Debtors' Prisons: Life Inside America’s For-Profit Justice System (Part 1/2)
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- VICE’s Justice series examines the winners and losers of the for-profit criminal justice system. Imprisoning people for being poor has technically been illegal in this country for two hundred years, but it is still a reality. Municipalities with small, low-income populations and correspondingly low tax bases regularly pay their salaries, and pad their budgets by issuing “quality of life” and traffic fines to people for minor offenses-and sending them to jail if they can’t pay.
VICE examines the ways these local governments have turned broken-windows policing into profit, and meets the people who are fighting back.
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the system isn't broken. the justice system was built with intention from the start to racially discriminate.
Yes. How else would they keep the poor people in poverty? This is exactly what it'd designed to do
This isn't a race problem, it's a poverty one. This documentary is about people who can't afford to pay off their debts.
+DaCamponTwee Keeping blacks poor and working for RICH white people started right as they were freed from slavery. Granted it's not so bad now but the problem is it's very hard to escape poverty and very few people can. The catch of the capitalist dream is only a few can live it.
+Mask Your right.
and it's just a coincidence they do this mostly in black communities and it's just a coincidence that black males are over represented in the prison population which is used as slave labor and it's just a coincidence black men are shot by police twice as often as anyone else and it's not a coincidence Daniel Holtzclaw targeted black women..
JUST A COINCIDENCE!!
NOTHING RACIST HERE!
"I'm in for 6 murders and armed robbery, you?"
"I'm in for mismatching blinds :/ "
"My grass was too high, I got 2 years".
These is so ludicrous it’s actually funny.
Jardste 😂😂😂sad but true
If it wasn't so sad, the way this is affecting the people who live there, one could build a Great career, if you're a stand up comic! This is sooooo off the wall I had to make sure I wasn't on The Onion's site!
"Free Country"
The system isn't broken, it was designed this way.
Facts 💯
And that’s worst
]g]
You kinda said the same thing but in a different way
Yep and we continue to do nothing about it. We need to quit fighting eachother and come together as one and really start to push hard for change. They implement laws and try to divide us to prevent what I was just saying needs to be done
Its like when they give homeless people tickets and they can't pay and now they have a warrant and get arrested. So now they have a record and the circle keeps going
Unfortunately the mass public could care less about issues like this. Crime is used as a political tool for profit.
Well at least they have a place to sleep and food to eat now
That cant be the case can it? Thank god as u say in state I live in Europe
@@anon6559 its very true and sad. Alot of people end up with warrants because they can't pay a fine.
Yup
I just saw a study that said 50% of Americans can't come up with $400 if there is an emergency and 67% can't come up with $1000. If the middle class doesn't have money to pay these fines, the poor definitely doesn't have the money.
I read that also a couple months ago!
I read that Hannity said "Tough Crap, Work More Hours" and Trump said "The Minimum Wage Is Too High". Thanks GOP (who are fully endorsing for profit policing/jails) and MASS POVERTY.
Fla Playa proves he is an idiot.. In St Louis it is exclusively cities run by Democrats, with Democrat mayors (with one exception) which operate these taxation by citation systems and these debtor prisons.
Look at the North county cities in St Louis, then look at the political party of the mayor and city council... ALL Democrats
while the predominately republican house and senate passed SB5, SB572 and such to stop these democrats and their heinous traditions
And 2/3 of Americans have a criminal record. It's a messed up country.
Dan, I'm not an idiot just real fed up and tired of the corruption going on and see it's dramatic rise due to "conservative" way of service based economic thinking. MO to my surprise is in fact a blue state.. CCA and GeoCorp are however above their heads. It sucks either way fellow citizen. We need to stand up or they are going to keep running us over.
If this is not organized crime and racketeering, I don't know what is.
Nah it's ok if the government does it. You should know that
Seriously. This is ruin poor people lives worse than they are.
This is stealing,since when can't a person cook some meals on a grill,they should arrest wal mart they sell them by the droves!!! This older lady has been harassed I would tell them you want it painted,then you paint it,looks fine to me also she's an older lady not that easy to paint when your poor and too old to do it yourself!! This is total crap!
Racketeering extortion kidnapping
KTA
I've gone through the system because of unpaid traffic fines.
I still can't believe how people are treated as criminals because of the lack of money. It's a endless circle of fines on top of more fines.
Right
They want that lady's property. Simple
Right
America, land of the free, unless your blinds don't match.
Or you're poor
My blinds don't match lol
yeah same damn opps havent caught me yet so im gud
Or if you're Mexican
👍
This system is NOT broken.
It's DESIGNED this way.
Well said
and efficiently engineered
An anti Christ satanic, racist system
@@kushzulu5581 💯% FACT.!
truth
I feel sick to my stomach watching what they are doing to these hardworking people. How many lives have been ruined because of these actions done by the public servants. SMH
Like seriously? BBQs and Bamboo in the yard? In most places code enforcement will get the crap kicked out of them if they try and act like busy bodies like that.
This is one of many, many reasons why I’m so bewildered when I hear americans talking about how lucky they are to live in “The best country in the world”
It's bad, but what place is better?
@@willlance2745 Canada
@@meccaunknown9756 yeah where freedom of speech and other rights are pissed on even more. Nope to hell with Canada.
@@willlance2745 What are the alternatives in reality? There are no sanctuaries. Everywhere that a non-fiat currency is used is bombed or sanctioned then spun as the instigator of their own demise. I can see how the "road warrior" series will become a way of future life.
mecca unknown do you know what Canada has done and continues to do to its indigenous people. Makes this look like a nice day in the legal system.
Your grass is 3 inches high?
Go to jail... America... Land of the free... Rrrriiiiight....
Lol... or just don't live in Missouri? Or the other 8 shitholes they mentioned at 1:55? Most Americans know better than to do that. You sure as shit don't go to jail for any of this crap in my state... at WORST you'd lose your driver's license and get sent to collections ;) I can tell how many anti-Americans don't understand how states work. I'm not really convinced Vice does, either.
+Dennis I'm anti-earth... Our entire human civilization is shitty...
there is some good. raise your children correctly, follow my lead
+Smashed Avenger that's actually not true. The most southern states or the states with a culture defined as Southern have the least amount of restrictions. As you go west the restrictions increase exponentially. This is not arguable its fact I don't know where you made up that other nonsense
So because people don't agree how their state is run, how their towns are run, how their cities are run, they are "Anti-American" Really? Who cares who runs the city when it comes to blue or red??? Working the system to your advantage and corruption isn't blue or red. It's just wrong period. I can easily answer Judge Nunn's question. Why if the city wanted to make money why would they just pull over or go house to house where poor black families live??? Because they have neither the means nor the resources to fight. And the reason that case was settled out of court so quickly is because it was WRONG. And the officials knew it.
One phrase made my blood boil "locked up for my long grass".. That is literally worse than the gestapo. It actually is. Fucking hell.
The point in prisons is to keep the public safe, not to punish the criminal. Only Nordic countries still seem to know this. How is this keeping citizens safe. Fucking bullshit.
+NewBenCity It's easier to preserve criminal legacy than to start one, and it's easier to start criminal legacy than to end it.
Poverty and injustice give birth to crime, but giving them punishment doesn't usually make them stop doing crimes. They got it all backwards, and people ignorant of life's realities blame criminals. They want to survive and thrive like you and me, and they got put to a spot and made a decision. Many just follow gang legacies just like you obey your mommy and daddy when you were going school getting education.
They just like you. You could be in their position in a heartbeat if your earthly wealth was taken from you. Can happen to the best of us, and those of you who are in the level of downplaying the downtrodden aren't the brightest of us. Because there's a karma, you get what's coming in this life or one of the next ones. I rather go through with it now and cut the extra bs
+NewBenCity USA doesn't care about rehabilitating criminals. They care about money. It's genuinely funny that people act like it's a bastion of freedom.
Off topic, but nice profile pic. I love that album.
Worse than the Gestapo? lol ummm...are you sure?
The justice system in America is so damn broken and needs to be stripped down and rebuilt by the citizens and not the over paid government
Can't Agree more
3:55 Painting Bricks?
Those bricks look VERY FINE
First of all those are not bricks. Her home is an eye sore.
Kelci Bee then why don’t you find her a job with her skill set that’ll pay for a nicer home? Why does where she live bother so you much?
@@kelcibee1648 well good thing it’s hers and not yours 🤷♀️ she can do whatever she wants to her house
that judge is a cold hearted person.
RACIST
I like how the judge guy went "no we're not racists, we're just classists who like robbing the poor because we're too stingy to just pay the tax money to run our own courts", fuckin' unreal.
Yup and one day he'll meet his own judge
Most of them are
This is slavery at its finest.
Modern day slavery. it never ends. Now it is poor people that are the slaves.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing [sic] in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. COURTS ARE CORPORATIONS AND RUN UNDER COMERCIAL LAWS YOU SIGN YOU CONTRACT GET THE OATH OF EVERY JUDGED TO THE CONSTITUTION . THE COURTS ARE RUN BY A UNCONSITITONAL MONOPOLY CALLED THE BAR ASSOCIATION THEY ARE JUST AS GUITY.
why because you get in trouble when you do something wrong..... wow
SpotyoWiFi ! there's plenty of white people in our prisons and jails!!
Not slavery. Prejudice. Worst knowing that you are free, but others won’t let you be.
" I'm not gunna mess up my bricks"
Elishah Landsdown I loved that lady. She seems like such a great person to meet
i love it
I remember living in Los Angeles and that place is ticket city . Cops just write tickets all the time for everything.
...JUST REVIVED MY "TO DO LIST".....'STAY THE PHUCK OUTTA , ST. LOUIE MISSOURI"....
IM tryna get the fuck outta here errbody down here really wanna leave 🤦🏾♂️
Exactly
Alex Stone they don't want black folks there I hate racists towns 😠😠
@@syleiswiley4037 Well its all abt Power @ tha end of the day & Politics in Missouri IM pretty sure is dirty here as much as any other CITY, BUT I get what U sayin rather the least...
@@jaymooris2754 Im gonna pray for you. Head East atleast 4 states, you probably haven't been to the beach in awhile anyway.
You can really go to jail for mismatched blinds? What kind of country are we living in?
an evil one that’s for sure
That's a fucked up law
Thank god i don't live there lol
@kokakoliah because most Americans are ignorant
kokakoliah because sometimes people just can’t up and move. Some people have no where to go especially if everyone they know lives there. I agree I would move but sometimes it’s not that simple.
Yet amazon didn't pay anything in taxes. Effin bs!
"In order for the system to work,you're going to have to issue warrants" ?
The guy actually said this at 9:39 of the video.
So,the system is corrupt,right ?
It can only work,if you issue warrants ?
What kind of system is this ?
He also said to the effect of "when they come here they are usually guilty..." I thought that's what jurors said to judges not judges saying to reporters.
The land of the free. ..if you are Rich.
yup
Or if you abide by the law.
+Alex Fuck You 🖕🏾
+Alex if you abide by the law that only works for a few so fuck america fucking corrupt colony! from a non american
The land of free if you're white also
Fined for having mismatched blinds? God damn...
city ordinances like that are ridiculous, criticism should be directed towards the legislators.. not the police. st. Louis county executive is democrat, council is 7/9 majority democrat.
how the fuck is that illegal? or wearing some "saggy pants?" there is something really, really fucked up in the usa´s justice system.. I think fining people for what they wear is a violation to the basic human rights.
exactly the police are just servants. the legislators are the one making the laws. instead of marching to the police stations, we need to march to the us capitol.
+Emmanuel Majekodunmi but the police don't need to fine them
yes they do, understand that it is their job and they will get fired if they don't. it is like teaching, they have to follow the board of education rules and regulations or they get terminated.
In Virginia, you have to pay for each day you are in jail too. It's a never ending circle to keep people incarcerated foe $$$
Pennsylvania too. Something luke $11 a day is charged against you. If someone brings money for you for commissary, half of it goes directly to the jail if youve been there previously.
Man that fathers reaction about his son Mr. Anthony hanging him self over traffic tickets got me. Being a father myself I couldn’t imagine losing my child because they feel hopeless. Or they feel so bad that taking their own life is the only answer for them. Makes me tear up just thinking about this.... my heart goes out to any and all parents who’ve had to bury their children over the system. That goes for these unjustified police shootings to... damn.
Yet US spent trillions of dollars to fight in Iraq and Afghan. LOL
We actually borrowed the money from Japan and China the 2 countries that have trillions of US dollars in reserve currency.
Medical company’s and higher government officials make money off it tho, ua-cam.com/video/qW2YWqVpT4E/v-deo.html
54 million a day to nasa to film moon landings in a holywood basement
@@OTOss-fi2el They probably get fined for being stupid too.
hey, those machines aren’t gonna kill for free.
all this surface freedom isn’t free, ya know.
i live in the most powerful country in the world, where anyone can make it happen for themselves. you just have to read the fine print. all the haves are standing on the backs of the have nots.
this is a picture of satans world. only in an evil place can you get ahead by doing the worst things. as americans, we are taught that we are the greatest in the world. we are the good guys. it’s a little hard to swallow when you get older and realize everything you need to do to have the american dream is sinful. literally the only way to accumulate money is doing something god expressly says not to do. how can we be proud of the way we are? it’s nice to have the option to be something.. but the price is too steep for anyone with a heart.
I lived there once. It's not Missouri -it's pronounced Mis-er-y.
Ya for sure its always been misery to me and only driven through
truth Misery, lived in Kansas City for a long time, the whole city is designed around segregation
@Tracy Raia-dowd • I think you got the spelling right . 😕
Escape From Zombie Island wrong comment section incell. Ur life is sad. Just like whatever woman who’s sad enough to marry you 🧚🏾♂️
PlankGJE economic segregation now in Kansas City. But jobs are plenty if you want work 🤷🏽♀️ or create your own work. There’s always money to be made in Kansas City, you just got to get off your ass & hustle.
Girl you need to move and get out of that place. Sounds like a nightmare.
They do this in every state across the country its extremely disgusting that any non violent crimes should see a day in jail just like speeding driving without a license or because you have some weeds in the yard its ridiculous and it needs to be changed.
5:42 they even got a Bank of America inside the municipal court. WOW 😲
damnnnn
@Geoff Speedie 😂😂😂😂 its like a siper fucked up joke. so petty of them
I had to go back to see that... That shit is crazy
This first lady is 100% on point. She would be called a crazy lady but she's more sane than probably most people. She's right it's all about the $$$$.
Nah, she can cut her grass and keep her property neater than that. I'm sorry but if a city allows people to let some people keep their property any way that they want it would be a disaster the homeowners who try to keep their property in order, not to mention how it hurts the values of other property owners.
4:23. After seeing that. Home of the free, or fighting for the freedoms you have in the US? Are you people completely delusional and retarded, believing you have "freedom " in the US while others all over the world don't? WTF is wrong with you people.
@@triggb71 Land of the fukin free , eh?
@@triggb71 actually an idiot. Funny how when it comes to certain kinds of people it's freedom this first amendment that but when it comes to other kinds of people it's "well you could keep your grass a little neater than that. It kinda bothers me tbh therefore here is your crippling debt.
@@triggb71 nah, come around my house on that b.s. and you might be introduced to the effectiveness of my USMC combat marksmanship training/instruction. I don’t care about your property value. You want higher value install some cabinets and do your floors like everyone else.
Guilty of trying to live this is outrageous they need to put the police and judge in jail
I wish there was an update about how this documentary changed things in that city. It’s outrageous.
That judge is a real piece of work indeed.
Hopefully they voted him out
Racist judge
They didn't show NY on the map, but in 1997 I was doing a temp gig at the Jacob Javits center. I was doing catering work black tuxedo and all. Midway through my shift I was approached by two state highway patrol officers. This was at the time that security at Jacob Javits was run by the highway patrol. They had done a background check on all temp personnel and had discovered an outstanding warrant issued to me. The warrant was due to an unpaid transit authority ticket I had received in 1989!!! I had jumped the turnstile, received a ticket, and had not paid it so the warrant was issued. The highway patrol cuffed me, called NYPD. NYPD came to pick me up and took me Kings County court. Went through the whole bullpen therapy bullshit, in my tuxedo, mind you...didn't get to see the judge that day, spent the night in the holding cells with plenty of others...anyone who's been through the NYC courts knows how fucked up it is. Next day I get to see the judge he gives me the option to pay $50 or 10 days jail time...fortunately I had cashed a check a few days prior and had the cash on me so paid my way out, but had I not had it, it was jail for me. This is pretty much what they are describing in this video. Ruthless, heartless, inhumane motherfuckers, seriously!
Gregory Fabre then don’t steal then
I'm not trying to say that I deserved a free ride or to say that I didn't break the law...yes I did. I was trying to put into perspective the balance between the crime and the punishment. I think an 8 year old transit violation didn't warrant what happened. You can disagree.
So you’re an admitted criminal? How is it that you think society should work?
I'm not here to fix society, i just feel there are some abuses. As far as I was concerned I believe after 8 years something that minor should be expunged. They spend more money transporting me, housing me for 24 hours than the 50$ fine I paid.
Gregory Fabre Just ignore the other commenters. Must be nice to be perfect and to have never done anything stupid or illegal once in their lives....even through the wild adolescent/teenage years! Personally, I can’t believe the govt went to all that expense over such a minor offence that happened almost a decade ago. Also, the option between paying $50 OR 10 days in jail???! Wow! If you didn’t have the $50 you could have been placed in jail amongst rapists, murderers, etc. That just seems so messed up! Here in Canada first off your nearly decade old infraction would most likely have just been simply dismissed but even if not, worst thing is you might have to do a couple of hours of community service. Jail here is usually reserved for the criminals!
Damn the municipal center and the bank in the same building @ 5:41 😂
"I'm not gonna mess up my bricks!" get em, mama 😎
"If you go to court you will lose your job"? that is another problem and injustice in itself!! the enslaved mind is horrible.
What the hell? You stop poor people and fine them to incarcerate them for the purposes of FREE labor!! He was seriously trying to play that "WHY" card.
I doubt his boss told him that. The boss probably refused to give him time off to go to the hearing. I'd like to know what the court said after the gentleman told them he wasn't going to be able to attend and he requested a different date?
There is no Justice in America for poor people.
poor n black mostly
There’s no justice in America period. This country built by criminals.
Very true !
Omar Khaled you are right. Its an economic problem not a race issue.
@@julioalcantera9520 true but it does also have to do with race as well you cannot say it does not have to do with race when black people are more likely to get pulled over and ticketed.
Thanks for explosing St. Louis. I was raised out there.
There was an American who moved to Norway said in a comment that after moving to Norway they realized that everyday in America felt like an injustice.
Being poor is not a crime! Nobody should be locked up for not having money!!!
In Western culture it's a crime to be poor
@Bharmony They are not being looked up for being broke, they are being looked up, for breaking the law.
@BLUE DOG What have you been smoking ? That's some really strong stuff. No one is trying to steal melanin, you have watched a little too much Phil Valentine.
It's modern day slavery not sure why its so hard to see
@@lauraann5185 No it's criminals getting punished.
And the police wonder why we the people don’t like cops.
yancy Derringer damn that’s hardcore messed up.
Madness .. get organized and change it.
I don’t think they wonder anymore. They have to know by now. They my act stupid but cops aren’t that stupid. They just don’t care anymore as our anger and frustration is their ammunition to keep locking “unruly” people up.
Its the system. Cops are the law enforcement arm of this racist white supremacist SYSTEM!
The colloquial term is pigs
Great report.
"who paints them kinda bricks?!" 💀💀💀💀
"If the cities want to make money why do they only pull over poor people?" ... because people of means would fight the tickets (and win). Poor people will roll over because they can't afford to win. I can't believe that dude is a judge...
these dumb black live matters protesters should really really think about their agenda.. it should be poor lives matter
+phildev right on
Tom St Denis He actually said "poor black people". Shm!! You made an excellent point!
This JUDGE should be reprimanded and fined.
Exactly. They know better to do these petty enforcements on somebody with resources. Because those people can fight back. It's easy to pick on the powerless
VICE examines the ways these local governments have turned broken-windows policing into profit, and meets the people who are fighting back.
*WATCH NEXT*: _Inside America's For-Profit Bail System_ - bit.ly/2bvBkus
+DeOrangeAlligator The music? I think they already have one on Noisy.
+Wallace E great point
+Wallace E I agree.
Well murica you gonna make the worl a better place fo sure
+Hu Kares
gtf weirdo
"You ain't finna mess wIth my bricks" hahaha best part!!
This is how the system work, this is how the judges, police, city officials get payed
Man how did you get into jail
Other due I mudered someone, you
Man my grass grew to high
Lmfao
@BLUE DOG .....The rich including the politicians will have the resources to relocate to areas in which the poor won't be able to reach.
@BLUE DOG Eat the rich!!! Eat the rich!! Bite down on that son of a bitch!! -Motorhead.
Seriously, if you're a meat eater (I'm a vegetarian), think about it-free range, GradeA, non GMO fed meat. They should worry.
@@karenskinner9044 I made a joke and it got political damn....
When you own a property or house noone should have anything to say how you should keep it
You don't own nothing
@@michaelgray1803 You don't 'anything'
Just keep the grass cut and trash picked up
@@godisblackmatter7844 the length of my lawn is my business, not yours.
This right here... this is systemic.
This is unbelievable, horrible, shocking and profoundly sad.
Judge Michael Gunn, you're part of the Problem
@Ron Ryan bought off by prison industry complex
Well take care if him
Not PART of the problem. He is the problem. Shameful attitude. Yes they "broke the law" but what kind of law is that?
How you have a "Bank of America" & court in the same building? SMFH
davids myname Good observation
Part of the corruptions.
Damn good question!!!
That's just nasty
So you can withdraw your fine. That court only took Cash and money orders smh
You're not funa mess up my bricks... LOOOOOOL
Enough said when the courts right beside the bank, it speaks for itself!!
Once you are in the system it's almost impossible to get out
Get out of America and
Get out of America really ? Have you check out other countries? What we need to do for low to lower middle class is really to set up a group to real fight these type of things. I do believe jail and prison is a money maker and I do believe if you step on certain people toes like government, school system etc they play dirty and will teach you a lesson for doing so. In any system it will make your life a living hell. Situation like these to me isn't a race thing its a class thing. That's why we need to come together to fight these kind of bull shit. I believe they use the word racism to keep us separated and by doing this it keeps us a part now I'm not saying there isn't some racism but no where near what is being played. I know some people are mad that I said that and not trying to make any mad just being honest with what I see. When I see happen with whites too like Starbucks etc it has nothing to do with race! That being said, I just think we should open the conversation and see what we can do to opening it up and come together cuz with less means we have to tackle our problems and be heard in a different way and fight it together. Were all slaves to the government and our bosses and some are slaves to people attitudes and some to money. This country is beat or the same with Canada, England etc they have the same. Please people are people no matter where a person go. The poorer you are the more you seem to be taken advantage of, not fair but true. So I'm just saying lets open the conversation. Power is when we come together and tackle it together. Hearing each other stories will help us to decide what and the how's to start making change! True change!
It's the same shit almost everywhere i live in canada and went to jail a few times for unpaid tickets i preffered doing 15 days then having to pay 15k in tickets.
This is just evil. How in the world is someone supposed to go further in life if a system like this is in place.
Don’t break the law, that simple
@@phoebelee55 don't live in a country where there is prison for profit. Simple. If you're a billionaire it's easier to live in america but if you're lower middle class or below, Europe is better.
Stop discussing the issue and do something about it
@@phoebelee55 are you stupid??? Did you see the stupid, pointless ordinances and laws these municipalities have, to extort money? Mismatched blinds, chipped paint, tall grass, paint your garage??? Not to mention the cognitive deficiencies kids grow up in, living in poverty, poison water, bad infrastructure, violence everywhere, trauma. Entire generations of kids grow up being poisoned by lead water, leading to permanent cognitive problems. I could go on all day about the endless factors, that contribute to ppl committing crimes.
@@phoebelee55 I really hope you are joking? That was probably the most simpleminded, ignorant, cold, heartless, comment one could make!
Man watching that family talking about their lost son was devastating we have to do something against these criminals they take the money to”fix the road” then the roads remain delapitated the same thing happens in Colorado and they get pot revenue to steal as well there has to be an end to this corruption
" Now I'm getting mad. Everyone knows about my bamboo."
The founding fathers warned us in just about every way they could about this--->If, as a people, you don't preserve and protect your rights, they Will be taken from you from those in positions of unchecked power
What they been doing this shit since the Egyptian & Roman days.
@@wolverinelogan9430 That is correct, humans in positions of unchecked power have been taking advantage of other humans for as long as civilization has existed
I honestly think voting for presidents and governments is an outdated system of itself that doesn't scale well in the 21st century. I think society will be better as a Anarcho-Capitalist system.
In a true Democracy, citizens have a say in laws that are created. Most laws aren't passed based on the votes of citizens, but are passed based on the votes of wealthy politicians that don't know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck and have the cost of living higher than what their income could afford.
Then Democrats wonder why people don't want to give up their guns.
America needs to pull its head in. This is sad, yet disgusting. No wonder people are standing up and fighting back.
who should the anger be directed to ? the legislators? police? city officials?
+Inner G all of them who sat idle and watched this happend
+Conor O "their kind" your rebuttal card is immediately revoked
who the fuck here thinks shooting cops while they get coffee is a good idea? fantastic strawman bro
+Conor O What do you call shooting innocent unarmed people that surrender, while on their back, with their hands up? What about the countless children that were shot?
I would totally move. Tx can be kinda bad at times but I never experienced anything like this. The way they laid that kid on the jail room floor and took a pic is heart breaking.
8:40 Maybe because you’re primarily targeting poor citizens with barely enough means to live on, let alone fatten your pockets. In order to keep inner city black families impoverished this is just one example of how the system operates.
Economic Slavery is Live and Well !!
STOP DEALING DRUGS AND/OR ROBBING PEOPLE.
@dez Jours I've done none of those in my life, I have nothing to apologize for, or cry over. ..do you?
That is what u get when u vote Democrat.
I just call it social slavery.
That's what the powers that be are trying to design: "freedom" (here's a hint: bullshit) at the cost of social slavery. You will be "free" as long as you "fall in line".
@dez Jours Wow, I actually agree with you here. But your comments on 9/11 are really fucked up.
R.I.P CHARLES ANTHONY CHATMAN JR. 😔 SUCH A SAD STORY.
Wow. this is absolutely crazy.
I was in a rural county courtroom in North Carolina (I think Gates) and a black woman went before the judge. The woman was bouncy & upbeat. The judge said ‘well Ms. So-N-So you paying or being detained’. The woman cheerfully said ‘I’m ready to do my 3 days judge cuz I don’t have no money’. She was so resigned to her fate she damn near cuffed herself. I sat in utter astonishment.
Im a Constitutionalist from PA and this makes me cry. People are gonna rise up soon and their will be A Second Revolutionary War.
I b there
Resistance groups are already forming.
@LadyGaGa is hot No its not. When's the last time you read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or even the Declaration of Independence?
The Constitution isnt the problem, the problem is there isnt anyone holding people in power accountable. It happens within any system, even in anarchy.
Id like to vote to bring the government back from 150 years ago (we can keep the "progress" of civil rights). I dont like any politician or public servant running, there isnt a single constitutionalist or person that actually cares for the Constitution. They all seem power hungry, dismissing those checks and balances, and infringing or taxing where ever they can. Trump is definitely better than anyone else running but thats pretty blight when you put him up against the Founders or presidents that came shortly after. No one seems to care about Liberty, Freedom, or our communities anymore. Trump cares about business and the economy but he's been trying to appease the Dem's alot lately and it worries me. They wont vote for him, they hate him, and we get no where.
What we need is organized marches and the forceful removal of Oath Breakers, remind them that they serve us and not themselves or their own. Without that lingering fear of the citizens, this is where we end up- total tyrants in office (Im not talking about Trump). We need to remove every politician (especially Dual Citizenship Officials) that does not align with the Constitution, the way it was meant to be read using the terms and definitions of the period it was written....not the "interpretations" they believe we should see it as...it's as clear as glass on what it stands for and what it outlines. All of the politicians on the news today are against the Constitution and have broken their Oath in one aspect or another and they should be unseated for it. Those like Feinstein, Pelosi, Schumer, and the other Anti-Gun/Anti-Freedom Politicians should be jailed for Sedition for repeatedly proposing Unjust Laws - criminalizing the Citizenry and leaving them defenseless against criminals and Government.
If the Constitution isn't "set in stone" than neither are your Rights and if its not taken seriously than we are all in trouble...like the trouble we see constantly today and it will not be very long until the majority of people grow tired of it and say "enough is enough" and take up arms. This is why they are trying to restrict, regulate, and tax the crap out of anything that gives the population any chance against the increasingly Authoritarian/Tyrannical Government today.
What I am advocate for is severely limiting and reducing the size of Government, reigning back its power and give it back to the communities. Allowing people to use their money they earned how they like, people need help but people have been programmed by social engineering to be narcissistic and self absorbed, if this social engineering can be reverse we wouldnt need mandatory programs to help others...we would do it because it is self satisfying and brings the community together...like it used to be.
People used to get along just fine and communities would raise funds for people that needed it and then help them get jobs/solve problems, today's social systems do not fix anything - they keep those people in the same spot barely surviving while everyone is extorted of their incomes without consent.
Big Government, Corporations, Politicians and organizations dividing the people to gather votes - fracturing the thought process/critical thinking skills and trading them for tribal behaviors. People are far more immature, ignorant, and dependent because of the Government Nanny State and the Party Paradigm. Government has destroyed the Communities and the bond of neighbors. Government is nothing more than a dangerous religion today, your faith in it is so strong that you will easily disregard your responsibility as a person and give it to others - showing that you feel that people hold a higher authority over your life than you do.
How often do you have interactions with the Government? Unless your living on welfare or deal with the courts your likely not heavily involved with or have relations with Government. How do you survive without them telling you how to behave or act during the day??? You do realize that everything we have today was set in motion from individuals of anarchy right?
The rules are already administered within the Constitution and the Golden Rule. Right and wrong are self evident, natural and can easily be deciphered through cause and effect. All "wrong" things have a negative reaction, this is what classifies them as "wrong".
Theft, Assault, Murder, Extortion, Robbery and the other basic crimes are the only thing that should be held against people....there isnt much else to legislate against aside from criminalizing people that have no criminal intent.
The Constitution is closer to anarchy than what we have today, we are worse off than ever, a criminal body disguised as elite government officials creating legislation to extort and criminalize the people they are supposed to represent.
Bad (immoral) actions are bad because they're bad. What makes an immoral action negative is its negative consequence, but that consequence is an inherent part of the action within a particular set of circumstances. All Im really saying here is that actions with bad consequences have bad consequences. Morality is just a description of reality; it adds no new content. It's not another level of qualification, and it requires no external source, be it divine or cultural. The moral nature of an action is a factual description of the action itself.
Immoral action is defined by its context, which includes its consequences. If I take a cookie from you, this action may be moral or immoral depending on whether you gave your consent to my taking it. The action of cookie-taking is neutral, but when performed within a certain set of circumstances, the consequences can be quite different. The only thing that makes one such cookie-taking immoral (theft) and the other moral (graciously receiving a gift) is the negative consequence.
The negative consequence of all immoral action is the creation of an environment that inhibits the authentic expression of the being in question. In other words, immoral actions do not permit full expression of man's free-will autonomy, which is inherent to his nature. This is what defines the action as immoral. The action does not duly acknowledge the reality of the being. It is a denial of truth. It is a lie.
So immorality is simply acting out of accord with truth - of course this will have negative practical consequences (just like ignoring the heat of a hot stove, or the immutable effects of gravity). More importantly, the immoral action is itself a negative, being an action inspired by error. We do not need to understand some complex chain of causality to see this. There is no leap to make. We need not understand anything more complex than "A is A" to see that morality (acting in accord with truth) is an absolute imperative under any and all circumstances, and that immoral action can never be prudent, desirable, or necessary.
Government cannot give you anything unless it has taken it from you beforehand, it is force being used against others for the benefit of a small group, nothing more. Government isnt a good thing and it boggles my mind why anyone would want more of it, every problem we have today stems from government. We have jumped away from the Constitution and how the Government was supposed to function and turned it into a nanny state/police state and everyone is miserable because of it.
You are only responsible for yourself and your family, police have no obligation to protect you (DeShaney v. Winnebago County) and taking care of others outside of your family should only be voluntary. Government should not extort the population of their own hard earned monies to give to others, it should be a voluntary system. Government should be reduced drastically and people should govern their own actions like you do during your daily routine...no one needs Government telling them whats okay, whats not, what they can or can not have or what they can or can not do....that's what being an Adult is. I do not need a "ruler" and no one holds a higher authority over my own life than I do.
Not if the technocratic police state becomes fully operational. It's already 80% there. Now you got Trump talking about a "surge".
Y'all are running out of time.
@Louise Severn I think the founding fathers had too much faith in humanity. They didn't build in any fail safe whatsoever. Sure we can vote but both the left and right serve the capitalist corporations who profit off the poor.
We need someone who's independent who won't get into bed with the bankers or courts or corporations. Except that'll never happen as they'll probably be Assasinate- I mean suicided.
"You not finna mess up my bricks!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣makes sense to me too sista!
Painting brick is stupid.
The man at 4:39 sounds like Mike Epps I left my phone an thought it was a interview wit Mike Epps lol
I was in debt to the OC Courts in California through my twenty's. These tickets are expensive out here!
The jail system in the south is all kinds of messed up. In Texas, you are charged as an adult at 17. Only 6 days after my 17th birthday , I was getting a ride home from a party, from a friend who had a couple grams of pot in his pocket. We were pulled over and they took us to the back of the car separately to question us. I didn't know anything about any pot so when they asked me about it, I said I didn't know. BOOM, they slammed me against the back of the car and start to put cuffs on. They do not read me my rights. The driver and I are both charged for his pot. I get sent to jail, I don't have bail money so i miss the beginning of my senior year in high school. My family freaks out and kicks me out. ( I was living with my grandparents, my parents had drug issues, hence the freak out) So now I'm homeless and cant afford to even attend my senior year. I didn't have money for books, pencils, paper, backpack, food , anything. So I'm sleeping on various friends couches, working a full time minimum wage job to pay back the state for the crime i didn't commit. They charged me with a $3,000 fine, 1 year probation, which comes with probation fees in the hundreds of dollars. And to top it all off, the county was getting extra scandalous by hiring these, now deemed illegal, counseling centers. It went something like this. In court they say, you have to attend ECCC , ellis county counseling centers, Or we'll put you back in jail. Keep in mind I just turned 17 this is all terrifying to me. So I go to the counseling center. There is a $180 fee up top. Then I am asked to fill out a questionnaire of about 200 questions. Afterwards a counselor takes me to a back room and says they reviewed my evaluation, but they don't believe me. She then proceeds to tell me I Likely have a heroine or methamphetamine addiction and that the state deems i need severe counseling. They recommend, 3 classes per week at $50-75 per class for several weeks. Its crazy the amount of money they want to extort out of me. So eventually it got so bad i had to flee the state on my misdemeanor probation. I went to California for a handful of years to live with a relative, and when I returned I was able to serve my sentence in a county jail and get everything correct with the state. HOWEVER, I still maintain that I was innocent in the first place, and they extorted thousands of dollars out of me and my family and got me kicked out of my house and forced me to drop out of high school. This shit really does ruin lives. Take it from me.
Nicolis Clark homeless yet have a phone to type this out on. Don't break the law.
they said you had a meth problem based off a questionnaire? bs
Nicolis Clark they do the same thing in the north! except here it's called CATHOLIC CHARITIES! which is strange because you have to pay and pay!! once they know it's court ordered you fucked and they will drain every Penney they can from you!
Nicolis Clark God bless you. The state gave you an education that no one wants. I hope you're still an overcomer...
N god you "don't break the law" people really are about as dumb as they get. He clearly states this was years ago and he has since resolved the issue with the courts. So dumb......
Alright. Some of the fines, like needing to paint that garage for instance, seemed pretty excessive. However, fines for traffic violations or expired plates are pretty normal anywhere. If they wanted to fix the system, maybe put the people who can't pay into community service rather than stacking on more debt. Idk just an idea.
That would still be unfair to those that can't pay. If you break the law the repurcussions should be the same across the board if you're rich or poor.
It's a small town. Don't you think most people are aware of the speed "traps"? I bet police just pull people over randomly at this point. It's not like you could ever prove against a cop anyway. Whatever a cop says you did is just assumed to be correct nowadays.
Simple, use a dashcam. Video proof is an easy way to get out of a ticket in court if you were doing nothing wrong.
Ms0, Unless you want to put forward an idea that's better than mine, your critique of my idea holds no value. Simply shutting down ideas others have gets us nowhere if you can't put a better one forward yourself.
God Gabe I just said my solution. Make the repercussions the same. Another solution is making payment plans.
"Everyone know about my Bamboo" "You not going to mess up my bricks" GOLD! =P
Thanks to vice news for exposing such news whereas other news companies showing all the good things about america
Why the fuck does a city fine you in America for chipped paint, blinds, BBQ's, uncut grass on your property? What's wrong with your country?
I live in Cali, I haven't heard of anyone getting fined for that.
governments and private corporations get paid to keep people in jail. If there was no money in it, they wouldn't waste their time. The stats at the beginning showed that some municipalities make 30% of their budget from fines. They may not get cash from everyone, but what they do collect is profitable. And if the person fined does not pay, the government still gets to collect by keeping them in jail.
+ClassicDoc they still profit because some people actually pay. and they never said only blacks get fine they said its mostly all black. its a way to keep poor people in debt and then lock them up the state gets more money for putting u in jail from the federal government than they would if u paid the 200$ fine. it keeps
+slackjaw yep. gotta love capitalism .
There are no white people to leech off of so the local govt is getting creative with fund raising.
If you only knew. There are less police stops in High end areas. I live near a wealthy area in Texas and Anytime I go out to the wealthy neighborhood areas you may see a cop once a week. Anytime your in a run down area you see them every day multiple times a day.
Zepherius Cole live here in Bryan Texas. It's true
Zepherius Cole Isn’t that what you’d want tho? If it was the other way around then everyone be bitching about how the cops only serving the rich! If I lived in a run-down area, assuming it’s a higher crime area too, I’d certainly feel a little safer seeing a larger police presence. Btw, I’m not trying to start an argument or anything....I’m just trying to understand why lots of cops in a run-down area is not a good thing.
No because they are reinstating debtors prisons therefore inducting people in the slums into it because the people in the slums can't afford much. It's creating more of a Police State rather than fixing any problems.
It's a fact. There are maps where I live in Little Rock of the zones where income is based. When you drive through those areas where people drive even worse than a poor person, no cops in sight.
Go over to my hood and they are on every corner just waiting to pull anyone over for anything like a headlight out. I make 9k a year. I can't afford a ticket for having a headlight out. I can't even really afford the bulb so I try not to drive near dusk or dawn due to laws about lights which hardly anyone knows its a law to have them on 30 mins prior. You literally have to sit down and read every single law to find out what you could be doing wrong. Even a cracked taillight can be a ticket. It's fucking petty but the system makes more money when you are jailed. They absolutely target poor people. And while I am not a person of color, it's far worse for them.
*P.S. I was crying my ass off for the parents of the young man who hung himself* one can only take so much pressure in life so it's a relatable feeling in a way which is scary to me. I have had to be homeless for months to pay fines because I am a single mom with no family and little income (i am 100% Disabled with PTSD and other things) therefore I cannot be in jail because I can't leave my kid alone for an extended amount of time then get charged for that too nor could I mentally handle jail.
One must sacrifice for their own circumstances I suppose.
The American Dream is a joke. Our society is brainwashed into not taking more action against things that are truly wrong and corruption is a money maker. That's exactly why people worship money. It gives them more power over the rest of "U.S."
@@jhowever9126 - You shouldn't be mad at the police. You should be angry at your employer for paying you less than minimum wage. That shit is illegal.
Yup they do this in Michigan too, happened to me 2 days before Christmas last year.
Anthony was such a cute kid. His parents seem so kind. Rest his soul
Debtor's prison was supposed to have been outlawed in the 1800s...
Adam Martin yea so was slavery, still happens though
Adam Martin I see you watched the video.
Child Support in Texas is a % Rate of Salary, from 20% - 65%!!!,
#ItsTheLaW!
So either way, with Ticlet/ citations, or Any type of Creative way they can come up with, it seems to me it All about Control.
1833..
Yeah, right. Debtor's prisons became constitutionally protected at the end of the US civil war with the 13th Amendment. It didn't abolish slavery if you read it: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, *except as a punishment for crime* ..."
It's expensive being poor.
It's been like that, this shit ain't gonna change
+Rod right because having mismatch blinds is so detrimental to society lol..foh boy
+Rod Yeah but the whole point is if the laws are unconstitutional, you aren't free. I'm not a liberal by any means, but I ain't a dumbass conservative either who thinks just follow the law and the police and our government knows best. Fucking sheep. They just herd bitches like you around however they want, and now it's too late to do anything about it.
We need this justice system hear in the uk
In Little Rock, inmates upon release are presented a big bill for jail room and board.
This needs to be seen and addressed everywhere by the attorney general of the United States of America right now.
How about we don’t have someone called the attorney general anymore. Governments just cause problems, they don’t really solve any at the end of the day
Yea right. Keep dreaming lol
this is a perfect example of evil. people who want to be in charge of other people, CAN NEVER BE TRUSTED.
This is not the only state that has debtors prison. Massachusetts has it also. If you can't pay your credit card bills in Massachusetts, they issue something called a capias warrant and take you in to custody immediately.
That was emotional
As a UK Police Officer....I would hate to be an Officer in the States, you’re basically a debt collector in uniform. Ridiculous and embarrassing!
Do cops in the UK have guns or tasers?
Tell the queen to suck a fat one.....lol
@@muffychao2373 only armed response units have weapons,regular police not.They are being trained in the use of tasers just now,UK POLICE ARE NO LONGER WHAT YOU WOULD CALL POLICE ,THEY ARE A BUNCH OF COMMON PURPOSE FOOLS,MORE INTERESTED IN BEING INCLUSIVE WEARING HIGH HEELS AND NAIL VARNISH AT THE PRIDE MARCH AND THATS THE MEN!
Do not worry our day of reckoning is very near. And the rest of the world will get to sit back and watch! All these poor immigrants are going to wish they never stepped foot on this soil!
@@muffychao2373 No guns
I live in Mass an I had 4 state troopers and 1 us federal Marshall to put me in jail for $40.
Dame sorry that happened to you :(
Massholes!
The U.S. Criminal Justice System aka Revenue Junkies....lol
"I fear I've integrated my people into a burning house"
Martin Luther King Jr.
4:15 A few years back my local PD started pulling some BS like this. As soon as spring comes, they'll wait for a really rainy week, and then go out at 6:00 A.M. on Saturday morning to ticket anyone that has "long grass." They know the homeowners were likely unable to mow it during the week due to work/weather; so they make sure they're there bright and early Saturday before anyone can get it done. (You can't even mow your grass until 8:30 A.M. on Saturdays so unless it was done by Friday evening you were screwed.)
Funny enough, the homes of police officers and their friends/family seem to be exempt from these requirements. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
a victim of monthly payments or go to jail. my crime, being a disabled vet.
The government gives you a disability check every month. Up to 3K if you're 100%. What do you owe on?
I’m sorry brother there is no excuse for this type of struggle remain strong the world needs you to drink water and take a knee
Jo S it doesn’t matter how he spends his money the fact remains that he shouldn’t have to pay countless fines for trivial stuff his disability check only goes so far
No freedom censored you are a part of the problem
Talkin Cuh???
This is sick how people are being treated!
Is there an update on these predatory cities? Is there any recourse? What can I do to help?
Tragedies are extra tragic when perpetrated by government