Thank you for your likes, comments and support! Link to Part 2 of this book review - ua-cam.com/video/mk-23N-tGrw/v-deo.html History of Soviet Atheism - ua-cam.com/video/E3bwQ956V1E/v-deo.html Please, support Religiolog through a one-time donation: www.paypal.com/paypalme/relig... Or become my Patron: www.patreon.com/4religiolog Timecodes: 1:47 - major claims of the book 4:40 - what is religion and what is secularization 6:10 - Chapter 1: secularization theory 14:00 - addressing counterarguments from opponents 18:17 - Chapter 2: The Evidence (data) from over 100 countries 21:14 - Chapter 3: A closer look at Norway, Chile, South Korea and the US 23:14 - Chapter 4: Is being secular unnatural? 25:37 - Chapter 6: Exceptions - how do we explain them? 31:35 - critique, possible limitations of the book, what could be improved 42:00 - parallels with Inglehart's Religion's Sudden Decline 44:31 - conclusion
I would say that my (Anglican) church (in a British village) might show proof of secularisation - it is about 900 years old and seats about 100. There are photos from around 1900 of big crowds of people around the church, but nowadays there is only around 25-30 of us who attend every Sunday, and spare the vicar and two people in their 40s/50s, i am the only church attendee under 65. There are other explanations for this like rural-urban migration and people leaving Anglicanism for other denominations like Catholicism or Baptism (plus there are two other churches in my village and I don’t know how many attend there), but given the high attendance 100 years ago and the fact that Anglicanism is the biggest Christian denomination in England, I find it interesting.
Indeed, you've sparked my curiosity. Enough so that I'm looking into how to get the ebook version on my Kobo reader when it releases, or a bit after. Also looking at Religion's Sudden Decline first since you recommended it so highly as a companion book.
Great, video. I’m going to buy the book, for those chapters you only had time to gloss over. I’m a subscriber now and I look forward to more interesting work. Thanx!
*"Our Hearts bring back the Light."* Wishing you all a Wonderful Winter Solstice. A traditional celebration dating back well over 5000 years ago where the Sun is literally rebirthed in the passageway of an ancient tomb. "The Grand Passage Tomb." A World Heritage site. Witness the rebirth in person. A celebration of life and renewal, peace and camaraderie with food, song, dance, drink and goodwill. Happy Holidays. Let the Sunshine In... *Be Happy* "Solstice Night by S J Tucker" thank you.
As a Hindu from India, I believe that western sociologists have not properly studied the experience of religion in India which is evident from the fact that the authors of the book being discussed have not included the Indian society as a case study. As an Indian, I can confirm that religion has been rising in India, specifically speaking with respect to Hinduism, compared to the Western experience. Western sociologists cannot arrive at a realistic theory of religion as long as they don't study religion in India, one because India is the most populated country in the world, and two, because religious expression has been the strongest in India, which is substantiated by the fact that India has been the birthplace of 4 religions.
Thank you for your comment. Indeed there is a need to study India deeper. We really need a better understanding of that society, though we have many academic works already. At least, one such study is about rationalists in India. Please check this book: Quack, Johannes. 2012. Disenchanting India: Organized Rationalism and Criticism of Religion in India. New York, NY: Oxford University Press
@@religiologEng Thanks for the reply. Anyway, so the most famous work of sociology of religion in India so far in Western academics has been about how atheism disguised as "rationalism" is taking over in India? No wonder why sociologists in West studying religion will have a very little success in understanding religion in India. These low scale "rationalist" movements in India are very insignificant and unknown. The religiosity in the Indian society as a whole is very strong (which is only strengthening) in order for these movements have any impact.
@@Himanshu-vz5xe there are some other interesting works on India that you might like: Michaels, Axel. 2016. Homo ritualis. Hindu Rituals and its Significance for Ritual Theory. Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press./// Balagangadhara, S. N. (2010) "Orientalism, Postcolonialism, and the 'Construction' of Religion" in Bloch, Keppens & Hegde (Eds.), Rethinking Religion in India: The Colonial Construction of Hinduism. New York: Routledge, pp. 135-163
India is not a developed or modern country. Our modernization ia still going on and is a topsy-turvy path where all aspects of societies are not getting modernized.
Quite the opposite is happening . Humanity is discovering a NEW GOD PERSPECTIVE. And millions of good hearts and souls from EVERY NATION and EVERY CREED are moving towards a point of unity. 'Let your ambition be the achievement on earth of a heavenly civilisation' [Bahai teaching]
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Here is a relevant quote for you , unknown friend. I am sure It doesn't apply to you . "Condemnation before investigation is the height of ignorance" [Albert Einstein]
@@tripzville7569 not sure you know what condemnation means as I just asked what you were smoking. I just disagree with your unsupported assertion but if you have anything to actually support your assertion I am happy to listen. But I do note your passive aggressive style of reply.
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Hello again unknown friend . What I took from your 'what are you smoking ' comment , was indeed condemnation and the allusion that , i was on drugs , you know the thing , I do not know what i am talking about etc etc. I would like to ask ,have you taken the time to Independently Investigate the reality of what I speak off ?. Look forward to your detailed analysis of my first post which i shall repeat for your convenience "Humanity is discovering a NEW GOD PERSPECTIVE. And millions of good hearts and souls from EVRY NATION and every creed are moving towards a point of unity '
So is religion rising in other parts of the world? Or is it declining every where because islam seems to be doing just fine with 2 billion muslims (although maybe not in iran) and although christianity is declining theirs still a good amount of christians but to their extent of religioisty is unknown.
And to be fair I think that their is a possibility of religion coming back to the west its not really likely but who knows political issues change perhaps its possible religion rises
Everything is possible. who knows, maybe soon there will appear another great prophet that will inspire millions of people to follow. So we don't know the future. And yes, in some part of the world religion is rising while in some its declining. Please watch the second part of this video - the link is in the description
Thank you for your likes, comments and support! Link to Part 2 of this book review - ua-cam.com/video/mk-23N-tGrw/v-deo.html History of Soviet Atheism - ua-cam.com/video/E3bwQ956V1E/v-deo.html Please, support Religiolog through a one-time donation: www.paypal.com/paypalme/relig... Or become my Patron: www.patreon.com/4religiolog
Timecodes: 1:47 - major claims of the book
4:40 - what is religion and what is secularization
6:10 - Chapter 1: secularization theory
14:00 - addressing counterarguments from opponents
18:17 - Chapter 2: The Evidence (data) from over 100 countries
21:14 - Chapter 3: A closer look at Norway, Chile, South Korea and the US
23:14 - Chapter 4: Is being secular unnatural?
25:37 - Chapter 6: Exceptions - how do we explain them?
31:35 - critique, possible limitations of the book, what could be improved
42:00 - parallels with Inglehart's Religion's Sudden Decline
44:31 - conclusion
Very thoughtful review, you're quite good at this.
Thank you, Willian!
I would say that my (Anglican) church (in a British village) might show proof of secularisation - it is about 900 years old and seats about 100. There are photos from around 1900 of big crowds of people around the church, but nowadays there is only around 25-30 of us who attend every Sunday, and spare the vicar and two people in their 40s/50s, i am the only church attendee under 65. There are other explanations for this like rural-urban migration and people leaving Anglicanism for other denominations like Catholicism or Baptism (plus there are two other churches in my village and I don’t know how many attend there), but given the high attendance 100 years ago and the fact that Anglicanism is the biggest Christian denomination in England, I find it interesting.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!
Indeed, you've sparked my curiosity. Enough so that I'm looking into how to get the ebook version on my Kobo reader when it releases, or a bit after. Also looking at Religion's Sudden Decline first since you recommended it so highly as a companion book.
thanks for sharing this! I'm glad it was helpful!
@@religiologEng Very much so!
Great, video. I’m going to buy the book, for those chapters you only had time to gloss over. I’m a subscriber now and I look forward to more interesting work. Thanx!
Thank you for appreciating my work! And welcome to the channel!
0:22 good,cool🎉
One can only hope. For the sake of humanity, we can only hope.
Fantasy always becomes less noticeable.
No hetero but I rlly like your voice, such a nice accent to listen to
Wow, glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing!
I agree. It’s a very soothing voice.
*"Our Hearts bring back the Light."*
Wishing you all a Wonderful Winter Solstice.
A traditional celebration dating back well over 5000 years ago where the Sun is literally rebirthed in the passageway of an ancient tomb.
"The Grand Passage Tomb." A World Heritage site. Witness the rebirth in person.
A celebration of life and renewal, peace and camaraderie with food, song, dance, drink and goodwill.
Happy Holidays.
Let the Sunshine In...
*Be Happy*
"Solstice Night by S J Tucker"
thank you.
As a Hindu from India, I believe that western sociologists have not properly studied the experience of religion in India which is evident from the fact that the authors of the book being discussed have not included the Indian society as a case study. As an Indian, I can confirm that religion has been rising in India, specifically speaking with respect to Hinduism, compared to the Western experience. Western sociologists cannot arrive at a realistic theory of religion as long as they don't study religion in India, one because India is the most populated country in the world, and two, because religious expression has been the strongest in India, which is substantiated by the fact that India has been the birthplace of 4 religions.
Thank you for your comment. Indeed there is a need to study India deeper. We really need a better understanding of that society, though we have many academic works already. At least, one such study is about rationalists in India. Please check this book: Quack, Johannes. 2012. Disenchanting India: Organized Rationalism and Criticism of Religion in India. New York, NY: Oxford University Press
@@religiologEng Thanks for the reply. Anyway, so the most famous work of sociology of religion in India so far in Western academics has been about how atheism disguised as "rationalism" is taking over in India? No wonder why sociologists in West studying religion will have a very little success in understanding religion in India. These low scale "rationalist" movements in India are very insignificant and unknown. The religiosity in the Indian society as a whole is very strong (which is only strengthening) in order for these movements have any impact.
@@Himanshu-vz5xe there are some other interesting works on India that you might like: Michaels, Axel. 2016. Homo ritualis. Hindu Rituals and its Significance for Ritual Theory. Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press./// Balagangadhara, S. N. (2010) "Orientalism, Postcolonialism, and the 'Construction' of Religion" in Bloch, Keppens & Hegde (Eds.), Rethinking Religion in India: The Colonial Construction of Hinduism. New York: Routledge, pp. 135-163
India is not a developed or modern country. Our modernization ia still going on and is a topsy-turvy path where all aspects of societies are not getting modernized.
Is it a problem for a Hindu to no longer believes and is shunned by his family as a result?
Quite the opposite is happening . Humanity is discovering a NEW GOD PERSPECTIVE. And millions of good hearts and souls from EVERY NATION and EVERY CREED are moving towards a point of unity.
'Let your ambition be the achievement on earth of a heavenly civilisation' [Bahai teaching]
What are you smoking?
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Here is a relevant quote for you , unknown friend. I am sure It doesn't apply to you . "Condemnation before investigation is the height of ignorance" [Albert Einstein]
@@tripzville7569 not sure you know what condemnation means as I just asked what you were smoking. I just disagree with your unsupported assertion but if you have anything to actually support your assertion I am happy to listen. But I do note your passive aggressive style of reply.
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Hello again unknown friend . What I took from your 'what are you smoking ' comment , was indeed condemnation and the allusion that , i was on drugs , you know the thing , I do not know what i am talking about etc etc. I would like to ask ,have you taken the time to Independently Investigate the reality of what I speak off ?. Look forward to your detailed analysis of my first post which i shall repeat for your convenience "Humanity is discovering a NEW GOD PERSPECTIVE. And millions of good hearts and souls from EVRY NATION and every creed are moving towards a point of unity '
I want some too…. You know, whatever you’re smoking! 😂
Steve Bruce?
What do you mean? Yes, he is in favor of the secularization theory, but he isn't one of the authors of this book.
So is religion rising in other parts of the world? Or is it declining every where because islam seems to be doing just fine with 2 billion muslims (although maybe not in iran) and although christianity is declining theirs still a good amount of christians but to their extent of religioisty is unknown.
And to be fair I think that their is a possibility of religion coming back to the west its not really likely but who knows political issues change perhaps its possible religion rises
Everything is possible. who knows, maybe soon there will appear another great prophet that will inspire millions of people to follow. So we don't know the future. And yes, in some part of the world religion is rising while in some its declining. Please watch the second part of this video - the link is in the description