Advanced Game Analysis - GM Ben Finegold - 2014.01.29

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2014
  • Grandmaster Ben Finegold presents a lecture for advanced players at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.

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  • @DWeirich76
    @DWeirich76 8 років тому +575

    Me vs. Ben Finegold: Ben lived in Michigan. I lived in Michigan (college in Flint) Ben lived in Belgium. I've been to Belgium. Ben is a grand master. I like pizza.

    • @abdirahmandama2061
      @abdirahmandama2061 8 років тому +3

      lol

    • @liver1865
      @liver1865 8 років тому +1

      +The Business lol

    • @Bigassboya
      @Bigassboya 7 років тому +26

      The Business Ben also likes pizza

    • @cartrinity
      @cartrinity 7 років тому +24

      The Business the sicilian is his favourite pizza

    • @zogzog1063
      @zogzog1063 7 років тому

      Nice. :-> (Ben might like pizza too?)

  • @ansonzachariah680
    @ansonzachariah680 6 років тому +222

    Even grandmasters miss king to b2.

  • @matthewerickson2006
    @matthewerickson2006 7 років тому +167

    how am I just finding this guy? I like chess again now. Suspicious!

  • @thekkl
    @thekkl 9 років тому +163

    He's so deadpan it took me a second to realize he was joking about Houdini suggesting resignation.

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 8 років тому +4

      +Matthew Helm Yeah, I don't think it ever suggests resignation haha.

    • @coreydallmeyer67
      @coreydallmeyer67 4 роки тому +1

      Hilarious when he talks about resigning so much.

  • @fengardice
    @fengardice 7 років тому +54

    34:51 "In 19... 87, I was playing in the New York Open against Jay Whitehead, rest in peace, and... (he was alive then, when he played me)"

  • @s.jackson4603
    @s.jackson4603 10 років тому +73

    ben finegold - finding things "uh terrible" since 1969

  • @Bodyfcn
    @Bodyfcn 10 років тому +69

    Finegold is GOLD, the best.

  • @Spiritbro77
    @Spiritbro77 10 років тому +25

    I love GM Finegold's Lectures. He is highly entertaining.

  • @danielmanahan692
    @danielmanahan692 10 років тому +84

    Great lecture as always. Can't fall asleep with Ben's commentary. Entertaining and informative. the best way to remember a lecture. now if I can just remember all this for my games.

  • @pgoedde
    @pgoedde 10 років тому +57

    more Ben pls !!!!

  • @GrayzBDF
    @GrayzBDF 2 роки тому +1

    Ben, you are GREAT at breaking things down . Thank you!

  • @cmfox3
    @cmfox3 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you Ben for your instructional masterpieces. I very much enjoy learning from you. Rarrr! :)

  • @Athenian888
    @Athenian888 8 років тому +22

    Lovable,educational,tremendously humoristic. :)

    • @liver1865
      @liver1865 8 років тому

      +Athenian888 Good, yes. Correct, yes. :-)

  • @achintya4094
    @achintya4094 5 років тому +3

    First time I learned something looking at a fine gold lecture...

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 7 років тому +79

    46:42.
    "What's the best defense for white?"
    "Kb2 [from h1]."
    "Yeah, I agree. That's probably the best defense." Hahaha

    • @gishena
      @gishena 3 роки тому +1

      But your rook is hanging!

  • @TexasSizzle
    @TexasSizzle 10 років тому +5

    You are hilarious and awesome Ben! Keep it up brother.

  • @seanc457
    @seanc457 9 років тому +7

    Paul Whitehead was actually my first chess teacher back in ~1999. Never thought I'd hear his name again!

  • @amoebawithlegs1032
    @amoebawithlegs1032 5 років тому +9

    just imagine that Ben is perpetually eating pizza. while he talks, while he analyzes, while he moves the pieces on the analysis board, everything. Even when hes not eating pizza. everything he says will suddenly make so much more sense.

  • @coreydallmeyer67
    @coreydallmeyer67 4 роки тому +8

    I've never even met this guy, but I love him

  • @misanthrop1958
    @misanthrop1958 10 років тому +3

    I adore you, Mr. Ben Finegold.

  • @dwx982
    @dwx982 10 років тому +2

    Funny guy, I always find GM v's amateur games instructive. Thanks for the upload.

  • @dmaster20ify
    @dmaster20ify 7 років тому

    Ben Finegold the boss!!! Been listening pure Ben Finegold since day.

  • @robappleby583
    @robappleby583 6 років тому

    One of Ben's best.

  • @nizziozaphaux4398
    @nizziozaphaux4398 8 років тому

    thank you very much, great lecture!

  • @MrGarugui
    @MrGarugui 7 років тому

    Smart chess teacher. Thanks for sharing

  • @GuanTones
    @GuanTones 5 років тому +13

    i have to give credit to the kid who played the first game for holding out so long.

  • @johannorman3067
    @johannorman3067 10 років тому +3

    King to b2, lol. Thanks GM Finegold for another instructive and entertaining lecture and thanks to CCSC of Saint Louis as well.

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt 5 років тому

      Cracked me up. His response is so deadpan. 46:42 in case others want to find it

  • @williamjohnson6588
    @williamjohnson6588 6 років тому +4

    Holy shit! Iskandar went to my high school. I remember how he would win chess tournaments like the state chess tournament. Crazy to see him mentioned in a video series I watch so much.

  • @abielfletcher7662
    @abielfletcher7662 Рік тому

    Love this guy teachings and jokes😂😂

  • @RodrigoHerrera111
    @RodrigoHerrera111 10 років тому +8

    MORE BEN!!

  • @joeybtheman1906
    @joeybtheman1906 6 років тому

    Love this guy!

  • @Womanizer1122
    @Womanizer1122 8 років тому +64

    haha this guy is like a semi comedian

  • @fadilhabibidanufane9593
    @fadilhabibidanufane9593 5 років тому +19

    A draw by three repetitions of stalemate claim HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Genius!

    • @xojeme
      @xojeme 4 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 2 роки тому

      "I don't have any good moves. Doesn't that make it a stalemate?"

  • @Shylopaul
    @Shylopaul 10 років тому +5

    Awesome.

  • @L4rken
    @L4rken 10 років тому +4

    This is very entertaining! And I also think I learned something :)

  • @svenpoelmans3688
    @svenpoelmans3688 4 роки тому +3

    He played a move I expected, I couldn't believe it, that's deep

  • @sanjaywagh9943
    @sanjaywagh9943 10 років тому +1

    Bens lecture are toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good

  • @sardinhunt
    @sardinhunt 3 роки тому +2

    "Ahhh... I didn't see king F2!" I lost it completely, I laughed for 10 minutes.

  • @albertvaldez2669
    @albertvaldez2669 4 роки тому +1

    A half chess master and a half comedian. I like Ben!!

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289 Місяць тому

    damn so happy to fnd more Ben Finegold lectures :) not quite as charming as him teaching a bunch of kids but just as entertaining and informative.

  • @chessbrahh2068
    @chessbrahh2068 Рік тому +2

    "Attack with all your pieces. And occasionally you should defend with some pieces too" -Ben Finegold

  • @dmaster20ify
    @dmaster20ify 7 років тому +11

    Draw by three fold stalemate claim!!!

  • @jaywolfenstien
    @jaywolfenstien 5 років тому +8

    Wait a minute! *I* miscalculate everything! Hooray! I think like a Grandmaster!

  • @geogeo3733
    @geogeo3733 3 роки тому +7

    19:46 Ben Finegold discovered the wooden shield before QVC, he just stole his idea. I guess that's why Ben hates him.

  • @siavashs1925
    @siavashs1925 6 років тому +12

    amazing simpson`s reference, I think that was from season 2. old quote!
    Lisa Simpson:" Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you are referring to a pawn."

  • @leavethebasket7435
    @leavethebasket7435 7 років тому +4

    ben has analyzed the first game before in the kids class.

  • @Parthasorenchess
    @Parthasorenchess 5 років тому +8

    27:13 I have two bishops, two bishops and two bishops

  • @thankyouthankyou1172
    @thankyouthankyou1172 5 років тому +2

    Ben is so funny, I love his tutorials

  • @kunalmandalia1165
    @kunalmandalia1165 9 років тому +11

    Rotating GM! :D

  • @dylan2009ist
    @dylan2009ist 10 років тому +1

    Ben is great :)

  • @tothepoint4080
    @tothepoint4080 2 роки тому

    best teacher

  • @iDeathSparky
    @iDeathSparky 2 роки тому +1

    It's so weird to hear "Let's call a random student" and not have it be followed up with "You!" or "Arjun!"

  • @antoniofcovacamansilla8460
    @antoniofcovacamansilla8460 10 років тому

    this guy rocks

  • @MrSilencetreatment
    @MrSilencetreatment 7 років тому

    30:00 after Black playing Rb8, can white play Rxg4? if black plays hxg4 then Nd7 works as it is equal material and the a pawn woulod be hanging, so it works for white anyway. I am not sure because I haven't got a computer engine to analyse this. Any suggestions? I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance and thanks Ben , you are the best teacher ever.

  • @paulomartins5071
    @paulomartins5071 7 років тому

    31:36 after Rb8 white to move Rxg4 if (gxf4 Nd7 Ra8 Nxf8 Kxf8 white slightly better) else (Rxb6 Rd4 white slightly better)
    though this line is tricky with time trouble because the game will require a lot of moves.

  • @Jan123.
    @Jan123. 4 роки тому +1

    Nice!

  • @augustgreig9420
    @augustgreig9420 7 років тому

    Okay, here is a perfect example of something I always wonder about.At 13:42, if the knight on f2 was somewhere else, say h3, would black come out better to play 1....Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Nxc4+ 3.Kc3 Nxa3. I know that white can play Rxc4, but not only does that look bad for white, it is besides my point. Are the 3 pawns worth the night? You leave white with anisolated d pawn, and black has 3 passed pawns.

  • @TheBackyardProfessor
    @TheBackyardProfessor 5 років тому +1

    You are awesome! Yes, it strokes your ego, but so what? You are awesome. I enjoyed this video very much, thanks man.

  • @gaming2top759
    @gaming2top759 8 років тому +1

    Good sense of humor :D

  • @draganaivankovic345
    @draganaivankovic345 8 років тому

    Can you do a video about austrian defense please?

  • @ill-fire85
    @ill-fire85 10 років тому

    queen h4 is a good move because after rook to g2 queen can sack on h2 when rook takes back its mate on g1 with the rook

  • @12jswilson
    @12jswilson Рік тому +1

    Finegold channeling his inner Kasparov at 11:05 with Bd8 as in Ivanchuk v Kasparov, Linares 1991.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 5 місяців тому

      Seirawan has also played this in several games and calls it the billiards shot if I remember correctly: bishop to the bottom cushion.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 5 місяців тому

      ​@@baoboumusic my joke was that Kasparov got crushed in that game with useless bishops, although the light square bishop was on e8, not c8. Probably the worst Kasparov has ever been beaten.

    • @baoboumusic
      @baoboumusic 5 місяців тому +1

      @@12jswilson I'd forgotten about that! Be8 was an admission of failure - must have been painful to play.
      I definitely do remember the tournament though. Chukkie's best result ever. Beat Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand... It looked like the end of the Kasparov era and the start of a new era - it wasn't quite that but his achievement was one for the ages.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 5 місяців тому

      @@baoboumusic playing Be8 and Bd8 is fine if you're just rerouting them a la Yasser. If they stay there and never move, I'm betting on the other guy. I don't care if you are arguably the greatest player to ever live.

  • @camreese
    @camreese Рік тому

    19:35 wow forking two pinned pieces thats actually a new one for me

  • @tutucox
    @tutucox 3 роки тому

    best gm

  • @eduardoayala3204
    @eduardoayala3204 2 роки тому

    That's a beautiful position oh my god

  • @maxpower9175
    @maxpower9175 3 роки тому +2

    This dude is hilarious!

  • @omgpuppet
    @omgpuppet 5 років тому +1

    This man is the Rodney Dangerfield of Chess

  • @toelloev
    @toelloev 10 років тому +5

    "Kb2 is probably the best move, yeah" hahah

    • @liver1865
      @liver1865 8 років тому

      toelloev Super funny. Garenteed to keep you awake and in your chair(not in bed!)

  • @daleking8654
    @daleking8654 8 років тому +4

    f**k kb2 is such a good move... (cracks me up haha)

  • @vasya5006
    @vasya5006 7 років тому +1

    31 he said its a the correct move but what if knight went to D7 forking both castles

  • @RossFigurepaintingCoUK
    @RossFigurepaintingCoUK 5 років тому

    Someone please put out of my misery as I cant find the mate 45 minutes in when g2 x f3. If white defends with his Q he seems to end up with a solid defence and a good queen sided attack supported by the knight. Ben says its mate and he is never wrong but I cant see it!! E.g. g2 x f3, Rg8; Qb4 Qg7; Qe1. Doesnt that stop the mate? Even if black gets a rook to g2 cant white just ignore it? White maybe needs the Q on d1 to cover the knight sacrifice and he can just sit it out while he pushes his Queen side pawns supported by the knight. All black's pieces are now tied up out of the game. What move have I missed for Black? I've been looking for ages and its driving me nuts. Loving your lectures Mr Finegold and you are slowly draggin me out of retirement. Thanks.

  • @anastasissfyrides2919
    @anastasissfyrides2919 6 років тому

    that pin was hilarious

  • @orangebetsy
    @orangebetsy 5 років тому

    What is the program being used here, where you can make proposed moves, see the resulting position, then return to the original position?

  • @sylver76
    @sylver76 5 років тому

    31:00 sequence. Did Ben overlook the fork on D7? Or am I missing something?

  • @tomzhangg
    @tomzhangg 6 років тому +1

    20:05 I think that’s called the dirty doubling doodler

  • @gcgrabodan
    @gcgrabodan 4 роки тому +1

    What is the story of Ken Wesley? 0:50

  • @yahya89able
    @yahya89able 6 років тому +4

    8:38 I take ur rook making a queen lool haha

    • @gxfr795
      @gxfr795 3 роки тому +1

      ‘Ah I missed Kf2’😂😂😂😂😂😂😭 like it was a refutation to the whole line

  • @ill-fire85
    @ill-fire85 10 років тому

    what about defending the a pawn with bishop e2

  • @aaronhowe3725
    @aaronhowe3725 10 років тому +17

    "Women." Lol. Great instructive video trumped by comedic wit!

  • @philipbourgeois6631
    @philipbourgeois6631 Рік тому

    Far out, some of these checkmates are so technical

  • @nikhilmalik62
    @nikhilmalik62 2 роки тому

    what is the name of the song in the intro?

  • @gmstuart4897
    @gmstuart4897 5 років тому +1

    Thats me!

  • @stevenhang9990
    @stevenhang9990 8 років тому +1

    at 31:03, is it possible for white to go Rxg4 with a fork Nd7 in mind when hxg4?

    • @morallygray6527
      @morallygray6527 5 років тому

      @jmoneyy1984 Not if you played Rxg4 lol then there's no bishop defending d7

    • @user-ts3ij7te6j
      @user-ts3ij7te6j 5 років тому

      He plays rxb6

  • @D3ck3rCain
    @D3ck3rCain Рік тому

    How do you find gold? With Benjamin’s

  • @agnelaaron1728
    @agnelaaron1728 5 років тому

    I’m sorry but what’s between KEN west and finegold? Any reason why he keeps picking on him?

  • @mangeshmodak
    @mangeshmodak 8 років тому

    at 43.57 instead of doubling rooks what if whit plays 1)N*e5 Q*e5, 2Nd7 .....forking rook and queen and then taking rook on f8

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeade 8 місяців тому

    Why are comments open on Ben's game but closed off on that foxy GM"s game?

  • @MrSabachtani
    @MrSabachtani 9 років тому +1

    Wait... There is a Simpsons Episode about chess and I haven't seen it?
    What's the name of the episode?

    • @Majora1988
      @Majora1988 9 років тому +2

      It's the season 2 episode "Dead Putting Society" Its just a line in the episode, its about Homer and Flanders getting competitive over a mini golf tourney.

    • @TheMrKlowb
      @TheMrKlowb 9 років тому +6

      Josephus Mutzenbacher Bart: Hey, Lis, what do you call those guys in chess that don't matter?Lisa: Well, a blockaded bishop is of little value, but I think you're referring to a pawn.Bart: Right, I am a pawn.Lisa: I know. It's times like this I'm thankful that Dad has little to no interest in almost everything I do.

  • @JohnnyBrutalUSA
    @JohnnyBrutalUSA 10 років тому +1

    Aren't those half open files instead of open files? Great video. Ben Finegold is the best, but he has never beaten me.

    • @TexasSizzle
      @TexasSizzle 10 років тому

      why because you haven't played him much?

    • @liver1865
      @liver1865 8 років тому

      mcpartridgeboy it's Carlson okay?

  • @jamest4189
    @jamest4189 Рік тому +5

    He randomly mentions Andrew Tate's dad Emory 22:41

    • @tellahsage6477
      @tellahsage6477 Рік тому

      Emory Tate's a pretty famous player, most in chess know him. Saw his name mentioned in several books too

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 5 місяців тому

      ​@@tellahsage6477there's a funny game between Emory Tate and Ben where Ben crushes him with the black pieces in about 20 moves. I want to say it was in ~2004. But yeah Emory Tate is probably one of the most notable chess players to never become a grandmaster, at least in the US.

  • @SampleMehard
    @SampleMehard 6 років тому

    At 31.11 what's wrong the bishop e2? That's the move I blurted out when he ask. Some.one correct me and show me why plz

    • @j.prt.979
      @j.prt.979 6 років тому

      Jeff Stelling No, that’s not the problem. The real reason why Be2 doesn’t work is because of Nd7 forking both Black rooks now that d7 is crucially undefended by the Bishop. It actually took me a moment to find that too because I knew that if Rd2 in response to Be2, then black would just move the bishop to b5 (which led to me finding Nd7 responding to Bb5 which led to me seeing that the Knight could go to d7 immediately instead of the useless in-between move Rd2).
      It’s a little sad too, because Be2 just looks so cool to play as it stops both Rc4 and Rook A takes a6 with a very invasive looking minor piece move. :p

  • @ISHITINYAFACE
    @ISHITINYAFACE 10 років тому

    Kinda felt with him, when he made the simpson joke.

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 3 роки тому

    29:43 anyone know why the knight is the only defense for A6? Ben says it's the only thing that defends A6.... what about rook A8 or Bishop E2?
    EDIT: ok maybe not rook to A8.... whoops ;D
    Also, bishop E2 would stop his rook to C4.... I must be missing something, there is no way that's too sneaky for ben to see, and I'm sure he's analyzed it with the computer.

  • @jasonofathens2254
    @jasonofathens2254 4 роки тому +1

    23:23 "..women", i spilled my milk

  • @svfox
    @svfox 7 років тому

    fun vid

  • @sheikmanzoor5003
    @sheikmanzoor5003 9 місяців тому

    In parallel universe Ken East is a super GM

  • @buddytevepaugh8525
    @buddytevepaugh8525 5 років тому

    DAT BIZ SNATCH CrAzZy luv ya man

  • @deldri
    @deldri 8 років тому

    31:00 I like the idea of Rxg4 :)

  • @gowri75
    @gowri75 6 років тому

    Bens videos are fine as gold to me👊😉😂😁😄😃😆👋✋🙂🤣🏆💸💱

  • @puddingosu3326
    @puddingosu3326 5 років тому

    good