How to FIX The Haunted Mansion
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The Haunted Mansion is a perfect ride, let's not try to pretend that it isn't. But guys! I have so many ideas. I have TOO many ideas. So today, I'll be giving you a quick and dirty of the changes I would make to The Haunted Mansion if I was the big boss man for a day.
Anyway, enjoy.
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If Disney was truly trying to scare guests they would never have removed alien encounter.
I remember hearing all the screams on that one! I loved it so much!!!!!
True
And now that they own the Alien franchise they could have actually put in a Xenomorph. Oh well.
Has to be the dark first version that was scary. Also bring back Count Down To extinction.
As much as I agree that attraction would become so old and outdated really fast with the technology we have today, Alien was similar in a way to Honey we Shrunk the Audience,
Make a haunted mansion restaurant!! Ghost hostesses and a lightning storm by window by your table, with ghostly deserts!
Now THAT would be cool!!👍😁😱🖤
It could be like Space 220, but instead of space projections and an elevator going up, they could have another Stretching Room and head down to the Wine Cellar of the Mansion to eat, and instead of window projections, the walls and wine barrels themselves are projection mapped.
would sign that petition.
I was thinking about this at my recent trip to Disney World and was thinking it should be called “The Haunted Cafe”
As a person studying to be an Imagineer, I will personally take this on as a pet project to push for when I get a job at Imagineering. Good god, it would be amazing. Like the "Skipper's Canteen" at WDW, just for the mansion.
The candle man could sing a creepy version of “Be Our Guest” and be sponsored by Magic Candle Co.
lol.. Good one !
Omg yess
And he would smell so freaking musty 😂😂😂
I would like that
Magic Candle Company partnership in the parks for real scented candle man candles in the gift shop after the ride. Its genius i say
My first fix: get the riders to stop talking over the Ghost Host in the lobby and stretching room. I'm from out of state and every time I've visited in the last two years (twice, because, yeah, going to DL is expensive) the crowds inside the Haunted Mansion are 1) actual crowds of too many people herded inside, and 2) rude and loud. Come on, people, stop talking to each other during the show - and it's as much a show as going to the theater albeit a much shorter one - and LISTEN and look around you.
at least use library voices..
i remember when no one talked only a few people did
It seems they do cram more people into the stretch room and portrait room than they did twenty or thirty years ago. While the portrait room section has always, technically, been a line, it used to be more like walking down a hall as opposed to being crammed in a bus.
Part of the issue is that most people visiting DL are regulars/locals and have already experienced every attraction (maybe dozens or even hundreds of times). Talking over the soundtrack makes sense for them, even if it's disrespectful to those who haven't experienced the attraction.
I recite it 🥴😂🤡
"What would you change about the Haunted Mansion?" simple: i'd give Constance the animatronic she deserves
Agreed. Though I wasn't alive to see the previous Attic Brides, I've seen videos and pictures of them and would love for Constance to be an actual animatronic instead of a mannequin with a projected face.
Yes, make her an animatronic with a beating heart! She was meant to have one, according to concept art.
@@jimbodeek The beating heart brides were previous attic brides, not Constance. They used to exist.
Constance's effect does not look impressive anymore (I'd honestly say it looks straight up bad)) Make the attic scary again!
I'd remove Constance entirely and bring back the Beating Heart Bride.
When he said “Man eating Plant” I immediately thought of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors
FEEEEEEEEED ME!
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING! DONT LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT!
FEED ME SEYMOUR, FEED ME NOW!!
🎶little shop, little shop of horrors🎶
Same guy who wrote the music for that show did half the 90's Disney movies' scores. Alan Menken. Absolute legend.
As long as Paul Frees’ iconic narration as Ghost Host stays and it’s still the legendary Thurl Ravenscroft singing Grim Grinning Ghosts- I can get behind this if it were real
Thurl Ravenscroft... I swear, he comes across as the most manly gentleman I never met.
Paul Frees and Thurl Ravenscroft are actual ghosts in the mansion. It'd be a crime to take them out.
And Robie Lester as Karen and Ron Howard as Mike from that 1969 record.
Yes
When I hear "man eating plant" I think of a dude calmly eating a salad.
Narrator: "And here you'll see the man eating plant..."
Totally ordinary-looking man looks up, bewildered, a forkful of salad halfway to his mouth.
I think "Little Shop Of Horrors."
It's not wrong, nor is it right.
i kept thinking about the plant from little shop of horrors Lol
I think of Audrey II
One of the biggest things I want is an updated doom buggy loading zone. Phantom Manor has an epic grand staircase with a giant window and lightning outside. I WANT THAT!!!
True!
i know a lot of people dislike liberty square's loading area but i actually really like it with the paintings on the walls. but i agree Disneyland's is just a dark area but i think it is supposed to be to convey that *"boundless realm of the supernatural"*
I completely agree that we deserve both at MK and Disneyland a grand entrance loading zone. Increase the facade that we are in fact in a mansion
Same, in my ideal Haunted Mansion that would be the doom buggy loading zone, except without Melanie of course, instead considering the ghosts don't materialize yet we could just have Constance Hatchaway's shadow appearing everytime there is a thunder stricking
i second that!!!!!!
You know how there is a guest suite in Cinderella's Castle? You know how they are building an immersive Star Wars hotel in WDW? Well, that, but for the Haunted Mansion.
Imagine having a hotel that's themed around the haunted Mansion I would love that
I would quite literally _sell my soul_ for a guest room that can actually be used to be added to the Haunted Mansion. Spending a night inside of my favorite WDW ride? I would die a happy person.
I don't stay at Disney resorts because they're expensive, but would pay any price for a HM inspired resort
"Haunted Harbor" tying together Pirates and the Mansion the way they deserve to be
Could you imagine?!? Footsteps that appear on your floor…ghosts appearing behind mirrors that watch as you sleep…screams in the night that wake you up…your closet doorknob rattling every now and then…random gusts of air that ruffle your bedding…there’s sooooo many things you could do
@@bradbartels6778 Disney needs to hire you to design the hotel! I would use every cent in my checking account for the experience that you're describing.
It seems to me that many of the ideas for the Museum of the Weird, if incorporated into the Haunted Mansion from the start, would be incredibly iconic today. I can definitely see Wax Candle Man or Man-Eating Plant t-shirts being sold in the parks if they had made it in.
The clock is the chair is. They implemented some of Rolly's designs but not all
@@OGamerGirl92 look at the woodworking, with all the faces, the wainscoting in the loading area and DL's portrait hallway. and don't forget the copper griffin statues at the base of the staircase in MK & DL. those are all inspired from the museum of the weird stuff.
Is kinda creepy how mosy of it looks like it dealt with satanic stuff :)
Idk why, but I DO want a candle man shirt, now.
My biggest problem with this is the trackless approach. The trackless vehicles need a level surface to operate and over 70% of the ride is a big upwards slope. I found some other discrepancies with the idea but it's your vision, you had a lot of fun with it. Great video.
I’m pretty sure just bout most everything her said is incredibly unrealistic. But I think that’s what’s fun about it. It’s just a “perfect haunted mansion video”
The Candle man absolutely should be added to the ride somewhere, also I wish they were able to add another room somewhere, something simple like a living room with a fireplace, maybe a rocking chair going by itself in the corner and some wind coming through the windows. My only issue with the Disneyland version is it’s too short lol
I feel the attic is a wasted scene. I'd like to see that area re-imagined.
Same! It’s interesting but should be more to it when we go up the slope at least.
The hatbox ghost hates you
I dispise the hatchet bride. So out of place.. bring back the creepy bride with the heart beats..
@@michellenorton4766 haha same here, I don’t like that offhand Disney thinks that Constance is the owner, if you ask me I think hatbox ghost or master gracey is the owner of the haunted mansion
@@mtzdotcom7260 As a person who believes the Hatbox Ghost is George Hightower, I completely agree
Get rid of derpy Constance and make her creepy again.
Yes they should turn to attic into the original one
I wonder what a hybrid would look like.
I second that. The bride was a much stronger presence as an enigma.
YES 👏
agree 100% fuck constance. she is literally a mannequin with a projection on it :/ the older bride was so much better. didn't talk, actually moved, and looked creepy!
The Madam Leota scene should be mostly the same but with the trackless buggy you could circle around her a couple times while getting a better view of the room, with some updated effects
Yes!!! I always want to hear more of her dialogue when I pass by but the Doombuggies go too fast!
It would definitely allow you to hear her entire seance. With the Omnimover the buggies just move through and you are lucky to hear much of it. It's iconic and I wanna hear more than just three lines and then into the ballroom
They’d should implement/plus the original illusions. The candle hallway/chill that never worked, make the raven relevant, etc.
Agree! And I’d like to see the Raven’s movement less static and more articulated.
Perhaps the raven can reveal how it's like a writing desk.
@@RandyJames22 I love this reply
I want to see the flood illusion!
The raven was originally supposed to be the narrator of the story hence why they left him there as a nod to the original idea.
I'd love to see the attic scene as it was originally envisioned before Hattie went out of comission the first time, now that he's back, reunite him with Beating Heart at last. I'd put it all back how it was supposed to go, with more updated effects for the pop up heads and scenery, swap Constance for Beating Heart again, not the initial corpse-like one but the eerie glowing eyes/uncertain expression one, put the beating sound front and center. I love the original take on the attic that suggested a story for the guest to fill in rather than the over explained Constance take.
I totally agree, Constance is too in your face about everything. She basically TELLS you "I am evil, I am telling you how evil I am. I killed my husbands because I'm evil"
@@tylermannor4290 I mean, we literally saw a hint of her kind of character in the stretching room, and I mean, yeah, she's dead, she has no reason to hide what she did anymore.
a better title would be How to IMPROVE The Haunted Mansion
Yeah but then it wouldn't be clickbait
@@poletooke4691 not really
I’ll be honest, I have never heard the gargoyles talk when I go on the Haunted Mansion, not even on my recent trip
I've tried to stay behind and listen to them but I never hear anything. Either the guests are too noisy and its hard to hear over that or its not there. I could be wrong but I think those sounds might actually be in Phantom Manor only .
They are in the mansion in WDW. I've heard them. When I first heard them I thought they were children talking. Just hang back and if you need to ask the cast members let you stay for a second longer before she goes to get the next load of guest.
I didnt even know they talked
@@scottgoodman2857 yup. I’ve only been to WDW twice. I waited and heard them. The tech they use to make the voices heard around the stretching room is amazing.
It's creepy af.
I’ve always thought the loading area should look like a solarium or sunroom looking out onto the property gardens, instead of just a dark void. I like that the Disney world version is a part of the house, even if it’s just a hallway.
Right and Phantom Manor has the stair case and Melanie in the loading area. Good call.
I always saw it as the mansion being so overwhelmingly haunted and so full of ghostly energy that a section of it has mostly deteriorated into an otherworldly void.
@@ElFreakinCid not a bad way to look at it.
@@slinger0083 That's because that's the intention, even the ghost host says during that part that's the entrance to the boundless world of the supernatural, the mansion is so haunted to the point that there is an actual void of limbo
The omnimover ride system is high capacity. Make it trackless and the capacity will drop significantly.
I've heard the gargoyles talk once it was when we were stuck in the room because of the big line when I heard them start whispering I got a chill down my spine cause I never knew they did that
I would definitely change up the bride. Look, Constance is cool, but Emily has more intrigue, more mystery, and much more heartache. Constance is just, haha axe go brrrr.
Edit : Also! You know how when after the stretching room, the wall opens to the painting gallery, but above the door is just this huge ugly black wall of nothing? Yeah I'd wanna do something with that, maybe wood paneling, idk, something.
They also need to fix her face projection...when you look at it compared to the Hatbox Ghost (who comes *right after* her) it just looks bad
I like Emily because she makes you ask questions. Who is she? Why is she in the attic? Does she want to hurt me? It makes her much scarier (come on it's a HAUNTED mansion!)
I honestly love Constance, it's great having at least one ghost in the mansion who might not have the best intentions. What needs to be done is they need to fix her face. And maybe give her a real animatronic instead of making her a backlit husk.
Hey Offhand Please make this a series on other rides or lands like tomorrow world or fixing fantasy land or fixing New Orleans square stuff like that
I'll keep that in mind. ;)
Why would you try to fix what's already perfect? New Orleans Square needs no fixing. I mean, other than reopening Court of Angels.
Whoa whoa whoa I was just giving out ideas New Orleans squares fine as it is But like he said in the video there’s always stuff to improve on😂😂
@@mekhihoskins2715 The only way you can improve New Orleans Square is by bringing it to the other parks
So true 😂😂
I would have the doom buggies breaking away after madame Leota’s scene. Maybe it would be a scene with a climax to it like in Mystic Manor with Pandora’s box, but instead of the doom buggies just going on their way they are all thrust backwards as if a ghostly blast of wind pushes them all away from Leota’s table into the darkness and when the lights come up again your doom buggy will be alone in its own area of the ride. This is where you can implement the scenes of the wax candle man and man eating plant.
Absolutely! The residents of the mansion don't actually materialize until after Madame Leota's seance, which is what brings them all out to socialize. From the 1969 'The Haunted Mansion' vinyl record, the Ghost Host tells us: "We're about to participate in a seance. Madame Leota is assembling all the spirits who have been "just dying" to meet you". After the seance the Ghost Host says: "Come now...we must leave this cozy little circle, for the spirits have received your sympathetic vibrations and are beginning to materialize".
This comment needs more likes. That is a BRILLIANT idea! Well done!
@@PirateLeota But what we do see prior to that is possessed objects. Which is what things like the Wax Candle Man would be. We also see the shadow of a monstrous hand, a possibly possessed bird, and an obvious zombie trying to escape a coffin.
One of the few things I would change about the Disneyland version is Hatchaway. I like her current backstory, but her design looks too projected. The fifth incarnation of her should keep the backstory but take inspiration from the first two designs.
Totally agree! The backstory is fine, but she looks awful. I imagine that if they did a version of her that was like the Beating Heart Bride that might work... I honestly think her dialogue (monologue?) is a bit too in-your-face. Maybe just hold the hatchet and chuckle or whisper? The fact that the Hatbox Ghost is so amazing makes her even more out-of-place!
There NEEDS to be a haunted mansion restaurant. That would be the most popular restaurant in the park hands down. If Pirates can have one why can’t HM !!!
They could serve I Scream for dessert.
Child me was fascinated with the fact that one of the former bride scenes had her dress poking out from a trunk to imply her body was in it
That might be a nod to the former backstory in the Ghostly Gallery book that the cast members compiled. In this, Emily was Master Gracey's second wife. She was orphaned at sixteen and, young and vulnerable, met her distant cousin George and fell for him (though some speculated he was only after her to lock down more of the family fortune). She was young and playful on their wedding day and started a game of hide-and-seek with George at the reception, hiding in a trunk in the attic. But jealous Madame Leota locked the trunk and the poor girl suffocated. This story seems to have been inspired by an old legend that showed up in two poems, Samuel Rogers' "Ginevra" and Thomas Haynes Bayly's "The Mistletoe Bough", neither of which had a jealous rival but just an unfortunately latching trunk.
I would love the interactive queue that they have in Florida to be brought over to California. I've never been but augh, it looks like so much fun.
No, it takes up so much space and is an eyesore!
It’s definitely an interesting queue, but it’s hard to enjoy if the line is short or if it’s moving fast. Plus everyone around you is trying to do the interactive stuff as well
It kind of kills the way the attraction unfolds.
Jump start the Disney Ride Extended Universe by having Emily Blunt end the Jungle Cruise movie by moving to New Orleans with a ship captain she meets to get married. Just tease the start of haunted mansion for the next film.
Yeeeeeees😍😍😍😍😍
Can we get a proper Constance/bride?! MY GIRL NEEDS SOOO MUCH MORE REP!
I love everything you said except that the new Doom Buggies should be called “Doom Buggy Boo.0” instead of “2.0”
or tomb.0
Doom Buggy 2.Boo
Simple, add a Eddie Murphy animatronic, replace the ghost host with Eddie Murphy, add cheap open house theming so lackluster you would miss it.
And an echo of "evers and evers real estate"! From time to time
Dang. The open house theming got me.
Pass.
@@StocktonJustin95 Disney would want you to be happy for Evers and Evers
🤣
The gargoyles would have to say "lets stay 6 feet apart"
They should say "let's stay 6 feet down".
I think that the trackless idea is a cool idea in theory, but I also feel like the haunted mansion already has a person per hour problem on some days, and that would just exasperate it. I do like it though!
The art for the man eating plant would be a badass tattoo
Love your ideas, but I have to say the ONLY thing you forgot was UPGRADING CONSTANCE! Her projection is atrocious imho
i actually really really like the breaking away in the corridors of doors into 4 different scenes 👀
I've had an idea to enhance the ride for non-english-speaking or multilingual guests. Each doombuggy is equipped with a ghost-box like device that is stylized to look like something from the late 1800s to early 1900s. There would be a dial or buttons that would be used to select a language which would show on a little display/window. The device would "tune in to a spectral frequency" of a ghost narrator speaking the selected language. By default (when the buggies cycle back to the loading zone) it is set to the classic english narration. It would add a small amount of interactivity to the ride, albeit mostly utilitarian. It would probably work better in Orlando due to World's higher number of international visitors, but it would still be nice in Land, especially with the holiday overlay having more narration and giving the writers a creative challenge in adapting it while keeping the rhyme.
The idea to split the Doom Buggies up in the Corridor of Doors is gold.
I’d “feed” the caretakers dog. Puppers so scared and emaciated it always makes me kinda sad.
LOL Doggo really needs a treat.
Title: How to FIX the Haunted Mansion
Me: Impossible
(though i must admit, the graveyard could have a few more layers of outward depth) not more things, doing things. just more depth. not in the front but the far back horizon, a few more grave stones, a few more trees, a few more thickets, maybe hills and a moon rise? "depth". as it stands currently, you can see the back wall, even with the atmosphere cheese cloth stuff..
Completely agree
I know what it needs... JEAN LAFFITE
🤣👏👏👏
I agree, I adore the Haunted Mansion as is, but I also think there are some wonderful ways to build on it with modern tech that would keep the same "spirit" but enhance the experience.
"spirit." i saw what you did there.
I just bought 2 candles from the Magic Candle Company for Christmas presents, and they’re great!
I LOVED EVERY SINGLE IDEA FOR THE HALLWAYS THEY SOUND SO COOL
DISNEY LISTEN TO THIS MAN
Sadly, there literally isn't space to do it.
I think Madame Leota's parlor has to go first since it's supposedly implied that she's the one that kind of allows the ghosts and ghoulies to appear to us.
I'd add an additional scene to the graveyard. Yes there would be the crypt with skeletons, but would also be a scene where you come to some old rusted railroad tracks. On it is a steam locomotive standing at a decrepit old station that looks like it hasn't been used in a long time. A skeleton engineer leans out of the cab at the headlight shinning down the rusted rails while a shadowy fireman stokes the fire. Behind the locomotive and coal tender is a specially designed railroad car with one large window. Inside is a coffin, telling you that this is a funeral train. A ghost of a well dressed man in late 19th clothing sits on the coffin (presumably his) talking with a group of ghostly pallbearers. The car behind it is a regular passenger car with a few ghostly passengers seated and talking, then the last car you see before you move on is a dimly lit caboose. On the back platform of the caboose stands a skeleton conductor who beckons you to come aboard with one hand and be holding a red train lantern in his other. This will be inspired by the concept art for a scene at the Phantom Manor's Phantom Canyon scene. Visit sight below for more details
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I heard at one point they were going to have a restaurant inside the ride similar to Blue Bayou. I'd love to see that happen.
I wish the originally store of Mr Gracey was still intact. It’s such a dark story. With all the changes, it’s so disjointed and confusing. I used to think the hanging man was just someone who was murdered to look like a suicide for no apparent reason. Also knowing that you’re actually being pushed out of the attic and into the graveyard is genuinely scary.
You're not being pushed out. That's part of a frankly baseless fan theory that your character dies during the tour.
I’d like that wax man feature. I’ve always felt that more could be bone with Madam Leota’s room.
I clicked on this just to see what you thought needed fixing, lol. This was such a great video! I'd love a part II.
Dude ive been going threw some crazy depression stuff because of covid. And I just wanted to say Thank You for these videos. They make me so happy!
I would make it more cohesive thematically. There are clearly tiers of ghosts and effects that got more budget than the others and it makes it a jarring kind of hodgepodge. Like the Halloween section at Goodwill with all the soundmakers going at once and most of them need new batteries.
Been going on that ride monthly since 1969 it has really been going down in original quality and many budget cuts or pure neglect of tiny but big details to us lifers I wish all of it were brought back and repaired 110% in addition to the new features especially the attic and cemetery
I'd make Purple Shroud a recurring character throughout the ride but have him only appear each time for a split second. Make the guests have to REALLY look to find every appearance.
Who is purple shroud?
@@bradbradthebrad Depending on the version and location, Purple Shroud is a wraith-like figure painted on the wall right inside the seance room. You kind of have to think to look for him since the buggies have you focusing on Leota.
if i got to make a change to the haunted mansion i would probably make a christmas carol version since that is what they almost did but then they picked nightmare before christmas but i just think a christmas carol haunted masion would be cool-
They should do it one year to test it out
I really like these "new" ideas. I would further say that implementing these improvements might actually be fairly easy. You have to remember in all cases the HM ride is actually in what's essentially a warehouse behind the Haunted Mansion's facade (well facade in Diseny World - Disneyland's ride is below and behind the HM building). It would be quite easy to just tear down the "interior" warehouse ride, leaving the facade part alone, and rebuilding an entirely new larger "interior" warehouse with technical modernization of the old scenes and the addition of new scenes. The only down side is that I'm sure the ride would probably be out of commission for a couple years. (PS - I agree, NO VIDEO SCREENS!)
Probably should have labeled it as 'Enhanced' or 'Improved' so you didn't have to repeat yourself. XD
You know what, I probably should have.
The Haunted Mansion: Under New Management
To fix haunted mansion they need to bring back the beating heart bride the pop up ghosts and find a way to get the la da singer back into the us rides
please Disney
@@tylermannor4290 they might bring one of these things back after all did they say they were gonna add new magic to the haunted mansion
What's the la da singer?
@@kristenhanisch8508 the La-Da singer was a character in the graveyard who la-da-da-dum the grim grinning ghost song it was in the California mansion from 1969 to 1980s as for florida one he was there until 2007 thankfully Tokyo still has him
Of course as I was watching this, I was thinking about things I would add on top of this, along with how everything would be translated over to the Haunted Mansion Holiday. Here’s what I came up with.
Regular Haunted Mansion:
- Make the cue more interactive like in Orlando and Tokyo
- Add something to the loading zone. It’s just a black void and is desperately in need of something there
- Replace the bride. Right now the bride looks kind of stupid. I would swap her out with a new bride similar to the first, but much more lifelike. She would still say what she does right now.
- Bring back the beating heart in the attic.
Haunted Mansion Holiday:
- The Gargoyles would whisper what they normally do, along with creepy versions of line from Christmas carols. An example would be “Deck the halls with bones, so jolly. Tee hee hee.”
- Changing portraits would be changed like the rest. They would be Nightmare Before Christmas themed.
- The Wax Candle Man room would be mostly the same. The main difference would be that instead of regular candles, they’re scented candles. The room would smell really nice until you get to the Candle Man. You would also see he has a half melted label that reads something like “Rotting Corpse.”
- The Man Eating Plant room. Is this where the wreath is? Ha! No! The wreath is where he normally is. The plant in this room is the same except that it’s in sync with Kidnap the Sandy Claws and shares a slight resemblance to the plants in the choir. Not a giant version of the plants in the choir, just a resemblance.
- Captain Gore’s room would just be a Christmas party that you crashed. That’s it.
-The Mystery House would be a lead in to the ballroom. The ghosts would be making their way to the party.
-The attic would be the most different room. Instead of the paths leading to one of Constance’s husbands, they would lead to one of five characters. These would be the three jack in the boxes that are already in the holiday attic, the vampire teddy bear, the snake eating the naughty-nice list, that creepy duck toy, and a bone rooster sitting on top of a piano being played by a ghost.
-Constance would be in a more festive dress rather than her bridal gown and have different lines. What these lines are I haven’t figured out yet.
-The Hatbox Ghost could have a Santa hat on top of the hat he’s already wearing along with the little pin thing he already has.
-The skeletons in the crypts would have Santa hats on them.
-Instead of Oogie Boogie replacing the hitchhiking ghosts, he would stand along side them. The hitchhiking ghosts would also be wearing festive attire.
Thoughts? I’m probably going to edit this over and over again as the days go by, and new ideas come.
That hallway/floating candles is my favorite piece in the mansion aside from the shadow playing piano.
Phantom Manor is a far darker and more gothic version, it satisfies my needs for a more “grown up” version. Still not SCARY, but there’s no jokey ghosts, no cheesy puns. It’s got Vincent Price, haunting music and a town full of undead cowboys, and I love it!
Even more interesting is that the facade seems like it was inspired by earlier design concepts for Disneyland's Haunted Manson.
@@tidepoolclipper8657 It’s definitely a more traditional haunted house/horror facade design, it reminds me of the Addams Family house, or the original Bates Hotel from Psycho.
I'd like to see out the windows of the Haunted Mansion to the "world outside." This would actually be projection screens. For instance, at WDW we could see out the window behind the ghost trying to escape it's coffin. What do we see outside for instance? Well, we see a decrepit ghostly Liberty Square riverboat floating by filled with ghosts and beyond that Tom Sawyer's island where all the trees are dead and ghosts are there on holiday!
The one thing I’d change is reverting the black widow bride’s appearance back to how she looked when the ride first opened. Where her only visible features were her glowing yellow eyes, a pulsing red light for her beating heart, and the ethereal blue wedding dress. All other features shrouded in pitch black shadows with the addition of a bloody axe in one hand and a candlestick in the other with a ghostly blue flame burning at the tip of the candle.
I find this appearance to be far more striking and frightening compared to her current design. And it’s also symbolic of the loss of her humanity in becoming so evil in life that in death she is merely a shadow of who she was in life with very little resemblance of ever being human at all. Becoming closer to a demon in appearance because of her evil actions in life.
1. Update the charging portraits (maybe make them interactive)
2. Fill in the void in the loading area.
3. Maybe have the doors in the hallway open as you pass by revealing a different ghost each time.
Personally, I really love all these ideas and think they suit the Haunted mansion perfectly. I remember I had an idea similar to yours, but with the haunted mansion holiday decor- now hear me out at least. Remember how at the beginning of the nightmare before Christmas, there were all the doors for the different holidays? Well, I thought many years ago, it would be a neat idea to go through them to see how Jack and the citizens of Halloween town would take those holidays over in Tim Burtonesque style. Of course, they'd be strange and Bizzare, yet would still be charming, and offer a glimpse of what could be if jack took over another holiday. Nevertheless, I love both Mansion(s)- overlays?- respectively and feel as if these additions would be the epitome of the haunted mansion itself.
Love your thinking!! Personally I believe that would make for a fantastic standalone attraction. I believe successful attractions don't simply retell the story. I believe this has real potential for a ride/attraction especially in the other parks where there is a lack of nightmare influence.
You should look into being an imagineer
Thank you all for your kind replies. I had forgotten about my concept for that years and years ago. I never really thought how that would work, but it being trackless (I've had the opportunity to ride pooh's hunny hunt and Rise of the Resistance) is perfect. I love the entire freedom and wonders that designers and imagineers have with these rides, taking immersion to a whole other level. I hope that possibly in the future I could work at Disney as an imagineer. I've entirely loved Disney for all my life, and would find it amazing to be able to unleash my concepts for not only the rides, but the parks themselves too. Especially for everyone, to the casual park goes to devoted disney fans like us. I'd see to it that these concepts in this video would be implement into a haunted mansion in some form.
personally my fix for the attic would be to just revert it to how it was before 2006 (pop up groomsmen, and the Beating Heart Bride) In addition to the Hatbox Ghost and the piano, the piano can stay
I think the idea of Constance is cool. Her projected face looks positively goofy and she doesn't scare me nearly as much as she did when I was younger when I kept my eyes closed and could only hear her. I'm not old enough to have gone on the ride when the attic bride was a thing but apparently the bride had an animatronic rather than a projection? Constance definitely deserves better.
I love how you chose to "plus" the Haunted Mansion by using the Corridor of Doors to expand the attraction and include interesting and fun concepts which were abandoned for various reasons through the development of the attraction for various reasons. You brought in some really interesting ideas and I wish some of them could be included in the ways you introduced them.
I was fortunate enough to meet Marc Davis, Xavier Attencio, and Tony Baxter while I worked at Disneyland in the early 1990's. See both the inside of the attraction with the lights on as well as the area around the Show Building. Unfortunately the land needed to expand the scenes off of the Corridor of Doors is occupied by three large natural gas storage containers for Fantastic, the Sound Room for Pirates of The Caribbean, and the Show Building for Pirates of the Caribbean itself.
The room for Madame Leota's seance is significantly larger than what is actually used, as is the cemetery. Additionally if more back stage workshops are moved offsite as were done with the expansion of Batuu, the back portion of the Show Building for Haunted Mansion technically could be added onto and the attraction could be made longer.
With this being said; it would be a hard sell changing a "people eating" attraction like the Omni-Mover over to to a slower load-unload system of the Trackless Ride systems with both Park-Ops and corporate. The other hard sell being, will these additions actually get butts through the turnstile when the existing attraction already draws HUGE numbers as it is?
The bottom line being-you might sell the corporate big wigs on plussing the attraction with inexpensive polishes and upgraded special effects than on a major expansion to a very popular attraction.
Why not add a room with "all" of the brides having a tea party?
wdym "all" of the brides? there is only 1 bride
or all the headless husbands.
@@Mustacheshake1 Mélanie, Constance and Emily
This will kill the capacity of the mansion. Expect huge wait times.
I loved this video, so I decided to share some ideas of my own!
The trackless Doom Buggies aka Doom Buggies 2.0 would give the house more of an exploring feel! With that you could go where were your buggie takes you then return to the group for the important scenes.
The first idea I have (now I know it may not work as the DL HM is smaller and older, but it's worth a shot) Going down the endless hallway for a way out. You go down the hallway of creaking, opening doors and torches on the walls, maybe add some more changing paintings until you reach the end of the hallway with the floating candelabra and a disbodied voice shouting at you to "GO BACK!" and your buggie gets pulled backward, allowing you to return to the other buggies.
The second idea expands on the door idea. How there could be other rooms that you can see other ghosts in. This would be a room that has a ghost in her bed tossing and turning, trying to sleep as the party in the ballroom is disturbing her undead beauty sleep. There is an angry ghost cat at the foot of her bed hissing at you as well as the ghost's husband coming out of the extra door on the side, a bathroom, yelling at you with his fist in the air for adding to the disturbance of his wife's sleep, maybe add some toilet paper on his foot for a gag.
The third idea is just adding to the ghosts and scenery in the graveyard. I feel that scene is rushed when it is supposed to be the best part of the ride! Add some new ghosts, like a plague doctor and a plague victim. The plague doctor pouring some unknown potion on his patient as the patient laughs. The scenery could be more trees and a moon! To add that there are 999 happy haunts, add some more tombstones near the back with the trees and skyline.
Those are my silly suggestions! Hope you enjoyed them!
One thing I would change if I was given free reign is to make it feel more like you're actually moving through the rooms of a house. Currently the transitions between scenes does not feel like I'm exploring an actual house.
Glad Constance stays in your version. She's my favorite character in the mansion and I know she has a lot of mixed reactions from the fandom. I love the idea of breaking off and seeing her husbands! Also, instead of her model being a weird, janky projection, it would be awesome of Constance was an actual animatronic.
yes, Plus.. She's one ghost that i think goes by too quickly. It would more effective to approach her from more of a distance.
They need to make her fully animatronic and ditch the projection then.
My two cents: Lightweight headsets Bluetooth audio from the Doombuggy in order to enhance or fill out, add depth and immersion into the sounds. Sounds are often lost by variations in the speaker volumes or locations, at least last time I was there in 2015. But there's more! With typical 3 DOF-type sensors in the headset, the sound would focus on what you are looking at. If you want to keep head-tracking Madame Leota after you pass by on the way to the ballroom or following one of my favorites, the Singing Busts in the graveyard. The guest gets real immersion in what interests them as well as the full sound of all that goes on if not looking at any particular featured scene and in the background when "focused". As noted in other comments about the lobby and stretching room, it just seems to get noisier and noisier every day and in a trackless vehicle with (presumably) no shell as the track Doombuggy currently has, you surely get the enjoyment of hearing more of people's opinions and discussions. That kind of impolite self-centeredness can, and IMO certainly does, crash the intended experience of the Haunted Mansion. And for the final touch, Little Leota then gets the added "job" of reminding you to drop off your headset as you pass by her lest you suffer a horrible fate as the eternal "hang-in" for the Ghost Host in the Stretching Room when he needs a break - to go for a stretch, I suppose. Or would he be doing the opposite... well, anyway.
I never noticed that the gargoyles spoke/whispered! I guess it’s always been too loud and I always left as soon as the doors open because I was too excited to get on the ride
The only two things that I'd love to change is the scene in Madam Leota's room by incorporating the 'Teleco' red phone & update the hatbox ghost to do 1 of 2 things
1. it stays the same
2. during the event of the anniversaries of the haunted mansion, featuring the beating-heart ghost/Constance, to have the hatbox ghost to decapitate himself, but design it so that it never makes the head return his head to his neck, but have green or blue screen blood ooze on out of the wound, covering some lucky riders in pigs blood
Imagine a ride just like Haunted Mansion, but with a Halloween Horror Nights style of horror
Yes! SO yes! I've always wanted to go through those doors!!
Daydreaming about how I would plus attractions is one of my favourite things to do in the park, just letting my mind wander. More videos like this please!
One thing I would change about Madame Leota's room is the annoying musical instruments floating around on clearly visible strings, playing at an annoyingly loud decibel.
A) use mirrors and drop skrims to make it appear that the doom buggies in front of you disappear as they branch off. You will feel so much more alone.
B) randomize the trackless doom buggies so during low occupancy they visit all four areas (from different directions and in different orders) before the ballroom. Make Madame Leoni a fifth area. During high occupancy, decrease the number of areas visited down to maybe two minimum. You may need to ride it a dozen times on a busy day to see it all. The ballroom, some form of attic experience and the graveyard should be every ride. Everything else is random and varied. If any of the parts need down for repairs or maintenance, the rest keep running.
I want to get rid of Constance or upgrade her. I do miss the beating heart bride and the mystery surrounding her. However I wouldn’t mind Constance getting an upgrade instead of being a projection.
Oooh yeah I miss the old bride, I liked the story/mystery that surrounded her better
If they ever do a new Disneyland in another country they should consult you.
It would be cool if we had one in England
@@necroticdemonart The Paris park is suppose to serve Europe, even if it might be difficult to get there. And they would have to compete with Alton Towers, which they would be better off just buying out if the opportunity arose.
@@necroticdemonart England wouldn't ever want a Disney. They love their Alton Towers
I'd work for free.
@@necroticdemonart they're actually building one in England. It will hopefully be done by 2024.
The one minor detail that you have to take into consideration is that NO GHOSTS actually appear until after Madam Leota calls to them. The dead "zombie" in the casket doesn't count as a ghost apparition.
I think you've really outdone yourself with this video. I LOVE the idea of trackless buggies that split off into the four rooms. What a really cool idea! Haunted Mansion is also my wife and I's favorite ride (but we're in NJ so WDW is our park of choice), so this would give us even more reason to ride it over and over again. :) Our son was born in February, and we're already planning a trip for possibly 2021-2022 to WDW and can't wait to introduce him to the ride...... Even if he'll be a little on the young side!
one thing i always thought would be neat was having a headless horseman takeover around halloween, and save the holiday takeover for when the rest of the park is festive. if not, he could always haunt the mr. toad ride, since that was his sister film, after all.
They should add taking a picture of people at the end of the ride like MK
I’ve never been to Walt Disney World so I’ve never experienced their version of The Haunted Mansion, but the whole talking/singing gargoyles thing is very awesome and creepy
Well done. Love your ideas. I look forward to seeing more videos on the other rides! Improvements and alternatives just like you suggestions for the haunted mansion.
Even though the Haunted Mansion isn't necessarily scary, I'm always comforted by the fact that there are people around me at all times while I'm on the ride even if I can't really see them because of the shape of the Doom Buggies. So,u a trackless system with much more space between cars would probably deter me to be uncomfortable *just* enough to maybe not enjoy the ride as much. But, I do see how a trackless system would work well and that it could be implemented in some way in a Haunted Mansion 2.0 some time in the future!
Endless Staircase, ya say?
Are the ghosts doing BLJ’s up there?
We look up and just see this little plumber ghost jittering around and letting out a glitched-sounding endless "yahoo"
My suggestion for making The Haunted Mansion even better involves Madame Leota's room:
During/a few seconds after Leota speaks one of her phrases such as "wizards and witches', wherever you dwell, give us a hint, by ringing a bell." A couple of screens around the room, which would be made to look like fancy/exotic mirrors, would show very short videos of Disney characters doing said action Madame Leota asks of them.
Such as for the witches' and wizards one, I'd have the screens show wizard Mickey, Madame Mim, Merlin, and Jafar ringing a bell in some manner.
When I was a kid, the stretching room, the hall of portraits, and the doom buggy loading area were DARK...like, really dark. Much creepier atmosphere, made the lightning flashes much more effective. I wish they'd turn the lights down a little in those areas, but I guess there were lawsuits or something. Also, I wish people in the stretching room would shut up these days and enjoy the show, but I guess that's not something Disney can fix. (Love your videos, by the way.)
I'd forgotten how much darker it used to be!
I would live to see the “museum of the weird” in its entirety as part of the walk out of the attraction. so, it would become another attraction within the attraction, after little leota.
Rad video but he forgot the spoiler timestamp for Runaway Railway he said he’d put
Dang you're right. I'll pin a comment.
@@OffhandDisney it's still not there
Loved this. Exactly the sort of videos I love. I needed this today. Gets the imagination flowing. Please make a part 2. I always wish the corridor scene had a ceiling as I feel when you look up and see how high up the room is it takes you out of the mansion.
I like your ideas but the one tweak I would make is I would add an extra "floor" to the mansion. I'd keep the hallway the same, then Leota, then the ballroom, then I'd do the four scenes you suggested as "bedrooms" before moving to the attic. I always think it's important not to really "see" the ghosts until Leota summons them, and I think it'd be a nice ramp up to the attic scene.