Matajii mentioned a very important point. She said even though people can be in Vrndavan they are in family consciousness. The success in bhakti is that we have to be 'Krishna Conscious' wherever we are residing.
Thanks for this video, Shrila Prabhupada's guidance has led me to my Guru in this lifetime outside of Isckon. I can never repay Prabhupad ❤. He guided me towards what is Real bhakti 😊
Thank you for sharing : for me it is very simple, one must be totally Krishna conscious to go to spiritual Vrindavan, only dying there isn't giving a "ticket" in a automatic way...obviously not ! Haribol from Polska.
One who is dying in Vrindavan will not be an ordinary soul… Please mend your words before time.. May be you could lose the same opportunity for this appradh.. No one can even enter Vrindavan without Radha rani’s mercy.. what to say glories of those who leave their body in dhaam…. DO WE THINK. Our sadhana has the potency to take us back to Godhead… ? We are in illusion, without dhaam mercy, without guru vaishnavas mercy, without harinaam mercy … we can never go back to Godhead…. We need to stay away from Complicated UA-camrs..
Our goal is not only to go vrindavan our goal is that where our guru maharaj want to send us we have to go there .. if he want to send us in hell we should accept his words ..doesn't matter you are going nitya vrindavan or not matter is that you are hold up the feet of guru and krishna
@@musafeels6913 so it Hurts you that you re believing a random Brainroting shits. Non shastric? Seriously 😂🤣 ... They didn't gave any proof from shastras just some mental speculations, and you called this shastric😂🤣
Thank you for the video. An important contribution to uncovering certain misinterpretations. Thank you! So Prabhu in the video also talks nonsense; "the sick Mataji from ISKCON has become a ghost"... All these misconceptions arise when devotees do not read Srila Prabhupada's books regularly! (for a soul that is not liberated) After leaving the body, the soul goes into an intermediate state with the subtle body where it remains for a few months before being reborn. Whereas someone who becomes a ghost due to sinful actions has no chance of getting a gross body anymore. Hare Krishna! 🙏
Don't know why you are highlighting iskcon!! Just by joining iskcon it is not done. Iskcon is not a rubber stamp to goloka. Only by really following the teachings of Bhagavadgita, bhagavatam, Chaitanya Charitamritam, one can go to go loka. This Is taught in iskcon. Those who follow they gain. Those who just join for name sake, they loose!! Just joining the best college won't make you best, you need to pass with good grade in that college, then you get a good job.
We should never blindly trust in dreams! Dreams are always a reflection of one's own consciousness. The dream that Mataji had about the sick Mataji of ISKCON is a dream that was intended for her... not necessarily for the public. The time of death and the place and circumstances are determined by the Paramatma. This cannot be fabricated. Hare Krishna! 🙏
Very well explained, I keep telling everyone this is not going to take them to Golok Vrindavan. I am a healer and I see souls talk to souls and they can’t really do anything if they die in suffering. People should work on chakras and kundalini as well. Yes there is a process to attain moksha but it’s not being teach in any Iskon or any other temple.
The most important thing in the life of a devotee is to first study the philosophy and then live it. And then, in a further step, to use your energy to pass it on to others. The best therapy is the offenceless chanting of the Holy Names. Then the Supersoul will also regulate your chakras...
@@edvinchandra1277 Yes I am trying to become devotee of Durga ma . I try every day to improve myself and make myself good and pure . I make progress but there is still a long way to go .
I am surprised that you are surprised. It's well known that one is not going to the spiritual world just by dying in Braj. You must have realization about your svarup and must be absorbed in it. And this happens when you are completely pure. It's not an cheap thing.
I do thank you for the stories, but such things happen in all lines. It is an individual responsibility not only an organizational one and I appreciate the reminder. However, you are always trying to disregard Iskcon; Why? It is a contamination. I think you believe that Iskcon is not a bonafide line on the assumption of Bhakitisiddhanta initiation; am I right? So, if it would not be for Srila Prabhupada mercy; yourself would not be on a 'bonafide' line. Therefore, you lock gratitude. Gratitude is the most important aspect of devotional service, because it is the first step to open one's heart and enable the capacity of loving god. I mean, Gratitude is long lasting; until the last breath. Otherwise, we will approach devotional service from the intellectual aspect. Sincerely, HareRam
Perfect commentary. Why they dont try to make their service without trying to blaspheme Iskcon? There will always be people to flatter this attitude, but anyone who is spiritually aware knows that it is a deviation and bad behavior. Be thankful for Srila Prabhupada, and iluminate people who wants to go deeper in this philosophy without creating fights. True spirituality unites, material dispute separates, obvious symptoms.
@@radhashakti108interesting thought. ISKCON themselves are highly divisive, Prabhupad called Parmhansa Ramakrishna a 'rascal', his followers openly attack Advaita Vedanta. Stop crying, this is your own medicine. The 4 bona fide Sampradaya claim is a fabrication, there's no such verse in Padma Purana. Brahma samhita was written by Chaitanya himself, Srimad Bhagavatam isn't even vedic - it was written in 10th century South India. Sorry to break it to you, but ISKCON should be avoided. Read other commentaries on the Gita, and you will hopefully understand. There's plenty of them.
Thank you for your reply, Prabuji 🙏🙏🙏.. True that, y to blame Iskcon unnecessarily.. Many hippies/terrified souls have changed to happies/peaceful souls through Iskcon/Srila Prabupadh teachings. Why to spread hate/fake unnecessarily. Jai Srila Prabupad 🙏 HareKrishna 🙏
Mann eva manushyanam karanam vandh mokhyayoh! This is most important key part of bhagvat Gita. That's the key. The nitya dham is parallel and present and divya.
Oh Prabhujis and Matajis, dandavats and pranams. We all helpless in material world thus stick to SriKrsna"s lotus feet and continue offer all your so called material duty to Him (when you offer to Krsna, that material becomes spiritual). Follow exactly what Krsna told in Bhagavad Gita and the rest He will take care. He knows you well then anybody else because He is Paramatma staying within you in the same body you dwell in.
But maybe in this birth, those women never succeeded in attaining Nitya Vrindavan, but a seed has been sown in their souls that by coming to Vrindavan, they will begin to get the grace of Lord Krishna slowly and steadily in each successive birth. So, in a way, it can be assessed that these women 's coming to Vrindavan was not a total failure. To attain a sense of total surrender is not an easy task, as without the total surrender to Lord Krishna, there is no possibility of attainment of Nitya Vrindavan.
Pls read Srila Prabhupada's books then you will know how to purify yourself and if you are already purified while living then you can imagine going to Goloka Vrindavan!. A person should have symptoms of being a pure devotee with all qualities which are mentioned in the scriptures.
@@musafeels6913you are bogus nonsense person what are you what is your existence? What benifit you have done for the society? Or you think yourself a much more qualified devoote than him try to improve your self from jealousy it will lead you nowhere
Very true eee, even if somebody leaves body in kashi , eventhough they are sure to go to shivaloka or manidweepa or vaikuntha or ganesh or surya or skanda loka . In the very first second of death they re going to experience BHAIRAV YATNA , where lord bhairo dev is going to punish them for all the sins collected from the previous and this birth
I have never heard something like if you die in Vrindavan you go directly to Golok, I have heard that that only happens if you take birth here in Vraj. What I have heard is that If you die here in Bhauma Vrindavan you receive that same opportunity of now taking birth in Bhauma Vrindavan. Would be interesting if someone come up with some sastra about this topic, Jay thank you Dada, nice story nevertheless, dandavat pranam Jay Nitay 🙏🏼
This is just 1st step, it takes multiple human lives to get moksha, you guys should read Garuda Puraan, it will give better idea of post death spirit travel
@hariomtatincanada I have read Garuda Puran, and the description of hell and the journey that the soul takes after death is terrifying. According to Garuda Puran, 99% people of kaliyug goes to hell.
@@amandixit4713 why are you worried about me, you should focus on yourself, because you might to back Pig Or any other animal body if if you choose live like animal, as far as for me i am on the right path sooner or later I will reach my destination
Dreams are only dreams. We see impossible things in dreams like reality in life. We don't get doubt also while dreaming. Does it mean dreams are true in real life? No. Never. Not at all. Based on a dream no one should doubt or judge shastra pramans. It is complete nonsense and insane to compare a dream with the facts of vedic scriptures.
Can you please provide me with the Shastra that states that by leaving the body in Vrindavan, one goes to Nitya Vrindavan? It would be greatly appreciated by the 64 Gaudiya Vaishnav Parivars if you could share the reference. Thank you for your time and consideration. 🙏⛰️✨️🌿📚
@@sarvashakti108may be she never went to Nitya dhaam … but all we are saying is we don’t believe in your dream.. We don’t know you personally and have zero faith in your dream… All we know is if anyone leaving their body in Vrindavan then they will definitely get some advantage.. may be they will again get a human form or May be they can go to Nitya leela as well.. Krsna knows better… But please don’t make such complicated videos… They aren’t helpful…
So this story is based on a dream of a deceased mother . Strong dreams to happen in Vrindavan . But you certainly get good sukriti to be in touch with dust of Vrindavan . . You will have to take new births until you get full purification . Just choose the association of the pure vaisvavs whenever they appear
Omg! It's so scary , I was always thinking where is the evidence that just chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulative principles is enough for going back to God head. Now I know why it's called Krishna Consciousness.
Whatever your guru and Guru Varga says, we have to believe in them and discard these video.. If HDG AC Bhakti Vedanta Swami Prabhupada said, chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulations will take your to Krsna .. Then it will take you to Krsna…. That’s only your sadhnaa… Don’t believe in any youtuber … only believe in Acharayas vani… Krsna speaks through a guru and Acharya…
@amandixit4713 but what if we are not following the rules and regulations properly and are not chanting 16 rounds. And even when we are doing that but also enjoying material life , like watching t.v bollywood movies, family relationship etc then ????
@@edvinchandra1277 Srila Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada said, if you are sincerely chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulations then you will go back to godhead. We are conditioned soul, and everything takes time… It’s a gradual process, we have to sincerely follow the words of Our Acharyas and Krsna will help us.. Initially no one could get rid of their past habits, but gradually by the mercy we get rid of all past habits … like watching tv, news, etc… You can’t expect a change in a day … also everyone has their own journey, every soul takes their own time… but if you want to go back to Godhead soon, then you can be sincere for yourself… Don’t worry about others who are watching Tv or news
Mata ji has got a point, I don’t disagree. But what’s authenticity of her dream? May be she is doing everything for video? We don’t know her personally… what’s her purpose? What’s her aim? Do we? Please don’t mind. Krsna said in bhagwat Gita, anyhow if one has served him and started bhakti … declare it boldly “kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśhyati” My devotee shall never perish… No matter if one has to go to hell even then Krsna will protect him… You don’t worry mata ji… Let’s appreciate everyone for atleast putting their First step in bhakti… Don’t lose their morale.. by creating these video… such complicated video will never help anyone to get Krsna prem.. They are only conflicting videos
Sadly, the rules and regulations of Mantra Japa are often disregarded in today's world, rendering the practice ineffective. I kindly request you to watch my playlist on Mahamantra Japa for further guidance.
What you guys doing there??? Speaking about how others wrong and you right.?? What you guys offering- we should believe your dream and your speculation but not believe to Srila Prabhupada how said that everyone how left body in Vrindavan will borne in Krishna Lila and then go Goloka Vrindavan ( nitya Lila...???
@Samandar7292 It's not speculation, there are clear symptoms of how a person leaves his or her body, that decides which destination is achieved. Through which gate a soul leaves the body.
Lord Krishna says in Bhagavat Gita that, one who is doubtful will not be happy. And here, u doubt about the benefits of chanting itself. My God!.. You have been a fortunate soul, as bcos of some good association, you have started your chanting. But, unfortunately now you are in the wrong guidance, as you doubt your chanting. May you please Srila Prabupad🙏 and get Radha Krishna's blessings in abundance.. Jai Srila Prabupad.. HareKrishna..
The theme is interesting, nothing new for those who read texts that do not talk about this, neither the Gita, nor Srimad Bhagavatam. But its evident a certain tendency to want to force the name ISKCON, this sounds like malice. And to talk about such a serious subject, you could rely more on the Shastras and be sure that there are illusions in all Vaishnava spiritual schools, because there are deluded people in all of them and there are holy people in all of them also. I'm from Iskcon and I don't think it's enough to die in Vrndavana to go to Vrndavana. Be very careful with the stereotype, especially the unnecessary question at the end of the guy wanting to know who the person she was talking about in the photo was from Iskcon.
beginner devotees always tend to think of themselves as chosen, whether it is in Christianity or in ISKCON... and another point that came to mind when I saw the video is that "students follow their guru", so if the guru speaks badly about ISKCON, his students will do the same... We all choose our authorities in life that we follow. If we do this blindly, it is not very wise. I took 8 years to receive initiation within ISKCON and have never regretted it. Hare Krishna! 🙏
I had same dream, my grandmother she was very pious lady, so I was thinking at least she went to heaven. But in my dream she was standing with some people in front of a big gate. She told me in the dream that the gate will open soon and then they will decide where will she go.
This idea that by following one guru you get to Golok Vrindavan is kind of a very Christian concept that just believing in Jesus is enough to go to heaven. My guru (unfortunately ex guru) was clearly explaining that only those do not come back to this material mayic realm who got God-realized while still alive. ONLY when you meet God in person while in this body you get liberated from Maya. Otherwise you will certainly get reborn and it takes sometimes many lifetimes to complete one's sadhana. Radhe Radhe
@jji7744 Speculation would be doubts created by the mind, I thing it is our general inquiry, if we are doing our Krishna Consciousness properly or not? And just being in the movement or in vrindavan makes us qualified for Krishna's abode?
@jayantchaudhary3584 no brother, trully read his biography. He got in a dream and then he give himself Sannyasa. How is that bonafide, starting with? This is even in Wikipedia. 😂
Sorry but you are doing dham aparadh!! It's the glory of shri dham vrindavan that if anyone leave his/her body here they will goto shri dham eternally. We can think then many people are leaving their body that means everyone is going!? Yes! Sastra and guru, sadhu vachan is eternal. Even hari can't deny his devotees words so don't think by your imperfect senses. Believe in your guru and glorify shri hari and his dham 🎉 shri Radhe ❤️
Excuse me, but where did you read that? I believe you are simply stating the truth. If there is no spiritual practice, there is no evolution. It's as simple as that. Please refrain from using tactics such as "aparadha" that may be perceived as offensive or disrespectful.
@renevega75 bro I believe in my guru. He said we will go that means we will go, that's it for me. If you read vrindavan dham mahima then you will be known about it. I'm not saying you to believe me but I believe in my guru and if we are saying dham can't do that then that will be aparadh. In that sense I said aparadh.
@@renevega75 you should understand that the PLACE, TIME and CIRCUMSTANCES of death are determined by the Paramatma. So if someone dies in a particular place, it is for a particular reason. Dying in the holy Dham cannot be fabricated unless the Paramatma allows it.
Who is saying anything wrong about ISKCON? ISKCON is telling wrong things to its followers. Wake up! Devi, hahaha, Devi... Do you know that in Vrindavan Lila, there is no Devi Dasi? So, I speak the truth and am considered wrong? Wake up, lady; you are in a cult.
@@bla546 And what does the word "Bhakti" mean? Yes, it means to serve, to become a servant of a servant of a servant; dasa, dasa anudasa. It seems to me that you are the one who is still in darkness (tama guna). Hare Krishna! 🙏
Hahaha 😂😂😂 you are an ignorant. I have been following dadaji for a few years. I tell you that he is a genuine vaishnav. Aparadhis goes to hell. You know that? Study shastra son.
Learn to love your family first, you're in bhakti for Krsna's sake, not an impersonal practice of yoga. Learn what is reciprocation, with people, plants, pets and pebbles even. In Vrindavana.
@@musafeels6913 For a pure devotee there is no difference between the spiritual world and the material world, because everything is part and parcel of Shri Krishna. Hare Krishna! 🙏
To be in Vrindavan is to be in Vrindavan consciousness. You can have a Guru but that does not mean anything. It's the state of consciousness you are in that will decide. Going back home is not that cheap, that you just buy a ticket to Vrindavan, come and leave your body and go back 😂
@upenbrs last year I went to vrindavan , I was just staying in the hotel , eating at restaurants, doing shopping and getting stuck in huge crowds just to visit any temple.
That's right. Living in Shri Vrindavan is a great furtune, but living elsewhere and always thinking of Shri Vrindavan, shri Radha Madhav and thier leelas is much more beneficial. You may not be physically in Vrindavan but your concious is always in Vrindavan, that has heigher possibilities that you may be allowed by Shriji to be in the periphery of Nitya Vrindavan.
Matajii mentioned a very important point. She said even though people can be in Vrndavan they are in family consciousness.
The success in bhakti is that we have to be 'Krishna Conscious' wherever we are residing.
Yes, that's right.
Thanks for this video, Shrila Prabhupada's guidance has led me to my Guru in this lifetime outside of Isckon. I can never repay Prabhupad ❤. He guided me towards what is Real bhakti 😊
Thank you for sharing : for me it is very simple, one must be totally Krishna conscious to go to spiritual Vrindavan, only dying there isn't giving a "ticket" in a automatic way...obviously not ! Haribol from Polska.
You are right!
One who is dying in Vrindavan will not be an ordinary soul… Please mend your words before time.. May be you could lose the same opportunity for this appradh.. No one can even enter Vrindavan without Radha rani’s mercy.. what to say glories of those who leave their body in dhaam…. DO WE THINK. Our sadhana has the potency to take us back to Godhead… ? We are in illusion, without dhaam mercy, without guru vaishnavas mercy, without harinaam mercy … we can never go back to Godhead…. We need to stay away from
Complicated UA-camrs..
Srila prabhupada said if a devotee doesn't reach the stage of Bhava then he can not go back to Nitya Vrindavan
How will they reach Bhav if their Gurus has not achieved it yet?
@@bla546 how do you know?
@@Bhaktajacob 👍👍👍
Totally agree 👍
Our goal is not only to go vrindavan our goal is that where our guru maharaj want to send us we have to go there .. if he want to send us in hell we should accept his words ..doesn't matter you are going nitya vrindavan or not matter is that you are hold up the feet of guru and krishna
This should be viral and reach each and every devotee it is a very important message
You want such mental speculations to be viral? Seriously
@HKgoldenKrsna it Hurts you that you are following a non shastric cult? 😢
Same here. I shared that video everywhere, lol.
@@musafeels6913 so it Hurts you that you re believing a random Brainroting shits. Non shastric? Seriously 😂🤣 ... They didn't gave any proof from shastras just some mental speculations, and you called this shastric😂🤣
@@HKgoldenKrsna you think 16 rounds of japa and whole day of body consciousness will take you to Vrindavan? 😂
Thank you for the video. An important contribution to uncovering certain misinterpretations. Thank you! So Prabhu in the video also talks nonsense; "the sick Mataji from ISKCON has become a ghost"... All these misconceptions arise when devotees do not read Srila Prabhupada's books regularly! (for a soul that is not liberated) After leaving the body, the soul goes into an intermediate state with the subtle body where it remains for a few months before being reborn. Whereas someone who becomes a ghost due to sinful actions has no chance of getting a gross body anymore. Hare Krishna! 🙏
Don't know why you are highlighting iskcon!! Just by joining iskcon it is not done. Iskcon is not a rubber stamp to goloka. Only by really following the teachings of Bhagavadgita, bhagavatam, Chaitanya Charitamritam, one can go to go loka. This Is taught in iskcon. Those who follow they gain. Those who just join for name sake, they loose!! Just joining the best college won't make you best, you need to pass with good grade in that college, then you get a good job.
100% correct
Sadhna is the key to liberation 🙏
We should never blindly trust in dreams! Dreams are always a reflection of one's own consciousness. The dream that Mataji had about the sick Mataji of ISKCON is a dream that was intended for her... not necessarily for the public. The time of death and the place and circumstances are determined by the Paramatma. This cannot be fabricated. Hare Krishna! 🙏
Very well explained, I keep telling everyone this is not going to take them to Golok Vrindavan. I am a healer and I see souls talk to souls and they can’t really do anything if they die in suffering. People should work on chakras and kundalini as well. Yes there is a process to attain moksha but it’s not being teach in any Iskon or any other temple.
The most important thing in the life of a devotee is to first study the philosophy and then live it. And then, in a further step, to use your energy to pass it on to others. The best therapy is the offenceless chanting of the Holy Names. Then the Supersoul will also regulate your chakras...
Doing Sadhana is very important. IT purifies and make our divine awaken in ourselves.
Sadhana is a Sankalp and it is a step by step process.
@@Lakshmi51234 True, step by step, day by day. I think every second counts if we are in proper Krishna Consciousness.
@@edvinchandra1277 Yes I am trying to become devotee of Durga ma .
I try every day to improve myself and make myself good and pure .
I make progress but there is still a long way to go .
I am surprised that you are surprised. It's well known that one is not going to the spiritual world just by dying in Braj.
You must have realization about your svarup and must be absorbed in it. And this happens when you are completely pure.
It's not an cheap thing.
I do thank you for the stories, but such things happen in all lines. It is an individual responsibility not only an organizational one and I appreciate the reminder. However, you are always trying to disregard Iskcon; Why? It is a contamination. I think you believe that Iskcon is not a bonafide line on the assumption of Bhakitisiddhanta initiation; am I right? So, if it would not be for Srila Prabhupada mercy; yourself would not be on a 'bonafide' line. Therefore, you lock gratitude. Gratitude is the most important aspect of devotional service, because it is the first step to open one's heart and enable the capacity of loving god. I mean, Gratitude is long lasting; until the last breath. Otherwise, we will approach devotional service from the intellectual aspect. Sincerely, HareRam
Perfect commentary. Why they dont try to make their service without trying to blaspheme Iskcon? There will always be people to flatter this attitude, but anyone who is spiritually aware knows that it is a deviation and bad behavior. Be thankful for Srila Prabhupada, and iluminate people who wants to go deeper in this philosophy without creating fights. True spirituality unites, material dispute separates, obvious symptoms.
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Create unity in Diversity,
@@radhashakti108interesting thought. ISKCON themselves are highly divisive, Prabhupad called Parmhansa Ramakrishna a 'rascal', his followers openly attack Advaita Vedanta. Stop crying, this is your own medicine. The 4 bona fide Sampradaya claim is a fabrication, there's no such verse in Padma Purana. Brahma samhita was written by Chaitanya himself, Srimad Bhagavatam isn't even vedic - it was written in 10th century South India. Sorry to break it to you, but ISKCON should be avoided. Read other commentaries on the Gita, and you will hopefully understand. There's plenty of them.
Thank you for your reply, Prabuji 🙏🙏🙏.. True that, y to blame Iskcon unnecessarily.. Many hippies/terrified souls have changed to happies/peaceful souls through Iskcon/Srila Prabupadh teachings. Why to spread hate/fake unnecessarily.
Jai Srila Prabupad 🙏
HareKrishna 🙏
Shrila Prabhupada said that before to go Nitya Vrindavan one will borne in Krishna Lila in Material world then one will go to Nitya Vrindavan
Mann eva manushyanam karanam vandh mokhyayoh! This is most important key part of bhagvat Gita.
That's the key. The nitya dham is parallel and present and divya.
You got my point ☝️
Prabhu please can you give me refrence
Oh Prabhujis and Matajis, dandavats and pranams. We all helpless in material world thus stick to SriKrsna"s lotus feet and continue offer all your so called material duty to Him (when you offer to Krsna, that material becomes spiritual). Follow exactly what Krsna told in Bhagavad Gita and the rest He will take care. He knows you well then anybody else because He is Paramatma staying within you in the same body you dwell in.
But maybe in this birth, those women never succeeded in attaining Nitya Vrindavan, but a seed has been sown in their souls that by coming to Vrindavan, they will begin to get the grace of Lord Krishna slowly and steadily in each successive birth. So, in a way, it can be assessed that these women 's coming to Vrindavan was not a total failure. To attain a sense of total surrender is not an easy task, as without the total surrender to Lord Krishna, there is no possibility of attainment of Nitya Vrindavan.
Exactly you getting the truth without proper sadhana u go nowhere and right guru who initiate us in sadhana is very rare
Pls read Srila Prabhupada's books then you will know how to purify yourself and if you are already purified while living then you can imagine going to Goloka Vrindavan!.
A person should have symptoms of being a pure devotee with all qualities which are mentioned in the scriptures.
His books are bogus
@@musafeels6913you are bogus nonsense person what are you what is your existence? What benifit you have done for the society? Or you think yourself a much more qualified devoote than him try to improve your self from jealousy it will lead you nowhere
Thank you for this 😊
agree devotees think they have their ticket since they have guru etc, but tv is their biggest guru 😊
Very true eee, even if somebody leaves body in kashi , eventhough they are sure to go to shivaloka or manidweepa or vaikuntha or ganesh or surya or skanda loka . In the very first second of death they re going to experience BHAIRAV YATNA , where lord bhairo dev is going to punish them for all the sins collected from the previous and this birth
I have never heard something like if you die in Vrindavan you go directly to Golok, I have heard that that only happens if you take birth here in Vraj.
What I have heard is that If you die here in Bhauma Vrindavan you receive that same opportunity of now taking birth in Bhauma Vrindavan.
Would be interesting if someone come up with some sastra about this topic, Jay thank you Dada, nice story nevertheless, dandavat pranam Jay Nitay 🙏🏼
hardcore karma and bhakti yoga sadhana to end karmic burdens is the key..........then you begin to qualify
Yes
Woow, I was speaking about this topic with a friend.
This is just 1st step, it takes multiple human lives to get moksha, you guys should read Garuda Puraan, it will give better idea of post death spirit travel
@hariomtatincanada I have read Garuda Puran, and the description of hell and the journey that the soul takes after death is terrifying. According to Garuda Puran, 99% people of kaliyug goes to hell.
We have already took infinite births , how many multiple birth you wanna take brother? Do you think you are newly born? Is it your first birth? 😅
@@amandixit4713 I don't know , maybe you special powers to know your past lives, 😏 😉 🤔 😅
@@edvinchandra1277 how many chapters are there and which chapter and paragraph are you quoting here prabhu
@@amandixit4713 why are you worried about me, you should focus on yourself, because you might to back Pig Or any other animal body if if you choose live like animal, as far as for me i am on the right path sooner or later I will reach my destination
Eye opener
Dreams are only dreams. We see impossible things in dreams like reality in life. We don't get doubt also while dreaming. Does it mean dreams are true in real life? No. Never. Not at all. Based on a dream no one should doubt or judge shastra pramans. It is complete nonsense and insane to compare a dream with the facts of vedic scriptures.
Can you please provide me with the Shastra that states that by leaving the body in Vrindavan, one goes to Nitya Vrindavan? It would be greatly appreciated by the 64 Gaudiya Vaishnav Parivars if you could share the reference. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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@@sarvashakti108may be she never went to Nitya dhaam … but all we are saying is we don’t believe in your dream.. We don’t know you personally and have zero faith in your dream… All we know is if anyone leaving their body in Vrindavan then they will definitely get some advantage.. may be they will again get a human form or May be they can go to Nitya leela as well.. Krsna knows better… But please don’t make such complicated videos… They aren’t helpful…
Shadhan means here i think sadhna is being reffered to , i also support this .
So this story is based on a dream of a deceased mother . Strong dreams to happen in Vrindavan . But you certainly get good sukriti to be in touch with dust of Vrindavan . . You will have to take new births until you get full purification . Just choose the association of the pure vaisvavs whenever they appear
Finally dream not shastras
Dreams like diksha of Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati 😂
Make sense
What's new? the process is about consciousness, you need to be aware of the ultimate truth to address it, simple. Cheats don't work.
Exactly what I thought, it's not that easy , that just being in vrindavan can qualify one to krishna loka.
What do we think is Goloka Vrindavan? For me it's my current surroundings where I chant
Omg! It's so scary , I was always thinking where is the evidence that just chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulative principles is enough for going back to God head. Now I know why it's called Krishna Consciousness.
It is Sadhana. It is a practice you do daily no matter what are the situation are
Wish it was this easy😂❤
Whatever your guru and Guru Varga says, we have to believe in them and discard these video.. If HDG AC Bhakti Vedanta Swami Prabhupada said, chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulations will take your to Krsna .. Then it will take you to Krsna…. That’s only your sadhnaa… Don’t believe in any youtuber … only believe in Acharayas vani… Krsna speaks through a guru and Acharya…
@amandixit4713 but what if we are not following the rules and regulations properly and are not chanting 16 rounds. And even when we are doing that but also enjoying material life , like watching t.v bollywood movies, family relationship etc then ????
@@edvinchandra1277 Srila Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada said, if you are sincerely chanting 16 rounds and following 4 regulations then you will go back to godhead. We are conditioned soul, and everything takes time… It’s a gradual process, we have to sincerely follow the words of Our Acharyas and Krsna will help us.. Initially no one could get rid of their past habits, but gradually by the mercy we get rid of all past habits … like watching tv, news, etc… You can’t expect a change in a day … also everyone has their own journey, every soul takes their own time… but if you want to go back to Godhead soon, then you can be sincere for yourself… Don’t worry about others who are watching Tv or news
I think she may be wait in "pitri loka "
Mata ji has got a point, I don’t disagree. But what’s authenticity of her dream? May be she is doing everything for video? We don’t know her personally… what’s her purpose? What’s her aim? Do we? Please don’t mind. Krsna said in bhagwat Gita, anyhow if one has served him and started bhakti … declare it boldly “kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśhyati” My devotee shall never perish… No matter if one has to go to hell even then Krsna will protect him… You don’t worry mata ji… Let’s appreciate everyone for atleast putting their First step in bhakti… Don’t lose their morale.. by creating these video… such complicated video will never help anyone to get Krsna prem.. They are only conflicting videos
Damn...i m getting goosebumps... don't know if my chanting will have any affect now or not😂
Sadly, the rules and regulations of Mantra Japa are often disregarded in today's world, rendering the practice ineffective. I kindly request you to watch my playlist on Mahamantra Japa for further guidance.
@sarvashakti108 for sure prabhu 🙏 thanks
What you guys doing there??? Speaking about how others wrong and you right.?? What you guys offering- we should believe your dream and your speculation but not believe to Srila Prabhupada how said that everyone how left body in Vrindavan will borne in Krishna Lila and then go Goloka Vrindavan ( nitya Lila...???
@Samandar7292 It's not speculation, there are clear symptoms of how a person leaves his or her body, that decides which destination is achieved. Through which gate a soul leaves the body.
Lord Krishna says in Bhagavat Gita that, one who is doubtful will not be happy. And here, u doubt about the benefits of chanting itself. My God!..
You have been a fortunate soul, as bcos of some good association, you have started your chanting. But, unfortunately now you are in the wrong guidance, as you doubt your chanting.
May you please Srila Prabupad🙏 and get Radha Krishna's blessings in abundance..
Jai Srila Prabupad..
HareKrishna..
The theme is interesting, nothing new for those who read texts that do not talk about this, neither the Gita, nor Srimad Bhagavatam. But its evident a certain tendency to want to force the name ISKCON, this sounds like malice. And to talk about such a serious subject, you could rely more on the Shastras and be sure that there are illusions in all Vaishnava spiritual schools, because there are deluded people in all of them and there are holy people in all of them also. I'm from Iskcon and I don't think it's enough to die in Vrndavana to go to Vrndavana. Be very careful with the stereotype, especially the unnecessary question at the end of the guy wanting to know who the person she was talking about in the photo was from Iskcon.
Same here it's seems like he is trying to blame iskcon only
beginner devotees always tend to think of themselves as chosen, whether it is in Christianity or in ISKCON... and another point that came to mind when I saw the video is that "students follow their guru", so if the guru speaks badly about ISKCON, his students will do the same... We all choose our authorities in life that we follow. If we do this blindly, it is not very wise. I took 8 years to receive initiation within ISKCON and have never regretted it. Hare Krishna! 🙏
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We believed in Shastra, Sadhu,Guru ; not in dreams.
Then you do not believe in Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati
He was initiated in a dream 😂
why do people nowadays always have to interpret everything in black and white
It was a dream someone had! You are coming up with these conclusions based on a dream someone had? Nonsense.
I had same dream, my grandmother she was very pious lady, so I was thinking at least she went to heaven. But in my dream she was standing with some people in front of a big gate. She told me in the dream that the gate will open soon and then they will decide where will she go.
Bhaktisiddhanta got diksha in a dream. Is his diksha also nonsense?
@renevega75 wow! I didn't know that.
Were you on neem Karoli Baba samadhi on bhai duj Sunday?
This idea that by following one guru you get to Golok Vrindavan is kind of a very Christian concept that just believing in Jesus is enough to go to heaven. My guru (unfortunately ex guru) was clearly explaining that only those do not come back to this material mayic realm who got God-realized while still alive. ONLY when you meet God in person while in this body you get liberated from Maya. Otherwise you will certainly get reborn and it takes sometimes many lifetimes to complete one's sadhana. Radhe Radhe
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Why do people make such videos based on so much speculation from a dream.
Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati got diksha in a Dream. So maybe dreams are also important?
@jji7744 Speculation would be doubts created by the mind, I thing it is our general inquiry, if we are doing our Krishna Consciousness properly or not? And just being in the movement or in vrindavan makes us qualified for Krishna's abode?
@@renevega75that was not true he got one with physical ND second (sanyasi) with photo
@jayantchaudhary3584 no brother, trully read his biography. He got in a dream and then he give himself Sannyasa. How is that bonafide, starting with? This is even in Wikipedia. 😂
@ it’s not true I know
Sorry but you are doing dham aparadh!! It's the glory of shri dham vrindavan that if anyone leave his/her body here they will goto shri dham eternally. We can think then many people are leaving their body that means everyone is going!? Yes! Sastra and guru, sadhu vachan is eternal. Even hari can't deny his devotees words so don't think by your imperfect senses. Believe in your guru and glorify shri hari and his dham 🎉 shri Radhe ❤️
Excuse me, but where did you read that? I believe you are simply stating the truth. If there is no spiritual practice, there is no evolution. It's as simple as that. Please refrain from using tactics such as "aparadha" that may be perceived as offensive or disrespectful.
@renevega75 bro I believe in my guru. He said we will go that means we will go, that's it for me. If you read vrindavan dham mahima then you will be known about it. I'm not saying you to believe me but I believe in my guru and if we are saying dham can't do that then that will be aparadh. In that sense I said aparadh.
@@Nimai3027be aware of क्रिश्चियन मशीनरी
@@renevega75 you should understand that the PLACE, TIME and CIRCUMSTANCES of death are determined by the Paramatma. So if someone dies in a particular place, it is for a particular reason. Dying in the holy Dham cannot be fabricated unless the Paramatma allows it.
hare krishna
non sense videos based on nonsense dreams , logically fit to the vlogger pr
Either nonsense or not but we have to be careful , living in vrindavan.
What they are trying to say that if you die in Vrindavan it doesn't mean you will go to Krishna .There are practices which are important.
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Nonsensical speculation.
This is a new trend if you say something wrong about Iskcon you can get immediate fame that's what people want, shame
Who is saying anything wrong about ISKCON? ISKCON is telling wrong things to its followers. Wake up! Devi, hahaha, Devi... Do you know that in Vrindavan Lila, there is no Devi Dasi? So, I speak the truth and am considered wrong? Wake up, lady; you are in a cult.
@@bla546 And what does the word "Bhakti" mean? Yes, it means to serve, to become a servant of a servant of a servant; dasa, dasa anudasa. It seems to me that you are the one who is still in darkness (tama guna). Hare Krishna! 🙏
Isckon are great ok hare krishna prabhujii you are a mayawadi
Hahaha 😂😂😂 you are an ignorant. I have been following dadaji for a few years. I tell you that he is a genuine vaishnav. Aparadhis goes to hell. You know that? Study shastra son.
@@musafeels6913 Yes, the Shastra of Acarya Srila Prabhupada with a clear word for word translation. Hare Krishna! 🙏
Learn to love your family first, you're in bhakti for Krsna's sake, not an impersonal practice of yoga. Learn what is reciprocation, with people, plants, pets and pebbles even. In Vrindavana.
And then come back to the material world with all your family 😂
@@musafeels6913 For a pure devotee there is no difference between the spiritual world and the material world, because everything is part and parcel of Shri Krishna. Hare Krishna! 🙏
To be in Vrindavan is to be in Vrindavan consciousness. You can have a Guru but that does not mean anything. It's the state of consciousness you are in that will decide. Going back home is not that cheap, that you just buy a ticket to Vrindavan, come and leave your body and go back 😂
@upenbrs last year I went to vrindavan , I was just staying in the hotel , eating at restaurants, doing shopping and getting stuck in huge crowds just to visit any temple.
That's right. Living in Shri Vrindavan is a great furtune, but living elsewhere and always thinking of Shri Vrindavan, shri Radha Madhav and thier leelas is much more beneficial. You may not be physically in Vrindavan but your concious is always in Vrindavan, that has heigher possibilities that you may be allowed by Shriji to be in the periphery of Nitya Vrindavan.