Forgot to mention the most obvious reason why it outsells it 10 to 1: reliability and longevity. People dont like to keep repairing and keep spending extra money to fix volkswagens thats why more people buy Corollas.
juan tafoya man toyota is very simple this is a comercial car is good is reliable but is a car only for drive, vw golf is more sofisticated, is comercial too but you feel more premium design and caracteristics, you enjoy more drive a golf and thats the true, vw golf is a exelent car why the people say other things is a world respected car because is good car
Alexander11080 The 2015 Golf sucks! Also, the Toyota's are by far sold more world wide. Also, those Golfs are A LOT more expensive than the Corrola's. Nearly all Golfs are equipped with an 90 or 110HP engine. Also, those Golfs are MANUAL! The Corolla is cheaper and has much more performance with the guaranteed reliability. The Golf only wins in exterior appearance. The rest, the Golf loses miserably.
As a Golf owner and someone who drives Corollas daily for a rental car company, I can say that the Golf is a light years more enjoyable and better put together car than the Corolla. However, I will say that since my company has gotten a lot more of the current gen Corolla (as reviewed here) and not the older model, I will say that its way better than it used to be. Still not as good as Golf, but I would dare say its better than the Civic and maybe even the Focus.
The corolla is an economy car dressed to look like a premium car. The golf is a premium car dressed to look like an economy car. I bought a Golf and drove every single competitor except the lancer. It was almost a 3 way tie between the Mazda3, Focus and Golf. The deal breaker on the Focus was unreliability, MyFordTouch, and cramped interior. The Mazda3 dealbreaker was the build quality glitches, cramped rear seat, and unrefined engines and noise. The Golf was about 3 grand more than a Mazda3 but it's so worth it. I feel like I'm driving a C class competitor.
Brandon Friesen This is probably one of the most illogical comments I've read. To tell the truth the VW Golf has the unreliability of the Ford and the "build quality glitches" of the Mazda (I don't know what it means as many surveys and statistics have shown Mazda is one of the most reliable auto brands, unlike VW and Ford). Also the Golf, just a generic yet adequate FF hatch back, can never be a C class competitor since even the much more premium Audi A3 or A4 can't match the benz.
averagejoe Smh...I said it FEELS like a c class competitor. I didn't say it was, I said it FEELS like it because of the interior quality. And look at owner satisfaction, VW is the 3rd highest auto maker with the best customer satisfaction, so if they were super unreliable, people obviously wouldn't be satisfied. And no my comment wasn't illogical. The corolla is a boring car, styled to look exciting. The golf is a premium car that looks like every other hatcback on the road. And yes Mazda has quality glitches. I work for them and they have major build quality issues on the exterior.
Enjoy the electrical problems and faulty mechanicals of your VW. Been there, done that when I was 21. Now that I'm 30 I realize what shit VW cars are. Just because they FEEL great means nothing. Having purchased a brand new VW Rabbit in 2008, and a 2016 Corolla last March, I can say without any doubt that yes, the Toyota feels far cheaper. But you know what- it hasn't been a shop whore like my VW was. Do you have any idea how inconvenient getting your car towed an hour away to the nearest dealership can be?!
My first car was a 93 Camry LE. I adored that car right up until the day I sold it off and when I did I sold it with not a single issue at all mechanically after more than 180,000 miles on the clock. An absolutely phenomenal car. This is why people buy Corollas and Camrys. And I can't say I blame them. Hell, if I had a wife and a couple kids and weren't in my lower twenties and single, I'd consider a Camry or Accord first. They're reliable and rock solid. That said, I own a 2015 GTI. And I completely agree with this video (considering the GTI is obviously very similar to the Golf). I tried everything in the range. The Focus ST, the Mazdaspeed 3, the Civic Si, the WRX, and a few others. Some cars were better in some respects. The WRX was just a joy to drive. An absolute thrill. The Focus ST was very taught with a competitive price to performance. The Civic Si had one of the best shifters I've ever tried and it's a Honda so it's bulletproof. The Mazdaspeed was a hoot as well. But when you step back and take a look at the whole package, I drove home in the GTI. As an entire package, there's a lot on offer from interior build to daily comfort to practicality etc. Am I worried it won't be as reliable as a Toyota or a Honda? Oh yeah... I am... there's a likelihood it'll give me more problems than either of those brands. But that's the trade off when buying a car. They all have strengths and weakness. At the end of the day, be smart. Buy what makes you happy and take the good with the bad.
If I wanted an A to B mover that had decent styling and simple reliability, then I'd choose the Corolla. If I wanted a more premium experience, fun-to-drive characteristics, and a more advanced car, I'd choose the Golf.
I own 2015 Golf TSI 1.8 L and the golf has the best suspension of any new car in that price range. It is very comfortable, even in rough roads. It is much better quality than the other cars we test drove like Corolla, Mazda 3 and Mazda 3 hatchback, Dodge Dart, and Ford Focus hatchback (base). Of all cars, the Mazda you feel every bump with and the Focus was noisy, cheap, and very slow (then again it was the cheapest of all being base). In my opinion the Corolla was the ugliest of all. S model looks sporty, but its way too plastic, flat, and cheap looking on inside. It was a very hard decision for me because I liked all of these cars, but Im more than glad I went with the golf. The handling is second to none. The only annoying part of the Golf is the turbo lag if you're trying to accelerate fast, but once the RPMs reach around 2000, it accelerates very quick. Our final decision was between manual 2015 Dodge Dart and Golf Auto 5 door TSi. I do not regret my decision. Very fun, elegant, comfortable car. Golf also won Motor Trend's 2015 car of the year so thats another point to look at. The milage you get in the golf really depends on how you drive it. Its really hard to keep it off sport mode because it's just such a fun car to drive. When I don't push the car in the city I average about 31/32mpg which is more than it is said to get... I rarely get this milage because I like to accelerate quick and like to keep the car in manual mode or sport mode. When it is in sport mode I usually get from 25-27. On the highway it is great and have gotten it up to 44 mpg. Overall, Id recommend this car to anyone. Go for a test drive.
what quality????? are you talkling about the roof falling down? the switches that deteriorate and look awful? the dashboards main screen cant beseen in strong daylight? lol////
Here in Eu its quite the opposite .100 Golfs sold per one corolla, probably even more. Fom reading the comments I took that VW customer and repair services in th US are poor, but thats not the cars fault....Golf simply IS the better car...
Why are you comparing a $23k car to a $32k car, the nearly $10k difference in price makes these cars incomparable both in terms of the types of buyers and how good they are.
Slimecrazy234 As mentioned in the video, $32,000 is a fully loaded TDI model. We had the 1.8 TSI model for evaluation. As tested, these two cars were separated by roughly $2,000
AutoGuide.com The problem for the Golf is depreciation. According to Edmunds, after 5 years the Corolla will depreciate about $8000 and the Golf $10000. So the 5-year cost of ownership is at least $4,000 less for the Corolla. The direct injection and turbocharging in the Golf makes it fun to drive, but they are reliability concerns over the long-term. That said, the Corolla's engine is indeed getting very old and I hope they roll out new ones next generation.
TheEquationSlayer That old Toyota engine is good for 300,000 miles. Just keep the oil and radiator fluid clean and the spark plugs changed. Even the belts hoses water and fuel pump will go 300,000. I have done it so many times. I have PURCHASED Corollas at 200,000 miles and run them another 100k. No one wants a VW with more than 60,000 miles on it. Vw makes them to last just over 100k. Baby it you may get 140k out of one. A few lucky folks make it to over 200k but not without major problems. The Diesel Golf is far more reliable than the gas one in the real world but you pay much more money for it.
AutoGuide.com I own corolla and i got a pretty good deal i bought a fully loaded brand new 2014 corolla Type S Black on Black with mats and unto 36000 Factory warranty for 21k and i loved it there is not a single issue with this car i know its not that much fun to drive this car compare to VW but its very smooth reliable car that won't cost you a penny for next 5 years just keep the car clean and up to date on oil change tire rotations brake and fluids check my dad just sold 2005 corolla after driver 245k miles and he posted on CL and it was sold in 3 days thats the value to Toyota corolla
The Volkswagen Golf 1.8 base is a performance bargain !!!!!! Manual transmission tests 0 to 60 in 6.8 seconds quarter mile in 15 seconds... Comes with a stock turbo its a tuner's delight... just a ECU tune and you'll be making over 300+ HP and 300+ torque... all for what ?? 18k??? Plus the suspension is awesome for curvy roads !!!!!
people don't buy corollas for their sportiness and get up and go, they buy them of their reliability and good fuel economy, that's all corollas have ever been good for. if you want a sporty compact car that can get up and go, then you go for cars like the Focus ST, Civic SI or Golf GTI etc.. not a corolla.
Just got a 2016 golf tsi S and sure does have all the features i need and feels fully loaded at $22k. Make sure to get the S over the base trim. Worth the couple 1-2k!
One more example that motor journalists have absolutely no clue and will always default to sportiness and more power! In there opinion the VW is much better but, it doesn't have the sales numbers to compare. It's not just about value but needs and the carolla meet the needs of a lot of people. I must say that the auto journalists are good for a chuckle.
Aaron Walker I totally agree with you. How can you ignore 10 to 1 sales. Golf has great engine, interior and drives better. But it has serious reliability issues. We don't know about new generation and it is probably better but they won't catch up Toyota over night. I was expecting some kind of explanation about how Golf sells so little if it is so good but no chance. They just ignore their own. What a joke!!!
H0okemh0rns Yeah well, you can't ignore the market reality. People know what they know and act accordingly. If everyone got Golfs instead of Corollas, VW would sell cars good for 2 miles and then you would go get another one. And you are getting conn'ed no matter what you buy, people tend to choose the least risky one.
H0okemh0rns Please stop talking out of your arse because clearly this opinion of yours are not backed up by any reliable numbers. Here's one fact for you to digest; Toyota's corolla out sells the golf ten folds, because it's better value, better residual value, better track record in safety and reliability, better at providing affordable transporting, better engineering and better at meeting or exceeding the needs of customers. You need to recognize the placebo effect that some auto makers have, on you types, which they rely on to sell cars, most notably European ones; they are no better than the big names from Japan. It's easy to build a car when you can sell it for whatever you want, but try building a winner for decades upon decades that is cheap and they can't. There steel, aluminum, plastics, woods, leather or fabrics are no better but you've bought into the sales pitch for so long that you don't know up from down. So please, no one buys a one of the major European brands because of research, it's all based on emotions and the perceived status it implies.
Aaron Walker Golf is the best seller in Europe and one of the best sellers worldwide tough so I think it meets the needs of a lot of people... Just not Americans because they don't like hatches
Bought a Mk7 Golf TSI with the automatic and I drive 2015 Corollas everyday as part of my job with a rental car company. The Golf is a much better car all around. Unlike this review, my Golf has no problems with crappy New Jersey roads and deals with all but the deepest of potholes better than the Corolla. It also is far more quieter than the Corolla at highway cruising speeds. Also, I can't get over the fact that the Corolla still comes with a four speed automatic, which drastically nerfs the fuel economy. The CVT Corollas are better. About the only thing I prefer in the Corolla over the Golf is the infotainment setup, but that's only because Toyota has USB ports while the Golf still has an MDI cable (WTF?).
I don't know why the Golf is perceived so differently here in Europe, the quality of post service maybe? Does it makes any difference that they're made in Germany? Volkswagen is seen as a somewhat premium brand and barely no one is concerned about their reliability. The majority of them are manual 2.0 TDI though, and the 1.8 TSI is only available in Seat Leons and A3's. The most powerful non GTI/R petrol engine you can buy on a golf is the 1.4 ACT 150cv. The Corolla isn't even available, the closest thing sold around here is the Auris.
This argument is so tired and played out. As Ken said, you don't enter or exit the vehicle through the hatch. You enter through the doors, which there are 2 or 4 of.
I'm well over six feet, and I've had no issues sitting front or back in the Corolla. It is now very good looking, roomy, efficient and inexpensive. It has the features 95% of buyer want, and many are standard, like auto climate control in the LE. It is not fast, but that is really it in the weaknesses category. For it's mediocre speed you do get excellent gas mileage. And it's quality reputation can't be matched. You are hard pressed to get more value from a sub-$20k car than from the Toyota Corolla
I have had Toyota Corollas for decades now and they go day after day and never break down. Once in a while the stabilizer links up front need replacing, or the tires or brake pads need to be replaced as they wear down, but that's about it. Just change the fluids once in a while and drive without worries. At my dentist's office there are two women who have both gotten rid of their V.W. cars, quoting them as "MONEY PITS", needing endless repairs and always having one trouble or another. I would say this: buy a Corolla and live life without worries. If you want more power then buy the V6 Camry and live without worries (in the Camry, use Synthetic oil, that V6 sludges on regular oil.)
Michael Dao When I want to define something as being bland and simple, I don't actually use those words. I say "Wow, this taco is super Corolla" or "That is the most Corolla bitch I have ever seen".
***** If you buy a Corolla, you end up with a corolla. If you buy a Golf, you get something that feels like it cost 10 grand more. I drove a corolla and threw it out the window of my considerations after I drove 1 mile in it. Unrefined engine noise, harsh road and wind noise and it was so terrible to drive. The steering was way overboosted and numb and the chassis felt heavy and slow. The Golf feels heavy but once you get it going, it feels as agile as a Focus or Mazda3. I work for Mazda and find the Mazda3 to be quite entertaining but its no Golf in other aspects.
juan tafoya Mazda 3 is great HOWEVER in my opinion. If u take the mid trim lvl mazda 3, the GS modle, and the mid trim lvl Golf. The GS model only has 154 hp and the Golf has 175 hp with turbo engine. That's like Mazda 3 GT (top of line) engine. And the lower trim lvl Mazda 3 interior just feels a lot cheaper than the GOLF. Mazda 3 is only better than golf if you compare the top of the line mazda 3 to top of line golf (excluding GTI). Because in that case the mazda also has 175 hp engine and offers more technology. If ur a car guywho like driving looking for a mid trim lvl car then golf will be the better choice for you. At mid trim lvl pricing the golf just seems to offer a bit more. Hopefully this will help you decide if you are picking between the two. And in person the Golf looks great, especially the interior, particularly white with tinted glass. And its very sporty and quiet to drive. :)
EightyNebula - Gaming and more ! The Mazda and Corolla drive very differently. The Corolla has a more refined driving feel and the Mazda has a sportier feel. The Corolla comes with a CVT, and the Mazda comes with a traditional Auto transmission. Explain to me in what way are they simialar besides them being in the same car segment.
tnx for the video.corolla is a work horse and itss about time they give bolt on options like supercharger,brakes,suspention and fiberglass windows .world loves corolla and numbers dont lie.the best seller of all times
My mother just got that same red Corolla S with black alloys for $170/month leased. It's kind of staggering that you can get that much car for that price and then simply roll it over into a new one 2 years later. Say what you want about the Corolla, but Toyota put the money into what matters. Alloys, CVT, LED headlights, backup camera, power everything, etc, etc, and infotainment software that is easy to use. But that dashboard's flatness is strange. Reminds me of a taxi. Maybe a 90's Caprice.
Very interesting comparison, thanks for doing something like this! It would be interesting to get all the econoboxes on the market together for a comparison to see how they all stack up, I don't think I've seen one very recently.
I will admit, overall, the Golf is a more enjoyable car to drive. However, I've known too many VW owners who do all the maintenence on their cars and still have expensive reliability problems over the long term. When it finally came to purchasing a car it was between a GTI or RSX-S. The Acura was just far too reliability and visiting the VW forums I realized they were too problematic. 150,000 miles later my RSX hasn't given me one problem and I redline all the time to 8000 rpm. I've done an oil analysis, not one thing wrong with the engine. That's why ultimately makes many people decide to pick Toyota and Honda over brands like VW.
Don't forget the quality parts of the interior will be and feel MUCH better in the Golf. And the German refinements and "little things" in the Golf will definitely make it a better everyday car. Corolla will feel cheap from the door handles to everything else.
From my personal experience you buy a Toyota for reliability, which when spending your hard earned cash is a very compelling reason alone... Vw has a very bad stigma that they are unreliable fix that and VW will get more sales.
Anthony Flexas- Flexas It's not just laughable VW reliability, it's the incompetent VW service centers. Unable to duplicate problems & waiting months for parts. I still laugh about a 2001 Jetta, the VW service adviser tells the lady "your car has no oil in it".
Ivan Vojt I had a Vw Passat that would just shut off or worse felt like it would lose power. They told me to use premium gas when manufacture recommended regular, sale and service advisor were great but not being able to "duplicate it" their no way to figure out whats the problem. Well I got rid of the car because I felt it was a safety concern imagine doing 70 and complete power loss on the highway..... Few months later theirs a recall for some gas line issue. Now my brother has a 2000 Toyota Corolla with 368K miles which he bought used that to this day give him no issues..
Garzanberg Toyota didn't really have any problems. After the NHTSA/NASA investigation, they found Toyota had no more problems with unintended acceleration than most other major car makers. And in fact, most of their problems were due to driver error.
Why are you comparing a corolla to a golf?You would do better comparing a Golf to an Auris and the Corolla to a Jetta . Then you are comparing cars in the same sector .
Its not as much about value as much as these guys say i had a 2012 corolla that drove during the height of superstorm sandy on the nj turnpike just fine,It got me the 30 miles to and from work during many blizzards,cross country four times and was in two accidents (both not my fault) with the second one finishing the car because the insurance said it was too expensive to fix and they declared it a total loss.That past experience was the main driving force for me buying the 2015 model it's a work horse
Corolla needs a hatch version, or even a hot hatch version! (So does the Civic- they used to come in a great hatchback.) Golf is only a hatch but _practically_ does come as a sedan- the Jetta.
The Corolla isn't really a direct competitor of the Golf. Civic, Sentra, Madza3 Sedan, Jetta, etc, are more directly complete with the Corolla. One is a Sedan while the other is a hatchback.
granted the golf is more fun , much nicer intiror , and even better looking but and a big but , it lacks the reliability that Toyota has ...and repairing any vw electric problem with in a few years will cost you a fortune ...plus don't forget the resell value and just value for money the corolla offers
No mention of reliability. Where is Craig Cole! People buy Corolla's due to the low maintenance costs. I agree the Corolla front seats are OK, the Civic front seats are perfect but of course the Civic 2nd row is below average.
If you fit in both of them... with the exception of the engine you really do get more with the corolla for your dollar. I am as a big of a petrol head as it gets dont get me wrong. But if I was buying an econobox today and had only these 2 choices id save the money and get the Rolla. Another thing to consider is it will be much easier to get a great deal on a corolla than it would a golf since Toyota moves so many of them.
Mention reliability and safety and the Corolla wins easily. Nice golf commercial, but I ain't buying it. Use the sport button on the Corolla, the fun button.
How do you get such crappy fuel economy on the VW? I have a 1.8 TSI in a Passat and get better fuel economy than you. Driving from western Minneapolis to eastern St. Paul, I got just over 40mpg at least twice, cruising at about 65mph. My fuel economy from Aug 2015 to April 2016 averages 31.6 mpg, including winter, and based on fuel tank refills. I have no trouble getting 37 to 38 mpg on the highway. Jason at Engineering Explained got over 40mpg on a Golf GTI with the 2 litre engine. That 184 foot-pounds of torque in the Golf starts at 1,500 rpm and continues to 4,750 rpm. That's a key feature that you miss. And why choose wimpmobiles with slushbox transmissions? Man up and get manual. It isn't that hard to drive. Your grandfather can teach you.
Why do the British regard VW as reliable and Americans do not? I don't think German built VWs have fared any better than those built in Mexico. Both agree on the solid reputation of Toyota.
Kamaka Chang What Car?, a British car magazine, compiled a reliability index. Volkswagen was 23, well below most other non-premium brands, and 3 out of 4 of the worst brands of all were brands from VAG, Bentley, Porsche, Audi, so Americans aren't alone in seeing VWs as unreliable. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/11537964/Bentleys-are-the-least-reliable-cars-says-survey.html
The Golf/Jetta in the States do not sell not because the car isn't well-designed, if incredible boring and anti-stylish. Americans hate the lack of quality and reliability. The cars and brand simply cannot be trusted. Word of mouth is horrible. Every other car is an ownership nightmare of service and quality issues. America has had it with VW.
Golf is a great car to drive...only there engines got a few problems...oil consumption is to high and the 1.2 tsi rattles. ..maybe the will solve those problems in the future...people here in the Netherlands still by them because volkswagen=Status
I'd prefer to be in a 2014-2016 Golf (the last year of the previous generation was 2014) than a 2014-2016 Toyota Corolla (the current Corolla) in an accident because the Corolla received a marginal small overlap crash test score, whereas the Golf receive good ratings, even for the last generation. Let's see how the Toyota fanboys spin that data. "Oh, you'll never be in an accident like that, so who cares?" "This is a laboratory setting. No accident is ever like that." 2014 Toyota Corolla small overlap crash test findings: "Door hinge pillar and instrument panel intrusion was extensive and contributed to a moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg." www.iihs.org/frontend/iihs/ratings/images/api-rating-image.ashx?id=3051&width=800 2015 Volkswagen Golf small overlap crash test findings: "Intrusion into the driver's space was minimal, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low." www.iihs.org/frontend/iihs/ratings/images/api-rating-image.ashx?id=3275&width=800 I'd prefer to walk away from a collision (risks to injuries that are low to my legs) rather than have moderate risks of injury to lower legs personally.
This can be put simply: If you only care about peace of mind reliability: get a corolla. If you want to enjoy driving your car: get a Golf. The Golf feels like an Audi. The Corolla feels like a dish washer.
The toyota is a very good small car, after driving one though, it is extremely boring to drive. Great for the average buyer or commuter though. CVT really lets down the fun factor.
While not a big fan of Japanese made cars, but in this case I'd take the Corolla over the Golf. Golf for American market - is made in Mexico. Not buying any vehicle made in Mexico, has nothing to do with the workers skills, has to do with Management treatment of those workers. Just like I wouldn't buy any car made in China. I'd take the Mazda 3 over the Corolla (and over the Honda)
I can resonate with this opinion. That's why I'm sad that next generation corolla production will also be moving to Mexico. Like you said it's nothing personally against the workers but the management probably have a lot more leeway to abuse and make the overall process a shitty one. It reflects in the vehicle.
Problem with Toyota is you don't feell special in the car. Nothing is special. Car without a soul. You just feel that it is a transportation thing. That's why I don't like Toyota. On the other hand, in a Golf you feel something premium. Probably you shouldn't, but you do.
coming from a car guy to me the new corrolla looks fire its just looks so good but the performance is so ASSSS. Toyota finally got the looks right cuz the last good lookin corrolla was like the gt86!!! Now they need more power for petes sake then more car guys will like it. They should make like a Corrolla S with like 250hp then we will be fine. PS: the is coming from a ford guy lol
Why is everyone saying that VWs are unreliable? I have owned 6 VWs, most of which had over 230.000km on the clock at the end of their lifetime and I never had any big problem with any of them!
I don't see many VW Golfs but see many Toyota Corollas on the road. Japanese engineering is better than German. German cars care unreliable and expensive to fix while Japanese cars are easy to fix and reliable.
Klop Herald Here in Texas, they are rare. You see many Corollas/Toyota’s on the road but rarely see Volkswagen. Japanese engineering is far superior than the Germans.
I will never buy a CVT transmission like the one on the Corolla and by the way, CVT are cheaper to produce so Toyota's profit margin is better. CVT resale value are lower. These guys had no choice but to declare the Golf the winner.
People who buy cars like they are buying a refrigerator buy a corolla lol people who buy a car that like to drive buy a golf lol and so the Corolla wins in sales in the u.s every time but in other parts of the world
why does the Corolla have the ride height of a rally car? You can paint the wheels black on a refrigerator, but you are still left with a refrigerator with black wheels. The Corolla will never be cool or youthful.
I've owned VW's and Audi's from 1976 till now and I've learned a lot. They are over priced and I'll never own another. Yes they look great but with all the added crap too many electrical issues arise. Way to expensive to repair. My next purchase will be Toyota. Pretty much the same styling as VW's are now. VW has really dropped the ball and are looking more and more like Toyota's. VW used to be the leader across the board not so anymore....I'm DONE with VW
Is VW paying every journalist to praise them? No we've resorted to comparing them against their weakest competitor. I'm sorry but I do not care if it is car of the year when it is a VW. Audi has over complicated simplicity in the typical German tradition.
Of course the Corolla out-sold the Golf and deserves to: the Corolla will actually LAST. VW means issues with everything electrical, and fragile mechanicals. I'll take a Corolla 1.8 SMPI over the Golf's 1.8 TSI for one reason: VW direct injection engines will clog with carbon.
total failure of vw mechanic systems thats why vw handed over tsi engines to toyota to develop them? id by a 300.000 toyota over any new vw *everyday* as a mechanic i can say one thing thank god vw exists and we as mechanic keep our garages running! thanks vw!!
Forgot to mention the most obvious reason why it outsells it 10 to 1: reliability and longevity. People dont like to keep repairing and keep spending extra money to fix volkswagens thats why more people buy Corollas.
juan tafoya thank goodness.
+Alexander11080 Worldwide Focus is #1.
juan tafoya man toyota is very simple this is a comercial car is good is reliable but is a car only for drive, vw golf is more sofisticated, is comercial too but you feel more premium design and caracteristics, you enjoy more drive a golf and thats the true, vw golf is a exelent car why the people say other things is a world respected car because is good car
Alexander11080 where in the part of the world you mean that?
you mean the world or just germany? Maybe in your tiny head the world is germany
Alexander11080 The 2015 Golf sucks! Also, the Toyota's are by far sold more world wide. Also, those Golfs are A LOT more expensive than the Corrola's. Nearly all Golfs are equipped with an 90 or 110HP engine. Also, those Golfs are MANUAL! The Corolla is cheaper and has much more performance with the guaranteed reliability. The Golf only wins in exterior appearance. The rest, the Golf loses miserably.
As a Golf owner and someone who drives Corollas daily for a rental car company, I can say that the Golf is a light years more enjoyable and better put together car than the Corolla. However, I will say that since my company has gotten a lot more of the current gen Corolla (as reviewed here) and not the older model, I will say that its way better than it used to be. Still not as good as Golf, but I would dare say its better than the Civic and maybe even the Focus.
Don't forget far more reliable a 'Rolla will be over a Dub!
The corolla is an economy car dressed to look like a premium car. The golf is a premium car dressed to look like an economy car. I bought a Golf and drove every single competitor except the lancer. It was almost a 3 way tie between the Mazda3, Focus and Golf. The deal breaker on the Focus was unreliability, MyFordTouch, and cramped interior. The Mazda3 dealbreaker was the build quality glitches, cramped rear seat, and unrefined engines and noise. The Golf was about 3 grand more than a Mazda3 but it's so worth it. I feel like I'm driving a C class competitor.
Brandon Friesen This is probably one of the most illogical comments I've read. To tell the truth the VW Golf has the unreliability of the Ford and the "build quality glitches" of the Mazda (I don't know what it means as many surveys and statistics have shown Mazda is one of the most reliable auto brands, unlike VW and Ford). Also the Golf, just a generic yet adequate FF hatch back, can never be a C class competitor since even the much more premium Audi A3 or A4 can't match the benz.
averagejoe Smh...I said it FEELS like a c class competitor. I didn't say it was, I said it FEELS like it because of the interior quality. And look at owner satisfaction, VW is the 3rd highest auto maker with the best customer satisfaction, so if they were super unreliable, people obviously wouldn't be satisfied. And no my comment wasn't illogical. The corolla is a boring car, styled to look exciting. The golf is a premium car that looks like every other hatcback on the road. And yes Mazda has quality glitches. I work for them and they have major build quality issues on the exterior.
Enjoy the electrical problems and faulty mechanicals of your VW.
Been there, done that when I was 21.
Now that I'm 30 I realize what shit VW cars are. Just because they FEEL great means nothing.
Having purchased a brand new VW Rabbit in 2008, and a 2016 Corolla last March, I can say without any doubt that yes, the Toyota feels far cheaper. But you know what- it hasn't been a shop whore like my VW was. Do you have any idea how inconvenient getting your car towed an hour away to the nearest dealership can be?!
MyerShift7 LOL. The Golf has changed since 2008. They’re known as the best daily driver and quite reliable cars now.
My first car was a 93 Camry LE. I adored that car right up until the day I sold it off and when I did I sold it with not a single issue at all mechanically after more than 180,000 miles on the clock. An absolutely phenomenal car. This is why people buy Corollas and Camrys. And I can't say I blame them. Hell, if I had a wife and a couple kids and weren't in my lower twenties and single, I'd consider a Camry or Accord first. They're reliable and rock solid. That said, I own a 2015 GTI. And I completely agree with this video (considering the GTI is obviously very similar to the Golf).
I tried everything in the range. The Focus ST, the Mazdaspeed 3, the Civic Si, the WRX, and a few others. Some cars were better in some respects. The WRX was just a joy to drive. An absolute thrill. The Focus ST was very taught with a competitive price to performance. The Civic Si had one of the best shifters I've ever tried and it's a Honda so it's bulletproof. The Mazdaspeed was a hoot as well. But when you step back and take a look at the whole package, I drove home in the GTI. As an entire package, there's a lot on offer from interior build to daily comfort to practicality etc.
Am I worried it won't be as reliable as a Toyota or a Honda? Oh yeah... I am... there's a likelihood it'll give me more problems than either of those brands. But that's the trade off when buying a car. They all have strengths and weakness. At the end of the day, be smart. Buy what makes you happy and take the good with the bad.
Getting a Golf with an automatic is like having phone sex. It's okay, but you're not really getting the full experience.
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Hey What Did You Compared sedan against Hatchback
I’ve wanted this corolla for years- so glad I got mine 😍
If I wanted an A to B mover that had decent styling and simple reliability, then I'd choose the Corolla. If I wanted a more premium experience, fun-to-drive characteristics, and a more advanced car, I'd choose the Golf.
People buy more Corolla's than Golf's because:
1-Cheaper
2- Perceived As More Reliable
3-Better on Gas
I own 2015 Golf TSI 1.8 L and the golf has the best suspension of any new car in that price range. It is very comfortable, even in rough roads. It is much better quality than the other cars we test drove like Corolla, Mazda 3 and Mazda 3 hatchback, Dodge Dart, and Ford Focus hatchback (base). Of all cars, the Mazda you feel every bump with and the Focus was noisy, cheap, and very slow (then again it was the cheapest of all being base). In my opinion the Corolla was the ugliest of all. S model looks sporty, but its way too plastic, flat, and cheap looking on inside. It was a very hard decision for me because I liked all of these cars, but Im more than glad I went with the golf. The handling is second to none. The only annoying part of the Golf is the turbo lag if you're trying to accelerate fast, but once the RPMs reach around 2000, it accelerates very quick. Our final decision was between manual 2015 Dodge Dart and Golf Auto 5 door TSi. I do not regret my decision. Very fun, elegant, comfortable car.
Golf also won Motor Trend's 2015 car of the year so thats another point to look at. The milage you get in the golf really depends on how you drive it. Its really hard to keep it off sport mode because it's just such a fun car to drive. When I don't push the car in the city I average about 31/32mpg which is more than it is said to get... I rarely get this milage because I like to accelerate quick and like to keep the car in manual mode or sport mode. When it is in sport mode I usually get from 25-27. On the highway it is great and have gotten it up to 44 mpg. Overall, Id recommend this car to anyone. Go for a test drive.
what quality?????
are you talkling about the roof falling down?
the switches that deteriorate and look awful?
the dashboards main screen cant beseen in strong daylight?
lol////
Here in Eu its quite the opposite .100 Golfs sold per one corolla, probably even more. Fom reading the comments I took that VW customer and repair services in th US are poor, but thats not the cars fault....Golf simply IS the better car...
Roman Durana THANK. YOU.
They keep forgetting the most important reason why people buy Corollas. DEPENDABILITY!!!!
Why are you comparing a $23k car to a $32k car, the nearly $10k difference in price makes these cars incomparable both in terms of the types of buyers and how good they are.
Slimecrazy234 As mentioned in the video, $32,000 is a fully loaded TDI model. We had the 1.8 TSI model for evaluation. As tested, these two cars were separated by roughly $2,000
AutoGuide.com The problem for the Golf is depreciation. According to Edmunds, after 5 years the Corolla will depreciate about $8000 and the Golf $10000. So the 5-year cost of ownership is at least $4,000 less for the Corolla. The direct injection and turbocharging in the Golf makes it fun to drive, but they are reliability concerns over the long-term. That said, the Corolla's engine is indeed getting very old and I hope they roll out new ones next generation.
Are you stupid?
TheEquationSlayer That old Toyota engine is good for 300,000 miles. Just keep the oil and radiator fluid clean and the spark plugs changed. Even the belts hoses water and fuel pump will go 300,000. I have done it so many times. I have PURCHASED Corollas at 200,000 miles and run them another 100k. No one wants a VW with more than 60,000 miles on it. Vw makes them to last just over 100k. Baby it you may get 140k out of one. A few lucky folks make it to over 200k but not without major problems. The Diesel Golf is far more reliable than the gas one in the real world but you pay much more money for it.
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I own corolla and i got a pretty good deal i bought a fully loaded brand new 2014 corolla Type S Black on Black with mats and unto 36000 Factory warranty for 21k and i loved it there is not a single issue with this car i know its not that much fun to drive this car compare to VW but its very smooth reliable car that won't cost you a penny for next 5 years just keep the car clean and up to date on oil change tire rotations brake and fluids check my dad just sold 2005 corolla after driver 245k miles and he posted on CL and it was sold in 3 days thats the value to Toyota corolla
The Volkswagen Golf 1.8 base is a performance bargain !!!!!! Manual transmission tests 0 to 60 in 6.8 seconds quarter mile in 15 seconds... Comes with a stock turbo its a tuner's delight... just a ECU tune and you'll be making over 300+ HP and 300+ torque... all for what ?? 18k??? Plus the suspension is awesome for curvy roads !!!!!
WHEN IT COMES TO LONGEVITY & RELIABILITY, TOYOTA & HONDA ARE ALWAYS NUMBER 1.
people don't buy corollas for their sportiness and get up and go, they buy them of their reliability and good fuel economy, that's all corollas have ever been good for. if you want a sporty compact car that can get up and go, then you go for cars like the Focus ST, Civic SI or Golf GTI etc.. not a corolla.
I would by a golf if it were god damn reliable
Haider Khan It IS.
Der Ossi Right! It’s how you drive and treat your car.
@@TheMarkoPoloProgram not as reliable as a Corolla
Just got a 2016 golf tsi S and sure does have all the features i need and feels fully loaded at $22k. Make sure to get the S over the base trim. Worth the couple 1-2k!
Hi, is there a lot of diesel car in USA ?
One more example that motor journalists have absolutely no clue and will always default to sportiness and more power! In there opinion the VW is much better but, it doesn't have the sales numbers to compare. It's not just about value but needs and the carolla meet the needs of a lot of people. I must say that the auto journalists are good for a chuckle.
Aaron Walker I totally agree with you. How can you ignore 10 to 1 sales. Golf has great engine, interior and drives better. But it has serious reliability issues. We don't know about new generation and it is probably better but they won't catch up Toyota over night. I was expecting some kind of explanation about how Golf sells so little if it is so good but no chance. They just ignore their own. What a joke!!!
H0okemh0rns Yeah well, you can't ignore the market reality. People know what they know and act accordingly. If everyone got Golfs instead of Corollas, VW would sell cars good for 2 miles and then you would go get another one. And you are getting conn'ed no matter what you buy, people tend to choose the least risky one.
H0okemh0rns Please stop talking out of your arse because clearly this opinion of yours are not backed up by any reliable numbers. Here's one fact for you to digest; Toyota's corolla out sells the golf ten folds, because it's better value, better residual value, better track record in safety and reliability, better at providing affordable transporting, better engineering and better at meeting or exceeding the needs of customers. You need to recognize the placebo effect that some auto makers have, on you types, which they rely on to sell cars, most notably European ones; they are no better than the big names from Japan. It's easy to build a car when you can sell it for whatever you want, but try building a winner for decades upon decades that is cheap and they can't. There steel, aluminum, plastics, woods, leather or fabrics are no better but you've bought into the sales pitch for so long that you don't know up from down. So please, no one buys a one of the major European brands because of research, it's all based on emotions and the perceived status it implies.
Aaron Walker Golf is the best seller in Europe and one of the best sellers worldwide tough so I think it meets the needs of a lot of people... Just not Americans because they don't like hatches
Aaron Walker Justin Bieber sells more music than his competition. Doesn't mean he's the best musician in the world. Sales numbers don't mean much.
What u Didn't mention was maintenance fees and parts. Volkswagen is really Expensive!
Jessica Thomas a little bit more, not significantly thought, but the golf is a car while the corolla is an appliance.
Jessica Thomas in iraq a golf would struggle through summer it sometimes reach 60C in the sun.
And the random breakdowns! VW's either run or don't.
Bought a Mk7 Golf TSI with the automatic and I drive 2015 Corollas everyday as part of my job with a rental car company. The Golf is a much better car all around. Unlike this review, my Golf has no problems with crappy New Jersey roads and deals with all but the deepest of potholes better than the Corolla. It also is far more quieter than the Corolla at highway cruising speeds. Also, I can't get over the fact that the Corolla still comes with a four speed automatic, which drastically nerfs the fuel economy. The CVT Corollas are better. About the only thing I prefer in the Corolla over the Golf is the infotainment setup, but that's only because Toyota has USB ports while the Golf still has an MDI cable (WTF?).
Should had been Corolla vs. Jetta. To me, reliability is my top priority. I don't want a car that is fun to drive but often to the service department.
I don't know why the Golf is perceived so differently here in Europe, the quality of post service maybe? Does it makes any difference that they're made in Germany?
Volkswagen is seen as a somewhat premium brand and barely no one is concerned about their reliability.
The majority of them are manual 2.0 TDI though, and the 1.8 TSI is only available in Seat Leons and A3's. The most powerful non GTI/R petrol engine you can buy on a golf is the 1.4 ACT 150cv.
The Corolla isn't even available, the closest thing sold around here is the Auris.
Vw tsi engines are horrible all around the world. Diesel is where its at.
@@simeonmarinov2017 VW Diesel emission cheating lol but cool car though
A hatchback has allways 3 or 5 doors. Not 2 or 4.
darkman While we agree, officially most manufacturers list hatchbacks in the USA as 2 or 4 doors.
darkman Since you would never enter or exit through the hatchback or trunk the 2 or 4 door designation is correct.
This argument is so tired and played out. As Ken said, you don't enter or exit the vehicle through the hatch. You enter through the doors, which there are 2 or 4 of.
I'm well over six feet, and I've had no issues sitting front or back in the Corolla. It is now very good looking, roomy, efficient and inexpensive. It has the features 95% of buyer want, and many are standard, like auto climate control in the LE. It is not fast, but that is really it in the weaknesses category. For it's mediocre speed you do get excellent gas mileage. And it's quality reputation can't be matched. You are hard pressed to get more value from a sub-$20k car than from the Toyota Corolla
Can you do a video like this but with the Hyundai Elantra limited vs Toyota Corolla
Can you do a video like this but with the Hyundai Elantra vs Toyota Corolla
I have had Toyota Corollas for decades now and they go day after day and never break down. Once in a while the stabilizer links up front need replacing, or the tires or brake pads need to be replaced as they wear down, but that's about it. Just change the fluids once in a while and drive without worries. At my dentist's office there are two women who have both gotten rid of their V.W. cars, quoting them as "MONEY PITS", needing endless repairs and always having one trouble or another. I would say this: buy a Corolla and live life without worries. If you want more power then buy the V6 Camry and live without worries (in the Camry, use Synthetic oil, that V6 sludges on regular oil.)
The thing about the Corolla is that if you like cars at all, you will never own one.
MrGovenator1 why?
Michael Dao When I want to define something as being bland and simple, I don't actually use those words. I say "Wow, this taco is super Corolla" or "That is the most Corolla bitch I have ever seen".
***** If you buy a Corolla, you end up with a corolla. If you buy a Golf, you get something that feels like it cost 10 grand more. I drove a corolla and threw it out the window of my considerations after I drove 1 mile in it. Unrefined engine noise, harsh road and wind noise and it was so terrible to drive. The steering was way overboosted and numb and the chassis felt heavy and slow. The Golf feels heavy but once you get it going, it feels as agile as a Focus or Mazda3. I work for Mazda and find the Mazda3 to be quite entertaining but its no Golf in other aspects.
Brandon Friesen "feels 10 grand more" Yes, I agree the interior feels good. But they're terribly made cars with massive reliability issues.
Brandon Friesen Yeah that's if you get their highest model. Not worth my money honestly, I might as well get a poor man's luxury
I still prefer the Mazda 3 over the bland styled Golf.
juan tafoya Mazda 3 is great HOWEVER in my opinion. If u take the mid trim lvl mazda 3, the GS modle, and the mid trim lvl Golf. The GS model only has 154 hp and the Golf has 175 hp with turbo engine. That's like Mazda 3 GT (top of line) engine. And the lower trim lvl Mazda 3 interior just feels a lot cheaper than the GOLF. Mazda 3 is only better than golf if you compare the top of the line mazda 3 to top of line golf (excluding GTI). Because in that case the mazda also has 175 hp engine and offers more technology. If ur a car guywho like driving looking for a mid trim lvl car then golf will be the better choice for you. At mid trim lvl pricing the golf just seems to offer a bit more. Hopefully this will help you decide if you are picking between the two. And in person the Golf looks great, especially the interior, particularly white with tinted glass. And its very sporty and quiet to drive. :)
juan tafoya Mazda 3 is like the corolla except more expensive.
+EightyNebula - Gaming and more !
No, not even close.
Wrong
EightyNebula - Gaming and more ! The Mazda and Corolla drive very differently. The Corolla has a more refined driving feel and the Mazda has a sportier feel. The Corolla comes with a CVT, and the Mazda comes with a traditional Auto transmission. Explain to me in what way are they simialar besides them being in the same car segment.
tnx for the video.corolla is a work horse and itss about time they give bolt on options like supercharger,brakes,suspention and fiberglass windows .world loves corolla and numbers dont lie.the best seller of all times
My mother just got that same red Corolla S with black alloys for $170/month leased. It's kind of staggering that you can get that much car for that price and then simply roll it over into a new one 2 years later.
Say what you want about the Corolla, but Toyota put the money into what matters. Alloys, CVT, LED headlights, backup camera, power everything, etc, etc, and infotainment software that is easy to use. But that dashboard's flatness is strange. Reminds me of a taxi. Maybe a 90's Caprice.
Wow you improved your lisp!
Great review, hoping to see this comparison again.
Very interesting comparison, thanks for doing something like this! It would be interesting to get all the econoboxes on the market together for a comparison to see how they all stack up, I don't think I've seen one very recently.
I'd take a Toyota with 50,000 miles on it before a new vw. any day.
Joe B average joe
Joe B: Amen brother. I learnt the hard way as a young twenty-something that VW cars are no good.
I will admit, overall, the Golf is a more enjoyable car to drive. However, I've known too many VW owners who do all the maintenence on their cars and still have expensive reliability problems over the long term. When it finally came to purchasing a car it was between a GTI or RSX-S. The Acura was just far too reliability and visiting the VW forums I realized they were too problematic. 150,000 miles later my RSX hasn't given me one problem and I redline all the time to 8000 rpm. I've done an oil analysis, not one thing wrong with the engine. That's why ultimately makes many people decide to pick Toyota and Honda over brands like VW.
Don't forget the quality parts of the interior will be and feel MUCH better in the Golf. And the German refinements and "little things" in the Golf will definitely make it a better everyday car. Corolla will feel cheap from the door handles to everything else.
Personally hate new Corollas, but they are a lot more reliable than Golfs
When the scion Im comes out its basically a corolla hatchback test that please
From my personal experience you buy a Toyota for reliability, which when spending your hard earned cash is a very compelling reason alone... Vw has a very bad stigma that they are unreliable fix that and VW will get more sales.
Anthony Flexas- Flexas It's not just laughable VW reliability, it's the incompetent VW service centers. Unable to duplicate problems & waiting months for parts.
I still laugh about a 2001 Jetta, the VW service adviser tells the lady "your car has no oil in it".
Ivan Vojt I had a Vw Passat that would just shut off or worse felt like it would lose power. They told me to use premium gas when manufacture recommended regular, sale and service advisor were great but not being able to "duplicate it" their no way to figure out whats the problem.
Well I got rid of the car because I felt it was a safety concern imagine doing 70 and complete power loss on the highway..... Few months later theirs a recall for some gas line issue. Now my brother has a 2000 Toyota Corolla with 368K miles which he bought used that to this day give him no issues..
Anthony Flexas- Flexas easy. Lost boost pressure, assuming it was a turbo.
Anthony Flexas- Flexas Didn't people die in Toyotas because of faulty brakes? Seems like everyone has their problems...
Garzanberg Toyota didn't really have any problems. After the NHTSA/NASA investigation, they found Toyota had no more problems with unintended acceleration than most other major car makers. And in fact, most of their problems were due to driver error.
Why are you comparing a corolla to a golf?You would do better comparing a Golf to an Auris and the Corolla to a Jetta . Then you are comparing cars in the same sector .
They're still C-class vehicles whether hatch, sedan, or wagon.
Car enthusiasts drive Golfs, non car enthusiasts drive a Corolla.
No, people who drive Toyota’s want a reliable and headache free car
Its not as much about value as much as these guys say i had a 2012 corolla that drove during the height of superstorm sandy on the nj turnpike just fine,It got me the 30 miles to and from work during many blizzards,cross country four times and was in two accidents (both not my fault) with the second one finishing the car because the insurance said it was too expensive to fix and they declared it a total loss.That past experience was the main driving force for me buying the 2015 model it's a work horse
Corolla needs a hatch version, or even a hot hatch version! (So does the Civic- they used to come in a great hatchback.) Golf is only a hatch but _practically_ does come as a sedan- the Jetta.
The Corolla isn't really a direct competitor of the Golf. Civic, Sentra, Madza3 Sedan, Jetta, etc, are more directly complete with the Corolla. One is a Sedan while the other is a hatchback.
finally a conventional auto replacing the 'never ending issue' dry dual clutch
they just need to make the styling of the golf and jetta less boring and they would see a lot more sales.
granted the golf is more fun , much nicer intiror , and even better looking but and a big but , it lacks the reliability that Toyota has ...and repairing any vw electric problem with in a few years will cost you a fortune ...plus don't forget the resell value and just value for money the corolla offers
jldude84 yes a 2013 vw passat , the fuse box got fried in 22k miles
Check out actual owners' cars' long-term reliability and the choice is clear.
Corolla should be compare with a jetta not golf right?
There is no comparison Toyota ,#1 selling car of all time
this CVT business interests me, as a hypermiler
Critics would choose the Golf but the masses would choose the Corolla. A better pairing would be the Mazda 3 versus the Golf.
Elantra, corolla or mazda 3 the best options on the market !
I have no idea if he said the Corolla got absurd or observed Mpg of 34.5
No mention of reliability. Where is Craig Cole!
People buy Corolla's due to the low maintenance costs.
I agree the Corolla front seats are OK, the Civic front seats are perfect but of course the Civic 2nd row is below average.
If you fit in both of them... with the exception of the engine you really do get more with the corolla for your dollar. I am as a big of a petrol head as it gets dont get me wrong. But if I was buying an econobox today and had only these 2 choices id save the money and get the Rolla. Another thing to consider is it will be much easier to get a great deal on a corolla than it would a golf since Toyota moves so many of them.
Mention reliability and safety and the Corolla wins easily. Nice golf commercial, but I ain't buying it. Use the sport button on the Corolla, the fun button.
Corolla has a lot less room for the driver, my observations.
My experience as well.
kwk1 The Corolla has a lot of room I don't know what Corolla you have been spending your time in.
Oh you’d be surprised ..the new ones have plenty of room
Once I owned a Corolla. It was okay, but I don't think that I buy another one.
How do you get such crappy fuel economy on the VW? I have a 1.8 TSI in a Passat and get better fuel economy than you. Driving from western Minneapolis to eastern St. Paul, I got just over 40mpg at least twice, cruising at about 65mph. My fuel economy from Aug 2015 to April 2016 averages 31.6 mpg, including winter, and based on fuel tank refills. I have no trouble getting 37 to 38 mpg on the highway. Jason at Engineering Explained got over 40mpg on a Golf GTI with the 2 litre engine.
That 184 foot-pounds of torque in the Golf starts at 1,500 rpm and continues to 4,750 rpm. That's a key feature that you miss.
And why choose wimpmobiles with slushbox transmissions? Man up and get manual. It isn't that hard to drive. Your grandfather can teach you.
just saying why is the guy with the glasses shakes while he talk and drive -3- nerves?
2015 Corolla cvt transmission failed at 17,000 miles how about that now I drive a Tiguan
Why do the British regard VW as reliable and Americans do not? I don't think German built VWs have fared any better than those built in Mexico. Both agree on the solid reputation of Toyota.
Kamaka Chang What Car?, a British car magazine, compiled a reliability index. Volkswagen was 23, well below most other non-premium brands, and 3 out of 4 of the worst brands of all were brands from VAG, Bentley, Porsche, Audi, so Americans aren't alone in seeing VWs as unreliable.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/11537964/Bentleys-are-the-least-reliable-cars-says-survey.html
try to sell both cars a year or two so corolla still gonna be around 13-14k but vw value 2-3k $ .
The Golf/Jetta in the States do not sell not because the car isn't well-designed, if incredible boring and anti-stylish. Americans hate the lack of quality and reliability. The cars and brand simply cannot be trusted. Word of mouth is horrible. Every other car is an ownership nightmare of service and quality issues. America has had it with VW.
Golf is a great car to drive...only there engines got a few problems...oil consumption is to high and the 1.2 tsi rattles. ..maybe the will solve those problems in the future...people here in the Netherlands still by them because volkswagen=Status
The Corolla Hatchback was The Scion IM!.. Technically
You should have compared it to the Jetta instead.
Huh? So how is it worth the extra $? You guys didn't really explain that. I thought you would conclude the Corolla was better.
People buy the Coolla bcuz of their outstanding reliability history and Toyota parts are a lot less expensive than VW parts.
I'd prefer to be in a 2014-2016 Golf (the last year of the previous generation was 2014) than a 2014-2016 Toyota Corolla (the current Corolla) in an accident because the Corolla received a marginal small overlap crash test score, whereas the Golf receive good ratings, even for the last generation.
Let's see how the Toyota fanboys spin that data.
"Oh, you'll never be in an accident like that, so who cares?"
"This is a laboratory setting. No accident is ever like that."
2014 Toyota Corolla small overlap crash test findings: "Door hinge pillar and instrument panel intrusion was extensive and contributed to a moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg." www.iihs.org/frontend/iihs/ratings/images/api-rating-image.ashx?id=3051&width=800
2015 Volkswagen Golf small overlap crash test findings: "Intrusion into the driver's space was minimal, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low." www.iihs.org/frontend/iihs/ratings/images/api-rating-image.ashx?id=3275&width=800
I'd prefer to walk away from a collision (risks to injuries that are low to my legs) rather than have moderate risks of injury to lower legs personally.
This can be put simply: If you only care about peace of mind reliability: get a corolla. If you want to enjoy driving your car: get a Golf. The Golf feels like an Audi. The Corolla feels like a dish washer.
This is the 2016 special edition Corolla.
The toyota is a very good small car, after driving one though, it is extremely boring to drive. Great for the average buyer or commuter though. CVT really lets down the fun factor.
Who's cross-shopping these?
Please don't let the guy with the lisp talk.
Corolla is the better choice. This model golf the Corolla is better then. For what these cars will be used for the Corolla is better everyday car.
easy to clean . the corolla dash.
While not a big fan of Japanese made cars, but in this case I'd take the Corolla over the Golf. Golf for American market - is made in Mexico. Not buying any vehicle made in Mexico, has nothing to do with the workers skills, has to do with Management treatment of those workers. Just like I wouldn't buy any car made in China.
I'd take the Mazda 3 over the Corolla (and over the Honda)
I can resonate with this opinion. That's why I'm sad that next generation corolla production will also be moving to Mexico. Like you said it's nothing personally against the workers but the management probably have a lot more leeway to abuse and make the overall process a shitty one. It reflects in the vehicle.
Problem with Toyota is you don't feell special in the car. Nothing is special. Car without a soul. You just feel that it is a transportation thing. That's why I don't like Toyota. On the other hand, in a Golf you feel something premium. Probably you shouldn't, but you do.
If the car not reliable, do not sale it. Back to the drawing board please.
coming from a car guy to me the new corrolla looks fire its just looks so good but the performance is so ASSSS. Toyota finally got the looks right cuz the last good lookin corrolla was like the gt86!!! Now they need more power for petes sake then more car guys will like it. They should make like a Corrolla S with like 250hp then we will be fine. PS: the is coming from a ford guy lol
I can't watch this with that dude's LISP... lol its HEAVY as.
Why is everyone saying that VWs are unreliable? I have owned 6 VWs, most of which had over 230.000km on the clock at the end of their lifetime and I never had any big problem with any of them!
Maybe a VW is reliable compared with a Peugeot or FIAT, but certainly not at all compared to a Corolla or even a Civic.
I don't see many VW Golfs but see many Toyota Corollas on the road. Japanese engineering is better than German. German cars care unreliable and expensive to fix while Japanese cars are easy to fix and reliable.
ELPJM09 You don't see many Golfs? Do you wear glasses my friend?
Klop Herald Here in Texas, they are rare. You see many Corollas/Toyota’s on the road but rarely see Volkswagen. Japanese engineering is far superior than the Germans.
não entendi nada......
I will never buy a CVT transmission like the one on the Corolla and by the way, CVT are cheaper to produce so Toyota's profit margin is better. CVT resale value are lower. These guys had no choice but to declare the Golf the winner.
People who buy cars like they are buying a refrigerator buy a corolla lol people who buy a car that like to drive buy a golf lol and so the Corolla wins in sales in the u.s every time but in other parts of the world
why does the Corolla have the ride height of a rally car?
You can paint the wheels black on a refrigerator, but you are still left with a refrigerator with black wheels. The Corolla will never be cool or youthful.
I've owned VW's and Audi's from 1976 till now and I've learned a lot. They are over priced and I'll never own another. Yes they look great but with all the added crap too many electrical issues arise. Way to expensive to repair. My next purchase will be Toyota. Pretty much the same styling as VW's are now. VW has really dropped the ball and are looking more and more like Toyota's. VW used to be the leader across the board not so anymore....I'm DONE with VW
harry bono BTW VW Golfs in America are made in Mexico
Both are nice cars but toyota brand is more reliable
Is VW paying every journalist to praise them? No we've resorted to comparing them against their weakest competitor. I'm sorry but I do not care if it is car of the year when it is a VW. Audi has over complicated simplicity in the typical German tradition.
The Corolla looks better.
I's love golf😍
I do believe that Toyota makes good cars (I have never owned one) but at least to me the design on most of the cars is one of the worst
Of course the Corolla out-sold the Golf and deserves to: the Corolla will actually LAST. VW means issues with everything electrical, and fragile mechanicals.
I'll take a Corolla 1.8 SMPI over the Golf's 1.8 TSI for one reason: VW direct injection engines will clog with carbon.
total failure of vw mechanic systems
thats why vw handed over tsi engines to toyota to develop them?
id by a 300.000 toyota over any new vw *everyday*
as a mechanic i can say one thing
thank god vw exists and we as mechanic keep our garages running!
thanks vw!!