Why a G&G GR25?
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2020
- Of all the SR25 variants, why go with the worst?
The noise that comes out of these things is nasty - the chrono test was done before the final tuning of the gun & was a simple video update of the work for the customer.
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I always thought it was weird how G&G on their SR25 they used a standard v2 gearbox, while on their L85 they used a SR25 cylinder and gears, it makes no sense!!!
Archie Keen big brain time
They actually use their g2h gearbox in the Sr25 and the Tr16 308 models.
@@floriangramsch9036 what different from the g2h to the normal version???? I thought that the V2.5 is more volume than the g2H :D
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New Cyma Premium SR25 is the way to go nowdays imho.
Sadly it won't fit RA inside... aaaand that kinnda sucks in case if GB is going to crack
I love how the mosfet plays music
Agreed
Agreed.
Agreed
I think you should do a recommendations video on what's the best buy on the market right now. Can only trust you now
Congrats on code red video on airsoftology man well deserved
Your little lizid is glorious. I hope we can see more of them in future videos.
Really informative! Didn't see any discussion on the gearbox on really any G&G SR25 review videos
You just earned yourself a sub well done!
This is the first airsoft video I seen where the person reviewing the gun is cussing like a sailor lmfao I love it imma sub
I got the CYMA Platinum Sr25. It's phenomenal
That cyma sounded really good actually
I've had several G&G's throughout the past 8-10 years and they do typically sound pretty "bouncy" and tin-ish almost. Find this is easy to fix by heat shrinking the ends of your spring. Don't go crazy with the heatshrink or you will run into issues but a little on the front and(or) back tends to make the gun quieter with little to no difference in FPS
As you were right about the VFC HK45ct I will now go order an Avengers KAC SR25L .
Great video. I liked the gb sound compareson
I just bought a Cyma sr25 after i had a bad A&K sr25.
Love it.
Need to do a littlebit of upgrades, shimming etc.
I read most of the reviews are positive so i cant wait to test it out!
been running my GR25 for over 5 yrs now put in an upgrade barrel and tuned it up and never had a problem in all 5 yrs even did a distance test with fellow players and their MTW platforms and shot same distance guess i got lucky and got the one that was made just right lol
I have the new knights armament sr25 with the new gearbox (G2H whatever) it’s a beefed up v2 gearbox but keeps a standard v2 HopUp unit. Got a fluke when I got my first one with the HopUp bucking but when I got the replacement it shot beautifully, I went to change the motor to a more torque motor to pull a bigger spring and the draw required for it blew up the stock mosfet in the stock, which was shit. Bought the Perun mosfet for it and it solved all the issues. But G&g shouldn’t have had that to happen in the first place
Bought a second hand A&K over a new G&G. To be fair the guy who had it tried to remove a tooth from the piston and stripped the entire back end of it off, and some how killed the motor, but for £150, and £50 worth of parts, I genuinely love it.
Quality content!
Many thanks for this video, After much research, I purchased the Cyma sr25 platinum edition. build quality seems great, no play between the upper and lower, hop unit is great, The hop rubber fitted had trouble lifting heavier BBs but then alot of others do so....Meh. Had to trim the feed lips to fit the monster hop rubber but other then that it runs great! i have a perun hybrid to throw in it when the microswitch fails but until then, Fuck it, im running it as is until something breaks.
what do you think of the G&G TR16 MBR 308SR, im planning on converting it to hpa but prob play with it as a an AEG for a bit (can't afford to drop that much cash at once) im gonna go with the air tank in the stock option airline free so less snagging
Your videos great as always! What you think about their CM16 series with ETU and cost about $170?
Do you know what causes that twangy sound? I had that with one of my old guns also. Is it the spring vibrating or the piston bouncing around after firing?
What do you think about the King Arms TWA M4's? I got the Type 2 version and tbh it sounds alot like that SR25 you worked on here to me. Also, I can't advise the B&W Promethus M92's... they have a weird release valve in the mag that is apparently hard to find spares for and one of my mags blew the valve pretty much first fill. Not impressed.
Could you do a video on the cyma platinum can't find much on it right now I have a vfc but kind of want a separate build.
I'm agree the g&g arp9 sounds like a loose spring and I hate that sound and I want to get rid of it but the gun performance very good with a better barrel and hot rubber .Btw spot on arp9 impression noise 10/10
Excellent break down on the available SR25 AEGs out there... jeez i want me that CA!
Your little monster is cute as heck!
what exactly did you do to this i have a G&G MBR308 and wanna up the FPS and make it more consistent, any ideas?
if i knew about all these problems with it then i would never had bought on 5 years ago. cost me a small fortune to get it shooting properly and as a dmr.
An honest airsoft reviewer with exotic pets, you sir deserve my sub!
This video is probably too old to see my comment, but do you happen to know anything about Bravo KAC SR25 OEM by E&C?
What's your oppinion on the G&G GC16? I personally bought the GC16 Wildhog as my first replica and it doesn't sound nearly as bad as this one. Chose to buy the GC16 over the CM16 because of the better internals.
why would shortening the barrel increase fps? is it related to cylinder/ barrel volume ratios?
Can you make a review about the Cyma ar?
I believe that the quite fancy externals of G&G guns are ooling people a bit, I bought a G&G 552 and th externals are almost like the real deal, yet it shoots as well as my Cyma ak that cost 1/3 of the price. The Cyma has externals that are not that fancy but ok.
I've heard that Specna arms are really good, don't know if they have an SR25 model out yet though.
G&G has abled yo market itself as a luxury brand for some reason., at least where I live they are quite expensive.
Plus points for the lizzard, beautiful little creature.
I think I missed something, what was the downsides of a Classic Army SR25?🤔
Hi. Do you think u can fit a A&K sr25 v2.5 gearbox in the gr25 body?
I would love to see a upgrade video of your avenger from base to fully upgraded
Nice videos woman keep up the good work👍🏻🙊
I’m buying my mates at the end of the month shooting about 380 no upgrades his is amazing
how about the G&G SR25 E2 APC ? is it just as bad ? would u say the krytac trident spr is a better choice?
Can you recall who stocks the avenger rifles in the UK?
This man is speaking the truth now thats a review
The newest GR25's use standard v2 hopups and nozzles now. So the old G&G mags dont work as the feed point is propietary now.
Yes. Seriously, fuck G&G and their predatory tactics.
Hey j.s my a&k uses a v2 with a long nozzle. I can use the standard hop up though. My "matrix aka avengers " is also a v2 with long nozzle and the pos 2 peace hop up.
Heyo! Mind doing a video on an E&L Gen 2 AK when/if you get one?
I have had a AK 74N and my buddy has the 74UN for over 2 years stock now @1.5J running on 11.1V lipos flawlessly. Not the best trigger or the snappiest, but it is the most reliable AEG I have ever had my hands on. The mags are cheap aswell and the exterior finish is superb, no better AK for the money.
Any thoughts on the Secutor RAPAX as a DMR platform? Looks pretty solid and has the ability to lock it in semi auto right out of the box.
It's an Ares OEM. You can start looking for some info from there.
Its a ares gearbox...not bad, but needs some work done. I believe its the same one as in the hk 417
are there different versions?
al lot of players like the g&g and its over 400 fps
I started counting the number of times he says f*ck. this video was 21 times
what is the stock the back of that avengers sr25 ?
Would also be nice to see a clean and maintenance video of that avengers sr25 as there isn't one on youtube + I just bought one and want to see a disassemble
Same as an m4
So what SR25 do you recommend? Looking for a good one out of the box but willing to do some work, dont want to replace EVERYTHING tho
Cyma 098?
Brilliant
Luckily for me, I got my g&g gr25 spr (that's the one without the supressor) for free with a bipod and a scope.
Gonna get a new barrel, spring, and mosfet for mine
Just got one for myself too. Can't wait to test it and make the adjustments
wish you made this video 15 years ago or so i go this thing sounded awful stripped the bevel gear 2nd time i used it i didnt realize at the time it was a smaller gear box trying to find thing like the cylinder is awful my friend recomended this gun recomended i get a bore up for it he put it in he had to cut it to fit now its more inconsistante then ever just ordered the selector plate cause it fires full auto all together spent about 1000usd of it just to look at it for 15 years sitting in the corner i want to fix it is it possible to put the extended gear box in it and the shorter hop up?
Is it just this g & g that is bad. I spent £320 on a g & g tr16 mbr 556wh. Is it any good in your opinion as I thought it was quite snappy.
Totally agree with you when It comes to g&g they are better but not that much better :-)
I have the A&K SR-25 Carbine and love it. Although mine seems to have some troubles with it's Hop-Up
Have the same problem, used shorter barrel and macaron rubber just to make the "joule creep effect" balance the energy loss on hopup
@@Ak1M1223 oh, that's not what's happening on my gun. My hop up jusg doesnt work at all. No matter how I Set it I get zero hop
@laughnau cryl8tr yea, Well I cant legally change the barrel length without having it Marke again with is not really worth the hassel. Ill just have to see of it get better in warmer weather and if everything fails ill buy a new unit
I have the JG SR25.. I like it
Was wondering if you do work on stuff from the US? I'm sure shipping/costs would be high... But I'm still wondering if its possible.. Let me know and we can figure something out..✌
As someone who just used ar's and is now looking for there first dmr which brand would you say is best ? For a quality
Depends what you want platform wise no one brand is good at everything.
cyma would also be a good choice especially if u go with the new platinum line (cm.098 series)
Yeah, I've actually been eyeing the QBS SR-25 for a while now
@@skin_wizard pull the trigger awesome AEG.
I have the cm098 and it shoots nice, buy the nimh that comes with it doesn't work very well, i use a 7.4 lipo
I picked up the SR-25 QBS and it’s great, comes with a ported cylinder for some reason, and the stock nozzle isn’t great, thin plastic and no o ring, doesn’t seal very well, that being said it was still shooting .25s around 400, .3s 350 out of the box and the hop is it pretty good stock no problem lifting heavy BBs
@@xXCWALDROUPXx thank you. I had no idea about the cylinder being ported
I never thought I’d meet the Gordon Ramsey of airsoft
Quick question to anyone who knows this, can a ares sr25 hop up unit fit in a g&g sr25 as I've just bought some ares sr25 mags that fit my g&g sr25 but doesn't line up with hop up unit to feed, i got my g&g sr25 dirty cheap and wanted to play around with it to experiment on upgrading guns
I honestly want to know what SR25 rifle you would buy. Or rather think I should buy. I was thinking of getting the CYMA. I hope you read this and reply. I trust and really would like your opinion.
The cyma plat is hands down the best. I just got kne nad the etrnal quality is really good. The handguard was nicely finished. Good barel and buckinh will throw .4's and eith the correct barrelmlength, thebpower will creep a little bit. Als if evike did a kac sr25 with cyma id be down but of coursei dont see that happening and indont need another sr25. Of course you still wan a good nozzle and a perun but all that can wait.
Well highlight of the video is your adorable Geko, such a cutie. Hmm seems to be one of the old generation G&G 308. My brother plays a G&G MBR 308 SR for two years now. And there you don't have all that shit with the Hop-unit, but yea it's still just a V2 cylinder, but in his case with just 400mm inner barrel, that is no issue. The MBR series is not bad at all, you are just limited in barrel lenght when using heaver BB's like every regular V2 gearbox. Fitting a Maxx hop unit is also no problem with the MBR series, my brother runs a Maxx in it. Then we also have a G&G F2000, but well, still the best quality F2000 out there, G&G just makes good plastic. But i agree absolutely with you, for a real DMR build using a rifle with a fill 19 teeth Piston is necessary, no complains there.
here i am with an echo 1 wishing i had seen this video before my purchase lol.
is the Matrix sr25 good?
She's so cute
Are you sure it's not the worst, VFC do an sr25 also. But yes, I'd lean to something with a extended or 2.5 gearbox.
I'd love to see a "buyer's guide" of sorts
i want a classic army m110 but cant find one anywhere
I came to this after looking at the G&P SR15 URX does anyone know the performance difference
G&G GR25 is the worst I have encountered. Got one with crooked barrel years ago and it wasnt seen visually. After taking the outer barrel off, then understood that its crooked totally. Also when removing the handguard, the upper just disintegrated in my hands. When testing with m150 spring, the gb shell crapped out. I think I have video of it somewhere. I stay clear of these now :P
What's your opinion on that CYMA platinum?
Lower body is very weak but the gun is amazing value & quality
Yeah I have one myself ,for the price the performance is great.
What's the solution to the twangy g&g sound? Bearing spring guide? Shimming?
Guide, cylinder, piston, spring, head... the works.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech looks like I have a shopping list, thanks 😂
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people go for the G&G DMR because they believe its a good base platform to build on and its cheap. I almost bought one myself, but after holding it I didnt like it. It was just a gut feeling i got.
I agree g&g has always been on my shit list for internals, people give them so much praise for their etu's, then I show them my 5 year old ares amoeba which sounds better than their newest g&gs
Km15 sound is great so silent
I don't get the proprietary mag thing from G&G. They do it as well with their AKs. Literally all AK magazines are at least somewhat compatible, except G&G.
Also I can definitely confirm the cracking gearbox, I had a cracked gearbox with a pneumatic blowback gun. Rest of the internals were pretty decent though.
Really? I've used both KA and CYMA midcaps in my G&G AK-104 and they fit nicely, same story in my friends G&G AK. My LCT RPK was actually more picky with mags, CYMA mags would barely fit inside that idiot magwell, while they fit just fine in my G&G.
@@hakont.4960 Maybe it is dependent on the type of rifle. I have personally tested it with a friend who has a G&G RK EVO 103, which didn't fit CYMA (both unmodified and with a slightly sanded lip to fit an E&L) or E&L mags (not that the E&L mags matter anyways, since they are utter garbage).
@@tHaH4x0r That's odd, I guess your RK EVO 103 might be an older model? G&G has had some magazine fitment issues in the past, but they seem to have fixed it in later years.
@@hakont.4960 Could be, I am very curious to try a newer one then. From my experience G&G guns have pretty okay internals. Although currently I have an E&L with which I am more than happy with, it just weighs a shit ton.
@@tHaH4x0r I'm kinda biased in this matter, since I always upgrade and modify the internals of my AEG's. That's why I prefer G&G, they have better tolerances overall than other brands from what I've seen. I had a G&P M16, that thing had unacceptable tolerances externally, and even the grip sat at a wrong angle to the gearbox. Same story with my LCT, that thing was a nightmare to work on, too tight fitting parts and too many uneccessary screws. CYMA is on the other end of the scale, too loose fitting parts and overall crude construction.
My G&G AEG's are higher end G&G's though, their combat machines may have a bit more slack in the tolerances.
Normal sized cylinder in a 'DMR' platform is piss poor. I've never been particularly impressed G&G, just a shame a few guns are only made by them.
It's possible & does work, but not so well with that hop unit & nozzle...
@@NegativeAirsoftTech Yeah, but the premium they charge over DMR platforms that have the proper 2.5 gearbox is daft!
Normal cylinder is fine for barrels up to around 520mm (I haven't don't the volume ratios for a while). If you want to use .3+ rounds you're probably going to find the ratios unfavorable past 455mm.
Much love from cailfornia love the fuck out of your content keep it up man 🤟🏻💖
New Cyma AR10 variants are better than all of AEG sr25 replicas so far.
I thought about milling down a maxx model p90 air nozzle
Haven't tried the CYMA one yet?
Not yet
Does it sound like trash because of the shimming?
Does anybody know if a 2.5 Gearbox would fit into the G&G?
I don't think it does... I tried once but I can't recall if I needed to mod the casing etc.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech Thank you!
if you want a SR25 go Classic Army IMO the best
The E2s are nice, though.
I know what u mean with G&G I never liked them but I recently bought the ARP 556 and can honestly say it works really good isn't twangy and is consistent at 343 fps has decent range and accuracy for a gun with 120mm barrel shooting .30g the only thing that spun me is I extended the inner barrel to 220mm and put suppressor on it to try it out but it shoots 2 bbs at 345fps then 1 at 415 fps why is that lol
The bucking lip probably bent inwards each shot that's kinda common after installing a new barrel as the bucking can be off abit and it will do that. Just realine ut
can someone please clip the bit where he does the sound of a ARP9 and convert to mp3!
I can do that for you
what else can u do for us daddy 😩
G&G has some good series, just not the cheap ones.
have you ever worked on an arp 9 what is your opinion about them
Lots, over rated - without a gate titan, a drum mag & a complete overhaul inside it's terrible.
It's noisy, slow, fussy, stick hicap mags don't feed more than a few rounds without a lot of winding & the mosfet/etu is garbage.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech yeah most of the people i know end up overhauling them or dropping hpa into them
first love your videos
Bugger I just bought one for £150 I’m after range more than anything else but I’m hoping that if doesn’t work how I want I can sell it for around the same and get a cyma
You should take a lot at the new g&g .308 mbr’s
what about external quality though? I think most people are buying guns in general for the external quality.
More pets pls :)
I got a classic army m110 that has the 2.5 gear box
274 with .25s if good for over here on the island or Ireland but not for the mainland
I find the CYMA platinum m4 to actually be a really good gun. It’s even better with a Titan lol