We Have Problems… Off Grid Water Struggles
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So I installed a pump in my creek. The pool I located the pump is 470 feet (distance) away from my house, and 90 feet of vertical rise. I did a ton of research. I decided to do what the well/water experts strongly advised me against doing. They recommended two or three pumps with the first pump down by the creek, but sitting up on the bank. It seemed complicated and prone to problems, and priming that type of system can be a pain. I installed an standard 10 stage, 230 volt vertical submersible pump, the same pump that is used in well holes. The experts told me the high flow from winter storms would drive boulders, rocks and logs into my pump and destroy it. They were right about the storms, logs, boulders and rocks. I had the wiring harness ripped out of the pump twice. I had the pump ripped off the 1" diameter steel pipe once and found the pump two pools down but still tethered to the steel cable (backup) I secured it with. The pump finally gave out, after 22 years! When I took the pump in to the well shop to get diagnosed, the service tech looked at the battered stainless housing and was amazed. He said in over 20 years he had never seen anything like it. The pump looked like it had been through a war. But for 22 years that trusty pump (3/4 horsepower) provided me and then my family with almost uninterrupted fresh water.
If I were in your situation, I would dig as deep a hole18" or so in diameter right where that little pool is. Get a length of 12" steel pipe one foot longer than your hole is deep. Drill holes in the pipe (perforate) to allow water to seep in. Wrap the pipe in stainless steel screen to help keep debris out but let the water in. Make a cap for it out of steel plate. Mount the pump to the cap using a 1" steel nipple welded half in/half out in the center of the cap. Get a spool of well pump wire (usually three strand red/yellow/black). All you will need is one pump, if you get a real well pump as 3/4 to 1hp, as well pumps can easily lift water 300' vertical.
Sadie is blossoming from a baby into a beautiful little girl before our eyes. 👧🏻With nature surrounding her, and the encouragement of two wonderful parents, she's developing her autonomy through her sweet imagination to bring the world around her to life. Such a lucky little girl to be experiencing this wonderful childhood. Much love and blessings abundant to you each.💞🙏
I know that all parents think so, but I feel like Sadie is extremely intelligent and way above her milestones. It’s amazing to see how well she talks, walks and how much she understands.
Totally agree! Riding on their backs is a great teacher!!
So true! Sadie is progressing, thriving and learning so much about the environment!
@@Lobaby55 I ran federal and state child literacy programs including a First Five program. We worked with parents to teach them what the milestones are and ways to interact with their children to help them reach those milestones. Assessing children zero to five is what I did for seven years. Sadie is doing wonderfully. It's important to point out though that children go through phases. I've seen children at four that were blowing us away in how far out in front of their peers they were, and then by second or third grade, they had dropped back to very average. I would liken it to growth spurts on the social, emotional, cognitive level. The most promising sign I've observed in Sadie is that when she was around 8 months, she was very tuned into her environment and was very contemplative, calm, and didn't express signs of being over stimulated. You could see her observing her environment and taking it in. It is an aspect of being receptive to information and curious about one's world.
@@Graybeard_ pp0
100% agree
You have a way of connecting with your audience like very few others. You have such a fun, upbeat, positive outlook on your journey too. Thank you for sharing your lives with us!
I think testing or having it tested for quality should be the first step. That may make the decision for you and keep the family safe. Keep up the amazing life and content.
They don’t think that far !!!!
@@irenekegel5988 they have a filtration system for their rainwater. It will not be a drinking source and if so a filtration system they would install. Baby steps.
@@jodymooney255 did you see their filtration system ? Do what are you going to use it for ! Does not look safe for a baby
@@irenekegel5988 🤔🙄🤐
yep, quality may help u decide. l also think both is a best bet/back up water IS that important... as another guy said, scab into the existing .. some future crops will need more h20 too remember!
Amazing, a child not being raised on chicken nuggets 😁. I can't blame Sadie for loving her home.
Jordan, as a plumber I would strongly recommend using a composting toilet to get black water out of your environment and save heaps of water. You can recycle grey water using a reed bed system for watering the plants! Love the videos guys! 👍🇦🇺💜
They tried the composting toilet already. It did not work well in the environment where they are, if I recall correctly.
Craig McCredie - i agree 100% --- they could convert their current latrine (the toilet seat over a hole in the ground) into a dump site for the composting toilet. it will work out perfectly if they can find a local source for coconut core (without having to make it for themselves), which will work much better than dirt or whatever else they were using before. they just can’t support trying to USE their humanure, which really only happens in communities which create the infrastructure to support each other in that effort, such as in some tiny house communities/cooperatives in new zealand.
@@TRobinson1962 composting toilets are effective anywhere, especially when freezing temperatures are not an issue
@@timskufca8039 Hey, I'm just telling what I saw on the videos. I have been following these guys for a couple of years and I remember them trying it and eventually they came on another video and saying it did not work for them. Sometimes things technically work, but do not "work" for an individual or group because of other reasons. Only they can answer that.
@@TRobinson1962 yep, composting toilets require an effort, but the benefits are huge.
BEAUTIFUL BLANKET of STARS. You should go with the water source that is closer. This way you are not crossing lines with anyone else and in turn it becomes your OWN personal water source. More work and more cost, but close for any repairs and you don't have to worry about others messing with it. I would also monitor it with a few cameras just in case. Can't wait to see the Sauna.❤️🥰
Hi guys, I would recommend pumping upwards from your water supply, using pumps and break tanks, that way you can feed the farm at strategic point with fresh water.
Really enjoying the blogs x
Yeah, but they have water under their property. They just think that hiring someone to drill a well is too expensive & they would have to trust somebody to do it. There are some methods to drill wells very easy by hand, and he could do it himself. There’s a bunch of UA-cam videos about it. The water would be much cleaner too. They can definitely control bacteria a lot easier and reliably by putting in 2 wells. One hand pump, and then another one electric with a shed for the holding tank. They could then feed water to stock tanks in the field from the well out on their land. that’s a lot shorter than 3 miles of pipe on a waterway that can end up being a problem between local people and government. Hopefully they will research and find out. It’s a lot easier to put in a well then they think it is. People have been doing it by hand for thousands of yrs. This couple seems more than adequate to figure it out. 😁
Hey guys, I'm a licensed plumber and a licensed electrician. My advice would be to adapt to the 300' option. A way to do that would be with a concrete holding tank built at the trickle water source (or a barrel collection arrangement). At the collection holding tank, install an electric water pump that sucks from the tank (or barrels). Fill your collection barrels at the house by manually turning the pump on (and, most importantly, OFF) with an electric switch at the house using electricity from your solar power setup. Increase your water storage barrels at the house to allow for 4-5 days of water usage volume (recalculating for showers, toilets, bathtubs, etcetera). Bury or semi-bury and box-in and cover the enhanced barrel storage system at the house (for aesthetics and protection while preserving serviceability). Run your water up to the house with black ABS tubing (1/2" ABS (or 3/8" ABS if it's available) will reduce the workload of the water pump). If the water pump is rated to work at max 20 AMPS, you would normally run #12 wire to power the water pump. But because of the distance (300'), run #8 wire so that the voltage drop doesn't burn out the water pump motor. I recommend running your electrical wire in a minimum of Schedule 40 PVC pipe for crush/tear/break protection from all the possible forms of traffic (under roadways use Schedule 40 PVC (grey) Conduit...OR Schedule 80 PVC (grey) Conduit if it's a shallow bury or if heavier equipment will ever pass over it). Protect your ABS waterline at traffic spots the same way you protect your electric lines (Conduit) at those traffic crossings. I'm sure you will address debris and dirt filtering before the source water enters the concrete holding tank (or barrels). Good luck. I know you'll find satisfaction however you end up doing it.
That's sounds good to me! 🧐😉🤣🤣😊👍🏻
Bruce Angus, if he does the trickle water site he will have to either carry the water or put a pump in place. Where he runs a dedicated line from up above directly to the house with a line coming off for the bathroom and a line coming out of the botom of the house that goes down to Rodrigos house and any houses built. That way he won't have to worry about fixing pumps or for that matter, buy pumps to begin with. Since Rodrigos is the lowest of the property they could put a value so the system can be flushed out.
I like this person's suggestion
Hey Guys, I vote you go with this Pro. Another 3 pluses to the pump system, 1- the water source is on your property and stands a lesser chance of rights being contested in the future, and 2- the water from the spring has already been partially filtered and you have more control over it than the waterfall source, 3- it is infinitely scalable as others join you on the farm.
Team Nomadic! You guys are amazing. I've been silently following you for a while. Two years ago I retired and relocated from the USA to Boquete with my wife. What we've noticed is that during the dry season, many bodies of water run dry. So as you decide between the two water sources of your water supply, determine which source is affected the least by the dry season. We've observed many bodies of water totally dry up during the dry season.
I have a 3rd water source option I would like to present. In the video, you showed several pipes that your neighbors have already successfully installed to bring water down to their properties. Can you broker a deal with one of your neighbors to tap into their pipe in order to flow water over to your property? If the water pressure is predetermined to be a possible hindrance, a solar-powered water pump can be installed at the connecting point in order to enhance water pressure. I'm no expert! I simply wanted to offer my "dos centavos." 🤣
time to build a pond :)🤣😂🙃
What about building a few slanted surfaces like roofs at strategic locations on the property that fill additional tanks. They could be at the high end of the property and easily piped to where they need to go with gravity. Also, during showers, perhaps an on / off flow switch so water isn't just running the whole time.... AZ resident here.... Love you guys - keep up the great work.
Why not import some Romans and have them build you an aqueduct?
I don't know why but this one put a tear in my eye,I do believe its seeing how awesome you guys are living, knowing where you started and seeing that beautiful baby girl living her best life from having the best mommy and daddy.✌️❤️❤️✌️
I get emotional on most of their videos. Been a fan & watching since the very beginning. They are truly so authentic & inspiring ✨🥰✨
@@healingnaturegirl333 they're actually like your familia.😃 & their vids are like a video call with you. Never lose that feeling😍🌏
Oh, how much better the world would be if there were more people like the two of you. I'm sure there are tough times that we don't see but your positive energy, generous spirit and joy for life is what all of us need more of. Sadie is growing up so fast and is just about as smart, talented and beautiful as can be. Thanks for another fantastic video'
We have a solar pump from a small spring that goes longer/higher than your spring/property. Look up Ecoworthy pump. We have some vids on our channel about it 🙂 we pump to a cistern during the sunny hours of the day and it's plenty of water. We even have the solar panel a fair distance from the pump because it's in the bushes
You guy just kill it at life. So amazing all the progress and the growth.
Stopped up to the roastery Monday and TJ and Sarah are absolutely killing it as well, they always remember customers and give the best vibes. Also finally secured the roastery shirt!🤙 Much love to you guys and have a wonderful week!💙
Here is my thoughts...you should consider if your new septic system drain field for the bathroom could possibly find its way to your lower elevation water source ?? If not, might be the easiest option. Probably the larger waterfall source has a better chance of being less polluted. Cost to run the pipe from the waterfall VS electric to run pumps to bring water to upper elevation is both a long and short term consideration. BTW I live across from your mountain up Volcancito road ...what Beautiful weather this time if year !
My family lives south of Boquete, along the highway to David. I feel close to them watching your videos, thank you!
My recommendation is the water on Lola’s Farm and a pump to raise it the 100 feet or so and should you dig around alittle you may find a bigger flow at that trickle sight. Blessings and so excited about the bathhouse project - love y’all!!! Nana Kelli in Florida
I bet Sadie will be bilingual! I’m just so proud you guys are amazing parents, carpenters, farmers, welders, friends. ❤❤sending lots of blessings.😊
You have water on your property so take advantage of it. Consider a submersible pump with a float switch and a small flexible hose or water hose to run to water tanks. Maybe place a water tank at your water source as well. Just a thought. Take care and keep em coming!
Also dig down and out to make a small pond where the water can gather.
Do both! Start with the shorter distance then work on the longer distance water source. Having 3 water sources is the best way to ensure you always have the water you need on the property continually.
I second those options. In this day & age it's better to cover all sources than rely on a single point for your water needs....
Sadie is so cute watching Kaylee wash her face and try to do the same as momma 😊
I just love the joy that you all beam to the universe❤🔥💜🌈 As to the water source question...I personally think, if the 4k distance is downhill, that gravity fed is the way to go. Having to deal with pumps will be an ongoing chore and if you need a generator to power the pumps, the cost/availability of fuel could pose a real hurdle in the future...Or you could pipe both sources🤗 Good luck💚💚💚
Gravity gets my vote also since most mechanical solutions will fail at some point where a coupler and more wire or props will repair the downhill line flow fairly quick. A shared water box and line could be considered as well.God bless your journey.
Who owns the land that the waterfall is on and do you have their permission to run lines across all the properties in between? I think using the resources on your own land is the way to go.
Ram pump is the way to go up the hill then use gravity for the pressure. Yet cost of the pipe for both is an important factor to weigh.
Love you guys and your family adventures!!! Prayers for all of you!!!
Is there enough flow down there to power a ram pump?
@@pkmagic Just depends if they have a large supply, a tub or a large pool, it should be. But output volume will take time to determine whether it is or not.
I can tell from watching a few of your videos of Sadie when she is away from home and when she is home she seems to light up when she comes home from a trip and when she is there she seems to come to life. She really is a little farm girl. I hope for you many blessings.
Man I wish I had as much determination and free spirit to do what y'all have done to accomplish a homestead so beautiful and hand made as you have! Props to you and even doing it with a baby kid!
Also I'm with the others, pumping it up is probably the best bet. Or you could always do both! That way if the pump breaks down you have a back up source that you just open with a valve and have time to repair without worrying that you may run out! Just a thought!
your best option for your own self reliance is to use what is on your property. There are several ways to get the water up from the bottom of your property to the top. One small solar powered pump can work as an intermediate method to get water uphill as far as it can to some sort of tank to hold as much water as it can....from there you can use a ram pump (or several) to go uphill in steps to some point above your bathroom ( so you can have some level of water pressure available. that should give you a more reliable and secure source of water than 4 kilometers of exposed PVC pipe.
Dolor power pump have no power for 3 kilometers ,
BTW, I live in Volcan and I had to install a spring box with a pumping system to raise the water from the spring box to the intermediate reservoir, and then pump it up again to the final 15000 gallon concrete built table at the top end of the Finca.
Although I used Bombas to start, I am finishing with the system installation subcontractor. We will finish the final system tomorrow.
This is the automated pumping system.
Prior to now I built independent segments of the pump system that someone needed to manually switch each pump on and off for each section and I used a 600 gallon tank as the main storage tank... 600 gallons will last three days or less depending on people forgetting to turn of the different faucets.
If you want to look at it, contact me.
Reggie
I'm loving how Sadie is such a great lil gal.
She likes the veggies you give her and it's so much more healthy then junk food no preservatives. Your both doing so great as parents your sake is so happy and that's what's matters.
Good Afternoon, love seeing you all back on the farm again.
Super cute how Sadie reacts to bath time. I feel so lucky to still have my two youngest daughters get nearly as excited about bath time. Also, never would have guessed you guys live at 5,500 ft elevation.
Sadie taking the stairs like a boss. So glad you have a couple of possible solutions to your water needs. Keep a lookout for the Green Comet this month into Feb. It's suppose to be obvious with the naked eye and with how beautiful and clear the sky is there, I bet you'll be able to spot it. Take care and God bless always.
So beautiful always, thanks for being one of the highlights of my week, and for just bringing so many good vibes to the human family ♡
Sadie is so precious and adorable! She has such a spark ! ❤. The sky in the dry season is amazing! What are you guys going to do with interaction with more kids her age for Sadie as she gets older? Go 100 ft in elevation.
Love you guys......My thought on the water issue is why not just have a larger water tank ? You get plenty rain! That way you never have to worry about long distance pipe maintenance or potential pump problems. We lived for 12 years on a water catchment system in Hawaii with a beautiful large redwood water tank. Now the problem may be that larger tanks are not available to you in Panama, but if you can rescores one that would make the most sceans to me.
Sadie is living her best life👏👏 she looks so much happier at the farm than in the snow for sure.
I would use the water on the land, two 12v solar pumps, should do around 70ft each, could install a holding tank half way, so first pump lifts water into tank and second pump, pumps from tank to house, and don't forget normal household hose pipes, cheep and easy to repair replace.. if you use the river, build a cistern or dam, it will act like a header tank, then run a lot of hose pipes till you get to the land.. and if your really clever a water turbine could be installed in the pipe.. goodluck and looking forward to your solutions..
in my honest opinion, I would use the ram pump system to bring water in. It might have a high start cost but will pay for itself over time.
I would use the water on Lola’s Farm. Its yours, so you can protect your supply, and if there are problems you only have a short distance to fix it.
Your skin looks radiant!! Your Beautiful Lady!!! You have such a Good Heart & Soul, Sadie is Thriving with her Parents as her Role Teacher. What is Great about Sadie coming along on your back is she hears all your language, how you speak & think. By asmosis she is so much more intelligent than your average toddler. Love your life in Panama, but thought it was cool at your coffee business too.
Kaylee, you're glowing and your skin looks amazing!
I love watching your life! Sadie is just the sweetest little girl, I love her smile and personality. She warms my heart, what a cool life you two are building with her. Blessings to all of you.
Love watching you guys….one thing….your pizza oven….if you increased the hight of your chimney it will pull more smoke and will keep your patio clear of smoke more….you guys are the best!…❤️
My recommendation would be to have both water locations tested for purity. Then make a decision and use the second spot if purity was good as a back up.
I’d actually use the river waterfall first as the flow is much better.
Sadie is growing up so fast and you all are rocking the life of freedom.
Jordan, I recommend your own property for the water you need a well pump from the states, they can handle the 100 ft elevation lift no problem some people in the mountains of Virginia have 100 to 500 foot deep well’s. If you watch( wild wonderful off-grid) channel they just installed a well pump should give you ideas on what you need. Make sure the line has one way check valves installed. And try to damn up the pool area to make a deeper and larger pool of water. Much love from FL.
Adorable Sadie saying daddy so very sweet, she is walking really well and the tub bath she knew exactly what you were saying clever child well done she is a credit to you both 🥰
I would use the gravity fed supply. For multiple reasons. 1st being that its more plentiful, 2nd being its moving water. The water supply from down below can get get stagnate and might not have enough volume for your future needs. Remember, you have multiple homes on the farm and everyone has similar needs. Id pipe it to a central location like a pond. Then use the wind to your advantage and keep the pond aerated with a windmill. This will keep it fresh. As the farm changes and the demand for water increases, you can pipe it around from there.
Everything is looking great. The progress you all made in these past few years all around fabulous.
Well since your asking about the water, I think a really long run of pipe is asking for trouble. Plan B with a ram pump is a better option but I'd also think about getting a couple more of those tanks to increase your capacity as another option.
your doing things i did not know possible. wish i could have done this 20 yrs ago. it’s truly amazing
Sadie is growing so fast, pretty soon she'll be taking care of the goats all by herself 😆
❄️I don’t know if you’ve done this or not but another thing you might want to do with that water source on your property is walk up as far as you can to make sure that there’s not a place where it’s plugged up from some rocks or just soil and leaves that you could just clean it out and the water would be flowing more freely
I was thinking the same thing! Maybe dowsing for the upper source of that water, you will find it is much closer and stronger flowing, closer to the house?
You guys are the best, and Sadie is so cute and bright. A definate reflection of Momma and Daddy. You might want to do the math on the cost of more tanks and and more rain catchment surfaces , as you already know this works. Maybe a set of tanks for just garden/greenhouse and animals attached to a long roof surface housing more animals/ farm impliaments/hay etc.
I see this PVC through the woods a lot in the Appalachian Mountains here in North Carolina.
Kaylie and Jordan you are doing great with Sadie she is loving her life in Panama! And I like your open attitude I am adopting some of it in my in my own way.
Sadie is one of the most BEAUTIFUL babies I’ve evvvvvvveh seen! No Joke! I love love watching her grow. I thank God she is livin in nature, healthy and soooooooooooo very loved💞🙏🏼. I pray for ya’all from afar. Her joy is contagious.
I look forward to every single video you guys post!! I’m so excited for you guys to have found a water source 💧🙌🏼👏🏼
You guys need to add the "Order Now" Countdown timer. The Corporate Movement
I'm so excited for you guys can't wait to see how everything will be connected to the waterfall it will definitely make a difference you guys got this, the house is looking beautiful and the added rooms can't wait for the competition
I'm not a homesteader myself, but am obsessed with it. If I was to do it all again, it's most definitely how I would live. As to the water supply, I would eventually do both so there is always a backup system. The first one I would devote my time to is the fast flowing creek 5 miles away. That would be your main water source & then supported by the rainwater & the small pool on your property. With the amount of water consumption & any future endeavors that will make use of water; the creek is the most dependable in my opinion. Are you familiar with Tyler & Todd? They have a homestead in Canada. You guys & them are my favorite channels to watch on youtube. I think talking to them & getting their opinion would be invaluable to you. They have done some incredible & smart things on their property.
those of us who grew up with hot water showers are.... hesistant to take cold water showers and tend to suffer a bit if we're forced to 😝. yet lil sadie is happy as a clam with her cold water bucket because that's what she's used to! i think that's so great.
It's so warm in Panama that even a chilly mortal like me finds cold showers comfortable!
I vote for taking Your spring up hill. If you do a storage tank at the bottom then a pump you’ll have more power with the full water tank pushing the pump vs pumping a trickle
So enjoy all your videos. Sadie is getting so big and it's so much fun to see her walking and climbing about the farm 🚜 😍
Sadie is so cute! She has grown so much. It seems like she was just born! I must say she is growing and learning so much!
Uphill is the way to go! Y’all can do it!! 👍❤️
Uphill with what ? A pump you need electric ????
@@irenekegel5988 or Solar to run the pump.
@@jodymooney255 Solar don’t have the power for 3 kilometers !!!!! Maybe a foot pump or bicycle power likens Dynamo
@@irenekegel5988 Well they have found the answers for so many other things and I'm sure they will find the one for this! I have faith in their perseverance! 💯👍❤
@@wanda7519 you have more faith in them then I do , usually they run , amazingly impulsive in their actions and decisions !!!
I think you have overlooked another solution and that is to make better use of the water you already have. On the farm you are only utilizing a small part of your rainfall. Extra water tanks would help and you could use some of that water to generate power.
As for getting a new water source. It might be easier to start with the spring on your land and use that to fill your tanks.
A micro turbine could generate power to offset some of the power use for moving water around.
An alternative might be to build a holding pond lower in your property to catch rainfall
Have you kids ever thought about building a couple tiny homes 🏡 and having air B&B’s? I am 67 years young, if I were just 20 years younger my wife and I would have sold everything we own for the chance to come and join you kids! I am watching Sadie grow you all feel like family! Tried some of your Tea ☕️ it is great! Love you kids! Steven & Sheilalynne Bono
I believe them saying a while ago that is part of their long term plan. Probably years from now.
I also having 40 years in facility maintenance management think you should pump up the 100’ with maybe a step tank and pump to step tank and pump!
You should triple the amount of water storage tanks and take more advantage of the rainy season. Then install a ram pump later maybe? You'll also have Rodrigo's roof if you guys put tanks down there.
Saddie is so stinking cute and growing up so fast!! You can tell she loves it there!
I would do the 100 ft
Oh and hmmmm are we expecting?? 😊. Curiosity since distance was kept from fumes 🤔😁
You guys live in a breathtaking area…. Day or night!!!
Love all your videos!!!
Who needs ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ accomadation when you can live with your million stars. Just beautiful.
Dude I love sitting here with you guys watching your life moments like looking up at the stars or the sunsets or pizza night is just so much heartwarming entertainment and about the water situation I would say pump it up hill in the long run I think it's going to be easier to manage.
Noticed the Waldo socks lol! Love Sadie and how she just absorbs everything around her. Her yeah yeah head shake cracks me up! And she is really getting her jungle legs!
Great big beautiful work on putting this video together..soooooo proud of ya'll's passion for life..I've been so broken over life tragedies..slowly coming back..I actually suck up the inspiration and joy for life from ya'll..just sayin..ty..xoxo 🥰👍✌🤟🖐🤪
I enjoy watching Sadie so much. She is so sweet and learning so much so fast!!! You doing a great job guys!! 💜
I really like this channel, I like the content and the overall vibe that you guys give out, I'm also grateful for all the efforts you guys put into making these videos, however, the title of this video led me to think that you guys were in trouble, after watching the video, I concluded that there is no serious problem, just a simple difficulty deciding between the options you guys have. Maybe choose a different title next time? Cheers!
Honestly, I think I would just increase my rain catchment system by putting systems on other structures, even in the open, and running piping from those tanks. It rains a lot there. Create your own reserve!!! 🌧️
You are such a good mother. 👍
...and dad too!
Omg to that Panama night ski ...incredible..thankyou Jordyn for sharing that experience....I would be out all night ...with severe neck cramps
Love the show, I've done both of these scenarios, off grid, in the mountains! If you have access to 500' rolls of Polyethylene Pipe it works like a charm for the gravity feed. Also, you could use 1" in diameter instead of all that 2" PVC that the others used . Just split it to the 4 tanks with float valves so they constantly stay full. You could also split it to have on demand water around the farm. That 2'' PVC flows with some serious pressure. By the time it gets to your location it would have the force of a fire hose. With 2'' I was constantly battling over 100psi. It was just too hard on valves and water heaters and such and I had to install pressure reducers at every sink/shower/spigot/float valves for tanks etc. Again the Poly Pipe is the way to go for long distance.
Secondly I highly recommend against the pumping up hill. First of all powering them is the main obstacle. When pumping up hill those motors don't like to turn off and on frequently. I've used submersible pumps but they absolutely cannot run dry. The distance uphill you mentioned would require a serious pump and they send a lot of water so in other words you have to have a flowing stream not just a trickle because you will pump out all the water faster than it can replenish. The other pumps I've used are the GT30 which are above ground but again these don't want to be turned off and on a frequent basis. Having them on float valves for instance would burn the pump out pretty quick. You would have to empty your tanks, go turn on the pump (presumably with a generator) until the tanks were full then wash, rinse, repeat. Also they have to stay primed when turned on. Like how we use straw's in a drink, when the motor turns on it can only pull water up like 15' before it can start sending it uphill and again if that source empties and you start sucking air that motor will burn out in hours. So for above ground pumps when you go turn your pump on you have to fill the pump up first unless you just want to trust that it will draw the water up. Compared to gravity feed, pumps are a HUGE pain when you rely on water for off grid living. Especially if the task is getting it uphill. Moving water from pond to pond is one thing but homestead water source being pumped uphill is not fun, easy, or cheap.
Lastly, be conscientious about the water usage if going gravity feed when it comes to leaks and unnecessary usage. I know you have a lot of rain there but that 2'' pipe has the potential to change the course of 100's of thousands of gallons of water if not constantly maintained which could alter your surrounding ecosystem dramatically. I imagine there's plenty of water there but just something to think about. Have fun! The gravity feed was truly a fun process the whole way through. Thanks for sharing your farm life!
Can't wait when the bathroom is done and you can have more luxuries. I think the 100 ft. would be better and hopefully easier. Miss Sadie is adorable as usual and has the cutest way of expressing herself....she is precious!
I would say ram pump, the start up cost might be slightly higher but in the long run it is contained to your land and in actuality it is not terribly far, pumps have gotten much more efficient over the years.
You kids work so hard while smiling through it...hope you are motivation for other youngsters! Keep it up guys! Btw...are you expecting another baby? Lol and if not, thinking about it? ❤️ to all!
It's the damn boy who cried wolf with your titles.
Kaylee you aren't kidding your face is Glowing! No bags under your eyes! You're beautiful n positive n the two of you are Wonderful parents and Sadie is one of the most beautiful little girls I've seen in my 66 years on this planet. Jordan is Crushing the bathroom!❤🙏🏻🐾🤗
This'll probably get berried, but i wanted to let you know Kaylee, I am taking a leap on this skincare. I'm not getting any younger, and the way you talked about it, I don't know, gave me confidence that this might actually be something that actually is good, and is also good for the environment. Like, truly good. You know what i mean.. Long story short, I'm really looking forward to this shipment..
Thank you guys for always being wholesome and honest.
I'll be sticking around till the end with you guys.
Good luck on the water situation. I really don't have much of an opinion on the matter, but I'll be cheering you all on from the West Coast for whatever you decide
Sending Love From Vermont here...I think a gravity fed pond with swales is in order. As well sharing the closest pipe in your direction to limit waste and materials in the natural environment. Then keeping an eye on the trickling water hole as back up and overflow of the pond. Cheers!
Omg , so you did not think about this before you got this land ????? 3 Kilometer of water pipes !!! Are you kidding !!!! Takes you month to build a bathroom !!!! No water but you are dreaming of a hot tub !! Lol
I had a similar problem a few years ago and what I did is to pump mid-distance into tanks and pump from those tanks to my cistern that way you do not have to have an issue with the size of your pump. Now the fall is 4K away and that cost alone for the pipe will be very high. I am not an engineer but those are my thoughts
You spent $160,000on a camper , so spends some money and improve your living conditions and hire some professionals to build a proper bathroom.
Sadie is a bundle of joy! You guys are really incredible too in all you do. Thanks for sharing your world.
Your thumbnails are so revealing let's say. 😏Yuk
Fun fact - you cannot "suck" water more than 33.9 feet. Even in space. It would boil. The good news is elevation is irrelevant under "pressure" - well almost irrelevant. You will need to put the well pump at the bottom of the hill at the source, but once it's pressurized anything above is is fine. You will also have control of it as it's on your land and the cost would be less vs 4km of pvc pipe.
Glad to see you back on the homestead!
EVERY DAMN title always clickbaiting....... WHY CANT YOU GUYS just do a normal TITLE???????
If you can get a 1/2 HP to 1 HP heavy duty sump pump, then you could pump that elevation with 1 or 2 pumps. You just have to get electricity to the pump there by the river. It would most likely be the cheaper option since you have much less pipe to run from the river and it would be a lot closer for troubleshooting.
I would say pump it from your spring on your land. You should only need one pump, the power draw is a bummer, but I think you can work around it. That way, if there ever is a problem, its on your land and close by. If you went the long pipe route, there are just a ton of opportunities for damage to that pipe. I feel like you'd have to add pipe repair to your chore list. Not sure what costs are in that area, but that much pipe may be more costly than short amount of pipe and a submersible pump. It is nice that you have those two options, though! Keep up the good work and good luck!
In some parts of the world, they have used big bamboo trees cut them in half and transport water that way.
I just purchased a bag of coffee ☕️ 🫘 beans from y’all!! I’m excited to try it out..y’all inspired me to step up my coffee game…I even have a pour over set & hand grinder to have fresh ground coffee daily!!
I feel 3 miles of pipe might be just as expensive as the pumps for the 100ft climb in elevation. Keep it on your property if its an option, otherwise you open your water supply up to failure by outside influences. If pump breaks you dont need to hike up a mountain to fix it. Great video as always!
Maybe the stream could be for Rodrigo’s house. Questions, though: Is that water drinkable? Where is it running through/near? Cows?
Also run pipes from the waterfall. Your need for lots of good water is just going to increase.
I'm living in Chapala MX & I heard that bird a few months ago & was so curious of what kind it was, thank you for solving one of my bird curiosities.
Sadie is so beautiful & is starting to look a lot like Jordon. Don't blink to often, I swear that's when they grow the fastest.
use which ever water is cleaner! Also, there has to be Well drilling companies in Panama. Maybe explore that route as well!