1925 Abandoned House Restoration 22: Install Ice and Water Shield, Shallow Shingle Roof Experiment.

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  • @RinoaL
    @RinoaL  4 роки тому +22

    Just FYI, this was filmed December 26th, but i needed a break from everything lest i get burnt out. We are going to get an estimate from a local roofer to see if maybe itll be financially ok to just have them do the rest. should be much cheaper with all the work we've done!

    • @pulesjet
      @pulesjet 4 роки тому +3

      Well dang, You've got this all but licked. Why pay someone else ?

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +3

      because we arent half way done

    • @anthonymiller8979
      @anthonymiller8979 4 роки тому +11

      Be clear with them on any guarantee they provide on the roof against leaks. Roofers can be funny about not working over another persons earlier work. Some will only guarantee if they do everything above the sheathing and may even be picky about that. Just be sure you know up front what you are getting from them.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      @sidehatch69 - they tend to have more than two people though, and normally they are all young men. so thats to be expected. lol

    • @jounatherton7294
      @jounatherton7294 4 роки тому

      i dont think a roofer could do better just long it out done very well .

  • @curtisjar
    @curtisjar 2 роки тому

    Love Bill's positive attitude throughout.

  • @TheDasbull
    @TheDasbull 4 роки тому +2

    Looking great! You won't need to worry about a new roof for a long time. The work you are doing will hold up for years, and to be honest is better than most commercial roofers in my area perform. With good quality shingles, this roof should last 25+ years. 👍
    Lots of posters will comment and have their own opinions - I am a contractor, and respect what you are doing, and it will protect your house very well.
    Cheers!

  • @brucestmartin777
    @brucestmartin777 4 роки тому +4

    Nice ... ! You two are amazing. I have binge watched the whole thing and I can not believe how much you have done. Such really good work. At the beginning... I thought.. how are they ever going to do all this..? By now I wouldn’t but anything past you two . This house is going to be great! I am hooked!

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +3

      we will just need a few weeks to recover from this and wait for nicer weather, then we can continue ^_^

    • @wagnerfelix2100
      @wagnerfelix2100 4 роки тому

      Truth is very good when he in the other video nailed the roof I did not beat

  • @spicynomad
    @spicynomad 3 роки тому

    you guys make it look soo easy.

  • @danielhall7571
    @danielhall7571 4 роки тому +1

    I used to be a roofer's labourer and I've honestly worked with professionals who couldn't have got that stuff on so well. You two work together really, really well.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      well thank you!

  • @KarmaElectronics.
    @KarmaElectronics. 4 роки тому +3

    did house Reno's for years contracted. your doing a great job.

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 4 роки тому

    Awesome job

  • @davidallen7722
    @davidallen7722 4 роки тому +6

    I'm a roofing contractor in Michigan. A lot of the older homes here that look like that go with rubber roofing (epdm) on that lower slope dormer and shingles on the rest. Just an option.

  • @SusanAmberBruce
    @SusanAmberBruce 4 роки тому +1

    Looking good! pulling that plastic out looks pretty satisfying.

  • @jdcjr50
    @jdcjr50 4 роки тому

    You guys are awesome

  • @pulesjet
    @pulesjet 4 роки тому

    Dang, you guys are getting this chit done quite rapid. Impressed. You guys work well together.

  • @NotSoCrazyNinja
    @NotSoCrazyNinja 4 роки тому

    I'm not sure if this is the right term, but roll roofing, from what I could tell, is the cheapest "shingling" option and probably the easiest. It's basically what you have there and you just roll it over the roof and nail it. Maybe put felt paper under it. If I ever have to do a reshingle, I will probably use it. My current place is metal roofing. Seeing the other comment, I'm assuming you have hired people to finish, not sure as I haven't watched the newer videos yet, trying to watch in order. Very interesting videos.

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 4 роки тому

    You're making excellent progress.

  • @suryaprofessor
    @suryaprofessor 4 роки тому

    That’s a beautiful job done

  • @battlebotts
    @battlebotts 2 роки тому

    If you roll a laminate adhesive pre felt it will stick better

  • @mobiousenigma
    @mobiousenigma 4 роки тому +5

    the roof wasnt framed for slate and there is no evidence for prior usage possibly split cedar or pine shakes depending on what was prevalent in your area . its bad practice to put penetrations in ice and water shield there is enough from the shingles. previous water damage can be from several causes with the lack of roof pitch being the least plausible and heat escaping through the roof to snow above it causing ice damming to be the most likely . its nice to see unprofessional but still competent trade work being done, ... i might have spent a bit more on deck repair and the overhang structure but its serviceable and its not my house or wallet so not my decision. back to the roof pitch ,, the concern is with snow load and the structure to support it not weather its going to leak or not.. properly done low pitch roofing systems are as waterproof as others and living in canada having studied architecture i can inform you its a viable roofing system and has pitch so dosnt have the issues of a flat roof. the key will be ventilation from soffit to above the insulation and along the ridge keep the rooms warm keep the roof cold and dont let moist air contact cold surfaces where it condenses and or freezes and all will work well. you may want to consider dropping a tarp or two before removing more shingles,,,so much nicer dragging a tarp full over picking them up one at a time and finding the nails with the lawnmower....just saying.... thanks for the video

  • @jasonweaver1252
    @jasonweaver1252 4 роки тому

    You should let your drip edge on the front run long and cut and wrap around the sides one small cut on bottom lip and cut across the back where you nail. Looks so much better than separate pieces

  • @pineapplepissant
    @pineapplepissant Рік тому

    I watched a vid of a bunch of amigos doin it and they were pulling the plastic out from the material and it rolled itself. Didn’t even have to pull the plastic out from under it after it was layed

  • @PlanetMojo
    @PlanetMojo 4 роки тому

    New sub, first video. We built our own house out in the country and have two dormers pretty much exactly like yours. We have 100% Water & Ice on the dormer roofs on up to the ridge. It is absolutely the way to go on a low pitch dormer like that. Quite pricey, but worth it. I just finished my first rubber (flat) roof, so if you guys have one of those on this place I can give some advice! We put 'Lifetime' architectural shingles over ours -- likely last 60 years.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      yeah we had thought about rubber roof, however we think we will try rolled roofing for now and go for metal later.

  • @thingyee1118
    @thingyee1118 4 роки тому

    Looks good. We have mostly tiled roofs here. Brick tile. Although our houses are all brick besides internals. Tiles last for a very very long time. Sheds are normally large tar sheets but not flat roof. Tar sheets aka felting replaced every half decade maybe. Flat roofs tend to only be concrete. Steel corrugated roof sheets on barns.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      Yeah, im seriously thinking about firing my own tiles with solar powered kilns. not for this house but for one someday.

  • @HippieMotMot
    @HippieMotMot 4 роки тому

    Nice job! Love your videos.
    Greetings from Costa Rica!
    😸

  • @p.a.d2167
    @p.a.d2167 4 роки тому

    Creo que es una gran idea devolver la vida a esas maravillosas casas .Gran trabajo saludos desde España la sierra de madrid

  • @egn83b
    @egn83b 4 роки тому

    Looking good. You guys should consider buying some gutters to divert water away your roof and away from your foundation to keep mold and rotting under raps.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      i think the gutters we removed will work ok if we dont kill them while stored

  • @FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS
    @FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS 4 роки тому +1

    I Remember Bill's 1st appearance all nervous and shy in front of the camera He's areal natural now, You both gel together on camera well don Rino & Bll

  • @one4stevo
    @one4stevo 4 роки тому

    Nice job guys

  • @hosscaddy
    @hosscaddy 4 роки тому +1

    The ice guard will stick good if u peel it half way and let the sticky side set in the sun for alittle bit

  • @dalesworld1308
    @dalesworld1308 4 роки тому +3

    If you put architectural shingles on instead of 3 tab you won't have to worry about it for over 30 years.

    • @joegeorge3367
      @joegeorge3367 4 роки тому

      i have 50 year on my house on Cape Cod. and you can shoot them onto the roof way faster than playing with those 3-tabe lines snapped all over the roof.

    • @maxsteel6092
      @maxsteel6092 4 роки тому

      Every shingle is lifetime now

  • @pezjme
    @pezjme 4 роки тому +5

    I'd ice shield the whole thing. It's only 70 dollars a roll where I live.

    • @zaphoidbeeblebrox1809
      @zaphoidbeeblebrox1809 4 роки тому +1

      They have no money too spare, zero budget, but I agree do it right as you suggest. ;0)

  • @SomeDumUsrName
    @SomeDumUsrName 4 роки тому

    Makin’ progress. Very cool. Now......PUT SOME DAMN SHOES ON BEFORE YOU GET HURT!!!!!! omG WHAT r u thinkin!?

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      i didnt want to damage the ice and water shield by stepping on nails puncturing the water shield, so i used my feet to detect the nails, it worked great because feet are more sensitive. found many more nails and didnt get hurt at all. stop being unproductive.

    • @SomeDumUsrName
      @SomeDumUsrName 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL your shoes are NOT going to damage that shield unless your on a steep pitch and its 110 degrees outside.
      This is NOT how you find things protruding from the deck! What it IS is putting yourself at risk.
      "Unproductive" is when people are down because of idiot moves like working in an environment like this with no shoes on. C'mon.....smarten up!

  • @steve64464
    @steve64464 4 роки тому

    Well done :-) both of you!

  • @sheep1ewe
    @sheep1ewe 4 роки тому +3

    If i am helping You by watching Your videos i fell honoured to participate! even if it goes unnoticed for anybody else than my self. Bu it know it and it makes me happy! :)

  • @gregworkshop5713
    @gregworkshop5713 4 роки тому

    hi looking very good

  • @darkfactory8082
    @darkfactory8082 4 роки тому

    Excelent job, no troubles so far, just pay attention to the vent on top as you don't want it to be compromised and somehow draw water in... on video it looks a bit sketchy, I mean the finishing of the rolls you put on and the vent edge, the roll should be tucked under the edge. Just commenting... How many layers of shingles are on the other side? Looks like 7 or something... Cheers, keep going! =)

  • @maxsteel6092
    @maxsteel6092 4 роки тому

    If shingles are to be installed you will need two layers of underlayment for slopes under 4/12.

  • @guarionex1961
    @guarionex1961 4 роки тому

    I think that both of you can work as roofers now on.

  • @wagnerfelix2100
    @wagnerfelix2100 4 роки тому

    Bom trabalho a todos

  • @joegeorge3367
    @joegeorge3367 4 роки тому +1

    i missed a few of your rcent videos but did you discuss ventingfor your roof areas? are you using gable vents or eave vents with a ridge vent? might want to know if you go ridge for the roofer to top that off for you. looks real good.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      vent in what way? you mean attic vents like we already have?

    • @anthonymiller8979
      @anthonymiller8979 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL Most newer homes use a ridge vent running along the very peak of the roof from one wend to the other, sometimes coupled with vents under the soffits. Most older houses like yours though would likely just have them in the eaves on the side walls just below the peak. Never hurts to have them but it is more work and expense. (Edit: I see now that yours has one of those cool old time metal rotating vents)

    • @joegeorge3367
      @joegeorge3367 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL you can keep the gable vents if you like. but you may consider having the roofer cut in a continuous ridge vent. and down on the eaves add venting there. air will move naturally from the eaves to the ridge and flow out. you can feel it in the summer if you go up there - hot air will be billowing out the ridge. venting will help the shingles last the longest on their warranty - whether it's 15 years, 20 years, etc. there are 10's of millions of home with simple gable vents that work fine all over the place. if you don't get a ridge vent, you can add a small fan in the attic over the gable vent on a thermoswitch to come on in the summer and blow out the hot air.

  • @jounatherton7294
    @jounatherton7294 4 роки тому

    I think you both done a very good job being honest, lovely job .and you see the home around you could do with the same, you and your m8 be rich in a month doing roofs.
    well done both of you, you both work very well together ......
    nice having friends no conflicts works so well.
    john Uk
    ps.
    that house I can see looking so lovely, wood and stain look so good.

  • @lionreb
    @lionreb 4 роки тому

    I guess the wind picked up pretty quickly that day.

  • @ronzawora
    @ronzawora 4 роки тому +1

    Have you considered using something like Task Rabbit to have affordable paid help do the cleanup? Also, how is the reading going? Any word from AVE on the collab?

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      been trying to read but have been playing ffxiv instead, and i expect to get AvE‘s help when i get rocket engine further along.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      @Jason Bowman well he has some amazing machining skills, and a machine perfect for carving out propellant channels in an injector head. hehe

  • @jamespotter936
    @jamespotter936 4 роки тому +1

    Does the house have a garage or drive way?

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +3

      has a driveway but no garage

  • @XPFTP
    @XPFTP 4 роки тому

    i doubt that will last a few years if nothing over it. i would do the roof urselfs.. you all come this far... i didnt think you 2 were the type to give up... hahhaha... in another words get ur asses up there and slam some nails.. tshirts hahha we had a 50 day here last month probley around same time.. was niceeeeeeeeeeeee.. and 40ish now so out to the yard to pull apart my tent that come down with the snow grrrrrr....

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      you dont think shingles would last a few years?

    • @XPFTP
      @XPFTP 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL ooo u r going to shingle over it.. then yeah thats good.. i thought you was just doing the WIP..

  • @macintosh_waifu
    @macintosh_waifu 4 роки тому

    If you guys find some old photos of that house, please show them on the video. :)

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +2

      wish i could find some tbh

  • @craigtheriault6208
    @craigtheriault6208 4 роки тому

    You will have no problems with the ice and water shield lasting a few years, the felt paper wont last very long, wrinkles badly when it gets wet.Dont think you will get the winter out of it.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      well they will have shingles over it...

    • @craigtheriault6208
      @craigtheriault6208 4 роки тому

      Didnt no you were shingling right away, if your not , it would last long

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 4 роки тому

      @@craigtheriault6208 Depends on the quality of the paper and a bunch of other factors I guess. I re-did a shed about three years ago and it's still doing fine but it definitely doesn't get any direct sunlight and I used the heaviest paper I could get. It was stil muuuuuuch thinner and weaker than the leftover roll I had from around 1990. The old stuff was literally twice as thick!

  • @Dog.soldier1950
    @Dog.soldier1950 4 роки тому

    Fall protection? Not too much

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      your mind is the best fall protection you have

  • @meandnature6452
    @meandnature6452 4 роки тому +1

    soon water tight ;)

  • @leonmoxon9396
    @leonmoxon9396 4 роки тому +1

    Health and Safety....?

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +2

      have our health, and we are being safe.

    • @thingyee1118
      @thingyee1118 4 роки тому

      Rinoa's Auspicious Travails yuup

    • @station240
      @station240 4 роки тому

      Hazard: Falling off the roof.
      Mitigation: Yeah, don't do that.
      Hazard: Smashing your fingers with the hammer.
      Mitigation: Yeah, don't do that either.
      Or you can just figure this stuff out in your head in 3 seconds and skip the paperwork.

  • @DiggerX8X
    @DiggerX8X 4 роки тому

    Really coming along!

  • @adrianstoness3903
    @adrianstoness3903 4 роки тому

    could last u 30years like that if u get the roof insulated properly seen roll roofing last 50yrs and still going on my dads cabin

  • @jcretailexplorations9562
    @jcretailexplorations9562 4 роки тому

    I'm getting circle clear glasses today for my plushies

  • @bossecarlberg
    @bossecarlberg 4 роки тому +1

    You do wrong the small tape sod be take way it is glue under and that and glue together with next

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +1

      what? please try talking in english.

    • @therealgrizzly
      @therealgrizzly 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL I think he means that there is a tape/plastic sheat over glue that should be removed (like on the underside) on the top side but only a small strip.
      If you go to 15:05 in the video your hands are "holding" it.

    • @bossecarlberg
      @bossecarlberg 4 роки тому +1

      Hi Rinoa I try to explained on the roll you have a small plastic strip on the top side. That plastic strip remove s then you have set the next row of roll and then it glue to each other
      I am from Sweden and my English is not so good

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      ah, we tried but it clearly cant be removed, so it looks like its designed to give a flat surface for the next layer to stick to instead

    • @thomasprendergast6315
      @thomasprendergast6315 3 роки тому

      @@RinoaL Rinoa, that plastic strip is not to be removed; it protects the adhesive from sticking to the next coil of the roll. And the sticky bottom of the next sheet is designed to stick to the top of the plastic. You got it right.

  • @metallitech
    @metallitech 4 роки тому

    LIBRARY

  • @jeromewysocki8809
    @jeromewysocki8809 4 роки тому

    I see you are putting in the nails by hand with a hammer, instead of a nail gun. My roofer tells me that nailing them in by hand is the best way. You can control things better by hand, then with a nail gun. Too little air pressure on a nail gun will leave the roofing material too loose, and will probably let it get ripped off by the wind. Too high air pressure will cause the material to tare, again allowing it to be blown off by the wind.
    You were thinking of getting an estimate from a local roofer to finish the job. This would be wise, if you can afford it. Besides, you got plenty you can do on the inside, with peace of mind that things will not be further destroyed by mold and water damage.
    A decently installed roof job will get you at least 20 years of dependable performance. I got 27 years on mine, and replaced the roof then after a mild leak. (I didn't want to push my luck any longer 🙂.)
    Best of luck to both of you. It seems you are both working well, in tandem with each other. That always helps!

  • @bossecarlberg
    @bossecarlberg 4 роки тому

    Hi I think you can talk with the store you bye this ting so you not do something wrong. I have restore my one house roof. I will only help you I can have wrong

  • @erinfrostbirbs5672
    @erinfrostbirbs5672 4 роки тому

    iam a build if your not far from pa .you guys are more then welcome to raid my wharehouse of left overs.

  • @handygotten54
    @handygotten54 4 роки тому

    Hi, the plastic cover of the overlap facing upwards. Hope you removed that too as it is supposed to glue to the overlap you use Nails on ??

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому

      well every time we tried to remove it, it ripped, so it was impossible. we realized its not to glue, its to provide a smooth surface for the sticky underside to seal against

    • @handygotten54
      @handygotten54 4 роки тому

      @@RinoaL Ok, get you. :)

  • @mjpbase1
    @mjpbase1 4 роки тому +1

    Isn't finding nails with your bare feet analogous to finding gas leaks with a lit match? 🤔

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL  4 роки тому +2

      if the gas leak doesnt start a fire or cause any damage whatsoever, then sure.

  • @gregorhay123
    @gregorhay123 4 роки тому

    1s