"Why would a dragon hoard gold? 'Cos a dragon represents everything you're afraid of. What's embedded in everything that you're afraid of? Absolutely everything that you need to find. Run from what your're afraid of? Run from exactly what you need to find." This quote really hit me hard. I need to confront and defeat my dragons if I'm to establish the meaningful, successful life that I desire. It won't be easy, but it'll be worth it. Thank you, Dr. Peterson.
From a wreck to a person who's supporting themselves and their family, mentally, physically and financially. I think that's coming a far way from how it was three years ago. Thanks, JP. :)
@@aWomanFreed Overcame a chronic addiction and feelings of suicide, got myself a secure job, made some life-long friends and found myself a wonderful partner. Still have a long way to go until the life I desire is seen to its absolute end, but I've made considerable progress mentally and circumstantially since I made my original comment. Rewatching this since my partner has taken an early interest in Peterson. :)
Dawid Naude if you haven't watched the biblical series watch it, it's kinda long 25h+ Whit q&a. It helps you understand the foundation of the western world.
there is an ancient beer recipe that includes a bit of wine recently excavated in a Persian king's tomb. i believe jordan b peterson is that beer. and yes, they sell it now as "midas touch"
@@Io-Io-Io Calm down. It's not about replacing our father with Dr. Peterson because of family issues. There's absolutely nothing to do with that. It's all about seeing him as a positive Masculine Role Model. You must also have men that you admire, that FEEL like a father to you in a spiritual level. Got it?
@@Io-Io-Io What Veni said - and then some. Not everyone so much as knows their fathers as you've assumed, and many of us have truly irreparable relationships with our fathers (victims of severe abuse, incest, etc - because we do exist, and there are more of us than most good people would care to imagine). We all need strong male role models, particularly those of us who never had such an important figure in our formative years. We're not literally sitting here imagining that he's our dad, you're the one with the twisted conclusions.
@@Io-Io-Io You saying that the op is wrong for engaging in the healthy and normal act of choosing role models to supplement masculine influence, and then insulting all involved about it, is threatening. So, your lash-out disguised as a question about why Gir feels threatened actually shows yours is the behavior coming from a threat response. Your assumption that they feel threatened is an obvious attempt to invalidate the motivation behind their comment to anyone else who might read it - an attempt to cover up that you know you're wrong - which people do when they feel threatened (: If you weren't talking about role models, then why did you jump in? Op said "...feels like a father..." which is exactly how a role model who isn't your father should feel? Obviously, I'm a little tired of people like you and I'm taking it out on you. Like you did with us (:
He often says that he rewrote every sentence in Maps of meaning like 50 times. He also likes to say that writing is formalized thinking and also that. He centers his speech around the goal of telling the truth in a pragmatic manner and he was a teacher, and a therapist. No wonder he got good at talking to people.
I ran across you by accident and decided to give your lecture a listen. I have always had trouble facing problems in life because I was/am to scared of the outcome...always putting things off instead of just facing my fears. But you are right... if I continue to cast a blind eye to the troubling aspects of my life they will go from being minor to a major issue. So I'm going to slay the dragon before it gets to big to control it! And I will most likely watch this lecture several times more when I deem it necessary to remind me why its important to face my problems and conquer! I absolutely enjoyed this video...thank you Dr. Peterson!
Linda Irene Hey check out David Foster Wallace's speech "This is Water"...super motivating and a great part of my quest for meaning...Take Care!!!!!!!! :)
If it so happens that the dragon got to big. It helps if you cut it into pieces and slay those pieces one by one: ie if the problem is too big, devide it into smaller steps you can take more easily. And don't forget to rewards yourself when you have won a battle. Positive reinforcement! I treat myself to my favorite drink everytime I stook a step and I'm now somewhere between the goal I'm working towards and the chaos I came from by simply taking one step at a time. I hope you succeed in slaying your dragons!
Linda Irene Hi Linda. He is good isn't he - in the purist sense of the word 'good.' You would like (though I presume by now you've probably seen them) Peterson's lectures on the psychological analysis of the Biblical stories. Fascinating stuff. What he says on potentiality and moving forward towards a transcendent ideal seem to echo our current understanding of quantum field theory: the Universe requires consciousness as an integral feature of what we might call existential 'reality'. Even though - evidentially - nothing 'out there' actually 'exists' !
Daniel Plainview What the spider has that you need from it is the courage to face it. It's like the person who was afraid of elevators, they didn't need to be able to use elevators, they needed the courage to do the things they needed to do but were to afraid to do them.
It's an evolution consideration. We have the instructions to act in a certain way ingrained in us even more deeply than consciousness. If the instructions were bad, all with the instinct to act them out would have died off and the instinct with them. But the instinct is still here - that proves it's an asset to survival and success in this world, not a detriment.
Another way to put it, I hope correctly, is that a conscious knowledge of our material reality is not sufficient to explain our behavior, our experiences, our nature and any meaningful purpose we might find within the world. The "world of objects" is a dead and incomplete reduction of reality.
my thoughts after just watching now, months after your question are as follows: people tend to write down into stories their wisdom and shared experiences in one form or another. otherwise you'd have a boring shopping list (and don't get me wrong, lists and data do exist in plenty) but a boring shopping list of data makes for a horrible story. so the lesson and shared wisdom in this children's book (and i presume written by an adult, correct me if i'm wrong) is to not ignore what a dragon represents, the unexpected. wisdom by it's very nature is knowledge through your own experiences rather than data gathered and transferred towards others. the moral and excitement of this story comes from gathering your own data, testing out your own limits, and to be very very very wary of ignoring the things you find yourself ignorant to.
Im convinced that Jordan is one of the smartest and most insightful people of our time. In just an hour, he can shine light on human truths that can change ones outlook for a lifetime. Another incredible lecture! God bless you Jordan!
On one hand I'm thrilled that people like this exist who are both brilliant and compassionate, on the other hand I'm disappointed that it's so rare that a person like this gets the recognition and power to influence they deserve. Imagine this man being the thinking cap behind the political sphere in our times. Oh the places we'd go.
Zedi if more of us slay our dragons then JBP WILL HAVE THE INFLUENCE THAT HE DESERVES. it's amazing what can be accomplished if you don't mind who gets the credit.
...according precisely with what JPsays here: Where we go doesnt depend on the personal qualities of the people in power but in every individual taking responsibility for his/her own actions. Like Solzhenitsin did. So dont worry about JP being recognized. It doesnt matter. Just attend to the core of the message and everything would be all right.
I’ve allowed dragons to take over my life and thoughts too for decades. Now it is PAST time to go and kill the beasts. It is time we take our glory back!
For the first time in my life I had to pause a UA-cam video just to have the time to reflect on what's being sad. The thought about combat with the unknown goes deep. That says something good about what UA-cam is becoming thanks to the people like mr. Peterson. I'm glad.
The best therapist yet. When the student is ready the teacher appears, I'm 71 and finally got that dragon to sit still and converse she has been too vulnerable for too many years. Thank you Dr Petersen
@@raewynurwin4256 "When the student is ready the teacher appears",.. used this phrase 10yrs ago and translated into Filipino so i can share with my friends
It took me something like 8 years to figure out that there was a dragon disturbing my life. For eight years I had dreams about someone from (what I thought) was my past. Nightmares two or three times a week, sometimes more often. Anger became my daily routine, sadness too. I lived in a fear that I might meet that person one day. I was hiding and trying not to get any information about her. Eight long years. Then I came across JBP and once he stated: if there are memories longer than 18 months that still make you cry, you need to go back and slay the dragon. So I decided to meet her face to face. She agreed and we talked for five hours. Coming back home I felt relief and peace. Now it's way, way better. The dragon is gone, sadness, fear as well. If only I knew it long time ago my life would be much better.
I watched all these videos before going to work in Mexico city as an immigration attorney, shortly after graduation. I did not know it was so damn literal and did not get it at that time as I do now. I am in the middle of a fantastic but realistic journey and these videos and books related to such topics became a useful source. Thank you Mr. Peterson, you are a remarkable man of our time.
I have been binge watching your lectures for a few weeks now - rather listen most of the time since I am doing this while working. Very enlightening and fascinating! (A lot of things kind of fall in place :-) Thank you!
Mitch Wilkins Yeah. I've uncovered quite a few dragons on my own. I've realized that my materialistic way of life has been set up for me by my parents. Also, the problem I've been avoiding by staying at their house for so long: I stay for stability even though I'm miserable here. I can't ignore it any longer. My previous goals were based on going to college and getting a good paying career in something I am only mildly interested in. Now I am working towards moving out and adventuring, not going to live the way my father does, making himself miserable by doing all he can to get a big house to put more things in it and getting taken advantage of by his "good" job and his overrated work ethic (I think work ethic can be too much if it's fatally affecting your health). Or doing things like marrying a psycho bitch that you hate just so you can have the status of being married. I am trying to detach from those types of things. I'm trying to look closely at not only my own life, but those around me for the dragons. It is leading me in a good direction. I now feel like I have a mission and a purpose for living, at least more than "get good job, live comfortably". I honestly don't think that the good job would make me comfortable anyways. The chairs suck.
Im watching this in 2020 and i didnt chuckle as much. U can rent videos still on google play store and vudu and even cable television. Its digital but its still a rental.....
Probably younger than I am now there and I'm still on the edge of my seat capturing the most valuable information I'll ever need (never stop learning even when you are 48 learning never really stops learn something new every day)
Now you’re 50 and I hope you are still learning! I love to learning and getting mind blown by a brilliant lecture or podcast.I’m 50 also. I blew off really trying to learn in school and didn’t finish college. Gotta make up for the years I wasted knowledge and education.😂
When I thought about the statement, "Children don't like disorder, because their realm of competence is very limited," an instantaneous objection was: "But kids make messes all the time, and don't clean them up!" But then I remembered that when I was a kid, the mess was things exactly how I left them. I remember being a little confused when my parents asked me to clean up the lego and the discarded clothes, "Where else would they go?" The mess was what I knew. It was its own sort of order.
I first watched this and all of his lectures in the fall of 2016. Now revisiting it I am even more convinced that people who think that Jordan Peterson is a problem are absolutely insane.
I had a dream once where there was a giant golden shimmering snake. Though it was beautiful it was mindless. Just raw power. In the dream, God showed up and said "if you don't learn how to work with the snake and use it, it will kill you" I shrugged it off as a nightmare but this lecture is making me think maybe there was something to it.
_I will not conceal his limbs, his mighty power, or his graceful proportions._ _Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?_ _His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal;_ _One is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted._ _His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out._ _Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth._ _Strength dwells in his neck, and sorrow dances before him. When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid; because of his crashings they are beside themselves._ _Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood._ _He makes the deep boil like a pot; he makes the sea like a pot of ointment. He leaves a shining wake behind him; one would think the deep had white hair._ _On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear. He beholds every high thing; he is king over all the children of pride._ *- Job **41:12**-34*
That's similar to a passage from the Bible involving Moses: "Then the LORD said to him, "Reach out your hand and take it by the tail." So Moses reached out and took hold of the snake and it turned back into a staff in his hand." ~ Exodus 4:4
I had a dream where everything was black except for an enormous nearly-black dark grey serpent that took up the entire sea. It was both in the sea and it was the sea. There was a small man made of light that was riding on the coils of the serpent successfully. The man was like Jesus but it was me also. Then years later I found Jordan's material and was able to interpret it.
Found Jordans lectures yesterday and listened to them 2 hrs before bed, and then couldn't sleep all night with a horrible headache. It did however kill my dreaming phase and get me thinking about my future for the first time. The dragon story is just stupidly simple and oh so accurate.
This is, lowkey, his best lecture. Other lectures have millions of views, and deservedly so. But this one so concisely demonstrates his most important insights, that it should have 1 billion views. Part of the power of this lecture is that it's mediated using a children's story. The mark of a great story, is how much wisdom it contains. Peterson's commentary along the way, is just magnificent. I can go back to this lecture a hundred times.
This video should have at least 3 million views. The fact that it doesn't speaks loud and clear about a world that is afraid of looking at their problems.
This is very fascinating: after years of listening to JP and loving everything he says, here's a snapshot from the past: he looks a lot younger but he's absolutely himself
Amazing to see how clear it is that back then Jordan was forming his theories and methods for the use of story telling in his applied practice so concretely. This video here really helps us understand why Jordan Peterson uses story as a natural means to transmit his knowledge into us
This is genuinely just wild. It's like there is this whole world (a metaphysical world) that most of us, and certainly myself, were completely unaware of. It's crazy
every time i hear you teaching, it's mind blowing, absolutely amazing. thanks for recordings all this lecture, i would never be able to access this quality of teaching because of my financial conditions and other factors. You very beautiful to see how much you care about democratization of knoledge. That's something i will be forever grateful for. You are really showing the world what equality of opportunity really means.
This lecture helped me a great deal conceptualizing how to work with clients who see themselves as fully conscious of their motivations. we need to resurrect the notion of the shadow and the dragon, chaos, etc. Your lectures assist so well with this. If we lose the idea we only see ourselves in part, we get a little too cocky - common in the materialist culture. Thanks so much! You are my lifeline right now - these lectures are reawakening old useful ideas that were once so foundational for me, but seem to have vanished from the culture in recent years.
Everytime in a while I come here to watch and listen carefully tothis speech. Is my 5th time already, everytime is different and I learn something new, is incredible.
To think about the grind this guy put himself through back then with his career and family… So that in 2014-2017 people all over the world love him and his work.
Dr. Peterson, you have helped me understand myself and the world around me more in the past 2 years than I have understood in my whole life. I deeply thank you for that. We all do.
I want to meet Jordan Peterson one day. Reading his book and listening to his lectures changed the path of my life and quite possibly saved me from a mid life crisis by changing that path.
I found JP because I value freedom. I stayed because he's perhaps the only person I've ever known who has genuinley influenced my life for the better, or rather given me the tools to do so
Jordan may just be the modern-day archetype of an educated man, for a genuine education should not be an academic exercise perse, but a venture with real-world implications for action. He has been saying the same thing for almost 4 decades; we expect people who repeat themselves to be boring, but Jordan isn't human like the rest of us. This video summarises the central idea of his works.
Dr. Peterson I would suggest you look up the recent horror hit The Babadook. The reason that movie has been such a hit at such a primal level in so many audiences is because it was a horrifying retelling of the Billy and the Dragon story imo. You'd love it.
This is such a great talk. I've been fishing around these videos for a while and have found them vastly interesting. I thoroughly enjoyed how the dragon tale was linked with each example in this video. Jordan Peterson is master of articulation and makes it so easy to understand these challenging concepts.
At around 54:20, Peterson talks about getting a piece of the dragon and using it for good purpose. I think this is profoundly true, and the same has been said by none other than CS Lewis at the end of "A Pilgrim's Regress": ‘Behemoth is my serving man! Before the conquered hosts of Pan Riding tamed Leviathan, Loud I sing for well I can RESVRGAM and IO PAEAN, IO, IO, IO, PAEAN!! ‘Now I know the stake I played for, Now I know what a worm’s made for!’ -A Pilgrim's Regress, CS Lewis. Sung by Vertue after slaying the dragon of passion. But not before dragon lit Vertue's rigidity, transforming leaden and dead cold-letter abiding rule into vitality, and thereby perfecting it.
Because hes speaking in contemporary terms. I have the same problems with plato. I can read it obviously but i understand the material much better when i translate what i think hes trying to say in contemporary terms. I have a journal just for that which is what petersen said he had for Jung when he was first studying
I still have a vivid memory of a nightmare I used to have... I was about 5, of an actual dragon on this sort of circular island surrounded by cliffs with no where to go. I remember several weird nightmares, one with aliens, one with someone chasing me down. These all repeated enough to remember vividly. I'm 30 now, I haven't had a nightmare since I was probably 16. On a rare occasion I'll have a weird dream of zombies, or people trying to kill me except every time I'm calm and unafraid, or at least not thinking about the fear because I need to focus on survival and the task at hand, and I destroy whatever is trying to destroy me, even when completely out numbered. And I wake up refreshed lol, another night of kicking ass.
That's because you grew up and became dangerous yourself. People tend to confuse innocence with virtue, but _real_ virtue is having power and still choosing to make things better. We face our fears by internalizing them, to a certain extent - claiming a piece of the dragons we slay, so to speak.
my friend turned me onto your.... well, lectures and books and psychology... him knowing my fondness for the subject of life and mentality and it was probably to catch me as I fall through life, as he knows what it's like to fall. I listen, and absorb... but I process it too, to find what will save me. Sometimes, that does include falling. And it's comforting that as I feel and think these things, I don't feel bad about it.
This is priceless to me(or 'for' me?). Sorry for my poor english. I can easily identify with Billy. The difference is that Billy said it out loud: there is a dragon. I've never reached that point when I was a kid. Silence was the safest option for me and my siblings. Well, good for Billy that it ends pretty well:)
Once he said,”when you go to the video store...” I realize how much I miss being out and interacting with people and also kinda miss going out and picking out videos...ah the simple things😪
"Why would a dragon hoard gold? 'Cos a dragon represents everything you're afraid of. What's embedded in everything that you're afraid of? Absolutely everything that you need to find. Run from what your're afraid of? Run from exactly what you need to find."
This quote really hit me hard. I need to confront and defeat my dragons if I'm to establish the meaningful, successful life that I desire. It won't be easy, but it'll be worth it.
Thank you, Dr. Peterson.
Spot on.
Absolutely right
From a wreck to a person who's supporting themselves and their family, mentally, physically and financially. I think that's coming a far way from how it was three years ago. Thanks, JP. :)
@@aWomanFreed he's dead.. dragon ate him..
@@aWomanFreed Overcame a chronic addiction and feelings of suicide, got myself a secure job, made some life-long friends and found myself a wonderful partner. Still have a long way to go until the life I desire is seen to its absolute end, but I've made considerable progress mentally and circumstantially since I made my original comment.
Rewatching this since my partner has taken an early interest in Peterson. :)
He is so Jung there!
🤣😂
yuval yehezkel haha
This pun is 10/10
fantastic!
Didn't expect to read a good joke in this comment section but you got me
I've watched so many hours of Peterson, and this is the most compact, concise lecture so far. Absolutely invaluable.
BrokenSocialCompact what are the other ones you recommend?
Dawid Naude if you haven't watched the biblical series watch it, it's kinda long 25h+ Whit q&a. It helps you understand the foundation of the western world.
Corey P every time I watch a JP lecture I’m like “that might be his best talk.” But then it happens again..
@Corey P: You said it better than I could have expressed it, what I felt after this video. Thanks!
@@dnozzie one of my favourite is the one called Tragedy vs Evil
This isnt normally how psychology doctorates/lecturer/speakers talk. He has an amazing mind, well informed science mixed with poetry.
Back in 2002 Jordan Peterson was a refreshing beer and today he's a fine wine.
Nice
Could've agree more
there is an ancient beer recipe that includes a bit of wine recently excavated in a Persian king's tomb. i believe jordan b peterson is that beer. and yes, they sell it now as "midas touch"
Benni B send me a bottle bro
That's why he's still here...
My dragon is currently beating the shit out of me but at least I am now aware of it, thank you.
RGTGAME the first step is being aware
How do you identify your dragons? What’s the definition of a dragon?
@@jameslincs u know your dragons
Hell yeah brother.
@@skyleonidas9270 ive employed them through salvinorin before and they're very hard workers, gave them a good yelp review.
weird he still feels like a father to me even when he was young! ❤️
To me too ☀️
@@Io-Io-Io Calm down. It's not about replacing our father with Dr. Peterson because of family issues. There's absolutely nothing to do with that. It's all about seeing him as a positive Masculine Role Model. You must also have men that you admire, that FEEL like a father to you in a spiritual level. Got it?
@@Io-Io-Io What Veni said - and then some. Not everyone so much as knows their fathers as you've assumed, and many of us have truly irreparable relationships with our fathers (victims of severe abuse, incest, etc - because we do exist, and there are more of us than most good people would care to imagine). We all need strong male role models, particularly those of us who never had such an important figure in our formative years. We're not literally sitting here imagining that he's our dad, you're the one with the twisted conclusions.
@@Io-Io-Io You saying that the op is wrong for engaging in the healthy and normal act of choosing role models to supplement masculine influence, and then insulting all involved about it, is threatening. So, your lash-out disguised as a question about why Gir feels threatened actually shows yours is the behavior coming from a threat response. Your assumption that they feel threatened is an obvious attempt to invalidate the motivation behind their comment to anyone else who might read it - an attempt to cover up that you know you're wrong - which people do when they feel threatened (: If you weren't talking about role models, then why did you jump in? Op said "...feels like a father..." which is exactly how a role model who isn't your father should feel? Obviously, I'm a little tired of people like you and I'm taking it out on you. Like you did with us (:
@@tadastalalas lol. OP is a dummy.
I feel like every sentence is a cliff hanger to the next, each word feels carefully selected to express MOST meaning. Amazing, thank you.
He often says that he rewrote every sentence in Maps of meaning like 50 times. He also likes to say that writing is formalized thinking and also that. He centers his speech around the goal of telling the truth in a pragmatic manner and he was a teacher, and a therapist. No wonder he got good at talking to people.
I think today he's like Four Loko.
Holy cow it's vintage JP
No. This is young and fresh JP.
What you see now is vintage JP. :-)
Thats a rare JP indeed
Like a fine wine, he ages well.
Silvester Humaj 2002 is vintage? God help me
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Roman King haha ikr
His delivery is amazing! All circuits are connected....
He's Jordan number 5
I ran across you by accident and decided to give your lecture a listen. I have always had trouble facing problems in life because I was/am to scared of the outcome...always putting things off instead of just facing my fears. But you are right... if I continue to cast a blind eye to the troubling aspects of my life they will go from being minor to a major issue. So I'm going to slay the dragon before it gets to big to control it! And I will most likely watch this lecture several times more when I deem it necessary to remind me why its important to face my problems and conquer! I absolutely enjoyed this video...thank you Dr. Peterson!
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Linda Irene Hey check out David Foster Wallace's speech "This is Water"...super motivating and a great part of my quest for meaning...Take Care!!!!!!!! :)
Paul Froelich I will check that out! Thank you!
If it so happens that the dragon got to big. It helps if you cut it into pieces and slay those pieces one by one: ie if the problem is too big, devide it into smaller steps you can take more easily. And don't forget to rewards yourself when you have won a battle. Positive reinforcement! I treat myself to my favorite drink everytime I stook a step and I'm now somewhere between the goal I'm working towards and the chaos I came from by simply taking one step at a time.
I hope you succeed in slaying your dragons!
Linda Irene Hi Linda. He is good isn't he - in the purist sense of the word 'good.' You would like (though I presume by now you've probably seen them) Peterson's lectures on the psychological analysis of the Biblical stories. Fascinating stuff. What he says on potentiality and moving forward towards a transcendent ideal seem to echo our current understanding of quantum field theory: the Universe requires consciousness as an integral feature of what we might call existential 'reality'. Even though - evidentially - nothing 'out there' actually 'exists' !
22:40 "I am not sure... but I guess he just wanted to be noticed". I am a school teacher, and I want this storybook in my classroom
😁
Have you gotten it yet?
That sentence gave me goosebumps.
This video is a summary of all JP's maps of meaning, 12 rules for life and his entire POV. What a man to contend with
"Why would a dragon hoard gold?
What's embedded in everything that you're afraid of?
Absolutely everything you need to find."
...Tears...
I felt exactly alike at that moment! I was just "wow". I came here over and over just to relisten that phrase. Soo deeply touching
Geronimo Tondato can you explain the phrase for me?
I’m scared of spiders. What do I need? Cobwebs?
Skelter But it doesn’t offer any insight from which anything can be derived
Daniel Plainview What the spider has that you need from it is the courage to face it. It's like the person who was afraid of elevators, they didn't need to be able to use elevators, they needed the courage to do the things they needed to do but were to afraid to do them.
"If that information isn't true. How did it get there?"
Mind blown.
John Ny im still trying figure out what he meant by that statement.. ur thoughts?
Hmm that makes sense thanx for clearing that up
It's an evolution consideration.
We have the instructions to act in a certain way ingrained in us even more deeply than consciousness. If the instructions were bad, all with the instinct to act them out would have died off and the instinct with them.
But the instinct is still here - that proves it's an asset to survival and success in this world, not a detriment.
Another way to put it, I hope correctly, is that a conscious knowledge of our material reality is not sufficient to explain our behavior, our experiences, our nature and any meaningful purpose we might find within the world. The "world of objects" is a dead and incomplete reduction of reality.
my thoughts after just watching now, months after your question are as follows: people tend to write down into stories their wisdom and shared experiences in one form or another. otherwise you'd have a boring shopping list (and don't get me wrong, lists and data do exist in plenty) but a boring shopping list of data makes for a horrible story. so the lesson and shared wisdom in this children's book (and i presume written by an adult, correct me if i'm wrong) is to not ignore what a dragon represents, the unexpected. wisdom by it's very nature is knowledge through your own experiences rather than data gathered and transferred towards others. the moral and excitement of this story comes from gathering your own data, testing out your own limits, and to be very very very wary of ignoring the things you find yourself ignorant to.
Im convinced that Jordan is one of the smartest and most insightful people of our time. In just an hour, he can shine light on human truths that can change ones outlook for a lifetime. Another incredible lecture! God bless you Jordan!
This is, by far, the most amazing lecture I've ever encountered in the 21st century.
On one hand I'm thrilled that people like this exist who are both brilliant and compassionate, on the other hand I'm disappointed that it's so rare that a person like this gets the recognition and power to influence they deserve. Imagine this man being the thinking cap behind the political sphere in our times. Oh the places we'd go.
Zedi if more of us slay our dragons then JBP WILL HAVE THE INFLUENCE THAT HE DESERVES.
it's amazing what can be accomplished if you don't mind who gets the credit.
well, things have changed in the last 2 years now haven't they Zedi?
@@downeybill they have
...according precisely with what JPsays here: Where we go doesnt depend on the personal qualities of the people in power but in every individual taking responsibility for his/her own actions. Like Solzhenitsin did. So dont worry about JP being recognized. It doesnt matter. Just attend to the core of the message and everything would be all right.
Jordan Peterson was a Harvard professor and served on the UN
My God, you did it.. you speak such truth in the most intellectual, yet entertaining manner. I could listen to you talk for hours.
Clean your dragon, slay your room
sounds about right but what about my lobster
SwimmingInSauce boil it alive, letting your Shadow in
Keep your lobster in a tank and feed it bacon bits.
SwimmingInSauce Pin its shoulders back.
Rokuro1 Clean your your, slay room dragon.
We need this remastered.
We need this by the Jordan today.
I just realized he is teaching to people much older than him, that's amazing ! The amount of maturity and hindsight this man has on life is admirable.
After listening to countless of his current lectures, I just stumbled onto this old gem. Classic Peterson.
And 18 years later, it's still a great lecture.
I feel as though I've been slapped in the face. I've spent so much time worrying about others around me, I've let dragons take over my life.
If you were in my room at the moment I'd slap you happily
I’ve allowed dragons to take over my life and thoughts too for decades. Now it is PAST time to go and kill the beasts. It is time we take our glory back!
You know it´s about to get old school when JP breaks out the overhead. Really enjoyed the lecture. This is super fascinating to me.
God... This was an amazing lecture. Thank you so much for this Professor. I needed to hear this.
What an interesting talk this was. Full hour just whizzed past like nothing.
Its good to see an audience of elderly here. Much respect to those who invest in learning and pushing themselves.
For the first time in my life I had to pause a UA-cam video just to have the time to reflect on what's being sad. The thought about combat with the unknown goes deep. That says something good about what UA-cam is becoming thanks to the people like mr. Peterson. I'm glad.
The best therapist yet. When the student is ready the teacher appears, I'm 71 and finally got that dragon to sit still and converse she has been too vulnerable for too many years. Thank you Dr Petersen
@@raewynurwin4256 "When the student is ready the teacher appears",.. used this phrase 10yrs ago and translated into Filipino so i can share with my friends
It took me something like 8 years to figure out that there was a dragon disturbing my life. For eight years I had dreams about someone from (what I thought) was my past. Nightmares two or three times a week, sometimes more often. Anger became my daily routine, sadness too. I lived in a fear that I might meet that person one day. I was hiding and trying not to get any information about her. Eight long years. Then I came across JBP and once he stated: if there are memories longer than 18 months that still make you cry, you need to go back and slay the dragon. So I decided to meet her face to face. She agreed and we talked for five hours. Coming back home I felt relief and peace. Now it's way, way better. The dragon is gone, sadness, fear as well. If only I knew it long time ago my life would be much better.
it happened to me, I forgive my father for what he done. I am peace now
I learned more from this man than school, work or life. He has helped me tremendously!
I'm just a lobster that cleans his room and slays dragons.
Best comment ever!.🙂
That should be a song title
GOD!!!! THis Has GOT to be THE MOST FASCINATING PETERSON LECTURE OF THEM ALL! PETERSON IS SOCRATES REINCARNATE!!!!
“Run from what you’re afraid of, run from exactly what you need to find.” JP!!!!
I watched all these videos before going to work in Mexico city as an immigration attorney, shortly after graduation. I did not know it was so damn literal and did not get it at that time as I do now. I am in the middle of a fantastic but realistic journey and these videos and books related to such topics became a useful source. Thank you Mr. Peterson, you are a remarkable man of our time.
I have been binge watching your lectures for a few weeks now - rather listen most of the time since I am doing this while working. Very enlightening and fascinating! (A lot of things kind of fall in place :-)
Thank you!
@@skyleonidas9270 maybe, maybe not
One of the best things I've ever watched. I can see this being life changing for me.
Fish20 SlothCity has it been?
Mitch Wilkins Yeah. I've uncovered quite a few dragons on my own. I've realized that my materialistic way of life has been set up for me by my parents. Also, the problem I've been avoiding by staying at their house for so long: I stay for stability even though I'm miserable here. I can't ignore it any longer. My previous goals were based on going to college and getting a good paying career in something I am only mildly interested in. Now I am working towards moving out and adventuring, not going to live the way my father does, making himself miserable by doing all he can to get a big house to put more things in it and getting taken advantage of by his "good" job and his overrated work ethic (I think work ethic can be too much if it's fatally affecting your health). Or doing things like marrying a psycho bitch that you hate just so you can have the status of being married. I am trying to detach from those types of things. I'm trying to look closely at not only my own life, but those around me for the dragons. It is leading me in a good direction. I now feel like I have a mission and a purpose for living, at least more than "get good job, live comfortably". I honestly don't think that the good job would make me comfortable anyways. The chairs suck.
Jacob F how are things today, friend?
I love him dearly; he has no idea who I am yet he’s helped me understand and come to terms with life-multi dimensionally....
This is my favorite old lesson from Dr. Peterson. There is so much thought provoking knowledge here it’s worth not one, but many listens.
I'm watching in July of 2017 and it made me chuckle to hear Peterson say, "video rental".
Im watching this in 2020 and i didnt chuckle as much. U can rent videos still on google play store and vudu and even cable television. Its digital but its still a rental.....
Powerful Jordan Peterson
Probably younger than I am now there and I'm still on the edge of my seat capturing the most valuable information I'll ever need (never stop learning even when you are 48 learning never really stops learn something new every day)
Now you’re 50 and I hope you are still learning! I love to learning and getting mind blown by a brilliant lecture or podcast.I’m 50 also. I blew off really trying to learn in school and didn’t finish college. Gotta make up for the years I wasted knowledge and education.😂
After 54:33 is such a powerful and inspiring summary. God damn this guy is badass.
This man speaks hard yet simple truths, we ourselves know but have to rediscover due to our own ignorance of the world.
When I thought about the statement, "Children don't like disorder, because their realm of competence is very limited," an instantaneous objection was: "But kids make messes all the time, and don't clean them up!"
But then I remembered that when I was a kid, the mess was things exactly how I left them. I remember being a little confused when my parents asked me to clean up the lego and the discarded clothes, "Where else would they go?" The mess was what I knew. It was its own sort of order.
I tried convincing my parents for years (especially the teenage years) that my room was organized chaos 🙂
I first watched this and all of his lectures in the fall of 2016. Now revisiting it I am even more convinced that people who think that Jordan Peterson is a problem are absolutely insane.
I had a dream once where there was a giant golden shimmering snake. Though it was beautiful it was mindless. Just raw power. In the dream, God showed up and said "if you don't learn how to work with the snake and use it, it will kill you" I shrugged it off as a nightmare but this lecture is making me think maybe there was something to it.
Wow that's an unbelievably wise dream.
_I will not conceal his limbs, his mighty power, or his graceful proportions._
_Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?_
_His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal;_
_One is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted._
_His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out._
_Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth._
_Strength dwells in his neck, and sorrow dances before him. When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid; because of his crashings they are beside themselves._
_Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood._
_He makes the deep boil like a pot; he makes the sea like a pot of ointment. He leaves a shining wake behind him; one would think the deep had white hair._
_On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear. He beholds every high thing; he is king over all the children of pride._
*- Job **41:12**-34*
WHAT THE FUCK I had the same dream about 2 years ago.... almost exactly oh my god, message me! I gotta make a blog post about it haha
That's similar to a passage from the Bible involving Moses:
"Then the LORD said to him, "Reach out your hand and take it by the tail." So Moses reached out and took hold of the snake and it turned back into a staff in his hand." ~ Exodus 4:4
I had a dream where everything was black except for an enormous nearly-black dark grey serpent that took up the entire sea. It was both in the sea and it was the sea. There was a small man made of light that was riding on the coils of the serpent successfully. The man was like Jesus but it was me also. Then years later I found Jordan's material and was able to interpret it.
Found Jordans lectures yesterday and listened to them 2 hrs before bed, and then couldn't sleep all night with a horrible headache. It did however kill my dreaming phase and get me thinking about my future for the first time. The dragon story is just stupidly simple and oh so accurate.
This is, lowkey, his best lecture. Other lectures have millions of views, and deservedly so. But this one so concisely demonstrates his most important insights, that it should have 1 billion views. Part of the power of this lecture is that it's mediated using a children's story. The mark of a great story, is how much wisdom it contains. Peterson's commentary along the way, is just magnificent. I can go back to this lecture a hundred times.
Agoraphobia appears to be a special case of PTSD. One progressively faces the shock by making sense of it and feeling it.
Thankful for this insight.
This video should have at least 3 million views. The fact that it doesn't speaks loud and clear about a world that is afraid of looking at their problems.
Or one where the algorithm so strongly controls what we watch that you need to go looking for it
This is very fascinating: after years of listening to JP and loving everything he says, here's a snapshot from the past: he looks a lot younger but he's absolutely himself
Amazing to see how clear it is that back then Jordan was forming his theories and methods for the use of story telling in his applied practice so concretely. This video here really helps us understand why Jordan Peterson uses story as a natural means to transmit his knowledge into us
I'd like to thank Dr Peterson for being there,and myself for listening.Truly epic,and life saving.🙏
This is genuinely just wild. It's like there is this whole world (a metaphysical world) that most of us, and certainly myself, were completely unaware of. It's crazy
I'm back here again after 2 years. I love this
RULE 13 / Pet your dragon so it doesn't grow too large (and carry your house away)
genius, thank you!
Love this!
Pet my dragon and it gets really big!
Why Rule 13? It's already rule 10.
@@gregr1154 I actually have no idea. This is from 2 years ago lol
I watched Full House as a kid and yet had no clue Danny was this smart. Absolutely Brilliant!
The first time I encountered this video I was glued. Watched the whole thing in my car. Incredible to this day.
'When the dragon awoke he was hungry' , I shivered to my very core.
Its so deep and profound that i have decided to listen it one more time after few days.
Thank you so much for putting this jem on this platform!😊
His audience got younger as he got older lol. Great lecture Professor.
C.S. Lewis: "Some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again"
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2002? It looks like it was filmed in 1985.
Mike Walling I had no idea this wasn't from the 80s until I read this comment holy cow
Those are Canadian years.
I had overhead projectors in elementary school (in Canada) which was mid-80s. You may be right overall, though.
Nope, went to college in 2002 and had exact projectors in classes
Jared Newton LOL the 80's didn't catch up to Canada until the Y2K Bug catastrophe
every time i hear you teaching, it's mind blowing, absolutely amazing. thanks for recordings all this lecture, i would never be able to access this quality of teaching because of my financial conditions and other factors. You very beautiful to see how much you care about democratization of knoledge.
That's something i will be forever grateful for.
You are really showing the world what equality of opportunity really means.
This lecture helped me a great deal conceptualizing how to work with clients who see themselves as fully conscious of their motivations. we need to resurrect the notion of the shadow and the dragon, chaos, etc. Your lectures assist so well with this. If we lose the idea we only see ourselves in part, we get a little too cocky - common in the materialist culture. Thanks so much! You are my lifeline right now - these lectures are reawakening old useful ideas that were once so foundational for me, but seem to have vanished from the culture in recent years.
Hi, any thoughts on how to find your dragons?
@@jameslincs meditation
Everytime in a while I come here to watch and listen carefully tothis speech. Is my 5th time already, everytime is different and I learn something new, is incredible.
.... This is probably the best lecture I've ever listened to .... I've been avoiding a family member but now I know I need to face my dragon.
To think about the grind this guy put himself through back then with his career and family…
So that in 2014-2017 people all over the world love him and his work.
Very cool though. Inspiring to my own life as I'm on the younger side still!
A rare human being!!! Sooo intelligent 🙏🙏
Dr. Peterson, you have helped me understand myself and the world around me more in the past 2 years than I have understood in my whole life. I deeply thank you for that. We all do.
I want to meet Jordan Peterson one day. Reading his book and listening to his lectures changed the path of my life and quite possibly saved me from a mid life crisis by changing that path.
I found JP because I value freedom. I stayed because he's perhaps the only person I've ever known who has genuinley influenced my life for the better, or rather given me the tools to do so
How enjoyable! Thank you for posting. The more of your lectures I hear/see, the more I want.
Jordan may just be the modern-day archetype of an educated man, for a genuine education should not be an academic exercise perse, but a venture with real-world implications for action.
He has been saying the same thing for almost 4 decades; we expect people who repeat themselves to be boring, but Jordan isn't human like the rest of us.
This video summarises the central idea of his works.
The dragon = nature, red in tooth and claw.
It's the uncontrollable. The dragon is chaos. It's what mummy & daddy can't manage.
I am highly analytical. After 30 plus years and this lecture, I think it’s because of all the fairy tales I read as a kid. Thank you, Mr. Peterson!
Dr. Peterson I would suggest you look up the recent horror hit The Babadook. The reason that movie has been such a hit at such a primal level in so many audiences is because it was a horrifying retelling of the Billy and the Dragon story imo. You'd love it.
awesome lecturer
Wow, such a good suggestion. Somebody tweet this to Peterson. A true Dragon story.
Great movie btw.
Big Guy ba ba dooook! Lol
I named my penis Babadook. Slay that.
I always come back to this video to refresh my memory in confronting my fears.
This is such a great talk. I've been fishing around these videos for a while and have found them vastly interesting. I thoroughly enjoyed how the dragon tale was linked with each example in this video. Jordan Peterson is master of articulation and makes it so easy to understand these challenging concepts.
This is so powerful it can bring you to tears.
This is very elegant. On one level it's basic stuff, articulated beautifully and very profound when you meditate on it.
At around 54:20, Peterson talks about getting a piece of the dragon and using it for good purpose. I think this is profoundly true, and the same has been said by none other than CS Lewis at the end of "A Pilgrim's Regress":
‘Behemoth is my serving man!
Before the conquered hosts of Pan
Riding tamed Leviathan,
Loud I sing for well I can
RESVRGAM and IO PAEAN,
IO, IO, IO, PAEAN!!
‘Now I know the stake I played for,
Now I know what a worm’s made for!’
-A Pilgrim's Regress, CS Lewis. Sung by Vertue after slaying the dragon of passion. But not before dragon lit Vertue's rigidity, transforming leaden and dead cold-letter abiding rule into vitality, and thereby perfecting it.
I feel like this is a more direct translation of Campbell and Jung than Campbell and Jung
Joseph Toretti fuckin genuis
I was looking for this exact comment.
Because hes speaking in contemporary terms. I have the same problems with plato. I can read it obviously but i understand the material much better when i translate what i think hes trying to say in contemporary terms. I have a journal just for that which is what petersen said he had for Jung when he was first studying
I am eternally grateful to this person
I still have a vivid memory of a nightmare I used to have... I was about 5, of an actual dragon on this sort of circular island surrounded by cliffs with no where to go. I remember several weird nightmares, one with aliens, one with someone chasing me down. These all repeated enough to remember vividly. I'm 30 now, I haven't had a nightmare since I was probably 16. On a rare occasion I'll have a weird dream of zombies, or people trying to kill me except every time I'm calm and unafraid, or at least not thinking about the fear because I need to focus on survival and the task at hand, and I destroy whatever is trying to destroy me, even when completely out numbered. And I wake up refreshed lol, another night of kicking ass.
That's because you grew up and became dangerous yourself. People tend to confuse innocence with virtue, but _real_ virtue is having power and still choosing to make things better. We face our fears by internalizing them, to a certain extent - claiming a piece of the dragons we slay, so to speak.
this piece of lecture is my personal favorite
The best lecture I've ever seen.
my friend turned me onto your.... well, lectures and books and psychology... him knowing my fondness for the subject of life and mentality and it was probably to catch me as I fall through life, as he knows what it's like to fall.
I listen, and absorb... but I process it too, to find what will save me. Sometimes, that does include falling.
And it's comforting that as I feel and think these things, I don't feel bad about it.
This is priceless to me(or 'for' me?). Sorry for my poor english.
I can easily identify with Billy. The difference is that Billy said it out loud: there is a dragon. I've never reached that point when I was a kid. Silence was the safest option for me and my siblings.
Well, good for Billy that it ends pretty well:)
"Run from what you're afraid of? Run from exactly what you need to find." Riveting lecture. Priceless data. Thank you Jordan.
I would like to have met this man when he was a kid. I bet your could see the brilliance even back then.
Thank you Dr Peterson for all the knowledge you have shared. It truly has had a significant impact in my life.
I think there were a few dragons associated with those thumbs down
Yeah it's clearly snakes...
Amazing how much a video can change your life. This is one of those videos.
This is one of the best videos I have ever watched.
This is an amazingly deep and we'll articulated lecture. One if not the best of Dr Peterson's work. He's the Best.
Once he said,”when you go to the video store...” I realize how much I miss being out and interacting with people and also kinda miss going out and picking out videos...ah the simple things😪
This is one of the best lectures I’ve heard him do.