F-14A Tomcat Vs Mig-28 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Have you done f16 vs f14b yet?
Great to watch... movie nostalgia :)
Why do you have the AIM-54 racks mounted when you are not carrying any? I thought they added weight and increased wing loading by disrupting the lifting body effect?
"Goddamn compressor stalls"
-literally every F-14a pilot
Fun fact:
The F5s used in top gun as MIG28s retained their flat black/red star Hollywood paint schemes and continued to serve as aggresors until they were retired.
One of them now lives in a little no name air museum outside of Clifton park NY... its parked next to an F14... have a pic of them.
pretty cool.
Don't some T-38s from Beale use the black/red scheme?
@@Bunjamin27 yes we do.
@Mars Exulte I’m from Fort Worth, is it the one at the Fort Worth aviation museum?
There’s still aggressors painted in the black and red star scheme at Fallon, NV too
Oh shit I’ve got some pics from there a family friend who was a crew chief on one of the Arctic c130’s there but I had no idea that that was actually one of the movie planes and now that I remember I need to go up there again and meet with him
Dude, the F-14 makes me nervous with those swinging motions. It makes me want to get out, slam the door like in an old pick-up truck, and kick it.
Lold ya I can relate to that sometimes
Fly the Bf 109 and you'll get familiar with that swinging very quickly.
Basically, the plane is in a state of uncoordinated flight(the nose is not pointing where the aircraft is actually moving towards) and on all the Fly By Wire jets the computer will correct for you. The F-14 is maybe the highest performing jet fighter that does not have a FBW computer... so you need two reeeeeeeaaaally sensitive and experienced feet on the rudder pedals to prevent this.
More so in a Bf 109 with its really strong torque. If you can keep "the ball centered" during maneuvering in a109, preventing the wobble in the F-14 will feel like childs play. :)
@@sd501st5 I gotta hand it to sim pilots, I when I started actually flying, stick and rudder skills like keeping the ball centered are 10x easier in the real plane, it must take a lot of practice to get good at it online.
@@sd501st5 yeah I got into flight sims with the likes of il:2 1946 and war thunder (“sim” is generous I know) so learning all the ww2 planes and properly flying airplanes, plus playing il:2 battle of Stalingrad regularly now, hopping into the tomcat is very easy in my opinion, just getting used to actually needing rudder before getting into it is so important
@@sd501st5 Also the MiG-29.
No one:
Jester: ooo a peace of candy
That’s a Family Guy reference
That caught me of guard so hard
@@Ghoster311 That family guy episode is a Simpsons reference.
HAHAHA GREAT comment!!! I literally replayed that like 5 times and was laughing my @$$ off! Happy Holidays and stay safe! o7
@@EnhancedCognition All 19 seasons are basically a Simpsons reference.
Growling sidewinder: doing his best to survive the dogfight.
Jester: oooo peace of candy
A walk in the park.
GS: Is almost at the point of a kill
F-14: *Compressor stall*
ahahah ya pretty much
@@GrowlingSidewinder Considering how experienced Shotgun is, i would not be surprised if he actively tried force you into these.
I've been waiting for this so long.
I'm still hoping for the F-16 vs Kfir!
@Rene Estevez - YESSSS :)
Did you manage to show them the bird?
12:14 "I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by".
"You're gonna whaaaaat?" 😆 lol
@@Use-or-Lose you know they only allowed one practice Aim 9 and one Aim7 to be filmed in launch for the movie? Thats why they constantly show the same missile being launched in the final A2A fight scene.
Great baaaaalls a' fire!
If you’re gonna question my plans I’ll just not tell you what I’m gonna do in future ok Goose? All the ‘whaats’ are frankly distracting.
Get your butts above the hard deck and return to base immediately goose we’re going to buzz the tower
Tower this is Ghostrider 114 requesting a fly by negative Ghostrider the pattern is full sorry goose it time to buzz the tower god dammit maverick
A10 vs su25. I know I keep asking but I dont have a pc or anything to play dcs on. Pls do it 🥺
@@Kozak806 yeah, but how about we watch it anyway? :D
I've seen you requesting this same fight over and over again... Lol
@@KJ-kn8pg yeah I have been
I think the Su-25A would win that. The Su-25T wouldn't stand a chance though, it's such a pig.
@@MRB2580 frogfoot best gurl
I've started watching these because I have always been enthralled by dogfighting and fighter jets. However more recently, it takes me out of my world for a few minutes and gives my mind something to focus on and it relaxes me. Thanks for the R&R.
my pleasure brother I'm glad they can give you a few moments of peace.
Find Jesus, find peace.
No joke, in the official Threat Guide the Air Force uses, in the "F-14A Tomcat Strengths and Weaknesses" table, listed as a strength: "Highly effective speedbrakes versus MiG-28"!
I shit you not.
MIG-28 nobody been this close before
Because it never existed
Keeping up foreign relations
@@imadrifter I hate when it does that
What exactly what we’re you doing there keeping up foreign relations you know the finger yes I know the finger goose I hate it when it does that
How do you get he mig 28 skin I have tried to cha nge it for dogfights but cant seem to find it
Exactly happened like how real life pilots ("you see 'em, you beat 'em") said usually F-14 vs F-5 should go. F-14 had every advantage over the MIG-28 on paper and would wipe the floor with the F-5 with equally well trained pilots, but I have heard an instructor in the F-5 and a student in the F-14 could make the F-5 difficult to beat for the student.
accurate same thing applies for A4 v F-14 trained Top Gun instructors would give F-14 students hell with the A4
@@GrowlingSidewinder True. Thanks.
Your adversary is one of the more impressive opponents I’ve seen you fly against. Despite being in a pretty inferior aircraft he made you work for those kills.
Im early, cool. Id like to see the F15 vs F14A
Me2
The tomcat is gonna get smoked by the eagle
aren't GS already did that years ago? check his link, that one probably the one u'r looking for.
@@nbn461 what r u talking bout? GS smoked the eagle already years ago
@@thunderboltcougar5626 Im meaning with the new A variant. see if there is any difference
Can we please get goose's voice for the rio
"Goose is dead, man."
- Heatblur
Rip goose
It was cool to see you flying one of my old squadrons. I was in VF-51 just after "Top Gun" was released. VF-51, and VF-124 to an extent, which I was attached to during the shooting of the movie; they did most of the grunt work for the movie. Did two cruises with the "Screaming Eagles;" '87 - '91, then back to VF-124.
If you fly any Navy F-4J, or S, or N models, use VF-21 "Freelancers" colors. Did two cruises with them too, with the N variant, even though we started with J's, transitioned to S's, and had to retransition to N's, for work on the USS Coral Sea: '78 - 83. I was an AQ, through and through. (Until they made us all AT's.)
I'm so glad you went three rounds. That last one especially was fantastic. The tension when you overshot... oof.
I just love the Tomcat it’s so rewarding when you get a hit and the blood pressure goes up when that thing gets on the thing and squeeze the thing and watch that thing go down smoking like a barbecue grill 👍🏻
It’s always a pleasure watching your vids ... cheers and salute.
Wow Grumman - Given the Tomcat's penchant for compressor stall and violent low airspeed departure, it would've at least been nice to have put an airspeed indicator into your HUD.
FYI:
Jester will only call the black "Russian" livery of the F5 a Mig-28
Is the livery already in game or do you have to install it yourself?
@@stahlhelm5755 it is included with the F5
(if I remember correctly, it's been a while since I installed it)
The RWR spike also changes to a 28.
Some of the most remarkable days of my life were on Ike surrounded by f-14’s, A-6’a, A-7’s and finally the FA-18’s... but nothing hold my heart as much as the F-14. I was at the end of F-4 era... love that aircraft also.. but the F-14 on deck with the sun going down behind F-14’s is ethereal
I would have to say that in 1988 an exercise between the USS Independence and the Chilean Air Force would have had mostly incompetent Tomcat pilots, because the F5 drivers gave them hell, with rules very similar to this video. Jeffrey Ethel wrote an article for Air Combat magazine at the time
Clicked on this video faster than the tomcat it's self.
You should recreate the last dog fight in top gun.
Godzilla Kaiju boy I'd be more impressed if he recreated the last dog fight from Hot Shots
I’m sure I heard somewhere that the F-14A drivers were more conservative with throttle usage during BFM, in that they’d switch only between Mil power and AB. This reduced the risk of a compressor stall. Have you read/heard anything on this?
Not sure about only using Buster or Burner, but I have heard pilots say they were more conservative with throttle movements and throttle positions.
I have heard that the f14A tf-30 engines took super long to respond to throttle changes because they were designed for a bomber (f-111).
1 F14 Tomcat Vs 2 J15 For Next Video?!(BVR Fight)
GS: trying to win
Jester: Ooo piece of candy
And where is my inverted -4g dive?
@@johnnybravo5758 yeah,
13:12 you should have hit the brakes, he would have flown right by
I FEEL THE NEED
@Aidan Evans OW!
@Aidan Evans HELL YEAH BROTHER
THE NEED FOR SPEED!!!!
I always root for the little F-5 in these fights. Nice little aircraft that. Seeing a chonky Tomcat hang with it was the highlight of my week 😂 brilliant fight!
I’d love to see the final moments from your victim’s POV too. Can you get their recorded vids an cut those in showing you taking them out?
p-47 vs 190 d9? I think it would be interesting because those two planes preformed similar roles in the war and likely have similar flight capabilities.
This video is fresh out the box: 742 views.
1553 now.
nice original comment never done before...
13:54 What was that puff of smoke of the F5?
I wondered that too
13:31 when the Jester is sus
Jester was not an imposter. 2 Impostors remain.
"Ejection Time for you Jester"
Great video, thanks.
It would be great do the same dogfight but you flying the F-5 instead. It could apply to other videos too. I'm pretty confidence you could win those dogfight too!
Hey!!!
What about the slow-motion killshots from the HUD?
Not possible with tomcat footage man
@@GrowlingSidewinder that's a shame...
@@GrowlingSidewinder Yeah... just slow motion staring at the cockpit frame.
Permission to buzz the tower!!
Permission denied, flight pattern is full.
I read the original script for Top Gun the other day, the first dogfight sequence is so much cooler in the script compared to the film. The following scene after Cougar crash lands on the deck (yup) is also hilarious and great character development.
Waiting for Jester to say, "..no one's ever been this close!"
After the A4 flight it's as if you read my mind! Ace video as always. Don't think I will ever tire of these and you have helped me improve no end.
F-14 in the title? Can't. Click. Fast. Enough.
Oh man the forward cockpit view in the tomcat seems like a major hassle; you can lose sight of your target so easily.
Love seeing my old squadron in action again. V-154 Black Knights Baby....
What the hell was he leaking that continued flying for 5 minutes? 😐
If it's possible, pls make F-14 vs Su-57 (just messing around) attempt #2
Slower target trying to get you to overshoot: barrel roll around his flight path. You will go 5x distance that he does. Then you can keep power and speed up and stay behind him. (As long as he does not transition to rolling scissors with you so do this before you get beside him). Great videos, commentary, and debrief.
Rafale vs f-14B. I know it will suck, but worth the entertainment!
From Bangladesh bro
You can pick up an F5 for less than $500k. One of if not THE only supersonic training jets.
My A2A game is still not good, but it is so much better after watching GS videos. This channel is a must for DCS players looking to learn.
Tom cruise called he wants his movie back lol
Could you turn on the control indicator (RCtrl + Enter) in future F-14 videos? The amount of stick and rudder input is quite important to see in a Tomcat.
The piece of candy was on the floor of the nav position so when you rolled the aircraft it floated to eye level of jester. Where he plucked it and ate it.
does anyone know what model tomcat maverick and foose fly in the OG Top Gun? A or B?
It must be A model. They are taking off with afterburner. The engines in model B and D are so powerful that you dont need, and was not allowed to use afterburner. This because risk of damaging the ship.
It was a A version cuz its the only module that could get a compressor stall
Yup A version it was also the most common version in use by the US Navy.
Love the videos, but can you keep showing the kills on the HUD in slo-mo please?
Finalllly!! I'm surprised it took this long. Now again, with missiles? Would love to see you in the Mig-28 and some more outside-the-cockpit, flyby, and kill shots.. Now we just need the F-16 vs Kfir battle!
Its been inevitable F14 vs Mig 28. Hahah Great stuff!
Gutted you didnt enter into an inverted negative 4G dive with him to keep up foreign relations...
Looks like an F-5 but it's a MIG-28? My brain was so confused...
Just watch Topgun again and all will make sense
Maybe try to open up the wings at the merge to have the best turning rate. I am not sure but it makes sense
if you do that and ur speed is too high you will rip those wings clean off. when ur slow and you sweep them you can trick the guy into thinking ur fast, but not the other way around.
Ah but you’ve forgotten the key step to gaining proficiency in the F-14:
The volleyball match.
I was inverted.
I just can't believe how well that giant pig flies. That being said it's the coolest plane ever made. I'm going to have to get myself that module, though I still can't fly my F18 at all.
Definitely a big bird, she ain’t easy to fly you just have to get used to not overdoing any stick movements.
You are toying with the Mig-28 for way too long, not taking many opportunistic shots.
“Ass to face” had me rolling on the ground. Thanx GS
Try to not pass 15 units of AOA on dogfight, and modify your pitch curve to 15~20, the aircraft will handle curves a lot better
Oooo peace of cany
Notification gang wya 🔥
Every day
So its true thats two "Mig28" can beat the Cat and Eagle. I love when it comes down to history and not only the 4th gen planes. You guys does a great job to show us what we cant find at elsewhere.
You think it's a MIG-28 until you observe he has only has one tail pipe... o_0 Oh sweet mother Mary! It's an F-20... >_< Well shit!
This reminds me of top gun mostly of the part when Tom cruise flips the mig pilot off.
Say hi to the birdie!!! Abhhh I crack myself up
It's pitty that there is no Zero (yet?) in the DCS world. You could make another epic movie replay from The Final Countdown: "Splash the Zero!" :)
You should do a 6 vs 1 like in the movie.
Jester would get on my nerves really quick
For some reason I absolutely love his character
You can tell him to shut up.
VF-154 wins again.
Yeahhhhh kkkkkkk top gun kakakak
Keep putting it that quality content as always man. Thanks for that. You’d never disappoint
Thanks to your videos I installed DCS. I am so looking forward to get my Frogfoot on a spin. You make it look so easy, whereas I am still trying to figure out my MIG :) Persistence is the key. Maybe one day we will go into a merge - one circle. kudos to you!
GS you should click on that gunsight camera below the HUD to remove it and get a tinsy bit more visibility!
PLEASE do a vid with you in the “MiG-28” and your opponent in the F-14!
Mr sidewinder has been liking the F-14A recently
loving it man
You should repeat this with a JH-17. Closer to the mythical mug-28😂
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Round 1
FINALLY??? You reminded me of my cat that brought a live mouse home and proceeded to play with it for an hour before killing it.........
Keep on kicking ass Growler!!
Why MIG-28 can't exist? Because In Russia, even numbers are given to bombers, and odd numbers to fighters. There are exceptions, (SU-30 for example) but only for export and very rarely.
Russia: hey that f-5 looks pretty cool, can I check out?
USA: ok, but don’t copy it, be original
Russia: da
Russia: *mig-28.
USA: 😑
I thought F-14 pilots were taught to use energy tactics vs angles tactics. Like Mavrick your above average flying saved the day. Next time try going into the vertical. Reference the documentary "Speed and Angles"
the gentlemen from Eagle Dynamics SA needed to release a special pocket with the legendary Soviet mig-28 fighter at a fabulous price and they would buy it 😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I definitely hit him. Is he dead? Nope. Damn maybe he is a Russian Mig28.”
Lol. Is there ANY flight sim game without Russian biased Stalinium planes?
What most people don't realize is just how big the tomcat is... The TAIL span of the tomcat is wider than the entire WINGspan of the F5.
Keep up the good work I really love your vids a lot and it’s very enjoyable and entertaining
F-111 vs Su-24.
I've watched a lot of your videos (I enjoy them) and I've always wondered, why not shoot a shorter range missle like in the movie? I see what looks like a lot of opportunity to use missiles (like around 9:05) but maybe you don't have any short range on board? Or maybe you just need to be further away? I've always wanted to ask.
They are doing dogfights so guns only, if they were doing normal bfm the heat seekers would have ended the fight real quick
First
Thx for saying that. I was confused about what the hell is Mikoyan Gurevich-28 and why the hell it looks like F-5.
Life or death and jester is over here playing with candy