I gotta say dude, I have a lot of respect that you go out and speak your mind without fear and recognize when you fucked up, none of the "painting it as polite a posible". Everytime you critize cosmetics and Warpaints I sit down and talk to myself on how I like or not your opinion. But yeah, respect for that, pretty cringy not poggers that you are not a strong anime girl tho
That's exactly what those who hate him don't do. They don't sit down and think about it because by that point his opinion has already pierced through their 1 micrometer thick skin. They don't know what to do after this so they just go on the internet and spread hate about him.
That and mainstream internet doesn’t like Zesty’s unsanitized, unapologetic conveyance of his opinions. Sure you could argue he’s a little too brash at times but Zetsy has had a good case to plead for demanding better for TF2, which is why I like his content. The community at large has grown far too complacent with the poor treatment/neigh abandonment of this beloved game that any talk against the biannual holiday status quo or any sort of thought that the game is still in terrible shape that isn’t cordial or sanitized is met with unreasonable vitriol. In the case of The Emporium, it appears me they hate Zesty as much as they because he called them out for abusing Valve’s lackluster quality control to profit massively on poor quality item submissions rather than actually crafting faithful content for the game.
@@nigelrichardson4327the biggest thing that bothers me more then anything, is that these people who hate him so much dont know normal people. if you have ever talked to anyone irl its obvi zj isnt transphobic. and it's also obvi he isnt racist either. people really need to go out actually experience life people flipping their shit on a pretty average dude
"You are intolerant and disrespectful! And to prove that WE are tolerant and respectful, we are going to threaten you and your family!" Stay classy, twitter. You don't have to be anybody except yourself (but you already knew that). Being genuine these days is too rare. People would rather just parrot the popular talking point because they're afraid of conflict or simply aren't able to form their own opinions.
Part-to-whole fallacy and paradox of tolerance aside, I agree. Being genuine is rare and I do wish more peeps would form their own opinions, with moderation and responsibility, of course. I feel like if we treated certain opinions as opinions and not attacks on a person's character, people would be a lot more sociable. Conflict doesn't necessarily have to entail hate and vitriol, and can be a progression of debate arriving at compromise, something modern sociopolotics and thus, a lot of internet spaces seem disinterested in doing, for one reason or another.
Yeah it becomes a little bit more toxic. But so far it is the only Community that is still less toxic compare to other game community. Most cases they’re just goofing and trolling.
@@ayakaasamaI've noticed the in game community is pretty laid back and meming and trolling as you say 90% of the time. The main tf2 subreddit and most forums are absolute cancer though. R/truetf2 seems a lot better though from what little i've seen of it.
Solarlight is exceedingly and forever defensive when it comes to the pyro airblast vs demoknight thing specifically. Why is it that spy is the only class allowed to be hard countered, in his eyes? After Blue Moon, pyro needs a shotgun to deal with a competent demoknight. Yeah, I can airblast you back, but that's not gonna actually do any damage, and the shields cut my damage in half (as a pyro), only made worse after bluemoon. I've got 1k+ hours on the class, which is still a lot less then other dedicated mains, but man, demo has most everything already, the melee version of it doesn't need to be perfect, yknow. I've never liked soundsmith, either. He had a video where he was basically borrowing lazypurple's notes and it was just irritating, but even before that he's always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Like he'd tell you he has your back but be the first to throw you under the bus if it benefited him, something like that. So seeing what that tweet actually did isn't really surprising, though he's not entirely responsible for what his audience does, either.
The TurkeyTom video was just weird. I remember watching it and thinking "So, whats supposed to be weird about this guy? Just seems like a normal dude." No Idea why he thought some fringe twitter drama warranted an entire video about you. Its a weird time.
I'd say it's not just some fringe twitter drama and more so how there's been so much fringe twitter drama surrounding this guy that the tf2 community usually will burst into flames and spray toxic wastes everywhere whenever you mention the name "Zesty Jesus"
Love your content Zesty, your honesty and personality is something incredibly rare to see and experience on the internet. Don't let the haters get to you, as the better person somebody is the more toxicity they seem to receive from.. "less than supportive of the right of free speech" people.
it's shocking to see how much even the slightest "transphobia" gets you to be the most harassed person on planet earth, gotta love how much this world has come to
@@solarflare9078 Yeah lol. Have you seen stats about recent generation being the first one where acceptance is going down? They only have themselves to blame
I don't agree with Zesty on many things regarding tf2 but I still watch em because a second opinion is always valuable, especially when it comes from someone that wants to keep the integrity of the game.
I've also heard so people who said his opinion doesn't matter because he's not a pro competitive player.... That's literally just saying playing casual doesn't matter
The Emporium guys really weird me out, and I generally agree with their politics, but the way they treat the workshop as like, their voice or whatever is so weird. Like, they feel like they need to control the workshop so they can control a narrative or some shit, rather than it just being about the money, which is just so fucking weird.
Zesty is everything that twitter hates A straight, successful white man who acts like a man and actually has a life outside the game. in comparison, look at Uncle dane irl and his friends. kinda makes you think, doesn't it?
Tin foil hat Everything you said has nothing to do with why he's targeted by twitter It's his personality, Twitter hates honest and direct people, afterall that places is filled with politocians the least trustworthy people ever
@@TuShan18 idubbz ( a guy who got mocked because his wife bleeds him for money and got him mocked by the whole internet and in response he decided to mock a kid publicly)
Gotta thank Tom for showing me Zest. Thought I was going to see literal hitler, but found a deeply honest guy with a passion for a hobby he’s known and loved for nearly two decades. And it is because of his honesty and forthright attitude that all of these extremely fragile people vilify him. Unfortunate but I think a lot more fans came from this for Zest than not, at least it is for me.
I still find it hilarious how you of all people is this controversial, I absolutely LOVE the fact you don't give a shit what people think and stick to their opinions. More people need to learn to do that these days
I saw turkey tom's stuff. I followed you when you had like 40 subs and same with turkey tom. I feel that turkey tom's audience - who mind you know the likes of chris chan - realize you're a chill dude. Love your content. Dont stop.
I think you're alright. Pretty much aligned with everything Tom said. Not a fan of how much your chat seems to be so adamantly against the other TF2bers, but god damn some of the TF2bers really need to lay off and think about what they're doing.
hey man i just wanted to say that you're a person that i respect, the fact that you don't hide your feelings about a subject and don't put up with the shit people throw at you you're an honest man and i respect that, fuck everyone who can't deal with your OPINION (lol)
2:11:25 you like Ancient Magius Bride too? I really thought the anime was a fun watch and kinda cute in some aspects, good to know it has some good publicity!
I disagree with his stance on a lot of game mechanics, but I appreciate Zesty's contributions to the TF2 community as well as his effort and creativity.
Love you zesty. It’s awesome when Tom makes content about you cause it highlights how chad you are, when he made the furry jokes I laughed so hard bc I give you and only you a pass lmao especially bc I want she hulk to pick me up so I get the muscle girl thing 😭😭
A person doesnt walk on eggshells around everyone and has oppinions that differ from others????? HOW COULD HE Zesty, i never heard of you before the turkey tom video and you are being lambasted for absolutely nothing. Stay strong
Damn... I knew TF2 had bad apples (And i was at some point one of them until i decided to leave) Rewatching some old tf2 vids and having these in my recommend makes me feel confused on whether i should laugh and mock at TF2 or feel sad for it Especially Soundsmith and Solarlight with their stupid tweets/comments I wasn't expecting them of all people to make me lose respect XD God I am glad i left the community it was awful but at least Zesty is Cool
I used to get you and Big Joey (formerly Nuts Slapper) confused all the time, I severely apologize for that. Now thanks to you, I've spent obscene amounts of money on war paints again since 2018. The community might not see it right now, but one day they'll realize how much of positive influence you had on this game's direct going forward. Keep up the good work, man 👍 33:36 "Soldier. You camped the whole time for this ?"
Mans did nothing wrong and got so much shit for it. I watched the video expecting you to be some awful person but I ended up subbing because you seemed funny and didn't deserve the shit you got. I don't even play or know much about tf2, you just seemed to make interesting content and wanted to stick around.
yehh he is good. If he likes/dislikes he gives you the reasoning. Also who else can pull off 2+ ours stream without any script? Linus does WAN show 4+, but that is 3 plp.
Soundsmith is exactly why I don't trust these "toxic nice" people. They act super friendly to everyone but the second you disagree with them on something they couldn't be more cruel and vindictive. I'd much rather hang around abrasive people because at least they are genuine, while someone like Soundsmith is a snake in the grass. Same goes for Solarlight.
I think there is some deeper truth to these sorts of people and it is simply that they are out of line of reality. They believe in something that's downright false and they need to cover it up with some sort of fake "niceness". They believe being "nice" is a virtue but lack the understanding of what constitutes the real virtue of charity. Contrary to popular belief, telling someone what they want to hear instead of the truth is actually evil. And that's essentially what all these effeminate "male feminist" (and whatever other labels they give themselves, including "ally") people are.
As much as you might dislike the term (keyword, might. I dunno what's your stance on it but people tend to overuse it) - you are the most based TFtuber currently active. You are never afraid to say what's on your mind - and that is a rare trait in people younger than 30
most are too afraid of the twitter mafia. those spineless idiots will dogpile the baddie of the day without a second thought before getting canceled themselves in the future
@@darren8608It really just feels like a competition for who can virtue signal the hardest for the most ridiculous things behind the safety of the internet so they can pretend like they actually contributed to anything that actually matters for once in their life.
Soundsmith does a tweet and gets a guy's family and animals threatened and gets no backlash, but if that shit happened to HIM, the whole TF2 community would dogpile on the guy. Man owns nothing of what he did and doesn't even seem to show regret. Honestly what the fuck?
Honestly I started to lose respect on a lot of TF2 UA-camrs because of these type of actions. Sure their content might be great, but if you're the type to let your community go unhinged against someone, then you got problems
Tbf soundsmith sent literally 1 word and a emoji, he isn’t like Dream or something and targeted some rando and actually threw his audience at kid. Zesty can give critiques or make a joke out of something, SS can too. Neither wants or promoted harassment
Soundsmith didn't really do much, did he? Anything past his response seems out of his control. He's not sending out attackers, people do that on their own regardless of disclaimers against it. Remember the duped shovel incident? That was just a funny bit and people took it too far.
@@SuperMidH the matter is his actions have consequences, no matter how small they are. And he has a LOT of fans and unhinged people among his following like it or not. Him joining the discussion with however small a contribution has WIDE repercussions and that's something that should be accounted. It's not "oh he didn't do much", it's how that much turned into fuel for a widespread hate campaign.
I think Shounic is one of the best modern TF2 UA-camrs. And to be honest, I actually like Dane's content when he uploads even though I disagree with some of his takes.
Not only that, but he writes long essays on reddit and has tried to get Zesty deplatformed over old tweets. Not surprised that he never leaves his bedroom, let alone his house.
Man it feels weird to know that I had a lot of respect for SL for his demo skills. Now I can see that he's just wasting his youth on a dying game. Many such cases.
@@pelonio6181 Online games are a huge waste of time but I think many single players are great tools for relaxing or experiencing an interesting story. But yes, even single player vidya can be huge time wasters
1:37:35 We're open sourcing the code behind the anticheat, not the fully trained AI model itself. You're completely correct that open sourcing the part that detects cheating is stupid, as cheaters can use that information to ensure they're never detected by it.
People like Zesty are genuinely acting as a public mental health service. If every single person I ever dealt with was as much of a gigantic fanny as the average redditor I would go utterly mental. People with a slightly more edgy sense of humour and less "sensitive" personality help to cut through the treacle and keep me sane. Cheers, Zesty.
Facts. I always preffered hanging around more abrassive and blunt people over moral busybodies that act nice until you disagree with them on something. At least the former is honest.
The thing that suprised me the most was SolarLights response to everything, it seems so out of character for someone like me who only sees his videos. I guess we can’t trust anybody or anyone in the internet, no matter how good they are at something, that won’t excuse their shortcomings
@@justsara1238 I feel like that applies with everyone on that site. Something about it has a paranormal effect where everyone on it starts acting unhinged.
@@christiancastro434 i dont think it’s for “woke points” I just think not a lot of “big” youtubers truly know WHO zesty is. They see the “toxic” traits that he has and they make their mind up with that, I can’t blame them, I thought exactly like them before going into my own zesty deep dive. Plus it’s good PR for them
TF2 on youtube/reddit/twitter really seems like a bunch of terminally online, fragile, sissified idiots that get pissed at every minuscule inconvenience or different opinion that doesn't appeal to their hivemind. Solar and SoundSmith are so brainrotten for what they did, and lost all of my respect for these morons. Zesty did not deserve any the hate that he got. You handled this shitshow well, stay strong man.
Really surprised when the video showed Soundsmith of all people being one of the people to ruin Zesty's life, really made me rethink about him since I never really get the impression that he's that type of guy. Then again you don't really know someone because you watch them playing games over the internet, do you?
@@superbrainz2357 To be frank, that is the same everywhere. Anything on Social Media is mostly seperate from the actual community. The only one that is almost exactly like their social media community so far, is Overwatch.
I didn't lose respect for him, for me the issue is that they probably just abide by the masses of the community which leads to them not actually understanding his persona.
I actually took notice of Zesty thanks to Wamo's video, I felt bad for him and it led me to appreciate his content. I ended up DM'ing him after the Soundsmith ratio post saying how I was really disappointed in SS and the rest of the TF2 community, etc. Since then Zesty has been one of the TF2 creators that I respect the most
So as someone that left the TF2 game and community and came back like half a year ago. The fuck happend? Were TF2 players allways that thin skinned? Your oppinions are not even bad/radical they honestly seems to be pretty tame.
Slurs are contextual but holy shit nobody deserves to be targeted and harrassed irl. I hope the nutjobs that targeted you irl get what they deserve (cuffs and therapy)
I think what's so much worse is how the trans community have took it upon themselves to make up a slur and declare it as such and now DEMAND reparation from anyone who dare used a short hand of a word. Tranny always existed, for example, as short hand for transmission with relation to mechanics. Granny also existed as short hand for grandmother. The fact that these people arbitrarily decided they wanted their own "n word" is so downright narcissistic, it hurts.
Zesty, you are a pillar to the tf2 community. You’re genuinely bullet proof and stand your ground. People are too extreme these days, and I hope you never let that get to you.
Wow, I seriously cannot comprehend how can someone literally send death threats to you and your family (!) over a TWEET, especially when you literally said NOTHING WRONG in said tweet (seriously, what you said is just common sense lmfao). Honestly, I wouldn't even consider those psychos real people, just how deranged they must be to do something like that... Anyways, my heart goes out to you, Zesty! Don't let the haters and whackjobs and twitter mob get to you, your content is great and you deserve way more subs and recognition, and I hope you get it!
i personelly think the straight forward criticism is exactly what the game needs. If everyone just copes with the state of the game and say"everything is fine"(even if its not), then nothing will change. I like your videos for that
Even after watching your stream and hearing your responses to turkey tom. My thoughts nor opinions change about you, nor my feelings. As I don’t hate you Zesty Jesus and I find your content to be pretty good and give you respect for not being afraid to say what others think that or how things are shit. Instead I just tip my hat to you good sir and say good job. 👍
I don't watch modern tf2 youtubers because most are mentally ill consumers with a large sunk cost fallacy that all have the exact same opinions on everything but you genuinely seem like the most normal guy because you speak your mind and want to have fun online instead of becoming a terminally online loser like the modern tf2 player
honest to god I watched turkey toms video and immediately subscribed to you, I do not play tf2, but the community of the game you loves so much has no reason to treat you so badly
51:36 had a great idea for giving Sniper a nice nerf it's by giving all Sniper Rifles a Magazine of 1, and each time after firing it will play a reload animation of Sniper cocking back the bolt, loading a new cartridge, and cocking it forward again essentially halfing his fire rate while making it look a lot more visually appealing maybe throw in a scope in speed and boom there you go
Eh... That just makes playing sniper in general a bit grueling if you have to wait more then you already do missing a shot. Id say add tracer rounds to all his shots, and lower his ammo count in general
Funnily enough, in Meet the Sniper, that is _Exactly_ how Sniper reloads his Rifle. It just happens so fast, as Mun-Dee is performing a "Bullet between the Fingers" trick (Done by holding a bullet between the index and middle finger and inserting the bullet into the chamber when the bolt is being set into the Receiver). It is a trick done by "Trickshooters" or those who have guns that either are Single shot or have a Magazine Cutoff (i.e. The Krag Jorgensen). Though to be honest, actually animating the trick into the reload animation _Would_ add an extra Second or two... And it would look pretty cool... Oh, and here is an addition: -Taking damage during reload will result in a 25% Chance that you will catch your Thumb in the Bolt. ...Which is possibly Canon to Mun-Dee, as when Mun-Dee Scratches his Cheek in Meet the Sniper, you can see a Black Line on the Base of his Thumbnail. That is known as "Garand Thumb", a type of injury which originated from the M1 Garand and how US soldiers attempting to "Race the Bolt", got injured from getting their thumb caught in the Bolt during reload, sometime breaking the Thumb Bone. If he has "Garand Thumb" in the Meet the Sniper Video, it means he got it recently... Which means that Mun-Dee has had several cases of getting his Thumb Caught in the Bolt of his Rifle.
@@Victor-056 really fun idea really like it but feels way too gimmicky to be a default sniper ability honestly think It should be on it's own weapon imo
@@Sleepy_Cabbage well, to be more specific it gives sniper a nice nerf to _quick scoping_ Tracer Shot and Decreased Reserved Ammo does sound better on top of my quick scope nerf cause a slower reload would IMO make quick scoping feel more rewarding and it would just look cooler too
A problem a lot of people have is that many people seem to think all opinions are like law, rigid and non-flexible, your allowed to like certain things and dislike things made by the same person.
Or that people think that disliking something means you hate all the people behind it. For example some think that if someone dislikes homosexuality that somehow equals wanting to publicly execute gay people or something.
I honestly don't get Tom's aversion to you liking muscular women. Compared to a lot of other grown ass men on this platform that is like by far one of the least weirdest things you could be attracted to lol
Also you're kinda like litmus test - usually the ytbers who actively go after you are either holders of idiotic opinions or had some questionable character to them (or both). So if a "member of tf2 community" doesn't like you it's usually a redflag.
honestly hate how much people just despise you, its disgusting to see it, we live in a time where if someone disagrees with you, they have to send you the most depreaved shit possible, even illegal shit, just to make you feel disgusted and get a '1-up' on you. Like an example, i don't like shork, some of his videos are alright, but I hate the shit he did to you, treated you, yet he gets to interview the fucking voice actors, which I believe he doesn't deserve, but he is, and glad someone is, as we need those actors to love. That shit though with Soundsmith, hearing that he did all of that shit, and had the fucking nerve to promote a loved based event for charity, but was for trevor project or something, if I knew that he was doing that much, that shit isn't worth any medal or any help to that dude. Yet though, notice how I don't say I hate these people as they are shitheads or whatever they suggest, I hate their opinions and hate what they did. Zesty is a flawed but good guy, and people that suggest that he is otherwise are probably people that are more evil compared to the evil that is 'zesty' (jk but honestly they have done some disgusting shit just because they hate you or hate what you say) Thank you Zesty for being a damn good youtuber and fighting for people that can't really speak up too well, hope to be somewhat like you in the future, but hope for the far less shit you had to deal with. All the love for ya bud and if you ever need someone to talk to, always here for ya bud!
Your only mistake that I find within the turkey tom video analysis of you is you apologizing to the people of twitter. I'm serious when I say they'll take down anyone if they deem it even though the person that made the mistake is apologizing. Next time you get into a controversy regarding racism/(insert buzzword)phobia, just let it pass and ignore it, be a better person quietly. These "people" are not worth apologizing to. Other than that, I think you're pretty funny and I subbed since that faceit tf2 video of yours. You always go on your way to say your thoughts on how to make the game better, and I like that
Honestly it's weird how he encapsulated my opinion on you in general pretty well over all. I have been wanting someone to talk about it that actually had an open mind and would look at the facts here so I appreciate his video a lot
pissing off chronically online people from twitter is like pissing off the government at this point, it's pitiful to waste 90% of your life harassing and stalking a person that you'd never met in person
I apologize, no matter the argument no matter the person, hacking someone's email and spamming them with cp and gore is unjustifiable, the people who did this to you are 10 times worse then you'll ever be
Don't normally comment as often but just dropping my support. I don't normally stay subscribed to people because once they go fake or start to produce trash content I tend to unsub, but everything you've produced has been and felt genuine and with your heart put into it. Just like everyone you have your flaws but you, at the very least, are genuine and are striving towards something good and it shows, especially by your tough love towards TF2. This may all sound stupid because at the end of the day "it's just a video game" but it's a reflection of your personality and I believe that sort of thing can carry over into more serious topics that aren't video games. God speed Zesty.
wow, the fact that soundsmith, solarlight and shork decided to harass you to THESE fucking lengths made my respect for them decrease, this is utterly not even cool for them. i really thought they were better then this, but i guess you're the only STABLE person on this game with good information. stay safe and keep it up bro, these weird degenerates on twitter and reddit can't do shit to you because they're just TF2 soyboys wanting to put an "end to the bad people" when you're one of the good guys.
While I can't talk for solarlight and shork, I can say I don't think soundsmith meant to harass anyone, it's more an unhinged fan that took shit way too far for no reason in this case, hard to put the blame only on soundsmith with that one. However, now that the story's out, if soundsmith does not take any action toward either dealing with said unhinged fan (or fans) or at the very least apologize for the IRL stress caused, then yes soundsmith is a legitimate donkey.
@@MedusaBigTiddyGothGF well, still, all three of them need to get better at dealing with drama, because really, zesty did nothing wrong, but make good abrasive opinions on stuff for TF2, and everyone went at him, albeit soundsmith prob didn't mean it but if he did? oof, thats gonna negatively impact his reputation. along with the other two.
@@MedusaBigTiddyGothGF The thing is when you tweet out "Ratio" in a smug tone, you can't be surprised if your fans take it to the extreme. So, imo, that meant that SS either knew something akin to that would happen,(Maybe not to the extent that it did but still) or is too ignorant to be making remarks/picking "fights" like that. If SS apologizes and lectures his fans about it then it's fine, but It's still a little too late for that.
@@shiawase8694i mean he's not putting his dick in it nor is it actually real the asuka and is fictional. Like come on dude, not everything is about fucking.
The first time I heard of you was from that Wamo video, and I instantly knew he was a PoS and you were at least a normal person. Keep up the good work, fuck the haters
I hate the modern mindset that creators are responsible for their audience's behavior, so I don't think SoundSmith deserves to be "held accountable" for that, but fuck him anyway.
If fans and internet users in general weren’t crazy, what soundssmith did would not have been bad. He probably didn’t expect his fanbase to go apeshit on zesty(although, I can’t claim to know what his intentions were). But not even bothering to apologize afterward for what you did, even if unintentional, is a massive dick move. So yeah, fuck him.
Not having watched the video prior to the stream I fully expected this to be a hit piece against you, but respect where it is due the guy actually had some solid points, albeit it did feel like some was cherry picked. Much love to ya, brother.
I gotta say dude, I have a lot of respect that you go out and speak your mind without fear and recognize when you fucked up, none of the "painting it as polite a posible". Everytime you critize cosmetics and Warpaints I sit down and talk to myself on how I like or not your opinion. But yeah, respect for that, pretty cringy not poggers that you are not a strong anime girl tho
Yeah, it's a shame that this guy gets a lot of shit because he wants the game to be a better place.
That's exactly what those who hate him don't do. They don't sit down and think about it because by that point his opinion has already pierced through their 1 micrometer thick skin. They don't know what to do after this so they just go on the internet and spread hate about him.
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yeah why not anime girl
I think the real reason why people hate Zesty is because he wants TF2 to be better, not modern.
Damn, out of all the comments trying to defend this man. This dude just opened his third-eye.
That and mainstream internet doesn’t like Zesty’s unsanitized, unapologetic conveyance of his opinions. Sure you could argue he’s a little too brash at times but Zetsy has had a good case to plead for demanding better for TF2, which is why I like his content. The community at large has grown far too complacent with the poor treatment/neigh abandonment of this beloved game that any talk against the biannual holiday status quo or any sort of thought that the game is still in terrible shape that isn’t cordial or sanitized is met with unreasonable vitriol. In the case of The Emporium, it appears me they hate Zesty as much as they because he called them out for abusing Valve’s lackluster quality control to profit massively on poor quality item submissions rather than actually crafting faithful content for the game.
@@nigelrichardson4327the biggest thing that bothers me more then anything, is that these people who hate him so much dont know normal people. if you have ever talked to anyone irl its obvi zj isnt transphobic.
and it's also obvi he isnt racist either. people really need to go out actually experience life people flipping their shit on a pretty average dude
He wants TF2 to be more modern, why he wants sniper banned
@@wp6007 Not outright banned, just more balanced.
"You are intolerant and disrespectful! And to prove that WE are tolerant and respectful, we are going to threaten you and your family!" Stay classy, twitter.
You don't have to be anybody except yourself (but you already knew that). Being genuine these days is too rare. People would rather just parrot the popular talking point because they're afraid of conflict or simply aren't able to form their own opinions.
Part-to-whole fallacy and paradox of tolerance aside, I agree.
Being genuine is rare and I do wish more peeps would form their own opinions, with moderation and responsibility, of course. I feel like if we treated certain opinions as opinions and not attacks on a person's character, people would be a lot more sociable. Conflict doesn't necessarily have to entail hate and vitriol, and can be a progression of debate arriving at compromise, something modern sociopolotics and thus, a lot of internet spaces seem disinterested in doing, for one reason or another.
I am so tired of these people acting like they're the arbiter of morality. also you're version of Asuka is great, lmfao.
im so glad i quit the tf2 community, cant stand how toxic it became. glad i could watch your side of things
Yeah it becomes a little bit more toxic. But so far it is the only Community that is still less toxic compare to other game community. Most cases they’re just goofing and trolling.
@@tsuaririndokunot really, in other games you get suspended for toxicity
In tf2 you can freely say slurs and tell people to kill themselves
@@ayakaasama Same as dota 2 the way things should be
@@ayakaasamaI've noticed the in game community is pretty laid back and meming and trolling as you say 90% of the time.
The main tf2 subreddit and most forums are absolute cancer though. R/truetf2 seems a lot better though from what little i've seen of it.
@@ayakaasama tbh thats better, nobody really cares when you say that which makes a more carefree and fun enviroment
Solarlight is exceedingly and forever defensive when it comes to the pyro airblast vs demoknight thing specifically.
Why is it that spy is the only class allowed to be hard countered, in his eyes? After Blue Moon, pyro needs a shotgun to deal with a competent demoknight. Yeah, I can airblast you back, but that's not gonna actually do any damage, and the shields cut my damage in half (as a pyro), only made worse after bluemoon. I've got 1k+ hours on the class, which is still a lot less then other dedicated mains, but man, demo has most everything already, the melee version of it doesn't need to be perfect, yknow.
I've never liked soundsmith, either. He had a video where he was basically borrowing lazypurple's notes and it was just irritating, but even before that he's always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Like he'd tell you he has your back but be the first to throw you under the bus if it benefited him, something like that. So seeing what that tweet actually did isn't really surprising, though he's not entirely responsible for what his audience does, either.
The TurkeyTom video was just weird. I remember watching it and thinking "So, whats supposed to be weird about this guy? Just seems like a normal dude." No Idea why he thought some fringe twitter drama warranted an entire video about you. Its a weird time.
I'd say it's not just some fringe twitter drama and more so how there's been so much fringe twitter drama surrounding this guy that the tf2 community usually will burst into flames and spray toxic wastes everywhere whenever you mention the name "Zesty Jesus"
Love your content Zesty, your honesty and personality is something incredibly rare to see and experience on the internet.
Don't let the haters get to you, as the better person somebody is the more toxicity they seem to receive from.. "less than supportive of the right of free speech" people.
it's shocking to see how much even the slightest "transphobia" gets you to be the most harassed person on planet earth, gotta love how much this world has come to
I too, am not a fan of cancel culture
And this is why there has been an increasing amount of people against the general trans community
@@solarflare9078 Yeah lol. Have you seen stats about recent generation being the first one where acceptance is going down? They only have themselves to blame
@@-lord1754 Exactly. If they wanted to act like normal people like they said, then they better do that.
@@solarflare9078Twitter Trans Activists have done more damage to trans people than your average transphobe ever can.
I don't agree with Zesty on many things regarding tf2 but I still watch em because a second opinion is always valuable, especially when it comes from someone that wants to keep the integrity of the game.
I have no words to say other than 100% acceptable and fair opinion with pretty much no bullshit in it
I've also heard so people who said his opinion doesn't matter because he's not a pro competitive player.... That's literally just saying playing casual doesn't matter
The Emporium guys really weird me out, and I generally agree with their politics, but the way they treat the workshop as like, their voice or whatever is so weird. Like, they feel like they need to control the workshop so they can control a narrative or some shit, rather than it just being about the money, which is just so fucking weird.
Zesty is everything that twitter hates
A straight, successful white man who acts like a man and actually has a life outside the game.
in comparison, look at Uncle dane irl and his friends.
kinda makes you think, doesn't it?
Tin foil hat
Everything you said has nothing to do with why he's targeted by twitter
It's his personality, Twitter hates honest and direct people, afterall that places is filled with politocians the least trustworthy people ever
And despite being rough around the edges, you can feel he is genuine and honest.
A STRAIGHT WHITE MAN 🤯
What’s up with Uncle Dane? I don’t use Twitter so I wouldn’t know who he associates with.
@@TuShan18 idubbz ( a guy who got mocked because his wife bleeds him for money and got him mocked by the whole internet and in response he decided to mock a kid publicly)
Gotta thank Tom for showing me Zest. Thought I was going to see literal hitler, but found a deeply honest guy with a passion for a hobby he’s known and loved for nearly two decades. And it is because of his honesty and forthright attitude that all of these extremely fragile people vilify him. Unfortunate but I think a lot more fans came from this for Zest than not, at least it is for me.
lmao
he watches Short Fat Otaku too
gotta love Dev
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Chat: "You sound like Freddy Fazbear."
I still find it hilarious how you of all people is this controversial, I absolutely LOVE the fact you don't give a shit what people think and stick to their opinions. More people need to learn to do that these days
I saw turkey tom's stuff. I followed you when you had like 40 subs and same with turkey tom.
I feel that turkey tom's audience - who mind you know the likes of chris chan - realize you're a chill dude.
Love your content. Dont stop.
i swear the tf2 comments is so volatile to thinking about literally anything. I mean they are all mostly children so it is what it is.
I think you're alright. Pretty much aligned with everything Tom said. Not a fan of how much your chat seems to be so adamantly against the other TF2bers, but god damn some of the TF2bers really need to lay off and think about what they're doing.
I like your effort to improve TF2 and its community as a whole. I hope your channel the growth it deserves.
hey man i just wanted to say that you're a person that i respect, the fact that you don't hide your feelings about a subject and don't put up with the shit people throw at you
you're an honest man and i respect that, fuck everyone who can't deal with your OPINION (lol)
You're the only watchable "tf2tuber" man. Have a comment for the algorithm.
Never liked Tom after he led the pedo allegations against pyrocynical and then just didn’t say anything when he was proved wrong
2:11:25 you like Ancient Magius Bride too? I really thought the anime was a fun watch and kinda cute in some aspects, good to know it has some good publicity!
I disagree with his stance on a lot of game mechanics, but I appreciate Zesty's contributions to the TF2 community as well as his effort and creativity.
Love you zesty. It’s awesome when Tom makes content about you cause it highlights how chad you are, when he made the furry jokes I laughed so hard bc I give you and only you a pass lmao especially bc I want she hulk to pick me up so I get the muscle girl thing 😭😭
A person doesnt walk on eggshells around everyone and has oppinions that differ from others????? HOW COULD HE
Zesty, i never heard of you before the turkey tom video and you are being lambasted for absolutely nothing. Stay strong
Haven't seen much of you, but you got a nice beard.
Damn... I knew TF2 had bad apples (And i was at some point one of them until i decided to leave)
Rewatching some old tf2 vids and having these in my recommend makes me feel confused on whether i should laugh and mock at TF2 or feel sad for it
Especially Soundsmith and Solarlight with their stupid tweets/comments
I wasn't expecting them of all people to make me lose respect XD
God I am glad i left the community
it was awful
but at least Zesty is Cool
I used to get you and Big Joey (formerly Nuts Slapper) confused all the time, I severely apologize for that. Now thanks to you, I've spent obscene amounts of money on war paints again since 2018.
The community might not see it right now, but one day they'll realize how much of positive influence you had on this game's direct going forward. Keep up the good work, man 👍
33:36 "Soldier. You camped the whole time for this ?"
My King !
You dropped this 👑
Best “TF2 player that uploads videos” just because of your Helck recommendation
nah zesty you the goat
so, saying rtrded is offensive? I dont see a problem there :I
If liking strong women is wrong, I never want to be right!
Strong yet still feminine women >>>>>>
I agree.
@@malif1279based
casca best girl
asuka 2nd
Based r34 artist
Shork: "cry about it"
I think FaceIt is crying about it
Mans did nothing wrong and got so much shit for it. I watched the video expecting you to be some awful person but I ended up subbing because you seemed funny and didn't deserve the shit you got. I don't even play or know much about tf2, you just seemed to make interesting content and wanted to stick around.
Same
He's definitely flawed and did some dumb shit but he got WAY too much hate
plus his videos are mostly good
GOD SAME
Tom does videos on a lot of genuinely bad people but it's great to see him cover someone that's great and flamboyant as hell
@@_mono_01 not even bro hes just autistically honest just like me
yehh he is good. If he likes/dislikes he gives you the reasoning. Also who else can pull off 2+ ours stream without any script? Linus does WAN show 4+, but that is 3 plp.
Soundsmith is exactly why I don't trust these "toxic nice" people. They act super friendly to everyone but the second you disagree with them on something they couldn't be more cruel and vindictive. I'd much rather hang around abrasive people because at least they are genuine, while someone like Soundsmith is a snake in the grass. Same goes for Solarlight.
I think there is some deeper truth to these sorts of people and it is simply that they are out of line of reality. They believe in something that's downright false and they need to cover it up with some sort of fake "niceness". They believe being "nice" is a virtue but lack the understanding of what constitutes the real virtue of charity.
Contrary to popular belief, telling someone what they want to hear instead of the truth is actually evil. And that's essentially what all these effeminate "male feminist" (and whatever other labels they give themselves, including "ally") people are.
agree, both of their communities consist of children and stans because of the way these creators act. disgusting people
Didn't SoundSmith turn his back on his "friend" Bearded a few years ago, now the dude has been on downward spiral ever since ?
@@theabsolutetrashman3708 Idk. Change your pfp and banner
@@SirJad_ Nah
As much as you might dislike the term (keyword, might. I dunno what's your stance on it but people tend to overuse it) - you are the most based TFtuber currently active. You are never afraid to say what's on your mind - and that is a rare trait in people younger than 30
After all. The og meaning of based. Is to be yourself and speak your mind (this is from memory)
based
Couldnt agree more sir
Only next to that fluffy guy or what his name is.
@@vnkfrancis1328 BigBthefluffyredneck?
yeah no. comparing you to like pedos, content stealers, and people who actively make the game worse is crazy.
Oh, how so?@@victor-hw7gv
All Tom's video did was make me realize what a huge pos some other tf2 youtubers are and how quickly they will dogpile and shame someone.
most are too afraid of the twitter mafia. those spineless idiots will dogpile the baddie of the day without a second thought before getting canceled themselves in the future
@@darren8608It really just feels like a competition for who can virtue signal the hardest for the most ridiculous things behind the safety of the internet so they can pretend like they actually contributed to anything that actually matters for once in their life.
You just have to look at how Dane looks irl to see that he is a POS.
not the worst one
i remember turkey tom did this with pyrocinical and called him a pedo
Soundsmith does a tweet and gets a guy's family and animals threatened and gets no backlash, but if that shit happened to HIM, the whole TF2 community would dogpile on the guy. Man owns nothing of what he did and doesn't even seem to show regret. Honestly what the fuck?
Honestly I started to lose respect on a lot of TF2 UA-camrs because of these type of actions. Sure their content might be great, but if you're the type to let your community go unhinged against someone, then you got problems
@@SgtStevePH Soundsmith's "great content" = kill bind + funny ragdoll on 2fort or hightower, repeat for 10 mins
Tbf soundsmith sent literally 1 word and a emoji, he isn’t like Dream or something and targeted some rando and actually threw his audience at kid. Zesty can give critiques or make a joke out of something, SS can too. Neither wants or promoted harassment
Soundsmith didn't really do much, did he? Anything past his response seems out of his control. He's not sending out attackers, people do that on their own regardless of disclaimers against it. Remember the duped shovel incident? That was just a funny bit and people took it too far.
@@SuperMidH the matter is his actions have consequences, no matter how small they are. And he has a LOT of fans and unhinged people among his following like it or not. Him joining the discussion with however small a contribution has WIDE repercussions and that's something that should be accounted. It's not "oh he didn't do much", it's how that much turned into fuel for a widespread hate campaign.
Zesty was too normal for the modern internet/content creator crowd to handle
Honestly yeah actually.
To be honest, the Modern Internet/Content Creator crowd are one of the reasons the world is currently going to pot.
Zesty isn't degen enough for them
Ironic because he's autistic as well. Sometimes autists really are better at being normal than some freakshows in this community.
"but, the monetization 😢😢"
You are the only tf2 voice I listen to anymore. No one else has anything to say that's creative or helpful.
Him, HintShot, and most of the chucklenuts
I think Shounic is one of the best modern TF2 UA-camrs. And to be honest, I actually like Dane's content when he uploads even though I disagree with some of his takes.
Solarlight has like 10k hours on just demoknight, of course he has termanilly online brainrot. Actually a victim of his own stupidity.
Not only that, but he writes long essays on reddit and has tried to get Zesty deplatformed over old tweets. Not surprised that he never leaves his bedroom, let alone his house.
Man it feels weird to know that I had a lot of respect for SL for his demo skills. Now I can see that he's just wasting his youth on a dying game. Many such cases.
@@moonblade7564 well, truth be told any game is a waste of time.
Really sucks cuz I liked Solarlight's videos and had no idea about this shit before now. I'm gonna have to unsubscribe.
@@pelonio6181 Online games are a huge waste of time but I think many single players are great tools for relaxing or experiencing an interesting story. But yes, even single player vidya can be huge time wasters
1:37:35 We're open sourcing the code behind the anticheat, not the fully trained AI model itself.
You're completely correct that open sourcing the part that detects cheating is stupid, as cheaters can use that information to ensure they're never detected by it.
Fucking badass
nice
nice
The funniest thing is that the software of the bots and cheats is also OpenSource xddddd
Good thing we've got that cleared up. Wishing you the best for the project mate
man this stream was straight up BUSSIN fr. No cap!
I'm going to slap you
@@ZestyJesusHes not wrong tho
@@ZestyJesusdo it
fr fr! no cap on a stack!
😂😂😂
I'm glad to see so many people take Zesty's side after watching and seeing him get crap since 2021.
People like Zesty are genuinely acting as a public mental health service. If every single person I ever dealt with was as much of a gigantic fanny as the average redditor I would go utterly mental. People with a slightly more edgy sense of humour and less "sensitive" personality help to cut through the treacle and keep me sane. Cheers, Zesty.
Very well said
I'm fully convinced that hell is just a split image of our world but everybody acts like they're from reddit
@@energeticyellow1637 Now all we need is a DoomSlayer to help clean up...
Facts. I always preffered hanging around more abrassive and blunt people over moral busybodies that act nice until you disagree with them on something. At least the former is honest.
Glad this wasn't just a "yeah i was wronged." And had something to say towards it and kept his composure
The thing that suprised me the most was SolarLights response to everything, it seems so out of character for someone like me who only sees his videos.
I guess we can’t trust anybody or anyone in the internet, no matter how good they are at something, that won’t excuse their shortcomings
@@galanga21890 i agree, I think twitter is truly a “hell site” and (unfortunately) it’s one of the loudest and worst ones
He is lowkey unhinged and weird on twitter lmao
@@justsara1238 I feel like that applies with everyone on that site. Something about it has a paranormal effect where everyone on it starts acting unhinged.
All these content creators dog piling zesty just shows that they prefer woke points over anything else
@@christiancastro434 i dont think it’s for “woke points” I just think not a lot of “big” youtubers truly know WHO zesty is.
They see the “toxic” traits that he has and they make their mind up with that, I can’t blame them, I thought exactly like them before going into my own zesty deep dive.
Plus it’s good PR for them
Chronic onlineitis has whrecked a generation.
Not really. Noiser people just attract more attention.
Sounds like a term straight from Twitter
thats a whreck ass typo
TF2 on youtube/reddit/twitter really seems like a bunch of terminally online, fragile, sissified idiots that get pissed at every minuscule inconvenience or different opinion that doesn't appeal to their hivemind. Solar and SoundSmith are so brainrotten for what they did, and lost all of my respect for these morons.
Zesty did not deserve any the hate that he got. You handled this shitshow well, stay strong man.
Tf2 on social media and tf2 ingame are almost seperate communities at this point.
Really surprised when the video showed Soundsmith of all people being one of the people to ruin Zesty's life, really made me rethink about him since I never really get the impression that he's that type of guy. Then again you don't really know someone because you watch them playing games over the internet, do you?
@@superbrainz2357gotta wonder how the Twitter/Reddit and YT communitiy plays the game when it's unbelievably unfiltered
@@superbrainz2357 To be frank, that is the same everywhere. Anything on Social Media is mostly seperate from the actual community.
The only one that is almost exactly like their social media community so far, is Overwatch.
As someone who's into the music/western cartoon sphere. TF2 is FARRRRR from this being an outlier of this problem.
"They hated Jesus, because he was telling the truth"
Never has a silly meme fit better.
@PootisMaykr Nah, it's a meme. it's from Monty Python
@@thunderspark1536Nah, it's from one of those little Christian booklets some churches hand out/leave around.
@@trashbash2788Which one?
@@alface935 Charlie's Ants by Jack Chick
@@trashbash2788 Thank You for the Help
man never watched you, but damn liking strong woman and tf2 is my thing so i guess im in the right place
Welcome to the party
I prefer timid glasses girls but this dude's content is still fire in my book
They're all mad because Zesty said "I'm not gonna sugarcoat it F,N,DF"
Isn't it F,N,D,DF?
@@mat8791 That's EWGF. PEWGF doesn't have the down input.
DAMN!!
Damn, my respect for Soundsmith just went way down, jesus
Same, that's screwed up and no apology was given
i lost it all when he talked smack about centrists, they just wanna grill
Personally I had no respect for him
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413when did he do that
I didn't lose respect for him, for me the issue is that they probably just abide by the masses of the community which leads to them not actually understanding his persona.
Your only mistake was ever apologizing to the twit police. Keep it up with your good work 👍
The Most Punished TF2 Player, a Man Denied of His War Paints
the soundsmith tweet thing is absurd, these people are utterly insane
I actually took notice of Zesty thanks to Wamo's video, I felt bad for him and it led me to appreciate his content. I ended up DM'ing him after the Soundsmith ratio post saying how I was really disappointed in SS and the rest of the TF2 community, etc. Since then Zesty has been one of the TF2 creators that I respect the most
You watch Wamo?
He is like the biggest clickbaiter tf2 has to offer
@@bruschetta7711 Just that one Zesty video way back when it released, don't worry lol
This is what tends to happen. After a major clowning on a person, people tend to follow suit robotically.
So as someone that left the TF2 game and community and came back like half a year ago.
The fuck happend? Were TF2 players allways that thin skinned? Your oppinions are not even bad/radical they honestly seems to be pretty tame.
His crime: liking women who do sit ups.
Slurs are contextual but holy shit nobody deserves to be targeted and harrassed irl. I hope the nutjobs that targeted you irl get what they deserve (cuffs and therapy)
I think what's so much worse is how the trans community have took it upon themselves to make up a slur and declare it as such and now DEMAND reparation from anyone who dare used a short hand of a word. Tranny always existed, for example, as short hand for transmission with relation to mechanics. Granny also existed as short hand for grandmother.
The fact that these people arbitrarily decided they wanted their own "n word" is so downright narcissistic, it hurts.
@@WyattStrange It's fine, as long as I can send deаth threats and goгe to trainns as well, it's a fair and square.
@@NoSoupForYouu Nah, tranny's a slur, I use it on those subhumans day in day out.
@@NoSoupForYouu beware of the tr00n platoon
@@NoSoupForYouuWhatever it takes to get that victim status.
Out of all these goofy dramas, it was pretty interesting learning about Zesty jesus' career.
Yet another fellow tall man of science I can relate to.
Zesty, you are a pillar to the tf2 community. You’re genuinely bullet proof and stand your ground. People are too extreme these days, and I hope you never let that get to you.
I wish there were more youtubers like this
TF2 doesn't need to "catch up" to modern games, it's all charm in the way it is...
Wow, I seriously cannot comprehend how can someone literally send death threats to you and your family (!) over a TWEET, especially when you literally said NOTHING WRONG in said tweet (seriously, what you said is just common sense lmfao). Honestly, I wouldn't even consider those psychos real people, just how deranged they must be to do something like that...
Anyways, my heart goes out to you, Zesty! Don't let the haters and whackjobs and twitter mob get to you, your content is great and you deserve way more subs and recognition, and I hope you get it!
i personelly think the straight forward criticism is exactly what the game needs. If everyone just copes with the state of the game and say"everything is fine"(even if its not), then nothing will change. I like your videos for that
Even after watching your stream and hearing your responses to turkey tom.
My thoughts nor opinions change about you, nor my feelings. As I don’t hate you Zesty Jesus and I find your content to be pretty good and give you respect for not being afraid to say what others think that or how things are shit.
Instead I just tip my hat to you good sir and say good job. 👍
with this camera angle and haircut, he looks like the evil jerma twin
I don't watch modern tf2 youtubers because most are mentally ill consumers with a large sunk cost fallacy that all have the exact same opinions on everything but you genuinely seem like the most normal guy because you speak your mind and want to have fun online instead of becoming a terminally online loser like the modern tf2 player
honest to god I watched turkey toms video and immediately subscribed to you, I do not play tf2, but the community of the game you loves so much has no reason to treat you so badly
51:36
had a great idea for giving Sniper a nice nerf
it's by giving all Sniper Rifles a Magazine of 1,
and each time after firing it will play a reload animation of Sniper cocking back the bolt, loading a new cartridge, and cocking it forward again
essentially halfing his fire rate while making it look a lot more visually appealing
maybe throw in a scope in speed and boom
there you go
Eh... That just makes playing sniper in general a bit grueling if you have to wait more then you already do missing a shot. Id say add tracer rounds to all his shots, and lower his ammo count in general
Funnily enough, in Meet the Sniper, that is _Exactly_ how Sniper reloads his Rifle. It just happens so fast, as Mun-Dee is performing a "Bullet between the Fingers" trick (Done by holding a bullet between the index and middle finger and inserting the bullet into the chamber when the bolt is being set into the Receiver). It is a trick done by "Trickshooters" or those who have guns that either are Single shot or have a Magazine Cutoff (i.e. The Krag Jorgensen).
Though to be honest, actually animating the trick into the reload animation _Would_ add an extra Second or two... And it would look pretty cool... Oh, and here is an addition:
-Taking damage during reload will result in a 25% Chance that you will catch your Thumb in the Bolt.
...Which is possibly Canon to Mun-Dee, as when Mun-Dee Scratches his Cheek in Meet the Sniper, you can see a Black Line on the Base of his Thumbnail. That is known as "Garand Thumb", a type of injury which originated from the M1 Garand and how US soldiers attempting to "Race the Bolt", got injured from getting their thumb caught in the Bolt during reload, sometime breaking the Thumb Bone.
If he has "Garand Thumb" in the Meet the Sniper Video, it means he got it recently... Which means that Mun-Dee has had several cases of getting his Thumb Caught in the Bolt of his Rifle.
@@Victor-056 really fun idea
really like it
but feels way too gimmicky to be a default sniper ability
honestly think It should be on it's own weapon imo
@@Sleepy_Cabbage well, to be more specific
it gives sniper a nice nerf to _quick scoping_
Tracer Shot and Decreased Reserved Ammo does sound better on top of my quick scope nerf
cause a slower reload would IMO make quick scoping feel more rewarding
and it would just look cooler too
@@Victor-056adding rng that significant is a big no no
A problem a lot of people have is that many people seem to think all opinions are like law, rigid and non-flexible, your allowed to like certain things and dislike things made by the same person.
Exactly, God forbid that I agreed with the take of someone I dislike.
Or that people think that disliking something means you hate all the people behind it.
For example some think that if someone dislikes homosexuality that somehow equals wanting to publicly execute gay people or something.
I honestly don't get Tom's aversion to you liking muscular women. Compared to a lot of other grown ass men on this platform that is like by far one of the least weirdest things you could be attracted to lol
zesty has his type, tom has his own
@@derargent4692 hey i wasn't calling tom out, just saying there are a lot of... creepy people on this site
@@gooseteeth5455 true that *very* true
To each their own. Plus body types exist so there's that.
That's probably sarcasm. Let's be real for a moment, even the manliest of man can be turned on by a muscular woman
Along with Dane, Lazy and Joey you are the only good/decent tftuber left in this ceespool of a community
*Sad bearded expense noises*
maybe even FSOAS? ( fish stick on a stick )
Great content, but makes me depressed during streams and wanna pull my hair out when he whines about the kunai for the 167th time.
@@jacklayne8137 eh, same energy with zesty sometimes
@@jacklayne8137didn't bearded do shady shit with commissions also?
Also you're kinda like litmus test - usually the ytbers who actively go after you are either holders of idiotic opinions or had some questionable character to them (or both). So if a "member of tf2 community" doesn't like you it's usually a redflag.
No, I think that's just glazing and a very black-and-white way of thinking.
That Soundsmith story is wild lmao, but honestly not surprising at all to me.
honestly hate how much people just despise you, its disgusting to see it, we live in a time where if someone disagrees with you, they have to send you the most depreaved shit possible, even illegal shit, just to make you feel disgusted and get a '1-up' on you.
Like an example, i don't like shork, some of his videos are alright, but I hate the shit he did to you, treated you, yet he gets to interview the fucking voice actors, which I believe he doesn't deserve, but he is, and glad someone is, as we need those actors to love. That shit though with Soundsmith, hearing that he did all of that shit, and had the fucking nerve to promote a loved based event for charity, but was for trevor project or something, if I knew that he was doing that much, that shit isn't worth any medal or any help to that dude.
Yet though, notice how I don't say I hate these people as they are shitheads or whatever they suggest, I hate their opinions and hate what they did.
Zesty is a flawed but good guy, and people that suggest that he is otherwise are probably people that are more evil compared to the evil that is 'zesty' (jk but honestly they have done some disgusting shit just because they hate you or hate what you say)
Thank you Zesty for being a damn good youtuber and fighting for people that can't really speak up too well, hope to be somewhat like you in the future, but hope for the far less shit you had to deal with. All the love for ya bud and if you ever need someone to talk to, always here for ya bud!
Your only mistake that I find within the turkey tom video analysis of you is you apologizing to the people of twitter. I'm serious when I say they'll take down anyone if they deem it even though the person that made the mistake is apologizing. Next time you get into a controversy regarding racism/(insert buzzword)phobia, just let it pass and ignore it, be a better person quietly. These "people" are not worth apologizing to. Other than that, I think you're pretty funny and I subbed since that faceit tf2 video of yours. You always go on your way to say your thoughts on how to make the game better, and I like that
Honestly it's weird how he encapsulated my opinion on you in general pretty well over all. I have been wanting someone to talk about it that actually had an open mind and would look at the facts here so I appreciate his video a lot
Also:I had watched his video RIGHT before you uploaded the stream haha
So what did we learn about Zesty in this video?
Soundsmith is horrible.
@MariaFlores-KAII so what we know from your comment.
Mariaflores is a big soundmith meat rider and a ex dream stan
@MariaFlores-KAII You belong in a straightjacket
pissing off chronically online people from twitter is like pissing off the government at this point, it's pitiful to waste 90% of your life harassing and stalking a person that you'd never met in person
how tf did i never realize zesty was buff asuka this whole time, holy shit
I thought his avatar was Baiken from Guilty Gear the whole time
@@shapshapshapshap2829Close enough
I apologize, no matter the argument no matter the person, hacking someone's email and spamming them with cp and gore is unjustifiable, the people who did this to you are 10 times worse then you'll ever be
I've been watching you since the first Pac Man race and it's been AWESOME. He's definitely a clover amongst the grass.
Don't normally comment as often but just dropping my support. I don't normally stay subscribed to people because once they go fake or start to produce trash content I tend to unsub, but everything you've produced has been and felt genuine and with your heart put into it.
Just like everyone you have your flaws but you, at the very least, are genuine and are striving towards something good and it shows, especially by your tough love towards TF2. This may all sound stupid because at the end of the day "it's just a video game" but it's a reflection of your personality and I believe that sort of thing can carry over into more serious topics that aren't video games.
God speed Zesty.
32:47 I'm leaving this comment as a timestamp of Solarlight being a POS edit: and 49:19
wow, the fact that soundsmith, solarlight and shork decided to harass you to THESE fucking lengths made my respect for them decrease, this is utterly not even cool for them.
i really thought they were better then this, but i guess you're the only STABLE person on this game with good information.
stay safe and keep it up bro, these weird degenerates on twitter and reddit can't do shit to you because they're just TF2 soyboys wanting to put an "end to the bad people" when you're one of the good guys.
While I can't talk for solarlight and shork, I can say I don't think soundsmith meant to harass anyone, it's more an unhinged fan that took shit way too far for no reason in this case, hard to put the blame only on soundsmith with that one.
However, now that the story's out, if soundsmith does not take any action toward either dealing with said unhinged fan (or fans) or at the very least apologize for the IRL stress caused, then yes soundsmith is a legitimate donkey.
@@MedusaBigTiddyGothGF well, still, all three of them need to get better at dealing with drama,
because really, zesty did nothing wrong, but make good abrasive opinions on stuff for TF2, and everyone went at him, albeit soundsmith prob didn't mean it but if he did? oof, thats gonna negatively impact his reputation.
along with the other two.
@@vanillatherealone that I very much agree with
@@MedusaBigTiddyGothGF The thing is when you tweet out "Ratio" in a smug tone, you can't be surprised if your fans take it to the extreme. So, imo, that meant that SS either knew something akin to that would happen,(Maybe not to the extent that it did but still) or is too ignorant to be making remarks/picking "fights" like that.
If SS apologizes and lectures his fans about it then it's fine, but It's still a little too late for that.
Dude likes buff girls, why this bothers so many people?
Wait until he finds out what Clanner women look like in the BattleTech.
Because Asuka, the character his OC is based on is, you guess it "She is literally a minor!!!!!!!1!"
@@shiawase8694 OH NO NOT A FICTIONAL MINOR WHATEVER SHALL WE DO
@@shiawase8694i mean he's not putting his dick in it nor is it actually real the asuka and is fictional. Like come on dude, not everything is about fucking.
@@shiawase8694 and? if you like some female character it also means you want to have sex with that character?
tbh i dont agree with some of your political opinions but your videos are good
Completely fair and reasonable
I'm glad there are takes like these. Respectful disagreements
Sorry that you had to deal with some legitimate degnerates who sent what they sent. How you could sink to this level is beyond me
This video helped me to hate TF2Tubers a lot more. Good stream Zesty.
Its nice looking under the comments on that video and seeing overwhelming support for you and your content. Stay true to yourself, Zesty
The first time I heard of you was from that Wamo video, and I instantly knew he was a PoS and you were at least a normal person. Keep up the good work, fuck the haters
I hate the modern mindset that creators are responsible for their audience's behavior, so I don't think SoundSmith deserves to be "held accountable" for that, but fuck him anyway.
If fans and internet users in general weren’t crazy, what soundssmith did would not have been bad. He probably didn’t expect his fanbase to go apeshit on zesty(although, I can’t claim to know what his intentions were). But not even bothering to apologize afterward for what you did, even if unintentional, is a massive dick move. So yeah, fuck him.
just finished watching that video, you rock man, never change for the sake of pleasing anyone
Not having watched the video prior to the stream I fully expected this to be a hit piece against you, but respect where it is due the guy actually had some solid points, albeit it did feel like some was cherry picked.
Much love to ya, brother.
gotta love the dude getting harassed by literally everyone and how hes apparently the one harassing people with his audience