Fujifilm X-H2s Firmware 3.0 Update Impressions and Examples
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2023
- YAY! Firmware 3.0 update has been released for the Fujifilm X-H2s, and I think it's a good one!
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I notice Fujifilm really advertises using zone focus in their promotional videos, and after using it more with 3.0, it seems to be much better at getting the subject than eye AF. Regardless, this 3.0 is a nice update!!! Excited to see where the future upgrades go :) Good video!!!
Dylan - exciting times! And thanks man!
Thanks for your hard work on this informative video! I have an X-T5 and I'm hoping for an update soon. I do like the splish-splash sound effects!
Hey, Donald, THANK YOU!! And maybe I'll call Hollywood about me doing sound effects for high-end movies!
awesome work fuji, thanks for reporting on your experience. It would be great to know how the focus tracking and improvements work when shooting wildlife video, in highspeed frame rates as well
aye thanks for this jerred! I'm going to send ppl your way if they ask about wildlife :D
Lol! Dude..maybe if it's a slow moving Goose! HA!
Incredible field test! Overall, impressed with the AF as shown by your shots!
Thanks, Wes - it was pretty good before, but it’s even better now!
Great video. Thanks. I just love how sticky it is while taking pictures of my 3 Rugrats
Thanks, RIcky - it's doing a great job!
The impression I got from the XH2s AF was that the hardware was there, but the firmware wasn't. I expected that to be fixed the question was how long was it going to take. I bet within 6 months, the XT5, XH2 and XH2s will achieve parity with Sony and Canon and be better than most everyone else. For video, they are already there, the eye AF is just great.
@@bbasleigh6149 "Rumour X-H2S enhanced images over X-H2?" Depends on your priorities. Higher ISO Noise, yes, resolution, no.
Thanks...excellent...i am also impressed..Fuji firmware did a great job!
I think it's really good - and probably going to get better!!!!
Nice to hear because I haven't tried this latest firmware out. I need a longer focal lens like the 70 300mm or the 100 400mm lens.
If I could take the 100 400mm out all of the time and it not be cumbersome I'm all in.
This probably is not the case, and I feel like both would be suitable.
I shoot mostly cityscape bridges in NYC and to be able to bring those bridges closer rather than to drive would be awesome.
The Hamptons, Montauk Point, Hudson Valley, The Pocono mountain, Delaware Water Gap, as well as my vacations, are why I need a long zoom.
Those geese are excellent shots Jerred, especially the one that you said lost its mind flying in low......what a shot.
Thanks so much! Yeah - I got lucky for that one shot. Those crazy geese!
Patiently waiting on an update for the X-T5
We all are!
Fuji Rumors said that the 3.0 update vastly improved hit rates for the XH2S. 61% at 40fps, but at 20fps the hit rate is 95%. The test results are posted on Fuji Rumors. Try shooting at 20fps and see what you all get. If this is true the XH2S is now a beast.
I was really looking forward to support for SSD and anamorphic lenses in this update. I have a Sirui 50mm Anamorph and would like it to be comfortable to drive, and an SSD would solve the problem with space for large Prores files.
Birds look amazing 🤩 My eyes were fixed on the splash and mist ❤ I’m probably alone in this thought but…I’d really like this sensor and focus on the X-Pro4. 👍
Oh man, that would be cool, but no way they are doing that. The Pro4 is going to be that 40 megapixel one! Right?
@@JerredZ probably…but a guy can dream 😁
I've been waiting your feedback on this firmware! Hope tomorrow DHL will deliver my H2S... Have been shooting some birds today with my XT4, in single focus point still getting great results, however, eager to try this "lazy find bird" photography features!)))
Oh man! YES! I'm definitely in the lazy "find this bird for me" camp!!!!
This is great but X-H2 and X-T5 owners are still waiting for an Auto Focus firmware update a month later!!! Please Fuji!!!!
for xh 2 and xt5 has the firmware released?
Nice! Thanks Jerred, glad you followed up with this. Maybe I'll trade in all that Canon great after all! I shoot all sorts, this is my dilemma, from street to surf, from super wide to 600mm, from very dim to cooking hot sunlight. I do worry about the APS-C in dim light!
Neal - honestly, yeah, I haven't tested it out in low light beyond just family stuff! BUT I will say it does a pretty good job in low light so far. I used to do a ton of weddings, and THOSE would be the test, right? Why are so many churches lit like dungeons? :) Thanks for watching, Neal.
@@JerredZ 'Why are so many churches lit like dungeons?'
careful ..... you might start a flame war 🙂
loved the update, its convinced me to shell out for the150-600 for my x-h2s for birding
Fuji please stack one GFX 50MP Camera sensor
Fuji please stack one GFX 50MP Camera
Hey Jerred, thanks for doing this. A couple of things;
1) I don't think the AF.C settings for things like Tracking Sensitivity, Speed Tracking Sensitivity and Zone Area Switching will have much bearing on things like the Subject Detection system for being 'rude' and jumping off the thing you're focused on and onto something else. Without having direct experience in this, for other systems all these AF.C settings were based around the idea of tracking a bird as it goes behind branches or twigs, (so that the AF doesn't quickly update to foreground woodland context etc), and instead 'chills out' and keeps focus where it was last had even though it technically doesn't have any particular point of focus currently, and waits until you're out of the branches and twigs and have reacquired the bird (so the AF.C hunting is limited and is in the general ball park to pick back up from where it was easily again). Basically it is making AF.C slow to continually update... which... would go against some scenarios like trying to capture a bird coming towards you from a pond or whatever (no foreground barriers), where you actually DO want AF.C to continually update and reacquire focus as much as possible to improve the keeper rate during this burst.
Now... you may have found a small 'hack' of sorts in that telling the AF.C to not chill a little might settle the subject detection from moving quickly onto another subject in the frame, but essentially the two things are separate I believe. This is why its not a bad idea to set up a couple of Custom User Modes with different AF.C configs for different wildlife moments. A set up for a single bird in a pond would benefit from different AF.C settings compared to trying to keep focus on a bird in a tree with trees and branches between you and it. Being able to twist that Custom mode dial from one config to another should really assist in keeper rates.
In regards to Subject Detection, we have the same issue with a person in a crowd, you can focus on them but at some point the subject detection decides to bugger off and choose a new person, it is very frustrating.
What is interesting is that it feels like such an EASY fix for any camera system to adopt. When we release the shutter button (or BBF), then let that be a sign for the system to scan for different subjects in the frame, give us that white box, let it sit for a couple of seconds on a subject before moving onto a new subject (or nudge the joystick to tell the subject detection to move to someone else). But once we ENGAGE the AF (turn that white box to green) either via half press of the shutter or using BBF then this should kill the AI subject detection from continually scanning the scene for other new subjects, we have chosen the subject, now lets keep the attention on this one.
Sony systems feel like they do this, you can choose a basketball player on the court, half press the shutter button and it sticks on that one person and doesn't bother hunting for anyone else till the release of that shutter button. We're not needing better AI/Subject Detection, we just need better IMPLEMENTATION. It feels like such an easy code change to make. If this approach somehow wouldn't work for some users then even a simple new setting entry would suffice;
Restrict Subject Detection Scanning when AF engaged - On/Off
2) ES mode is apparently better for this kind of stuff. 20fps or 30fps should yield a better percentage keeper rate per second. So imagine if you're using 8fps mechanical vs 30fps ES, then of that 1 second with 8fps, you might get 4 in focus and 4 out, thus a 50% keeper rate per second, but with ES mode, because it is so fast the synchronisation of the split second focus acquisition won't be such an issue, it'll miss the shots the same as 8fps missed, but then also have the shots that preceded losing focus (and after once it reacquired) to make up for it. So I believe this was tested already against other systems. Sony might have a higher percentage of shots in focus per second, but because we can shoot MORE shots per second we actually end up with more images in focus per second vs other brands. More culling but at least more shots to choose from in focus.
I was hesitant to upgrade from the XT4 to XH2S, this f/w update has convinced me enough that this AF upgrade is now worth the price of upgrading.
LOL, I told you so... 🙂 Hardware's there, firmware needed updating.
@@EdwardMartinsPhotography Actually... our conversations have really been centered around resolution and not AF performance, and I find it interesting that this f/w release has been specific to the XH2S (the one I have always had my eye on the most) and not generic to encompass all three recent body releases. My guess is that what applies here cannot automatically apply to the other two X Trans 5 bodies (because they likely can't cope). Fingers crossed they also get a boost in AF because daily I am seeing more and more reports of disappointed XT5/XH2 owners. What is interesting is some are replacing their new XH2/XT5 bodies with another one from the store and reporting that their later serial body version is not exhibiting the same AF problem as the earlier serial production units they had before, so perhaps some support to the idea that the QC or lemon theory is actually there...
I quote from a post from a Marta Franco 15hrs ago;
"Being one of the several people who complained about the X-T5 AF issues, I would like to say that there is hope. I've returned the camera and tried a new one, which is as perfect as my old X-T4. Life is good again😁... The old camera had a very low serial number, the new one is a bit newer; the first was bought in a local store, the other online but apart from that, I can see no difference. Maybe it was just a lemon."
Do note they said 'as good as XT4', I do feel the actual hit rate of the XT4 is higher in many instances compared to some of the submissions that I am seeing from XH2/XT5 owners :S
Anyway, this AF boost for the XH2 is welcomed, it probably should have been there from the get go and it's not ideal (as per my points in my post above), but recently I had such a shocking experience with the Face/Eye Detection with my XT4 (being ridiculous stubborn to detect a face in plain sight and posing for me!) that I was about to throw the camera against the wall! I did not ditch superior IQ and dynamic range of the K-1 for mediocre AF improvements, I want a damn camera that has competent AF for the EASIEST of scenarios at least, and finally this XH2S looks to being at least capable in this regard. Yes I could go Canikony but I do enjoy Fuji's colours and SOOCness and have acquired my lenses that I just want 2023 to be EASIER for me. Fingers crossed the XH2S fulfills this.
I shall head into Sydney and go to Fuji HQ and have a play with it 3.00 on their XH2S soon and make my decision then.
@@SummersSnaps I'm pretty confident that the AF improvements will also come to the XT5 and XH2. And I say that because those two cameras are Sony level AF right now for video. So as I've said the hardware is there for stills AF, the firmware needs to be tweaked.
Maybe there was a quality control issue in the first batch. The first few off the assembly line are the most likely to have issues for any product.
@@EdwardMartinsPhotography I'm sure they'll get a f/w update and it will be improved. You and I do seem to have different needs, your landscape work where 40mp will be appreciated better, can use tripod and AF isn't even a huge concern makes sense why you've went XH2/XT5 camp. (side note, have you tried pixelshifting yet?).
I still feel on an AF mission. I have enjoyed 80% of the AF perks the XT4 have brought me (for sure coming from Pentax my keeper rate is far far higher!), but there is still a part of me feeling like I want more, should expect more. I will admit that I have high standards, I still think systems should be smart enough that when I lock focus on a bride coming down the aisle or that when someone gets out of the crowd and comes up for an award/acceptance speech then the AF stays ON HER and doesn't flit elsewhere... but I can accept in instances like that it's maybe asking a bit much from Fuji and so more generic AF choices might be better (single AF point, move with joystick or just use the Wide Tracking AF.C mode etc).
But what happened recently really knocked me. Formal sessions for paid work, XF50/2 and XF90/2 (supposedly great AF glass!) and the face/eye detection under suitable non contrasty/plenty of light environments just refused to kick in and detect the person standing right in front of me and was clearly in the focus plane... the box was just super stubborn to appear and that was quite flabbergasting lol. I had never experience that level of annoyance in the 2yrs with the XT4 but it was enough to make me think about bailing out of it. My research told me to be very cautious, even Jerred's video showing some disappointing results with the XT5 and XH2 in this regard but the XH2S doesn't seem to attract the same amount of heat. I think PASM suits me more as well so an XH2S for me in 2023 is looking likely (and before my XT4 devalues too much)...
@@SummersSnaps I shot weddings with a manual focus Pentax 645 for years. I still shoot my weddings in Manual focus for most of the important shots. Bride coming down the isle: 23mm, set for 10 feet, F8, done. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot any wedding or event with an XT5, XH2 or any other modern camera. Heck I would shoot the whole thing on manual focus and not even use the AF on a bet...
The XT4 always seemed somewhat underwhelming to me in terms of processing power. It doesn't surprise me at all that the computer went on vacation for a while. The ones I had would do the same thing but I mostly saw it in auto exposure during video. The XT4 was a manual camera for me all around.
I am sure the XH2s with the new firmware is going to pretty much be as good as it gets for any brand camera. But there are limits to how far automation can go. If you just have to get the shot, manual is still where it's at in my opinion.
Shooting birds on water like that.. Isn't it single AF, at aperture f/4 - f/5.6 the depth of field can't be less than 2 meters... Manual focus would be even more reliable. I bought H2s, for video, burst speed and deep buffer for bursts... Most of my lenses are manual focus :)
sorry birds are great and all that but what about people, eyes and faces? like you did in your last test that failed in an epic way, hopefully, 3.0 will fix the issues if not be on the right track... but will this or something similar be sent to the Xh2 and XT5, looks a slight improvement but not really that good compared to the competitions 4 /5-year-old gear.
Hey Jerred! Really cool sequences and helpful info about the new firmware. I updated mine, and have not done any stress tests yet, but more confident now ;) What drive mode were you using for those photos? Thanks!
I went light - 10 fps! And thanks, Michael - have fun testing it out!!
@@JerredZ Cool! Thanks for the info.
Is a new upgrade planned for the X-H2 and X-T5?
It sounds like they will add at least some of the improvements in the X-T5 and X-H2, so we'll see how much they'll improve!
Hey Jerred, I’ve been waiting trying to decide on what new body to buy! I know camera buying is subjective, but I enjoy shooting Fuji. My concern has always been accurate autofocus and low light. Fuji’s small lens factor and affordability is what’s keeping me around! I’m still holding out hope that their technology will continue to improve! Great video, what camera did you shoot this video on?
Hey there! So for the new cameras, I think the autofocus is improved across the board in most situations, even the X-H2 and X-T5. And as for low light, do you mean high iso ability, or ability to focus in low light? And thank you for the compliment! I shot this video on either the X-h2 or X-H2s... I can't remember!
@@JerredZ Sorry let me clarify. I meant the ability to focus in low light! That’s where my XT3 seems to have issues. Low light shooting otherwise isn’t a problem, because I don’t mind a little grain in my photos! Well depending on the circumstance.
@@WelcometotheJones AH! Well, low-light focus is much, much, much better on the X-H2s specifically, but I haven't tested too much low light focus with the X-T5 and X-h2.
@@JerredZ Thanks for the information!
Is this firmware only for the xh2s or can I use it as well on the xt5 ?
Just for the X-H2s at the moment, but Fuji said they are working to update the X-T5 and X-H2 as well.
Why wouldn't they give that update to the XH2?
Totally different sensors! And it may kill the 2s….
@@gilleslast3561 Kill?! That's just ridiculous. Different sensors is correct and the update will come to the other two cameras as well.
Well, I do not claim to be a better bird photographer than you, but here are some ideas. Time of day, get out early, try and research where birds are active in your area. Big or biggish glass. Single point continuous type auto focus for older cameras. Two out of three or AV for camera settings. Odd number of birds. Remove distractions from the frame like part of birds. Birds looking a little bit towards you. Do what you can to not be there, almost all wildlife will see you before you see them, but are you a threat? Travel, Winter, and the further North you are means a longer the golden hour. Go out in the morning of the first day after bad weather, everyone is hungry. Certain times of the year have certain birds. Lake Z and bald eagles around late November. Time. Big glass on a trail, and women will talk to you.
My man! These are great tips. I also have NO patience. These birds better be ready for me to photograph or I'll leave! That's... why I'll never even remotely have great bird photos!
After 7 months of waiting Fuji finally decided that an update was necessary.
Just need an AF update for the xh2 now. Hopefully we get it by the next summit in April
@@Eyeofkamau Why didn’t Fuji just update X-H2 along with X-H2S it’s kinda strange the they do things.
@@Ishijah1 not the same sensor
@@xXliveXxds so what.
@@Ishijah1 different sensor means further tweaking. The slower readout of the X-H2 might require different algorithm adjustments. Eventually they will get something release.
Even if the sensor and everything is exactly the same they might not want to release everything at the same time. This is done all the time by software industry. Tiered rollout to see what things might break. Fix it before further deployment.