3.3GHz FPV from HobbyWireless, a first look
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Hobby Wireless sent in a sample of the new 3.3GHz FPV system for me to review and here's a first look at what you get - and an overview of why 3.3GHz might be a good alternative to 5.8GHz or 1.2GHz for many applications.
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I would most definitely like to see a series of videos on HAM tickets. That would be very interesting to me Bruce. good on ya.
+Gary Lowe Id love any more whiteboard videos
+Gary Lowe Fantastic idea. Bruce would be very good at it too!!
+Gary Lowe would love the HAM series. Please do it. I think it would allow for more to use 1.8/3.3 ghz
i would definitely watch a Ham series, sure it would be great
Absolutely agree
Hi Bruce - GREETINGS FROM NEW YORK CITY!!! First off, I'm relatively new to the sport and I have to thank you so much. I started flying about 7 months ago and you and your channel have been the best overall resource in my education thus far. I've found specific information I've been in search of, and learned about things I didn't even know existed. So THANK YOU! And yes, I would definitely love to learn about HAM as well.
also keen for the ham video i think that will help many people and help keep the hobby safe !
+Rotceh - so true ... awesome
Definitely planning on getting my HAM license. Some videos would be great!
+entomophile - Agree
+entomophile yes!!!
Did you get it? lmao
Yes! Interested in HAM video series! Great to see you back on deck, Bruce.
Thanks, Bruce, looking forward to your review of this kit!
I along with many others would really appreciate a video series on HAM, Bruce. Thanks for all you do.
As a lot of people are already saying, I too would like to see Bruce make a video series on getting a ham license. He would make it easy to understand.
I have had a Ham licence fo 30 years and it it proving very useful for this hobby. It gives me massive flexibility with kit like this.
Thats a great idea about doing videos regarding HAM license.
Mate your teaching style is the best, you are able to get quite complicated ideas across to plebs like me. I would be very interested to see videos on how to get you ham license.
Hi Bruce. I think it's important to stress that in the UK holding an amateur radio license does not automatically mean you can use this equipment. The UK Amateur Radio Licence does not permit broadcasts from airborne platforms within the amateur allocations other than frequencies assigned to the licence exempt Industrial, Scientific, and Medical (ISM) and Short Range Device (SRD) allocations exclusively for such purposes. Also in the UK the 3.3GHz amateur allocation is assigned on a secondary user basis with the Ministry of Defence being the Primary user. Other proposed uses of the 2.9GHz to 4GHz spectrum are dealt on a case by case basis under the sole authority of OFCOM, our equivalent of the FCC. It has been rumoured that OFCOM are now beginning to take an interest in 5.8GHz in relation to the use of excessive power, the maximum input at the antenna is 25mW in the UK. I really wish it was different.
Regards
Nidge
+sputniksam the reality is that pretty much nobody takes a blind bit of notice of these regulations. Something will have to give one way or another and soon !
+sputniksam Nidge, a very informative and useful post. In fact the 25mw limit is EIRP and therefore a 5.8Ghz transmitter with 25mw output power is not technically legal either. Given the typical gain of an omni-directional antenna the actual output power at the antenna would have to be limited to around 12mw to remain legal. I think that OFCOM will need to re-consider the use of the 5.8Ghz band in relation to FPV flying to ensure their rules remain practical and sensible given the growth in FPV flying and racing.
+sputniksam How long does the amateur license last for? i did mine years ago through air cadets, would be good to know if its still active
+MegaSexwax It last for life providing you keep your details up to date with Ofcom. Take a look at Ofcom Online Licensing Services.
+sputniksam Yep... this will vary country-by-country so people need to check their local regs in respect to whether it's legal to use this (or any) non-ISM system even with a ham license.
Staying tuned for part 2...
Looking forward to you're upcoming videos!
Can't wait for part 2. And I think the videos about ham licenses is a great idea.
Before you all go yes please for videos on getting an amateur radio licence, watching a few videos from Bruce will not you get past the exams. There is quite some detailed learning to undertake. Like radio and electronics theory as well as regulations. The requirements and level of detail will vary from country to country too. Getting an amateur radio licence is not a passport to RC Nirvana. Getting an amateur licence will bring further responsibility and culpability for your actions.
You could liken the amateur licence to a driving license in that it is the person who is licenced after proving their competency as opposed to registering the car which merely confirms the suitability of the car for on road use taxes and insurance aside.
+Rob B Yes there is some locale-specific information that needs to be learned but the ham ticket isn't nearly as onerous as it once was. I recall that proficiency in morse code used to be a criteria but fortunately that's no longer the case.
Basic RF theory gets you a fair way down the path to your ticket and the rest is pretty much some rote-learning.
+Rob B HAM licences are not that hard to get. I got mine last year with just kind of brushing through practice exams some.
Hell, I was 2 questions away from the general licence, and I just decided to take that one on a whim the same day I took the technician exam.
+SteevyTable It all depends on the base level and understanding of the individual. Honestly can you see someone that needs their hand held building a quad is going to even stand a chance? I think not.
I would suggest you have actually acquired a great deal of expertise along the way rather than in actually applying yourself to the task immediately prior to getting a ticket. Congrats on the success BTW.
A ham licence in the UK will not help because it does not allow for airborne transmission.
Yes HAM! It would be nice to be able to install an attenuator on my 600mw to drop it down to 250mw when I race instead of changing the tx. Where do you get one and what size do I need?
Yes please for the ham radio series!
Roger Lowery: I also would like to see a series on HAM tickets. Good work, Bruce.
Yes, definitely interested in video series on obtaining ham operators license.
I would like to see the ham stuff.
Dear Bruce,
Yes, please make a video series about getting a HAM license! And, yes, please make a in-depth video about the 3,3ghz. It sounds like a really interesting system (although, it is a "young" system).
Yes! We would love that video series!
HAM videos would be an awesome addition to your channel!
Definitely keen to see a series on HAM ticket (hopefully with an NZ focus!). Cheers Bruce, keep up the good work.
i'm very intrested in the ham licence tutorial
I have a Baofeng and have studied the HAM material. The part that throws me is the antenna calculations.
That transmitter looks a lot like the 1watt Lawmate 1.2.
YES!! Please do a series on HAM test prepping. Thanks!
Very interested in the Ham ticket videos!
The transmitter looks like indeed the first version of lawmate 1.2Ghz 1W, well noticed Bruce :)
The cloverleaf antenna is a blue beam 4 lobs, it can be used on the video TX and the video RX!
Bruce so glad you're back in the hobby at the level you certainly deserve. I'd be interested enough in the Ham ticket serious to make another donation to the cause "you". Your information is invaluable, but don't expect so large a donation that you'd retire from the hobby. j/k
I too am extremely interested in the ham licence vids. You do great work, thankyou for your effort.
Definitely interested in the HAM info! Thanks for offering that up, mate!
The HAM videos would be awesome Bruce
+1 on ham series. great idea and thanks for all your time and efforts.
I've been pleased with HobbyWireless. I got a bad pair of FatSharks, and they did good even though they were out of stock.
Bruce that plug you were referring to is called an Easy Cap, basically so you can connect you video receiver to you LapTop and DVR or record it instead of capturing it to a SD card.. I'm pretty sure anyways, I could be wrong and I would be interested in participating in a Ham Ticket prep class from you. THanks !
I think a basic understanding of the ham should be a important thing to know for all who fly or drive FPV. and it is a must if you do it over 25mW in the USA
Am going to build an APM rover which uses a 900 - 1280 range fpv set so am very interested in the ham license video!
+RC JOSEB same
+XYrZbest Good luck with your build!
YES!!! I've been wanting to get my ham license for a long time. Ham explained by Bruce Simpson would be great!
Some videos on ham licensing would be excellent, and surely help keep this hobby safe and legal.
Hi Bruce, another informative video. This frequency sounds like a great alternative to have available to FPV flyers (subject to testing of course). Yes, sign me up for the RC Model Reviews ham operator licence classes. Thanks Bruce
Count me in for the HAM license and thanks for what you do looking forward to some testscheers
Yes please !!! would love to see videos on getting your ham license
Yes, we're interested in your videos regarding HAM.
Thanks Bruce!
Brian
Bruce, I know you know your RF, but it does make me cringe to hear FSPL referred to as absorption.
In the US, I believe getting your FCC General radiotelephone operator's licence is sufficient to use a 2.4 or 3.3ghz transmiter
1watt!!! Far too powerful for flying with friends. I'd like 100mw 200mw 500mw really. I'm looking forward to seeing the results. I'd go with the HAM videos too. Thanks again Bruce, Richard
+ThatHPI GUY - so true. 1w is fine on a fixed wing long range flyer.
Cool, hope VTX's and VRX's become more widely available on this frequency. It'd be nice to have a little more penetration without the big jump in antenna size.
Well I'm already studying for it so I'm all for it sir.
Love your idea of doing videos on taking your hand radio test and it would be brilliant if you created those! Thank you for your great content!!
I would be interested in a ham video series.
Ham series would be awesome! Thanks mate!
A ham series would be fantastic!
Bruce, you could pass the Technician Ham license test in your sleep . . . I've been a Ham since I was a kid . . . Great Hobby and really compliments the RC Hobby. Go for it, do some Ham test preparation videos. Thanks, '73 Bob
i would love to see a ham video as well it would be sweet to learn and pass that test
I would love to see all the videos you mention making!
Same here Bruce, would be awesome to get some HAM videos on your channel.
Very interested in a HAM video series. Every FPV pilot should get one (cannot transmit @ more than 25mw on 5.8 here in the US).
YES PLEASE ... I would be very interested in the Ham tutorial videos .... pretty please!
i would also love a ham licence series. here in the U.S. we need ham for any fpv systems regardless of frequency.
HAM licence video come on Bruce!
Absolutely interested in the ham training videos! Great idea
the ham license guide would be greatly helpful!! thanks Bruce
I'm keen on a HAM series too!
There's more than enough videos and practice tests on the net and public libraries for ham, also some android apps, I think his time would be best spent reviewing rc!
Just checked the HAM frequency tables for Austria, Germany and Switzerland. In none of this countries 3.3GHz is a HAM band. So there's a good chance that this is also the case in most other countries of the European union. A HAM license would be cool anyway because it allows you to use higher wattage 2.4GHz gear legally.
Interesting review! Yes I am interested in learning about how to get a HAM license.
id really like to see some flight footage from fpv dvr to show how frequencies react to obstacles such as trees or buildings. for close range flying like Charpu etc rather than caring about long range.
In the USA, you need a Ham ticket for any radio signal that is in the HAM bands without an FCC ID number. So 5.8GHz needs a ticket too even at 25mw, technically.
I would like to learn more on getting a Ham License! Thanks for all the great videos!
yes, I want to learn more... thanks for a greate video!
Good advice on the amateur radio ticket, Bruce. What's your call sign? Cheers, Chris - W7BBQ.
Yes, please do a ham license video series.
Ham radio training videos would be great. Although in the US it's called a license. Tickets are what we get for legal infractions. So I guess in the upside down part of the world once you have a ticket do you get a license for infractions? Thanks for all your hard work in helping out the ignorant in a manner that even a dummy like me can understand..
I'd like to see 4 or more models on the bench each with a different frequency transmitter and clover antenna, for size reference and silliness 900, 1.2, 3.3, 2.5 or anything else you have laying around.
I would live to see a series about getting a ham
Yes yes, and Hell Yes on the Ham series
HAM Licence videos and the testing please. One suggestion, just a suggestion: Please try to post a single video with the unboxing and the testing. It is really hard to wait for your videos(so interesting).
It would be great to have videos regarding HAM Licenses
I too would like to see a series of HAM video's to help get a license. Thanks for the review.
Looks like you have got yourself a few more hrs of video to make Bruce as we should all get our HAM licence if we wish to get serious in our hobby and the more people being educated in this area the better I would think. So I will be ready to attend your classes as always.
I would definitely like to see training videos for the HAM ticket!!
I would love to have video series on how to get my ham license.
Yes please to the ham ticket series. :-)
Count me interested in the ham license video series
hi the 3.3ghz looks interesting. A ham video would be great if you get the time and I'm shoure it would be a go to reference as all the technical videos you've done have bean to a high standard and I've learnt a lot so far so hopefully it's thank you from me (may be for June or July a south winter ) Paul
Haha I have been working on Ham practice exams and plan to write before Christmas! So, uh, hurry up Bruce!
Extreme thumbs up for the HAM presentation... :)
Very interested in a video series on acquiring a HAM license. 433mHz is a must!
HAM series would be a great idea!
Thumbs up for HAM video series
I want to get my HAM please do more videos!
yipee... It`s learning time with Bruce again. yipeee. lol
I also am interested in the HAM license information.
Count me in on the HAM series!
PLZ hurry :) test it
exactly what I was waiting for ...don't like 2.4 nor the massive antennas on 1.2 So this looks great :)
+OldDude909 - I agree. I use the 1.2 on a park flyer. They don't look large on my planes but on a 250 they would.
the ham radio video series would be great!
Would definitely watch videos towards a HAM ticket, been wanting to do that anyway.
This 3.3GHz system looks like it is sold "a la cart". $250 will have to be justified with some damn good video and range. So a review would be appreciated. Ham it up, too, Bruce!
Bruce it would be great to do a long range FPV plane , as you have that powerful 1000mlw transmitter and all those long range systems from the long range videos .. ;)