Yes, and she is still suffering. Its as if she has lost her twice. After being reunited she now has to deal with he fact that she is in contact with the kidnapper daily and rarely speaks with her. What did she do to deserve such hardship???? WOW!!! How cruel.
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully with time that will change. That young lady is taking this whole situation very well though from the looks of things.
Chelsea Gibson I saw some clips from the Own channel and Kamiyah is on an episode of Iyanla Fix My Life. I'm assuming they'll get more in depth on there. Just in case you hadn't seen that. I haven't found the whole episode yet.
She can accept her dad because he isn't replacing anyone, her birth mom on the other hand reminds her of the chaos and pain her kidnapper mom caused. She is not able to deal with that yet. The kidnapper in her heart is her mom. Such a sad situation. Its like her mom lost her twice.
Shanara Mobley is NOT Kamiyah's/Alexis' "birth mom", because Kamiyah/Alexis was NOT adopted. Only children who are adopted have "birth moms". Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped. She has a mother, and the kidnapper that she knew as "mom".
TheYasmineFlower I totally get your prospective. In my statement I use the term birth mom in distinguishing who actually birthed this child. Not to say her mom gave her away or to give the kidnapper any rights or claim because I do not believe she has any. Nor was it my intent to take anything away from her mom. As I stated I feel she has suffered greatly and has had to deal with this kidnapper taking her child twice.
just about to type that as she favor her some. they are both Crustaceans. She seem as though she was given a great life w/ the family who raised her! this one odd situation where can't even give an after Reply.
agoddessadiva But she needs to take speech classes to work on her speech so that when she goes on her job interview she would sound more " Proffessional " and cute.
with the customer service I get & sociopaths, she can be a trustworthy, successful freelancer/contractor. if one can get a trustworthy caseworker or customer service, the speech is petty. need be able to trust to provide our household or families w/ uninterruptive & unvindictive services.
I think the only reason she is closer to her father is cause he is chill, he is not trying to force anything. The father makes it a comfortable environment to get to know her. He is more understanding and is working on her time. The mother is trying to force a relationship quickly and is upset she is not more recieving of her love. She wants her to trust her cause they are related but the point is she doesn't know you. She wants her baby back and to call her mom, but she doesn't know you. She ought to get to know her first and let things happen in the time that it does.
P M I swear your post was the only realistic one on this thread. Plus her kidnapper was a good mother to her. So of course she’s still going to love her. I don’t understand how ppl just expect her to stop loving her. This is just another Carlina White story.
I think the mother isn’t forcing she just wants a relationship. The child didn’t have a father and she yearns for that relationship. I’m her mind she already has a mother and she has no intention to replace it. Her bio mother isn’t doing anything wrong so let’s not blame her.
I cannot feel any sympathy for the kidnapper. I look at my baby girl and feel the heart wrenching pain I would have felt had I carried my child and given birth to her, then to have her taken from me like that. Words cannot describe, I think
I feel bad for her kidnapper and here’s why: She had jst lost her kid when she stole the other baby. Post Partum is real! She was most likely suffering from PTSD when she took her at first. She was most likely mentally unstable and view the baby as hers. Now, after about 2 years or so, she should’ve given her back. I don’t think jail time is something she needed
@@laurencameron3150 You may not have seen other videos on this story, but the kidnapper is narcissistic. She planned the kidnapping and shows no remorse. Whether she had post-partum depression or its no excuse for taking another person's baby. She had two other children who were later taken away, seemingly from abuse from the father. She had no business taking another child into that toxic environment.
The L.Z Show because if you look she does not really talk to her birth mom Eva her if her dad says she doesn’t really talk to her they have a strange relationship
+Irene Christmas Kamiyah/Alexis does NOT have a "birth mom"! The title of "birth mom" only applies to a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption and an adoption is finalized. Kamiyah/Alexis was NEVER relinquished for adoption, she was kidnapped. How disgusting of anyone to suggest that Shanara Mobley gave away her own baby. Words mean things, use them properly. And of course it will take time to sort this out and for the relationships to grow and be sorted out. That doesn't mean that Kamiyah/Alexis will never have a relationship with her mom. Only time will tell how it turns out.
Nevada Troxler i agree. But I also understand that she loves the woman who raised her, and doesn’t really know her biological mother. I saw her on Iyanla today and I understand why the relationship with the biological mother is difficult. She requested they go on the show, then decided not to show up, basically abandoning her. Her bio mother expects her to hate the woman who raised her, and that’s unrealistic and unfair to that young girl. The woman who raised her should never get out of jail, so I’m not defending her. However, if her biological parents want a genuine relationship with her, they will have to try to support Kamiya and not get upset that she loves the woman who raised her. None of this is her fault, and they shouldn’t expect her to immediately hate the only mother she’s ever known just because she now knows the truth.
Accepting her biological mum in her mind is a betrayal of who raised her, she is still in denial. SHe is afraid of confronting the fact as she will lose her identity..who will she be afterwards?? It is complicated..
It’s not that she is disloyal. I believe she is too immature to absorb all this. It’s too much to be thrown on an adolescent. Our brains aren’t even fully formed til the early twenties.To her, Gloria is her mother, so she protects her.
Her mom probably feels some type of way that the daughter still wants a relationship with the kidnapper but she cant really blame her the woman raised her & seems to have done a good job.
If your world was destroyed from someone taking your child would you feel alright as long as the child was provided for? This is NOT OKAY. Pedophiles also “love” children....I guess that’s okay too by your logic.
Though I am no longer in Jacksonville I remember this well and never forgot this baby, prayed for her and her family. I am happy she is home and I will continue to send prayers her way.
She's acting and compartmentalizing. There is no way anyone can be over this kind of trauma so soon. If you notice she speaks of the whole ordeal in past tense.
If she had been abused or something, I would call it traumatic. But the fact that she was raised in a loving home, regardless of the issue at hand, doesn't make her feel sad, I guess. It is not her fault she was stolen at 8 days old and grew up thinking her kidnapper was her mom.
@@samettamthompson it’s still traumatic whether she was abused or not. That is an extremely hard thing to go through, especially when you’re SIXTEEN. Then losing the person you think is your mother at eighteen, and having to deal with all of that.
Shes pretty and looks just like her dad. The birth mother has endured a lot of pain. Mother daughter relationships can be strained even when the mother raises the child from birth and live together
+Ms ch Shanara Mobley is NOT a "birth mother". A "birth mother" is a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption, and an adoption of the child to someone else is finalized. Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped, not adopted. Don't use words for her mother that insinuate that she caused her daughter's abduction. She didn't. Only the kidnapper caused it.
Mona Starr, I agree that the law should further punish her with a restraining order keeping her from contacting the victim. Unfortunately, the victim is an adult and chooses to be in contact with her captor. I think that's the reason why the victim didn't reveal she was kidnapped when she first learned the truth because she was a minor at the time. What amazes me is that no one in the kidnappers life realized that she didn't give birth to a child. I'm guessing the news coverage on a baby being stolen from a hospital never reached the area that the kidnapper lived in. If I knew someone was a nurse (or any hospital employee), the nurse claimed to be pregnant, and around the time the nurse gave birth, a baby is kidnapped from a hospital, I would have suspicion and would compare the baby's appearance to the kidnapped baby.
Mona Starr thank you for telling me about the kidnapper having a miscarriage. I didn't know she was once pregnant. The guy claimed that while he was in jail or prison, the kidnapper claimed that she was pregnant with his child. He figured she got pregnant before he went to prison and found out about the pregnancy after he was locked up. The guy trusted the kidnapper with all his heart because the baby didn't look like him or her. Most people would get a DNA test, but I guess he felt like the kidnapper was faithful and could do no wrong.
Because of things like this I NEVER allowed my baby to be in the nursery when I had him and when he had to go into the nursery to get test ran on him, me and his father were right there! I’d be damn if someone tried to take my child after all that labor and delivery pain and 9mons of hard work carrying him! Psst!
Yes. I was watching another video and this guy was saying that when you give birth you should always have a family members with you so he can guard the baby when he arrives. Keep an eye on what the doctors are doing and making sure everything is ok.
I just had my baby girl three weeks ago. I can't even imagine the pain the mom felt/feels... I'm so glad my husband stayed with our child the whole time in the hospital
Actually it doesn't air until March the 3rd. Right now you can only see clips. Check on OWN Network. From the looks of it her reaction has nothing to do with her new family or fame being a negative influence at all. She is hurting very much from this entire ordeal. And it shows.
Home girl said she was gonna shoot ilyana and all the things she does to “bxtxhes” and people are saying this woman raised her right 🤔. And her father has eight other kids 🤯
Moni Star THANK YOU!! the nerve of ppl to speak on what someone else chooses to do with their lives. Those same individuals never speak on the bs in their lives.
Lol , that’s JACKSONVILLE Florida for you 😭 I have her on snapchat and her real family that she lives with now in Florida are so ratchet ! So that may be why she seems like a whole different person
It’s sad how young minded some of the people in this world are. Everyone agreeing with one another saying how it were “better for the kidnapper to keep/raise her” like you guys know how her personality would be if her mother were able to raise her. Y’all(who agree with that statement) have to really think about that.. in reality, it was definitely wrong for the kidnapper to take this mother’s daughter from her, period.. her own mother probably could’ve raised her better than what the kidnapper did...and her life would still be just as great. Point is, you can’t say what was better for this girl, when you don’t even know what or how it would’ve been if the crime never happened. At the end of the day nobody really knows & you can’t say that the kidnappers false actions were right just because this girl turned out to be mature.. what she did was wrong, despite how this girl turned out.. Imagine you in the mother’s position, see things from her perspective.. would you still believe others when they it were better for the kidnapper to keep?
Exactly and looks just like her dad man this is just too sad praying for them and there baby girl for the family too be close and my heart goes out too them all.
Wow, she looks just like the birth mom when she was younger!! They even have the same voice!! At 0:56 thats the birth mom!! I actually thought it was the girl for a sec until I saw the beauty marks on the face. Its also so odd she got away with this. Hospitals have cameras everywhere......I don't get how you can snatch a baby and not be seen by at least one camera.
N. Calhoun-I really do believe there is more to this story. I had my son in 1993 and there were sensors in his pampers. Kamiyah is younger than him technology should have better.
N. Calhoun those were acne scarsand she actually resembles Gloria very much so...idk what u are looking at because this girl looks nothing like Shamara(birthmom) at all
Plus she just shows up with a baby one day and all her friends and family are like "oh okay". No one questions her???? If I just randomly showed up with a newborn everyone would be like ummmm who's is that and where did it come from
WOW! I have never heard of such a scary, sad, yet happy story when it relates to a baby being stolen... How do you even process this? Here BIRTH mother spent years traumatized and during the same time the woman that took her baby took care of the child? WHAT A CRAZY REAL STORY!!! WOW
Shanara Mobley is NOT a "birth mother", she is Kamiyah's/Alexis' MOTHER. A "birth mother" is a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption, and an adoption of the child to other people is finalized. Shanara Mobley did not give away her baby. Her baby was kidnapped.
Klove The Lou I don't think she was that traumatized her daughter found her on Facebook 2 years before and the lady hung up on her then called her back a year later to say happy birthday? I think she be grateful the lady took care of her . I doubt if she would have been the same person if the birth mother had raised her .... she was only 16
Apparently, children who are stolen are usually well taken care of. It's crazy, but this is a comment I've heard from a law enforcement officer in a different documentary covering a story like this. My heart goes out to the biological mother. At the same time, it's beautiful that she got to reunite with her daughter. I pray that their relationship grows stronger - it will take time.
Idc how she talks now. Some of you guys are so disgusting for those comments. She was traumatized. This is the type of trauma that makes people lose it and here she is happy. She feels loved, she’s finding her place in her real family and she still has dreams and excitement for her future. That’s a blessing.
She's dealing with a lot. Is she even getting counselling and therapy? The state of Florida and/or the state of South Carolina should really fund that for her, so that she can have some assistance in healing from what she has been put through.
No Kamiyah suffered the most. Imagine you find out for 18years you have been living your life a lie and the mom who raise you in jail and this other lady you dont know is your bio mom. She has to give Kamiyah time. I live this life but wasnt kidnapped.
I was raised by my step Mom. The woman who raised me is my only Mom. I will never accept my birth Mom as a Mom. The most traumatic thing anyone could do to the girl is throw the only Mom she knows in jail. I'm not defending her and not saying she doesn't belong in jail because she absolutely does. But that decision will always be traumatic to the daughter. She needs her Mom who raised her and doesn't have her. People thinking with emotion instead of logic are only thinking about the birth family and not the best interest of the girl.
Author Tonya D Simmons I was raised by my step mother and met my birth Mom when I was 17. The biggest mistake the birth parents make is being overly posseive and treat you like property. The subconscious mind of the chills doesn't know the difference between illegal kidnapping, legal adoption or being lovingly raised by a step parent. Bonding and attachment issues are thicker than blood 100% of the time. Locigally, yes they belong to the birth parents but subconsciously, the birth parents will always be strangers. There is such thing as "too late".
Lock her up and throw away the key! Wish someone would take my child from me for 18 years and think she can get a slap on the wrist when i got 18 years GONE. Only reason the 'daughter' doesnt want her 'mother' to be locked up is because she has been MANIPULATED
I feel like this is going to tear her up inside. She may be smiling for the camera, but that woman has raised her...as her own. And there is no amount of distance that will keep them two away from each other. She is a gown woman, and she will travel to see her mother in jail. She will always think of her. And, her real mother will always be upset about. Kamiyah will never be honest with her real mother because it will hurt her feelings to listen about another woman/kidnapper that raised her. Its going to be hard.
This girl is definitely being naive about the situation. Kidnapping is a serious crime...whether with good intentions or not. There are other ways to help a child...that’s why certain laws are in place (not saying they always work out for the benefit of the child). But this is devastating. And like one of comments below, how didn’t anyone know or figure out this woman stole this child? Woman just pops up with all documentation with new baby? I just don’t understand. Something just doesn’t sound right.
Ameerah Jones I feel like her whole family knew she kidnapped her. It was all over the news her baby picture was everywhere. So I don't understand how nobody didn't know.
Ameerah Jones according to google, kidnapper mom had a stillborn at 9months so she posed as a nurse and kidnapped the baby. Then she forged documents. Kidnapper mom eventually confessed to Kamiyah. Kamiyah told ppl and someone snitched.
Ameerah JonesYeah, I don't think Kamiyah really realizes how serious this is (mostly because she's so young). The kidnapper is obviously not quite all there, mentally, and when she gets out, who's to say she won't do it again? How does Kamiyah know she won't kidnap her "grandchild/ren" like she did Kamiyah? In my opinion, Gloria Williams shouldn't be allowed around any children.
How did she leave the hospital as a nurse with a newborn baby? Why didnt nobody notice this chick wasnt really a nurse? Nobody passed her in the halls and wondered when she started working there? This says ALOT about this "hospital"
Truth be told... Only GOD knows why HE allowed this thing to happen. He could have actually used this issue to SAVE her from something evil, ugly, and SICK. GOD sees ALL... Knows all. I feel like she's BLESSED to be able to process the ordeal and walk in forgiveness. She is being strong..... But even more than that.... The child is being Christ-Like. I'm so glad GOD is with her. Many children do not love and respect their birth mothers very much if at all. God has a plan for us all... His will be done. GLORY TO GOD!
Laura Butler i thought i was the only one thinking that...her mama was 16 no education n her daddy was an alcoholic who went to prison...sorry it happen but im actually glad aint no telling what her life what have been like....smh
Can someone explain this to me because I truly don't understand? She is old enough to understand what the lady took from her and her biological parents. She is older enough to understand that the kidnapper did was a crime. She is old enough to let by gone be by gone (when it comes to the woman that kidnapped her, lied to her) all because she wasnt physically verbally emotionally cruel to her. So she still get best mother of the year award. But her biological mother who did anything wrong is still going through hell because she considers the kidnapper more as a mother than her biological mother. Smh
She has such a positive outlook on life. You go girl! Don’t let this take your life! I’m just mind blown on how someone can pull off the crime for 18 years.....
@@queenshay Nah, she's not. In her mind, she has a mother who is in prison, 18 years is long enough to build a bond that cannot just be terminated overnight. Her biological mother and her lifestyle is strange to her. The fact that her biological mother doesn't want to accept her relationship with the woman who raised her makes their relationship difficult. Her father is easygoing about the whole situation, probably because he was not affected the same was her mother was. I feel bad for her biological mother, she found her daughter but the daughter can't terminate her bond with the woman who stole her because she's had her for the first 18 years of life.
@@Tee1312Jay I completely agree. The biological mother is emotional and hostile. The kidnapper is loving and easygoing. Kamiyah wasn't raised with the strife of the ghetto. Her life has been polar opposite. Her birth mother scares her and turns her off. The father is playing it cool and is friendly to her, so she feels more comfortable there. His energy is easier for her to connect with bc it is a familiar energy.
That's crazy! I'm glad she's a healthy young lady, she seems very strong. The real loss is for her bio mother because she will never feel that connection having grown up apart. No body can tell her how to feel for the women that kid napped her and raised her.
My mom left when I was a baby and I met her as an adult. I'm closer with my step mom than her. I hold no ill will towards her, I just feel bad for her because she has no relationship with any of her kids. I feel sorry for Kamiya's real mom-I hope they have a good relationship
Her and birth mother have a long road because she feels she’s replacing the mother she knows. With dad it’s easier to accept him since she grew up without one and he spoils her which is what she’s used to. I can’t imagine what the birth mother is going through but this is heartbreaking as a mother to even think about.i pray both kamaiyah and the mother Shanara get the healing they need, esp the birth mother Shanara. She is this biggest victim in this to me
There is no "birth mother", because Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped, not adopted! The term "birth mother" was invented for adoption situations and ONLY applies to those.
TheYasmineFlower I want trying to be technical on the label.it is her birth mother because that is what the young lady identifies her as.but thanks theres really no debate on this
This is crazy to me. I need the mother behind bars to do an interview. She’s not obligated but she has A LOT questions to be answered. Just to think the young lady was raised 200 miles away.. not too far away from her biological parents.
Cherry Berry ever thought she was Kidnapped and I don’t agree with what this lady did. But ask yourself what is a mother? What is a good mother? Her kidnapper was a good mother to her and because of that she will always love this lady. Sad but true.
I feel bad for her because it does seem like she is just trying to please everyone and she's young so I don't think she can grasp the actual pain it was for her real mother to have her infant baby who she had just given birth to stolen away from her. I also feel so sad for the birth mom who did nothing wrong and got the short end of the stick all the way around
I agree this young woman basically has no problems. She just has to follow the plan Gloria set out for her College, profession, job. However, she has to make her self a vessel of kindness for the family she was stolen from and feel their pain. My uncles wife has a saying thank God I was a slave because I would not want to be an African right now. Kamiyah has grown up in a good home with money. Her hair is always laid and that's what she's used to. Gloria was an excellent mother but she is a psychopath we suppose. Some nurse may have given her the baby because of the circumstances of the family and the fact that she was simply an adorable adorable baby with limited life chances. It worked but technology has advanced and she needed her documents to get a job. However from my perspective there is nothing wrong with Kamiyah. Why should there be? At this point Kamiyah must be a vessel between the two families and get them to show mercy towards Gloria. However Gloria does deserve some jail time not even for her but as a deterrence to others who might try it.
Yea yea her real nothing went through "pain" so much "pain" she wants nothing to do with her that is why when you break a wrist you have your wrist removed because of the pain right? I broke my worst twice and made the Mistake of keeping my wrist that healed and no longer hurts for about 20 years now I mean its not like she's supposed to love her right??? Wait........
She is a very strange girl. She LOVES to be the center of attention and does not want that to end. She's loud and goofy. She seems like she would be obnoxious to be around.
Tanisha Powers no not bipolar it took a lot for her to flip I’m bipolar and it only takes a couple seconds for me to go off on someone speaking to me like that
David Brennan lol oh my God please don't confuse me LOL.. the one with the gold fronts is the real dad, and the one in South Carolina is the fake dad LOL
She's still trying to figure out who she is as a person! Kidnapped at birth! she was living out a lie until she got justice now she's still searching for herself!
Kamiyah is so angry, lost, and confused about her identity. She stills yearns for Gloria, her "mother" who is incarcerated. The deep mother-daughter relationship she had with Gloria from infancy cannot simply be erased and be replaced by her natural mother...Sharana, irrespective of the crime committed. When the truth is revealed, it hurts and at times unbearable. But only the "truth will set you free." Lets pray: Heavenly Father, the great shepherd of our souls, please find your three daughters (Shanara, Gloria, and Kamiyah) in the dark corners they are sitting in, scoop them up in your loving strong arms, break every chain that keeps them in their prison and set them free. Let there be forgiveness, divine love and healing among these three women that only you can do. What the enemy meant for evil, turn it into good, for your purpose and glory. Help Shanara to find completeness in you so that she can completely love and forgive Gloria. Help Gloria seek your forgiveness, to forgive herself and ask forgiveness of Shanara. Help Kamiyah with her identity struggles. Let her know that her true identity is found in you. She is a child of the King, a precious daughter of the most High God. Fill her with your unconditional love, peace, goodness and kindness. Renew a right spirit within her. Bring a supernatural reconciliation and a miraculous loving, kind, forgiving relationship between these three women and their family like only you can do. For nothing is impossible for you. In Jesus' name, Amen.
This is what I told her mom.....The baby was probably better off with the lady that raised her. Sometimes we pray for things that God is trying to protect us from. This is sad but to be honest this was destined..Kamitah probably would have been that disrespectful daughter that gave you hell..or maybe God was protecting her from YOU mom...you seem a little heartless..I know it's wrong but at least she raised her and took good care of her. What she done was selfish in your eyes but life is not all about you mom. Maybe you should forgive the lady and understand WHY she did what she did. Don't be so COLD HEARTTED. You can learn from her how to LOVE. SHE DIDN'T KILL HER and she didn't hurt her..she LOVED what your little fast tail at 16 COULDN'T!! SO BE THANKFUL...let's not point fingers okay!!
oh, looking at the pics I see the woman that abducted Kamiyah had 2 sons before she got Kamiyah, so that makes her even more scandalous for SNATCHING someone else's damn child...she already had kids so she knew what it was like being a mother, and the bond you feel towards your child even BEFORE they're born...she may of raised Kamiyah well but that doesn't excuse all the hurt she's caused so many people...that shit was just plain selfish and self serving...smh...
It's messed up her real mom had to suffer and still has too. I feel for her in this situation. As a mom it's hurting me to see her acknowledge the other woman and not stop to think that her real mother suffered. To seem careless about her real moms feelings. That woman who raised her is a monster! And it's sad to say that this girl is just soaking up the fam and the cameras with this. Totally different from Carolina whites story. So sad
IK 2 years later & I’m still commenting😂 but saying the fact that I’m pregnant now, I couldn’t imagine carrying my baby full term, feeling all her kicks, building an emotional connection in the womb, & have her lay on my chest after delivering her & have her stolen 8 hours later. No words can describe her mother’s hurt and pain. The daughter will realize & deal with it better when she has a child of her own & can mentally put herself in her mothers shoes while in the hospital room & imagine her baby getting stolen from her. That might be the only way for them to have a better relationship. My heart still hurts for the mother. That lady deserves to be locked away for good.
"healing her relationship" with her biological mother, kamiyah? there was never a relationship, lady. she does have a continuing relationship with gloria, despite the latter's being in jail. that relationship cannot and shd not be erased for the sake of kamiyah.
I saw her on Iyanla Fix My Life being VERY disrespectful. I’m hoping they just edited it like that bc it was only a preview but if she really was she needs to calm down! I know her “fake mom” didn’t raise her like that. And ya’ll can say what y’all want. That lady was wrong but at least when she took her she did right by raising her as far as it goes.
I have to say that she seems to be well adjusted. And although she was kidnapped and not adopted I think that a lot of issues may be the same as adopted children who reunite with their birth family. Most have a honeymoon period in the very beginning and then relationships turn rocky until everyone settles into their new relationships. I was adopted and it's definitely been a long road to feeling like a family. With some it is as if we've always been together and with others it's been much harder. And as a mom of a child I birthed as well as three I didn't, I can relate to the need to mother your child even when that child is an adult. Then to add the feelings of anger that her child was taken from her, that's something that I can't comprehend. I feel so torn about an appropriate punishment for the woman who kidnapped her. Only because she apparently gave her a good life. And even though it was wrong, how is the girl supposed to turn her feelings off and reject her? I do wonder how the daughters feelings will be when she becomes a mother herself. I pray for her and her parents, and the judge who will have to determine an appropriate punishment. And I pray that in time she and her birth mother will heal and have a good relationship
madree p well said , I could imagine what her biological mom is going through. . . she missed out on all them years , her childhood etc , im sorry to say but if she kidnapped her for 18 years , the mom lost her for 18 years , then with all due respect she should get no less then 18 years .
It's My Life it's not the same thing at all, but I suspect Kamiyah must have similar feelings as a person who was adopted. Because no matter how it happened, she is having to accept that the person she has always known as her mother is not. And she's an adult, a young adult who is getting to know this new family and finding her place in it. And I'm sure that her true mother is devastated by Kamiah's support of the woman who kidnapped her. Who wouldn't be? To her mother she's still the baby that she lost almost 20 years ago. She's an adult now, one who makes her own decisions and already has her own thoughts and beliefs. She is at that age where we all think that we're grown and are capable of making our own decisions. My twins that are not my biological children are the same age as her. They're 19, and will be 20 in April. One lives over an hour away, and his twin moved to a different state more than 24 hours away by car. And I don't like it at all. I want them to be home with me so that I can continue to mother them. I worry about the choices that they are making. I want to know where they are all of the time, who their friends are. If they're eating enough and are on top of their health. They can't stand it. They think that they don't need me to do those things for them anymore. And they really don't. But my heart doesn't know it. My heart beats for my children. Just because they're adults does not mean that my role changed the moment they turned 18. I still see them as my babies. Their mom got her life together around the time that they started school. They went back to live with her and split their time between both of us. It was a hard adjustment for everyone. Our kids had to get to know her and her rules and expectations. She had a lot of bitter feelings towards me and my relationship with the kids. And I didn't have the best feelings towards her either. We're not friends but we tolerate one another. She raised them completely different than I did. She exposed them to things that I didn't think that they should have been exposed to. Our daughter had severe asthma due to her prematurity that she fortunately grew out of but when she was still very young I didn't trust her mom to take care of her properly. And there are little things like when our oldest son who's 22 graduated from high school he only got four tickets to graduation and she gave them to her family. And she posed in pictures of him in his cap and gown with his father who was in prison from before he was born and had just gotten out a few months earlier. And all these people commented about what great parents they were when honestly neither of them were involved. He was older than the twins when they all went back to live with her and he spent more time with me. I paid all of their sports fees and went to their games. I went to their practices. I was at parent teacher conferences and doctor appointments. And it's a hard pill to swallow when the person who wasn't there for the small stuff is the one who's there for the big moments. And it's not the same situation at all but how must Kamiah's mother feel when she looks at photos or Kamiah talks about things that she did with her "mother" or "family"? She has to be hurt and angry. Because she should have been there. I'm sorry, I talk too damn much. I am not trying to excuse the crime and am not trying to diminish the feelings that her mother has. Not at all. My heart breaks for her. I have no sympathy for the woman who stole her. None at all. But I can empathize with her mother and her because of my own experiences as a mother of children who has missed out on so much, but also as a daughter of both of my mothers. My birth mother was murdered 31 years ago when I was 10. And I often struggle with my feelings for her. Because I feel guilty or like I'm betraying the mother who raised me when I speak of my birth mother or mourn her death. I'm always worried that I will hurt my mom's feelings. She says that she knows how much I love her and that me loving my birth mother doesn't mean that I love her more or wish that I could have had my birth mother longer. My mom is my mom. All of my memories are of her. I'm blessed to have her and would never have wanted it to be different. The difference is that I knew my mom. I knew why I wasn't raised by her. And I wasn't kidnapped. Unless it was by the state when they put me in foster care and terminated my parent's rights. No matter how my mom came to be my mom I would still always love her. She's who I know. And we didn't have a lot of material things, but she loved me and raised me to be a good person. And I can't imagine having to feel differently. Which is why I wonder how Kamiyah will feel when she becomes a mother herself and feels that love that only a mother can feel for their child. Will she start to feel angry about the woman who kidnapped her? Because I don't see her real mother and her having a great bond and relationship if Kamiyah never cuts ties with her kidnapper. I think that's why she has a better relationship with her dad. He's not focused on her relationship with the woman who kidnapped her. He's just enjoying today and looking forward to tomorrow. It doesn't matter if the kidnapper was executed, there's no punishment in the world that will give them back what was stolen from them. I respect everyone's opinions as well. I'm just trying to explain why I feel the way that I do. I am not excusing what happened at all. But I understand why Kamiyah can't hate the woman who she thought was her mother.
Same to you. I also hope that she receives a sentence that the family feels is fair. She took a plea deal but the judge hasn't sentenced her yet as far as I know
+madree p You know that Kamiyah/ALexis wasn't adopted, yet you use adoption terminology to describe her mother. As though Shanara had given away her baby - she didn't. Her baby was kidnapped. Ergo, she is not and can not be a "birth mother", period.
She's a hurt young woman and needs therapy. She keeps putting off the fact that her kidnapper mom pulled the ultimate crime. She's suppressing her true feelings and that's why she declines to talk about certain things. I feel sad for her, hopefully one day she will be able to heal
Chassidy Douglas YES LET'S APPLAUD THE KIDNAPPER FOR DOING A GOOD JOB RAISING A CHILD WHO WAS STOLEN FROM A MOTHER WHO LOST YEARS OF FIRST MOMENTS OF HER CHILD
I can't imagine,I remember when my son was born he had to go straight to ICU and I was yelling at his Dad go with them!!Watch where they put him don't leave!!smh I think this was a big fear of mine
My children were born in university hospital. They lost me and my baby. Thanks to my husband we got found. I was in a ward surrounded by people who had arms and legs in slings
I want to know why the kidnapper did it?...thats crazy....what was her purpose?....thats crazy as hell. Just kidnapping people kids like it's normal....
How did she get braces with no social security card to prove her identity to get dental insurance? Something isn’t adding up . Schools won’t even accept students without proof of person and papers 🤦🏽♀️ the system failed her mother
The one who's suffered this most here = the biological mother.
Edit: 3K likes, geeeez ... thanks UA-cam family.
Exactly!!!!
Yes, and she is still suffering. Its as if she has lost her twice. After being reunited she now has to deal with he fact that she is in contact with the kidnapper daily and rarely speaks with her. What did she do to deserve such hardship???? WOW!!! How cruel.
Its such a shame this girl is being a brat. Her bio mom spent years mourning and traumatized and she acts like it doesn't matter.
finallyanaccount yep!
Shawnte Amoure Simmons 😔😔😔😔
Damn i feel like her mother will never get to be as close as she wants with her daughter .
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully with time that will change. That young lady is taking this whole situation very well though from the looks of things.
Zakia Lee she really is and as much as we may want her to
Open up , the lady that took her is all she knows smh .
Chelsea Gibson I saw some clips from the Own channel and Kamiyah is on an episode of Iyanla Fix My Life. I'm assuming they'll get more in depth on there. Just in case you hadn't seen that. I haven't found the whole episode yet.
Zakia Lee thank youuuuuu
chelsea gibson Full episode (couldn’t tag the link somehow)
Iyanla Fix My Life SO8 E01 Abducted At Birth
The real victim is the birth mother sad
and the real villian is the hospital for letting a stranger play a nurse and winning an Oscar
Yeap
The real victim is the girl
That rachet bitch don't care bout her
What...!!!???
She can accept her dad because he isn't replacing anyone, her birth mom on the other hand reminds her of the chaos and pain her kidnapper mom caused. She is not able to deal with that yet. The kidnapper in her heart is her mom. Such a sad situation. Its like her mom lost her twice.
Shawnte Amoure Simmons I agree! This is heartbreaking, her kidnapper is a terrible person.
Shanara Mobley is NOT Kamiyah's/Alexis' "birth mom", because Kamiyah/Alexis was NOT adopted. Only children who are adopted have "birth moms". Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped. She has a mother, and the kidnapper that she knew as "mom".
TheYasmineFlower I totally get your prospective. In my statement I use the term birth mom in distinguishing who actually birthed this child. Not to say her mom gave her away or to give the kidnapper any rights or claim because I do not believe she has any. Nor was it my intent to take anything away from her mom. As I stated I feel she has suffered greatly and has had to deal with this kidnapper taking her child twice.
Shawnte Amoure Simmons Yes!! yu said it. Exactlee.
Great observation!!!!!!
Her voice reminds me of Fantasias.
agoddessadiva I agree & her mannerisms are Keke Palmer-ish to me
just about to type that as she favor her some. they are both Crustaceans. She seem as though she was given a great life w/ the family who raised her! this one odd situation where can't even give an after Reply.
agoddessadiva But she needs to take speech classes to work on her speech so that when she goes on her job interview she would sound more " Proffessional " and cute.
with the customer service I get & sociopaths, she can be a trustworthy, successful freelancer/contractor. if one can get a trustworthy caseworker or customer service, the speech is petty. need be able to trust to provide our household or families w/ uninterruptive & unvindictive services.
Or Ester Dean
The way this girl acted out on Fix My Life was disrespectful, her family is not helping her! She needs help. Wish her well.
I saw that. I agree.
Was she the one cursing at iyanla..omg ..this girl is agangsta....
Hi. I seen your comment on that show!
Cynthia Buchanan she is emotional ok you saw her
She didn’t say she had to stay the night she gave her the choice to leave
I think the only reason she is closer to her father is cause he is chill, he is not trying to force anything. The father makes it a comfortable environment to get to know her. He is more understanding and is working on her time. The mother is trying to force a relationship quickly and is upset she is not more recieving of her love. She wants her to trust her cause they are related but the point is she doesn't know you. She wants her baby back and to call her mom, but she doesn't know you. She ought to get to know her first and let things happen in the time that it does.
P M I swear your post was the only realistic one on this thread. Plus her kidnapper was a good mother to her. So of course she’s still going to love her. I don’t understand how ppl just expect her to stop loving her. This is just another Carlina White story.
This is the biggest fact. People trying to force her to choose, to feel.. he just wants her to be happy and take her time. He's a great dad
This is true i live in jacksonville and my dad and her dad are childhood friends, her dad is so nice she is too (im 2 years late)
Exactly!!!!!!
I think the mother isn’t forcing she just wants a relationship. The child didn’t have a father and she yearns for that relationship. I’m her mind she already has a mother and she has no intention to replace it. Her bio mother isn’t doing anything wrong so let’s not blame her.
I cannot feel any sympathy for the kidnapper. I look at my baby girl and feel the heart wrenching pain I would have felt had I carried my child and given birth to her, then to have her taken from me like that. Words cannot describe, I think
I totally agree with you. Same with my baby girl.
Thank you 👏🏿👏🏿
I feel bad for her kidnapper and here’s why: She had jst lost her kid when she stole the other baby. Post Partum is real! She was most likely suffering from PTSD when she took her at first. She was most likely mentally unstable and view the baby as hers. Now, after about 2 years or so, she should’ve given her back. I don’t think jail time is something she needed
@@laurencameron3150 I feel O clucks for the kidnapper that ruined lives
@@laurencameron3150 You may not have seen other videos on this story, but the kidnapper is narcissistic. She planned the kidnapping and shows no remorse. Whether she had post-partum depression or its no excuse for taking another person's baby. She had two other children who were later taken away, seemingly from abuse from the father. She had no business taking another child into that toxic environment.
That kidnapper pisses me off. In EVERY picture where she is, her REAL mother should have been there. Nothing about the situation is remotely funny.
And she continues to talk to her. That is the real crime.
Who said it was funny? The women is acting like she would be a better parent then her mom who RAISED HER and loved her THAT'S the crime
@@ThePorshaEdmun very
i dont think her and her mom ( birth ) will have a relationship but her dad seem like the where never separated
Irene Christmas why
The L.Z Show because if you look she does not really talk to her birth mom Eva her if her dad says she doesn’t really talk to her they have a strange relationship
Irene Christmas 😞😞
Yup bcuz when she turns 21 that lawsuit money coming to his daughter.
+Irene Christmas Kamiyah/Alexis does NOT have a "birth mom"! The title of "birth mom" only applies to a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption and an adoption is finalized. Kamiyah/Alexis was NEVER relinquished for adoption, she was kidnapped. How disgusting of anyone to suggest that Shanara Mobley gave away her own baby. Words mean things, use them properly.
And of course it will take time to sort this out and for the relationships to grow and be sorted out. That doesn't mean that Kamiyah/Alexis will never have a relationship with her mom. Only time will tell how it turns out.
Praying for kamiya and her biological mothers relationship. Its as if she resents her mother but not the woman who kidnapped her.
Nevada Troxler i agree. But I also understand that she loves the woman who raised her, and doesn’t really know her biological mother. I saw her on Iyanla today and I understand why the relationship with the biological mother is difficult. She requested they go on the show, then decided not to show up, basically abandoning her. Her bio mother expects her to hate the woman who raised her, and that’s unrealistic and unfair to that young girl. The woman who raised her should never get out of jail, so I’m not defending her. However, if her biological parents want a genuine relationship with her, they will have to try to support Kamiya and not get upset that she loves the woman who raised her. None of this is her fault, and they shouldn’t expect her to immediately hate the only mother she’s ever known just because she now knows the truth.
Accepting her biological mum in her mind is a betrayal of who raised her, she is still in denial. SHe is afraid of confronting the fact as she will lose her identity..who will she be afterwards?? It is complicated..
It’s not that she is disloyal. I believe she is too immature to absorb all this. It’s too much to be thrown on an adolescent. Our brains aren’t even fully formed til the early twenties.To her, Gloria is her mother, so she protects her.
@@flydiva8 Kamiyah resents her birth mother. If it wasn’t for her she would still have her mother. She wouldn’t be in jail, etc.
Her mom probably feels some type of way that the daughter still wants a relationship with the kidnapper but she cant really blame her the woman raised her & seems to have done a good job.
Wow I can't beleive how many "women" feel this way...I wonder would you be singing the same tune if it was your child smh
Her biological mom has actually chosen not to be apart of Kamiyahs life
If your world was destroyed from someone taking your child would you feel alright as long as the child was provided for? This is NOT OKAY. Pedophiles also “love” children....I guess that’s okay too by your logic.
TORRIE. Well duh! How would you feel if your child taken away!!!!?????
She did a good job??? You can’t be serious. The woman kidnapped a baby from her birth mother. You can’t get any worse than that.
SHE'S so pretty!!!
154angel154 she really is. I kept saying that when I watched her on Fix My Life.
154angel154 she is!
Yes but she wasn’t pretty as a baby lol
ESBEAUTII You sound absurd!!!
ESBEAUTII some things are better left unsaid! That wasnt even necessary
Kamiyah will never understand the pain her mothers feels until her, herself is a mother!
Though I am no longer in Jacksonville I remember this well and never forgot this baby, prayed for her and her family. I am happy she is home and I will continue to send prayers her way.
Dad looks like DMX Glad she is back home SAD that happened
RICH SOUL I was thinking the same thing.
Yea the skinny version😂
RICH SOUL
He does!
YES HE DOES, JUST A LIL BETTER LOL
lmaooo
She's acting and compartmentalizing. There is no way anyone can be over this kind of trauma so soon. If you notice she speaks of the whole ordeal in past tense.
She is just like me. Many things don't break me down. People think am abnormal
Teasha Stewart To her there was no Trauma , the lady that raised her Is her Mother to her, so she doesn’t know she’s damaged.
If she had been abused or something, I would call it traumatic. But the fact that she was raised in a loving home, regardless of the issue at hand, doesn't make her feel sad, I guess. It is not her fault she was stolen at 8 days old and grew up thinking her kidnapper was her mom.
@@samettamthompson it’s still traumatic whether she was abused or not. That is an extremely hard thing to go through, especially when you’re SIXTEEN. Then losing the person you think is your mother at eighteen, and having to deal with all of that.
She is not acting,it only depend on how you approach situation
Shes pretty and looks just like her dad. The birth mother has endured a lot of pain. Mother daughter relationships can be strained even when the mother raises the child from birth and live together
Matata
+Ms ch Shanara Mobley is NOT a "birth mother". A "birth mother" is a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption, and an adoption of the child to someone else is finalized.
Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped, not adopted. Don't use words for her mother that insinuate that she caused her daughter's abduction. She didn't. Only the kidnapper caused it.
Ms ch she does look like her dad.
Ms ch. Very true.
she look like her mother when she was younger
The kidnapper is still going to be in contact with the victim. I wonder why no one realized that this woman kidnapped a baby.
Mona Starr, I agree that the law should further punish her with a restraining order keeping her from contacting the victim. Unfortunately, the victim is an adult and chooses to be in contact with her captor. I think that's the reason why the victim didn't reveal she was kidnapped when she first learned the truth because she was a minor at the time. What amazes me is that no one in the kidnappers life realized that she didn't give birth to a child. I'm guessing the news coverage on a baby being stolen from a hospital never reached the area that the kidnapper lived in. If I knew someone was a nurse (or any hospital employee), the nurse claimed to be pregnant, and around the time the nurse gave birth, a baby is kidnapped from a hospital, I would have suspicion and would compare the baby's appearance to the kidnapped baby.
Mona Starr thank you for telling me about the kidnapper having a miscarriage. I didn't know she was once pregnant. The guy claimed that while he was in jail or prison, the kidnapper claimed that she was pregnant with his child. He figured she got pregnant before he went to prison and found out about the pregnancy after he was locked up. The guy trusted the kidnapper with all his heart because the baby didn't look like him or her. Most people would get a DNA test, but I guess he felt like the kidnapper was faithful and could do no wrong.
L B they realised but it’s her choice and if that’s what she wants then it has to be accepted
Fajr's Life, please elaborate. Who realized what? What's the choice and who's the her?
L B It’s kamayiah choose to have a relationship with her kidnapper. How can you blame her?
Because of things like this I NEVER allowed my baby to be in the nursery when I had him and when he had to go into the nursery to get test ran on him, me and his father were right there! I’d be damn if someone tried to take my child after all that labor and delivery pain and 9mons of hard work carrying him! Psst!
Yesss!
West African Goddess
Yes. I was watching another video and this guy was saying that when you give birth you should always have a family members with you so he can guard the baby when he arrives. Keep an eye on what the doctors are doing and making sure everything is ok.
Karen Littlejonh 7
Right. I have 2 boys and I did the same
She will never understand how her mother feels until she has children of her own.
I just had my baby girl three weeks ago. I can't even imagine the pain the mom felt/feels... I'm so glad my husband stayed with our child the whole time in the hospital
I cant believe how she cursed out Iyanla on fix my life. No ma'am!
Clunie Milhomme whaaat forreal?
shaela s. Yes she was super disrespectful and even threaten to "slap that old b@#$". Search for the new season trailer you'll see it.
Clunie Milhomme lord have mercy. I wonder if it has anything to do with her new family and "fame" getting to her head
Actually it doesn't air until March the 3rd. Right now you can only see clips. Check on OWN Network. From the looks of it her reaction has nothing to do with her new family or fame being a negative influence at all. She is hurting very much from this entire ordeal. And it shows.
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the biological mother, oh man feel bad for knowing the daughter still love her kidnapper
Home girl said she was gonna shoot ilyana and all the things she does to “bxtxhes” and people are saying this woman raised her right 🤔. And her father has eight other kids 🤯
Dannie Bee ecactleee! this lil gurl off da chain!!
ikr!!!
They lost just like she is. Lol
Real talk
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
This should be a movie.
Evete Nagbe it was a movie
Evete Nagbe Im sure there will be soon..sad
Sybil Dunigan I think you're thinking about the Carlina White story that came out some years ago..
It was. Keke Palmer played Carina White so it’s been done before.
It is
8 other children!? DAAAAMN . . .
@Moni Star
✊🏾💪🏾👍🏾✊🏾
Thats what married people do
8 yes...but he's not an Dead Beat... he's being a father and nit an baby daddy...
Moni Star THANK YOU!! the nerve of ppl to speak on what someone else chooses to do with their lives. Those same individuals never speak on the bs in their lives.
MiMi Ortiz ur point?
Who’s here after watching fix my life
Myesha Nealon 💯
She seems VERY different now 😞. Seems like she’s been around very different people. I hope she goes to college like her kidnapper told her to.
Daesha & Lakeeya I was thinking the same thing
Daesha & Lakeeya ...... They just said her dad's wife is the one who encouraged her to go to college.
Lisa Davis in the article that is written online. Her kidnap Mommy told her to promise to go to college. That’s what I was referring to.
she wouldn't be able to get financial aid with no ssn....
Lol , that’s JACKSONVILLE Florida for you 😭 I have her on snapchat and her real family that she lives with now in Florida are so ratchet ! So that may be why she seems like a whole different person
She said she’s dealt with the pain but say... I don’t want to talk about it. There’s still pain there
It’s sad how young minded some of the people in this world are. Everyone agreeing with one another saying how it were “better for the kidnapper to keep/raise her” like you guys know how her personality would be if her mother were able to raise her. Y’all(who agree with that statement) have to really think about that.. in reality, it was definitely wrong for the kidnapper to take this mother’s daughter from her, period.. her own mother probably could’ve raised her better than what the kidnapper did...and her life would still be just as great. Point is, you can’t say what was better for this girl, when you don’t even know what or how it would’ve been if the crime never happened. At the end of the day nobody really knows & you can’t say that the kidnappers false actions were right just because this girl turned out to be mature.. what she did was wrong, despite how this girl turned out.. Imagine you in the mother’s position, see things from her perspective.. would you still believe others when they it were better for the kidnapper to keep?
Noel• Louise first real talk on here. you are so right but, this is the crazy days we are living in now days sad!
Noel• Louise maybe it's bcse an almost 40 yr old man has a mouthful of gold teeth and 8 kids.
vixenmrb dumbest comment on here
Noel• Louise her bilogical parents look like drug addicts
andrew carson Thus why i want Gloria out..
She talks just like her real mother.
Exactly and looks just like her dad man this is just too sad praying for them and there baby girl for the family too be close and my heart goes out too them all.
Wow, she looks just like the birth mom when she was younger!! They even have the same voice!! At 0:56 thats the birth mom!! I actually thought it was the girl for a sec until I saw the beauty marks on the face. Its also so odd she got away with this. Hospitals have cameras everywhere......I don't get how you can snatch a baby and not be seen by at least one camera.
N. Calhoun-I really do believe there is more to this story. I had my son in 1993 and there were sensors in his pampers. Kamiyah is younger than him technology should have better.
This lady had help. She took this baby because the mother was only 16.
EDDAISHA FINCH yupp i agree
N. Calhoun those were acne scarsand she actually resembles Gloria very much so...idk what u are looking at because this girl looks nothing like Shamara(birthmom) at all
Plus she just shows up with a baby one day and all her friends and family are like "oh okay". No one questions her???? If I just randomly showed up with a newborn everyone would be like ummmm who's is that and where did it come from
Why that baby picture look like that....
imani edwards right, you would think she half Asian and would have a big wide nose.
imani edwards look like someone drew her eyebrows on as a baby right
African children have different features at birth lol
imani edwards like damn zaddy
imani edwards its hit
WOW! I have never heard of such a scary, sad, yet happy story when it relates to a baby being stolen...
How do you even process this?
Here BIRTH mother spent years traumatized and during the same time the woman that took her baby took care of the child?
WHAT A CRAZY REAL STORY!!! WOW
Shanara Mobley is NOT a "birth mother", she is Kamiyah's/Alexis' MOTHER. A "birth mother" is a mother who signs papers to relinquish her child for adoption, and an adoption of the child to other people is finalized.
Shanara Mobley did not give away her baby. Her baby was kidnapped.
Klove The Lou I don't think she was that traumatized her daughter found her on Facebook 2 years before and the lady hung up on her then called her back a year later to say happy birthday? I think she be grateful the lady took care of her . I doubt if she would have been the same person if the birth mother had raised her .... she was only 16
Apparently, children who are stolen are usually well taken care of. It's crazy, but this is a comment I've heard from a law enforcement officer in a different documentary covering a story like this. My heart goes out to the biological mother. At the same time, it's beautiful that she got to reunite with her daughter. I pray that their relationship grows stronger - it will take time.
Gloria, you broke the bond between the birth mother and daughter. The closeness has NOT been established and probably never will.
There is no "birth mother", because Kamiyah/Alexis was KIDNAPPED, not adopted.
Idc how she talks now. Some of you guys are so disgusting for those comments. She was traumatized. This is the type of trauma that makes people lose it and here she is happy. She feels loved, she’s finding her place in her real family and she still has dreams and excitement for her future. That’s a blessing.
Kamiyah is A Very Wise Young Lady ❤😊🙏😇
A whole different Kamiyah came out on Iyanla......so very disrespectful !
She's dealing with a lot. Is she even getting counselling and therapy? The state of Florida and/or the state of South Carolina should really fund that for her, so that she can have some assistance in healing from what she has been put through.
No Kamiyah suffered the most. Imagine you find out for 18years you have been living your life a lie and the mom who raise you in jail and this other lady you dont know is your bio mom. She has to give Kamiyah time. I live this life but wasnt kidnapped.
I was raised by my step Mom. The woman who raised me is my only Mom. I will never accept my birth Mom as a Mom. The most traumatic thing anyone could do to the girl is throw the only Mom she knows in jail. I'm not defending her and not saying she doesn't belong in jail because she absolutely does. But that decision will always be traumatic to the daughter. She needs her Mom who raised her and doesn't have her. People thinking with emotion instead of logic are only thinking about the birth family and not the best interest of the girl.
@@christinebaker7311 I agree with you.
Author Tonya D Simmons I was raised by my step mother and met my birth Mom when I was 17. The biggest mistake the birth parents make is being overly posseive and treat you like property. The subconscious mind of the chills doesn't know the difference between illegal kidnapping, legal adoption or being lovingly raised by a step parent. Bonding and attachment issues are thicker than blood 100% of the time. Locigally, yes they belong to the birth parents but subconsciously, the birth parents will always be strangers. There is such thing as "too late".
Miss the mother she had a great childhood
I hope the media stop giving this young lady press. After watching her on "Iyanla". This young lady needs help, love, as well as guidance.
This is such an amazing young lady with such a big hear and spirit. Very understanding. So much good I could say about her she's amazing.
Lock her up and throw away the key! Wish someone would take my child from me for 18 years and think she can get a slap on the wrist when i got 18 years GONE. Only reason the 'daughter' doesnt want her 'mother' to be locked up is because she has been MANIPULATED
I love her voice it’s hella raspy 😍❤️
Riri Eli weirdo
Me too,, I sing so I would love having that Rasp!
She sounds like Trina the rapper
Tiana Ray it sounds like cardi b
She sounds like fantasia
I went to school with her in Walterboro at Colleton high school I couldn't believe it but shes very a amazing person inside and out
I'm just honestly love how her dad is with her in the back during this interview ..... and through all the interviews that shes been through.....
I feel like this is going to tear her up inside. She may be smiling for the camera, but that woman has raised her...as her own. And there is no amount of distance that will keep them two away from each other. She is a gown woman, and she will travel to see her mother in jail. She will always think of her. And, her real mother will always be upset about. Kamiyah will never be honest with her real mother because it will hurt her feelings to listen about another woman/kidnapper that raised her. Its going to be hard.
This girl is definitely being naive about the situation. Kidnapping is a serious crime...whether with good intentions or not. There are other ways to help a child...that’s why certain laws are in place (not saying they always work out for the benefit of the child). But this is devastating. And like one of comments below, how didn’t anyone know or figure out this woman stole this child? Woman just pops up with all documentation with new baby? I just don’t understand. Something just doesn’t sound right.
Ameerah Jones I feel like her whole family knew she kidnapped her. It was all over the news her baby picture was everywhere. So I don't understand how nobody didn't know.
Ameerah Jones according to google, kidnapper mom had a stillborn at 9months so she posed as a nurse and kidnapped the baby. Then she forged documents. Kidnapper mom eventually confessed to Kamiyah. Kamiyah told ppl and someone snitched.
Ameerah Jones idk it seems like she's liking the camera time & attention to me. & she's mad disrespectful, her attitude is toxic af. Mm.
Ameerah JonesYeah, I don't think Kamiyah really realizes how serious this is (mostly because she's so young). The kidnapper is obviously not quite all there, mentally, and when she gets out, who's to say she won't do it again? How does Kamiyah know she won't kidnap her "grandchild/ren" like she did Kamiyah? In my opinion, Gloria Williams shouldn't be allowed around any children.
Ameerah Jones well she was expecting a baby but the baby died. She never told anyone that she lost the baby.... She was out of her mind
Why couldn't they just say other children? Always shade smh.
Michelle Smith lmao
LMAOO right
Hahahahahahahhahaha RIGHT!!!!! & the way she said "8" was tew much! LOL
They know black men have alot of children ,no secret
Right 8 other lol
-‘ My heart goes out to her real mother
I PRAY her biological mother and her can find that neutral ground and heal their relationship.
Well she's trying but she's in jail for raising her kid
How did she leave the hospital as a nurse with a newborn baby? Why didnt nobody notice this chick wasnt really a nurse? Nobody passed her in the halls and wondered when she started working there? This says ALOT about this "hospital"
Truth be told... Only GOD knows why HE allowed this thing to happen. He could have actually used this issue to SAVE her from something evil, ugly, and SICK. GOD sees ALL... Knows all. I feel like she's BLESSED to be able to process the ordeal and walk in forgiveness. She is being strong..... But even more than that.... The child is being Christ-Like. I'm so glad GOD is with her. Many children do not love and respect their birth mothers very much if at all. God has a plan for us all... His will be done. GLORY TO GOD!
Laura Butler i thought i was the only one thinking that...her mama was 16 no education n her daddy was an alcoholic who went to prison...sorry it happen but im actually glad aint no telling what her life what have been like....smh
No one knows the mind of GOD....GOD allowed Job to suffer❤was it good or bad
Laura Butler say whattt
Ummm I would agrèe but I disagree. The moms life turn out great. She's not rather and seems humble. I hope when it happens to u u feel the same way
Plus the kidnapper was a criminal which now makes ur statement invalid.
Can someone explain this to me because I truly don't understand? She is old enough to understand what the lady took from her and her biological parents. She is older enough to understand that the kidnapper did was a crime. She is old enough to let by gone be by gone (when it comes to the woman that kidnapped her, lied to her) all because she wasnt physically verbally emotionally cruel to her. So she still get best mother of the year award. But her biological mother who did anything wrong is still going through hell because she considers the kidnapper more as a mother than her biological mother. Smh
News always covers up what's really going on
She has such a positive outlook on life. You go girl! Don’t let this take your life!
I’m just mind blown on how someone can pull off the crime for 18 years.....
Nah I think she puts on a face of bravery. She dying inside smh…
@@queenshay Nah, she's not. In her mind, she has a mother who is in prison, 18 years is long enough to build a bond that cannot just be terminated overnight. Her biological mother and her lifestyle is strange to her. The fact that her biological mother doesn't want to accept her relationship with the woman who raised her makes their relationship difficult. Her father is easygoing about the whole situation, probably because he was not affected the same was her mother was. I feel bad for her biological mother, she found her daughter but the daughter can't terminate her bond with the woman who stole her because she's had her for the first 18 years of life.
@@Tee1312Jay I completely agree. The biological mother is emotional and hostile. The kidnapper is loving and easygoing. Kamiyah wasn't raised with the strife of the ghetto. Her life has been polar opposite. Her birth mother scares her and turns her off. The father is playing it cool and is friendly to her, so she feels more comfortable there. His energy is easier for her to connect with bc it is a familiar energy.
That's crazy! I'm glad she's a healthy young lady, she seems very strong. The real loss is for her bio mother because she will never feel that connection having grown up apart. No body can tell her how to feel for the women that kid napped her and raised her.
Thank God she knows the Lord im sure that helps
My mom left when I was a baby and I met her as an adult. I'm closer with my step mom than her. I hold no ill will towards her, I just feel bad for her because she has no relationship with any of her kids. I feel sorry for Kamiya's real mom-I hope they have a good relationship
Had to make it about you didn't you :D
Her and birth mother have a long road because she feels she’s replacing the mother she knows. With dad it’s easier to accept him since she grew up without one and he spoils her which is what she’s used to. I can’t imagine what the birth mother is going through but this is heartbreaking as a mother to even think about.i pray both kamaiyah and the mother Shanara get the healing they need, esp the birth mother Shanara. She is this biggest victim in this to me
There is no "birth mother", because Kamiyah/Alexis was kidnapped, not adopted! The term "birth mother" was invented for adoption situations and ONLY applies to those.
TheYasmineFlower I want trying to be technical on the label.it is her birth mother because that is what the young lady identifies her as.but thanks theres really no debate on this
This is crazy to me. I need the mother behind bars to do an interview. She’s not obligated but she has A LOT questions to be answered. Just to think the young lady was raised 200 miles away.. not too far away from her biological parents.
So sad she still consider that monster a damn mother lock her up and never give her the 🔐
Cherry Berry ever thought she was Kidnapped and I don’t agree with what this lady did. But ask yourself what is a mother? What is a good mother? Her kidnapper was a good mother to her and because of that she will always love this lady. Sad but true.
This gurl.... smh and she was so disrespectful to iyanla
I feel bad for her because it does seem like she is just trying to please everyone and she's young so I don't think she can grasp the actual pain it was for her real mother to have her infant baby who she had just given birth to stolen away from her. I also feel so sad for the birth mom who did nothing wrong and got the short end of the stick all the way around
I agree this young woman basically has no problems. She just has to follow the plan Gloria set out for her College, profession, job. However, she has to make her self a vessel of kindness for the family she was stolen from and feel their pain. My uncles wife has a saying thank God I was a slave because I would not want to be an African right now.
Kamiyah has grown up in a good home with money. Her hair is always laid and that's what she's used to. Gloria was an excellent mother but she is a psychopath we suppose. Some nurse may have given her the baby because of the circumstances of the family and the fact that she was simply an adorable adorable baby with limited life chances. It worked but technology has advanced and she needed her documents to get a job. However from my perspective there is nothing wrong with Kamiyah. Why should there be? At this point Kamiyah must be a vessel between the two families and get them to show mercy towards Gloria. However Gloria does deserve some jail time not even for her but as a deterrence to others who might try it.
Yea yea her real nothing went through "pain" so much "pain" she wants nothing to do with her that is why when you break a wrist you have your wrist removed because of the pain right? I broke my worst twice and made the Mistake of keeping my wrist that healed and no longer hurts for about 20 years now I mean its not like she's supposed to love her right??? Wait........
She is so cute and energetic awww😍😍❤️❤️❤️ but it doesn't matter if the kidnapper gave her a good life. It's ILLEGAL and EVIL. Adopt your own baby!!
Alexas cute?? lol watch iyanla you might think again about how cute she really is..threatening to stab iyanla is defo not cute!
Gloria Williams should have gotten a life sentence... Not only did she destroy Kamiyah's life but her biological parents/family lives too!!!!!!!
After seeing her on Iyanla, I have no compassion for this girl.
NONE
She sounds so intelligent and has beauty in her heart. So happy that her bio mom has found her.
She is a very strange girl. She LOVES to be the center of attention and does not want that to end. She's loud and goofy. She seems like she would be obnoxious to be around.
Tears for the Birth Mom and Birth Dad hope she gets the True Help she needs.Prayers up for All.
After watching the Iyana episode and then seeing this, I am wondering if the young lady is bipolar. There is more going on with her than this.
Tanisha Powers no not bipolar it took a lot for her to flip I’m bipolar and it only takes a couple seconds for me to go off on someone speaking to me like that
Blessing to her and her extended family!!!
I feel bad for the fake dad.
TY Ty isn't that her real dad
David Brennan lol oh my God please don't confuse me LOL.. the one with the gold fronts is the real dad, and the one in South Carolina is the fake dad LOL
Its her real Dad
She’s an amazing young woman. The best is yet to come💕👑✨
She's still trying to figure out who she is as a person! Kidnapped at birth! she was living out a lie until she got justice now she's still searching for herself!
Gosh can you imagine the heartbreak that her mom goes through?. This monster steals her baby than her baby is loyal to the kidnapper. Such a nightmare
Kamiyah is so angry, lost, and confused about her identity. She stills yearns for Gloria, her "mother" who is incarcerated. The deep mother-daughter relationship she had with Gloria from infancy cannot simply be erased and be replaced by her natural mother...Sharana, irrespective of the crime committed.
When the truth is revealed, it hurts and at times unbearable. But only the "truth will set you free."
Lets pray: Heavenly Father, the great shepherd of our souls, please find your three daughters (Shanara, Gloria, and Kamiyah) in the dark corners they are sitting in, scoop them up in your loving strong arms, break every chain that keeps them in their prison and set them free. Let there be forgiveness, divine love and healing among these three women that only you can do. What the enemy meant for evil, turn it into good, for your purpose and glory.
Help Shanara to find completeness in you so that she can completely love and forgive Gloria. Help Gloria seek your forgiveness, to forgive herself and ask forgiveness of Shanara. Help Kamiyah with her identity struggles. Let her know that her true identity is found in you. She is a child of the King, a precious daughter of the most High God. Fill her with your unconditional love, peace, goodness and kindness. Renew a right spirit within her.
Bring a supernatural reconciliation and a miraculous loving, kind, forgiving relationship between these three women and their family like only you can do. For nothing is impossible for you. In Jesus' name, Amen.
I absolutely love how deep this beautiful queen Loves. That is God given. I pray for all hearts in this case.
This is what I told her mom.....The baby was probably better off with the lady that raised her. Sometimes we pray for things that God is trying to protect us from. This is sad but to be honest this was destined..Kamitah probably would have been that disrespectful daughter that gave you hell..or maybe God was protecting her from YOU mom...you seem a little heartless..I know it's wrong but at least she raised her and took good care of her. What she done was selfish in your eyes but life is not all about you mom. Maybe you should forgive the lady and understand WHY she did what she did. Don't be so COLD HEARTTED. You can learn from her how to LOVE. SHE DIDN'T KILL HER and she didn't hurt her..she LOVED what your little fast tail at 16 COULDN'T!! SO BE THANKFUL...let's not point fingers okay!!
oh, looking at the pics I see the woman that abducted Kamiyah had 2 sons before she got Kamiyah, so that makes her even more scandalous for SNATCHING someone else's damn child...she already had kids so she knew what it was like being a mother, and the bond you feel towards your child even BEFORE they're born...she may of raised Kamiyah well but that doesn't excuse all the hurt she's caused so many people...that shit was just plain selfish and self serving...smh...
All you can do.....is lift this young woman up in prayer.
It's messed up her real mom had to suffer and still has too. I feel for her in this situation. As a mom it's hurting me to see her acknowledge the other woman and not stop to think that her real mother suffered. To seem careless about her real moms feelings. That woman who raised her is a monster! And it's sad to say that this girl is just soaking up the fam and the cameras with this. Totally different from Carolina whites story. So sad
IK 2 years later & I’m still commenting😂 but saying the fact that I’m pregnant now, I couldn’t imagine carrying my baby full term, feeling all her kicks, building an emotional connection in the womb, & have her lay on my chest after delivering her & have her stolen 8 hours later. No words can describe her mother’s hurt and pain. The daughter will realize & deal with it better when she has a child of her own & can mentally put herself in her mothers shoes while in the hospital room & imagine her baby getting stolen from her. That might be the only way for them to have a better relationship. My heart still hurts for the mother. That lady deserves to be locked away for good.
Stole a baby from a 16 year old girl smh they poor mother
at least she TREATED her GOOD and really treated her as her own she fits in GREAT with her real family
She is an amazingly strong sensible and beautiful young lady. I can see her being the one to help everyone through this transition.
"healing her relationship" with her biological mother, kamiyah? there was never a relationship, lady. she does have a continuing relationship with gloria, despite the latter's being in jail. that relationship cannot and shd not be erased for the sake of kamiyah.
I saw her on Iyanla Fix My Life being VERY disrespectful. I’m hoping they just edited it like that bc it was only a preview but if she really was she needs to calm down! I know her “fake mom” didn’t raise her like that. And ya’ll can say what y’all want. That lady was wrong but at least when she took her she did right by raising her as far as it goes.
Fake mom lol but seriously
You sound stupid
D Matt you have no idea how she was raised! She said she fights grown women on Iyanla’s show.
She’s suffering PTSD and anxiety I’ve seen this in action she needs help
D Matt ikr! I was like ewww she's so disrespectful. Its sad
I’m glad she’s balancing things well. I hope that she goes to college like she was told and grows up to achieve more
I have to say that she seems to be well adjusted. And although she was kidnapped and not adopted I think that a lot of issues may be the same as adopted children who reunite with their birth family. Most have a honeymoon period in the very beginning and then relationships turn rocky until everyone settles into their new relationships. I was adopted and it's definitely been a long road to feeling like a family. With some it is as if we've always been together and with others it's been much harder. And as a mom of a child I birthed as well as three I didn't, I can relate to the need to mother your child even when that child is an adult. Then to add the feelings of anger that her child was taken from her, that's something that I can't comprehend. I feel so torn about an appropriate punishment for the woman who kidnapped her. Only because she apparently gave her a good life. And even though it was wrong, how is the girl supposed to turn her feelings off and reject her? I do wonder how the daughters feelings will be when she becomes a mother herself. I pray for her and her parents, and the judge who will have to determine an appropriate punishment. And I pray that in time she and her birth mother will heal and have a good relationship
madree p well said , I could imagine what her biological mom is going through. . . she missed out on all them years , her childhood etc , im sorry to say but if she kidnapped her for 18 years , the mom lost her for 18 years , then with all due respect she should get no less then 18 years .
It's My Life it's not the same thing at all, but I suspect Kamiyah must have similar feelings as a person who was adopted. Because no matter how it happened, she is having to accept that the person she has always known as her mother is not. And she's an adult, a young adult who is getting to know this new family and finding her place in it. And I'm sure that her true mother is devastated by Kamiah's support of the woman who kidnapped her. Who wouldn't be? To her mother she's still the baby that she lost almost 20 years ago. She's an adult now, one who makes her own decisions and already has her own thoughts and beliefs. She is at that age where we all think that we're grown and are capable of making our own decisions. My twins that are not my biological children are the same age as her. They're 19, and will be 20 in April. One lives over an hour away, and his twin moved to a different state more than 24 hours away by car. And I don't like it at all. I want them to be home with me so that I can continue to mother them. I worry about the choices that they are making. I want to know where they are all of the time, who their friends are. If they're eating enough and are on top of their health. They can't stand it. They think that they don't need me to do those things for them anymore. And they really don't. But my heart doesn't know it. My heart beats for my children. Just because they're adults does not mean that my role changed the moment they turned 18. I still see them as my babies. Their mom got her life together around the time that they started school. They went back to live with her and split their time between both of us. It was a hard adjustment for everyone. Our kids had to get to know her and her rules and expectations. She had a lot of bitter feelings towards me and my relationship with the kids. And I didn't have the best feelings towards her either. We're not friends but we tolerate one another. She raised them completely different than I did. She exposed them to things that I didn't think that they should have been exposed to. Our daughter had severe asthma due to her prematurity that she fortunately grew out of but when she was still very young I didn't trust her mom to take care of her properly. And there are little things like when our oldest son who's 22 graduated from high school he only got four tickets to graduation and she gave them to her family. And she posed in pictures of him in his cap and gown with his father who was in prison from before he was born and had just gotten out a few months earlier. And all these people commented about what great parents they were when honestly neither of them were involved. He was older than the twins when they all went back to live with her and he spent more time with me. I paid all of their sports fees and went to their games. I went to their practices. I was at parent teacher conferences and doctor appointments. And it's a hard pill to swallow when the person who wasn't there for the small stuff is the one who's there for the big moments. And it's not the same situation at all but how must Kamiah's mother feel when she looks at photos or Kamiah talks about things that she did with her "mother" or "family"? She has to be hurt and angry. Because she should have been there. I'm sorry, I talk too damn much. I am not trying to excuse the crime and am not trying to diminish the feelings that her mother has. Not at all. My heart breaks for her. I have no sympathy for the woman who stole her. None at all. But I can empathize with her mother and her because of my own experiences as a mother of children who has missed out on so much, but also as a daughter of both of my mothers. My birth mother was murdered 31 years ago when I was 10. And I often struggle with my feelings for her. Because I feel guilty or like I'm betraying the mother who raised me when I speak of my birth mother or mourn her death. I'm always worried that I will hurt my mom's feelings. She says that she knows how much I love her and that me loving my birth mother doesn't mean that I love her more or wish that I could have had my birth mother longer. My mom is my mom. All of my memories are of her. I'm blessed to have her and would never have wanted it to be different. The difference is that I knew my mom. I knew why I wasn't raised by her. And I wasn't kidnapped. Unless it was by the state when they put me in foster care and terminated my parent's rights. No matter how my mom came to be my mom I would still always love her. She's who I know. And we didn't have a lot of material things, but she loved me and raised me to be a good person. And I can't imagine having to feel differently. Which is why I wonder how Kamiyah will feel when she becomes a mother herself and feels that love that only a mother can feel for their child. Will she start to feel angry about the woman who kidnapped her? Because I don't see her real mother and her having a great bond and relationship if Kamiyah never cuts ties with her kidnapper. I think that's why she has a better relationship with her dad. He's not focused on her relationship with the woman who kidnapped her. He's just enjoying today and looking forward to tomorrow. It doesn't matter if the kidnapper was executed, there's no punishment in the world that will give them back what was stolen from them. I respect everyone's opinions as well. I'm just trying to explain why I feel the way that I do. I am not excusing what happened at all. But I understand why Kamiyah can't hate the woman who she thought was her mother.
Same to you. I also hope that she receives a sentence that the family feels is fair. She took a plea deal but the judge hasn't sentenced her yet as far as I know
Kidnapping amd adoption arw two different things.
+madree p You know that Kamiyah/ALexis wasn't adopted, yet you use adoption terminology to describe her mother. As though Shanara had given away her baby - she didn't. Her baby was kidnapped. Ergo, she is not and can not be a "birth mother", period.
She's a hurt young woman and needs therapy. She keeps putting off the fact that her kidnapper mom pulled the ultimate crime. She's suppressing her true feelings and that's why she declines to talk about certain things. I feel sad for her, hopefully one day she will be able to heal
Whether or not she was raised right, it doesn't excuse the fact that she was kidnapped!! You don't kidnap other people's children!!!
I feel she knew and that’s why she taking it so well you can definitely tell she’s closer with the dad.... wish her the best beautiful young girl
She’s soo beautiful but soooo confused with her life
I love how positive she is!!! Such a beautiful soul
Jasmine Adrianna' watch iyanla and rethink your comment..lol
BrexitCub 38 i know lol. Ive watched it
It was better for the kidnapper to adopt
ESTELLA VERDIER you're an idiot. Lmao
It's My Life How do you kidnap a mouth to feed and then can't?!? 🤔 smh
true !!!
She so positive after it all I love that
She did a good job raising her
Chassidy Douglas I was thinking the same thing. At least she had a happy childhood.
Chassidy Douglas YES LET'S APPLAUD THE KIDNAPPER FOR DOING A GOOD JOB RAISING A CHILD WHO WAS STOLEN FROM A MOTHER WHO LOST YEARS OF FIRST MOMENTS OF HER CHILD
You people are crazy as hell saying she did a good job raising her.
Um so.. She kidnapped her.
Neo SoulZ RIGHT people crazy asf!
I was born and raised in Jacksonville and this story always haunted our city.
I can't imagine,I remember when my son was born he had to go straight to ICU and I was yelling at his Dad go with them!!Watch where they put him don't leave!!smh I think this was a big fear of mine
My children were born in university hospital. They lost me and my baby. Thanks to my husband we got found. I was in a ward surrounded by people who had arms and legs in slings
I want to know why the kidnapper did it?...thats crazy....what was her purpose?....thats crazy as hell. Just kidnapping people kids like it's normal....
How did she get braces with no social security card to prove her identity to get dental insurance? Something isn’t adding up . Schools won’t even accept students without proof of person and papers 🤦🏽♀️ the system failed her mother