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2023 KTM 1290 SUPER DUKE R First Ride Review // TAKE MY MONEY
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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Never ridden a KTM but just by the sound of your excitement it’s a must test ride! Thanks for taking us along 🤘🏼
I’m the former owner of two gen 3, standard and the Evo : only got one issue with latter, due to a valve that had to be replaced. Cumulated, I put 32000 km on them and that was the only issue I got. I’m posting that because I know rumours out there say Ktm is not reliable. It may be less reliable than Japanese brands but, statistically, that would mean having 10 bikes out of 100 that have issues instead of 3. Nevertheless, the way the Superduke made me fell is, by now unparalleled. I only moved away from her due to age and to the huge mileage I was doing, needed a more sport touring oriented bike. Thanks ✌️
Problems start after 50-60K km
Just trade it in when the warranty is out.
wow, I love you take it down the single track ( my favourite), there were bits that were quite sensual... best review of a bike I have ever seen, keep it up.
The 1290 does concern me. If we have too many of them in the world accelerating at the same time then we will end up with 23hrs days as the world spins quicker 😮 🤣🤣🤣
But that’s damned dangerous!
Ace review. I was on the same route +/- last weekend. Love it.
I had my 1st ktm crosser in 1982, it was a 125 lc I still love em now my 990 sdr is amazing . My 990 s my 9 th ktm! ❤
Fun review Kate, thank you. Btw, spectacular area you are riding in…very jealous
Awesome video Kate! Where were you riding? Incredible scenery. At 17: 15 or so, the cloud on your shoulder was a Kodak moment foe sure. Frame that one, it's a classic! Best!
Thanks Kate enjoyed that, those roads looked fantastic👍
Brilliant ride. Where is that amazing road? the clouds were awesome too. Thanks Kate, great job.
You summed up riding any bike towards the end. It's good for the soul. Amen. 👍
Best therapy on the planet
Way to go Kate! Raced KTM's in the 70's (motocross). Now at 73yo, ride an RC390. Most fun you can have under 100 mph. The new 1390 has adjustable wheelie control! 😊
Never tried a SDR, might have to change that up after watching this. Great video as always Kate!
I’m more amazed how you kept your speedo showing 63 or under , can’t seem to do that on mine 😁
I know some people have stories of problems they’ve experienced, but I’m on my 2nd superduke now,and have had no problems at all, love love love mine , and can’t wait for the Rumoured 1390 gen4
😁👌👍🏼
Watched this upload twice, usually only do that with BVG videos! Loved it 👍🏻😊
No way, big compliments!
Wonderful, this test ride with all your comments
🏆🫶💪👏👏!!!
I own a 2015 1290 Super Duke R too, never had a problem with this bike during the 8 years. It‘s so phantastic, absolutely addictive !!!
I‘m thinking about an upgrade to the 2023-evo-version … 🤔😍 …
Best greetings from Germany and stay healthy
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Do you know, Kate is quickly becoming my go to bike vlogger, good rider, good content, good detail, funny, Keep up the good work Kate.
Aww I appreciate that!!
Saying used to go “never enough power” that’s until you ride a superduke! Just bought the evo models last month... I am in love with this bike 🏍
What a bike ! Have wanted one of those for sometime, nice to see it ridden well, apart from the bullying of sheep of course :) It would leave my Blackbird standing, but then mine is 24 years old now ! Dream on :)
Someone got a new sub this morning! Thanks for the vid.
Yay thank you!
I ❤ my KTM 1290SDR. I’ve had a lot of bikes but this is on a different level. There’s a lot of KTM hatred out there but they offer the best riding experience in each segment. If KTM had doubts about the reliability of the 1290 then they wouldn’t be giving a 4year warranty. Most of the negative comments on here are from people who couldn’t dare to wish to owning one of these bikes.
I had a gen 1 2016 special edition from brand new my first ever new bike, any way got t-boned by a BMW year before last, taken ages to get better with hospital , titanium rods etc, anyway bought a 2015 gen 1 1290 Super Duke R with full Boddis exhaust and mopped to over 190bhp, basically a track bike for the road had new front discs and Brembo sintered pads on , plus it came with full service new tyres battery and chain and sprockets, waiting until spring to ride it, but had to buy it when I did as it was too good an opertunity to miss, just love the looks of the gen 1 SDR. Great vid btw, most enjoyable. 👍👍👍👍👍
Love the videos. I got a super duke evo 2023. Love it so far. Awesome bike. Has bucket loads of torque. But handles so well and does everything else well too.
Oh man, they're epic bikes aren't they
@@UsernameKate they certainly are. So good.
Kate just spat my tea out 😂got your video on and in and out! Just sat down with cuppa and you said (all the fun is low down! That’s where I have it) teas gone everywhere 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh bloody hell, my innocent mind actually didn't think of that 😭😭😭
@@UsernameKate lol 😂 bless you x
Even after having problem with almost every KTM I’ve owned (six in the last ten years) I purchased a 2022 SD-R EVO, before I could get it out of the dealership parking lot it threw a code and the electronic suspension stopped working. Once that was fixed I made it just over 500 miles and it threw another code and went into “limp home mode”, dealer found three random codes; ABS fault, couldn’t communicate with the remote key, and one engine sensor. Got the bike back and it made it exactly 64 miles before it threw mother code and went into limp home mode. I decided to cut my losses and got rid of it. (PS: Just this weekend I found out the KTM dealership still had the bike, seems every time someone takes it for a test ride it throws a new handful of codes. KTM builds a fabulous engine, and the manually adjustable suspension is just magic, but their electronics are utter crap.
I'm on my second SD, the first being a gen 2. I gave the first one up very shortly due to a persistent issue and here I am back again. This newer model has had problems from the start too but it's such a joy to ride and, I ride daily here in southern California. I'll hang on while I can 'cuz I've figured out I'm just a a fool for love . . . a romantic at heart. If we part I expect it will feel a good bit like characters do in the film, "The Way We Were." Look it up some day. It will make you hurt but sometimes one can be glad for the sweetness of the overall experience.
Another great video Kate! Could you add some details of your routes in the description as I also enjoy the riding locations & would love to pop over from Yorkshire to ride them. I had a Superduke Gen3 & when the warranty was ending traded it for new Tuono V4 RR as the difference was only a couple of £K. With both bikes I've concluded they are too much for the road & leave you a little dissatisfied (if thats the right term?). I think in the future I'll be stepping down a peg or two to something like the Street Triple. The refinement of the smaller bike at lower speed limits is also much more pleasant.
I've got the 390 duke , I've had it nearly 3 years, I never thought I'd enjoy a ktm after so many other bikes. Its been the best. The mid range is beautiful and a rush, so I can only imagine how insane the 1290 is. Jeez. 😅
I owned a 390 duke for 6 years in the UK and loved it. I have a new hornet now but to be honest the 390 is all you need on B roads if you ride within the law(ish) Bikes like the 1290 are expensive and kind of pointless in the UK really. I do find the Hornet a step up from the 390 but both are a blast to ride for 10k less than a Superduke and you're a bit more likely to keep your licence on a smaller bike. If I was you I'd upgrade to a 790 it'll be almost as much fun but nowhere near the cost
Where is this looks fabulous , great video
Great video. The torque is addictive. If you're an average rider like myself you can certainly show a few sportsbikes up on track.
Ive had one for two years and its an immense machine - mental yes - but an awesome smiling / giggling machine
Awesome ride
I traded up from a 990 almost 2 months ago and absolutely love my 1290.. the 4 year warranty helps as a safeguard, too.. It's all about that torque.. you could spin the earth backward 😂 its just the best of everything ...
Rumour has it its against the law for more than one in a group as it my change the earths rotation
@UsernameKate it wouldn't surprise me, its a fair challenge... now where did the summer go ? Looks like it's enduro fun months ahead now... 😎 Well until this rain pauses at least
I love mine. One of, if not the best bike I've ever ridden. You can adjust those bars closer or further away, by the way. It could make a real difference for you.
Torque is IT Kate, always. As a road rider, very high bhp just ain't useable... safely or legally 😁😁 but torque is IT and most useful tool for day to day road riding !
Buying mine soon, lovely.
I bought a brand new gen 2 1290 Super Duke R in 2018. I bought a load of power parts for it and it totalled £17.5k. It did give lots of joy.
I have ridden the gen 3 bike and it is a step up from the gen 2. Not sure I like the feel or the look of the gen 3 over the gen 2 though. The gen 2 felt awesome to ride even though the gen 3 was a better bike.
It makes sense to me anyway 😂
I bought a 2023 SAS in June, I have not got off of it yet without a grin on my face, its a beast....
Great as always Kate. With a new model round the corner, I couldn't buy a new 1290.
Hey Kate, been watching and enjoying your vids lately! I would like to ask what is your opinion on the latest 1390 SDR Evo vs M1000R vs SF V4S. I'm coming from a 21 MT-09 SP and I would like to upgrade to something more fierce, refined, fun.. also at the same time would like it to keep it's resale value. The BMW sort of seems to tick the boxes, but it seems to have these terrible bar vibrations.. makes the mirrors unusable etc.. the steering dampener is weak - would need to be swapped out asap (I am planning on test riding one once the snows are gone.. so maybe in a few weeks) and lastly the BMW definitely has the best app. So I'm sort of looking for an all rounder.. The Ducati seems to be the most refined/desireable, but it lacks a fuel gauge and cruise control.. at that high end price range the BMW's vibrations and the Ducatis faults sort of are unacceptable in my point of view. That leaves the new KTM, I'm worried about it's resale value though and is it actually rideable on the streets? KTM offers only 2+2 of extra warranty aswell :D at first I was so sure of it. Even though it has loads of more torque and "fun", would I notice the lack of the 10+ bhp which the BMW and the Duc have? Been pondering on this for months now, I can't make up my mind. Every comment is appreciated :).
Love your reviews!! And your accent and sayings make me smile!! Question - if you were offered the keys to a new Super Duke 1290 R EVO or a new Speed Triple 1200 RS, which would you want and why??
the 1290 has a special place in my heart, its just insane
I'd NEVER buy another KTM. Mine had constant problems. Was in the shop more than on the road.
Was it an 890?
Something very strange with KTM UK because here in Belgium i only read&hear positive stories.
I am on my second 1290 SA S and after 26000 km in total no problems so far.
You can find stories like this for any manufacturer, Ducati, BMW, Honda, Kawasaki, Harley Davidson. It’s unfortunate but a result of fast pace technology change and role out that means the customer can be the tester and show up fault’s the manufacturer hasn’t had time to find.
Its the same for cars.
@@hedonzx822there’s a lot of people who couldn’t afford a SDR so are very quick to slag them off
Some poeple always have problems some poeple never ever had any problems
Love it too !
Great review Kate, definitely too much for the road, thats why most of us want one! There is just something about KTM's that appeals to many!
I got one in the USA, it is a smooth savage. I love it.
Man that bike sounds good 😊
It’s so obvious that KTM have reliability issues, social media is awash with many tales that have been going on forever. When will KTM get to grips with this issue? Surely they must be aware just how damaging it is for their brand.
They remind me of the car company TVR at the turn of the century, fantastic cool cars with great raw V8 and straight 6 engines but with such shocking build quality you would have to be a brave man or women to own one. Either that or have very deep pockets and a 2nd car to drive when it was being fixed! Which was a lot.
Come on KTM, sort your quality control out and give your customers bikes they can be proud of.
Waaaaay too much fun!!!!!😊
Proper torque monster 💪😎
Just bought a the expect same bike, only done about 100 mike's on it but I absolutely love it. And £3000 off the price to boot
Used to love taking the 1290’s out for a blast! Bet thats a rite machine!! 👌🏻. Still held to the dealers for diagnostics on ktm?
Ooh, a Cow! (Hahaha!). The sheep are usually ladies only. I think you need a job on a farm really…
The KTM sounds and probably feels thrilling… exciting review as usual Kate - cheers!
I had a Gen 2 and never had a problem with it; only traded it to get something better for loads of touring, although I did the NC500 on the Gen 2 SDR - possibly what persuaded me that I needed/wanted a tourer.
Gen 3 is not as good looking, IMHO, but is a better handling bike.
I know exactly what you mean by having all that torque at your wrist. Though less, my Goldwing's 125 lb ft of torque always gets a grin out of me. That's some spectacular countryside but the left side riding would take some getting used to.
some good roads around there .. Whitewell, Dunsop Bridge, Slaidburn ...
Excellent video as usual Kate.
How did you find this bike in comparison to the MT10 ?
MT10 is a giggle inducing bike... but it's just not a Superduke! (now ask Lambchoprides the same question and you'll get the reverse answer!)
I have been a KTM owner for 10+ years on three bikes, (and lucky to have several others too). All the KTM's have broken down but they do seem to be "the one to beat" in each segment, which is why I keep coming back. Due to the reliability issues, I am contemplating a M1000R but I will probably get another KTM. That v2 torque hey Kate..
I have bad news for you on the BMW reliability front...
lol. Joker
@@caspianprince Oh dear. really?
@@mustdriveslower with the caveat that I'm just a single data point with my anecdotes, I've owned 6 BMW's from new, and I loved them all, but 4 of them were put out of action and had to be fixed under warranty. I've owned well over 30 bikes and almost none of them ever had warranty issues. Apart from both the ktms 😁 ... and I did manage to break a zzr1100 engine once on a trip back up from Cornwall...
4 BMW's since 1993 and all have had warranty recalls and part failures including 2 front brake issues. #1 master cyclinder failed - K1100RS #2 ABS pump not primed resulting loss of pressure when ABS pump kick in. The fact the ABS pump had engaged suggested I was needing to stop which didn't happen. Result, new folks please... That was an R1200GS. Have recently switched to a KTM1290SAR with 4 year warranty. All good so far, fingers crossed it continues. Finally that 1290 engine is just on another level to anything I've ever ridden, lovin the KTM.
Not my type of bike at all but still loved your video around the beautiful Trough of Bowland. 17 grand + is far to rich for me but the bike does look awesome.
Heyup Kate,great video, I've ridden those roads lots of times.I am using my 2004 fjr over the winter ,my ktm 1290 super adventure s is resting until spring ,,I'm missing it badly . In my opinion there is no such thing as a 4 cylinder bike with character ( I'm 66 and I've owned about 40 bikes ) a v twin has said character and my ktm has it in spades.Yes one doesn't need 160 bhp but it's due to this that it has sooo much torque in the mid range ( horse power is how fast you hit a wall,torque is how far you push the wall🤤) anyroad keep up the good work , maybe we will bump into each other .TommyTickle
KTM is a fun motorcycle when it's not in the workshop.
Love the way you say nauuughty, lol
Thumbs-up because somebody else says hello to cows (I literally did that when I was out two days ago and laughed to myself after).
I'm only 45 seconds in and that sound!!! 🥵
i love them
An informative and cool video; I could smell passion🥳. How this Superduke behaves in low traffic in town? Is it unrideable under 20-30 m/h like some old & big KTMs? I understand that the 1290 is enjoyable only if the revs are above 5,000, otherwise it is jerky in town. Is this true? Anyway, in general I wish more reviewers would inform us how their tested bike behaves with revs below 3000 or when riding in town in low traffic. Most tests focus on how the bike behaves in canyons or twisties; how the bike behaves when is pushed, or above the speed limit...which is wrong. Great video and scenery. Keep up🥳
I do mention its town mannerisms in the vlog but you may have missed it. Super super manageable. I didn't find it hunty or surging at all! :)
First one in my area. To see the new. 1390🎉❤
The 1290 Super Duke R has the potential to get UA-cam Age Restricted due to the powerful, full body trembling, and soul moving emotional release that it causes Moto-vloggers to go through with every ride!
would prefer my 1290 SAS Gen 3. No issues, better comfort, suspension and wind protection. Glad you enjoyed the thrill.
...and the turning signals are not integrated in the mirrow-cases
kate "how do you feel the main emphasis at each motorbike?"
wind attacks in the moment of lean angle at various speeds
I felt the same about my 890 Duke R. Nothing rides as well as a KTM in their respective segments, but the reliability kills it. I had issues literally from the first day, and had to wait almost an entire year for parts.
This is what puts me off
I have heard this so many times also I be pissed if I paid full price a few months ago and then ktm knocking thousands off the price on some models??
Never wanted one its a bike that I've not been interested in ,
You buy a bike to ride at your convenience unfortunately these bikes are not reliable enough, and you have to pay extra for some of the electronics to be turned on ,
That is an absolute rip off
I had an ‘05 990 SD and regret getting rid of it to this day.
Had a go on my mates ‘16 1290 SD and it’s a great bike but less character in my opinion.
Currently have a ‘22 890 duke gp and I’m sorry to say overall i prefer it to the SD. All the best bits handling etc at the cost of a bit of top speed which being honest I never used anyway 😂
Anecdotal I know, but a mate bought an RC8C and has literally never been able to do a single lap with it because it keeps breaking down. To be fair, KTM is sending someone out from Austria to try and see what's up, but even something uber-premium doesn't get by unscathed (I think he has number 41 or something...don't quote me on that though).
just subscribed 100k soon keep going. oh and you dont complain brakes not good enough either :) treat yourself and buy one you only live once
Thank you 🙌
your welcome
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I have the 390 Duke and after owning it I really only want a KTM when I go up. Their special.
I have done twice the mileage on my Gen2 Black edition than I did on my BMW S1000r and I am mainly a weekend rider. I can;t stay off the thing
Best thing about the power on this bike is an rs 6 in my mirrors disappearing 😂
Lovely, appropriate review. So pleasing. Beautiful location. Where?
Slaidburn to Bentham in the Trough of Bowland :)
Could you share the locations of this trip? The views are stunning.
KATES IN LURRVVE ME THINKS!! 😁😁 I think the KTM really got under your skin and into your heart. What an awesome bike, a fantastic review, and what truly beautiful roads you were riding. I really need to get back up north, as you have some of the best scenery and roads.
Ive wanted one these for years well I thought I did untill I saw the bike then the price 20000 I said I will just keep the MT-10 it might be a better bike but not that much better I think the Tuono Factory maybe
The best suspension (WP) setup I’ve ridden. Great engine, no heat felt, tall gearing, very comfy ergos, smooth engine & nice handling. I just can’t get past the looks & build quality.
So your saying bad build quality and and ugly?
I’ve literally JUST bought an ex-demo of this from my local bike shop, kitted out with the full titanium Akrapovic system and map…it’s absolute brutality to your eardrums! Have to wait two weeks to pick her up 😢
stoppppppppppppppppppppppppp, SO JEALOUS
Spare helmet , sheep as pillion comes to mind Kate 🤪🤣🤣, nice bike but I’m too old to ride or afford one .
Too many problems with KTM for my liking (Dealer) support warranty issues I could go on one day. Hopefully they rectify these issues and then maybe I will consider one.
I rode one of these a couple of years ago. Loved it but felt if I had bought one I would have lost my license by mid morning tea break and if not my life by midday. Too fast for the roads to properly use and enjoy. Great bike though. Every biker should ride one at some point.
I test rode this for 2hrs, its amazing. I got so close to buying one,,,after much research.......it breaks a lot, KTM service is bloody awful and repairs are very expensive. I joined the facebook page, saying i was looking for one, so many people messaged trying to sell. Theres a reason for this. Look how many are on ebay, etc.....i bought an MT-10.... what a bike....dont thint i dont love the Superduke, i do, but its a flawed genius.
beautiful scenery. Thanks for the ride.
Three years owning a gen3 with 16,000 miles now on it still love it and what would you replace it with?
another one!
I know you really liked the BMW M1000r. If you could pick between the M and the Super, which would you get? Wonderful video, beautiful ride. ❤
Superduke for sure. Its the torque and vtwin that clench it! And I'd come away with change 🤣
Wow!! OK, one more please... if you had a 890 duke r, would you trade it for the Superduke? You rock!@@UsernameKate
I think I would you know!!!!
The super duke gt is the tempting proposition for me. I couldn't have it as an only bike though, and that's when things start to get pricy 😬
I have the Gen2 GT and it’s ace. Nearly all the performance but more comfortable, better protection from weather and overall a better bike. Looks just as cool but the practicality is awesome.
Hi Kate I love the super duke I never ridden one I ride a 1290 adv 2022 with full tech pack and that is great bike but I’m drawn to super duke but as they’ve got a deal on I’m 🤔🤔weather to or not I think riding position be a back breaker for me how did you feel on it ride safe take care
Definitely not a back breaker. See if you can test ride one! 😊 you'll love it
@@UsernameKate yes I’m taking 1290 in for second service on Monday I’ll see if I can better than sitting in show room doing nothing thanks loving the vids take care
So just thinking about those pot holed roads with the suicidal sheep, this Super Duke R or the new Transalp? which one is more suited Kate?
Provided I'm not off-roading, Superduke all day!
I think you need to get one.
Ok 👏🎉👍 Kate
Got my gen 3 2 months before they dropped price bothered? NO! Best bike I’ve ever owned 57 now started riding age 11 everyone needs to ride this bike
Kate luv ya, however the Duke or S 1000R and which bike are you more upright on?
Duke all day long. And I'd say more upright on the Duke.
@@UsernameKate thanks xxx
So Kate, if money wasn't an issue, what would be your choice MT-10 SP or SD 1290 R?
SDR :)
It's a great bike for sure, so glad you liked it, if people are worried about price, just buy a second hand one, they are monsters. 20 years ago we all lived at full throttle, do that now and you'll be dead....If you disagree, crack on, I hope you have a good time.
Kate have you had a chance to ride a Yamaha Vmax 1700, if so what are your thoughts!.
I had one for 4 years, model 2009, absolutely brutal amazing bike, the acceleration and how it handles even though it is a tank when not moving, the bad stuff about the bike is that it drinks fuel like a thirsty mthafaka, and good luck trying to move it around in parking areas and garage, crazy torque low and mid but almost no power higher rpm.
Yo Kate! If you had to choose between the KTM 1290/1390 Super Duke R and the Bmw M 1000 R, which would you choose? :)
Definitely SD... Either 1290 or 1390, I'm not fussy!
@@UsernameKate What is the reason for your choice of Super Duke? Could you elaborate a bit more? I'm going to buy a new motorcycle.
I have tried Super Duke 1390, Bmw M1000R, Mv Agusta Brutale 1000RR, Kawasaki ZH2 and Ducati Streetfighter V4S. I'm still very doubtful 🤔🤔
I just love the torque of the SD. It's just the feeling I get when I ride it. I go off feeling and happiness levels. Which put the biggest smile on your face?
I used to have a GREAT KTM then I went Ducati but I want a Super Duke next.
I love everything about this bike except the orange display on the dash, can it be changed in the settings?
It can be changed to a white background 😊
@@UsernameKate Ahh, cheers kate 👍