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I just purchased this switch and a Dream Machine Pro today, and found this video to be very helpful in my research.
Great video. The best explanation I’ve seen yet on what the screen is capable of. Thank you.
I can’t wait to use these in my company’s
client deployments!! The touch screen will be a great tool for onsite quick
trouble shooting and being a great information resource.
Nice switch, was amazed at how clear and readable the little screen was. I think the screen would be very convenient. Many times you're working in a switch room and want to check something trivial like how much power a device is using, or some interface statistics e.g., data throughput and you have to SSH or console into a switch. Not that it is a big deal, but you have to get the laptop, plug into the appropriate port, boot up, login, etc. Then you run a command to get some basic data and logout, and then pack up your stuff. I think the little screen would be very helpful in those quick hit what's the interface doing scenarios.
I got this switch few days ago and I love it.
I have had my switch 3 days now and it works great
Which model.. how is the performance
Good to see yo are still around. I was washing your videos about 3-4 years ago.
Nice video as always but Ubiquiti is missing the point to not include mGig ports to support future WiFi6 WAPs
plain brown boxes are my fav, the best top end gear tends to come in them. my netgear i got a few years ago (it could have a go at this ubiq switch for sure!) came in a plain brown box too as have has other awesome gear.
I could be wrong, but I"m thinking that the reason they can get away with no fans is due to getting rid of 24v passive and fewer PoE ports. I don't have a 24 port here at the house, but my Gen1 16.150w has 16 ports of PoE and they support 24v, and of course it supports up to 150w of PoE. If I recall correctly, the new Gen2 only has 8 PoE, none of which support 24v passive, and only has a 32w PoE budget. Yeah, there's going to be some heat differences there. I am assuming there's something similar going on with the Gen1 24 port vs the Gen2 24 port.
gen 1 v gen 2 24 - drops from 250W to 120W and 24 poe+ to 16poe +. Thats why they can get away with fan-less.
Nice channel Chris! Thanks for this video. I'm in discovery mode now and working on a project to optimize my network. I've contacted a few contractors to come in to terminate the cables in my home network box to RJ45 which didn't come terminated and are a big messy cluster in my closet. In addition, I plan to reroute them to a rack and PoE switch. I also have a Synology DS1520+ and MyCloud EX2 Ultra servers operating as data storage. One of the objectives of my project is to add a private VPN so that I can access these servers and network devices remotely throuch L2TP instead of using the browser apps. Another objective is to add an Access Point AC Pro to take the place of my current eero mesh. But I'm a bit confused. One installer said that I need a 'Dream Machine Pro' + 'Switch 24 PoE' and another installer said that I only need the 'Switch 24 PoE'. Yet another said that, if I want VPN, I only need the 'Switch Pro 24 PoE'. Would you or any of your channel followers be provide input on the hardware I actually need to be able to meet my objectives and also setup a VPN on UniFi? How about any network or UniFi capabilities that I add/lose with either setup? I'd appreciate any input that you can share!
Nice demo...tks from Lisbon - Portugal
Obrigado!
So let me see if I got this right, the gen 1 version does 250w of Poe and he gen 2 does only 95w of Poe?
Yeah like WTF??? Right???
now why did Ubiquity eliminate the option of 24V passive, it seems like they should get better with their products, but it makes me wonder.
im glad i wateched this. i had the older gen 1 model on order .. cancelled and got the gen 2
we want 10 GbE because some of us (in other parts of the world anyway) have internet connections faster than gigabit ;-)
UDM-Pro to handle my 1,5 Gbit/s fiber would be perfect! Bell in Canada for 50$ USD approximately!
@ dang thats cheap! We're getting 2/2, 4/4 & 8/8 Gbps connections this year (synchronous!!!!!). Currently on 1000/500 but looking for more!
@ Where in the world do you pay that?!!? Here in MB for Bell Gigabit Fibe we pay $150 CAD.
@@DJEvergreen I know how to negotiate! We have 2 cellphones and base TV plan with a residential line. 74$ CAD for the Internet :p
Mikrotik has some really nicely priced options, better than UBNT (or anyone else for that matter), the managed versions have the option of a switch OS or router OS.
I want this version with all POE setup.
It would be nice to have 3-4 more 10GB connection added on this with POE so I can have a second network spilt off from the same switch.
Just checking your video as I'm now exceeding the power limit of my poe gen 2 16 port.
Probably sell my gen 2 16 to my buddy for 50% off and upgrade to this
The touch screen is useful, rack multi screen synchronization with the UDM-PRO.
Great they took their time to fiddle with the little screen even though everything is right there in the dashboard, but what is holding back the world when it comes to 10GbE? You'd think it'd be the next natural path of evolution, clearly 1/10/100Mbit came and went, but for some reason 1GbE is here to stay like a friggin wall. I guess if switches were CPUs I'd still have my 486-DX40 from the last ice age. What gives? Seriously interested.
if everything i have read is true, that little screen they are fiddling with will be linked to their new AR feature on these Switches.. ua-cam.com/video/kiexsTuwHEg/v-deo.html
All I want is layer 2 functionality, POE copper ports and one or two 10g SFP+ ports for $500. Is that too much to ask?
That's available but not from UBNT. Mikrotik :)
Hey Chris ! Love your videos (the ones with Pi Unifi controller helped me a lot!).
Cheers from Switzerland
I like a single line ports rather then a stack 12 ports.
Big up the 10Gb snobs, lol. But seriously.... Chris, can you explain a little about what the layer 2 part means in another video?
Layer 2 is the second layer of the OSI model. Layer 2 is also known as ‘Data Link’. Most network switches operate at Layer 2 (some at layer 3). The data link layer provides node to node data transfer (e.g. switch to computer)
Layer 2 is MAC switching only. Layer 3 is IP switching/routing. VLANs on Unifi layer 2 switches depend on the main router to do all the IP routing (USG, for example), Layer 3 can do the routing right on the switch. That's the VERY short version.
@@NT-no7py good answer. I have heard of the osi model, but never looked into it. I need to do some research.
@@tornadotj2059 sounds good, but a bit over my head. Still new to this stuff. But thank you for answering.
@@tornadotj2059 "depend on the main router to do all the IP switching".. So what does that mean exactly? Well let me rephrase, when a packet comes into the switch, the switch has to ask the router what to do? Or does the router figures out the Layer 3 routing, converts it to layer 2 and loads a table into the switch? Because you can't send all the traffic *through* the router or it would be a huge bottleneck.
I want to see a review on that QSFP nightmare! If anyone wants to give me the 2grand or whatever it runs to buy it I will happily review it NDA or not. LOL.
The USW-Pro-24-POE Gen 2 has become Vaporware/Un-obtainium. First Ubiquiti project and I am beginning to regret it.
And the MikroTik CRS328-24P-4S+RM is just about half the price.
Answering your final question: 100% gimmick. Cool but I really don't see that being useful, as most of the times we are not local to the switches we're managing. Would exchange that for best wattage on the new Gen2 switches, which dropped substantially from Gen1...
great video!
I think it’s just enough nerd bling to splurge and get one for my home network
Thanks for another great video! I'd love to see pong on the LCM. :-)
Haha - yea, or snake maybe.
The Switch for 379,99$ only has 95 W of PoE total available Power Budget :-(
Thank you, I am looking to purchase the a fanless 24 and 48 switch
The lack of 24V Passive won't work for us we use it for radios and cameras. The increased price is bad too. My 10-year-old Mikrotik Switch is calling and wants you to check out its LCD Touch screen. Once you have the equipment in a rack you won't ever use the screen, I rather just have an iPad out when checking things. We manage 30+ Unifi networks and a WISP network so more than your normal "home user".
Hey, that's cool, you're cool...
Very nice Chris
I like the touch screen. :)
It would be awesome for them to release a non-POE version of this switch. I love the gen2 functionality but don't want to pay for POE features I'm not going to use...yes, I'm a poor.
The total available wattage for POE is disappointing on these gen 2 poe switches
You got me. I'm a 10gb uplink snob.
Does this have enough poe power to cover 5 APs and 2 Cameras?
Yea I Don't see the need to buy Gen2 yet. The touch screen is whatever, and yea the fanless is nice but I'll stick with Gen1. I mainly use these to Power cameras, nanobeams, and prisms. Need the 24V and need all ports PoE. The Gen2 Pro though, like the 24 port which FINALLY has 10G SFP is nice, and the addition of 8 PoE ++ Is really nice too. That one i can see using for cameras, especially in some cases where i can use the PoE ++ and use the Flex Switch in remote areas.
How to configure the IP address on layer-2 Unifi switch more specifically for this model you are showing in the video.
The mini display and the fanless design is nice, but lets be real... i wouldnt upgrade from a gen1 just for these features.
Like the screen but it won't replace well established management stuff like tags for cables and ports any time soon. I am disappointed they reduced the wattage the gen 2 switches offer for Poe+.
If you label the port to a device name that is plugged in will it show up on the screen? Would be cool for diagnostics.
The touchscreen is a gimmick that I want - only for the looks. Realistically, if I'm trying to determine what is plugged into a port while I'm in the server room, I'm pulling up the Unifi App on my phone or iPad.
doesn't ubiquiti make a 802.11 af to passive 24v adapter?
Rather than an injector, couldn’t you us a Ubiqiti INS‑3AF‑I‑G?
Yes - they have an 802.3af to 24V passive adapter (not sure the model number...but probably what you are mentioning)
old video but I'm looking at these switches and finding it hard to find information on whether or not they support VLAN and VLAN trunking. In this video, I thought I saw configuration inputs in the GUI for what might be VLAN configuration.
Chris,
Great video!
When you're setting up this switch, if you're using default settings, are you getting the full download speed? I've had issues with my gen1 Unifi 24 port 500W POE switch. I had to enable flow control for me to get full speed download. Otherwise, during the test, I'd only get 40 Mbps.
Have you had a similar experience?
I dont really understrand why Ubiquiti have two series that are very similar Unifi and EdgeMax
Where did you get the under desk mount from?
Ok, so when is the new USG coming out?
ubiquiti layer 3 switch. where have i heard that before.........
worlds slowest layer 3 switch in existence (only $699)
@@Andrew_M_Ward for small business who's core focus is not data throughput that is not such a big deal.
@@Enonymouse_ / Sure... but you pay for bandwidth & speed if you can't take advantage of it the ISP doesn't credit you back... it's just lost / I'd rather have a proper enterprise grade switch and downgrade my ISP speed to save money than have an under performing switch and never actually know how my network is supposed to perform
Has any one heard any news about desktop models of Gen2 Switches or desktop model with 16 ports (with some PoE ports)?
camera by amcrest DC12V, PoE (802.3af)(Class 0) 6.5w
Only 16 out of the 24 ports on this switch have POE. And the total POE available is 95W. So for 24 6.5W POE cameras, you'd need the Pro version of this switch which is $699. store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/usw-pro-24-poe It has POE on all 24 ports and 400W total POE available.
I find it interesting that some of the Gen2s have some PoE ports and some nonPoE, but It makes sense! If it's just going to be an access switch, not everything is going to need PoE. Say if IP phones are in the mix, PCs will probably be plugged into the phones anyway so NonPoE devices won't take up PoE ports if the NonPoE ports are all used up. Cool switch, looking forward to seeing the other ones once they are released!
So apart from a tiny little screen which I can't see how you'll ever use it in the real world (anyone that thinks they will be very interested why) and the removal of some passive Poe (any more info on that, sounds like a very backwards step), what does the second generation actually do better than the first??? Looks potentially worse, don't get it, why bother?
Fanless for a start which is important to quite a few people that have these where it does matter. Also the updated internals/components which can most likely handle a little bit more and from what I know (could be worng of course) they plan to phase out the older ones so no updates at some stage after end of life. Passive POE would be nice to have but in all honesty anything decent now should not need it. I only have one LTE Router that needs it and the $20 Instant Converter does a sterling job. Do not like it any more than the next guy as it costs to switch over but thats the way it all works. They are a business and have to keep the money coming in and we are not going to change that unfortunately. I would have liked if they added $50 to the new switches and added L3 to them but I cannot see the in-between versions so maybe there is something there to fit the gap. Oh and with the screen, agree a gimmick but more useful being there than not. I can see its uses if you do not have a phone or laptop with you when at the switch.
Now we don't need to stick labels to the front anymore. Cleaner look.
You may still want to do that for faster sorting of what connection is what, the screen is a nice feature though.
Great video. I just purchased a Dream Machine Pro and I’m thinking about paring it with this switch. Before I buy, can you confirm it works with vlans? I have an iot netowrk along with my lan and want to be able to configure some of the ports to iot using the port profile setting.
Wonder if they plan to keep any in stock. They've been out since this video I think.
I was about to pull the trigger on a USW-24-250W but if those are GEN1 I'd hate to drop $375 for one now then have them be a close out at $200 tomorrow. 😥
MrPittsburghJ don’t think you will have to worry about that if it’s true the Poe power budget is only 95 watts.
Any new 10 GB?
Tntdruid 100G.
Probably a question you get a lot, what is the reason to use the EdgeRouter 4 over the UDM-PRO for you?
Hi.. sorry.. thanks for the video.. quick question.. where did you get those loops to the side of your switch, at 6:49? I'm trying to google them but have no idea what it would be called.
Could the touchscreen actually be a security risk? It lists Mac and IP info
Is it worth buying this beast today (as of May 2021) or shall we wait for next gen? I can already see some enterprise 2.5G switches popping out...
Disappointed that only 16 ports are POE and lower power budget. The gen 1 has POE on all 24 ports with a much more generous 250watt budget.
Do they let you add non-consecutive ports to a LAG now? I could see those non-POE ports working great in a LAG with a POE port for the access points that have that capability. However, in the past Unifi requires the ports to be consecutive to be added to a LAG.
Dale city pound looks great on the switch I like the switch. my question and I can't get a clear answer from anybody is how do you Kaskade multiple switches together in a stack? I recently used a pro 4 and separated two switches one on each Network and then connected the internet. Its working fine. I wish I could have set up a cascade configuration. It would have been a better solution.
I'm super confused on the PoE standards. Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks to me like an Unifi 24 port POE switch doesn't even support the proper PoE to power THEIR OWN Wifi 6 Access Points?
hello, i have 24 PoE camera can u power them with this Switch?
doesnt do 24V PoE
It might be more useful in a production environment if they fitted it with a larger lcd display, it's display looks no bigger than a smart watch display and since we can check everything via web admin on today's managed products is there a need for such a display on a front panel when the switches typically are in a switch cabinet far away from the I.T team in your server room etc... The price doesn't justify the LCD they should drop the LCD off the unit.
Do you think they will release more led products? I think it would be really cool if they made can lights or maybe a 2 by 4 panel
I don’t have any insight into that.
how to multi port vlan configuration
Hello.
we thank you for good videos, a short question
Is it possible to administer the Ubiquiti USW-PRO-24 in any software without a Dream Machine or similar hub for incoming internet.
Am in the phase of learning how Ubiquiti works and the only place I find to ask questions about Ubiquiti products is youtube.
we thank you in advance and warm greetings from Sweden
Thanks for the video. I learned a few tips. I NEED HELP: I purchased the USW-Pro 24 PoE to replace an 8-port managed switch. I also purchased the UAP-AC-HD-US to improve the WiFi at home and the UCK-G2-Plus for management. I did not purchased the gateway though. I have 1GB Fios connection at home. I want to connect the USW-Pro 24 PoE switch behind the Fios router so I can create separate networks for labs I am running for my customers. I noticed that when connecting the switch to the Fios router, the cable boxes stop working but if I disconnect the switch from the Fios router, the cable boxes start working again. I am not sure what feature in the switch is causing the issue .Any ideas or recommendations how to fix this problem?
Silly question from non-networking guy. I am looking for a solution to connect 3 floors in single house for decent speeds - ideally 500Mbps. I have two Ubiquiti AP Pro access points and two Unifi 8 port switches (4 + 4 POE). Should I find a way to route a cable to connect the switches and then hook up the APs for wireless clients or should I go the other way (if that's even possible) - connect one AP Pro to Unifi Switch (that connects to ISP) and other AP just to power and bridge them "wirelessly"? Since I have another switch left over I could then use that to connect to "wireless" AP's second LAN port to get data to wired devices around. Or is my logic way off here?
Hi,Wire distance and terminal equipment expansion (usw-flex), USW-24-POE or US-24-250W?
Do they have any special deals during Black Friday o cyber Monday ?
Question!: Debating one of these (24p) vs the Pro (feat. 10Gbe SFP+ uplinks). Family home situation, 3 kids. If I should add a 10 Gbe US-16-XG later on (placed between the 24p and the router), will the 1Gbe uplink going to be a bottleneck?
We can create VLANs in UniFi switches ??
What voltage does this switch use 100 / 240 I live overseas not in the States, thanks in advance
Not sure I understand the utility of the 1GB SFP Ports compared to simply using a 1GB classical Port for linking to an other switch or going back to a Security gateway? Any arguments for the SFP's. 10G SFP is clear to me from a benefit point of view?
SFP allows for fiber which will give you the ability to run the link further.
@@JeffreyGordonTheTank ok didn't think about this use case 👌
can't figure out the benefit of the gen2 over gen1. gen1 24 port poe switch has 24 poe ports, and this gen2 only has 16.
Have they improved the internal PSUs? The previous generation's have a nasty habit of failing, mostly just outside of warranty. Ripped them all out.
Agreed, same thing happened to my client, no replacement power supplies available and Ubiquiti offered no repair support "paid or otherwise" never again.
I haven't had any of these in production yet (too new), so I don't have an answer for you unfortunately.
Is there a guide how to install this switch if I have a old (non ubiquiti) switch in my system today?
So this is just layer 2 right? I don't need a managed switch. All I really need is the ability to have POE to power a few raspberry pis and some WiFi access points. Will this get the job done?
The touch screen is awesome. I would like to quickly see what hostnames are attached to a port, i didn't see that here, is that possible?
What I didn't like is that now only some of the ports are POE. I mean sure, i don't need all ports to be POE but it was nice to be able to organize however i want. Now I'd need to organize based on POE requirement. But I only have 1 installation so it's not like it would be problem, but it is a downgrade in that regard.
Ohh and I really like that it is passive.
And I'm really curious how they handle layer 3 switching... and am a little confused since the GEN 1 switches were based on edge switches which are already capable of layer 3 switching i believe. I thought it was just a software limitation.
You can't see which hostnames are attached to the wired ports via the touchscreen.
where do you get the under the desk 1u rack?
I posted a link to it on Twitter: @CrosstalkSol
Crosstalk Solutions so you are giving me the ‘bird’?
“Bro I’m emailing to tell you I sent you the info in chat.”
Newb question.... Can I plug a non PoE device in a poe port and be OK?
Yes - no problem. 802.3af/at auto senses power needs.
Unfortunately POE budget is much lower than gen1. I am not sure this is the right way. :(
So do I understand that Ubiquiti is going away from passive POE on their switches? I don't want to risk roasting my computer when I plug it in.
3:09 I see Mr. Dog.
That's George.
So will this switch run the UAP-AC-HD-US?
Can anyone tell me which models are in the early access? So I know what to expect in the future?
Go sign up for an account at ui.com. Anyone can get one and get access to the early access store.
@@SMor42 That is not true as far as I know. Early access is for the USA only.
Why there are 1G SFP Ports? Whats the advantage of SFP 1G Ports over RJ45 1G Ports?
Fiber
Gen2 USG incoming?
man i had to give up and build an untangle box. plus i can run SQM at full speed up and down.
cdoublejj What's your bandwidth?
@@itsathejoey soon-ish 500/500 or 1g/1g if the local roll out actually happens
@@cdoublejj I might have to look at doing that . What's your box specs?
@@itsathejoey i went overkill on a budget. I3 8100T, itx mobo used off eBay, super micro 1U chassis, 4gb ddr4 ram and I think a 32gb SSD. That i3 is no slouch the idea is to run full speed SQM and VPN among a few add-ons eventually but, to do so at 1gbps up AND down which ubiq could never ever do requires some horse power I think I spent $307 all in not including the $50 for the FULL home version of untangle (same as full Enterprise)
maybe a dumb question: can you mix these gen2 into your existing gen1 switches and cloudkey gen2 deployment?
Yes
Can I do VLAN or SVLAN on the UniFi Switch 16 PoE?
Can this switch do vlans?
hi cris
I would like to know if ubiquiti has a switch with reverse POE technology?.
Thank you
You mean switches powered by POE? They have the Unifi Switch 8, Unifi Switch Flex, and Unifi Switch Flex Mini.