Wow Jamie! Can't believe how amazing that looks! Did not expect it to look that good! A lot less hassle than trying to get a decent sprayed finish. Definitely worth trying on a model to get different finishes , wings, fuselage and different panels. Cracking video mate and food for thought. Cheers Jamie, hope you feeling better soon. 👍 👊
Great demo, Jamie! I've tried the regular Ammo drybrush paints and like them. Haven't tried the metallic drybrush paint yet, but you results have convinced me to get some and give them a try.
They are awesome. Yesterday I drybrushed couple of model parts - some with DIO Light Metal, others with ICM Gun Metal (not a bad paint by itself) - results for former one were way more predictable.
Hi Jamie, my first time commenting on your videos 👍🏻. I’m not sure to the point of dry brushing an entire model over black paint but thats just my opinion. The brushing over the camouflage areas looked really good and as you did mention, other products can give a similar effect. I’m not sure I would be interested in buying the product myself but good results anyway. 😊👍🏻
Fantastic looking product and a great demonstration Jamie . I really like the finish that it gives . Normally when I attempt a Natural metal finish I tend to use different shades and finishes of black to break up the panels as Aluminium paint looks different when applied over different base colours. Does this method work with the dry brush paint? I'd like to see what it would look like over a mix of matt black and rubber and nato black . Great video thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Jamie, great video and just watched it with a brew in bed after a night shift 😀 Great idea, and having seen it, tempted to try it on the 1/32 Copper State Models Nieuport XVII Late, which is all silver. Would also be good to try the worn effects on wing routes etc. but using a much smaller brush. Thanks for the demo. Jase 🇬🇧
Awesome technique. What is very neat v airbrushing is that on some of the detail there is a bit of shadow effect from the primer where the drybrush hasn't quite got in there.
Looks like a great technique Jamie. I'll be trying this on an EE Lightning mule (Tamiya's 1:100 kit). The question will be what is the best way to get different finishes on different panels? Perhaps a variety of pre-shade base coats in greys and white as well as black? Might be easier than masking and post shading using different drybrush colours. I'll have a play and report back on your FB page.
Hey Jamie, another interesting point would be how the paint handles layers of different kinds of paints on top and how durable the finish will be in the end. I.e. Does it take masking without lifting of subsequent paint layers. Pre-shading aspects have been mentioned in previous comments. How does it thin and airbrush (although this is not the marketed purpose of the paint) andfcan you tint it? Thanks for exploring this technique, looking forward to the finished P-51.
It certainly shows promise. Would it be possible to do a test strip in Gunze clear as well as the aqua gloss to see if there is any difference in the reflectively between the two different clears. I’m unconvinced there is, but it may be different over this paint .
Well, that's a handy bit of knowledge to have, thanks for the experiment Jamie. Something I have done which worked for me was to use AK's true metals tube (The waxy stuff that takes months to dry) and mix it with proper car strength thinners in a mixing jar. It sprayed on beautifully, dried quickly (and totally!) and looked very, very good as a part-aged ally look, which still buffed to a shine if required (more work than before, but still doable). Only used it once so far, but I need to try it again and do more weathering on it this time.
Hello Archer, what kind of thinner did you use on the AK stuff? White spirit or cellulose thinner? I have got a couple of those paints kicking around and wonder how to improve drying time. Did you also apply them via brush or rather airbrush?
The point of this was to see what effect using water based acrylics would yield, there are better options for a metal finish out there. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
@@JanGeiersbach It was cellulose thinners, from a tool store or similar. IIRC I mixed about a pea sized blob which went quite far coverage wise, sprayed over black gloss undercoar. I have panited the true metals with a brush, but not when mixed with thinners.
I've been using that particular one for over a year now mostly for cockpits and fan blades. I'm gonna give this a shot though probably on a 1/72 airfix p-51d
Interesting technique and looks effective. Does it at any point in the process look like chipping? I'm thinking small areas I can chip with a brush but larger areas tend to need hairspray chipping to look realistic. I'm thinking maybe this could be an alternative. It did look to me at certain stages a bit chippy i.e. stop before you get an even coat.
I wouldn't recommend it for chipping, worn paint maybe. Probably best to undercoat the model with this, seal it then use hairspray or masking fluid applied with a sponge.
Got the dry brushes set when I was buying my kit. I had the big paint brush set already and they were decent quality at a good price so got dio dry brush set too. Looks like I may have to get some paint as well!
The Premium Dio DryBrush set whilst expensive has numbers 2,4,6 & 8 in it. Highly recommended. I have just ordered the Dio DryBrush Set Metallic Colors which contains A.MIG-0621 Light Metal A.MIG-0622 Gun Metal A.MIG-0623 Brass A.MIG-0618 Chipping Just need Aluminium (A.MIG-0628)
Mmm, food for thought... It gives a really nice effect over the matt black. It would be a great technique for any aircraft that had odd random alloy panels (thinking of the nose cowling on the Do 335), would be a great effect for that, many thanks Jamie :)
I will never, ever use AK. But that's not water based acrylic, and you will get much better results from Ammo A-Stand or GSI Creos/Tamiya lacquers, the whole point of this exercise was to test water based acrylics.
Interesting approach, if airbrushing isn't an option. I guess I'll try that technique on a P-47 egg plane. Just have to get hold of that Ammo drybrush paint.
The results are nice, but nothing like mirror effect. Just a regular dull-ish color. But I can see an advantage here - all the details are picked up already, so there is no need for wash. I have some Vallejo metalics, I wonder how they gonna behave
I have a 1/32 CF-104 Starfighter that I WAS doing in the natural metal finish. After a few botched layers I just don't know if it can be saved, but I may try this...
You know someone is throwing the kitchen sink at it when they market dry brush brushes, djeez... But to business : did you try this trick before without the black coat ?
I've done this for years using tamiya acrylic chrome over flat black for panels, etc. Ive never tried it on an entire airframe! Super cool
Thanks Jim. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Some people consider Ammo stuff overpriced. But it is so damn good and is worth every penny.
Thanks for demonstrating this technique! I will have to share it with my club at a future meeting!
Thanks Scott. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Very interesting test Jamie, I really want to try the Ammo Drybrush paint now.
Goodness Jamie this looking fantastic, thanks for sharing.
Cheers Liam. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Wow Jamie! Can't believe how amazing that looks! Did not expect it to look that good! A lot less hassle than trying to get a decent sprayed finish. Definitely worth trying on a model to get different finishes , wings, fuselage and different panels. Cracking video mate and food for thought. Cheers Jamie, hope you feeling better soon. 👍 👊
Thanks Bobby. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
GeezJamie, that is a stunning finish, quicker to dry and so much more durable than enamels
Cheers Bill. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Great demo, Jamie! I've tried the regular Ammo drybrush paints and like them. Haven't tried the metallic drybrush paint yet, but you results have convinced me to get some and give them a try.
They are brilliant Ken. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
They are awesome. Yesterday I drybrushed couple of model parts - some with DIO Light Metal, others with ICM Gun Metal (not a bad paint by itself) - results for former one were way more predictable.
Hi Jamie, my first time commenting on your videos 👍🏻. I’m not sure to the point of dry brushing an entire model over black paint but thats just my opinion. The brushing over the camouflage areas looked really good and as you did mention, other products can give a similar effect. I’m not sure I would be interested in buying the product myself but good results anyway. 😊👍🏻
Any tip to achieve a decent NMF is brilliant.
Great job👍
Cheers Pete. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Thanks for this, added to my shopping list
Fantastic looking product and a great demonstration Jamie . I really like the finish that it gives . Normally when I attempt a Natural metal finish I tend to use different shades and finishes of black to break up the panels as Aluminium paint looks different when applied over different base colours. Does this method work with the dry brush paint? I'd like to see what it would look like over a mix of matt black and rubber and nato black . Great video thanks for sharing 👍
Yes Greg, I am also very curious if some sort of pre-shading /panel shading would yield variations in the metal finish.👍🏻
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Hi Jamie, great video and just watched it with a brew in bed after a night shift 😀
Great idea, and having seen it, tempted to try it on the 1/32 Copper State Models Nieuport XVII Late, which is all silver.
Would also be good to try the worn effects on wing routes etc. but using a much smaller brush.
Thanks for the demo.
Jase 🇬🇧
Would be good to see, how it looks if sealed with varnished over
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Brilliant that’s a revelation. Must get this stuff. The Eduard P-51B will be an ideal subject.
Awesome technique. What is very neat v airbrushing is that on some of the detail there is a bit of shadow effect from the primer where the drybrush hasn't quite got in there.
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Looks like a great technique Jamie. I'll be trying this on an EE Lightning mule (Tamiya's 1:100 kit). The question will be what is the best way to get different finishes on different panels? Perhaps a variety of pre-shade base coats in greys and white as well as black? Might be easier than masking and post shading using different drybrush colours. I'll have a play and report back on your FB page.
I look forward to seeing the results Phil. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Hey Jamie, another interesting point would be how the paint handles layers of different kinds of paints on top and how durable the finish will be in the end. I.e. Does it take masking without lifting of subsequent paint layers. Pre-shading aspects have been mentioned in previous comments.
How does it thin and airbrush (although this is not the marketed purpose of the paint) andfcan you tint it?
Thanks for exploring this technique, looking forward to the finished P-51.
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading;oading right now!
That is a really impressive result.
I bought a jar of ammo ultra glue on your recommendation. It's an excellent acrylic glue ,thanks.
Thanks Stephen, glad you like the Ultra glue. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
That's interesting.......in fact, that's very interesting! 👍🏻
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
It certainly shows promise. Would it be possible to do a test strip in Gunze clear as well as the aqua gloss to see if there is any difference in the reflectively between the two different clears. I’m unconvinced there is, but it may be different over this paint .
I think it will work the same as long as it is a thin coat. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Well, that's a handy bit of knowledge to have, thanks for the experiment Jamie. Something I have done which worked for me was to use AK's true metals tube (The waxy stuff that takes months to dry) and mix it with proper car strength thinners in a mixing jar. It sprayed on beautifully, dried quickly (and totally!) and looked very, very good as a part-aged ally look, which still buffed to a shine if required (more work than before, but still doable). Only used it once so far, but I need to try it again and do more weathering on it this time.
Thanks, I may have finally found a use for mine.
Hello Archer, what kind of thinner did you use on the AK stuff? White spirit or cellulose thinner? I have got a couple of those paints kicking around and wonder how to improve drying time. Did you also apply them via brush or rather airbrush?
The point of this was to see what effect using water based acrylics would yield, there are better options for a metal finish out there. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
@@JanGeiersbach It was cellulose thinners, from a tool store or similar. IIRC I mixed about a pea sized blob which went quite far coverage wise, sprayed over black gloss undercoar. I have panited the true metals with a brush, but not when mixed with thinners.
Wish I’d seen this for the undersides of my BOAC Whitley, a definite for the 1/72 Vampire T11. Much appreciated!
I've been using that particular one for over a year now mostly for cockpits and fan blades. I'm gonna give this a shot though probably on a 1/72 airfix p-51d
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
I agree it looks great and is is acrylic. Double the pleasure and fun. ✔✔
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Another tool in the Arsenal 👏👏👏
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Fantastic. Thanks.
Thanks Perry. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Looks great!
Interesting technique and looks effective. Does it at any point in the process look like chipping? I'm thinking small areas I can chip with a brush but larger areas tend to need hairspray chipping to look realistic. I'm thinking maybe this could be an alternative. It did look to me at certain stages a bit chippy i.e. stop before you get an even coat.
I wouldn't recommend it for chipping, worn paint maybe. Probably best to undercoat the model with this, seal it then use hairspray or masking fluid applied with a sponge.
Never thought of using these paints this way mate. I can see how that technique is ideal for doing derelict aircraft. It has that used look to it. 👍
Cheers James. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
nice, weathered metal effect
Thanks Simon. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Got the dry brushes set when I was buying my kit. I had the big paint brush set already and they were decent quality at a good price so got dio dry brush set too. Looks like I may have to get some paint as well!
The Premium Dio DryBrush set whilst expensive has numbers 2,4,6 & 8 in it. Highly recommended.
I have just ordered the Dio DryBrush Set Metallic Colors which contains
A.MIG-0621 Light Metal
A.MIG-0622 Gun Metal
A.MIG-0623 Brass
A.MIG-0618 Chipping
Just need Aluminium (A.MIG-0628)
Go for it. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
@@thescalemodellingcafe Done!
Mmm, food for thought... It gives a really nice effect over the matt black. It would be a great technique for any aircraft that had odd random alloy panels (thinking of the nose cowling on the Do 335), would be a great effect for that, many thanks Jamie :)
It certainly would Andrew. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Greetings from Canada. Thanks for posting. Is this finish buffable, before it fully dries?
Try it with Ak interactive True Metal colors. You will obtain better results.I have tried It.
I will never, ever use AK. But that's not water based acrylic, and you will get much better results from Ammo A-Stand or GSI Creos/Tamiya lacquers, the whole point of this exercise was to test water based acrylics.
It would be nice to see how it performs over a larger 1/48 model, now that would be a test Sir.
When I've got a suitable model in mind I will for sure mate. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading;oading right now!
I have some and plan to get the full set of dry brushes before trying them on a tank kit.
Go for it Robert! Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Interesting approach, if airbrushing isn't an option. I guess I'll try that technique on a P-47 egg plane. Just have to get hold of that Ammo drybrush paint.
Most Ammo stockists will have some. Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Even the edges look very convincing, as if the paint had worn off...!
Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Thanks
The results are nice, but nothing like mirror effect. Just a regular dull-ish color. But I can see an advantage here - all the details are picked up already, so there is no need for wash. I have some Vallejo metalics, I wonder how they gonna behave
Aluminium weathers to a duller, greyer finish so I think it replicates wartime service aeroplanes very well.
I have a 1/32 CF-104 Starfighter that I WAS doing in the natural metal finish. After a few botched layers I just don't know if it can be saved, but I may try this...
After 6 minutes you sound like Ben Collins (Top Gear Stig) 😂
Shame I can't drive like him! Check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
I've ordered mine😊
You know someone is throwing the kitchen sink at it when they market dry brush brushes, djeez...
But to business : did you try this trick before without the black coat ?
No, just after. But check out version 2.0 which I'm in the process of uploading right now!
Looks like Humbrol 11 :D
🤓 😬