WARNING HWH RV Owners Your HWH Hydraulic Pump Motor Brushes Are About To Fail, Lets Fix it RAP91244
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In this video you will learn how the remove your HWH Hydraulic Pump Motor RAP91244 from your RV / MotorHome Inspect the carbon brushes and replace them with new ones. Then reinstall and test. Don't get stuck with your slides out and they wont retract.
Motor Part Numbers RAP91244 RAP51641 AP31771
Winnebago Part #: 144226-26-702
Parker Corp Motor F000MM0808 643146 165MAS32-ZNN-ZNN-ZH-35-00-Y
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THIS MAY WORK? BUT I HAVE NOT CONFIRM THIS YET
NEW RV MOTORHOME LEVELING PUMP MOTOR 1330185 MH08053 P33939
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1 Brush option from a subscriber start with this brush
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Import Direct Ignition Starter Brush Set - 31-0423 Part number 31-0423
Here is what he did:
Original thickness 0.267 needs to be 0.197 removed 0.070 from face opposite shunt
Original width 0.620 needs to be 0.468 removed 0.076 from each side
Original length 0.872 needs to be 0.480 removed 0.392 from commutator end.
with file or sand paper on glass
This work was performed on a 2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J RV
Note the bush size you need is 5mmx12mmx12mm most starter motor rebuild shops should have these if you come across a part number for them please let me know what it is.
Tip from one of my subscribers
Kevin, thank you for your phone number. I wanted share my experience with the Lippert 167576 motor. It was an exact fit physical dimensions and replaced the Parker motor on my 05 Winnebago Adventurer 35A, Workhorse W24 chassis HWH 325 hydraulic system. The only difference was the need to add a ground wire from the motor terminal to the frame. The plus+ 12vdc wire connects to the "white marked" terminal for the correct rotation. I installed today and it's quiet and smooth. My Parker motor is now my spare. The Lippert 167576 cost $395 on ebay and Amazon, I bought the ground wire at ORiellys for 9 bucks. Thank you for all you UA-cam videos, I'm totally impressed.
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My first Kevin Caudill video. I am a Certified RV Technician, have worked on RVs for years, and have watched hundreds of videos on, you name it. This is one of the best. And you did it one-handed. It is hard to find someone who understands the control side of an RV slide and leveler hydraulic system. Do one on how the hydraulic system gets its pressure, circular diagrams of fluid, and wiring schematics? You are impressive. I have a 2002 Journey with HWH leveling and slide system, and I've noticed difficulty using it recently. I will be checking out my motor this winter. Again, thanks.
I checked out your LIKED channels and play list I see we think very much alike reach out to me I would like to pick you brain further my cell is 606--875-0125
my email is kc5210@gmail.com
First of all, thank you! It was actually fun to see you go through all your thinking and thoughts. One suggestion, when you are screwing something in or out, edit the time instead of making us watch. In other words there are things that you can speed up because we dont need to wait around watching things get screwed in or out.
Please don't let that suggestion make you think I wasn't very appreciative of all that you did. It was very helpful!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching I need to upgrade my video editor most is all done on the phone, kind of quick and dirty.
@@ktoutdoor- don’t worry about your editing. Too many channels skip stuff because it’s something they know how to do. Beginners need to see.
Kevin, your are becoming a legend in my neck of the woods. Your video takes some of the sting out of working on electric motors. They can be very frustrating. Thanks again for taking the time to make these great education vids for all of us DIY'rs.
Thank you for the kind words I'm not a professional by no means but I injoy the challenge of over coming problems weather i know what doing or not..lol
I got to personality meet the legend seeing he a asnd his lovely wife were 2 spot away , got an answer and fix to a tranny issue I had . He has saved me so much money showing me the way. I braved my transmission harness replace job because Kevin showed me the way.👍🖖
Kevin, even though it's 1year old, I watched your entire video!
The slide/jack motor on my 2002 Horizon stopped working right after I extended both rooms! It has the HWH 310 series, two room system.
It wasn't the motor brushes, they were ok. The ground brush holder was not making connection to the motor case ground!
The Phillips screw that fastens the brush holder to the motor rear plate would not unscrew!
I had to drill a new hole and put in a new screw. It now works!
Your video gave me enough info to remove the motor!
Thanks!
Thank you for contributing I'm sure your repair will help others, have a blessed day my friend.
Great Job.. You made it look easy. This Lippert motor is now around $2,200 was the quote I got from 2 RV repair shops here in Northern California. I already had suspected my brushes, but now I know it should be possible to find them. Thanks for this great video. You Are The Man!
Thanks for watching
Hillbillymark here from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 thank you for your time and making sense of the whole ordeal. Its a self made trade as there are hardly any professional trades people anymore. Keep.up the great work
Kevin,
Another classic. Just think. 25 years from now someone will be watching these to fix their issues.
And until then we will!
Great vid as usual.
Bruce
Yes that is kind of cool to think that my videos could be helping people long after I'm gone
How did you get so much clearance under RV ? My slide out can only work with engine off and key in accessory position (battery only).
The w24 has 22.5 tires that helps
I was looking for the hyrdro brake video and saw this one .
Oh no , with 99k plus , looks like after I get my brakes fixed. It’s back underneath the boat to pull this motor. Thanks Kevin for the preemptive strike..
Always something. You’re the man.
Like we say "Its always something"
Thank you for your excellent videos they have been a major help and repairs on my 05, 38J just rolled over90 Thousand miles, And awesome resource and of course has saved me a ton of money on repairs and upgrades as I do all my homework, My pump has never been touched so this is the next on the list I just ordered a back up I have on our next trip in a few days thanks again
Glad you have found my videos helpful. If you have any questions my cell phone number is 606-875-0125 just text me.
Kevin, you have a new friend here, Im coming back from my worst vacation ever...My slide out were not working great until they did not work at all, with wife and 2 teen on board, it was not great to travel and sleep into our 2006 Magellan 38E RV. That was until my cluster stopped working while I was driving... To finally starts again 45min from home with error code... Thats being said, thank you very much Kevin for sharing your knowledge with us. I do appreciate very much 👍
If I can be of any help call or text my cell 606-875-0125 Kevin
Hi Kevin, AWESOME video!!! I’m dealing with a new to me RV (2006) with HWH leveling and a slide. So far the slide works great! But I haven’t been able to determine if the HWH system is faulty. or if it’s operator error. Mine is definitely in the age range to be needing this.
Very informative. Thank you for posting. My brothers RV has the same exact motor with the same problem.
Let me know how his repair goes
Another awesome video, Kevin. One of your best. I just had to watch the whole thing, considering I went through this exact process when my motor's brushes wore completely out, leaving our bedroom slide out. I tried to get brushes. HWH doesn't sell them. The electric motor repair place couldn't find some either. I had to buy a new motor from HWH. $320 as I recall. Same motor number as yours from the pics I took. Watching the video is one thing. Replacing the motor yourself is another. Nice job!
Thank you its working great
Kevin,
My HWH motor went out and I was able to fix it because of your video!!!!
Thank you
Did you install new brushes?
Did you have trouble finding them?
@@ktoutdoor my brushes were pretty good. The cap was completely rusted over. I had to drill out the negative side brush plate revets as I had no continuity from the cap to the brushes. I was able to clean it up and get good contact. Very difficult getting the brushes back on the commutator! I had to find a couple of solid revets at Ace hardware and used an air chisel with a little flat part to pound the revets into place. Worked great. Ninty cent fix and I'm back on line. Hooray, thanks for your help!
Glad you found away to fix it yourself. With an RV its always something.
Great video, Kevin. On our W22 RV the slide outs are rack & pinion driven by an electric motor but I just had to watch the whole video. 👍
Then you go to the top of the class thanks for watching the whole thing... very impressive.
Another awesome video Kevin. Keep doing them please.
More to come stay tuned
Need to add a ground to the hwh motor first. We had our motor quit on our Jack's and slids. New motor has a lug for the ground
Great vid !!!!!!! Thank you 🙏. Love the fine details !!!!!!! God bless !!!!!
wow! thank you! I appreciate the lesson! Blessings!
Thanks for watching
Thoroughly helpful. Thanks you.
Pretty sweet work Kevin !! Thx for sharing!
Scott
Another great video.
I would have V cut the plastic cup... No overlap.
No gasoline for cleaning... Kerosene or parts cleaner.
Yes the v cut entered my mind as I was pulling it off but I was to far commeted . Yes kerosene would have been more better...
Tanks your tutorials
Your very welcome Nancy have a blessed day.
Thanks for. 😐☺
I'm experiencing the same challenge in terms of locating a replacement motor for my 1999 Winnebago Chieftain. Kevin, I did hear you say "Stewards" of Indiana. Is there another recommended course of action someone can recommend to locate a replacement pump?
Give me a call tomorrow or text , my cell 606-875-0125 Kevin
I just talked to a fellow last week thats in the same boat I had him take his motor to a local electric starter electric motor rebuilder and they was able to put brushes in it for him i think he said they charged him $100 cause more or less this is just a car starter
Kevin, thank you for this video, it was helpful in repairing my motor. I was successful in doing so but also purchased a new motor "Lippert 167576" Bi-directional" with same physical spec. There will be a need to check rotation of the Lippert. In your video I noticed, and it appeared the rotation was counter-clockwise looking at the shaft, can you confirm that? Sometimes it's difficult to be confident in what we're seeing.
Bob give me a call or text 606-875-0125 I cant find a cross on the Lippert 167576 to the HWH RAP91244 I fear I seam to remember someone telling me the bolt up pattern was slightly different between the two.
I just orderewd the brush set should be in around the 13th hopefully I can find someone locally to solder onto old housing I appreciate the video
Let me know how it turns out or if you have any questions my cell phone number is 606-875-0125 Kevin
@@ktoutdoor I got it back from the shop and it still didnt work took it apart and checked brushes everything looks good ck for resistance and everything ck good shop says it has to be bad armature ordered new one from HWH 469.10 should be here sat or monday
Thanks for the update, sorry to hear you had a bad armature. Let me know how the new motor works I have heard the rooms may come in faster with new style motor.?
Did you notice better performance from the slides after the fix was in place?
No difference in speed for me on just the brush change, but I caught it early. But I have heard from people that have installed a new motor better performance...
@@ktoutdoor Thank you. I followed your video and did mine as part of routine maintenance. I'm glad I did! They too were shot but I replaced with a new motor and did not feel an improvement. Peace of mind offsets performance in this case. Ours is a Power Gear so the motor was only $125.
What this taught me is don't buy 1 w a slider.
I did get 17 years of use out of the slide before this happened so I call that a fare trade. With a RV its always something... you just learn to fix things and move on down the road. lol
I hope you didn't get your shirt stained. Hold on.
Our HWH hydraulic system went out and the mechanic can’t find one to replace it…we have an Itasca Sunflyer 1999 and they don’t make this anymore?
Give me a call 606-875-0125 Kevin
Hey kevin, thank you for the fantastic video. I have 2004 Itasca Suncruiser 33V with two slides and my front slide doesn't always move on the first press of the switch. I have to rock the switch several times to get her moving. Rear slide and jacks all work fine. I'd like to try this repair first before I take it to a dealer, but I am not comfortable rebuilding the motor. Can you tell me how to identify which HWH system I have so I get the right motor? I see the part numbers you have listed but I don't want to order one willy nilly without knowing for sure lol. I have the W20 Workhorse Chasis. Slides and jacks are all HWH, just not sure which model. Thank you!
Locate the pump and the plexi glass cover your model number should be to the side of the clear cover on the aluminum housing. you might also swap the rear slide switch with the one in the front they can go bad also.
@@ktoutdoor I thought about the switch but the motor does activate when I press the front slide. There is definitely a motor running, but the front slide doesn't start to move until you rock that switch back and forth several times
@@drewstyring1446 Then I would check out the solenoid that engages the motor. or look for a loose wire or a poor ground
@@ktoutdoor That makes more sense to me too. If the pump was failing I'd think it would affect all systems, unless I am missing something haha
@@drewstyring1446 True then maybe a bad relay on the board if your good with a solder gun you can replace them yourself
Can a guy use denatured alcohol to clean the windings instead of the electronics cleaner and do you think a guy could use a soldering iron on brushes?
Yes to the denatured alcohol and I think solder will work as long as the motor don't get over 400 degrees then melting the solder. That is why silver solder is used its melting point is around 1200 degrees call me if you have any questions 606-875-0125 Kevin
I NEED HELP WITH MY HWH RESERVOIR CAP! Please assist if you know.
I got it loose then now I’m turning it and it just turns and turns. Can’t get it off 🤷🏻♀️
I need to add fluid
Text me a picture of your cap at 606-875-0125 Kevin
Kevin, I don't know how to find you to ask this question.
How do I stop throttle surge on my Onan 4000 Cummins generator?
Call or text my cell 606-875-0125 Kevin
@@ktoutdoor thanks
You're going to hate me. Nobody has this motor in stock. What's the part number of the Chinese one? China also makes my Samsung smartphone. Thank you
Paul call or text my cell phone 606-875-0125 Kevin
Would 5*11*16 work? It's one mm shy of 12. Edit: I can get 6*12*16 also, which set would you go with?
1 Brush option from a subscriber start with this brush
www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/import-direct-ignition/alternators---starters/starter-brush/f290dc8fb6aa/import-direct-ignition-starter-brush-set/odi0/310423
Import Direct Ignition Starter Brush Set - 31-0423 Part number 31-0423
Here is what he did:
Original thickness 0.267 needs to be 0.197 removed 0.070 from face opposite shunt
Original width 0.620 needs to be 0.468 removed 0.076 from each side
Original length 0.872 needs to be 0.480 removed 0.392 from commutator end.
with file or sand paper on glass
Very nice detail👍 Thanks
Glad you liked it
Another GREAT video .
Thanks for watching Buddy have a blessed day
Big thank you for doing this. I am tired of RV shops eating up my wallet.
Your very welcome