I feel the same as you. Anyone who has had a handful of real fights can’t be deceived by unrealistic theories and techniques that will not work in combat. Given the fact that Motobu’s preferred method of training was to regularly visit the red light district and pick fights with powerful looking opponents, he obviously gained a lot of real-world experience in the practical application of his art. It shines through in his writings, and I take everything he says to heart.
There are still many karate masters who have never fought, or in other words, cannot fight. That is OK if we interpret karate as a traditional art. But if karate is a martial art, then it is important to actually fight. We must learn from the words of those who have actually fought.
Osu sensei.. I have seen lots of your videos and have always ticked the like box. Forgive me if you have answered this with a video, with your experience, could you please make a video of the history of kudo. I am a black belt in kyokushinkai and studied kudo for many years. Thank you sensei Osu
People severely underestimate Choki Motobu's abilities with martial arts and self-defense. The man may have been a social outcast in his era but it seems he definitely knew and understood hand-to-hand combat in a way that most other men of his era did not. Doubtless, those lessons he learned are as practical today as they were then.
Thanks for your comment. I believe that all karate practitioners should take Motobu's words seriously in order to reconsider the karate they are practicing now. Especially those who call themselves traditional karate.
I wish his style was more known. Motobu Choki is a legend. He had a professional boxer with the nickname of "piston". He always sparred with him all the time. And Other judo masters if Im not mistaken. So he was way ahead of his time.
Yahara Sensei dit : "Un vrai Combat vaut un an de Dojo..." Et citons l'une des répliques du film Matrix : "Tu n'est pas le meilleur quand tu le croit, Mais quand tu le sais..." 0ss.
That's great. You say you like to kick, you are good at kicking, probably because you are fascinated by the beauty of kicking and have practiced kicking a lot. I think the most important thing in art is sensitivity. What do you find beautiful? That sensitivity is important. Martial arts is also a kind of art. Therefore, it is not only strong or weak, but there must be beauty in it. I am sure your kicking is beautiful.😉 Likewise, there are people who prefer punching to kicking, or who prefer grappling to striking. Everyone's sensibilities are different. Fighting in Kudo is very flexible. Each fighter is unique in his or her own way. I love the diversity of Kudo. I hope you enjoy watching the various Kudo fights on my channel.
I've been reading Motobu Choki's books, and they are very interesting. I also enjoy Kenwa Mabuni's books. I see they think the same about sparring, and I think it's a good thing. When is Shinji Watanabe going to make a book about Yuiga Ryu Kihon, Kata and Kumite? That would be even more interesting.
Thank you for your comment and sorry for the very late reply. Yes, I would like to, but unfortunately, I don't have the chance. If this channel gets more viewers, maybe some publisher will give me that chance. 😁
Merci pour ce commentaire. Si le karaté décrit dans les mots de ce Motobu est l'essence du karaté d'antan, le karaté originel, alors je dirais que beaucoup d'écoles actuelles de karaté d'Okinawa ne perpétuent pas la tradition correctement. C'est très regrettable.
I wish that we would listen more to Motobu in practice. So many quote him and then go back to WKF and JKA sparring, practicing 10+ Katas, and silly kata competition, which turns kata into interpretive dance. MMA, Daido, and the like gave the karate world tools to fight effectively, yet the people who run karate as an institution do not use them. The type of sparring currently practiced is not really karate sparring. It is savate sparring from the 1800s. Savate itself evolved into legitimate kickboxing, while karate sparring evolved into a hodgepodge of arbitrary, confusing rules that are counterproductive to student growth. With karate's inclusion into the Olympics, the problem has only gotten worse. The Olympic Committee has not met a martial art that it could not ruin. If karate dies, the blame falls on those who refuse to change their ways.
If you cross breed 2 different kinds of flowers, you get increased health, called "Hybrid Vigor". I think Traditional Martial Arts needs to do a little hybridizing to get some increased vigor. Many people these days think that mixing arts is the way to go, but a hybrid more than a mix. A mix is like a bunch of different flowers in the same vase, but a hybrid is grown from the seed.
I find it interesting that Motobu said kicking is not very effective in actual fighting. From the fights I had low kicks where very effective. Mainly to the back of or to the side of the knee. I think that doing a high or head kick wouldn't be effective. Then again I am a 40 year old trainee and could never do a head kick even in my teens & 20's so I know very little.
Thank you for the comment. I think the "low kicks" you are referring to is using mawashi-geri. The "actual fighting" in Motobu's time were either so-called street fights or kumite by "kake-dameshi" rules, so they were fairly close-range fights. I think that when you compare the damage to the opponent and the risk to yourself, you conclude that it is "not so effective" to do even if mawashi-geri low kicks in such a close-range fight. Incidentally (and you may know this), the " kumite by kake-dameshi rule" is also featured in a scene from Bruce Lee's movie "Enter the Dragon". ua-cam.com/video/iIToSVlFjBk/v-deo.html It was the official way of Kumite in Okinawa karate (or Chinese kung-fu) at that time. Well, but there were not many senseis who do (or could do) kumite even in those days, and Motobu was always discontented with that, as you can see from this record.
@@shinjiwatanabe8131 I'm talking about street fights as well and the low kicks I'm talking about are mawashi geri, kin geri and kansetsu geri. Especially the kansetsu geri! I would constantly kick someone at the side or back of the knee and they always stumbled. See I am short and where I grew up you rarely fought someone one on one. You normally had to fight 3 or more people so I always had to make sure my punches and kicks were quick and effective enough to cause people to lose balance or stagger them enough to follow-up with a harder hit (usually forcing thier face to a wall, side walk, car or parking meter) or us that person as a brief shield against there other friends and if they were all like slowly moving after those hits I'd run to the nearest bus or train to get out of that area.
@@tokenstandpoint93 I've been in a couple of street fights where kicks were used. One guy tried to kick me in the head, and I just moved my head back out of range and he missed. Another time a guy tried to kick me in the nards, and I just blocked it with my knee. Kicks can be very powerful, but the timing needs to be just right or else they are easy to defend. My Hapkido teacher called kicks "finishing moves" because he felt the best time for a kick is when the enemy is already dazed.
I feel the same as you. Anyone who has had a handful of real fights can’t be deceived by unrealistic theories and techniques that will not work in combat. Given the fact that Motobu’s preferred method of training was to regularly visit the red light district and pick fights with powerful looking opponents, he obviously gained a lot of real-world experience in the practical application of his art. It shines through in his writings, and I take everything he says to heart.
There are still many karate masters who have never fought, or in other words, cannot fight. That is OK if we interpret karate as a traditional art.
But if karate is a martial art, then it is important to actually fight. We must learn from the words of those who have actually fought.
Agreed. 🙏🏼
Very interesting sensei, I came into karate in the 1960s as a western boxer and doorman. please keep making these videos
Osu sensei..
I have seen lots of your videos and have always ticked the like box.
Forgive me if you have answered this with a video, with your experience, could you please make a video of the history of kudo.
I am a black belt in kyokushinkai and studied kudo for many years.
Thank you sensei
Osu
Choki motobu had actual fighting experience so he knew what he was talking about
People severely underestimate Choki Motobu's abilities with martial arts and self-defense. The man may have been a social outcast in his era but it seems he definitely knew and understood hand-to-hand combat in a way that most other men of his era did not. Doubtless, those lessons he learned are as practical today as they were then.
Thanks for your comment.
I believe that all karate practitioners should take Motobu's words seriously in order to reconsider the karate they are practicing now. Especially those who call themselves traditional karate.
I wish his style was more known. Motobu Choki is a legend. He had a professional boxer with the nickname of "piston". He always sparred with him all the time. And Other judo masters if Im not mistaken. So he was way ahead of his time.
Yahara Sensei dit :
"Un vrai Combat vaut un an de Dojo..."
Et citons l'une des répliques du film Matrix :
"Tu n'est pas le meilleur quand tu le croit,
Mais quand tu le sais..."
0ss.
He was a great fighter. One of my favorite people. Osu
Thanks for your comment. Osu!
Is very interesting what he said about the first attack, thanks for the video
You're welcome. Thank you for your comment. Osu‼︎
I agree with almost everything he wrote, but I love kicking in fights. I'm way better at kicking than with my hands.
That's great.
You say you like to kick, you are good at kicking, probably because you are fascinated by the beauty of kicking and have practiced kicking a lot.
I think the most important thing in art is sensitivity.
What do you find beautiful? That sensitivity is important.
Martial arts is also a kind of art. Therefore, it is not only strong or weak, but there must be beauty in it.
I am sure your kicking is beautiful.😉
Likewise, there are people who prefer punching to kicking, or who prefer grappling to striking. Everyone's sensibilities are different.
Fighting in Kudo is very flexible. Each fighter is unique in his or her own way.
I love the diversity of Kudo.
I hope you enjoy watching the various Kudo fights on my channel.
I've been reading Motobu Choki's books, and they are very interesting. I also enjoy Kenwa Mabuni's books.
I see they think the same about sparring, and I think it's a good thing.
When is Shinji Watanabe going to make a book about Yuiga Ryu Kihon, Kata and Kumite?
That would be even more interesting.
Thank you for your comment and sorry for the very late reply.
Yes, I would like to, but unfortunately, I don't have the chance.
If this channel gets more viewers, maybe some publisher will give me that chance. 😁
Je ne connaissais pas ces paroles de motobu..mais je suis d accord sur tout de par mon expérience..
Merci pour ce commentaire.
Si le karaté décrit dans les mots de ce Motobu est l'essence du karaté d'antan, le karaté originel, alors je dirais que beaucoup d'écoles actuelles de karaté d'Okinawa ne perpétuent pas la tradition correctement. C'est très regrettable.
Very interesting. Many thanks :)
Thanks for your comment. Osu!! :)
Your vídeo os awesome
Thank you. I'll try to keep uploading good videos.
Osu!!
Muchas gracias por el contenido. Pude observarlo en español por los subtitulos.
Gracias por el comentario. Merece la pena el esfuerzo de subtitularlo. :)
OSU! Thank You for the video!
You're welcome. Thanks for your comment. Osu!
I wish that we would listen more to Motobu in practice. So many quote him and then go back to WKF and JKA sparring, practicing 10+ Katas, and silly kata competition, which turns kata into interpretive dance. MMA, Daido, and the like gave the karate world tools to fight effectively, yet the people who run karate as an institution do not use them.
The type of sparring currently practiced is not really karate sparring. It is savate sparring from the 1800s. Savate itself evolved into legitimate kickboxing, while karate sparring evolved into a hodgepodge of arbitrary, confusing rules that are counterproductive to student growth. With karate's inclusion into the Olympics, the problem has only gotten worse. The Olympic Committee has not met a martial art that it could not ruin.
If karate dies, the blame falls on those who refuse to change their ways.
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If you cross breed 2 different kinds of flowers, you get increased health, called "Hybrid Vigor".
I think Traditional Martial Arts needs to do a little hybridizing to get some increased vigor.
Many people these days think that mixing arts is the way to go, but a hybrid more than a mix. A mix is like a bunch of different flowers in the same vase, but a hybrid is grown from the seed.
Osu interesante.
Gracias por su comentario. ¡Osu!
great video, Motobu was defenetli right
Thanks for your comment. Osu!
I find it interesting that Motobu said kicking is not very effective in actual fighting. From the fights I had low kicks where very effective. Mainly to the back of or to the side of the knee. I think that doing a high or head kick wouldn't be effective. Then again I am a 40 year old trainee and could never do a head kick even in my teens & 20's so I know very little.
Thank you for the comment.
I think the "low kicks" you are referring to is using mawashi-geri.
The "actual fighting" in Motobu's time were either so-called street fights or kumite by "kake-dameshi" rules, so they were fairly close-range fights.
I think that when you compare the damage to the opponent and the risk to yourself, you conclude that it is "not so effective" to do even if mawashi-geri low kicks in such a close-range fight.
Incidentally (and you may know this), the " kumite by kake-dameshi rule" is also featured in a scene from Bruce Lee's movie "Enter the Dragon".
ua-cam.com/video/iIToSVlFjBk/v-deo.html
It was the official way of Kumite in Okinawa karate (or Chinese kung-fu) at that time.
Well, but there were not many senseis who do (or could do) kumite even in those days, and Motobu was always discontented with that, as you can see from this record.
@@shinjiwatanabe8131 I'm talking about street fights as well and the low kicks I'm talking about are mawashi geri, kin geri and kansetsu geri. Especially the kansetsu geri! I would constantly kick someone at the side or back of the knee and they always stumbled. See I am short and where I grew up you rarely fought someone one on one. You normally had to fight 3 or more people so I always had to make sure my punches and kicks were quick and effective enough to cause people to lose balance or stagger them enough to follow-up with a harder hit (usually forcing thier face to a wall, side walk, car or parking meter) or us that person as a brief shield against there other friends and if they were all like slowly moving after those hits I'd run to the nearest bus or train to get out of that area.
@@tokenstandpoint93 I've been in a couple of street fights where kicks were used. One guy tried to kick me in the head, and I just moved my head back out of range and he missed. Another time a guy tried to kick me in the nards, and I just blocked it with my knee. Kicks can be very powerful, but the timing needs to be just right or else they are easy to defend. My Hapkido teacher called kicks "finishing moves" because he felt the best time for a kick is when the enemy is already dazed.
Motobu Choki was the real deal and Gichin Funakoshi was just a bunch of fluff.