I like the current Accord design much better than the Camry. It looks much more upscale. At least you get alloy wheels on the LX, vs wheel covers on the LE Camry. We won't mention grilles. I do wish both cars offered LED or xenon headlights on all levels and not just their top end V6 models.
@jamie , I won't disagree with you but when you drive both cars , you might have different opinion. Camry is quieter, smoother & more reliable and has better interior. The 2018 camry is going to look dashing btw ;)
Jamie E the new 2018 styling changes the game I think. Current gen is not very attractive in either car to me but 2018 Camry X models bring some Lexus styling that make them very attractive.
SSHADOW2: I have seen the "proposed" 2018 Camry images online but those photos may not depict the actual Camry products that will be sold to the public beginning this fall. And still HATE those AWFUL looking front grills on the Camrys and Lexus cars. Anyhow, we will see what Honda and Toyota come up with in the fall with their newly redesigned models.
I got the Camry anyway because of the base Honda CVT. I'll never drive with one of those if I can help it. More mpg's but it's like driving a vacuum cleaner. Honda is not known for transmissions either. It's a motor company. Good luck if you have issues with the CVT because they are nearly impossible to fix. The Camry has been using the same format 6 speed auto and has the best in class transmission reliability. There's more to this story than just number values.
Mine worry is the cvt transmission in 2017 accord. Any problems. How often do change the transmission oil. Also, any issues with engine oil smelling like gasoline. Or the pcv valve causing valve cover gasket leak?
Simtube S. I totally agree, CVT aren’t built to last as long as naturally aspirated engines. That’s why I bought the 2015 V6 Accord. That’s a really nice running car! Second best running vehicle out of about 30 I’ve owned. (a 2003 twin turbo Volvo was better but always in the shop). My daughter wants to buy a new Civic and I’m trying to persuade her to get a used 2017 Accord so she won’t have a CVT in her car.
@@Fine39XMEN from my understanding the 13-17 accord have cvt as standard unless it is a v6, i am not sure about hybrids (if they are even in line up, it depends on year). The 2017 one i got was shifting funny (cvt transmission). I test drove other ones including one i had as a loaner - none seam to have the same issue. Mind u i bought used. It was 17 lx sedan with little over 50k. Last person that had it didnt reset mpg stats for over 35k. That stat showed less than 8mpg. I put mpg and tranny together (probably previous owner was a heavy on gas pedal), i decided not to take chances. Now honda cvts are in house unlike subura, nissan and other Japanese makes that use a 3rd party supplier that are know for issues. I am sure if you are regular to easy drivers those accord cvts should last u a long while (just change transmission fluid more often and with one strictly honda genuine transmission fluid). Besides what i mentioned in previous comment about other problems to watch out for (pvc valve causing oils pressure to cause valve cover leaks and gasoline smell in oil), good luck.
Great breakdown Dave. I like the fact that you not only have vehicle reviews, test drives, etc.. But also evolve with the times, as far as auto review channels throughout social media are concerned.
I'll take an Accord any day over the camry. The styling, power, technology, and that wonderful honda uniqueness. Definitely more bang for your buck and doesn't look like a mom or dad car with the new styling
DAVE: Thanks so much for sharing! Very interesting comparing the two! My current car is a 1998 Camry that I have owned for almost 20 years. It has only 135K miles on it and has been the MOST RELIABLE car that I have ever owned for the longest time. But the car before that was a 1986 Accord and I had that for 11 years and 120K miles and it was also VERY reliable. But now, I am considering going back to a Honda Accord with the Sport model. Most online reviews have been positive on that car, though some complain that the Hondas rattle a lot as time goes on and that the 19" wheels on the Sport and Touring models give a bumpy ride over time. Anyhow, I think the new Accords look MUCH better than the new Camrys with the UGLY front grills on the latter cars.
DEVONJOKER83: While my Camry has been VERY reliable over the years, it does NOT handle nearly as well as my Accord did and the Camry has had more than its share of non-engine parts breaking which has been VERY frustrating for me. Even the exterior driver's side door handle broke!!! YIKES!!! But I still LOVE the car overall. Anyhow, Dave's comparison above is interesting and puts the Accord ahead of the Camry. But to each their own when it comes to favorite brands.
Great presentation, Dave. FYI - I have a 2011 Accord LX - driven for 6 years, 43,400 miles. It's been terrific in every aspect but one: road noise & engine noise during acceleration. I'm pretty sure that Camry is better in that dept., so I'll probably switch when my loan note is up, in 2 years. Aesthetically, both cars look fine.
WesternNY I drove both camry and accord before buying a Honda Accord sport in red color. It was only Honda that was closest to camry as far as being quiet. Camry is still more quiet but not that much .
Great comparison, Professor Dave! You should have pointed out that the Accord also comes in two body styles; 4-door and 2-door. The current Accord and Camry are both very similar. Easy to see how they are always fighting each other for top spots each year for awards and so forth.
Of course Dave! You deserve it! I've been watching your videos from the start- just recently made a UA-cam account so I could comment. But you're doing a great job and one day I want to be like you! I'm still in college and I'm on track to med school but cars are in my blood and I'll never forget them.
Very interesting. I like these comparisons (even if only the Honda is available in my country). But anything to do with cars interests me and these are cool videos. Thanks Dave.
Dave, I had few Tototas and Hondas. I think that the latest Camry is a better car than the Accord. It feels more sure footed on the road and the real gas mileage is better than that on the Accord. Honda tends to overstate fuel economy. Toyota beats the EPA estimate. I would suggest that people pay attention on how comfortable the sits are, which is very important on long trips and how noisy it gets on the highway. I also like to have a car that has some pooling from 40 - 70 miles, good brakes, and overall crash safety.
Yasen Angelov I test drove a Camry before deciding on an ACCORD SPORT. I thought the camry SE was not as nice looking as the Acord Sport. The Accord was very quiet though. Comparing the two I found the Accord was acceptable and the 19 inch wheels were much nicer than the Camry's. For me anyway, the gas mileage wasn't as important in comparing the two.
I have disagree about Honda's MPG ratings, at least in my experience. The current generation V6 models are rated at 21/33/25, but in my 2015 EX-L V6, I'd easily get around 25-26 around town, and between 36-38 on primarily highway driving, with around 28-30 being my average between tanks. I don't drive hard by any means but I also typically drive ~5-10mph over the speed limit depending on traffic flow. The same is true for the 2017 V6 Touring I have now, though I'm getting 1mpg or so lower, but I expect that to improve as the engine continues to break in, as it hasn't even hit 500 miles yet. The 2015 improved over time as well from the time I bought it new.
Yes, I'd have to agree with you on trim levels. I'm not sure people really care about how many trim levels there are. However, I did find it interesting to see the price spread. There was quite a difference in price between a fully loaded Accord and Camry. What extra features does one get for the extra cost? Not sure if you have the room to fit that in. Your white board is getting pretty full as it is. In regards to wheelbase, I personally like this detail. It's a good indicator how well a car might ride. Keep in mind that I'm a detail nut so wheelbase just makes me think about weight distribution and the turning circle radius for U turns. Bigger white board? Two? ;) Sorry, not sure if I was much help?
The pricing comparison is a bit off, in that the Honda Accord trim line packages are pretty complete, but by the time you add the same features to the Toyota Camry, it is actually much more expensive than shown on the whiteboard, so pricing wise, these end up very close, in some upper configurations (full features), the Camry will be more expensive.
High end model prices are really a lot closer when comparably equipped. With Accord the highest trim is a separate model that comes with everything, but the top trim Camry still needs packages added to the price before it is a comparably equipped car. I have a Camry Hybrid and love it, but if I was buying right now I would get an Accord.
I like hondas and i think last 2 generation accords look amazing compared to camrys but based on my experience taking uber/lyft in those cars i feel like camrys have much smoother more comfortable ride. is it just me or ?
I like both cars and will purchase one in the near future. Consumer reports said that the new accord isn't reliable so now I, leaning more towards the Camry even though I probably like the accord better.
Great video, I pick the accord because it's the only one that is available in manual, cvt get better mpg but aren't that reliable, specially if you plan on keeping your car for a long time.
Hey Professor Dave great breakdown...the only details you might expand on: is the interior technology. I've heard the Camry Entune infotainment system is hard to use. Toyota's GPS scout system, not accepting your Andriods apps...are common problems and have been deal breakers along with after the fact dissatisfied Camry buyers. Would like to hear your personal thoughts. Thank you sir.
Great comparison. Looking at both in the used market for 2017. Wondering how they compare to the 2017 Lexus IS. FWIW, disappointed to see that 2018 models no longer offer the V6 trim.
Good stuff! I definitely choose the Accord. Just as reliable as the Camry, and cheaper, all while not sacrificing the styling. The new Accords looks AMAZING! The Toyota looks really outdated, and that grille...
Dave if possible compare safety systems say between your accord and camry which models offer and which models do not offer certain safety features. Maybe in general what you are hearing in the industry pros and cons. Keep up the good work.
CVT Transmissions are proving to be not reliable (complaints all over.) I'd wait a few years to see how this turns out before buying any car with a CVT.
It's interesting because only the Toyota Prius and the Corolla are recommended if your buying a car with a CVT. Hondas are not known to have good transmission reliability. A lot of people will overlook this. Good luck fixing a CVT, they generally replace the system and it'll probably be out of warranty by then.
We ended up w/2017 Camry SE b/c the Honda's were 3 to $5k more w/same miles (30k). I wanted a Honda Accord Sport but found the SE Camry for around $16k which was as low as I could find one. So far so good. Can't complain.
After Width and Length. I would like to know wheelbase. That matters more in handling than overall length and width. I know I am being picky on an excellent video. Just my two cents!
Thanks Dave... I don't mind when you do it but the new Odyssey is coming out in the spring (I don't know about the sienna) so you should probably do it later when more info comes out. At the end of the day it is up to you but in any scenario I have to thank you for taking my idea into consideration. Good Luck, Jim
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Professor Dave, I would also be considering phone integration (Android Auto/Apple Car Play) aspect in your comparisons, since it makes a huge impact. It is like bringing brains to the vehicle! Camry is dumb - its interface with the driver is stale and yesteryear. It simply drives reliably. Honda with Android Auto turns into your personal assistant while you are driving. It answers not just your simple navigation requests, but talks to you about the weather, gives definitions to words, answers questions on political news, adds items to your shopping list via voice, reads incoming messages to you and sends replies via your voice and LOTS more! HUGE difference, my friend! You are talking to your car and she responds in a very smart way. When buying my car last year I did not even consider vehicles without Android Auto/Apple Car Play integration, because it would be like buying a computer model with specs of 10 years ago....
I bought a 2017 Camry LE and I love it, I'm not much into the Accord vs Camry war, We bought our first Toyota in 1968 a Corolla so it's brand loyalty for me. enjoy your Camry or Accord both very good cars.
I own a Honda Accord 2013 Lx auto, this is the basic model. For the last 48 months, my average stop and go NYC driving is at best 25 to 26 MPG. On the highway, my car has traveled to Florida and the best mileage I achieve was 41MPG. I do not bother to use the ECO mode as I personally think it is a useless feature. Overall a very reliable car and very mucha low maintenance automobile. I would be inclined to buying a Sport model or a EX-no leather as my next car.
It would be cool to compare Hyundai Sonata vs another mid-size sedan, like Nissan Altima or Ford Fusion... I test drove extensively all of them and ended up with... :) Curious to hear YOUR outcomes. :)
Nope. Not Camry - it is not tech advanced. I do have 2 Camry's in the family and I drove 2 more Camry's for 17 years. They are getting behind other manufactures in terms of modern technologies and Toyota keeps making the same old appliances with incremental upgrades. They ARE extremely reliable - once you got one, it is difficult to get rid of it: it goes and goes.
Oops... You missed again, Professor Dave! :) Here, check my review "Above Competition" on Edmunds: www.edmunds.com/hyundai/sonata/2016/st-401575701/consumer-reviews/pg-1/?sorting=CONFIDENCE
Andrei Strukov So you went with th with the Hyundai Sonata good luck with the car. Myself I've never had good luck with Hyundai I had a 2014 Elantra gls and nothing but problems with the car.For me personally fuck Hyundai I'll never go back to that brand ever again I'll stick with the domestic automakers.
I have a Honda Accord 2008. and yes the Accord is better on paper. but i have some gripes about it. road noise: the Accord is louder on the road. you can pretty much hear everything. paint quality/rust: the paint is starting to come apart from around the rear window. and the car is rusting around the rear fender. and yes I know the car is 9 years old. but I compared my car with Camrys same year and similar mileage. and the Camry doesn't have these problems. so hopefully Honda corrected these issues with the newer models.
@@everymandriveri first saw it yestarday..iv learned alot from the video reason why im curious to know about the V6 engines of both vehicles. Where i live Nigeria fuel is expensive and alot of people avoid v6 engines. But i was told thst V6 engines of mordern cars have good fuel mileage.
I find that there's a serious bias from most auto commenters. Everyone here is somehow worried about the CVT in the Honda but when you go to Toyota corolla's reviews, there's absolutely no concern for whether it will break down prematurely even though it has a CVT transmission as well. You don't see anyone bitching about the CVT transmission on the corollas or cast doubts on the reliability as a result of it. But you see people bitching about Hondas for having CVTs even when it is a known fact that Honda has the best and most reliable CVT transmission in the auto industry, even superior to Toyota's! It's crazy.
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hoda accord is a lot better than cheap Camry , honda is made in USA and there is allot things in honda better than camry , Interior materials are of solid quality compared to the best in the class, and it's all screwed together so well that it feels like it'll last for 100 years. , Cabin is roomy and filled with stylish, soft-touch materials, Ride is comfortable on bumpy roads and on the highway, Engines provide impressive acceleration and fuel economy, 16.5 km / liter, It's easier to access the Accord's rear seats than camry that have sleeker, lower rooflines. The doors are large and light.
I Had 97 Camry V6, 05 Accord V6, 14 CRV. Honda all the way on following: Handling, brakes, maintenance (never needed alignment even changing tires, never needed struts replacement, ignition module, or engine mounts). Never fear going around the corner or coming out from the chute on a Honda, always firm and surefooted, unliked a cushy Toyota.
You really came up with awesome idea of comparison on board it really help to understand both vehicle, I'm in Market to buy a new vehicle and I find ur this idea is superb!!!
I purchased 2017 Toyota Camry LE in Feb. I had a 2007 LE Camry, which I wish now I had kept. This new Toyota is the 5th one I have purchased, but I am really disappointed with the size of the 2017, too small for the $$. The '07 was so spacious inside, lots so leg room, seated 5 adults comfortably. I have 3500 miles on new car, but hoping to find an older Camry to trade.
maybe if you let Toyota know what tests you'll be doing going forward, they might let you test drive them again? worth a try after only that one incident.
Dada A Toyota Avalon is basically the same car as a Lexus ES350. It’s a fair comparison. Personally I would take Lexus ALL DAY over Genesis, but not the models built in Kentucky (2015 or 2016 and later ES350).
You put cube for 103.2 and 102.7, not cubic ft. Cubic ft if ft with the little 3 at the top...come on now. You put the difference for MPG, you can put ft cube instead of just a 3..then it just looks like a math problem..
Cvt no thank you! Modern accord comes with turbo also. N/a aspirated engine with traditional automatic transmission. If you take care of it it outruns any cvt. Yes Honda looks better.
The Toyota Camry offers more features such as more speakers, air bags, (front knee airbags). 10 to accords 6. The Camry comes standard with power seats. Camry also does not have a CVT. The trusty 6 speed automatic is more reliable. The Camry won the top safety pick plus. Both cars are excellent. However, for total value Toyota comes out on top.
the Dan the man No I didn't. At the 2 minute mark I added a graphic that indicated I was only comparing non-Hybrid versions - I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
My Mazda was great and reliable but then out of nowhere things started happening that don't happen with Camrys. My rack and pinion system just started failing and the repairs estimated were $1200. I only have 71,000 miles on it and it's been babied with just normal daily driving. All 4 wheel bearings went bad at the same time which is very unusual. The mechanic asked me if it had been submerged in water by any chance. Then all of the sensors started failing including the main control for the ABS. After that the exhaust system started to get loud so I took it in and it was another larger issue needing a full replacement. This is a build quality issue and that's why Mazda has a poor resale value compared with Toyota and Honda.
Khoa Nguyen Honda's never die, u don't see old Camry's street racing or doing burn outs. Pay attention when u drive, u will see more Honda's riding harder than Camry's.
I like the current Accord design much better than the Camry. It looks much more upscale. At least you get alloy wheels on the LX, vs wheel covers on the LE Camry. We won't mention grilles. I do wish both cars offered LED or xenon headlights on all levels and not just their top end V6 models.
JAMIE E: I agree with everything you said and YES, the new Camrys have UGLY front grills just like the Lexus cars.
Jamie E same
@jamie , I won't disagree with you but when you drive both cars , you might have different opinion. Camry is quieter, smoother & more reliable and has better interior. The 2018 camry is going to look dashing btw ;)
Jamie E the new 2018 styling changes the game I think. Current gen is not very attractive in either car to me but 2018 Camry X models bring some Lexus styling that make them very attractive.
SSHADOW2: I have seen the "proposed" 2018 Camry images online but those photos may not depict the actual Camry products that will be sold to the public beginning this fall. And still HATE those AWFUL looking front grills on the Camrys and Lexus cars. Anyhow, we will see what Honda and Toyota come up with in the fall with their newly redesigned models.
When you watch this video and you just bought a 2017 Camry...
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I got the Camry anyway because of the base Honda CVT. I'll never drive with one of those if I can help it. More mpg's but it's like driving a vacuum cleaner. Honda is not known for transmissions either. It's a motor company. Good luck if you have issues with the CVT because they are nearly impossible to fix. The Camry has been using the same format 6 speed auto and has the best in class transmission reliability. There's more to this story than just number values.
Honda...hands down! Great cars, mine has 300k miles and still going strong! 💪💪💪
Lol... 200k 2010 camry still strong
Mine worry is the cvt transmission in 2017 accord. Any problems. How often do change the transmission oil. Also, any issues with engine oil smelling like gasoline. Or the pcv valve causing valve cover gasket leak?
Simtube S. I totally agree, CVT aren’t built to last as long as naturally aspirated engines. That’s why I bought the 2015 V6 Accord. That’s a really nice running car! Second best running vehicle out of about 30 I’ve owned. (a 2003 twin turbo Volvo was better but always in the shop). My daughter wants to buy a new Civic and I’m trying to persuade her to get a used 2017 Accord so she won’t have a CVT in her car.
@@Fine39XMEN from my understanding the 13-17 accord have cvt as standard unless it is a v6, i am not sure about hybrids (if they are even in line up, it depends on year). The 2017 one i got was shifting funny (cvt transmission). I test drove other ones including one i had as a loaner - none seam to have the same issue. Mind u i bought used. It was 17 lx sedan with little over 50k. Last person that had it didnt reset mpg stats for over 35k. That stat showed less than 8mpg. I put mpg and tranny together (probably previous owner was a heavy on gas pedal), i decided not to take chances. Now honda cvts are in house unlike subura, nissan and other Japanese makes that use a 3rd party supplier that are know for issues. I am sure if you are regular to easy drivers those accord cvts should last u a long while (just change transmission fluid more often and with one strictly honda genuine transmission fluid). Besides what i mentioned in previous comment about other problems to watch out for (pvc valve causing oils pressure to cause valve cover leaks and gasoline smell in oil), good luck.
My 17 accord runs great at 90k miles. Hopefully the CVT don't give out too soon but honestly will about lasting so who knows
Great breakdown Dave. I like the fact that you not only have vehicle reviews, test drives, etc.. But also evolve with the times, as far as auto review channels throughout social media are concerned.
I'll take an Accord any day over the camry. The styling, power, technology, and that wonderful honda uniqueness. Definitely more bang for your buck and doesn't look like a mom or dad car with the new styling
DAVE: Thanks so much for sharing! Very interesting comparing the two! My current car is a 1998 Camry that I have owned for almost 20 years. It has only 135K miles on it and has been the MOST RELIABLE car that I have ever owned for the longest time. But the car before that was a 1986 Accord and I had that for 11 years and 120K miles and it was also VERY reliable. But now, I am considering going back to a Honda Accord with the Sport model. Most online reviews have been positive on that car, though some complain that the Hondas rattle a lot as time goes on and that the 19" wheels on the Sport and Touring models give a bumpy ride over time. Anyhow, I think the new Accords look MUCH better than the new Camrys with the UGLY front grills on the latter cars.
Doug Celeste lol u dont drive that much
Doug Celeste stick with Toyota they're prove the most reliable you're taking a risk if you go outside Toyota.
RB25LUV: I am retired now and drive much less than before. But I still DO take LONG road trips at times to the West and Midwest.
DEVONJOKER83: While my Camry has been VERY reliable over the years, it does NOT handle nearly as well as my Accord did and the Camry has had more than its share of non-engine parts breaking which has been VERY frustrating for me. Even the exterior driver's side door handle broke!!! YIKES!!! But I still LOVE the car overall. Anyhow, Dave's comparison above is interesting and puts the Accord ahead of the Camry. But to each their own when it comes to favorite brands.
Don't just go for the look as you are going to drive it , not just look at it. Do the test drive in all kind of roads and choose the one you like.
On paper Accord wins, but in the real world it is a different story.
Real world? Still accord
Great presentation, Dave. FYI - I have a 2011 Accord LX - driven for 6 years, 43,400 miles. It's been terrific in every aspect but one: road noise & engine noise during acceleration. I'm pretty sure that Camry is better in that dept., so I'll probably switch when my loan note is up, in 2 years. Aesthetically, both cars look fine.
WesternNY I drove both camry and accord before buying a Honda Accord sport in red color. It was only Honda that was closest to camry as far as being quiet. Camry is still more quiet but not that much .
Great comparison, Professor Dave! You should have pointed out that the Accord also comes in two body styles; 4-door and 2-door. The current Accord and Camry are both very similar. Easy to see how they are always fighting each other for top spots each year for awards and so forth.
Smart program Dave. I think everyone will love this format.
5xthejoy I sure hope so - I want to bring you as much value as I can!
Man you have the voice of a presenter and thanks for taking my (and many others') Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry suggestion!
Kevin Abraham thank you for the encouragement!
Of course Dave! You deserve it! I've been watching your videos from the start- just recently made a UA-cam account so I could comment. But you're doing a great job and one day I want to be like you! I'm still in college and I'm on track to med school but cars are in my blood and I'll never forget them.
How about repairs after 150K miles, especially with the CVT's?
Very interesting. I like these comparisons (even if only the Honda is available in my country). But anything to do with cars interests me and these are cool videos. Thanks Dave.
Camry is so much easier to get in when your 6'2 Honda is VERY hard to get into
For that reason I bought a Toyota camry.i love a Honda
I second that
Even at 6’0 it’s annoying
Dave, I had few Tototas and Hondas. I think that the latest Camry is a better car than the Accord. It feels more sure footed on the road and the real gas mileage is better than that on the Accord. Honda tends to overstate fuel economy. Toyota beats the EPA estimate. I would suggest that people pay attention on how comfortable the sits are, which is very important on long trips and how noisy it gets on the highway. I also like to have a car that has some pooling from 40 - 70 miles, good brakes, and overall crash safety.
Yasen Angelov I test drove a Camry before deciding on an ACCORD SPORT. I thought the camry SE was not as nice looking as the Acord Sport. The Accord was very quiet though. Comparing the two I found the Accord was acceptable and the 19 inch wheels were much nicer than the Camry's. For me anyway, the gas mileage wasn't as important in comparing the two.
I have disagree about Honda's MPG ratings, at least in my experience. The current generation V6 models are rated at 21/33/25, but in my 2015 EX-L V6, I'd easily get around 25-26 around town, and between 36-38 on primarily highway driving, with around 28-30 being my average between tanks. I don't drive hard by any means but I also typically drive ~5-10mph over the speed limit depending on traffic flow. The same is true for the 2017 V6 Touring I have now, though I'm getting 1mpg or so lower, but I expect that to improve as the engine continues to break in, as it hasn't even hit 500 miles yet. The 2015 improved over time as well from the time I bought it new.
I like your revised list and explanations of each. Thumbs up!
Yippie I think I might eliminate trim levels and add wheelbase. Thoughts?
Yes, I'd have to agree with you on trim levels. I'm not sure people really care about how many trim levels there are. However, I did find it interesting to see the price spread. There was quite a difference in price between a fully loaded Accord and Camry. What extra features does one get for the extra cost? Not sure if you have the room to fit that in. Your white board is getting pretty full as it is. In regards to wheelbase, I personally like this detail. It's a good indicator how well a car might ride. Keep in mind that I'm a detail nut so wheelbase just makes me think about weight distribution and the turning circle radius for U turns. Bigger white board? Two? ;) Sorry, not sure if I was much help?
The pricing comparison is a bit off, in that the Honda Accord trim line packages are pretty complete, but by the time you add the same features to the Toyota Camry, it is actually much more expensive than shown on the whiteboard, so pricing wise, these end up very close, in some upper configurations (full features), the Camry will be more expensive.
High end model prices are really a lot closer when comparably equipped. With Accord the highest trim is a separate model that comes with everything, but the top trim Camry still needs packages added to the price before it is a comparably equipped car.
I have a Camry Hybrid and love it, but if I was buying right now I would get an Accord.
Good stuff! Much needed detangling of the brands and trim levels.
I like hondas and i think last 2 generation accords look amazing compared to camrys but based on my experience taking uber/lyft in those cars i feel like camrys have much smoother more comfortable ride. is it just me or ?
I like both cars and will purchase one in the near future. Consumer reports said that the new accord isn't reliable so now I, leaning more towards the Camry even though I probably like the accord better.
Great video,
I pick the accord because it's the only one that is available in manual, cvt get better mpg but aren't that reliable, specially if you plan on keeping your car for a long time.
Hey Professor Dave great breakdown...the only details you might expand on: is the interior technology. I've heard the Camry Entune infotainment system is hard to use. Toyota's GPS scout system, not accepting your Andriods apps...are common problems and have been deal breakers along with after the fact dissatisfied Camry buyers. Would like to hear your personal thoughts. Thank you sir.
Nice but would like you to compare both the hybrid models also!
Great comparison. Looking at both in the used market for 2017. Wondering how they compare to the 2017 Lexus IS.
FWIW, disappointed to see that 2018 models no longer offer the V6 trim.
Good stuff! I definitely choose the Accord. Just as reliable as the Camry, and cheaper, all while not sacrificing the styling. The new Accords looks AMAZING! The Toyota looks really outdated, and that grille...
Justin David Keep telling yourself that. Honda is trash
Rebel Rouser you and me have the same last name
Please altima vs accord
Nice presentation keep up what you do
Dave if possible compare safety systems say between your accord and camry which models offer and which models do not offer certain safety features. Maybe in general what you are hearing in the industry pros and cons. Keep up the good work.
Nice comparison, I enjoyed this. 'Hope you get a bigger whiteboard. Have you considered doing a step-by-step Powerpoint?
Tom Bell i'm trying to keep it simple and maybe a bigger white board could help but no PowerPoint for me :-)
Hi Dave if you had a choice which one would you pick?
CVT Transmissions are proving to be not reliable (complaints all over.) I'd wait a few years to see how this turns out before buying any car with a CVT.
It's interesting because only the Toyota Prius and the Corolla are recommended if your buying a car with a CVT. Hondas are not known to have good transmission reliability. A lot of people will overlook this. Good luck fixing a CVT, they generally replace the system and it'll probably be out of warranty by then.
We ended up w/2017 Camry SE b/c the Honda's were 3 to $5k more w/same miles (30k). I wanted a Honda Accord Sport but found the SE Camry for around $16k which was as low as I could find one. So far so good. Can't complain.
very good explanation in short....Please make complete video of Honda Civic 2017..
Thanks
it would be nice to know the 0-60 on each of them with the V6 engines. great video though! I love your content.
NitsedFTW they're about the same, around 6.5 seconds auto trans vs auto trans. But the V6 Accord manual has been clocked at a little below 6 seconds.
Thanks Dave. I'd appreciate interior noise db; perhaps take off the tank volume or range to make room.
Don't forget sport special edition for the Accord!
After Width and Length. I would like to know wheelbase. That matters more in handling than overall length and width. I know I am being picky on an excellent video. Just my two cents!
LTJB0228 I can add wheelbase :-) good suggestion!
Please compare the Kia Sorento and the Toyota Highlander
honda odyssey and toyota sieanna... Great vid
luv u
Jim Bolt that's a great comparison tand I'll add to my list thank you.
Thanks Dave... I don't mind when you do it but the new Odyssey is coming out in the spring (I don't know about the sienna) so you should probably do it later when more info comes out.
At the end of the day it is up to you but in any scenario I have to thank you for taking my idea into consideration.
Good Luck,
Jim
This guy is on the ball
Acura MDX vs Infiniti QX60
Great informative video Dave! I’m a dyed in the wool Toyota Camry owner! I’ll stick with Toyota for the WIN! Mark in Iowa.
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Professor Dave, I would also be considering phone integration (Android Auto/Apple Car Play) aspect in your comparisons, since it makes a huge impact. It is like bringing brains to the vehicle! Camry is dumb - its interface with the driver is stale and yesteryear. It simply drives reliably. Honda with Android Auto turns into your personal assistant while you are driving. It answers not just your simple navigation requests, but talks to you about the weather, gives definitions to words, answers questions on political news, adds items to your shopping list via voice, reads incoming messages to you and sends replies via your voice and LOTS more! HUGE difference, my friend! You are talking to your car and she responds in a very smart way. When buying my car last year I did not even consider vehicles without Android Auto/Apple Car Play integration, because it would be like buying a computer model with specs of 10 years ago....
Jesus Christ, I never thought I'd see that much horsepower from a Honda Accord.
Right? I remember my 1986 Mustang GT made 225 HP. Looks like auto manufacturers are harking back to the 60s power craze. No complaint from me.
hi Dave. for next one can you do 2017 Honda Crv vs Nissan Rogue. thanks.
JayPatel I will certainly add it to my list. Thank you.
great job on this
I bought a 2017 Camry LE and I love it, I'm not much into the Accord vs Camry war, We bought our first Toyota in 1968 a Corolla so it's brand loyalty for me. enjoy your Camry or Accord both very good cars.
Four years later I purchased a 17 Camry- and they definitely drive better than any 17 honda PERIOD
I already got a Honda Accord, beautiful car.
I think you should compare the Mazdaspeed 3 hatchback vs. the Chevy Cruze Hatchback.
How good is the Honda CVTtransmission
Great video 👍🏻
can you do a comparison of nissan altima and a hyundai sonata thank you
I own a Honda Accord 2013 Lx auto, this is the basic model. For the last 48 months, my average stop and go NYC driving is at best 25 to 26 MPG. On the highway, my car has traveled to Florida and the best mileage I achieve was 41MPG. I do not bother to use the ECO mode as I personally think it is a useless feature. Overall a very reliable car and very mucha low maintenance automobile. I would be inclined to buying a Sport model or a EX-no leather as my next car.
It would be cool to compare Hyundai Sonata vs another mid-size sedan, like Nissan Altima or Ford Fusion... I test drove extensively all of them and ended up with... :) Curious to hear YOUR outcomes. :)
Andrei Strukov
let my guess Toyota Camry ?
Nope. Not Camry - it is not tech advanced. I do have 2 Camry's in the family and I drove 2 more Camry's for 17 years. They are getting behind other manufactures in terms of modern technologies and Toyota keeps making the same old appliances with incremental upgrades. They ARE extremely reliable - once you got one, it is difficult to get rid of it: it goes and goes.
Andrei Strukov
No wait I know a Ford Fusion those are very tech savory and they are pretty reliable
Oops... You missed again, Professor Dave! :) Here, check my review "Above Competition" on Edmunds: www.edmunds.com/hyundai/sonata/2016/st-401575701/consumer-reviews/pg-1/?sorting=CONFIDENCE
Andrei Strukov
So you went with th with the Hyundai Sonata good luck with the car. Myself I've never had good luck with Hyundai I had a 2014 Elantra gls and nothing but problems with the car.For me personally fuck Hyundai I'll never go back to that brand ever again I'll stick with the domestic automakers.
464 mpg for the accord city?!!
i got a 2017 accord sport on eco and hardly got 400 mpg city and i drive like a grandpa
That's why he said best case!
I have a Honda Accord 2008. and yes the Accord is better on paper. but i have some gripes about it. road noise: the Accord is louder on the road. you can pretty much hear everything. paint quality/rust: the paint is starting to come apart from around the rear window. and the car is rusting around the rear fender. and yes I know the car is 9 years old. but I compared my car with Camrys same year and similar mileage. and the Camry doesn't have these problems. so hopefully Honda corrected these issues with the newer models.
I have the 2017 EXL V6 Coup runs great plenty of power to move.
What about the V6 engines sir..the mileage pls
How long ago did I make this video?
@@everymandriveri first saw it yestarday..iv learned alot from the video reason why im curious to know about the V6 engines of both vehicles.
Where i live Nigeria fuel is expensive and alot of people avoid v6 engines. But i was told thst V6 engines of mordern cars have good fuel mileage.
@@alhassanzayyanu5712Search it on google bruh😂
I find that there's a serious bias from most auto commenters. Everyone here is somehow worried about the CVT in the Honda but when you go to Toyota corolla's reviews, there's absolutely no concern for whether it will break down prematurely even though it has a CVT transmission as well. You don't see anyone bitching about the CVT transmission on the corollas or cast doubts on the reliability as a result of it. But you see people bitching about Hondas for having CVTs even when it is a known fact that Honda has the best and most reliable CVT transmission in the auto industry, even superior to Toyota's! It's crazy.
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hoda accord is a lot better than cheap Camry , honda is made in USA and there is allot things in honda better than camry , Interior materials are of solid quality compared to the best in the class, and it's all screwed together so well that it feels like it'll last for 100 years. , Cabin is roomy and filled with stylish, soft-touch materials, Ride is comfortable on bumpy roads and on the highway, Engines provide impressive acceleration and fuel economy, 16.5 km / liter, It's easier to access the Accord's rear seats than camry that have sleeker, lower rooflines. The doors are large and light.
Do a 2017 Toyota Tundra vs a 2017 Chevy Silverado
I Had 97 Camry V6, 05 Accord V6, 14 CRV. Honda all the way on following: Handling, brakes, maintenance (never needed alignment even changing tires, never needed struts replacement, ignition module, or engine mounts). Never fear going around the corner or coming out from the chute on a Honda, always firm and surefooted, unliked a cushy Toyota.
Question... can you go to a dealership and get a tester to review for Toyotas???
Pinkpolo85 I wish it was that easy.
You really came up with awesome idea of comparison on board it really help to understand both vehicle, I'm in Market to buy a new vehicle and I find ur this idea is superb!!!
Can do a request for me please? Can you a comparison between the 2017 Honda CRV touring and the 2018 Honda Accord 1.5 litter touring?
PLEASE REVIEW MORE TOYOTAS
kevin huston there's a slim chance that will happen :-)
why? local toyota dealerships are not cooperating ?
Which one would advice someone to get? An Audi A6 or Lexus GS 350.
Lexus ES 350 vs GS 350.
I take reliably very seriously.
Thanks
I purchased 2017 Toyota Camry LE in Feb. I had a 2007 LE Camry, which I wish now I had kept. This new Toyota is the 5th one I have purchased, but I am really disappointed with the size of the 2017, too small for the $$. The '07 was so spacious inside, lots so leg room, seated 5 adults comfortably. I have 3500 miles on new car, but hoping to find an older Camry to trade.
Possible to do bmw340 and audi s4
maybe if you let Toyota know what tests you'll be doing going forward, they might let you test drive them again?
worth a try after only that one incident.
which one fun to drive ?
Wow I think I'm gonna trade my Camry SE for the Honda Sport
Did you?
Don't
A camry on 20s will look cool and sound sysytem
I AGREE 🙏😇💯😂
Legacy vs Mazda 6
2017 Hyundai Genesis vs 2017 Toyota Avalon
Dada A Toyota Avalon is basically the same car as a Lexus ES350. It’s a fair comparison. Personally I would take Lexus ALL DAY over Genesis, but not the models built in Kentucky (2015 or 2016 and later ES350).
Toyota Highlander vs Honda Pilot
David Martinez I think it's a great idea David, I'll put that on my list.
I believe 2017 is the last year for the Accord V6 and that's s Shame such a great engine it will be replaced with a turbo 4
Accord vs Kia Optima please
Accord and Passat pls!
smicha7 really u think a passat have a change....my friend mom bought a brand new one egime went out at 25k miles
passat is pure garbage for me...
what about camry hybrid?
thats 42/38 mpg
You put cube for 103.2 and 102.7, not cubic ft. Cubic ft if ft with the little 3 at the top...come on now. You put the difference for MPG, you can put ft cube instead of just a 3..then it just looks like a math problem..
no wonder lots of Honda's in my hood
Awesome!!!!
Honda always has a sporty agressive look also more power, Toyotas look like wife/daughter car haha
I have both in my family but accord is the best
Cvt no thank you! Modern accord comes with turbo also. N/a aspirated engine with traditional automatic transmission. If you take care of it it outruns any cvt. Yes Honda looks better.
mazda 3 vs hyundia elantra
My 2017 Camry gets 40-45mpg driving at 55-60 mph.. better than the rating.
how about Ford or Chevy cars
charles johnnie thats old
The Toyota Camry offers more features such as more speakers, air bags, (front knee airbags). 10 to accords 6. The Camry comes standard with power seats. Camry also does not have a CVT. The trusty 6 speed automatic is more reliable. The Camry won the top safety pick plus. Both cars are excellent. However, for total value Toyota comes out on top.
Sonata vs Malibu
Hyundai 2016
Camry wins with interior. Honda and their stupid dash screen looks hideous. I love the accords exterior but the inside might be a deal breaker.
Would like to add one request to your lists. Accord vs HRV. Thanks a bunch 😃
he forgot the hybrids
the Dan the man No I didn't. At the 2 minute mark I added a graphic that indicated I was only comparing non-Hybrid versions - I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
I would rather a Mazda 6 over these two!
My Mazda was great and reliable but then out of nowhere things started happening that don't happen with Camrys. My rack and pinion system just started failing and the repairs estimated were $1200. I only have 71,000 miles on it and it's been babied with just normal daily driving. All 4 wheel bearings went bad at the same time which is very unusual. The mechanic asked me if it had been submerged in water by any chance. Then all of the sensors started failing including the main control for the ABS. After that the exhaust system started to get loud so I took it in and it was another larger issue needing a full replacement. This is a build quality issue and that's why Mazda has a poor resale value compared with Toyota and Honda.
Nissan sentra vs. Toyota Corolla
why even consider those 2? just get a civic
Hyundai Sonata vs Kia Optima
I own a Camry and I'll admit that the Accord is much better than the Camry, but the Camry will no doubt outlive the accord (dependability wise).
Khoa Nguyen Honda's never die, u don't see old Camry's street racing or doing burn outs. Pay attention when u drive, u will see more Honda's riding harder than Camry's.
@@ejm_demon8263 Where I live I mostly see more old accords than olf camrys tbh
One is a Honda and the other is a Toyota. Vid finished
Accord rough riding