Problem: a WaRpEd guitar top!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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High action turned out to be a symptom of trouble for this guitar. The owner felt the strings were a little high. Taking a closer look, Dan Erlewine finds that the bridge is just about to pop off! A hump had formed under the bridge, and Dan comes up with an interesting solution.
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That bridge pop-out bit, hilarious.
+notanotherreviewer Agreed :)
+notanotherreviewer Tbh I almost sh*t myself when that happened haha
Nicely played!
+1 I literally jumped when it popped off :D
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Dan represents everything that is good about UA-cam... taking the skills you have learned through years of doing what you love and sharing it with world one video at a time.
Keep in mind this is an add for stewmac, nothing more.
Your comment is a bit off. It is a lot more than that, both inspirational and educational delivered with humour and seasoned expertise. He even uses handmade tools and simple methods you can do at home without spending on tools.
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Yes, and the bridge popping off was pretty funny too....
cast390 It's ad, and it really is more than just an ad.
@@cast390 haha it's more than just an add. You can tell Dan has a real passion.
The popping bridge scared me a bit
I dont get why other guitar techs and luthiers rag on this guy, i think hes awesome
It's a thing called "Jealousy" - he is one of only a few YouTubists I'd trust with any of my guitars.
Because he is good at his job, he is honest, and he doesn't have an ego. There are too many "It's my way or the highway" guys out there and Dan is a "I'm going to show you how I do it, just my two cents" type of person.
I used to apprentice under a very well known luthier/tech in NYC who's demeanor was very much like Dan's,
The 2 of them crossed paths numerous times and he always told me that dan was the nicest and most genuine guy he'd ever met, as well as the BEST in the business. Tells you how a true professional will talk about the best..the guys who would dare rag on Dan are the hacks of the world.
DelTangBrav Amen!
BAJARACER43X They rag on him because of the stuff Stew-Mac sells. Every video is a commercial for their products (Theres nothin wrong with that though)
"Back In The Saddle Again" after tweaking the saddle. :) I love nerd humor. You da man Dan!
How can even one person dislike anything about Dan Erlewine? I wouldn't run a guitar repair shop without finding this man on UA-cam and his video's / books are my 'go to' media if I need help!
Damn , that bridge pop off scared the crap outta me!
These videos never get old, great job as always!
I can't play guitar, but I'm fascinated on how you fix them. Im addicted to all of your videos. Binge watched them all! LOL
RalphMalf me TOO! I own a few and doodle around, but I find the craftsmanship of a luthier fascinating. I want to learn to do this kind of stuff as much or more than learning to play.
You should watch the violin repair videos also, very much the same only the repairs are (usually) more expensive.
RalphMalf,
I can't play either....But because of people like Dan who are taking the time to share their guitar skills, I bought a cheap guitar and began my studies. I might even build a guitar.....Looks like fun!
You are not alone. I too am a non-guitar player...but I'm going to change that.
I've ordered a very cheap T style guitar.
We both enjoy watching someone do something well. Almost all of us enjoy doing that.
How are there 39 dislikes? This man is a pro in his profession and is as sweet a man as can be. I know there are millions of assholes out there but for sure there are 39.
Nice job, Dan!I should send you my HD-28L ... Martin does inadequate work on these types of things, then tells me to send it out to a local guy! Who did the trick!
if you were a little closer I'd only use you, Some of these clots who claim to be Luthiers or guitar repair shops, should hang their heads in shame. Ya'll know who I mean
i swear your videos are becoming better each time a new one is released :)
Absolutely brilliant! How do you take a belly out of a flat top behind the bridge? After using steam, humidity bag, and clamps, i finally used clamps and a folded up towel, and deliberately broke the inside bracing loose, and reglued the bracing with clamps inside, while i clamped the belly flat. A bit drastic but the guitar came out fine. Lol
could watch your Instructionals for hours. ... nice guy with fantastic knowlegde!!!
Dan has that nice old soft voice just like Johnny Cash when singing
though i think i like Dan more: )
I did this once. I found a guitar in the trash that had a badly domed top and the bridge had come off. Some idiot just tried to put gorilla glue on it and it had popped off a second time. I think the guitar would have been like $150 new so they gave up. Since I had nothing to lose I sanded both sides, the bridge and the body, til it fit back on. The body of the guitar looks a little rough, but it’s been playable for 2 years now. I use it for slide since it wasn’t a good guitar to begin with. Free though.
I don't even own any masking tape, but I'm still watching
Lmao i love the start “just kiddin’” 0:27
I had a badly warped Croatian tamburitza and put the sandpaper (abrasive face up) directly on the bridge location and sanded the bridge to conform on location (w/ short wiggling strokes). I can envision a hybrid of both of our methods, sanding bridge directly on instrument just enough to remove chalk & reveal exact needed shape for your teflon piece; this would allow applying more pressure during sanding than my method.
I love to watch the skill from a master of his craft.
I could watch Dan Erlewine work all day. Master craftsman.
If Dan had been my teacher in school, I would have actually learned something! Super-valuable instruction here.
Dan, I am in total awe of your luthier skills, and how interesting you make guitar repair. I must say that in this case, however, I have to question you a little bit. You said that your customer thought the action was getting bad, leading you to discover that the bridge was lifting off. Your fix was masterfully done, but it seems to me that you did not address the larger problem, that of the guitar bellying up. Even if you re-seat the bridge, the top is still bellied up, and the action will never be as it was when the guitar was new. Wouldn't a better fix have been to glue down the bridge, and then install the JLD Bridge Doctor, (which I believe Stew-Mac sells)?
A Martin guitar is no place for a Bridge Doctor. IF the top is bellying excessively, find and fix the problem-don't slap a band aid on it.
Thank you for being willing to share your knowledge it is a big help
That guitar needed a neck set you can have more height on the saddle for more of a break angle
Dan, why didn't you clamp the top between metal blocks and flatten it down? Wouldn't it have been better to sand nothing at all?
Alot of folks don't like stew mac because of the tool prices but I must say they don't talk crap and they know alot.
This man is a national treasure.
Okay I’ll admit, you got me with the bridge pop.
Dan Erlewine is a true Luthier and a gentleman! I once wanted to contact him with a question and he was gracious and honest in his reply. What a great guy!
I had to rewind that bridge popping off part. Dan’s sense of humor is classic!
I can not believe how much I enjoy these videos......
Thanks for everything... I don't have a word to describe how much you are great... In every case... WOW!
This was so good! Tks so much! exactly the issue I am facing with an old Emperador. Bridge is way up and glue released, and the guitar face has warped slightly over time. Notes taken. Hey Im only a few years late getting here! hahaha.
Guy is a genious!
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This gentleman reminds me of my grandfather. He had a tool for every job you could imagine and was a fix it genius.
I love those videos that you from Stewart McDonald put up!!! I work on guitars myself,
but not at that level, and it's so inspiring to see how good craftsmanship it
is when you're putting hands on a guitar, and witch tools you’re using!!!
In fact, made myself copies of many of
those tools seen here!
Best Regards
Tobias Karlsson in Sweden
That bridge pop is pure gold!
It is always great to see a master at work
My first ever guitar repair job (the one that kindled my passion for this art): re-fitting the half-unglued bridge on my old SS dreadnought...
Thanks for helping us be handy with our guitars. I love my Martin had it for so many years and your videos are helping me take care of him. Great videos again thanks
Dan has that ole Johnny cash sounding voice
Light and low and soft but smooth and calm
I learn something new every time I watch a Stew Mac video, AND I thoroughly enjoy Dan's approach to his work!
you could also carefully double tape the sand paper to the guitar top and use it as your sanding block, and move the work parallel to the string direction to get a perfect matched surface ;)
I recently discovered this Chanel after having my banjo repaired. And I may give some of this a try. I ready enjoy the craftsmanship.
This man is amazing when working on guitar's
I like you. Your videos are extremely helpful and packed with good useful applicable information and the touch of humor was very tasteful. You seem like someone who would be great to work with/for.
00:29 damn,,,my heart actually pop out
I do straight up carpentry. I watch these for ideas I can transfer. Even without that, I’d still really watching a real pro do his work. It is a pleasure.
Wow, as a stew mac client on the electric guitar side... This is simply awesome for my martin that has this issue..
Thanks, Dan! I enjoy seeing these videos. All the best to you!
Thank you I'm learning a lot.
Funny bits, useful information!!!!!!!!!
You know from the start of the video ..this man knows his stuff. Thanks for sharing
I wish Dan Erlewine was my dad
Alright, I fell for the bridge flying off there for a few seconds, cause I've seen it happen in person. Well played. lol
What an amazing repair job
Do it like they fit the bridge of an arch-top. Stick the sandpaper to the top of the guitar where the bridge will go----the sanding surface is just right. Put tape around this to keep abrasive off of the guitar body..............
Ok, so one thing I notice in every guitar bridge glue-up, is that its always a Martin. I mean, are the bridges from Martin's so bad? It's not a cheap guitar, so I don't understand how could a bridge be so poorly glued/made. They take pride in "attention to detail" and yet every few weeks we have a Martin bridge loose....
I had a Gibson J45 that same thing happened to. But I get what you're saying. I have never heard of it happening to a Santa Cruz or Collings, etc those higher end acoustics. Maybe it does. Hopefully someone from Dan's shop will answer here. If you email them they have always gotten back to me quickly and given expert advice and didn't charge a dime to thoroughly explain themselves in email.
Adam Wallen I don't want to bother them, is just curiosity. I have an acoustic from schecter (crafted in Indonesia) and it works just fine, and it's really cheap. I don't understand how a guitar that cost the same as a car, can have the same problem over and over
I have come across people that don't handle and store their higher end guitars properly. A plywood, import acoustic with a 3mm thick polyester finish can stand up to being left in the trunk of a car better than a guitar made out of solid woods, with something like a shellac or nitrocellulose finish.
Isaiah Knoot But would that make the bridge to pop out? I mean, is not the finish, is the glue / glue-up surface
Expensive guitars use hide glue which is intended to be removable (using steam or heat) cheap guitars may use glues that might make subsequent bridge replacement virtually impossible. Leaving a good guitar near a radiator or in a car boot on a hot day has been known to cause them to disintegrate.
It's also better that a bridge pops off than the belly is ripped out of guitar if too heavy a string gauge is used.
Wow, Dan has some great humor, and great knowledge too
I love watching you. A gentle giant in my book. A true professional.
I learned a lot from your videos! A lot of information and very useful explanation.
at 00:27 secs he freaked me out, lol.
loved the bridge joke
loose from the spruce
I could watch these videos all day. I guess I will.
Perfect lesson in working smart and not overcomplicating a repair project. Well done.
How about an actually warped top? Some jerk put 2 sets of standard strings on a 12-string acoustic (yamaha fg-411-12) and left it in an apparently outdoor workshop environment. I cleaned up the fingerboard real nice and pretty and successfully replaced the nut. After all that I noticed the top has actually warped (buckled) at the neck side of the sound hole. Wish I noticed when I bought it but here we are. Can it be fixed or is she done?
I settled with the warp on my cheap Framus students guitar from 196?. Playability is ok, and the sound also. Bridge is held down by screws. This guitar breathes the air of the early 60s and I will write my songs on it (sounds like from Lola by the kinks).
Why not just fix the belly bulge first? Some claim you can fix belly bulge by humidifying a guitar. I don't have any idea how long that would take if it even works. Time loves a hero!
I have watched a few of your videos and they are all clear, helpful and humorous! Thank you for all of your invaluable guidance.
I have one question though: when would you use this method vs. a bridge doctor vs. belly reducing cauls?
I see how the different methods work but am struggling to understand the applications and pros/cons of each.
hey Dan I have a question for you I have a 19 70 something Japanese Greco 12 string guitar it's a small 12 string what I think they call a halfknot?? the problem is is that the string tension has pulled the bridge and put a bow or a dip in front of the bridge it's broken the supports underneath it's going to have to be jacked up probably steamed and jacked up and then reglued I took it to a luthier down here in Florida he said he could do it but that was almost a year ago if I got this guitar to you would you be able to assess it and maybe fix I want a small body 12-string like this for the brightness of sound it's got a good solid body on it other than this dip right in front of the bridge any info would be good info if you have time thanks
I noticed the D-35 bridge on Elvis' guitar was coming loose. I told the security person at the museum at Graceland and his reaction basically, "So"?
1975 Fender F-55-12, Bridge pulled up in the back, not unglued, top warped. Adjustment no help.??? Trash??
Oh, man, I remember a few decades ago when my first guitar was two or three years old so I was about 17 and sleeping at night(!) at least once because that particular night the bridge of the guitar came loose ... under full tension ... and my room was at the top floor of my parents house so the ceiling was tilted inwards and the neck pointing right at the ceiling within half a string lengths reach... in the middle of the night ... crrrr crrr ... I kind of woke up ... crrrr cr ... what's that sou SMAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!! ... yep! That's how that sounds . Guitar bridge, meet Ceiling! Ceiling meet Guitar Bridge! How do you do? Fine, thank you very much ...
Then I tried to go back to sleep hahaha! :D
So,
Useless info...
So,
@@j.watson1644 Yeah, why did you reply? My story was doing great on its own, right? :D
Sir. The bracing on my Mandolin has come loose. I was able to glue and clamp through the factory electric pickup hole (that hole cut through the braces!) but its just not up to the task anymore with the string tension. Can I put a violin type strut in there under the sagging brace bar? Would a solid support between the top and bottom ruin the sound? Its not an expensive model but it looks brand new besides the sunken soundboard. Its for a new mandolin player.
Ok
Flame me all you want.
I'm an old white dude who does this for a living too.
You glue the flat, clean, sanded ebony to the warped top with good wood glue and a shitload of clamps. Helps straighten it back out.
It was flat at first. It's supposed to be flat.
Dont use stupid hide glue. It will come back off.
Good day,I have the same problem on a guitar I was given.i used epoxy resin to hot-glue.watching what you did makes me feel I messed up.what are your thoughts. Thank you.
WMG must not own 'Back In The Saddle Again" or they would eat your lunch. You'll wind up with a copyright strike.
Wish there were more people making videos like this one.
Fuck that bridge popping, I had this at full volume and now I feel like that cat from that Warner Brothers cartoon...stuck to the ceiling.
Relaxation video for guitarists
I have a swollen top and back the action has raised quite a bit. The bridge is still intact. Due to lockdown in current situation I can not find or take it to a repair shop. Is there anything I can do at home to fix that.
Ps : it's a yamaha f600 with laminate top.
How Mickey mouse is this ! The top must be steamed flat and a transverse brace added under the bridge. Sculpting weakens the bridge and does nothing to cure the cause. Pretty lame.
Only problem is the video suggested help for a 'warped top'! All we got was a sorted bridge! What about the TOP?
I know I’m not a pro luthier but I would’ve flattened the spruce. Too much guess work for my liking.
I just fixed the warp top,sanding the bridge is like putting a bucket of bondo on a fender!the top is warping and will continue to warp unless you fix it.
My bridge stayed glued and pulled the whole top up with it. The top is swollen and cracked….repairable?
It's like an ASMR put-your-mind-at-ease videos.
Now I'm ready for bed
Got an old mariachi classic w/ a twisted neck and bulging top. What to do? It was a nice guitar, once but is unplayable now.
I leaned so much by watching these videos. StewMac tools are great but expensive.
Hi, I have a question. My Taylor guitar has been sitting in the water during the Ida huracane while I was away. Is there any hope?
I so would habe loved to know this guy I woul probably be a luethier if I would have met him.
Picked up a Washburn jazz archtop electric this week. Real pretty, some crazing around the F holes...but I can see the top under the bridge is sinking down, causing the need to have the bridge adjusted as high as it will go, and even that wasn't enough till I added two felt strips under it. Not perfect, but close. You can see how this push in has warped the F holes...the inner side of them is lower than the outer side. I'd like to put a support inside the guitar..I'm not worried about losing tone with a support inside, as I still believe it's all about the pickups, frets, pots, settings, etc. (I have a solid body electric I run with the same type of strings..flatwound Thomastik heavy gauge) and the tone is perfect) (Vintage pots on it..don't remember what, but they certainly aren't producing a bright tone..an accident that I got that right) So, any ideas on how to support the top inside the guitar under the bridge? Maybe even over a period of time get it moving up about 3/8's of an inch?
I had same issue. I was contemplating the same solution, a simple wedge type brace. It would still be a hollow body but just not as hollow as it once was. I found a brace had come unglued and glue and clamp brought the top right back up but stringing the guitar pushed the bridge back down again about 1/8 inch
Loved that bridge popping off haha cool video, thankyou sir.
Thank you. I would have never thaught of this
If when a bridge is atiched to a. Guitar i think it would be better to have along with glue holding it why not have bolts holding it too
double adhesive tape on the high spot top, then sand paper, use the high spot to sand the bridge, badda big badda boom
What is this some sort of wizardry with that bridge trick? Haha good stuff man