While I disagreed on many of your arguments here. The ways you described here that would lead Nolan to victory where more plausible and less stupid than whatever the sun disk thing was.
Nappa Level? I'm sorry my guy, but in every version, Bardock had a power level of 10,000 in the TV special, and has fought a character that represent a limit to the what Saiyan has known to be capable of (Super Manga) and has stated to be not a low class saiyan based on his performance. And since we're using Toei version (basically the Anime Version where he has future ability thingy) that means he also scales to characters like Goku who is capable of reacting and dodging meteors while traveling at mftl speed. Even if he doesn't have the speed advantage, trying to hit or harm someone Stronger and Durable than you is like a normal human trying to break a solid stone, sure you are faster, but it ain't gonna anything, it just gonna hurt your arms more (like how characters in Invincible turns into red mist just by trying to slam their body against someone who is far more durable full speed, and how characters in Dragon Ball break their limbs just by trying to stab through someone's chest) Even trying to grab him and pulled him into space is not gonna do anything, as Bardock can literally just release a explosion, pushing Omni-man away (similar to how he did it against multiple Frieza soldiers grabbing him) The moment Omni-man hits Bardock, it's over.
Wait there gonna use the tv movie special bardock the old school non canon dbz bardock, yup in the beginning of the movie he was reaching a power level of 10,000 and after he was sent back in the past and killed friezas ancestor as a ssj1 but if they use the recent bardock then they'll be using a weaker bardock... The dbs bardock was retconned and toriyama said he never reached mid class and raditz was and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level (1,600) and also being mid class Low class power levels- 900;....... 450;..... 400.... beetz, shorty and scarface And broly as a child in dbs broly- 920 (impressing beetz kid broly is highers than his) So bardock being a strong low class saiyan but not strong enough for mid class would put him at a power level of 1,000 and 25,000 as a false super sayain to beat gas, gas at the time he lost to bardock was perhaps as strong as dodoria cause the creator bardock made is the same exact one dodoria made in the the dbz when he overpowered bardock with his mouth beam.
Hard for anybody to call this travesty a victory, Otto. This is MFTL Nuclear Eyebeams DIO level of wank for two characters that cap out at planetary at best. I can only imagine how SWANKed DIO's son will be.
Friendly reminder that viltrum took a star-level attack and it didn't get destroyed, plus the fact that it's an absolutely massive planet. Omni-man is gonna lose but it's gonna be closer than the stomp most people imagine. There is also the fact that, if they use show OM, then they can use the scene of him resisting the pull of a black hole (weirdly enough the show already scales slightly higher than the comics just because of that single scene)
I disagree Bardock doesn't drop his guard so omni man punches. Would be like throw a glass vase at steel walls that get tougher over time. Bardock have been show to breath in space... somehow. So omni man destroyed the plant won't do anything.
You still gonna do a video defending Bardock after the laughable scaling both sides got in the actual match like you mentioned in one of the threads or are you gonna hold off on that after the Dragon Ball fans flooded your comments section with salt?
@@capeworldcomics yeah, I get where you're going with this, Dragon ball's power scaling is very weird and difficult to understand. Maybe they're the exception or something
I don’t think power levels are linear in destructive capability but exponential. Also in the daizenshu, it was stated it took a power level of 5000 to destroy Earth.
you only get two scaling for bardock. hes stated to have 10000 as a power level. and super scaling where he surpassed every living saiyan fighting gas.
@@qtindavis433 Those are really bad assumptions toriyama stated that bardock never made it to mid class saiyans but he was a strong low class saiyan warrior and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level of 1,600 So this means the dbs canon bardock is somewhere around the 1,000 power level Low class saiyans power level- beetz,shorty and scarface: 900...... 500..... 450 Broly's power level as a kid dbs 920 impressing beetz cause broly is higher than his. And also bardock transformed into a false super sayain giving him 25× multiplier while transforming so bardock as a false ssj has a power level of 25,000 and gas would probably be atleast the same as dodoria cause the beam that bardock used to beat gas; resembles (in destruction aftermath) the mouth beam dodoria used on dbz bardock
@@Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me baha haha, you can cope i guess. be mad. everything i said backed by the movie bradock is in. and the super scaling in his fight with gas. cope weirdo. bardock is above ALL saiyans in that time period stated by gas.go read the manga, toriyama has made zero statements about canon bardock before his death since super came out. cope
why viable why would Omniman ever destroy the Planet and then run away? That isn’t in their Character, Viltrumite are warriors who are all about Might make the right brawl, Thragg could have easily thrown Battle Beast into space or even run away. Yet he didn’t he stayed and brawled him till one of them was left standing. and you left out the “splat effect” Omniman is going to break his hand punching Bardock and get manhandle like what happen to Red rush. even with equal stats all it take is simple zenkai and Omniman is screwed
I'm sure they're doing Spawn scaling vs whatever dragon ball meme scaling. Enjoyed the breakdown! I hope you do Simon v Kyle at some point, that one's got a fair bit of salt potential.
@circularnectarine1439 @circularnectarine1439 I mean home lander also didn't know, but if they do bring up for Bardock maybe they will compare him to other shout attacks that do affect the environment, but maybe they aren't loud enough.
Bardock was actually incredibly smart. People forget that Goku had major head injury that almost killed him when he was basically a Toddler. This affected his cognitive abilities. He however is a combat genius.
Watching this video was painful. Seriously. You do not understand Dragon Ball at all, nor its power system. Therefore, you should not have weighed in on this discussion. But let me be clear. I do not believe Bardock will be able to touch Omniman because Omniman should be way faster, too fast for Bardock, and should therefore win.
@@discobites Thats dbz bardock who has 10,000 The dbs bardock was retconned and toriyama said he never reached mid class and raditz was a mid class and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level 1,600 So this means bardocks base (dbs) is around 1,000
@@Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me oh damn I never knew that. Dragon Ball feats are still crazy tho, Piccolo post-Raditz but before training time skip was able to instantly blow up the moon from afar
@@discobites yeah that is a crazy feat an piccolo was around 400's an sumthin, i mean so where the phantom saiyans- scarface and shorty they were low class saiyans power levels of: 450&500 and they toyed with the z fighters but the new bardock can turn false super sayain giving him 25 × multiplier, that's how he beat gas, and dbs bardock as a false super sayains power level would be at 25,000 and gas berserker would be at dodoria level u can see the same energy wave bardock used resembles the same one dodorias mouth wave beam (he used to overpower dbz bardock) in destruction it's, only logical and gas after 40 years of training became captain ginyu level.
@@discobites but true dbs bardock as a false super sayain that would have a power level of 25,000 would be pretty op he would be able to beat almost all of frieza's elite henchmen he would be able to beat zarbon unless zarbon transforms to his monster form heck fssj bardock would be able to beat vegeta before vegeta got zenkai from loosing to monster zarbon and he could beat guldo, cui, dodoria, turles before eating fruit and his henchmen, garlic jr. From the first appearance but would lose to the rest of the ginyu force and monster form zarbon
Bardocks cannon power lever was around 10k Raditz was 1200 max and faster then speed of light. Regardless if roshi at 120 could blow the moon up in seconds.so raditz could blow up the earth.Goku could dodge that at the same power level. So was kid goku faster than the speed of light. Then 120x speed of light to bardock. And with invincible physics Omni mad would turn into pinch dust at full impact smashing into bardock.
@@cameronbell7052 Dbz old school non canon bardock is 10,000 Toriyama retconned the dbs bardock stating he never reached mid class and raditz was a mid class and raditz also got a recent retcon on his power level 1,600 which means bardock base is at around 1,000
My brother in christ... Bardock obliterates OmniMan even low class saiyan warriors destroy planets with so much ease it's not even funny. Omniman needed 3 other elite viltrumites to destroy one planet
I actually felt you are right on the money. If DC and Marvel proven anything, superior speed can get around more powerful opponents. Which is already being heavily overlooked by a lot of people. Let's be honest Omni-Man already has exactly what he needs to win. Bardock likely going to burst through his energy supply fast. He lacks the training his son has that would've helped a lot against Omni-Man. Another major critical factor is Omni-Man can manipulate his biology to increase resistance to attacks including fatal ones. He could survive losing a lot more of his body than Bardock to still win the fight. Omni-Man is obviously more of a strategist. He has a lot more overall experience in comparison. Not only that, Bardock's tail is a weakness. Even removing it limits his potential to a degree. He's just lucky to have Super Saiyan form to help make up for that. Omni-Man among the strongest of his kind while Bardock on the lower edge for his race. People also need to realize there's a loop hole in King Kai's statement about Saiyans can fight anywhere. However Saiyans can't accept to several situations that could happen during a fight. In vice versa being a super hero for Earth. Omni-Man has to adapt on a daily basis. Therefore, Omni-Man likely going to figure Bardock out. At an insanely faster rate than Bardock on the verge to trying to understand what's going on. It's also very important note Bardock is not his son Goku either. A lot of people jump heavily on Dragon Ball characters capable of destroying planets. Omni-Man simply wait for opportunities while Bardock going to attempt rushing things. Especially not great to do on an dying planet losing oxygen. It's also critical to note Omni-Man already at his strongest by default. Bardock needs to transform in some fights to better his chances. It's also a possibility Omni-Man could realize to not allow Bardock any transformations too.
Thing is Bardock isn’t dumb brute and still skilled fighter he ain’t going to waste ki trying to catch Also speed is really useless when lack hax and can even hurt you opponent Made worse with how invincible hitting stronger person gets you breaking your own body doing so
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Bardock literally is the only low classed saiyan that has trained. He’s also multi planetary levels of power while Omni man is barely moon level. I’m pretty sure Omni man is cooked.
@@spinozilla2421 Bardock has more common sense than most Saiyans of his time we all can agree to that. He still likely going to run out first because well it's a recurring theme in Dragon Ball franchise. Again speed can be the very thing you need in any situation. Characters like The Flash is clear proof of that. As for being moon close to planet level, Omni-Man isn't weak either. He still has plenty of ways to turn the tides in his favor. Like hit a particular spot on an planet to cause it to blow up. Exactly what Frieza once done before it got prevented afterwards. Therefore, the power argument in that area doesn't seem to matter. If he's moon level then he should still cause an planet to explode. He can hold his breath a lot longer than Bardock. Even if the planet doesn't blow up but on the verge of dying. Bardock suddenly has a time limit he can't do much about. Super Saiyan form does help his chances to a degree. I also felt if Omni-Man can get in close ready to kill. 8 out of 10 times he's going to kill Bardock. Not only that, he fought a bigger variety of enemies too. Bardock doesn't offer much to throw Omni-Man off his game.
@@xboxclown8922 No power argument matters as the gap is too big on this moon- a small planet vs a Large to dwarf star lvl. Omniman is weak and has no way of winning, Flash isn’t proof you do realize the has something called the speed force aka a hax that gives tons of abilties such as phasing, stealling speed, aging manuplation and stuff that give him easy win to people he can’t hurt. Omniman has nothing like that with also made worse how invincable when there is power gap waker person breaks there body trying to hurt the stronger person, as seen with children of Thragg turning into red mist trying to ram Mark and Nolan, or with Nolan himself having his hand turn to mush punching Thragg. Omni not can’t destroy a regular-sized planet without assistance, they space racer gun to destabilize the core or else they die from impact, and besides that, Why? Omniman has never shown to do this as a tactic let alone this out of Character as Omni-man and Viltrumite as a whole are Warriors with a Might makes Right mentality, like sayaians they are people who thrill for the fight a good example is Thragg vs Battle beast, Thragg could just throw flightless battle beast into space or just fly away, but he didn’t he chose to fight till one of them was left standing. not this just a tertiary factor, you soling basing fight take place on a planet with space, put this fight endless white void or lock both of them in a indesctuble cage and Omni-man loses that option
Roshi vs Jiraiya Vegeta vs Shadow Hercule vs Dan Hibiki Frieza vs Megatron Android 18 vs Captain Marvel HULK vs BROLY What do I expect though, Dragon Ball fans don’t even watch or read their own show, how do I expect them to keep track of the fights they have won?
Not all of us. People are just baffled that Goku lost to anyone at all given his ludicrous power. Superman is just that strong. However, Omniman is going to be incinerated
honestly characters blowing the moon in dragon ball seems to me something of an early installment weirdness. I would not use it as a point of comparison.
huh actually your explanation about mass does make the moon thing more logical in-story. I always considered only high class saiyans or frieza had the power the blow up planets - its what made them such a menace.
Dude the genius feat and not some outlier as moon disappearance is constant brought up even in the sayian saga with vegeta shock he can’t spot the moon as that was the back up plan
part of me thinks they'll bring in supreme scaling into the mix but I highly doubt they'd bring in stuff like xenoverse (since you can at least make the argument that since omni-man debut in supreme, its valid), either way, I do think its easier to argue omni-man For one, the guy is smarter, the moment he realizes Bardock needs air nothing is stopping him from just grabbing him and flying him into space. And this isn't a rare tactic, characters in invincible have done it before
Your knowledge of bardock is dangerously lacking
Ben hates DBZ too much to ever let them win matches they easily stomp in.
Edit: Bruh....Nappa level?! You're smoking crack!
Against a super saiyan??
While I disagreed on many of your arguments here. The ways you described here that would lead Nolan to victory where more plausible and less stupid than whatever the sun disk thing was.
The sun disc stuff was so stupid.
Bardock is going to do what Omniman to homelander
True, Bardock is going to literally feed Omni-mans heart.
Nappa Level? I'm sorry my guy, but in every version, Bardock had a power level of 10,000 in the TV special, and has fought a character that represent a limit to the what Saiyan has known to be capable of (Super Manga) and has stated to be not a low class saiyan based on his performance.
And since we're using Toei version (basically the Anime Version where he has future ability thingy) that means he also scales to characters like Goku who is capable of reacting and dodging meteors while traveling at mftl speed.
Even if he doesn't have the speed advantage, trying to hit or harm someone Stronger and Durable than you is like a normal human trying to break a solid stone, sure you are faster, but it ain't gonna anything, it just gonna hurt your arms more (like how characters in Invincible turns into red mist just by trying to slam their body against someone who is far more durable full speed, and how characters in Dragon Ball break their limbs just by trying to stab through someone's chest)
Even trying to grab him and pulled him into space is not gonna do anything, as Bardock can literally just release a explosion, pushing Omni-man away (similar to how he did it against multiple Frieza soldiers grabbing him)
The moment Omni-man hits Bardock, it's over.
Wait there gonna use the tv movie special bardock the old school non canon dbz bardock, yup in the beginning of the movie he was reaching a power level of 10,000 and after he was sent back in the past and killed friezas ancestor as a ssj1 but if they use the recent bardock then they'll be using a weaker bardock...
The dbs bardock was retconned and toriyama said he never reached mid class and raditz was and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level (1,600) and also being mid class
Low class power levels- 900;....... 450;..... 400.... beetz, shorty and scarface
And broly as a child in dbs broly- 920 (impressing beetz kid broly is highers than his)
So bardock being a strong low class saiyan but not strong enough for mid class would put him at a power level of 1,000 and 25,000 as a false super sayain to beat gas, gas at the time he lost to bardock was perhaps as strong as dodoria cause the creator bardock made is the same exact one dodoria made in the the dbz when he overpowered bardock with his mouth beam.
Omniman had help in order to have a planetary feat. Yet Bardock easily upscales planetary characters. Without needing super Saiyan or great ape.
So you know nothing about dragon ball
Omni man is multi continental. He couldn’t destroy a planet by himself, he needed help.
Well that's one fight I've called correctly. Let's see if I can call Giorno vs Joker.
Hard for anybody to call this travesty a victory, Otto. This is MFTL Nuclear Eyebeams DIO level of wank for two characters that cap out at planetary at best.
I can only imagine how SWANKed DIO's son will be.
@@mysteriousstranger2814 Very true. The research was a Frankenstein monster of assumptions.
if they give bardock ssj no amout of riding is saving omniman
As of rn we know they're giving him Ozaru
Even without ssj bardock is planetary plus
@@Jowanji you can easily get him to dwarf star level with anime scaling
@circularnectarine1439 Bro he's more than boned, he's probably gonna wish he was dead before the fight even started
@@Right_Bumper lol
Funny af video im subbing
Fantastic work. The entirety of Latin America is currently seething in this comment section.
remember it took 3 vultures-mites to blow up a planet and power level at 10,00 or higher can easily destroy them
Friendly reminder that viltrum took a star-level attack and it didn't get destroyed, plus the fact that it's an absolutely massive planet. Omni-man is gonna lose but it's gonna be closer than the stomp most people imagine. There is also the fact that, if they use show OM, then they can use the scene of him resisting the pull of a black hole (weirdly enough the show already scales slightly higher than the comics just because of that single scene)
And you can scale bardock to king Vegeta
Omni Man was on the Event Horizon tho, he didn't go inside@@TheGuy53X
A dying planet dont forget that
I disagree Bardock doesn't drop his guard so omni man punches. Would be like throw a glass vase at steel walls that get tougher over time.
Bardock have been show to breath in space... somehow. So omni man destroyed the plant won't do anything.
You still gonna do a video defending Bardock after the laughable scaling both sides got in the actual match like you mentioned in one of the threads or are you gonna hold off on that after the Dragon Ball fans flooded your comments section with salt?
Did this guy called vegeta Virginia?
You do realize that Strength in dragon ball matches the speed right? The powerful and stronger you get, you get faster too.
Generally, but not essentially. Otherwise Burter and Dypso wouldn't be able to outspeed thier peers like they do.
@@capeworldcomics yeah, I get where you're going with this, Dragon ball's power scaling is very weird and difficult to understand. Maybe they're the exception or something
I don’t think power levels are linear in destructive capability but exponential. Also in the daizenshu, it was stated it took a power level of 5000 to destroy Earth.
They should do Hanayama from baki vs Walter from the mask.
you only get two scaling for bardock. hes stated to have 10000 as a power level. and super scaling where he surpassed every living saiyan fighting gas.
@@qtindavis433
Those are really bad assumptions toriyama stated that bardock never made it to mid class saiyans but he was a strong low class saiyan warrior and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level of 1,600
So this means the dbs canon bardock is somewhere around the 1,000 power level
Low class saiyans power level- beetz,shorty and scarface: 900...... 500..... 450
Broly's power level as a kid dbs 920 impressing beetz cause broly is higher than his.
And also bardock transformed into a false super sayain giving him 25× multiplier while transforming so bardock as a false ssj has a power level of 25,000 and gas would probably be atleast the same as dodoria cause the beam that bardock used to beat gas; resembles (in destruction aftermath) the mouth beam dodoria used on dbz bardock
@@Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me baha haha, you can cope i guess. be mad. everything i said backed by the movie bradock is in. and the super scaling in his fight with gas. cope weirdo. bardock is above ALL saiyans in that time period stated by gas.go read the manga, toriyama has made zero statements about canon bardock before his death since super came out. cope
Omni man hits bardock and he explodes. Flawless victory for bardock.
Boi. You need to read the Saiyan Handbook. Cuz you sure ass hell dont know squat from Dragonball
why viable why would Omniman ever destroy the Planet and then run away? That isn’t in their Character, Viltrumite are warriors who are all about Might make the right brawl, Thragg could have easily thrown Battle Beast into space or even run away. Yet he didn’t he stayed and brawled him till one of them was left standing.
and you left out the “splat effect”
Omniman is going to break his hand punching Bardock and get manhandle like what happen to Red rush. even with equal stats all it take is simple zenkai and Omniman is screwed
I'm sure they're doing Spawn scaling vs whatever dragon ball meme scaling. Enjoyed the breakdown! I hope you do Simon v Kyle at some point, that one's got a fair bit of salt potential.
Do you think they will bring up Viltrumites weakness (like OmniMan Vs Homelander) as something bardock can take advantage of?
@circularnectarine1439 @circularnectarine1439 I mean home lander also didn't know, but if they do bring up for Bardock maybe they will compare him to other shout attacks that do affect the environment, but maybe they aren't loud enough.
Bardock is smoking omni literally only gets experience and probably combat and IQ, bardock gonna wash unc
Bardock was actually incredibly smart. People forget that Goku had major head injury that almost killed him when he was basically a Toddler. This affected his cognitive abilities.
He however is a combat genius.
Watching this video was painful. Seriously. You do not understand Dragon Ball at all, nor its power system. Therefore, you should not have weighed in on this discussion.
But let me be clear. I do not believe Bardock will be able to touch Omniman because Omniman should be way faster, too fast for Bardock, and should therefore win.
The speed in space is continent so he is not having thing slow him down and can fly sleeping
😂 I clicked off at Virginia 😮????
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Bardock has over 10k Power Level, and can therefore no diff blow up a planet in an instant
@@discobites
Thats dbz bardock who has 10,000
The dbs bardock was retconned and toriyama said he never reached mid class and raditz was a mid class and raditz got a recent retcon on his power level 1,600
So this means bardocks base (dbs) is around 1,000
@@Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me oh damn I never knew that. Dragon Ball feats are still crazy tho, Piccolo post-Raditz but before training time skip was able to instantly blow up the moon from afar
@@discobites yeah that is a crazy feat an piccolo was around 400's an sumthin, i mean so where the phantom saiyans- scarface and shorty they were low class saiyans power levels of: 450&500 and they toyed with the z fighters but the new bardock can turn false super sayain giving him 25 × multiplier, that's how he beat gas, and dbs bardock as a false super sayains power level would be at 25,000 and gas berserker would be at dodoria level u can see the same energy wave bardock used resembles the same one dodorias mouth wave beam (he used to overpower dbz bardock) in destruction it's, only logical and gas after 40 years of training became captain ginyu level.
@@discobites but true dbs bardock as a false super sayain that would have a power level of 25,000 would be pretty op he would be able to beat almost all of frieza's elite henchmen he would be able to beat zarbon unless zarbon transforms to his monster form heck fssj bardock would be able to beat vegeta before vegeta got zenkai from loosing to monster zarbon and he could beat guldo, cui, dodoria, turles before eating fruit and his henchmen, garlic jr. From the first appearance but would lose to the rest of the ginyu force and monster form zarbon
Bardocks cannon power lever was around 10k
Raditz was 1200 max and faster then speed of light.
Regardless if roshi at 120 could blow the moon up in seconds.so raditz could blow up the earth.Goku could dodge that at the same power level. So was kid goku faster than the speed of light. Then 120x speed of light to bardock.
And with invincible physics Omni mad would turn into pinch dust at full impact smashing into bardock.
@@cameronbell7052
Dbz old school non canon bardock is 10,000
Toriyama retconned the dbs bardock stating he never reached mid class and raditz was a mid class and raditz also got a recent retcon on his power level 1,600 which means bardock base is at around 1,000
Heres your prediction. Omni man dies instantly there
Bro scaled bardock so wrong it's crazy
My brother in christ... Bardock obliterates OmniMan
even low class saiyan warriors destroy planets with so much ease it's not even funny.
Omniman needed 3 other elite viltrumites to destroy one planet
They didn't even destroy it to smithereens the way saiyans can. The sheer power difference will humble omniman
Bardock 4c
Omni man 6c
Bardoc easy solos
Omni man isnt planetary
I actually felt you are right on the money. If DC and Marvel proven anything, superior speed can get around more powerful opponents. Which is already being heavily overlooked by a lot of people. Let's be honest Omni-Man already has exactly what he needs to win. Bardock likely going to burst through his energy supply fast. He lacks the training his son has that would've helped a lot against Omni-Man. Another major critical factor is Omni-Man can manipulate his biology to increase resistance to attacks including fatal ones. He could survive losing a lot more of his body than Bardock to still win the fight.
Omni-Man is obviously more of a strategist. He has a lot more overall experience in comparison. Not only that, Bardock's tail is a weakness. Even removing it limits his potential to a degree. He's just lucky to have Super Saiyan form to help make up for that. Omni-Man among the strongest of his kind while Bardock on the lower edge for his race. People also need to realize there's a loop hole in King Kai's statement about Saiyans can fight anywhere. However Saiyans can't accept to several situations that could happen during a fight. In vice versa being a super hero for Earth. Omni-Man has to adapt on a daily basis.
Therefore, Omni-Man likely going to figure Bardock out. At an insanely faster rate than Bardock on the verge to trying to understand what's going on. It's also very important note Bardock is not his son Goku either. A lot of people jump heavily on Dragon Ball characters capable of destroying planets. Omni-Man simply wait for opportunities while Bardock going to attempt rushing things. Especially not great to do on an dying planet losing oxygen. It's also critical to note Omni-Man already at his strongest by default. Bardock needs to transform in some fights to better his chances. It's also a possibility Omni-Man could realize to not allow Bardock any transformations too.
Thing is Bardock isn’t dumb brute and still skilled fighter he ain’t going to waste ki trying to catch
Also speed is really useless when lack hax and can even hurt you opponent
Made worse with how invincible hitting stronger person gets you breaking your own body doing so
Bardock literally is the only low classed saiyan that has trained. He’s also multi planetary levels of power while Omni man is barely moon level. I’m pretty sure Omni man is cooked.
@@spinozilla2421 Bardock has more common sense than most Saiyans of his time we all can agree to that. He still likely going to run out first because well it's a recurring theme in Dragon Ball franchise. Again speed can be the very thing you need in any situation. Characters like The Flash is clear proof of that. As for being moon close to planet level, Omni-Man isn't weak either. He still has plenty of ways to turn the tides in his favor. Like hit a particular spot on an planet to cause it to blow up. Exactly what Frieza once done before it got prevented afterwards.
Therefore, the power argument in that area doesn't seem to matter. If he's moon level then he should still cause an planet to explode. He can hold his breath a lot longer than Bardock. Even if the planet doesn't blow up but on the verge of dying. Bardock suddenly has a time limit he can't do much about. Super Saiyan form does help his chances to a degree. I also felt if Omni-Man can get in close ready to kill. 8 out of 10 times he's going to kill Bardock. Not only that, he fought a bigger variety of enemies too. Bardock doesn't offer much to throw Omni-Man off his game.
@@xboxclown8922 No power argument matters as the gap is too big on this moon- a small planet vs a Large to dwarf star lvl. Omniman is weak and has no way of winning,
Flash isn’t proof you do realize the has something called the speed force aka a hax that gives tons of abilties such as phasing, stealling speed, aging manuplation and stuff that give him easy win to people he can’t hurt. Omniman has nothing like that with also made worse how invincable when there is power gap waker person breaks there body trying to hurt the stronger person, as seen with children of Thragg turning into red mist trying to ram Mark and Nolan, or with Nolan himself having his hand turn to mush punching Thragg.
Omni not can’t destroy a regular-sized planet without assistance, they space racer gun to destabilize the core or else they die from impact, and besides that, Why? Omniman has never shown to do this as a tactic let alone this out of Character as Omni-man and Viltrumite as a whole are Warriors with a Might makes Right mentality, like sayaians they are people who thrill for the fight a good example is Thragg vs Battle beast, Thragg could just throw flightless battle beast into space or just fly away, but he didn’t he chose to fight till one of them was left standing. not this just a tertiary factor, you soling basing fight take place on a planet with space, put this fight endless white void or lock both of them in a indesctuble cage and Omni-man loses that option
Bardock is literally faster than light
actual bait video
Death battles are lazy
bardock would make omni man look like krillin, which is a stretch because krillin could probably also solo omni man.
Prediction: The idiots at Deathbattle HATE Dragon Ball. They will come up with some pathetic excuse to let their favorite win
Roshi vs Jiraiya
Vegeta vs Shadow
Hercule vs Dan Hibiki
Frieza vs Megatron
Android 18 vs Captain Marvel
HULK vs BROLY
What do I expect though, Dragon Ball fans don’t even watch or read their own show, how do I expect them to keep track of the fights they have won?
Not all of us. People are just baffled that Goku lost to anyone at all given his ludicrous power. Superman is just that strong. However, Omniman is going to be incinerated
But what about-
Trunks vs. silver
Kirby vs. Buu
Thor vs. Vegeta
Goku black vs. Reverse flash
@@arborist3227everyone knows death battle is dogshit when it comes to scaling they have Dio running to the sun and back in terms of speed.
honestly characters blowing the moon in dragon ball seems to me something of an early installment weirdness. I would not use it as a point of comparison.
huh actually your explanation about mass does make the moon thing more logical in-story. I always considered only high class saiyans or frieza had the power the blow up planets - its what made them such a menace.
It’s a genuine feat that should be used.
Dude the genius feat and not some outlier as moon disappearance is constant brought up even in the sayian saga with vegeta shock he can’t spot the moon as that was the back up plan
part of me thinks they'll bring in supreme scaling into the mix but I highly doubt they'd bring in stuff like xenoverse (since you can at least make the argument that since omni-man debut in supreme, its valid), either way, I do think its easier to argue omni-man
For one, the guy is smarter, the moment he realizes Bardock needs air nothing is stopping him from just grabbing him and flying him into space. And this isn't a rare tactic, characters in invincible have done it before
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Nolan is going to hit Bardock with a taste of something he can't afford
Bardock's definitely winning tho, he's 100% gonna feel how Homelander felt
@@Right_Bumper true tho omni mans speed might help him make the fight longer
@@MadeByFearbardock is faster not sure bout omni man i believe hes near that catergory of speed
Omniman is much faster than Bardock but much weaker.
@@lightningandodinify And as we've learned from Death Battle, speed isn't everything