Centrifugal force is absolutely a real force. It's a force in an accelerated frame of reference. Tell me how you would measure centrifugal force in a way you could tell it's not "real" whatever that means.
@@DanilegoPlays Yes, I understand. But it's certainly a force in the accelerated frame of reference. 🙂 I mean, in Newtonian physics, it's as much a force as Gravity is.
TL,DR: You need to create lift in order to, well, lift. Your arms have too smal surface area to create enough lift for your body. To create enough lift, you need to rotate really fast. You can't because air resistance. If you do somehow rotate fast enough to create lift - once you take off the ground, you'll have no way to rotate further, since you don't produce any thrust or can't push yourself off things to rotate on them.
@chaosenforcerdhm969 pretty sure that's how rockets work, creating pressure with hot gas and releasing it through the thrusters to move the ship, at least with my limited knowledge
@ I was referring to a rocket ship that would have used nukes explosions as the way to propel its self up I also don’t know the definition of explosion so I didn’t realize that and also don’t know how rockets work scientifically
Well, here is something. In a Tom and Jerry cartoon, Tom got a wooden plank stuck on his neck, and when Jerry spun it, it caused the plank to act like a helicopter blade, causing Tom to fly into the sky, and then as Tom falls, he uses the plank like airplane wings. Another way to reach space is by Jules Verne style, where the astronauts are launched from a giant gun, but that doesn't work as that would inflict TREMENDOUS amounts of G-forces, which kills the astronauts upon launch.
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You've failed to identify any real challenges, just moderate ones at best. They're not generating vacuums for plasmas, they just need one good enough for air resistance which is extremely straightforward. I would surmise it's possible to do with stuff you can get at Home Depot. Energy is a concern, but it's not as if rocket launches are any much more efficient. The rocket needs to sustain centrifugal forces, but we have guided munitions that we fire out of artillery cannons regularly. This does lock out liquid propellants, but solid propellants exist and so you'd need to go into extreme detail to debunk it (and the answer is "maybe, it depends on the assumptions you make"). You can get around a lot of the atmospheric problems by launching at a higher altitude where the air's thinner. You're limited to a handful of launch locations, but it's not impossible. The much, much, MUCH bigger problem that most people miss is a very simple one that's the basis of every rocket: conservation of momentum. For something to go forward, something else MUST go backward. So the moment the payload is released, something else needs to go in the opposite direction. For normal Earth-based propulsion, this is the ground. Problem: you cannot dissipate a literal entire rocket launch into the ground in an instant. So how did the Spin Launch demonstrators they put out a few years ago do it? By releasing a counterweight in the opposite direction (ie. into the ground). That's fine for a low speed launch, utterly unviable for a literal hypersonic projectile.
Then our upper torso would have to be able to rotate independently
Maybe a big, very long railcannon could shoot objects into space.
And yet Wikipedia says the the company has raised $150 million in funding. I guess it won't work but a lot of people must think it's possible.
Isn't the idea you are spinning yourself to fly, not a rocket?
Centrifugal force is absolutely a real force. It's a force in an accelerated frame of reference. Tell me how you would measure centrifugal force in a way you could tell it's not "real" whatever that means.
I believe people say it's not a "real force" because from an outside perspective it's just inertia
@@DanilegoPlays Yes, I understand. But it's certainly a force in the accelerated frame of reference. 🙂
I mean, in Newtonian physics, it's as much a force as Gravity is.
TL,DR:
You need to create lift in order to, well, lift. Your arms have too smal surface area to create enough lift for your body.
To create enough lift, you need to rotate really fast. You can't because air resistance.
If you do somehow rotate fast enough to create lift - once you take off the ground, you'll have no way to rotate further, since you don't produce any thrust or can't push yourself off things to rotate on them.
so much energy that it's easier to essentially create constant explosions under the rocket that propel it upward
That’s actually a real rocket concept
@chaosenforcerdhm969 pretty sure that's how rockets work, creating pressure with hot gas and releasing it through the thrusters to move the ship, at least with my limited knowledge
@ I was referring to a rocket ship that would have used nukes explosions as the way to propel its self up
I also don’t know the definition of explosion so I didn’t realize that and also don’t know how rockets work scientifically
@chaosenforcerdhm969 understandable
so why doesn't it work? you didn't explain anything, you just say "it dumb"
So it is possible, its just too hard to do it right now
Well, here is something. In a Tom and Jerry cartoon, Tom got a wooden plank stuck on his neck, and when Jerry spun it, it caused the plank to act like a helicopter blade, causing Tom to fly into the sky, and then as Tom falls, he uses the plank like airplane wings. Another way to reach space is by Jules Verne style, where the astronauts are launched from a giant gun, but that doesn't work as that would inflict TREMENDOUS amounts of G-forces, which kills the astronauts upon launch.
2:16 to be fair traditional rockets use a lot of energy too
okay but what if I spun _really_ fast?
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two hundred four quattuortrigintillion,
one hundred twenty trestrigintillion,
eight hundred ninety-four duotrigintillion,
four hundred four untrigintillion,
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nine hundred ten novemvigintillion,
one hundred thirty octovigintillion,
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one hundred eleven sexvigintillion,
thirty-nine quinvigintillion,
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forty-five billion, three hundred thirty three million
and one *RPM*
You've failed to identify any real challenges, just moderate ones at best. They're not generating vacuums for plasmas, they just need one good enough for air resistance which is extremely straightforward. I would surmise it's possible to do with stuff you can get at Home Depot. Energy is a concern, but it's not as if rocket launches are any much more efficient. The rocket needs to sustain centrifugal forces, but we have guided munitions that we fire out of artillery cannons regularly. This does lock out liquid propellants, but solid propellants exist and so you'd need to go into extreme detail to debunk it (and the answer is "maybe, it depends on the assumptions you make"). You can get around a lot of the atmospheric problems by launching at a higher altitude where the air's thinner. You're limited to a handful of launch locations, but it's not impossible.
The much, much, MUCH bigger problem that most people miss is a very simple one that's the basis of every rocket: conservation of momentum. For something to go forward, something else MUST go backward. So the moment the payload is released, something else needs to go in the opposite direction. For normal Earth-based propulsion, this is the ground. Problem: you cannot dissipate a literal entire rocket launch into the ground in an instant. So how did the Spin Launch demonstrators they put out a few years ago do it? By releasing a counterweight in the opposite direction (ie. into the ground). That's fine for a low speed launch, utterly unviable for a literal hypersonic projectile.
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