Yeah, tow missiles take time because they trail the crosshairs. Practice watching the missile instead of the crosshairs. They also launch off rails that are below the pilot. So they start below the crosshairs. I line up the bottom of the crosshairs before I fire then watch for the flames of its engine. You have to really lead the target too. I would say the majority of my hits are more luck than skill, but it still feels great when they hit.
This is actually unreal, between the 2 of you, you manage 68 kills while being constantly locked onto by mobile AA, stingers and attacked by jets all game.
That MAA was an absolute noob though. Where are the Active Radar or Passive Radar missiles? Sending even one AR missile their way would force them to retreat. If they still push him, then he could hide behind cover and wait for their barrage to finish before coming out and sending more missiles their way, but the MAA chose to sit out right in the open. Easy tactics for countering helis and jets, but these players don't use them.
My wife and I used to be this good. Its all about timing and knowing your threats. I never realized you could reset flares by popping in and out. Well, wait, you guys are swapping seats? I never flew with another pilot before. :(
I wanted to play with the viper a few hours ago, but 2 idiots constantly stole the helicopter from me and died. They had a score of 0-17. I finally got to the gunner. but my pilot was one of those 2 idiots and He asked me to get off the helicopter and I said no, he blew up the helicopter, so it was a real battlefield moment.
I always end up in these scenarios where I spawn as a gunner, the pilot spam tells me to get out and flies away from the map so I can't shoot TVs, until they eventually blow themselves up.
Was gunner yesterday in hands down the best pilot of an apache I've had the pleasure to play with (that wasn't spamming get out) . On this map too. He was insane. He was in RAGE clan. Hope to meet him again (as long as I'm on his team).
That's how passive radar missiles are supposed to be used though, so nobody should feel guilt for using them. The "prefire then lock on at the last second" tactic is even described in the BF4 wiki for passive radar missiles.
@@xanderabbey8529 I think there is no problem, but every server I play on it seems like there is some stigma around it -- like the old "noob tube" thing with MW.
@@xanderabbey8529 the issue isn't the prefiring and getting the lock on at the last second, it's that the missiles suddenly turns around and basically teleports to the locked target at insane unreactable speed even if the Missile is far away from the target, but also it tends to glitch to where both missiles impact without the pilot even getting a notification for the lock-on attempt. If the rocket had to be kinda close to the locked target to be able to track you could actually spot the rocket coming at you and the MAA had to lead the Passives like they have to do with Actives.
@@solidzack This is interesting. I never really get into air vehicles, so I never know how passive radar missiles affect pilots. It's an interesting perspective, though I'm certainly going to carry on using passive radar missiles, precisely for these reasons. No lock warning, crazy speed, sheer unpredictability, and good damage per missile = great anti-air weapon.
Would you consider adding a screen effect or a sound that plays when you switch your POV with Cosair? i find it a bit jarring when you switch perspectives without warning or an indication.
yes, you're right *cough* SILK *cough* (same guy who recently said he's flying with one of the best pilots in the world and they didn't even hit a single tow in a certain recent video *cough*)
FLIR vs Zoom optics? I guess it depends on map but usually I have zoom for larger maps like firestorm. I suppose there were a lot of javelins so you had thermal optics for easy spotting
So I can get C4 in a vehicle. No thank you. But you know what would be cool though, having a drone fly behind your tank to activate a 3rd person perspective, and the enemy can shoot it down forcing 1st person. For helicopter... I don't know, an extendable camera (as in a collapsible baton or another one as a antenna that retracts) on the tail wing. Jets, no 3rd person. Maybe a rear-view camera? On its dashboard, for example, battlefield 4 jdam screen or guided missile. Well those are my thoughts lol what do you think would be cool?
@@skylosfoxtrot2350 not tanks since c4 but yeah for helis and jets. Also i have feeling that the helis will be not as crazy strong like b4 which is good.
@@michaelsanderson2913 Lmao you really think you're playing a different game. Its the same game, except the weapon balance is dogshit, you have no idea how much ammo you have (in real life you would know how many mags you have left), and vehicles, except for jets, are way more overpowered.
@@airgasmYT Jets in Hardcore are way harder but Stealth Jets can be quite effective since the 30 chip damage from the laser guided missiles can't easily be recovered, plus no Air Radar and no 3rd person backwards spotting to abuse the Base AA makes it so the pilot with a better situational awareness can easily get many surprise kills.
If the pilot hops out of a vehicle and back in, it will unspot the vehicle. Its impossible on console because you have to hold button to enter/exit a vehicle. On PC you just *click*
Impressive but it would be even more so if he were to use the choppers that aren’t as good (Russian and Chinese version). All the pro pilots just use the American attack heli. It’s objectively the best. But I think it would be even more skillful to show these kill streaks using the choppers that aren’t as good. You never ever see them though
How are those people on E not bots?, they keep trying to use lock-ons and fail every. single. time. How could someone who isn't a robot play like that the entire game?
I just do NOT understand how people can be so good with Tow Missles
I think it's just practice.
Also being frustrated and angry while playing won't let you get better (that's my experience) :D
Same. They seem so accurate when they're coming towards me. Not so much when I use them lol.
Yeah, tow missiles take time because they trail the crosshairs. Practice watching the missile instead of the crosshairs. They also launch off rails that are below the pilot. So they start below the crosshairs. I line up the bottom of the crosshairs before I fire then watch for the flames of its engine. You have to really lead the target too.
I would say the majority of my hits are more luck than skill, but it still feels great when they hit.
@@briand8090. That makes sense and probably explains a lot lol thanks for the tip.
@@michaelsanderson2913 Good hunting
that was amazing but for the enemy team is the worst experience you can have in BF4. I hate playing against a great helicopter team
me too
a great AA can bring down a great helicopter team
Like me…
@@Matchleader with the help of a jet yes, otherwise not really
Great gameplay ! Honestly, I prefer this kind of video than the usual Shangai farming we can see on many channels !
Can you give my chopper vids a critique?
I get out to rep the heli and the pilot flies away 😭
Play with a friend then instead of with a noob who will crash the Helikopter inside a minute
TOW shots on the jets were just insane. I love all your videos but this is the best one I’ve seen in a while, keep up the great work!!!
When you play the game so long, you know how to drive the TV missile over a mountain.
TV missiles are SOOOO good if you know how to use them...
@@Gibby34340 they are the reason that people hate attack helis and honestly, I understand
That spotting on echo really shows you how useful the MAV can be
I know. In all these videos the entire enemy team is lit up like a Christmas tree, but every time I get in an air vehicle I can never see anyone.
I have been able to help turn the tide of a war simply by dedicating myself to the MAV.
Pilot gets in and out to break the lock.....not exactly sporting behavior, but effective!
That's not what it does.
@@cosairfps yes it does
@@shanecasey8405 all it does is unspot you.
Amazing vid! Good fun watching dual vid!
Great flying...the best way to get a guy like this.. ucav when they duck to wait/repair
This is true definition of A 'team play'
How battlefield players imagine themselves in the Air Force
This is actually unreal, between the 2 of you, you manage 68 kills while being constantly locked onto by mobile AA, stingers and attacked by jets all game.
That MAA was an absolute noob though. Where are the Active Radar or Passive Radar missiles? Sending even one AR missile their way would force them to retreat. If they still push him, then he could hide behind cover and wait for their barrage to finish before coming out and sending more missiles their way, but the MAA chose to sit out right in the open. Easy tactics for countering helis and jets, but these players don't use them.
I do that solo
YES! Would love to see more of this sans Shanghai.
Very nice transitions can we get more content like this and tell Cosair we need more meme videos
My wife and I used to be this good. Its all about timing and knowing your threats. I never realized you could reset flares by popping in and out. Well, wait, you guys are swapping seats? I never flew with another pilot before. :(
I wanted to play with the viper a few hours ago, but 2 idiots constantly stole the helicopter from me and died. They had a score of 0-17. I finally got to the gunner. but my pilot was one of those 2 idiots and He asked me to get off the helicopter and I said no, he blew up the helicopter, so it was a real battlefield moment.
yeah i feel you man, happens to everyone im afraid
Wow... Noobs in the heli, and salty ones at that... That's one helluva combination XD
I always end up in these scenarios where I spawn as a gunner, the pilot spam tells me to get out and flies away from the map so I can't shoot TVs, until they eventually blow themselves up.
I just change teams and farm them for the fun of it
The only way to beat a great heli team, is to have a great engineer team. (Or jets, they also work.)
flying in Planetside 2 has a very high skill ceiling as well
Was gunner yesterday in hands down the best pilot of an apache I've had the pleasure to play with (that wasn't spamming get out) . On this map too. He was insane. He was in RAGE clan. Hope to meet him again (as long as I'm on his team).
Lol he got the roadkill bonus when TVing the paratrooper.
ucavs with airburst, the chopper evacuator, enemy team should have used laser lockons more, lol
That's what I was thinking. Just to get him to dump his countermeasures and hide until they reset at the very least.
Laser and Javelin is good combo and guided tank shell soflam hard to beat
4:59 he got a roadkill, i cant even
The enemy team is definitely crying in chat
it's just clean .. like always.
The enemies didnt like it!
Best pilots bar none! That was an amazing game. 👊🏻🤩
After me
Hard level for a heli, epic work guys
Something I've never been good at doing in BF.. flying. I'm so bad I don't even really try any more.
This is why I feel zero guilt for prefiring passives. I might land 1 out of 5 on them, and that would be the only chance I'd have to survive.
That's how passive radar missiles are supposed to be used though, so nobody should feel guilt for using them. The "prefire then lock on at the last second" tactic is even described in the BF4 wiki for passive radar missiles.
@@xanderabbey8529 I think there is no problem, but every server I play on it seems like there is some stigma around it -- like the old "noob tube" thing with MW.
@@XXelpollodiabloXX Ha, those people have to get the hell over it then. It works well, so they should use it.
@@xanderabbey8529 the issue isn't the prefiring and getting the lock on at the last second, it's that the missiles suddenly turns around and basically teleports to the locked target at insane unreactable speed even if the Missile is far away from the target, but also it tends to glitch to where both missiles impact without the pilot even getting a notification for the lock-on attempt. If the rocket had to be kinda close to the locked target to be able to track you could actually spot the rocket coming at you and the MAA had to lead the Passives like they have to do with Actives.
@@solidzack This is interesting. I never really get into air vehicles, so I never know how passive radar missiles affect pilots. It's an interesting perspective, though I'm certainly going to carry on using passive radar missiles, precisely for these reasons. No lock warning, crazy speed, sheer unpredictability, and good damage per missile = great anti-air weapon.
Would you consider adding a screen effect or a sound that plays when you switch your POV with Cosair? i find it a bit jarring when you switch perspectives without warning or an indication.
Lol its easy to see when he switch between pilot and gunner seat
I personally find it really easy to tell the difference but I take your point on board. I can add some text next time to label which is which?
@@AKAARTOFFICIAL please do I get confused all the time aswell
@@AKAARTOFFICIAL that would be great, thank you. i am looking forward to your 2042 content when we get our hands on it :)
Just look at the names on the bottom right to see their positions, if you noticed the camera switch then you'll figure it out right?
Insane duo
Ahhhhhh! The (stinger) is really really bad for us and you😤😤😤
1:02 lol
Made that berm his wifu. LOL.
My gosh 😱 Really Monster 💪💪💪💪💪💪
You are trying heli for first time and suddenly you are facing these two beasts on the enemy team
Damn GOOD flying!
Top players ever I’m amazed by how he control the TV
My first time hearing cosair
Know that's how you fly 😉
That aa was so mad lol
Great round… 9 mins great hit on the fly
Excellent video!
That was brilliant to watch.
Great flying ... just didn't like you were basically attacking their base at some point
Yeah that pisses me off too. If I was in their map that video would not be possible.I’m a chopper beast above all
Noone talking about the roadkill at 4:56? 😂
ohhhhh damn bf4
Love your videos
I wish I was this good but I have a job
Notice how they don't just baserape the enemy team like a certain heli/plane abuser. *cough* SILK *cough*
yes, you're right *cough* SILK *cough*
(same guy who recently said he's flying with one of the best pilots in the world and they didn't even hit a single tow in a certain recent video *cough*)
FLIR vs Zoom optics? I guess it depends on map but usually I have zoom for larger maps like firestorm. I suppose there were a lot of javelins so you had thermal optics for easy spotting
Dislikes are from the aggressive AA
pilot is nice
I heard rumours that BF 2042 beta it's goona be on Saturday
I have a question, why does the pilot keep jumping out? Is that a accident or does that actually do something lol
Unspots them
@@dominickboardman4474 Oh okay, thanks!
Is your video sped up? I have the impression that the gameplay is faster than usual
Nice!! Completely destroyed them
Seat swapping banned on most servers for this exact reason, hopefully there will be cut scenes again in 2042
i hope Dice remove the the 3nd point of view for air and ground vehicles in next Battlefield
So I can get C4 in a vehicle. No thank you.
But you know what would be cool though, having a drone fly behind your tank to activate a 3rd person perspective, and the enemy can shoot it down forcing 1st person.
For helicopter... I don't know, an extendable camera (as in a collapsible baton or another one as a antenna that retracts) on the tail wing.
Jets, no 3rd person. Maybe a rear-view camera? On its dashboard, for example, battlefield 4 jdam screen or guided missile.
Well those are my thoughts lol what do you think would be cool?
@@skylosfoxtrot2350 not tanks since c4 but yeah for helis and jets.
Also i have feeling that the helis will be not as crazy strong like b4 which is good.
Play hardcore
Awesome!
11:40 whaaaaaaaat?!
whats the point of jumping out and in as pilot?
What’s with the jumping out of the chopper all the time?
Unspots the heli I think
lets all pray bf 2042 is going to be at least same good as bf4, i dont want to cry about those 89.99eur for gold edition i paid in preorder ( again )
What is ur vehicle sensitivity?
POG
So easy to spot and fly with 3rd person view and 3d spotting
Try that on hardcore
Plus the aircraft damage and health self-heal. It's lame to see skilled players on regular servers.
@@briand8090. That's the thing. They're no good on hardcore.
@@michaelsanderson2913 Lmao you really think you're playing a different game. Its the same game, except the weapon balance is dogshit, you have no idea how much ammo you have (in real life you would know how many mags you have left), and vehicles, except for jets, are way more overpowered.
@@airgasmYT Jets in Hardcore are way harder but Stealth Jets can be quite effective since the 30 chip damage from the laser guided missiles can't easily be recovered, plus no Air Radar and no 3rd person backwards spotting to abuse the Base AA makes it so the pilot with a better situational awareness can easily get many surprise kills.
Why does he jump out/in mid flight? What does that do?
I think it un spots you
@@popnoodlez thanks
If the pilot hops out of a vehicle and back in, it will unspot the vehicle. Its impossible on console because you have to hold button to enter/exit a vehicle. On PC you just *click*
Raw
I bet they were so salty with there lock-ons 😂😂😂😂😂 half the enemy team were focused on you guys
...Hold my beer
@0:29 I'll never get why people do that lol
why do pilots in bf4 jump out midflight and jump back in like at 0:30 , hud didnt show any change
Getting in and out of the vehicle unspots you and takes you off the mini map
@@ThreeNTheMornin ahhhhh, makes sense
@@ThreeNTheMornin even with a gunner?
Problem with attack heli ?? Answer = sabot round+50cal+zoom optics+2000++hour experience
fkn awesome...
Why do you keep jumping in and out?
and here is another one
Me casually watching “this is nice gameplay “
Notices the dislike “ so … you have chosen death “
i might give you another one after the video
And 8:06 what kind of weapon is this? How did you have this and weapon in 2:25
TV missile for the gunner and tow missile for the pilot
Cosair
Savage
2:25 what kind of weapon is this?
Gunners TV missile I believe.
Finally
Now do sablo
I love your videos do 2042
Please I love bf4 and I hope 2042 is a good game
I really dont want to be in your enemies team
God PC is so spastic.
hovering degenerates
How fly in bf4??? Welcome channel eshaeone 4 Years ago i top 3 pilot chooper ;)
Huh?
Impressive but it would be even more so if he were to use the choppers that aren’t as good (Russian and Chinese version). All the pro pilots just use the American attack heli. It’s objectively the best. But I think it would be even more skillful to show these kill streaks using the choppers that aren’t as good. You never ever see them though
Algera on ps3 is amazing in the crap ones. Ps3 you cant change the factions
Or hardcore
here have a comment
Mouse playing pc that strife like that is just not realistic that's why it shouldent be cross play and stability ner=ds
fuking legends .
Way much better than porlosco
No, he's better
@@cosairfps nope . I watched you both , he miss the target a lot with tow missile
@@ashrquan so do I, as does everyone.
@@cosairfps schöne Antworten 😇 ich denke jeder hat so seine prime phasen in einem match.. es ist einfach schön beiden zugucken zu dürfen 🤜🤛
@@cosairfps I appreciate your humility، but he misses much more than you do
How are those people on E not bots?, they keep trying to use lock-ons and fail every. single. time. How could someone who isn't a robot play like that the entire game?
Uh… I’m better. Hope you’re on my side…
PC players more accurate
28 seconds ago….
SO disgusted