"Are There Two Raptures?" Truth Set Free Q&A
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2019
- Pastor Steve Whinery, Matt Lewis answering questions from our Facebook Live Q&A! Please join us every Tuesday at 3:30 pm on our Facebook page, Calvary Chapel Tri-Cities!
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I can't understand why people would choose to turn away. It breaks my ❤️ for the lost. Look at Portland 😢.
That's the way I always understood it.
That was terrific. New sub.
Thank you! This has cleared up some of my confusion. God bless you.
What about Mark 13 24-27 ? it seems pretty clear to me
💯 correct. It’s clear. The tribulation already happens or is happening when the Son of Man returns. There is one rapture and it’s at the judgement. Be ready to suffer or be martyred Saints. You will drink from the same cup as your Lord and His disciples. Don’t be fooled and take the mark out of blissful ignorance. Jesus said that His people perish for LACK of knowledge.
Who are the ones who get judged by the ones sitting on the throne at the second coming? When do tribulation saints who died during the tribulation get their new bodies?
there ARE two raptures. The rapture of the church is described at Revelation 7:9. It 's this event that brings Isreal to jealousy and mourning. The rapture of tribulation saints that are still living...those who accept Christ DURING the tribulation happens at Rev 14:14-15. Tribulations saints that DIE as martyrs during the tribulation before the 2nd rapture are resurrected at Rev 20:4. They are the 1st resurrection of the dead and this is not a "rapture". The church at Rev 7:9 and tribulation saints at Rev 14:14-15. READ SCRIPTURE FOR WHAT IT SAYS AND IGNORE THESE PEOPLE. Jesus is giving us one of those raptures in the Gospels of Mark through John. Paul gives us the 2nd one in Corintians and Thessalonians. The sign of the son of man is given by Jesus in Matthew 24: Black son, Dark moon, massive earthquake and sky opening like a scroll. Cross reference this to Revelation 6:12. These are the same signs. Now describe the people in chapter Rev 7:9 described as being seen in heaven? The multitude sounds a lot like the church. Also read Ecclesiates chapter 12. See the SAME sign again. and where is says in verse 5 of chat. 12 the "mere mortal is headed to his eternal home"....THAT'S THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH (RAPTURE 1). Christ describes the rapture of the church (Rapture 1). Paul describes the rapture of the tribulation saints (Rapture 2). The tribulation saints will be mostly Isrealites if not all Isrealites. Go pick up Peter Ruckman's book called "The Two Raptures". Its free on Kindle and like $2 for a hardcopy.
There will be the pre-tribulation rapture and during the 7-year Tribulation Period, all Tribulation Saints who died or are killed by the Antichrist will be resurrected immediately and raptured to Heaven.
There are not 2 raptures. That is not biblical. It’s the same prophecy spoken about in several places. The rapture and the judgement are at the same time.
Jesus sets up the new Kingdom after Satan is annihilated and locked up in hell. He pulls 🆙 his people and judges the wicked world.
The Saints are all through out the tribulation. Most are martyred.
The “elect” always refer to Jews and not to Christians and Tribulation Saints.
That is not biblical. The elect are the Saints, the believers. Anyone who has not accepted Christ - like the metaphor of the olive tree- their branches have been cut off. And believers are grafted into that tree.
Non believers of any race or religion are not The Lord’s elect.
Okay I have questions, does the anti-christ( beast) come before the rapture ?
The Bible says the beast will make a peace treaty with Israel lasting 7 years. The first three and a half years will be glorious and then the second half of that will be the Great tribulation. The Bible says that once one is taken and one is left then come sudden destruction. In answer to your question I believe yes we will see the beast. We will be raptured right before the sudden destruction.
Rev 7:9 is the rapture of the church
Rev 14 is the rapture of trib Saints that respond to the witness of the two witnesses, the 144K and the angel spreading the eternal Gospel.
Both Raptures are BEFORE the 2nd coming where Christ comes on a HORSE!
Why send 144K servants into the world to witness to people only to leave those that accept their witness to die?
The church is in Heaven until it descends as citizens of New Jerusalem. The millennium is not for the Church. It's for Isreal.
There are TWO RAPTURES!
The only problem is that Rev. 7:13--14 it says:
13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes-who are they, and where did they come from?”
14 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
It says that they came out of the great tribulation and the elders did not know the people.
Rev.3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.------- referring to the tribulation
Yes, there are two raptures. However, the first is in Ch. 10 the second in 14.
We are currently in Ch. 9
The “crown plagues” or Coronavirus is in Ch. 9
Only dead/killed Tribulation Saints will be raptured.
The question I would like to ask is "Why do believers make the Rapture/Harpazo to be more than what Paul actually said it was?
In 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 Paul clearly stated the Order of Events as follows:
1/ The Coming of Jesus where Paul clearly says He Descends from Heaven
2/ The Trumpet of God that is Sounding that we all know is the Last Trumpet
3/ The Resurrection of the Dead Event that Paul Clearly describes in 1 Corinthians 15
AND THEN
4/ The Rapture/Harpazo where we are TOGETHER Seized and Moved from the earth into the Air to Meet Jesus!
The Greek word Harpazo only means to be seized and moved from one place to another as is clearly depicted in all 13 places where Harpazo/Rapture is used in the New Testament!
The Truth is as follows:
The Rapture/Harpazo is NOT a Coming of Christ!
The Rapture/Harpazo is NOT a Resurrection of the Dead!
The Rapture/Harpazo is NOT a Changing of Ones Body!
The Rapture/Harpazo is the Action of being moved from one place to another and it will ONLY happens AFTER the Coming of Christ takes place when the Sound of the Last Trumpet is heard and it only happens AFTER the Resurrection of the Dead takes place!
We must listen to what Paul declared and not add to or take away from what he said!
The Truth is that we Together are Raptured into the Air but ONLY after the Resurrection of the Dead has taken place and ONLY when the Coming/Parousia of Christ our Lord takes place!
I agree with you. But there is a matter that puzzles me- I have wondered why we have to be raised into the air to meet the Lord after the first resurrection. Because just as soon as Christ comes down from heaven in the clouds, He then comes down fully to earth to set up His Millenial Reign. So if we are to be on earth in the Millenium, why this particular moment when we are caught up to meet Him in the air? Why are we literally raised from the ground at all, only to have to go back down to the ground to inhabit the new Jerusalem? Why do we not remain "grounded" when we are resurrected and our bodies changed? This little point has truly puzzled me.
I have never seen a more confused person than you.
@@kat5266 Without you believing in dispensationalism and rightly dividing the word of truth, your misunderstanding of Bible prophecy from the Books of Daniel and Revelation is assured.