local sea level and coastline?
I think that would have to do with how much light the planet reflects or absorbs form it's star(s). More it absorbs the higher water it might have. the less it absorbs the more ice it'll have and lower water.
How would you do a rocky planet that is significantly larger than earth? Would you just make change the range of precipitation, or would there be anything else you would say should be taken into account?
He did a video based on axial tilt a while back. But he just said where the different temperature ranges would be. Video: ua-cam.com/video/J4K3H9aNLpE/v-deo.html
Was hoping there'd be something about what happens for a planet in a fairly elliptical orbit - not so much that it ever drifts out of its habitable zone, but enough that it creates a significant different average temperature when the planet is closer/further from its star (by a few degrees)... now that I think about it, is that a climate question or a seasons one?
Ok so, let's try to explain some of the retrograde simulation with our model here: 1. The Eastern Sahara gets its trade winds from Arabia. The western Sahara gets its trade winds from the Eastern Sahara. I think to figure this out you really need to look way over to the east and you'll see there's damn near no water for the Sahara. 2. In retrograde, this problem doesn't exist. We can safely mark the Sahara as tropical Savannah or something with essentially zero concern for where the water is coming from. Especially in the western portion. It's affected by warm currents and onshore winds. 2. Europe freezing: well yes. The weirdness isn't that Europe freezes in retrograde. It's that it doesn't freeze in prograde. paris is over 48 degrees North. Berlin is over 52. It would be cold or literally polar currents and offshore winds!! Europe would literally be western Siberia.
I'm excited for the Land to Water Ratio video. My current World is 50/50 Land to water and I'm curious how that impacts it, finding good resources is hard.
honestly, it was a swap placement on the earth one, just more of swapping climate on sides of oceans rather than sides of continents, which honestly makes sense to me
Isn't a "retrograde" planet just one that has the orientation of the maps changed? If we put, as the Chinese used to do, Antarctica at the top of our maps, then Earth would be spinning retrograde, the Sun rising toward the left side of our maps. Just be sure to put your sunrise direction to the right side of your maps, and then there's no need for any of this kind of complication.
When you've finally finished all of those options at 0:10, could you do a video for designing gas giant clouds and colours? I'd love to see how to make a unique and realistic gas giant or ice giant.
If the next video will be about conlanging, and if you pop between the two types every month, then the climates for my 0º of axial tilt world wil be in next year's march...
Naima higher regions are colder, so cold deserts on the leeward side and if near the tropics or in them, subtropical highland climates in the windward side. Most lower elevation mountain ranges won’t have as high an effect on temperature also.
did he ever make the "high/low" obliquity one? I'd be very very interested in how climates would work when the obliquity is high enough that the tropical and polar circles overlap
I'm thinking of doing a bit of worldbuilding myself, mainly fantasy, but nonethless I would like to ask how would how the climate be effected if the planet was 1.5x,2x or 2.5x the size of Earth. Basically a Super-Earth or Mega-Earth.
CHALLENGE: Can do you a Climate map of earth based on your information shown in your _wonderfully_ crafted videos? I'd really like to see you compare the one you made, & the Real Earth one! However... You can't use the earth data, a basic earth map, & MS Paint, PShop, or whatever u use. Big thanks from a *big* fan!
Surely "retrograde" rotation means just flipping the map upside down before you start? In fact, I would have thought that you start with East is the direction of rotation, West is the opposite when labelling the directions on an alien planet in the first place? It's interesting to compare the same map with prograde and retrograde versions, but other than that it seems odd to talk about it. For a fast-rotating world, the impact on the solar/sidereal day ratio is negligible, so it shouldn't matter.
Konstantin Pakhomov it’s Köppen without 3rd letters, so Chicago and Arxangelesk are both in the same continental wet climate, despite one being a/b and the other subarctic.
I know the number of wind currents is determined by spin speed, but is there anything else that affects that? Say the atmosphere was much thicker on a smaller planet, or much thinner on a larger planet, or vice versa of any of those. Could a planet with the same day length as Earth have 5+ wind cells?
How would a world with floating islands/continents work, ala the floating mountains in Avatar? Would any of these rules really apply or would everything be up in the air?
I guess it would depend on: 1. How high is it? 2. How far Inland is it. If your floating Islands were too high or too far inland, they would be unaffected by warm/cold ocean currents and they would be dryer. Also, the higher up they would be, the colder they would be.
Step 1: rotate the map 180 degrees Step 2: do the winds, currents, and climate like you would normally Step 3: rotate the map 180 degrees again Now you have the climates of a retrograde planet while having made it in prograde. Huzzah!
Do you have any videos on different kinds of "seasons"? Like for example how ancient Egypt didn't have coventional seasons, but rather growing season, harvesting season and flooded season.
Nout van der Hidde the 4 seasons only really exist in Mediterranean, oceanic, and continental climates. Monsoon and savanna will yield a dry season, wet season, and in more poleward regions a winter. Changes in local weather often become seasons or the times when things happen, like harvest season.
I’m curious as to how axial tilt would affect climates. Would it just extend equatorial climates. For example, for a planet with an axial tilt of 30 degrees, would you extend the tropical climates out an extra 10 or so degrees
Love the video Artifexian! I'm building a map with essentially an upside down NZ in the northern hemisphere between 50-65° with a retrograde spin. My main question is how much would be oceanic? In my world, my east sides are heavily oceanic, so will that make my leeside interiors of big mountains subartic, with tundra at the far north? Or is it still largely oceanic due to it being an island with influence from on shore winds (despite a big cold current coming southwards on the west side)? In the real world NZ and the UK are almost if not entirely oceanic, (whilst bearing in mind that NZ has a lower latitude and the UK has the gulf stream to enable an oceanic climate) and I'm wondering how oceanic my location will be compared to this. Many thanks to you and the community 😁
@@Alice-gr1kb Well in that case I have some problems with my 5yrs old fantasy world, was a little kid when I made it so I put a mediterranean region in between two tropical rainforest...
I have a question, if my planet is orbiting its star in opposite direction, like Neptune's moon Triton, but spins normally, it would affect the climate? 🤔🤔
It would be interesting to see how civilizations wouldve developed on this alternate earth. I imagine most early cultures wouldve still developed around the mediterrean, however, their focus wouldve been to expand more into africa, the middle east, and asia, rather than what we had on earth. South Africa might have seen the development of its own highly developed culture, as its climate may allow for it. Not to mention that a lot of the russian far east wouldve been a lot more habitable. Though, that said, its likely humans would not have developed on a retrograde spinning earth, as the resulting differences in climate wouldve led to a completely different chain of evolutionary history.
Pls make one with more then 1 land mass because I have no clue of my map is done fully correct, (i have one continent wich has warm currents on Both sides, another which is divided into 3 parts but are still around 150km close to each other) I understand the general placement rules but it's a little tricky with multiple landmasses Wich effect each other and currents
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Ok, those conlang people can have you back for a bit, we've had our turn again.
Thank you
I'm glad this joint-custody situation is working out well
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and there’s just me in both groups
Luckily I’m both a conlang and planetary guy so any content is welcome!
Doss same
Same here friend
@@seanezeh2290 would u be willing to share how you think the climate of windsor, canada would be like if the world was retrograde?
@@Alice-gr1kb would u be willing to share how you think the climate of windsor, canada would be like if the world was retrograde?
would u be willing to share how you think the climate of windsor, canada would be like if the world was retrograde?
how would the map change if the planet was like Uranus spin wise?
Josh Tesler sideways? XD
It would be hell.
Oh god
That would almost certainly be a horrific climate map
I guess we will find out in the «High/low obliquity video», but what I'm dying to see is THE HABITABLE MOON BABY
I'd say like a tidally locked climate map, but the sides swap every half year and complete chaos ensues in between.
What occurs to me comparing your retrograde conworld to the hypothetical retrograde earth is that yours is essentially a pangea situation, with a single supercontinent. The retrograde earth, meanwhile, has ocean-specific effects as a result of having not just different oceans but a system between them (that specializes them based on size and position). Unusual phenomena specific to them crops up as a result - the Gulf Stream, ENSO, and so on. I suppose retrograde would alter the assignment of those features, although I'm not clear on why they do in the way the model suggests (my understanding is that the position of the Mediterranean and Himalayas are more key to why there's a mild Europe and monsoon-soaked India versus comparatively desiccated MENA - but this suggests it's not just about size and structure, but also in relation to the rotation??).
Your videos make my worlds so much better
I still await the day of Slow spinning & low axial tilt climates
:( The future will come eventually
Earth is slowing down but not enough to inverting its rotation untill the Sun will die and scorch the Earth untill it'll destroy it.
i want colder/hotter planets
That day will never come. It belongs to a different timeline where he is responsable with the topics he raises. It is not like we asked for those topics.
@@daniel_rossy_explica oof
*Looks at UK and Ireland* Well, I guess having a wet oceanic climate is better than being a frozen wasteland.
We've been a frozen wasteland before and chances are will be again. Question is, will humans be on the British Isles long enough to form an orderly queue to complain about the weather, while complaining about being in a queue quietly under their breath and tutting?
@@MrTrilbe Britians don't complain about queuing... so I'm told. ;-)
@@lizzalkula376 depends why there's a queue.
@@MrTrilbeMrTrilbe don't they live for the queue?
That's what my Brit friends have told me anyways. ;-)
@@lizzalkula376 yes, but woe betide anyone who holds up a queue, they will be the subject of mass muttering and tutting, maybe whispered remarks that are just audible and in extreme cases sarcasm or extreme formal politeness in a passive aggressive manner.
Wouldn't having a single large ocean like yours give rise to absolutely devastating storms if they made landfall? Is there a good way to generalize storm severity/ frequency like how the US East coast has 'hurricane season' or Monsoons/typhoons in the Pacific?
Do you think you'll be able to do a more realistic description of the climates of a tidally-locked planet? Or the climate of a Earth-like Gas Giant moon?
NathanDoesNada I think those were on his list
@@Alice-gr1kb I bet that he forgot and will never make that video.
I think the point of knowing how climates actually work anyways in worldbuilding is kinda like the reason you take music theory if you want to compose music. You don't do it so you can follow all of the rules perfectly all of the time, but instead you know the rules so that you know which ones you can break before it becomes unrealistic or impractical. You need at least some rules to get the creative juices flowing, anyways.
Unless I'm wholly incorrect
I can't wait for the next videos! I've enjoyed this "series" a lot so far.
Would it be possible to do a video on ice ages or other sorta "snowball" worlds? I'm considering doing such a thing, but I wonder how that might look/affect climates etc. Or even if it's a noticeable difference.
PBS Eons channel has recently uploaded two videos on snowball earth, the first on how it happend twice on our planet and the second on life on earth during that time. Could be interesting.
@@6zeekoe9 Yeah, those were brilliant videos!
I'd love to see Artifexian's take on it, but if you need some info now, here's a world climate map during the last polar maximum on Earth. It seems like, in a very general sense, the climate bands we're drawing are basically squished from north and south, with a higher influence compared to modern day on places directly connected to the ice cap by land. Deserts seem to stay where they are. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Maximum#/media/File:Last_Glacial_Maximum_Vegetation_Map.svg
Well, the climate map for a snowball world would be very simple.
With this, you could theoretically create climate maps for a habitable Venus. This is because Venus has a retrograde spin where all the other planets (Earth included) are prograde.
Here's what I'd suspect you'd do for the other scenarios:
Different land-water ratio: Do the same as in previous videos, but take the different amounts of land into consideration
Warmer/cooler: Modify the climates accordingly to adapt to temperatures. In a nutshell, you could use this in your world to simulate global warming (warmer temperatures) or a global ice age (cooler temperatures).
Faster/slower spin: Modify accordingly to adapt to stronger/weaker trade winds and faster/slower ocean currents.
High/low obliquity (axial tilt): Modify accordingly to account for the tropic/polar circles being in different spots.
Tidelocked: Modify to adapt to the different day/night cycle
Habitable Moon: Set trade winds and ocean currents, and use scenarios above for your moon.
Oh, you'll be surprised. It's not that simple. Especially the moon one, because you'll have to account for eclipse time (otherwise it would be boring)
The retrograde thing is very little to do with why Venus is so hot. The slow rotation has far more of an effect, but the big thing is it's just close to the Sun and massive enough to retain an atmosphere. To have a habitable Venus it needs to be further out, and we kinda already have a planet there. ;)
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I think something worth mentioning is that rain shadows also create a lot of rain in rivers on the unshaded side. So in some ways perhaps the reason the Amazon is so green may have to do with the Andes. Particularly as that water then re-evaporates through transpiration and river surface evaporation and then gets blocked by the mountains *again*
Can’t wait to see the others on the list, particularly different land water ratio. I’m making a star system with four terrestrial habitable planets in resonant orbits, and I’m planning the inner one to be 20-30% water and the outer one to be 80-90% water.
Don't hold your breath. He has forgotten about those videos.
@@daniel_rossy_explica Sigh. One can only dream.
@@dionemoolman indeed. But I try to be realistic (others would say pessimistic, but I digress)
Edgar, I have a request for a video. How would plants look on a planet orbiting a binary star? Perhaps ones with white dwarfs and stars? Would they just be a mix of the colours both stars make plants look?
yay more weather stuff. I finally have a map but it's mostly just continents without mountains. So I'll have to place those somewhere before I work out weather patterns.
kairon156 I would suggest using plates
@@Alice-gr1kb I have watched Artifexian's videos on plates but I always struggle with finding good looking places to put them.
kairon156 mostly just place them anywhere. I would maybe suggest using squiggly things as a reference like asphalt
I am actually very glad that you did bunch of world building, you did it right when I needed it. Thank you for doing everything you already have done. I do enjoy your con lang videos too though… looking forward to your next one either way.
I'm excited for the conlanging, but I've been worldbuilding a lot lately and have been loving these vids. Especially the one with Clorox and Niflheim!
plese make how to do mountainous climates
So in mountainous regions near oceans with onshore winds you will get oceanic-esque climates (Cfa I believe) like in Sichuan. Mostly just remember that rainshadows will affect the whole leeward side of the mountain range, as seen with the deserts accross Tibet. High altitude mountains will also have tundra, like in much of Nepal and the Alps. Lastly if you have a Monsoon or some wind reversal taking place then you will probably have Dw climates
Tropical mountain regions if high enough will likely have C climates, and the leeward side of mountains will be cold desert and steppe if wet enough
Also interesting: Mountains usually bring with them climate zones running parallel to the mountain, dependant more on the altitude rather than how far north or south you are. This is why the Maya civilization worked.
@@Chrischi3TutorialLPs you mean the Incan civilization, right?
@@kyleharrell4853 Possible.
Your retrograde planet looks a lot hotter than the prograde version.
that retrograde earth sounds like a good scenario
Great video series! It would be interesting to see your take on a theoretical alternative / past Earth climate e.g. a greener Sahara. I particularly feel as if there is a gold mine of tales to be written based on a speculative ancient society at the Richat, in what is now present day Mauritania.
amazing world building!
0:09 We are still waiting for the next variations (dif. land/water ratio, faster/slower spin, high/low obliquity, tidally locked and habitable moon) hope they release soon and they are not completely forgotten.
I'm commenting on everyone that asked the same, with the same answer: he has forgotten. I don't think he would ever do videos on those topics. Same as with the Resonant Orbits.
@@daniel_rossy_explica Hope a patreon can remember him
@@PlanetESPYREX If anyone could tell the patreons he always thanks (Ripta Passey, world anvil, etc), maybe he would get notified.
I've been considering becoming a patron just for this reason. I need that slow/fast rotation video.
Have you ever done a Twin Worlds thing? Like if Earth and Theia had gotten into a stable orbit around one another instead of crashing into each other and creating Luna?
Did you hear that? As you can see, behind my computer screen, I am giving this man some applause. Oh and a share
That whole thing with the retrograde Earth and the swaps of everything is super odd and interesting. I wonder if it's just like because of mountains and the new rainshadow for the Americas, but the shifts of wind patterns like the monsoon and ENSO to the West is super odd.
I would also like to mention that I still think that there should be more hot steppe on the rainshadow side and interior of the equatorial cell. The region just above the equator might be too dry for too long to have the rain for a savanna, so I would think the desert would extend South, then steppe filling in the equator because what little moisture left in that air will rain out on the steppe. I would imagine that continues until around 20° east and in the south, where your rainforest lies.
Emeraldstar_14 yes I agree. I think maybe the monsoon shifted with the trade winds though so it’s reversal went to Arabia
Can't wait for the other 6 planetary/environmental factor videos!
That flip of El Ninõ would be a cool alt earth feature and would make the Indian Ocean even more interesting. How different wouldn't Australia be!
Yaratoma it finally wouldn’t be a big empty desert!
The Retrograde Earth looks an awful lot like Chris Wayan's Turnovia concept over on World Dream Bank.
Take a drink every time he says, "Prograde. Retrograde." Actually, don't. I don't want to be responsible for any liver damage that ensues.
Love all these planet/ world building related videos
Prograde… Retrograde
Number one? Or number two?
I just happened across this video and found you here too. Hecking spook.
Worldbuilding is my passion
I like to pop and lock and delineate
Interesting video as always, Edgar, especially in how the climates differ due to the direction of rotation. Even more so as how odd Earth would have been if it was retrograde rather than pro grade, and good advise on which method to choose.
Speaking of methods, I forgot to note in the previous entries in the subject that the mountains and coastlines are a bit different when compared to the cartography map of earlier when designing the highlands and ocean depths. I'm assuming that we'll get a detailed video on rivers and erosion both water and wind?
And speaking of mountains, any chance that we'll also get altitude-based climate video as well?
Either way, thanks for the video.
Sabersonic for altitude the Windward side of high regions near coasts will be Cfa and other oceanic-esque climates
Will you cover the other topics that were on the board at 0:12?
Notice that he dind't responded. He has forgottten those topics and since moved on.
Next part when?
Sorry, I'm really excited for the other parts.
I’ve been waiting for exactly this for such a long time! Thanks for making the video. First too.
I'm looking forward to when the video of the climates of the tidally locked planets arrives😍😊 I love your videos!
Two years.... and nothing has happened. He has moved on, forget it.
bUT eDGaR
WhAT aBOUt tIDalLy lOckeD plAnetS?
Space Cowboy Isaac Arthur has you covered...a bit. ua-cam.com/video/K7OloPuLMpA/v-deo.html
DESERT ON THE SUN SIDE, TUNDRA ON THE OTHER AND BETWEEN IS PLAINS
I love this series!!
Looking forward to the hotter/colder world.
Love the world building videos! Thanks
Id like to see how to make a worlds which is closer to the star (hotter worlds) and worlds which is farther from its star (colder world)
(sorry if i had a mistakes im not a native english speaker)
I guess they would just be warmer/colder.
Do similar changes to climates happen underwater (temperature shifts, etc.) when you reverse orbit, and would this have an effect on local sea level and coastline?
Temperature shifts shouldnt really affect sea level
I think that would have to do with how much light the planet reflects or absorbs form it's star(s). More it absorbs the higher water it might have. the less it absorbs the more ice it'll have and lower water.
PROGRADE
RETROGRADE
How would you do a rocky planet that is significantly larger than earth? Would you just make change the range of precipitation, or would there be anything else you would say should be taken into account?
deffinitely nobody much much drier in the center. Rainshadows will also be smaller
Dry dry dry. Most large land masses will have more desert
In a retrograde Earth my home here in Pennsylvania would be famous for wine and wildfires, and we'd have no snow in the winters lol.
bonecanoe86 my state would be largely the same, but Rainier
Now what would happen if the planet had a different axial tilt from the Earth, especially one like Uranus's axial tilt?
He did a video based on axial tilt a while back. But he just said where the different temperature ranges would be.
Video: ua-cam.com/video/J4K3H9aNLpE/v-deo.html
great video as always :)
Wouldn’t it be possible to get an accurate retrograde climate by flipping the map, following your prograde tutorial, then flipping it back?
xenontesla122 don't flip it back
Not really. Flip the winds and currents then follow his tutorial.
Was hoping there'd be something about what happens for a planet in a fairly elliptical orbit - not so much that it ever drifts out of its habitable zone, but enough that it creates a significant different average temperature when the planet is closer/further from its star (by a few degrees)... now that I think about it, is that a climate question or a seasons one?
dizadaza seasonal
So will we get an episode about worldbuilding and music theory to make music and instruments and stuff for our cultures?
I would love that but he mentioned once that he wouldn't do that because he has such an extensive background in it
I personally would advice you, to watch a channel about music theory for such stuff.
GameTornado01 yeah like 12tone or Adam Neely. Also looking at instruments from paleolothic and Neolithic times is helpful for instrument making
Worldbuilding Notes has a video like this.
ua-cam.com/video/rFR9PEMgr3M/v-deo.html
I originally went into this channel for conlanging, guess it got me into worldbuilding
Ok so, let's try to explain some of the retrograde simulation with our model here:
1. The Eastern Sahara gets its trade winds from Arabia. The western Sahara gets its trade winds from the Eastern Sahara. I think to figure this out you really need to look way over to the east and you'll see there's damn near no water for the Sahara.
2. In retrograde, this problem doesn't exist. We can safely mark the Sahara as tropical Savannah or something with essentially zero concern for where the water is coming from. Especially in the western portion. It's affected by warm currents and onshore winds.
2. Europe freezing: well yes. The weirdness isn't that Europe freezes in retrograde. It's that it doesn't freeze in prograde. paris is over 48 degrees North. Berlin is over 52. It would be cold or literally polar currents and offshore winds!! Europe would literally be western Siberia.
Vladivostok is cold currents and offshore winds at 43 North. So if anything we should expect the South of france to be like Vladivostok is now.
Retrograde earth climate is surprising
I'm excited for the Land to Water Ratio video. My current World is 50/50 Land to water and I'm curious how that impacts it, finding good resources is hard.
DM Joe it will be dry in the center, much drier than like the Sahara possibly
I suggest that you don't wait and try to figure it out for youself. He has forgotten about it.
Edgar Out!
honestly, it was a swap placement on the earth one, just more of swapping climate on sides of oceans rather than sides of continents, which honestly makes sense to me
Could you do another terrestrial moons video?
Isn't that basically rotating the map 180º and continuing as before?
Isn't a "retrograde" planet just one that has the orientation of the maps changed? If we put, as the Chinese used to do, Antarctica at the top of our maps, then Earth would be spinning retrograde, the Sun rising toward the left side of our maps. Just be sure to put your sunrise direction to the right side of your maps, and then there's no need for any of this kind of complication.
When you've finally finished all of those options at 0:10, could you do a video for designing gas giant clouds and colours? I'd love to see how to make a unique and realistic gas giant or ice giant.
If you wait for him to complete any list, you will die waiting.
If the next video will be about conlanging, and if you pop between the two types every month, then the climates for my 0º of axial tilt world wil be in next year's march...
Or never.
Can you add steps of climate changes on elevation? Like 300 m 500 m 800 m 1200 m 2000 m 3000 m etc?
Naima higher regions are colder, so cold deserts on the leeward side and if near the tropics or in them, subtropical highland climates in the windward side. Most lower elevation mountain ranges won’t have as high an effect on temperature also.
In my travels I have seen alpine forest and even snow in places where u would expect palm trees and jungles.
Cool
How many more videos until we get to see you teach us how to make apple pie?
I'm waiting for a video about where different types of crops grow. naturally or otherwise.
did he ever make the "high/low" obliquity one? I'd be very very interested in how climates would work when the obliquity is high enough that the tropical and polar circles overlap
When are the videos on climates for warmer planets with higher/lower obliquity coming?
I'm thinking of doing a bit of worldbuilding myself, mainly fantasy, but nonethless I would like to ask how would how the climate be effected if the planet was 1.5x,2x or 2.5x the size of Earth. Basically a Super-Earth or Mega-Earth.
ted stapleton more deserts especially in the interiors.most settlements would be in the coasts
CHALLENGE: Can do you a Climate map of earth based on your information shown in your _wonderfully_ crafted videos? I'd really like to see you compare the one you made, & the Real Earth one!
However... You can't use the earth data, a basic earth map, & MS Paint, PShop, or whatever u use.
Big thanks from a *big* fan!
Isn't retrograde just the same as prograde for something that's upside down?
yes
Surely "retrograde" rotation means just flipping the map upside down before you start? In fact, I would have thought that you start with East is the direction of rotation, West is the opposite when labelling the directions on an alien planet in the first place? It's interesting to compare the same map with prograde and retrograde versions, but other than that it seems odd to talk about it. For a fast-rotating world, the impact on the solar/sidereal day ratio is negligible, so it shouldn't matter.
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what the hell is this classification? There is no way Chicago and Arkhangelsk are in the same category (prograde)
Konstantin Pakhomov it’s Köppen without 3rd letters, so Chicago and Arxangelesk are both in the same continental wet climate, despite one being a/b and the other subarctic.
Please could you do a video on lakes and rivers, building off of your climate videos?
Omg you uploaded! I've been watching your account for this!
Oof I sound like a stalker
I know the number of wind currents is determined by spin speed, but is there anything else that affects that? Say the atmosphere was much thicker on a smaller planet, or much thinner on a larger planet, or vice versa of any of those. Could a planet with the same day length as Earth have 5+ wind cells?
Gunnar Molstad likely not
I like how there are hours above hours on work and still the terms "quick" and "easy" are used
How would a world with floating islands/continents work, ala the floating mountains in Avatar? Would any of these rules really apply or would everything be up in the air?
I guess it would depend on:
1. How high is it?
2. How far Inland is it.
If your floating Islands were too high or too far inland, they would be unaffected by warm/cold ocean currents and they would be dryer. Also, the higher up they would be, the colder they would be.
Please don't torture me with mapmaking while I can't access my computer.
Step 1: rotate the map 180 degrees
Step 2: do the winds, currents, and climate like you would normally
Step 3: rotate the map 180 degrees again
Now you have the climates of a retrograde planet while having made it in prograde. Huzzah!
What program do u use to make these maps?
Luuk Leunissen I think Photoshop
Train Jackson yeah I use paint.net or paper
Do you have any videos on different kinds of "seasons"? Like for example how ancient Egypt didn't have coventional seasons, but rather growing season, harvesting season and flooded season.
Nout van der Hidde the 4 seasons only really exist in Mediterranean, oceanic, and continental climates. Monsoon and savanna will yield a dry season, wet season, and in more poleward regions a winter. Changes in local weather often become seasons or the times when things happen, like harvest season.
Can you make a video showing how ice ages could work in fictional worlds?
I won't complain if you go into detail about the weird situations in that paper.
Morning
0:13 looking sadly out the window wishing the other possible climate zone videos had been done 😢
I’m curious as to how axial tilt would affect climates. Would it just extend equatorial climates. For example, for a planet with an axial tilt of 30 degrees, would you extend the tropical climates out an extra 10 or so degrees
What if it spins really fast or really slow?
Love the video Artifexian! I'm building a map with essentially an upside down NZ in the northern hemisphere between 50-65° with a retrograde spin. My main question is how much would be oceanic? In my world, my east sides are heavily oceanic, so will that make my leeside interiors of big mountains subartic, with tundra at the far north? Or is it still largely oceanic due to it being an island with influence from on shore winds (despite a big cold current coming southwards on the west side)? In the real world NZ and the UK are almost if not entirely oceanic, (whilst bearing in mind that NZ has a lower latitude and the UK has the gulf stream to enable an oceanic climate) and I'm wondering how oceanic my location will be compared to this. Many thanks to you and the community 😁
How would climates work on a planet with two stars? Will it have two equators or not, and wil it affect the tides. if so how?
I doubt it would. It would probably be in line with the stars
@@Alice-gr1kb Well in that case I have some problems with my 5yrs old fantasy world, was a little kid when I made it so I put a mediterranean region in between two tropical rainforest...
Troy Breddels that's a cool thing though. I think if you do have your world offset from the stars ecliptic plane then it would work.
Do you mean that the planet is kind of diagonally up to the stars?
Troy Breddels yeah
I have a question, if my planet is orbiting its star in opposite direction, like Neptune's moon Triton, but spins normally, it would affect the climate? 🤔🤔
Csn u explain better itcz influence on monsoons and enso?
Naima yeah. He ignored the itcz shift
So basically if the itcz moves more to the north in the summer you will get northern monsoons on the coast of large continents
Yo anybody doing any speculative zoology on that retrograde earth already? Cause if nobody else will I will.
It would be interesting to see how civilizations wouldve developed on this alternate earth. I imagine most early cultures wouldve still developed around the mediterrean, however, their focus wouldve been to expand more into africa, the middle east, and asia, rather than what we had on earth. South Africa might have seen the development of its own highly developed culture, as its climate may allow for it. Not to mention that a lot of the russian far east wouldve been a lot more habitable. Though, that said, its likely humans would not have developed on a retrograde spinning earth, as the resulting differences in climate wouldve led to a completely different chain of evolutionary history.
So when's the rest of the list in the video coming out?
Pls make one with more then 1 land mass because I have no clue of my map is done fully correct, (i have one continent wich has warm currents on Both sides, another which is divided into 3 parts but are still around 150km close to each other)
I understand the general placement rules but it's a little tricky with multiple landmasses Wich effect each other and currents
Could you show us how to make things on gplates?
TheMrGazoline take the map out, use a paint program and make it, then put it in gplates