Dario Franchitti: Regrets NASCAR move?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Dario Franchitti admits he was unprepared for NASCAR - having never even stepped inside a stock car before agreeing to race professionally - and says the humbling experience helped him later back on the IndyCar circuit. Plus, Franchitti shares the story of an eight-hour contract negotiation with Chip Ganassi because he wouldn’t agree to sign a napkin.
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"The car weighs twice as much, and the tires are half as wide"
A good racing driver can drive any type of race car well. Not saying Franchitti was. But NASCRAP wasn't about to let an Italian Irishman do well in their series. Plus when you're doing ovals, driving talent isn't nearly as important as a fast, well setup car and a capable crew.
Wrong on three accounts:
1: He’s Scottish.
2: A bad driver doesn’t win 3 Indy 500s.
3: Just because we *see* them only take two left turns, doesn’t mean that’s all there is to it. Not only do you have to watch what *you’re* doing, but if you don’t pay attention to the other drivers, a crash is nothing if not certain.
EDIT: If you meant to say “wasn’t” instead of “was,” I will retract point 2.
Pleasure to listen to such a talented, humble guy....who has been at the very top of his profession....
Each motorsport class is a beast on its own. You can not expect to just come show up and win, especially if the class is totally different. Unless you are very fast learner.
I'm old enough to remember Mario Andretti, Dan Gurney & A.J. Foyt. I honestly wish Mario had won at Monaco. I still think he could win at LeMans. Imagine: Daytona 500 in 67, Indy 500 in 69, F1 World Champion in 78.
@@DucatiPaso750 i guess that makes him a triple crown winner?! Different criteria though.
Dario is a pretty awesome guy. Got to meet him back in 2004.
Met him last year awesome guy!
I find it fascinating how guys like Franchitti and even Marcus Ambrose couldn't cut it in Nascar. Shows how elite the top tier Cup guys are. Some of it has to do with equipment, sure, but the fact that amazing drivers like that couldn't even sniff success in American stock car racing is really interesting to me. People who say it's all left turns are laughable.
Playmaker Pat you cant include Ambrose in that, while he never mastered an oval he was the most dominant driver in a nascar on road courses with the highest average finishing positions overall, it forced other drivers to get alot of coaching and raised the overall quality of everyone on road courses.
It's not necessarily just oval racing, because indycars race on ovals a lot. It's more the way the car handles. Open wheel racing is more about aero grip, all downforce. Stockcars have downforce but way less so.
Ambrose had experience piloting what is basically a stock car on road courses in the V8 supercars series
Playmaker Pat Ambrose had a few wins
I think its all about experience and time. Give these open wheel racers enough time in Nascar and they will dominate eventually. Nascar drivers trying F1 cars will be a huge difficulty for them too. But given time and experience they can catch up. But I think in conclusion it’s easier to learn Nascar than circuit open wheel formula racing.
Barber's museum? Good stuff.
I met him in Pocono, June 2008. If he hadn’t done NASCAR, I wouldn’t have ever gotten to meet him.
Two things I personally think people overlook:
1. Franchitti, Ambrose and Montoya came into the sport at the dawn of the COT. I don't think the car fit any of their driving styles.
2. They all drove for teams that were subpar on ovals, if that.
I know the video only has 2 dislikes but how could you dislike any of Grahams videos/interviews
By mistake?
He only race 30 races across Cup & Nationwide series
Chap seems to be a right good bloke. NASCAR is a beast. I use to race on a dirt track when I was a Teen. I have driven on The Atlnata Motor Speedway in a Dodge.That high bank is very scarey!
The split was the reason for why INDYCAR drivers went to NASCAR because by 2007 the IRL and champ car series were both in a death spiral and all open wheel racing in America was about to go extinct inculding the INDY 500. However in 1996 Tony George never should have did his total purge and hostle takeover of the sport like he did. However I read that AJ Foyt had be pressuring Tony due to being shafted by CART with Penske and other big money owners. However that seems to be the problem with NASCAR as well.
Btw just to remind people. Tony Stewart talks about his first 20-40 stock car events he crashed every car. To the point he was questioning if he would ever get it. Then one day it clicked. That’s exactly my experience and everyone else I raced with. Now I was prepared well in legend cars on dirt/asphalt and sprint cars. So I was ahead. But going from a purpose built race car like irl or Indy. To a stock car which really has no business driving your gonna have to crash a bunch before it clicks. But I’m a firm believer any human is capable of it. It’s a matter of want and sticking with threw the growing pains. Knowing when the car is about to wash out or break is the most difficult. The gen 4 which I raced the most it would surprise you on when she was going around. Also American tracks the are very difficult vs European tracks. American tracks the 100m brake zone. One day the cones will be 70m from the corner. The next day they may be 140m or yds. Now 180mph = 88yds/second - 200mph = 97yds/second. So as you can imagine if the guy sets up the 100yd/meter brake markers at 70m/yds then you can easily go in hard. So racing on American tracks your at a slight disadvantage in any car no matter what. European tracks the signs are precisely at 100m 200m 300m. So you always have a reference which is the key part of driving.
You are correct I had a similar layout of events after going to different cars
So I’ve raced in 3 series serious dirt/asphalt both but the 3 others as well. I have 6kids today racing and share the same. Stock cars I started in the 90s and went to 2010ish. The best thing I can compare is stock car racing is like getting to race in 1950s. Stock cars your not allowed to have technology to help you control the car so it’s a drivers sport but you need PhD level experience to be competitive. I started in legend cars while racing open wheel and sprint. I think the winged sprint dirt experience prepared me the most. The way stock cars run we run them loose. So if the car is loose sliding on ice skates that means you have less downforce/side force that = less drag! So if all the cars have the same HP/TRq and I’m loose as a 10cent whore that means I can achieve a higher top speed with the same HP. It’s a bit more complicated but that’s how I explain it in simple terms. - the key is to remember no matter the series and I support every series. Indy/nascar/Formula/nhra then all the other lower series. These cars are designed to be difficult (in different ways) I would say my highdownforce cars were the most fun I was always happy. Heavy lowdownforce Stock cars your never happy and always hate the car. It never does what you want. My generation you had to have a PhD in aerodynamics to be effective. - I’m a firm believer anybody can do anything but it takes time. Believe it or not the legend cars are the hardest cars you can drive. I got my kids in them because they will prepare you for any car. Like basic car control you need for open wheel or stock it’s the perfect teaching tool. If you jump in a high downforce car it’s like heaven winning the lottery.
To say guys indy drivers werent successful because of where they finished at week's end is a bit of an overstatement. Sure they may have been successful in their previous form of racing, but theyre still out there beating about half the field of drivers who have been racing stock cars their entire lives. So looking at it, they definitely learn super fast and their talent. However, it looks like theyre mediocre at best because the top drivers in nascar are on top of that series for a reason. Hats off to guys like Montoya and Ambrose who were actually able to win in the series even if it looks like they werent very successful at it.
Anyone who makes the transition from Indy Cars to Stock Cars should run a season of midgets & sprints cars first ... Like "Smoke."
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I guarantee you if he stuck with NASCAR he'd still be racing today
Like Dale Jr?
Eric Cardona true - especially if he kept dnq'ing (jking). Maybe he wouldve got much better. Shame we'll never know.
It's possible.
Choices.
Ive noticed, with Tony Stewart being the exception, that guys that come to NASCAR from other series, really tend to struggle and never get much better (Robby Gordon, JPM, Hornish, Allmendinger for a long time, etc.) But NASCAR guys going to other series for one offs (Indycar, typically) do much better.
Name one NASCAR guy that was successful on Road Courses. You'll find out this year with Jimmie.
What NASCAR guys have branched out into OTHER forms of top tier motosport. Most NASCAR drivers just go race local short track stock car events. Jimmie Johnson is the only guy I KNOW that’s any good at NASCAR that is willing to go race in a different form of racing.
Tony Stewart crashed every stock car he had when he started to the point he was wondering if he should quit then one day just like all of us. It just clicked one day and he became one of the best. Anybody can do anything but experience always wins and you have to fail 20x before you will succeed.
that’s not true for JPM. i’ve been watching NASCAR for a long time and JPM proved that if he had the equipment JJ had in his prime, he would’ve without a doubt won more and maybe even been a championship contender. hell, he was a contender in 09’ despite not having a win, people seem to forget at one point late in the season he was 3rd in the standings right behind JJ and Mark Martin. what didn’t help JPM’s career in NASCAR was driving Ganassi, cause CGR wasn’t the powerhouse in NASCAR that they are in Indy
I Like Dario, but he wasnt good enough for NASCARs top division, at least not straight away. Indy 500 aside, Indycar is rinky dink. NASCAR is a big step up from Indycar, and I just dont think Dario was ever going to succeed.
All NASCAR has is Daytona 500. The rest is all shit.
As a life long NASCAR fan that’s just simply not true. IndyCar is on par with driver and team talent. Both forms are at the top in our country but the biggest issue for IndyCar is they don’t have as many fans that tune in for their races. Their diehard fans are there for the long haul, but to say NASCAR is more difficult is wrong .
Sam Hornish was my faviorte driver was going to be the next Rick Mears on ovals until the traitor left Panther for Penske then nascar totally ruined his career GOOD THE SELFISH BASTARD!
I call bullshit on his reasons for going to NASCRAP. NASCRAP was way more popular then and the opportunity to make way more money. Period.
Nascrap?