I know this video is old. Thank you for your explanation. I don’t have a comparator so I measure the length and weight of each bullet. Then I load them. That has helped accuracy. I now need to buy a comparator. Very informative. Thank you again.
Yessir. Learned this the hard way when I jammed a hollow-tip and spend two hours cleaning up powder and knocking a bullet out of the lands. Thanks for the reminder😁
Thanks for the video. Like it has been noted, it's actually pronounced "o-jive". I don't make up the rules, just what it's always been pronounced. Keep up the good work.
Great info as always, this tool is high on my priority list and I will definitely pick it up through your link. Glad the stickers turned out so good man and I really appreciate the mention! I will have a video up on them soon!
Great video. Brought up some questions, but I won't ask them here. Don't want to be a target of all the keyboard commandos. I'll figure it out. Thanks!
One main difference between us and animals is the ability to share knowledge. When it comes to firearms its better to ask a question than make a potentially fatal mistake. Let the keyboard commandos be what they are.
Been handloading over 60 years...ogive is pronounced OH GIVE..emphasis on the OH and long "I" in give. It is NOT pronounced give as to "give me directions". You do a super job on explanations.
Totally understand how this tool will give you consistent clearance from your lands. But doesn't it at the same time create different pressure issues between the rounds when almost all bullets are different lengths and when you are setting them according to the ogive you are seating some bullets deeper ? And does that not create different velocities ? And different velocities over distance will create different impact points ? Honest questions.
I understand why to measure to the ogive and how to measure my rifle to get the "to the lands" dimension. How do you compare a given OAL given for load specs to the ogive measurement?
I never knew that Hornady made that anvil base for the Bullet/Headspace comparator kit... Every time you clamp the comparator on your calipers it's always offset and it makes my OCD go a little crazy. LOL Just ordered one...
You are correct. Learned it in seventh grade. Don't understand why professional UA-cam reloaders don't have the nomenclature down pat. At least he doesn't call his loaded ammo, "bullets".
@@luvtahandload7692 If you so dam smart then why don't you have a youtube channel? No you use it and watch other people on their channel. Another mouthy nut job.
Very informative as usual Kurt . Mate with my 30 Cal Hornady insert the 308 Hornady 168gr A-Max bullets go into it without touching any part of the inside of the insert and the bullet tip goes all the way until it touches the front of the body , for the life of me I don’t understand how it is that Hornady let that one slip through quality control ( maybe these inserts are not suitable for their A-max bullets . I haven’t read it anywhere that they are not . Perhaps they make special inserts for their long sleek A-Max and ELD bullets , not that I’ve heard that they do ) . My question is can I use a smaller insert say the .28 cal and still get a valid reading or should I just by a Sinclair insert ? .Cheers 🍻 from Australia .
Conservative Sniper Hunter odd, I’ve used the A-Max bullets with those and not had any issues. I’ve also used a size smaller with perfect results. I say give that a try
OK sir I am not questioning you but I am confused you call it the oh give 95% of the other people call at the ogive pronounced O jive. Do we know for sure which one it is so I don’t look stupid?
I, as a new reloader have questioned this... My fear has been the maximum length of a loaded round fitting in the magazine.. Shooting a .308.. recommended overall length is 2.800"... Measuring from base to tip this is pretty easily accomplished, but because of the difference in some bullets in length from ogive to tip, there is a possibility of seating a round that is too long to fit in the mag. What are your recommendations for eliminating the over length cartridge...??
Question!! So when a load manual calls for a particular COAL for example a .308 at 2.810, is that to the ogive and not the tip? Let say if you measured to the tip to get that number(2.810), that rounds completed length measured to ogive would be smaller than the tip measurement(2.810) no? sorry for the confusion, I'm new to reloading and just want to make sure I do not make any critical mistakes! Thanks for the great vids!
If you are using Hornady headspace gauge and check it with every box of bullets you load. Would you not catch it this way? VS checking the bullet all by its self. And the tip of the bullet does not enter the equation. I am new to reloading 6.5 Creedmoor and am learning all I can before trial and error. I am on the 10 days wait for my riffle but have everything to build bullets. Currently sizing new and once fired brass. Using Lee 4 set die set. The first time through full-length sizing until I fire them once. Any pointer from you are very welcome since I follow your channel.
Robert w S I take a sample out of each box and check about 10 and up to 20 to get a good average. Don’t over think this. .001 here and .003 there aren’t that big of a deal.
@@vaughnprecision Thank you for responding. Just like I have been hearing stop all the neck sizing and wearing your brass out. Bumping shoulder back will deliver accuracy. And like I said before this is new stuff to me. Loading straight brass no problem. Load shotgun so far no problem. I must say I am having a great time learning and just getting emerged in this topic. I love the details and precision. Maybe that's why I repair and build stuff for a living.
How do I tell which bushing to use.? It looks to me it looks likethe bushing doesent slide up the bullet far enouph? I have a bushing that says 8-30, it's hornady, would this be the right one for 30cal? I'm new to relaoding and my goal is to get as close to the lans as possible.
Mr. Bennett Took a bit to figure this one out too. Each bushing is stamped with a number and those numbers refer to a specific caliber. For example, 22 = .223, 30 = 308, 26 = .264, etc. The number refers to the first 2 numbers of the caliber.
I did not hear you say anything about head space? and a go no gauge tool as you can get to close to lands! Also semi auto loaders need to be care not get to long and cause cycle problems!
Sorry for the late question but how do you get consistent ogives if the oal of bullet is different up to .008? Would I need a die to seat off ogive? I use a lee seating die.
Great video explaining the use of these inserts. Question: the insert is basically to stop on the ogive, and it's best to stop in the "sweet" spot, center, of the ogive? I'm asking because I can turn some of these up easily enough to use with my head space set without having to buy them. Thanks
@@mortenbreiland3984 The inserts are bore diameter. The bullets should meet the insert @ roughly the same COAL where they will meet the rifling. Need inserts for each caliber.
@@luvtahandload7692 The point of this tool is to avoid measuring from the tip of the bullet. So where on the ogive you measure does not matter. It is actually easier and more accurate to measure closer to the bullet tip.
Les Laxson most the time I just load by the book for AR platforms. However, I also measure the mag length and seat bullets about 50 thousandth short of max length. This will usually run them fine
Oh-jive or ogive ...the only thing that matters is what your gun likes. The rest is hot air adding to global warming. My .223 Remington 700 BDL loves the Winchester (USA 2232) 45 gr. Hollow point. Now with the ammo shortage I thought I would give reloading a try. Before throwing a load, I wanted to learn as much as I could for safety first, then get into the mechanics of reloading. First I needed a process that works for me and covers all the bases. In my research, one of the things I discovered is the OGIVE and its relationship to accuracy and safety. So, I decided to check a box of my guns favorite ammo for where is the ogive. Well, it’s all over the map plus or minus 0.030” 😳 My goal is to reproduce what my gun likes, and not to reinvent the wheel here. Since bullet diameter for .223 is actually .224, and the inside diameter of my barrel 0.213 than is an 0.011” press fir or interference fit. THATS HUGE....!! And very tight. After further study, the barrel major diameter below the rifling lands is 0.224. Which makes sense. It take every bit of that 50,000 psi of pressure to push that bullet out the end and do it’s job......accurately. Now, with all this, there is a ton of friction going on. A small blast of heat and a ton of friction making more heat. Although the pressure is high, the amount of cubic feet created is very small. But, that friction is only really high for the first half inch or so, until the entire bearing surface of the bullet has been push into the rifling, then the resistance decreases exponentially because then those groves or little highways are done being made. As that happens the pressure is dropping as the powder gets used up. That’s why a slow burning powder is better for rifles that for pistols. Too much powder is a bad thing. That is looking more like there is a timing issue going on here too. Having a powder that keeps burning long after the bullet has cleared the barrel is an expensive waste. There is a lot of physics, chemistry and mechanics going on the very nano second that firing pin hits the primer. Our job is done. There is nothing more we can do, but enjoy the ride. You gun will either love what you put in the chamber, or hate what you did. Ok, so, what am I talking about here? I want to make what my gun likes, but with the ogive tolerance all over the map which one to I choose, where do I start? I am going to start with nominal first. That means a 45 grain bullet. Then powder choice for a bullet speed. I have several boxes of over the counter 2232. I am going to check 5 boxes of 40 rounds to get a mean on the ogive position. FIRST. Then start with a load from the reload data, and placing my bullet at the mean depth I come up with. And go from there. So far I am into this about a thousand dollars. That’s just me. For some guys those details don’t mean a thing. For me it does. It part of the journey, it’s part of my process, it only about the fun, and it’s about about sharing very real accurate knowledge to others, so they next guy can go to the range knowing he is good to go safely. These are big boy toys that can hurt others. My father and I went to the local gun range. These three brother showed up with hand guns. They acted weird. They had just reloaded some pistol rounds. They made me feel very uncomfortable. My father was up to shoot. I got worried so I pulled him off the bench. As I did, the on his left shot, and a small piece of lead just knocked my dad on his left cheek bone. I told the range master. He made these guys leave the range and they denied it was them, and things began to escalate. After some shouting back and forth between them and the range master, others came out of the clubhouse. Those brothers left. Unbeknownst to us, they have been trouble each time, and were never allowed access to the range again. So, now after a seven year hiatus, I want to get back into shooting again, but, my GOD, this is sure bad timing. My personal promise to my wife and myself is to always be safe. My other promise is to always pass on positive facts I can prove with actual numbers when asked. Right now, all I have is my plan. Five decimal places is precision to me. That, I can count on.
Your on the right path.! I know several people who just want to load up and make things go bang while the rest of us dive deep in to the science of how things work. Yes, unfortunately there are idiots at the range, but you can find those anywhere you go.!
Love your videos. I've learned vast amounts of knowledge from you. So thanks so much for your wealth of information! But..... I've been told it's pronounced "O-JIVE" not O-GIVE. Any thoughts or is it simply as TOMATO and TOMAHTO?
Im not sure what happened, but this video is not showing up in my subscription feed. Maybe something on your end or maybe UA-cam is playing games... Just thought you should know as maybe its happening to others as well.
You're not wrong. Bullet makers have to stop somewhere to replace their tooling. The new tooling isn't going to be machined to the same dimensions as the tooling they just got done wearing out.
Why? They don't seat the bullets by pushing on the tips. Lead tips can vary by several thousanths of an inch. Even plastic tips or match hollow points can vary.
AHHHHHH !!! its pronounced as "O-JIVE", not "O-GIVE".......good video, but annoying as hell each time you mispronounce the word. When TEACHING, ...proper pronunciation REALLY makes a difference in your credibility and student attention span.
please dont think I am being mean....I thoroughly enjoyed the video!!!! Think of my comment as good humored banter....in the Army, we always kidded around and would sharpshoot our buddies..... your good Bro !!!
I made a video series on reloading 6.6 CM and got a lot of negative reviews in my part 6 video (seating) - ua-cam.com/video/x4PNP-4F0xQ/v-deo.html I heard that the ELDs were very consistent, I couldn't be certain until I checked myself doing exactly what you just did in this video, I think most people are used to inconsistent tips from other bullet manufacturers, but Hornady ELD bullets are made very well. I have had reloading instructors disagree with me, which I can understand if they havent relaoded ELDs, but I think you and I know the truth. Good video man
O jive is how I hear most pronounce it. O give…. Like… give me some money…. Sounds like it’s spelled. Is this another dang Zerox spelled xerox!!!!! I would REALLY love to slap the person that first called it ZEROX AND SPELLED IT XEROX!!
I know this video is old. Thank you for your explanation. I don’t have a comparator so I measure the length and weight of each bullet. Then I load them. That has helped accuracy. I now need to buy a comparator. Very informative. Thank you again.
Yessir. Learned this the hard way when I jammed a hollow-tip and spend two hours cleaning up powder and knocking a bullet out of the lands. Thanks for the reminder😁
Thanks for the video. Like it has been noted, it's actually pronounced "o-jive". I don't make up the rules, just what it's always been pronounced. Keep up the good work.
Bill Smith I've always heard O-jive also not O give
Great info as always, this tool is high on my priority list and I will definitely pick it up through your link. Glad the stickers turned out so good man and I really appreciate the mention! I will have a video up on them soon!
West Desert Shooter West Desert Shooter never ask if I wanted stickers. He must not thing I am important. 😢
Thank you for including the link to the anvil base. Those were hard to find lol
Very good info,ty
Great video. Brought up some questions, but I won't ask them here. Don't want to be a target of all the keyboard commandos. I'll figure it out. Thanks!
One main difference between us and animals is the ability to share knowledge. When it comes to firearms its better to ask a question than make a potentially fatal mistake. Let the keyboard commandos be what they are.
Starting to make sense to me, thanks.
Been handloading over 60 years...ogive is pronounced OH GIVE..emphasis on the OH and long "I" in give. It is NOT pronounced give as to "give me directions". You do a super job on explanations.
Glad you let us all know how to pronounce that or i wouldn't have ever been able to reload
Actually, it is pronounced “Oh Jive”, not with a hard G. It’s a geometric reference used in numerous industries. Enjoy and nice video.
Oh jive...week one Field Artillery Officer Basic Course, 1995, Ft Sill, OK.
@@anthonykaiser974 oh jive. Christmas vacation, seventh grade. 😜
@@aaroncarey2909 lol
Great video.thx for sharing🎉
Totally understand how this tool will give you consistent clearance from your lands. But doesn't it at the same time create different pressure issues between the rounds when almost all bullets are different lengths and when you are setting them according to the ogive you are seating some bullets deeper ? And does that not create different velocities ? And different velocities over distance will create different impact points ? Honest questions.
Great video and explanation
I understand why to measure to the ogive and how to measure my rifle to get the "to the lands" dimension. How do you compare a given OAL given for load specs to the ogive measurement?
Exactly
I'm new to reloading, my question is the books give your col with a particular bullet , how do you figure out what it should measure to the o jive ?
@@brianbulson5083 each gun is different and you’ll need a drilled and tapped once fired case to figure that out. I’ve got a video on it
I never knew that Hornady made that anvil base for the Bullet/Headspace comparator kit... Every time you clamp the comparator on your calipers it's always offset and it makes my OCD go a little crazy. LOL Just ordered one...
Ogive (pron: O jive). They teach this in week one at Field Artillery school.
You are correct. Learned it in seventh grade. Don't understand why professional UA-cam reloaders don't have the nomenclature down pat. At least he doesn't call his loaded ammo, "bullets".
@@luvtahandload7692 If you so dam smart then why don't you have a youtube channel? No you use it and watch other people on their channel. Another mouthy nut job.
@@1stFlyingeagle Sounds like you're the mouthy nut job. At least I know how to spell damn, in the context that you used it in.
Got to get one of those ogive measuring tools. Great video sir. What bullet brand do you prefer?
Very informative as usual Kurt . Mate with my 30 Cal Hornady insert the 308 Hornady 168gr A-Max bullets go into it without touching any part of the inside of the insert and the bullet tip goes all the way until it touches the front of the body , for the life of me I don’t understand how it is that Hornady let that one slip through quality control ( maybe these inserts are not suitable for their A-max bullets . I haven’t read it anywhere that they are not . Perhaps they make special inserts for their long sleek A-Max and ELD bullets , not that I’ve heard that they do ) . My question is can I use a smaller insert say the .28 cal and still get a valid reading or should I just by a Sinclair insert ? .Cheers 🍻 from Australia .
Conservative Sniper Hunter odd, I’ve used the A-Max bullets with those and not had any issues. I’ve also used a size smaller with perfect results. I say give that a try
@Vaughn Precision Thanks Kurt . I just wasn’t sure if I could use a smaller insert to get a valid measurement. I’ll certainly try it . Cheers 🍻
I bought the bullet comparator can use same comparator with the headspace bushings
I like DAVIDSON - SEATING DEPTH BASE PIECES better than Hornaday anvil because primer will not touch on base like Hornady anvil..
I'm new to shooting but I wondered is measuring to the O'Give something new ?
I see so many new videos about this measurement.
It’s not new, but it’s more accurate
I do this with the same bullet and it's giving me different results... I use hornady tool and lapua bullet.
what if if you could give us some information on 9 mm precision hand loading
I’ve got some plans this year to load 9mm and 10mm. Stay tuned
hi ,whats correct length to ogive 308 cal.175 gr sierra MK
OK sir I am not questioning you but I am confused you call it the oh give 95% of the other people call at the ogive pronounced O jive. Do we know for sure which one it is so I don’t look stupid?
I mess it up all the time, it O Jive
I, as a new reloader have questioned this... My fear has been the maximum length of a loaded round fitting in the magazine.. Shooting a .308.. recommended overall length is 2.800"... Measuring from base to tip this is pretty easily accomplished, but because of the difference in some bullets in length from ogive to tip, there is a possibility of seating a round that is too long to fit in the mag. What are your recommendations for eliminating the over length cartridge...??
Where can I find the anvil base ? Thanks 🎉🎉
Type in Hornady anvil in amazon, they have them cheap listed there.
Question!! So when a load manual calls for a particular COAL for example a .308 at 2.810, is that to the ogive and not the tip? Let say if you measured to the tip to get that number(2.810), that rounds completed length measured to ogive would be smaller than the tip measurement(2.810) no? sorry for the confusion, I'm new to reloading and just want to make sure I do not make any critical mistakes! Thanks for the great vids!
COAL is base to tip
If you are using Hornady headspace gauge and check it with every box of bullets you load. Would you not catch it this way? VS checking the bullet all by its self. And the tip of the bullet does not enter the equation. I am new to reloading 6.5 Creedmoor and am learning all I can before trial and error. I am on the 10 days wait for my riffle but have everything to build bullets. Currently sizing new and once fired brass. Using Lee 4 set die set. The first time through full-length sizing until I fire them once. Any pointer from you are very welcome since I follow your channel.
Robert w S I take a sample out of each box and check about 10 and up to 20 to get a good average. Don’t over think this. .001 here and .003 there aren’t that big of a deal.
@@vaughnprecision Thank you for responding. Just like I have been hearing stop all the neck sizing and wearing your brass out. Bumping shoulder back will deliver accuracy. And like I said before this is new stuff to me. Loading straight brass no problem. Load shotgun so far no problem. I must say I am having a great time learning and just getting emerged in this topic. I love the details and precision. Maybe that's why I repair and build stuff for a living.
@@vaughnprecision I will for sure follow sound advice.
Is Ogive and Ojive the same thing? I thought it was Ojive? or can a guy use both words to describe the bullet shape? Thanks for the video.
Good video and informative. The o_give is pronounced as O Jive😇
True! I looked it up on google. Great videos!
Thanks...🤠
How do I tell which bushing to use.? It looks to me it looks likethe bushing doesent slide up the bullet far enouph? I have a bushing that says 8-30, it's hornady, would this be the right one for 30cal? I'm new to relaoding and my goal is to get as close to the lans as possible.
Mr. Bennett Took a bit to figure this one out too. Each bushing is stamped with a number and those numbers refer to a specific caliber. For example, 22 = .223, 30 = 308, 26 = .264, etc. The number refers to the first 2 numbers of the caliber.
The bushing is bore diameter. The bullet will meet the bushing about the same COAL it will meet the rifling.
I did not hear you say anything about head space? and a go no gauge tool as you can get to close to lands! Also semi auto loaders need to be care not get to long and cause cycle problems!
Sorry for the late question but how do you get consistent ogives if the oal of bullet is different up to .008? Would I need a die to seat off ogive? I use a lee seating die.
Jon Lopez I’ll be doing a video on that topic soon.
Im Farley new to reloading i load 223 for an ar-15 if i measures of the ogive will i do the same over OAL as tip
Great video explaining the use of these inserts.
Question: the insert is basically to stop on the ogive, and it's best to stop in the "sweet" spot, center, of the ogive? I'm asking because I can turn some of these up easily enough to use with my head space set without having to buy them. Thanks
Later2u yes, it’s basically making contact roughly in the middle of the ogive.
Thanks, your channel is awesome, just found it. I'm sure to learn more about reloading.
Then why are they caliber specific? We really need only one small one.
@@mortenbreiland3984 The inserts are bore diameter. The bullets should meet the insert @ roughly the same COAL where they will meet the rifling. Need inserts for each caliber.
@@luvtahandload7692 The point of this tool is to avoid measuring from the tip of the bullet. So where on the ogive you measure does not matter. It is actually easier and more accurate to measure closer to the bullet tip.
“Ogive” 😂😂😂😂
If your reloading for an AR platform should you use a comparator or just measure from the tip to meet magazine length?
Les Laxson most the time I just load by the book for AR platforms. However, I also measure the mag length and seat bullets about 50 thousandth short of max length. This will usually run them fine
I'm wondering if there is a recommended starting point for how far your bullet sits off the lands?
If using Weatherby rounds, do not sit on the lands, you will have huge pressure problems, unless you back the loads way off
Then why are they caliber specific? We really need only one small one.
is the clampon part on the comparator the same for both the Headspace kit and the Bullet Comparator?
marcellowealth it can be used on both
Can someone please send me a measurement in metric of the hole of the .30 cal comp. gauge. Thanks
Hi, will this tool work to measure the rim to ogive on a 22LR rimfire
No. Their .22 cal comparators are for centerfire bullets which measure .224". Twenty-two rimfire bullets measure .222".
Oh-jive or ogive ...the only thing that matters is what your gun likes. The rest is hot air adding to global warming. My .223 Remington 700 BDL loves the Winchester (USA 2232) 45 gr. Hollow point. Now with the ammo shortage I thought I would give reloading a try. Before throwing a load, I wanted to learn as much as I could for safety first, then get into the mechanics of reloading. First I needed a process that works for me and covers all the bases. In my research, one of the things I discovered is the OGIVE and its relationship to accuracy and safety. So, I decided to check a box of my guns favorite ammo for where is the ogive. Well, it’s all over the map plus or minus 0.030” 😳 My goal is to reproduce what my gun likes, and not to reinvent the wheel here. Since bullet diameter for .223 is actually .224, and the inside diameter of my barrel 0.213 than is an 0.011” press fir or interference fit. THATS HUGE....!! And very tight.
After further study, the barrel major diameter below the rifling lands is 0.224. Which makes sense. It take every bit of that 50,000 psi of pressure to push that bullet out the end and do it’s job......accurately. Now, with all this, there is a ton of friction going on. A small blast of heat and a ton of friction making more heat. Although the pressure is high, the amount of cubic feet created is very small. But, that friction is only really high for the first half inch or so, until the entire bearing surface of the bullet has been push into the rifling, then the resistance decreases exponentially because then those groves or little highways are done being made. As that happens the pressure is dropping as the powder gets used up. That’s why a slow burning powder is better for rifles that for pistols. Too much powder is a bad thing. That is looking more like there is a timing issue going on here too. Having a powder that keeps burning long after the bullet has cleared the barrel is an expensive waste.
There is a lot of physics, chemistry and mechanics going on the very nano second that firing pin hits the primer. Our job is done. There is nothing more we can do, but enjoy the ride. You gun will either love what you put in the chamber, or hate what you did.
Ok, so, what am I talking about here? I want to make what my gun likes, but with the ogive tolerance all over the map which one to I choose, where do I start? I am going to start with nominal first. That means a 45 grain bullet. Then powder choice for a bullet speed. I have several boxes of over the counter 2232. I am going to check 5 boxes of 40 rounds to get a mean on the ogive position. FIRST. Then start with a load from the reload data, and placing my bullet at the mean depth I come up with. And go from there. So far I am into this about a thousand dollars. That’s just me.
For some guys those details don’t mean a thing. For me it does. It part of the journey, it’s part of my process, it only about the fun, and it’s about about sharing very real accurate knowledge to others, so they next guy can go to the range knowing he is good to go safely. These are big boy toys that can hurt others. My father and I went to the local gun range. These three brother showed up with hand guns. They acted weird. They had just reloaded some pistol rounds. They made me feel very uncomfortable. My father was up to shoot. I got worried so I pulled him off the bench. As I did, the on his left shot, and a small piece of lead just knocked my dad on his left cheek bone. I told the range master.
He made these guys leave the range and they denied it was them, and things began to escalate. After some shouting back and forth between them and the range master, others came out of the clubhouse. Those brothers left. Unbeknownst to us, they have been trouble each time, and were never allowed access to the range again. So, now after a seven year hiatus, I want to get back into shooting again, but, my GOD, this is sure bad timing.
My personal promise to my wife and myself is to always be safe. My other promise is to always pass on positive facts I can prove with actual numbers when asked. Right now, all I have is my plan. Five decimal places is precision to me. That, I can count on.
Your on the right path.! I know several people who just want to load up and make things go bang while the rest of us dive deep in to the science of how things work.
Yes, unfortunately there are idiots at the range, but you can find those anywhere you go.!
Love your videos. I've learned vast amounts of knowledge from you. So thanks so much for your wealth of information! But..... I've been told it's pronounced "O-JIVE" not O-GIVE. Any thoughts or is it simply as TOMATO and TOMAHTO?
Jeffrey M. Green it's actually O-Give, I was corrected many times hahaha
Ok we will agree to disagree! Webster's Dictionary says otherwise! LOL!
It's actually pronounced "O-JIVE". When in doubt, check the dictionary. :)
www.google.com/search?q=Dictionary#dobs=ogive
Agreed! It sounds weird when people pronounce it "O-GIVE"
Webster's, the Army, and the USMC agree, it's "Oh Jive"
Does this benefit you if you are shooting with an AR 15?
DestructiveNews yes, it sure can. However you can’t load to long because of mag length. But I do use it on all my ARs
Im not sure what happened, but this video is not showing up in my subscription feed. Maybe something on your end or maybe UA-cam is playing games... Just thought you should know as maybe its happening to others as well.
Neil Harris thanks for the heads up, I ask around to other folks. I suspect UA-cam is playing games
I could be wrong but I don't think measuring the ogive is any better I've noticed if you go from lot # to lot# the ogive is different
You're not wrong. Bullet makers have to stop somewhere to replace their tooling. The new tooling isn't going to be machined to the same dimensions as the tooling they just got done wearing out.
O-give me a home, where the boofalo rome, and the skies rrr nut clouty all dai...... O-jive turkee
Oh (you) jive turkey!
I thought it's pronounced: oh-jive.
It is, week one Ft Sill, OK as a cherry lieutenant.
You're correct. O jive, not o give
is pronouncing it O'Jive a French thing ?
I gotta pick one of these up sometime.
You won't be disappointed..!! I've been using them for a while and I'm still very happy with it!
One would think that manufacturers would produce every round with base to tip lengths identical down to the thousandths or ten thousandths of an inch.
Why? They don't seat the bullets by pushing on the tips. Lead tips can vary by several thousanths of an inch. Even plastic tips or match hollow points can vary.
Oh-Jive.
Lol
O give? That’s a new one to me...
Skip the Hornady go to SAC you will thank me when you do.
👍
He's doing fine stop being a oh-jive turkey
AHHHHHH !!! its pronounced as "O-JIVE", not "O-GIVE".......good video, but annoying as hell each time you mispronounce the word. When TEACHING, ...proper pronunciation REALLY makes a difference in your credibility and student attention span.
You are correct, and I've been corrected about 100 times now. I'm now saying it the correct way! How embarrassing lol
please dont think I am being mean....I thoroughly enjoyed the video!!!! Think of my comment as good humored banter....in the Army, we always kidded around and would sharpshoot our buddies..... your good Bro !!!
dogtagx2 oh no, I didn’t take it that way at all. No worries..!
O GIVE him a break! :)
dogtagx2 yeah he lost me at o-give ! Lol.
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I made a video series on reloading 6.6 CM and got a lot of negative reviews in my part 6 video (seating) - ua-cam.com/video/x4PNP-4F0xQ/v-deo.html
I heard that the ELDs were very consistent, I couldn't be certain until I checked myself doing exactly what you just did in this video, I think most people are used to inconsistent tips from other bullet manufacturers, but Hornady ELD bullets are made very well. I have had reloading instructors disagree with me, which I can understand if they havent relaoded ELDs, but I think you and I know the truth. Good video man
"O-give"....😆😆😆😆
There is no give Young man its pronounced Jive Like A Jiggerr Jive OR Jive Bunny
O jive is how I hear most pronounce it. O give…. Like… give me some money…. Sounds like it’s spelled. Is this another dang Zerox spelled xerox!!!!! I would REALLY love to slap the person that first called it ZEROX AND SPELLED IT XEROX!!
It’s pronounced Oh-jive
It’s pronounced oh-jive not ogive look at angle measurement
Oh give him a break
O-"give"? No...O-"jive". C'mon.
O-Give is correct... but who gives a rat sass HOW it’s pronounced.
Haha, you couldn't be more wronger. 😜