Dean Park Model Railway | January 2023 Update | New Office Build

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  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer Рік тому +1

    The only thing you left out of the office was...oh...nothing. Its amazing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Haha. Oh there was more I’d love to add, such as phones, wall sockets, a wasp in the window etc… but they would just be too small and pointless.

  • @malcolmmyatt9092
    @malcolmmyatt9092 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic work and the new loco. Thank you for sharing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @RobertJackman
    @RobertJackman Рік тому +1

    In the 80's and 90's I was using a monitor connected to a remote mini-computer from my office. It's not impossible that BR stations were also connected.

  • @cyberleaderandy1
    @cyberleaderandy1 Рік тому

    Really cool office build 😊. I was an aerospace engineering apprentice in 1981 and saw all the computers like those introduced. Tektronix and Commodore PETs were what we had but probably one to an office ( until the 90s) with cassette tapes or huge floppy discs and with fax machine's instead of emails 🙂

  • @wild_rover2648
    @wild_rover2648 Рік тому +1

    stunning work

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +2

      Many thanks. I’m really pleased with the latest project and how it went.

  • @cedarcam
    @cedarcam Рік тому

    Great to see you added the better office detail, thats the kind of thing I like to do in buildings as well and does make them look a lot better at night. I have used some Preiser phones from an office set, they are tiny and hardly visible through a window. Glad to see the signal aspect is now correct as well.

  • @neilflood6508
    @neilflood6508 Рік тому +4

    Impressive detail in your office building. It does lack one thing, an area dedicated to toilet facilities.

    • @modelrailroader5619
      @modelrailroader5619 Рік тому +2

      That’s all I could think about!😂😂😂

    • @markcharlebois7129
      @markcharlebois7129 Рік тому

      Lawn fertilizer! How do you think David gets his grass so green?! All he requirs is about half a dozen 3d printed characters dropping trousers along the layout

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +2

      It’s in the back office part. The part No one can see in.

    • @roystudds1944
      @roystudds1944 Рік тому

      Great answer!

  • @kerdazproductions4606
    @kerdazproductions4606 Рік тому +2

    Hi Dave
    As always well done and inspiring
    As a Signalling engineer I am always interested in peoples understanding and application of signalling. During the 1980s I was in charge of a apprentice signalling training centre in Australia which was set up with the assistance of a Signalling engineer who ran a signalling training school in the UK. A couple of things of note often the facilities are not well funded so the facilities can be very basic as you mentioned. However we had a 1 x 486 PC a typewriter, printer and simple photocopier. The computers you have used appear to be IBM CPM type machines.
    The facilities we had included a workshop, kitchen area, class room signalling control / equipment room, bathroom and an area for the apprentices to eat there lunch.
    The staff had a small office are with 3 desks and swivel chairs One desk had the computer which was used to prepare course training materials. A cabinet with the photocopier on it room filing cabinet and storage shelf.
    In relation to the drawing board they are usually not as upright as the one you have chosen as the designer would sit at a drafting desk on a stool.
    As a side note much of the signalling here in Australia is based on what occurs in the UK with some variation for for local requirements. ie following the lead of the UK and Europe including signalling systems, track side equipment and standards.. The IRSE website is a good source of reference to signalling in the UK. There are also some good UA-cam videos available.
    Keep up the great work
    Kind Regards

  • @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932

    Excellent Dave, you always set a fantastically high standard in your layout.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers. I do like to try get it to a good standard:l :-)

  • @roystudds1944
    @roystudds1944 Рік тому +1

    Great video Dave. That office looks absolutely brilliant now. Really motivating me to get on with my layout now. Thanks for sharing. Roy.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Roy. Yeah get building 😆 Dave

  • @davidstokes8441
    @davidstokes8441 Рік тому

    When I was the "new Boy" in the central division of the government department I worked in there was one IBM computer and 13 staff. I was the only one who knew how to operate it, and I used it to write my reports on. These reports though were given to the "office dragon and drug (coffee) pusher and she, bless her heart, typed them out on a Remington manual typewriter because that is how the Director expected them to be. From memory that was the only computer until 1990 when two more arrived. You have captured the feel really well.

  • @gregoryhale2202
    @gregoryhale2202 Рік тому +1

    Hi Dave, really enjoyed this video. The New Office Build was absolutely fantastic. Congrats. Cheers Greg

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Greg. It was a good project to do over the Christmas period when it was very cold outside and the loft was not very warm either!

  • @ModelRailway
    @ModelRailway Рік тому +4

    Enjoyable update … a good mix of projects … and yeah, a bit chilly recently to enjoy lofts/sheds comfortably! Glad you were able to improve the siding signal as well, looks good and the Heathcote boards are pretty versatile and well designed 👍

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      They are excellent boards. And as you say, very versatile. :-) cheers

  • @MrVinnyh
    @MrVinnyh Рік тому +2

    Hi Dave, enjoyed the update, seeing the figures made me recall you saying about lack of drivers from Bachmann, I have just purchased some 3d printed from Smart Models, they do both modern and 1980's style 5 for a fiver

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Yes I’m going to look into drivers for the new bachmann models. They need something.

  • @goldenknight578
    @goldenknight578 Рік тому +1

    The office looks great and really takes me back to the era. The only thing I might add would be a small framed photo on one of the desks of the worker's family/spouse/dog.

    • @1tonyboat
      @1tonyboat Рік тому +1

      And a few Mayfair Mags 😂😂

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Might be too small. But good idea.

  • @baffiehalt3383
    @baffiehalt3383 Рік тому

    As always fantastic attention to detail - congratulations! Just one wee thing… you said of the naming of the Class 37 Mary Queen of Scots “in Linlithgow of all places” - I think credit and congratulations to Scotrail are due for that one - a nice touch from them as it was in Linlithgow Palace where Mary was born!
    👑 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🤓👍

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Yes indeed. But very unusual for scotrail to stray from Edinburgh, Dundee or Glasgow for naming ceremonies.

  • @warwickroadmodelrailway
    @warwickroadmodelrailway Рік тому +2

    Hi Dave, really great update, telecommunications centre with its interior looks amazing, I admire your attention to detail. All the best David

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers. I do enjoy adding tiny details. I relaxing way to spend a few evenings.

  • @johnthompson2772
    @johnthompson2772 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video as per normal Dave. Your attention to detail is a credit to you. I try to emulate this myself but I’m not to your standard I’m afraid !
    Just a note on the Class 37 you introduced. It could be an optical illusion , but is the ‘401’ not straight in line with the prefix 37?
    It looks off set to me which would bug me. Especially with the price tag for the deluxe version.
    Keep the videos coming !

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Hi, thanks for watching and I’m really chuffed you enjoyed it. With the 37, it’s an illusion thankfully lol. But I’ll check it again just to make sure. :-)
      Bachmann have history of researching the model so closely and if the loco has a larger or small number or tiny alteration it would appear on the model.
      Cheers
      Dave

  • @FrustratedApe
    @FrustratedApe 3 місяці тому

    Just studying this now as I am building some office buildings, absolutely fantastic work Dave. I work in IT but my era is before mainstream computers so I am also thinking of modelling some VDU's attached to a mainframe. I think that larger machine that you have on a desk could be a Telex machine? I'm also considering orange carpets like the old RBS building in Kirkcaldy High Street!

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  3 місяці тому

      Cheers! Glad you like it. A organs carpet is essential for pre 1980’s offices! Scale model scenery do printed carpet tile sheets that I used on my office. They do an orange option!

  • @clippermuso
    @clippermuso Рік тому +1

    Astonishing bit of work on the office interior. Looks fantastic.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. I enjoyed working on this scene.

  • @davidparry1968
    @davidparry1968 Рік тому +1

    Love the 1st video of ‘23. If I’m not mistaken, the computers look very much like Commodores with the 3 1/2” floppy disk drive. Now that’s aged me a bit.

    • @goldenknight578
      @goldenknight578 Рік тому +1

      I kept thinking that there should be a small pile of 3 1/2" floppies lying nearby one of the computers. That takes me way back.

    • @1tonyboat
      @1tonyboat Рік тому +1

      Still using those computers where I work !!!!!😂😂

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Haha. They certainly ain’t running windows 95 that’s for sure!

  • @martinjones5353
    @martinjones5353 Рік тому

    Another great update at Dean Park.

  • @georgethomas7814
    @georgethomas7814 Рік тому +2

    Your modelling skills are brilliant, and the level of modeling is exceptional.
    Oh you forgot the plants at the door and that one lady that had one on her desk.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers. Funnily enough I’m looking for suitable pot plants in that gauge :-)

    • @georgethomas7814
      @georgethomas7814 Рік тому +2

      @@DeanPark make the base with 1/3 of the dust bin/44g drums you can get. Add toothpick. Add green shrub. With a very fine brush dab white/pink/red on the very ends of some of the leafage. Practise you have three pot planters per drum. leftover toothpicks from gluing or other modelling activity. painting on flowers is optional but can be brilliant highlight to a very plain building.

  • @ThePhosphater
    @ThePhosphater Рік тому +1

    Great looking Office, love the detail. Think you could do with some radiators on the walls, to keep people warm.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Looking into that. Not sure who makes them.

  • @ewoodrailway
    @ewoodrailway Рік тому

    That interior brings the building to life and that 37s a stunning addition

  • @andrewstevenson5449
    @andrewstevenson5449 Рік тому

    Great work all round. Have to admit that I'm a bit surprised that a British Rail Office was so hi-tech in the late 80s/early 90s. I guess BR were trialling computers at Dean Park
    Also, have to say, I'm not sure about the lighting colour: fluorescent tubes have always seemed to me a bit of a cold, greeny-blue light, while it's the street lights that were orange. It was only about three years ago they replaced the orangey street lights in my road with bright white LEDs!
    Those figures really are streaks ahead of what used to be available, aren't they?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      I’m trying to convey and office transitioning to computers, hence there aren’t many. The led one is one of choice as the led without the lightest of yellow painted on them were too pinky.
      The figures are very very good. I’d recommend these and those from modelu.

  • @barryturner2916
    @barryturner2916 Рік тому

    Hi Dave the idea, design and build of the office area has in my opinion planted a few seeds for your subscribers I for one will be looking at the interior for the building next to my engine shed - thanks. As always its a pleasure to watch your video's many thanks for sharing, stay safe regards Barry..

  • @onnomulder9775
    @onnomulder9775 Рік тому

    Awesome video Dave!! Well done! Very nice loco by the way!! Cheers Onno.

  • @deansweeney8203
    @deansweeney8203 Рік тому

    As always another great update especially like the class 37 look forward to the next one

  • @ChrisMarshallUS
    @ChrisMarshallUS Рік тому +1

    That office layout is so cool, and wow do you have some patience sticking all those small pieces to make it more realistic.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      According to my wife I’m the least patient person she knows lol.

  • @rebeccarouse7776
    @rebeccarouse7776 Рік тому +1

    Looks great! Unless I missed it during the video of all the details then it would seem like it's a telecommunications office with no phones? Just a tiny detail, literally with how small I imagine they would be.
    Fantastic work.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Hi, yes good point. They are so tiny though you can’t see the detail.

  • @mels1811
    @mels1811 Рік тому

    Excellent train layout

  • @MarchWestJunctionTMD
    @MarchWestJunctionTMD Рік тому

    Fantastic David 👍 absolutely brilliant very inspirational and has given me some ideas to add to my layout. Thank you for sharing.
    Keep safe and well my friend
    Andy

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +2

      Cheers. Really glad it’s being well received by people watching itz

  • @trainmanbob
    @trainmanbob Рік тому +1

    Beautiful detail as always Dave in the building. Perhaps if one was to be a bit pedantic, some plug sockets and mains leads to the computers? Mains leads can be easily made from strands from multicore cable, brushed in grey or black matt paint and then dipped in superglue.
    Cheers, Bob

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +2

      I am not sure my eyes and tweezers could handle those single strands 😆

  • @lapiswake6583
    @lapiswake6583 Рік тому

    The office looks fantastic. The only thing I'd change is to add more lights that are dimmer, so it doesn't look as patchy in the day, and I'd probably make the outside lights look less like LEDs too.
    I have 37430 in the latest bachmann tooling, since Bachmann hasn't done that loco before, and it's nice, although from a distance it isn't much better than the previous 21-pin release (which was probably about the same step up from the original 8-pin release). I haven't given it a proper run because I am no longer living with my parents so don't have access to Ashbrooke Central, and I don't have space for a layout until we buy our current flat (then I'll need a loft ladder, a wider loft hatch, the loft boarding out and insulating before I can make a start up there. The garage also needs an electric supply and insulating if i'm gonna do stuff in there too), but I do know it runs quietly and smoothly, having run it in at club. I have 2 8-pin and 8 21-pin bachmann 37/4s atm as well as the new 430, with the accurascale 37423 (with WIPACs, unlike bachmann's new model which is of it before it became unique) on order. I also have a split and centre box /0, an ex-split box and a centre box /5, an ex-split box /7, and 905 from bachmann, all 21-pin, as well as 37610 and 97301 on order from Accurascale, but there's several more variants I want to order (025, 099, an ex-split box /6, a centre box /7, 906, and the other 3 97/3s) at some point.
    It looks like the white lights come on before the green changes to red, and the signal should always change to danger before it gives a different proceed aspect. However, given your explanation of the adaption, I don't think this can be further improved upon.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      The signal chance is as good as it can be. Due to the complex nature of the signalling and heathcote board there is nothing more I can do. Getting it to work like this required a lot of thought. Glad it works now.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Рік тому

      @@DeanPark I guess the signal can be set to red at any time so to get round that could you set it to red change the point then set it to green again which would because the points are now changed show the white lights.

  • @NicholassTrainChannel
    @NicholassTrainChannel Рік тому

    Nice update Dave. Amazing job on the office interior the attention to detail is just extraordinary. - Nicholas.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers :-) I do like adding the details.

  • @Enviro4000
    @Enviro4000 Рік тому

    Very impressive, one thought, if it's 1980s era, would the street lights be orange light rather than white.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      I’m considering that too. :-)

  • @garrylennox25
    @garrylennox25 Рік тому

    It would be nice to see a pan around the room to give an idea of the space and progress etc please. Thankyou

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Previous videos I’ve don’t shots from one end looking along the whole layout. I usually do it in my layout tours. Or cab ride videos

  • @modelrailroader5619
    @modelrailroader5619 Рік тому

    Very nice detailing in the office complex. If l was employed there I might be inclined to quit given the lack of restroom facilities!🥴😁

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      That’s in the back office lol

  • @duncancampbell452
    @duncancampbell452 Рік тому

    The class 37 from bachmann looks good I've got class 37685 intercity colours got that a few years ago worth looking into purchasing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Ah I’ve got that. Looks lovely in swallow livery doesn’t it.

  • @diesel1395
    @diesel1395 Рік тому

    Nice video ,37401 looks very smart . Hopefully Bachmann will be releasing more class 37s this year .😊

  • @alpetterson9452
    @alpetterson9452 Рік тому

    Wow!!!!!!

  • @eliotheasman5378
    @eliotheasman5378 Рік тому

    Brilliant keep up good work

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Many thanks. Glad you liked it.

  • @mickedgeleyparkstation5391
    @mickedgeleyparkstation5391 Рік тому

    Some great work and update.👍

  • @alastairwilson457
    @alastairwilson457 Рік тому

    Great update Dave

  • @garylong7599
    @garylong7599 Рік тому

    Dave have you seen the film “the navigators”? This is set in 1995 during privatisation and includes internal scenes of a BR depot you will be surprised how basic it was. When I did my first PTS course this was at Euston and they had a track section on the roof there was a classroom setup,with plain desks for the remainder of the training course which then utilised the track section outside

  • @simonbradshaw3708
    @simonbradshaw3708 Рік тому

    Thank you for another informative and interesting video, the office detail looks very good. I'm looking forward to seeing a comparison between Accurascale and Bachmann class 37 models. Will diesel smoke be the next thing to be included in a model like the class 55 prototype from Hornby?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Thanks. Yes I look forward to seeing the accurascale 37 too! Not sure about the point in smoke. Difficult to get it to look right…a lot of fumes came out of these locos. To make it authentic you’d be setting off your house smoke alarms! :-)

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Рік тому

    Great update here Dave, some great work on the office building, you certainly like the new tool 37 from bachmann, I’m still wanting to pick up the Cwmbran version, keep up the good work.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Cheers. Hope you like your 37 when you get it. Lovely models.

  • @hirsutusi5536
    @hirsutusi5536 Рік тому +1

    You need to add some private transport outside the telecomm office building unless those guys use company cars to go to and from home. Otherwise nice office setup.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. Look at 2.00 minutes in the video. There are some workers cars :-) I like to shuffle them around during the video.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Рік тому

      @@DeanPark A lot of trainees would come by train in those days. BR provided a minibus to take them from the station to the school or you used public transport to get there like from Waverley to Slateford school, so not seeing many cars parked is quite correct.

  • @paulflyer8891
    @paulflyer8891 Рік тому

    Hi Dave, as always a very informative video. I was interested in your signalling update because I have noticed several discrepancies in your signalling, but thought you weren't too bothered about them. However, having heard what you said in this video I can help you out if you wish. Just so as you have context, I'm coming from 26 years train driving experience and 3 years in a senior signalling grade. Always happy to help if you want it, as the amount of good advice you have given me in scenic and electrical matters has been invaluable.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Cheers. Signalling a layout is a challenge, there are compromises due to space and sometimes accuracy can suffer very slightly.

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 Рік тому

    You forgot the half eaten box of doughnuts in the office lol ;)

  • @ClydebridgeStation
    @ClydebridgeStation Рік тому

    Great updates Dave, as ever! The retaining wall will look great. 37401 later had its number moved from the bottom to below the cab window, and had them white. 37409 Loch Awe was the first 37/4 to receive the white number style. However, I didn't think 37401 moved to Cardiff Canton in 1989, as according to Locomotives and Coaching Stock 1990, it was still an Eastfield machine, in the FGTE pool. I do know 37407/8/22 were moved to Cardiff on 24th January 1989. But it's a fine machine, alas, as it's a 37, it won't be able to appear at Clydebridge!

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      I got my information from a record of the loco movements during its operational life.

  •  Рік тому

    Great video as usual. 😃👍

  • @jamesphillips1006
    @jamesphillips1006 Рік тому

    More excellent work Dave. Could I ask how you cut the tunnel portal arch?! Cheers

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      I’ve a mate who’s got a small desktop laser cutter, about an a3 size one. I bribe him with sweets and beer!

    • @jamesphillips1006
      @jamesphillips1006 Рік тому

      That would explain the perfect arch!

  • @alness1289
    @alness1289 Рік тому +1

    How about a video on the new H M7000 Does it interest you ?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      I can’t do a video on something I don’t have. Or don’t intend getting. I have a full Esu System, and I’m not intending moving back to hornby for layout control.

  • @doogs126
    @doogs126 Рік тому

    Great update as always. What rating of resistors did you use on the signalling centre? You should check out Hardys Hobbies for 3D printed figures, they do all sorts including diesel loco crews.

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 Рік тому

    I don't think any of my current buildings have windows big enough to warrant interiors as detailed as that, but it's looking good. The amount and variety of 3D printed stuff is staggering now. However, I haven't been tempted into buying a printer myself. Not keen on the chemicals and I don't have the design/computer skills! I'm quite happy to pay for someone elses skills

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Not for a 3D printer either. I’ll leave it to those with more skill and time on their hands to do that stuff for me :-)

  • @chapelhousemodelrailway1700

    Really like the office furniture-makes a lot of difference. Cheers Mike.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      It certainly does. Amazing what 3D printers can do!

  • @anitasuejones4793
    @anitasuejones4793 Рік тому

    Hi Dave another great update. I must of missed something from a previous video. Where is the tunnel portal situated? Are you going to ModelRail Scotland this year?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      At the incline at the west end of the layout. :-)

  • @simonsummers9194
    @simonsummers9194 Рік тому +1

    Hiya,may i ask where you got the yellow comma vans from please as been looking and cant seem to find them. Thanks

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Hi. They are an Oxford diecast van. Good luck finding them, I’ve been trying too…sold out everywhere :-(

  • @brianperrie3960
    @brianperrie3960 Рік тому

    Hi Dave. Are you exhibiting Dean Park at Model Rail Scotland this year? I was at last year`s but I don`t remember seeing your layout.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      It’s not an exhibition layout. It’s permanently built in my attic. Cheers.

  • @richardandrews6754
    @richardandrews6754 Рік тому

    I like the music goes perfectly with a spot of primer spraying! who is the guitarist?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +1

      Just a bit of music from UA-cam music library. This one was called ‘morning stroll’

    • @richardandrews6754
      @richardandrews6754 Рік тому

      @@DeanPark that was quick only just getting to the end of your video. Excellent as always. the office looks much better

  • @JB-ek4yx
    @JB-ek4yx Рік тому

    80s office chairs didn't have features like lumbar support or back & height adjustment because RSI wasn't invented yet! 😆

  • @claptnei
    @claptnei Рік тому

    Hello Dave, are the buildings kit or scratch built?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      They are from scalescenes range but adapted for my own use.

  • @thelibrarian46
    @thelibrarian46 Рік тому

    Is there somewhere for the apprentices to sit and have their sandwiches at lunchtime at the signal center?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      Yes that’s in the area to the left, where it can’t be seen through the windows… I decided not to detail it all in that area as you can’t see it and it would be using up (not cheap) 3D printed items :-)

  • @Jack-bf1dv
    @Jack-bf1dv Рік тому +2

    Do you own any steam engine models?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому +2

      Yeah a few A4’s and an A3 flying Scotsman.

  • @TheSonofruss
    @TheSonofruss Рік тому

    They generally put in marbles In spray cans

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Рік тому

      I thought they would have a chance of chipping or cracking.

    • @TheSonofruss
      @TheSonofruss Рік тому

      @@DeanPark I have taken a few apart and found glass marbles in the cans I have no idea what kind of glass they use though