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The funniest thing in this episode for me is that actually Cherri didnt reject Sir Pentious, she smiled and just asked "well why should I" she was following the game at her own way, but poor shy boy didnt expect that question, probably he expected an absolute rejection on the thought from her part. I didnt thought i would, but i kinda ship them now, I hope we get more interactions with them in the future
Yeah, that was actually really sweet of her not flat out turning him down but trying to get him to admit he likes her. That is unless she knew he’d react that way and was just f*cking with him 😂
Didn't she literally reject him brutally at the hotel? At that point she was just too wasted to care, she's obviously going through her own shit. Addict backstory hint + "I'll just sleep with the first guy I see" to prove how "well" she's doing to Angel.
@@robbieking4070 well that is where he needs to try and improve so the game goes on in a good way XD Seeing that smirk on her face i could tell that if the guy has been courageous and sweet in his response, she would be probably the one surprised and unable to answer back. So I BEG Viv for more of this dynamic xD.
@@anitaremenarova6662Than again I’m pretty sure that was when he was starting to fall for Cherri Unless I’m stupid and he liked her prior to that despite seeing each other as enemies at first
@@hexbug9737Ya there’s a theory where Nifty actually use to be a Overlord and would clean up after exterminations and collect the souls(idk how that works) but she met Alastor and her love for bad boys made her strike a deal with him
There's a subtle menace to what Sera told Emily at the end. She said "if you start questioning, you could end up fallen like Lucifer, and I can't bear that". Except from what we saw in the first episode's opening, it was Sera who cast Lucifer into hell in the first place, not just something that "has to happen". So that comes across as an actual threat, a sort of manipulative "I love you, so don't make me hurt you" BS. I'm on the fence as to how much I think Sera really knows, but she's definitely got some gross and dangerous undertones.
I think Sera was just the one who did the order which came presumably from god(I would have to assume because I don't think angels can decide to cast out other angels, that would be a higher-up decision presumably.). I think the idea is Sera knows that if Emily would be cast out, she would have to do it.
also, her halo gems and her hair suddenly open eyes, meaning something could be watching HER actions and commanding her. maybe she was forced by whoever controls the eyes to cast lucifer into hell
Y’know what I like about this show the most? It’s the song clashes, when them singing feels like a fight, and when the duet happened with the same melody as Hell is Forever, but with their own lyrics defying Adam, it just went so hard.
my absolute favourite type of musical theatre song is the duel duet (see also: Stayed Gone, Confrontation from Jekyll and Hyde, What is This Feeling from Wicked, etc) and having that trope combined with a court scene and the new alliance between charlie and emily was absolutely awesome
I'm happy they didn't go the route of making all of the Angels the "Bad Guys". Instead the exterminations were kept a secret from most of them. Also really proud of Angel and his progress!
@@anitaremenarova6662 idk i think its pretty obvious by his characterization that the whole "protecting heaven" nonsense was mostly for the seraphim's comfort. They clearly relish in their job killing sinners
Theres flawed people everywhere and I like it. How some demons are irrecuperable piece of shit like valentino, but so is adam and he’s an angel. Vaggie is a good fallen angel who previously did wrong. (That awkward moment when you get kicked out of heaven for being good). Emily is a pure angel and so is Charlie except she’s a demon. Love it how it’s not all black and white but not all « Actshually everyone is morally gray🤓 »
My theory is that Adam got into Heaven because of one of two reasons: Either Heaven let him in, regardless of how he actually behaved during life, because Eve went to Hell (she *did* bite the apple after all) and Heaven didn't want the new realm to claim both souls, or because he spent the rest of his life acting nice - the key word being 'acting'.
I believe Adam being in heaven is because he doesn't doubt the system placed by god, Serra warning suggests that if you doubt the system you will fall which will also explain why Angel is still in hell despite clearly still improving
I read a theory that basically since Adam was the first one into Heaven he became the “standard” of what a good person was - as more people died that standard keep changing so now to get into heaven you got to be peak good. Adam got lucky basically by being the first as no standard of what a good person was made yet until he died.
Glad to see that Angel Dust’s sister is in heaven. I don’t know if she saw her brother’s progress during the trial, but I’m glad she got a cameo in this episode
@@kati... The pink and white spider girl that showed up throughout the “Welcome to Heaven” song. She’s Angel Dust’s twin sister from when Vivzie was coming up with Hazbin
I like how after episode 4 Angel is not "forcing" his voice to more feminine and sexier (with the accent), he's just talking normally now (his voice is more low now),and bitching about Valentino which we stan.
Yes! I noticed right after Loser, Baby, when he and Husk came back in the hotel, Angel was making fun of Valentino. And in the beginning of ep 6 right after that, he was complaining abt Val
I mean she's third in rank of Hell's power hierarchy. Just her personality that makes her not act in her power. But I'm sure she'd make an exception for killing Adam to flex her REAL power.
Forget Adam vs Charlie, I wanna see Adam vs *Alastor!* He told Charlie they’ll hit the Hotel first and Alastor wants the Hotel intact … if Carmilla can kill an Angel I’m will to wager Alastor could do (given Adam’s obvious corruption)
Maybe the angels in heaven don't know the rules for entering Heaven because simply questioning what the rules are can cause you to go to Hell. It's treated like "this is how it's been and always will be". Sera implies this when she worries Emily's disobedience will cause her to fall, while Vaggie is a fallen angel because she had second thoughts. Adam, despite being a shitty person that belong in hell, never questions his actions because it better fits the black-and-white morality being enforced between Heaven and Hell.
I don't think it's that simple, Sera and possibly other elders decide who gets banished in the upper echelon and they tolerate Adam only because nobody else has the guts to lead the exterminations.
The thing is there was no big official decree that Vaggie was 'Fallen" it was entirely just Adam and Lute deciding it on the spot. Likely only getting away with it because Sera was the only person in any authority that might be able to call him on it, and she seems like she doesn't really want details about what goes on with the Exterminations, so if none of the other Exterminators mentioned it, she likely never realized what was done.
I think it's because they are supposed just to represent real people in the world, not... actual supernatural beings. In the first place, the fact the life in hell and heaven just looks like average dystopian poor/utopian rich setting but thoroughly earthly life with all the earthly habits down to MONEY is weird, the fact afterlife is basically like life. There is no real difference beside the "fly around, energy blasts" magical powers, just... look the fact they can get killed, a thing should be theorically impossible in afterlife. So angels don't know exactly the rules because real humans don't know exactly how it works either, and people have different theories about it. This show is... kinda a commentary against death penalty? Considering Charlie and co. are just against the extermination right now, not against the rules of Heaven in itself... they are not questioning rules, only the extermination and the fact the damnation is eternal (but even that, they are questioning it because it is used to excuse the extermination)... they are actually trying to work WITHIN the rules, not questioning the rules are wrong in the first place, they just want to know what the rules actually are. And they remitting to godly judgment... actually works, considering the ending of season 1... so the problem are not the rules, apparently, just the fact Adam decided to bring extermination in the game.
Sera's whole "They were uprising!" is so ironic. The yearly exterminations and refusing to take in kind souls is such a self-fulfilling prophecy since these actions is what will lead to an uprising in the first place.
@@codebracker Entirely possible! But my point is that she's enabling the situation all over again. You can only do so much before the other party bites back.
Dude, I’m so proud of Angel this episode. His character development is AMAZING!!! The way he was acting like such a big brother for Niffty is so sweet. I’m happy for him, he feels as if he has a family, people who really love him for who he is.
I agree his interactions with Niffty were adorable. I do wish they showed us a little bit of his development happening on screen between episode 4 and 6 though
6:45 I talked to my friend about this “reveal” late last night. I told them that it bugged me-despite Vaggie being so adept with a spear-why was her hair so long? It’s a small thing, but I say this because usually people in the military or similar positions need to have as short hair as possible, or at least out of the way of their eyes right? But I think Vaggie grew out her hair, because it’s a coping mechanism to still feel comfortable like when she still had her angel wings. Her hair seems to be almost as long as them too. Also explains why she liked going up to the ship near the top of the Hotel. She probably missing flying, so being able to go up there is the best substitute. 🥺
It could also be read as a rejection of her past and the person she was trained to be. We know she's spent the last three years (at minimum) dealing with a degree of self-loathing, something that wouldn't be helped by seeing the face of a soldier looking back at her from the mirror -- letting her hair grow out like that is a simple way to change that part of her self-image. (I've had college courses with wounded veterans who've done similar things to try and create distance between themselves and their traumas.)
Good on Angel Dust for sticking up to Valentino! That heart to heart/song he shared with Husk must’ve given him lots of courage. I really hope they get together soon.
@@Okk681 Yeah. Season 1 is already rushed enough as is. I still really enjoy it though but I can see why some people, (UA-camr SarcasticChorus), has a problem with the pacing.
@@cassandraspoelhof3752 I know a lot of people don't care and even say it isn't a problem, but when the majority of criticism is about the pacing, what is it then if not a problem? I hate when people think somebody is just hating on the show when they point it out, because I love it but I can clearly see it isn't perfect and not making excuses for that. I just want the show to be at its best - and its best seems to be when it slows down a bit, like in episode 4.
@@Okk681It really sucks that they had to break it down so much. A minimum of twelve Episodes for season one would have done much better, especially with how many characters there are to flesh out.
@@justanothermonster6442 True, it’s unfortunate - but I am super excited to see the next episodes because it feels the most unpredictable for me. And hopefully they take in the feedback for season 2, plus given more time because the show is clearly popular and doing well !
ANGEL’S DEVELOPMENT IS SO CRAZY!!! SEEING HIM GENUINELY CARE ABOUT NIFTY HAD ME CRYINGGGG IM SO PROUD OF HIM FOR DOING RIGHT BY CHARLIE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWINH
I get the feeling the series is gonna end with the creation of Purgatory, Dante style where you have to deal with your mistakes BEFORE you get to go to heaven, idk how going to hell works with all that but I'm no theologist.
Charlie's voice and face when she says/sings "It not fair Sera!" is so damn perfect. You can see and hear how rightfully angry she is without her demon form showing, like she's holding back just enough.
I like the detail that once Adam accidentally exposes the he holds the extermination, all the Angels in the council were actually horrified by the exterminations
I agree that Adam is probably doing it because Lilith ran out on him-- Adam is very prideful, which is hilarious, considering Lucifer's sin was supposedly pride. It really looks like a bruised ego. If there is any uprising starting in Hell, who could blame them? After years of hundreds to thousands of souls getting permanently killed? Thank you for the videos! Can't wait to see where this goes!
Personally I think Charlie will forgive Vaggie and hear her out, cause thats what she does (unless Alastor convinces Charlie otherwise). Oh theres going to be some trust issues but im sure theyll work through them.
@robbieking4070 I actually didn't know that (the upcoming love song) so thank you for the info! Again, I just don't see Charlie not forgiving Vaggie as that would be incredibly out of character for her (so a 99.9% chance she forgives Vaggie). The only scenario that comes to mind where Charlie doesn't forgive Vaggie is if Alastor gets involved for whatever reason and if for some inexplicable reason, Charlie chooses to listen to him (so a 0.1% chance at best)
The part of 'You Didn't Know' where Charlie and Emily (the young seraphim) were singing the reprise of 'Hell Is Forever' gave me fucking chills man, so good.
I love how everything contradicts in this show, Lute said in ep 1 that angels don't make mistakes and yet Vaggie made a "mistake" by disobeying the exterminators and becoming fallen, and it can both go two ways, the "mistake" can also be on Lute's part of her choosing to befall Vaggie.
I absolutely love Emily, she's adorable and I'm so glad that she is on Charlie's side. Plus her singing in You Didn't Know was wonderful, especially the part where she and Charlie dueted.
"We have our own souls to protect in heaven." FROM WHAT??? I think that's the biggest question I have, which is what justification does Heaven have for this? We don't know if there's a bigger threat they're stopping, or if it's a self-caused problem.
People are interpreting it as a bribe but I honestly thought that Charlie just viewed it as her compensating Cherri’s time - just in that overly enthusiastic way we’d expect from her.
@Bleep5980 Charlie is the daughter of Lucifer who was one of God's angels, Emily is a Seraphim, a class of angels that only God can create as they do not come from humans. Lucifer is the equivalent of a brother to Seraphins.
Emily would not fall as lucifer did, it would not make sense with how the show is portrayed, if that's the case then why make her the same as charlie personality whise? I think Emily would replace her sister sera as the ruler of heaven and with help of chalrie would make purgatory
I doubt she was thinking that, even if Cherry took it that way. Honestly, it was probably more along the lines of, "I can't be there to pay, so here's some money to cover any charges."
in case no one noticed, we finally saw Molly in the background of the "Welcome to Heaven" song, to the left of St. Peter. It's confirmed you guys; Angel Dust's sister Molly IS IN HEAVEN!!!
RIGHT!? If only she could see how her brother is doing. She would be so happy (and trigger happy about certain moth) Also iirc Alastor's mother is confirmed by Vipsie ti be also in heaven which raises......a lot of questions. Like, what part of the family screw up enough to have Alastor be...Alastor
That reprise/remix of Hell is Forever was SO damn good! I legit shot up out of my chair when that happened. Having them turn Adams song right back on him was soooooo satisfying!
After all that happened in the angel court if anyone tries any crap to hurt her friends I think Charlie will break her limits and unleash her full powers
*“If Hell is forever then Heaven must be a lie, if angels can do whatever and remain in the sky, the rules are shades of gray when you don’t do as you say when you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again”* Truer words have never been sung. If angels can fall then why can’t demons rise? I would never want to go to any afterlife where they are so elitist and bigoted that even if a demon lived up to their standards they still couldn’t be allowed in.
Depends of the sins the demons have done. If he was just a robber and go to purgatory to rise to heaven I think no problem, but if it's one of the worst sinner (AKA child r*pist/groomer/predator, mass murderer, terrorist...) he can just go to the deepest of hell forever
15:16 Charlie and Emily are so alike, imagine if they were sisters... after all Lilith had a first husband (Adam), why couldn't Lucifer have been married to Sera?
@@StefonTV1 If Sera is an angel, then mayhap God is her father. Making Lucifer her brother. Which by extent would make Charlie and Emily cousins. But that's pure speculation.
@@philippeblais8594 maybe cousins is better, but I thought of "sisters" because as soon as I saw them singing together, and being practically the opposite, they reminded me of Tinkerbell and her sister in the movie "The Secret of the Wings" lol
Ya know, The funny thing is. Adam are breaking the cardinal sins just as much as the sinners. If nothing else the man and his subordinates literally commits genocide/murder on yearly bases. Say what you want, “thou shall not kill” leave little for interpretation, when even he said “until we *kill* them again”
If you didn't notice already this isn't meant to be 100% recreation of christian canon. If that were the case we wouldn't have a show because hell would pose 0 threat to heavens.
@@anitaremenarova6662 well, it does show that some canon seem to apply. Like how the angelic hierarchy works, as well as the whole creation story. Adding on how the human world has churches and the like in hellavus boss. It is plausible to say that at least cardinal sin may be a thing. Also, they made it very clear that murder as a behavior is consider bad, yet Adam and his gang indulge in such behavior which would indicates their act of evil. The point is, something fishy is going on. Either ascension/descension isn’t possible. Or ascension/ descension is not base upon one’s deed, but some other conditions.
Ok hearing Saint Peter, Jesus' rock on which he'd build his church, say fuck is hilarious. Actually I'd say Husk is more like Angel's sponsor, someone who's gonna hold him accountable. Also gotta love how Sera is disgusted by Adam saying he'll be targeting the hotel
There was a ton of info in this episode. I'm sure we'll see later, but i wonder what all it is that is intimidating Sera to keep up the extermination. Loved the Huskerdust moments, like having each other's backs and the soft looks when Angel handed Husk Nifty's drink, etc. Lol. Friggin Sir Pentious and Cherri i think would actually make a good couple of they could figure each other out. She seemed upset about something and making like how Angel does. Pentious is sucha lovable goofball and genuine, i bet Cherri could use that in her life. Very proud of Angel, but it worries me what Val might end up doing to him next. It'll be interesting to see where we go from here!
I'm really curious how the earthborn winners will act once the word is spread that their loved ones that went to hell have to fear total annihilation once a year (if they weren't already killed and subsequently erased from existence)
Imagine learning you 'good' leader had the first man go down and kill your parents/kids/family, and they are already gone, you'll never get to ever meet their souls again. I'd probably fall from heaven then, it would be too much.
My thought is Charlie will turn to Vaggie to talk about it and Vaggie will run off (for a triumphant return because Adam made another mistake telling Charlie the hotel would be first) but I worry what Charlie might do and who she might turn to. Like, I am kind of expecting to learn that she and Velvette might have been friends and she's ready for a war.
Yaknow, Alastor just learned you can kill angles and now they're saying that they're gonna pull up to the hotel doorstep. I think another angle is about to die 😭
Just a random theory but- Sera is older and taller than Emily. I may be overthinking but this could possibly mean that seraphims start short but get taller as time progressess. Lucifer was a seraphim, maybe even one of the first seraphims, but he's short, like *really* short. What if Lucifer is short because he fell at such a young age and stopped growing when he fell
This is probably the most stressful episode for me KJFHGKFSG Pinning the entire fate of Hell on Angel's shoulders without him even knowing had me *so* stressed the whole time ^^' But it's a *really* well-done one. There's so many good plot twists and reveals in this episode.
I do love this series so far, though I must say I do feel like everything was going really fast. And I get that they limiting it down to 8 episode for one season. Im just saying. I miss the days when a Season contained atleast 25 or more episodes.
Knowing how companies are now with cutting shows and movies, they had to probably move things quickly. Just in case their stuff gets cut/canceled, at least they got their story out.
This is one of the biggest problems with streaming. It's nice that they don't get screwed over trying to fight for a timeslot on cable tv but some shows really suffer from being so short. Usually by having a forced or rushed conclusion or having episodes feel bloated with exposition and weird pacing. At least this show is getting a second season. That gives it a little more room to breathe and try to stick the landing.
@@darkwatershadow I know and I hate that so much!!! I used to remember when One Season was atleast 25 episodes or more! Now I wish they tell the people doing the story exactly how many episodes they can get guaranteed. So that way they can move around that many episodes.
Its not to bad, though i dont miss the 25 episodes a season”, you have to remember many of those episodes in such long seasons were entirely episodic with zero consequences for future episodes. So in a large story sense they had no meaning overall, just one offs you’d forget about. And there was never any character development. Thats why the simpsons for example bart never changes, homer is always stupid ect. Whereas in serialized story telling like here we get to see angel dust go from just another whore to a better person.
6:20 it is crazy how everyone’s theorys ending uo being true, LITERALLY JUST INE LITTLE X ON HER EYE AND PEOPLE GOT IT I feel so bad for vaggie, how they literally ripped her wings off her must be painful. I just wonder how the next episode will be with Charlie knowing that’s she’s a ex angel
Aro-Aces can still be in the relationsships we shouldn't categorize that - they may be exes for each other But owning a soul is almost certain at this point
One thing that's wild is the fact that if you think about it, isn't Charlie an angel too? Her dad is a fallen angel and mom used to be a human iirc, so she's more angelic than anyone else in Hell. I wonder what position that puts her in as her power grows and she actually fights
You'd think that koalas would be in hell though because of their unpredictable emotions, extremely high stupidity and the fact that they are far more violent than they appear
Honestly, while the show itself and a lot of fans seem to think that this makes Heaven/Hell arbitrary, if anything I think it shows the opposite. Bear in mind, the Angels revealed in this episode that they in fact do not have any control over who is on The List (Saint Peter looking quite flustered looking through the book, like a poorly trained temp who doesn't really know what he's doing), yet souls show up in Heaven without the angels permission or involvement. It isn't that Heaven is exclusionary and deliberately keeping people out - Heaven itself doesn't even know the rules. This in fact suggests to me that the story of the angels creating creation is also untrue, otherwise why wouldn't they know their own rules? Either they created everything so long ago that they've actually forgotten their own rules; or they're nothing more than stewards blindly running a creation they in fact had no direct hand in creating. Of course this does suggest the Big Man Upstairs may very well be a thing, though we could be looking at more of a deist "Divine Watch Maker" concept of God, a being who basically created all things, but has since left creation to it's own devices but with foundational rules in place that even the angels don't know/forgot. Another idea could be for God to be much more of an eldritch entity, something akin to Truth from Full Metal Alchemist, a being that isn't simply Bigger Stronger Angel but is in fact some cosmic concept and sum-total of all existence. In such a scenario, maybe even Heaven and Hell aren't 'final destinations' but instead are another step on souls journeys to true salvation/ascension, with Heaven being a gilded cage meant to test the 'virtue' of those who end up there while Hell is meant as a place to both punish those who sinned but feel guilt (Husk and Angel Dust) and also as a temptation to those more inclined towards that lifestyle (Cherri Bomb and Alastor). In either case, souls are further tempered in their afterlife, and most do not succeed to either escape the glamerous gilded cage of Heaven or the horrible torments of Hell. This could even explain why someone like Adam is in Heaven despite it making no sense; for Adam Heaven may not even be all that Heavenly since we see him chafe quite a bit and it's obvious he seems to feel stifled... yet wouldn't that actually be a sort of ironic punishment for someone like him? This is all just speculative on my part of course, and it's likely I'm WAYYY off with this, but it's fun to think about on a philosophical level
Really enjoyed your perspectives and insights. It's a fascinating show, and its fascinating seeing how people respond to it. I'm also finding myself almost obsessed with the show. Each song gets better every time I hear it, but they make so many good songs. I almost can't keep up. Then the story, and the character growth... I LOVE that Angel Dust, unknowingly, was the one that inspired that reaction in Heaven. I don't know how to feel bonding with so many amazing characters so rapidly! Amazing experience.
I hope they deliver on this thing going on with heaven. I was pretty disappointed when I found out they were just doing a cliche "oh heaven is actually corrupt" thing. But heaven themselves not actually knowing what gets them in there, that mystery can be a neat spin on it if they deliver.
For me, this episode just makes me long for more Angel Dust focused stories. Seeing him stand up to Val was very satisfying (even if I wish there were a few more episodes with him dealing with his trauma, maybe talking it over with Husk). In the same vein, when Lute refers to him as a "crack w$#%re who f$#$ed up already," I felt this sick pit of sadness and anger in my stomach. For me, Angel is the heart of the show. I really do hope that they go more into his character in the next season.
They definitely time skipped a little bit of his character development already; I hope they don't rush it any further. Also, I love Angel and he is my favorite, but we need to explore more about the other characters just as much; he is only just one of the main characters after all. The best thing in the show for me are their interactions together.
@@Okk681 Totally! I think people have speculated that they were in a position similar to the creators of Legend of Korra, where they did not know if there was going to be a second season, and were like “get everything done in the first season!” Again, hopefully the second season has some more character development and kinda slims things down. Lotta plots this season!😅
I agree with the thing about drinking. You can hang out with people who are drinking and not participate, I never understood why it's less fun for other people to not drink.
Just a little side comment. I loved how Angel seems to be more comfortable now especially since he and Husk got closer. He doesnt talk very feminine anymore. Also his interactions with husk in the backroung in the club is very cute especially when he gave husk another drink, they way they looked at eachother throughout the last 2 episodes makes my heart full. Also it was cute how Angel and Husk looked like parents to niffty😭
I love Emily soso much, it honestly feels like her and Charlie could be long lost sisters, I really hope that we get to see her again, maybe defending hell againt heaven's extermination
I wonder if in the next episodes Lucifer will show up to fight against the exorcist because he clearly cares about Charlie. But then again it may not matter how strong he is because he made an agreement to let the extermination happen with exception to hellborn kind. So maybe he can't interfere which goes against his contract with them. Unless he can simply undo it on a whim. If he plays in a role in upcoming episodes it'll be interesting to see what he does.
Go back and watch episode 3. The reveal about Vaggie in episode 6 makes her dialogue with Charlie in ep. 3 and her lyrics in the Whatever it Takes song hit so much harder.
A have a theory about episodes 1 and what happened when nifty was on camera, I think because Alastor doesn’t like to be on camera the people he values as souls and made deals with can’t speak or seem real on camera that’s why nifty was soulless in the recording cause Alastors soul dealing on people I hope you like and see this🎉
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Fuck adum so god dam much I don’t even care I did’t say his name right just fuck him he is the worst
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Lucifer Morningstar is finally here and my theory about Alastor, Vaggie and Lute has finally come true.
The funniest thing in this episode for me is that actually Cherri didnt reject Sir Pentious, she smiled and just asked "well why should I" she was following the game at her own way, but poor shy boy didnt expect that question, probably he expected an absolute rejection on the thought from her part.
I didnt thought i would, but i kinda ship them now, I hope we get more interactions with them in the future
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, SIR PENTIOUS ACTUALLY HAD THE CHANCE IF IT WEREN'T BECAUSE HE'S TOO SHY AND SOCIALLY AKWARD.
Yeah, that was actually really sweet of her not flat out turning him down but trying to get him to admit he likes her. That is unless she knew he’d react that way and was just f*cking with him 😂
Didn't she literally reject him brutally at the hotel? At that point she was just too wasted to care, she's obviously going through her own shit. Addict backstory hint + "I'll just sleep with the first guy I see" to prove how "well" she's doing to Angel.
@@robbieking4070 well that is where he needs to try and improve so the game goes on in a good way XD Seeing that smirk on her face i could tell that if the guy has been courageous and sweet in his response, she would be probably the one surprised and unable to answer back. So I BEG Viv for more of this dynamic xD.
@@anitaremenarova6662Than again I’m pretty sure that was when he was starting to fall for Cherri
Unless I’m stupid and he liked her prior to that despite seeing each other as enemies at first
I feel like Nifty would kill Val since she stabs bugs.
That is adorable
Oh actually I kinda wanna see that.
She was a shadow silhouette, when the image of all of the overloads were shown in the pilot just like Husk
So she likely has some thing to back her up
That would probably be a satisfying death scene
@@hexbug9737Ya there’s a theory where Nifty actually use to be a Overlord and would clean up after exterminations and collect the souls(idk how that works) but she met Alastor and her love for bad boys made her strike a deal with him
There's a subtle menace to what Sera told Emily at the end. She said "if you start questioning, you could end up fallen like Lucifer, and I can't bear that". Except from what we saw in the first episode's opening, it was Sera who cast Lucifer into hell in the first place, not just something that "has to happen". So that comes across as an actual threat, a sort of manipulative "I love you, so don't make me hurt you" BS. I'm on the fence as to how much I think Sera really knows, but she's definitely got some gross and dangerous undertones.
Yes she threathens her OWN SISTER emily to not question the metods, witch makes the elders a lot worst than hell because they care about control
I think Sera was just the one who did the order which came presumably from god(I would have to assume because I don't think angels can decide to cast out other angels, that would be a higher-up decision presumably.). I think the idea is Sera knows that if Emily would be cast out, she would have to do it.
I personally believe that there is some kind of higher force that dictates How to get into heaven and Who falls out.
also, her halo gems and her hair suddenly open eyes, meaning something could be watching HER actions and commanding her. maybe she was forced by whoever controls the eyes to cast lucifer into hell
@@shahinmotamedi654Lute decided that Vaggie should fall 🤷♂
_if hell is forever then heaven must be a lie_
Love the clap back to Adam
That line alone is metal af
Like, dayum, it gives me fucking chills and I love it
Dude i felt that
Its amazing to see a demon and an Angel
Just working together to do whats right it feels......
Perfect
I’m having trouble fully grasping the line, anyone could explain ?
@@Krantzingoing it mean that Heaven is no better than Hell through their double standards
@@slendermanvpdeath7893 i mean charlie isnt really an demon, shes half angel and half demon so
Y’know what I like about this show the most? It’s the song clashes, when them singing feels like a fight, and when the duet happened with the same melody as Hell is Forever, but with their own lyrics defying Adam, it just went so hard.
my absolute favourite type of musical theatre song is the duel duet (see also: Stayed Gone, Confrontation from Jekyll and Hyde, What is This Feeling from Wicked, etc) and having that trope combined with a court scene and the new alliance between charlie and emily was absolutely awesome
I'm happy they didn't go the route of making all of the Angels the "Bad Guys". Instead the exterminations were kept a secret from most of them. Also really proud of Angel and his progress!
I expected the writing to take this turn, Adam was always the necessary evil to protect heaven because none of the other angels had the guts for it.
YES, I loved this
@@anitaremenarova6662 idk i think its pretty obvious by his characterization that the whole "protecting heaven" nonsense was mostly for the seraphim's comfort. They clearly relish in their job killing sinners
Tehnically most of the angels more specifically the elders are corrupt, epsecially sera, Emily is the only one who is indeed pure at heart
Theres flawed people everywhere and I like it. How some demons are irrecuperable piece of shit like valentino, but so is adam and he’s an angel. Vaggie is a good fallen angel who previously did wrong. (That awkward moment when you get kicked out of heaven for being good). Emily is a pure angel and so is Charlie except she’s a demon. Love it how it’s not all black and white but not all « Actshually everyone is morally gray🤓 »
My theory is that Adam got into Heaven because of one of two reasons: Either Heaven let him in, regardless of how he actually behaved during life, because Eve went to Hell (she *did* bite the apple after all) and Heaven didn't want the new realm to claim both souls, or because he spent the rest of his life acting nice - the key word being 'acting'.
I believe Adam being in heaven is because he doesn't doubt the system placed by god, Serra warning suggests that if you doubt the system you will fall which will also explain why Angel is still in hell despite clearly still improving
@@darkwhispersstories47 OOh, good one!
I read a theory that basically since Adam was the first one into Heaven he became the “standard” of what a good person was - as more people died that standard keep changing so now to get into heaven you got to be peak good. Adam got lucky basically by being the first as no standard of what a good person was made yet until he died.
@@acey_rest3096 Also a good theory!
Somebody has to do the dirty work of extermination so Adam does it in exchange for having a place in Heaven.
Glad to see that Angel Dust’s sister is in heaven. I don’t know if she saw her brother’s progress during the trial, but I’m glad she got a cameo in this episode
what? who's his sister??
@@kati... The pink and white spider girl that showed up throughout the “Welcome to Heaven” song. She’s Angel Dust’s twin sister from when Vivzie was coming up with Hazbin
@@OtomostheCrazyyou’re right! If I remember correctly, her name is Molly, unless they changed it in the series.
Her name’s molly and she’s a good girl
@@imanieaddy7314And yet, "Molly" is *also* a slang term for a drug (MDMA, aka ecstasy).
I like how after episode 4 Angel is not "forcing" his voice to more feminine and sexier (with the accent), he's just talking normally now (his voice is more low now),and bitching about Valentino which we stan.
I LOVED THAT
He also stopped sexually harassing Husk
He have more and more an Italian accent I can also hear
He's also not moving as dainty or suggestive. He's a lot more assertive looking. Angel standing on business
Yes! I noticed right after Loser, Baby, when he and Husk came back in the hotel, Angel was making fun of Valentino. And in the beginning of ep 6 right after that, he was complaining abt Val
Can’t wait for Adam vs Charlie, feel like she’s much stronger than she lets on
I mean she's third in rank of Hell's power hierarchy. Just her personality that makes her not act in her power. But I'm sure she'd make an exception for killing Adam to flex her REAL power.
She is supposed to be stronger than every single sinner(and all the lords ALL)
The sins too.@@CF-or3ci
according to viv she's the second most powerful being below lucifer, I believe. But that was before we saw the angels.
Forget Adam vs Charlie, I wanna see Adam vs *Alastor!* He told Charlie they’ll hit the Hotel first and Alastor wants the Hotel intact … if Carmilla can kill an Angel I’m will to wager Alastor could do (given Adam’s obvious corruption)
Maybe the angels in heaven don't know the rules for entering Heaven because simply questioning what the rules are can cause you to go to Hell. It's treated like "this is how it's been and always will be". Sera implies this when she worries Emily's disobedience will cause her to fall, while Vaggie is a fallen angel because she had second thoughts. Adam, despite being a shitty person that belong in hell, never questions his actions because it better fits the black-and-white morality being enforced between Heaven and Hell.
I don't think it's that simple, Sera and possibly other elders decide who gets banished in the upper echelon and they tolerate Adam only because nobody else has the guts to lead the exterminations.
@@anitaremenarova6662 it makes elders not better than the sinners
The thing is there was no big official decree that Vaggie was 'Fallen" it was entirely just Adam and Lute deciding it on the spot. Likely only getting away with it because Sera was the only person in any authority that might be able to call him on it, and she seems like she doesn't really want details about what goes on with the Exterminations, so if none of the other Exterminators mentioned it, she likely never realized what was done.
I think it's because they are supposed just to represent real people in the world, not... actual supernatural beings. In the first place, the fact the life in hell and heaven just looks like average dystopian poor/utopian rich setting but thoroughly earthly life with all the earthly habits down to MONEY is weird, the fact afterlife is basically like life. There is no real difference beside the "fly around, energy blasts" magical powers, just... look the fact they can get killed, a thing should be theorically impossible in afterlife. So angels don't know exactly the rules because real humans don't know exactly how it works either, and people have different theories about it. This show is... kinda a commentary against death penalty? Considering Charlie and co. are just against the extermination right now, not against the rules of Heaven in itself... they are not questioning rules, only the extermination and the fact the damnation is eternal (but even that, they are questioning it because it is used to excuse the extermination)... they are actually trying to work WITHIN the rules, not questioning the rules are wrong in the first place, they just want to know what the rules actually are. And they remitting to godly judgment... actually works, considering the ending of season 1... so the problem are not the rules, apparently, just the fact Adam decided to bring extermination in the game.
Man good comment, that’s what I was thinking about. Everyone wants the rules to allow Sinners to be redeemed but nobody knows the how of the why.
Sera's whole "They were uprising!" is so ironic. The yearly exterminations and refusing to take in kind souls is such a self-fulfilling prophecy since these actions is what will lead to an uprising in the first place.
I think it implies they were uprising before they did the first extermination, but honestly I kind of doubt it.
Sera was probably just paranoid
@theycallmebad good to see you again.
Sera took a page out of Frieza's book it seems
@@codebracker Entirely possible! But my point is that she's enabling the situation all over again.
You can only do so much before the other party bites back.
@@JoshioE110 👋
Dude, I’m so proud of Angel this episode. His character development is AMAZING!!! The way he was acting like such a big brother for Niffty is so sweet. I’m happy for him, he feels as if he has a family, people who really love him for who he is.
I agree his interactions with Niffty were adorable. I do wish they showed us a little bit of his development happening on screen between episode 4 and 6 though
6:45 I talked to my friend about this “reveal” late last night. I told them that it bugged me-despite Vaggie being so adept with a spear-why was her hair so long? It’s a small thing, but I say this because usually people in the military or similar positions need to have as short hair as possible, or at least out of the way of their eyes right? But I think Vaggie grew out her hair, because it’s a coping mechanism to still feel comfortable like when she still had her angel wings. Her hair seems to be almost as long as them too. Also explains why she liked going up to the ship near the top of the Hotel. She probably missing flying, so being able to go up there is the best substitute. 🥺
Absolutely, her hair looks like wings and tail feathers.
It could also be read as a rejection of her past and the person she was trained to be. We know she's spent the last three years (at minimum) dealing with a degree of self-loathing, something that wouldn't be helped by seeing the face of a soldier looking back at her from the mirror -- letting her hair grow out like that is a simple way to change that part of her self-image. (I've had college courses with wounded veterans who've done similar things to try and create distance between themselves and their traumas.)
Sir Pentious blushing at cherri is everything for me
I ship them
@@DeezDeez-dn9gbI can't believe my prediction came true.
Good on Angel Dust for sticking up to Valentino! That heart to heart/song he shared with Husk must’ve given him lots of courage. I really hope they get together soon.
If it happens then it's heavily implied that it is going to be a slow burn... thank god. They really shouldn't rush these things imo
@@Okk681 Yeah. Season 1 is already rushed enough as is. I still really enjoy it though but I can see why some people, (UA-camr SarcasticChorus), has a problem with the pacing.
@@cassandraspoelhof3752 I know a lot of people don't care and even say it isn't a problem, but when the majority of criticism is about the pacing, what is it then if not a problem? I hate when people think somebody is just hating on the show when they point it out, because I love it but I can clearly see it isn't perfect and not making excuses for that. I just want the show to be at its best - and its best seems to be when it slows down a bit, like in episode 4.
@@Okk681It really sucks that they had to break it down so much.
A minimum of twelve Episodes for season one would have done much better, especially with how many characters there are to flesh out.
@@justanothermonster6442 True, it’s unfortunate - but I am super excited to see the next episodes because it feels the most unpredictable for me. And hopefully they take in the feedback for season 2, plus given more time because the show is clearly popular and doing well !
ANGEL’S DEVELOPMENT IS SO CRAZY!!! SEEING HIM GENUINELY CARE ABOUT NIFTY HAD ME CRYINGGGG IM SO PROUD OF HIM FOR DOING RIGHT BY CHARLIE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWINH
Right, when Charlie was singing and highlighting Angel in the globe, that hit me so hard!
I get the feeling the series is gonna end with the creation of Purgatory, Dante style where you have to deal with your mistakes BEFORE you get to go to heaven, idk how going to hell works with all that but I'm no theologist.
the hotel becoming purgatory would be amazing!!!
@@lunaeclips7570Would be great....if there was no S2
Charlie's voice and face when she says/sings "It not fair Sera!" is so damn perfect. You can see and hear how rightfully angry she is without her demon form showing, like she's holding back just enough.
21:20 The mask are almost certainly executioner hoods based on Adam's face, because he's the lead exorcist
He did say he loved putting his name on things. I could see him designing the masks that way because of his huge ego
Unless Adam’s also wearing a mask
That’s what I think too, the masks are made in Adam’s likeness.
Adam’s mask could be hiding something sinister about him that Lucifer reveals when they attack the hotel
I always found it weird why the masks are missing an eye just like Vaggie, Adam still has both his eyes
I like the detail that once Adam accidentally exposes the he holds the extermination, all the Angels in the council were actually horrified by the exterminations
I agree that Adam is probably doing it because Lilith ran out on him-- Adam is very prideful, which is hilarious, considering Lucifer's sin was supposedly pride. It really looks like a bruised ego. If there is any uprising starting in Hell, who could blame them? After years of hundreds to thousands of souls getting permanently killed? Thank you for the videos! Can't wait to see where this goes!
Personally I think Charlie will forgive Vaggie and hear her out, cause thats what she does (unless Alastor convinces Charlie otherwise). Oh theres going to be some trust issues but im sure theyll work through them.
Remember, the two of them have a love song together which we’ve yet to see. She’s totally going to forgive her.
@robbieking4070 I actually didn't know that (the upcoming love song) so thank you for the info! Again, I just don't see Charlie not forgiving Vaggie as that would be incredibly out of character for her (so a 99.9% chance she forgives Vaggie). The only scenario that comes to mind where Charlie doesn't forgive Vaggie is if Alastor gets involved for whatever reason and if for some inexplicable reason, Charlie chooses to listen to him (so a 0.1% chance at best)
Well duh, still fucked up of her to not tell Charlie immediately after Adam made the threat.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Vaggie would be afrade of charlie seen her as an monster
I love the fact the show gave us a good angel with Emily.
The part of 'You Didn't Know' where Charlie and Emily (the young seraphim) were singing the reprise of 'Hell Is Forever' gave me fucking chills man, so good.
Same!
I love how everything contradicts in this show, Lute said in ep 1 that angels don't make mistakes and yet Vaggie made a "mistake" by disobeying the exterminators and becoming fallen, and it can both go two ways, the "mistake" can also be on Lute's part of her choosing to befall Vaggie.
I absolutely love Emily, she's adorable and I'm so glad that she is on Charlie's side. Plus her singing in You Didn't Know was wonderful, especially the part where she and Charlie dueted.
"We have our own souls to protect in heaven." FROM WHAT??? I think that's the biggest question I have, which is what justification does Heaven have for this? We don't know if there's a bigger threat they're stopping, or if it's a self-caused problem.
Abaddonarts
To be fair I think Adam told a bunch of lies about that happening to Sera when it's really not and Sera believed him
Charlie bribing cherry bomb is wayyy too funny man 😭
People are interpreting it as a bribe but I honestly thought that Charlie just viewed it as her compensating Cherri’s time - just in that overly enthusiastic way we’d expect from her.
@@TheLastHylianTitan true
drinks had to be on her anyways if it's a hotel excursion
Emily is straight up the mirror inverse of Charlie
I mean they are cousins
@@codebracker???😊
@Bleep5980 Charlie is the daughter of Lucifer who was one of God's angels, Emily is a Seraphim, a class of angels that only God can create as they do not come from humans.
Lucifer is the equivalent of a brother to Seraphins.
@@I_want_a_discount_in_life ahhh I get it, wonder if we’ll get to meet god or evil equivalent as shown in the 2min intro. Or maybe roo aka maybe eve
@@I_want_a_discount_in_life wait, so then Emily is Charile's...aunt?
Angel Dust's sister was in heaven
Bullshit! We know for a fact that she works in hell!
I call SOURCE?
Molly
@@KozumaYT yeep
Molly! 🩷🤍🕷️✨
I love how Angel genuinely cares for Niffty, so cute.
It’s funny how I would think Nifty could actually scare Val
I think that the little angel will question why they kill the demons in hell, causing her to go to hell and become a fallen angel
Maybe be.... Azazel??
Emily would not fall as lucifer did, it would not make sense with how the show is portrayed, if that's the case then why make her the same as charlie personality whise? I think Emily would replace her sister sera as the ruler of heaven and with help of chalrie would make purgatory
@@Bluesh4d00w nope we see azazel in charlies contact list in episode 5 wierdly
Nah the fact that Charlie dumped all that. Money basically said "quiet and entertain my idea for tonight ok?" 😂
I doubt she was thinking that, even if Cherry took it that way. Honestly, it was probably more along the lines of, "I can't be there to pay, so here's some money to cover any charges."
in case no one noticed, we finally saw Molly in the background of the "Welcome to Heaven" song, to the left of St. Peter. It's confirmed you guys; Angel Dust's sister Molly IS IN HEAVEN!!!
RIGHT!? If only she could see how her brother is doing. She would be so happy (and trigger happy about certain moth)
Also iirc Alastor's mother is confirmed by Vipsie ti be also in heaven which raises......a lot of questions. Like, what part of the family screw up enough to have Alastor be...Alastor
Am I the only person who is shocked with Molly?!?!
Nope I was amazed we finally get to see her
12 years and she's finally here
i saw her
That reprise/remix of Hell is Forever was SO damn good! I legit shot up out of my chair when that happened. Having them turn Adams song right back on him was soooooo satisfying!
After all that happened in the angel court if anyone tries any crap to hurt her friends I think Charlie will break her limits and unleash her full powers
*“If Hell is forever then Heaven must be a lie, if angels can do whatever and remain in the sky, the rules are shades of gray when you don’t do as you say when you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again”*
Truer words have never been sung. If angels can fall then why can’t demons rise? I would never want to go to any afterlife where they are so elitist and bigoted that even if a demon lived up to their standards they still couldn’t be allowed in.
Depends of the sins the demons have done. If he was just a robber and go to purgatory to rise to heaven I think no problem, but if it's one of the worst sinner (AKA child r*pist/groomer/predator, mass murderer, terrorist...) he can just go to the deepest of hell forever
15:16 Charlie and Emily are so alike, imagine if they were sisters... after all Lilith had a first husband (Adam), why couldn't Lucifer have been married to Sera?
I'm not getting sisters, but def relative vibez. Maybe they're cousins?
@@StefonTV1 If Sera is an angel, then mayhap God is her father. Making Lucifer her brother. Which by extent would make Charlie and Emily cousins. But that's pure speculation.
I love that so much. I was thinking cousins but I love half sisters too!
@@philippeblais8594 Emily and Sera are both sisters and Lucifer is their brother witch makes Emily charlie's younger aunt
@@philippeblais8594 maybe cousins is better, but I thought of "sisters" because as soon as I saw them singing together, and being practically the opposite, they reminded me of Tinkerbell and her sister in the movie "The Secret of the Wings" lol
Ya know, The funny thing is. Adam are breaking the cardinal sins just as much as the sinners.
If nothing else the man and his subordinates literally commits genocide/murder on yearly bases. Say what you want, “thou shall not kill” leave little for interpretation, when even he said “until we *kill* them again”
If you didn't notice already this isn't meant to be 100% recreation of christian canon. If that were the case we wouldn't have a show because hell would pose 0 threat to heavens.
@@anitaremenarova6662 well, it does show that some canon seem to apply. Like how the angelic hierarchy works, as well as the whole creation story. Adding on how the human world has churches and the like in hellavus boss. It is plausible to say that at least cardinal sin may be a thing.
Also, they made it very clear that murder as a behavior is consider bad, yet Adam and his gang indulge in such behavior which would indicates their act of evil.
The point is, something fishy is going on. Either ascension/descension isn’t possible. Or ascension/ descension is not base upon one’s deed, but some other conditions.
Meh, didn't Serah said he's only here because he's the first human ?
Charlie will always be my favorite bean, but Emily is the second bean now.
Ok hearing Saint Peter, Jesus' rock on which he'd build his church, say fuck is hilarious.
Actually I'd say Husk is more like Angel's sponsor, someone who's gonna hold him accountable.
Also gotta love how Sera is disgusted by Adam saying he'll be targeting the hotel
There was a ton of info in this episode. I'm sure we'll see later, but i wonder what all it is that is intimidating Sera to keep up the extermination. Loved the Huskerdust moments, like having each other's backs and the soft looks when Angel handed Husk Nifty's drink, etc. Lol. Friggin Sir Pentious and Cherri i think would actually make a good couple of they could figure each other out. She seemed upset about something and making like how Angel does. Pentious is sucha lovable goofball and genuine, i bet Cherri could use that in her life. Very proud of Angel, but it worries me what Val might end up doing to him next. It'll be interesting to see where we go from here!
I'm really curious how the earthborn winners will act once the word is spread that their loved ones that went to hell have to fear total annihilation once a year (if they weren't already killed and subsequently erased from existence)
Imagine learning you 'good' leader had the first man go down and kill your parents/kids/family, and they are already gone, you'll never get to ever meet their souls again. I'd probably fall from heaven then, it would be too much.
@@The_dandy_zombie me too...
especially if you don't know their fate (were they able to avoid the extermination or not so far)
Adam: we are coming for the hotel first
Alastor: that’s real funny (casually causing mayhem while on the radio)
When charlie and Em are singing together Sera is likely getting Luci and Lilith flash back. A seraphim and a "lower being" questioning decisions.
The 'EVERYBODY' gag had me dying so much XD
This episode was fantastic
It seems like both sides are saying " we have to get them before they get us" so the paranoia on both sides is whats fueling this
16:41 "Couldn't bare to see you suffer that fate"
Welp... Guess you're going to have to, because that is EXACTLY what's going to happen xD
Each episode gets good and good every week.
The angel's name is emily and she is not sera's daughter, both sera and emily are sisters
I love these cant wait for episode 7 and 8
My thought is Charlie will turn to Vaggie to talk about it and Vaggie will run off (for a triumphant return because Adam made another mistake telling Charlie the hotel would be first) but I worry what Charlie might do and who she might turn to. Like, I am kind of expecting to learn that she and Velvette might have been friends and she's ready for a war.
Yaknow, Alastor just learned you can kill angles and now they're saying that they're gonna pull up to the hotel doorstep. I think another angle is about to die 😭
Just a random theory but-
Sera is older and taller than Emily. I may be overthinking but this could possibly mean that seraphims start short but get taller as time progressess. Lucifer was a seraphim, maybe even one of the first seraphims, but he's short, like *really* short. What if Lucifer is short because he fell at such a young age and stopped growing when he fell
This is probably the most stressful episode for me KJFHGKFSG Pinning the entire fate of Hell on Angel's shoulders without him even knowing had me *so* stressed the whole time ^^' But it's a *really* well-done one. There's so many good plot twists and reveals in this episode.
I do love this series so far, though I must say I do feel like everything was going really fast. And I get that they limiting it down to 8 episode for one season.
Im just saying. I miss the days when a Season contained atleast 25 or more episodes.
Nah, the pacing is fine. I'd much rather have things move at break-neck speed than have many duds like with Helluva boss.
Knowing how companies are now with cutting shows and movies, they had to probably move things quickly. Just in case their stuff gets cut/canceled, at least they got their story out.
This is one of the biggest problems with streaming. It's nice that they don't get screwed over trying to fight for a timeslot on cable tv but some shows really suffer from being so short. Usually by having a forced or rushed conclusion or having episodes feel bloated with exposition and weird pacing.
At least this show is getting a second season. That gives it a little more room to breathe and try to stick the landing.
@@darkwatershadow I know and I hate that so much!!!
I used to remember when One Season was atleast 25 episodes or more!
Now I wish they tell the people doing the story exactly how many episodes they can get guaranteed. So that way they can move around that many episodes.
Its not to bad, though i dont miss the 25 episodes a season”, you have to remember many of those episodes in such long seasons were entirely episodic with zero consequences for future episodes. So in a large story sense they had no meaning overall, just one offs you’d forget about. And there was never any character development. Thats why the simpsons for example bart never changes, homer is always stupid ect. Whereas in serialized story telling like here we get to see angel dust go from just another whore to a better person.
I've watched a lot of people react to Hazbin Hotel. I think this episode cemented you as my favorite
The theory of Vaggie being an ex-exterminator is canon! *screams*
6:20 it is crazy how everyone’s theorys ending uo being true, LITERALLY JUST INE LITTLE X ON HER EYE AND PEOPLE GOT IT
I feel so bad for vaggie, how they literally ripped her wings off her must be painful.
I just wonder how the next episode will be with Charlie knowing that’s she’s a ex angel
Me: okay, I’m done simping for Hazbin Hotel characters. No more!
Emily:
'the questioning stops now' - the battlecry of the deceitful
Love that St.Peter is voiced by Darren Criss, aka musical Harry Freakin' Potter
Bro this episode just blow my mind with that relevation.
cracks within the "heaven" is showing now
Watching this episode went from adorable and funny to incredibly stress inducing from the moment Adam opens video feed of Angel to Heaven’s Court
I had assumed that Vaggie started out as Charlie's bodyguard.
I don't think that Alastor and Lilith are together given that Alastor is Asexual Aromantic. I think she owns his soul.
Aro-Aces can still be in the relationsships we shouldn't categorize that - they may be exes for each other
But owning a soul is almost certain at this point
@@kapiquantum Im aware aroaces can still have relationships (I am aroace) But generally they work very differently
Husk did say something about Alistor being on a leash of his own in episode 5 so it’s definitely more likely that she owns his soul.
One thing that's wild is the fact that if you think about it, isn't Charlie an angel too? Her dad is a fallen angel and mom used to be a human iirc, so she's more angelic than anyone else in Hell. I wonder what position that puts her in as her power grows and she actually fights
You'd think that koalas would be in hell though because of their unpredictable emotions, extremely high stupidity and the fact that they are far more violent than they appear
Honestly, while the show itself and a lot of fans seem to think that this makes Heaven/Hell arbitrary, if anything I think it shows the opposite. Bear in mind, the Angels revealed in this episode that they in fact do not have any control over who is on The List (Saint Peter looking quite flustered looking through the book, like a poorly trained temp who doesn't really know what he's doing), yet souls show up in Heaven without the angels permission or involvement. It isn't that Heaven is exclusionary and deliberately keeping people out - Heaven itself doesn't even know the rules.
This in fact suggests to me that the story of the angels creating creation is also untrue, otherwise why wouldn't they know their own rules? Either they created everything so long ago that they've actually forgotten their own rules; or they're nothing more than stewards blindly running a creation they in fact had no direct hand in creating.
Of course this does suggest the Big Man Upstairs may very well be a thing, though we could be looking at more of a deist "Divine Watch Maker" concept of God, a being who basically created all things, but has since left creation to it's own devices but with foundational rules in place that even the angels don't know/forgot.
Another idea could be for God to be much more of an eldritch entity, something akin to Truth from Full Metal Alchemist, a being that isn't simply Bigger Stronger Angel but is in fact some cosmic concept and sum-total of all existence. In such a scenario, maybe even Heaven and Hell aren't 'final destinations' but instead are another step on souls journeys to true salvation/ascension, with Heaven being a gilded cage meant to test the 'virtue' of those who end up there while Hell is meant as a place to both punish those who sinned but feel guilt (Husk and Angel Dust) and also as a temptation to those more inclined towards that lifestyle (Cherri Bomb and Alastor). In either case, souls are further tempered in their afterlife, and most do not succeed to either escape the glamerous gilded cage of Heaven or the horrible torments of Hell. This could even explain why someone like Adam is in Heaven despite it making no sense; for Adam Heaven may not even be all that Heavenly since we see him chafe quite a bit and it's obvious he seems to feel stifled... yet wouldn't that actually be a sort of ironic punishment for someone like him?
This is all just speculative on my part of course, and it's likely I'm WAYYY off with this, but it's fun to think about on a philosophical level
Really enjoyed your perspectives and insights. It's a fascinating show, and its fascinating seeing how people respond to it.
I'm also finding myself almost obsessed with the show. Each song gets better every time I hear it, but they make so many good songs. I almost can't keep up. Then the story, and the character growth... I LOVE that Angel Dust, unknowingly, was the one that inspired that reaction in Heaven. I don't know how to feel bonding with so many amazing characters so rapidly! Amazing experience.
16:38 Lucifer fell because you pushed him, not because he asked questions
I hope they deliver on this thing going on with heaven. I was pretty disappointed when I found out they were just doing a cliche "oh heaven is actually corrupt" thing. But heaven themselves not actually knowing what gets them in there, that mystery can be a neat spin on it if they deliver.
For me, this episode just makes me long for more Angel Dust focused stories. Seeing him stand up to Val was very satisfying (even if I wish there were a few more episodes with him dealing with his trauma, maybe talking it over with Husk). In the same vein, when Lute refers to him as a "crack w$#%re who f$#$ed up already," I felt this sick pit of sadness and anger in my stomach. For me, Angel is the heart of the show. I really do hope that they go more into his character in the next season.
They definitely time skipped a little bit of his character development already; I hope they don't rush it any further. Also, I love Angel and he is my favorite, but we need to explore more about the other characters just as much; he is only just one of the main characters after all. The best thing in the show for me are their interactions together.
@@Okk681 Totally! I think people have speculated that they were in a position similar to the creators of Legend of Korra, where they did not know if there was going to be a second season, and were like “get everything done in the first season!” Again, hopefully the second season has some more character development and kinda slims things down. Lotta plots this season!😅
I agree with the thing about drinking. You can hang out with people who are drinking and not participate, I never understood why it's less fun for other people to not drink.
Just a little side comment.
I loved how Angel seems to be more comfortable now especially since he and Husk got closer. He doesnt talk very feminine anymore.
Also his interactions with husk in the backroung in the club is very cute especially when he gave husk another drink, they way they looked at eachother throughout the last 2 episodes makes my heart full.
Also it was cute how Angel and Husk looked like parents to niffty😭
Play with the kitty XD
Episode 8
Emily: “On your left.”
🤣 *portal opens*
I love Emily soso much, it honestly feels like her and Charlie could be long lost sisters, I really hope that we get to see her again, maybe defending hell againt heaven's extermination
This explains a lot.
Was vaggie ever planning on telling Charlie she used to be a angel exterminator?
At some point I am sure. With what they were dealing with at the moment I can see why she didn't that and the massive amount of guilt she feels.
The Series is so fucking gooooooooood! And Sir Pentious is something....poor guy.
I LV ANGEL, HUSK, CHARLIE AND NIFTY THEIR MY FAV OMGGGG 😭😭😭😭
I wonder if in the next episodes Lucifer will show up to fight against the exorcist because he clearly cares about Charlie.
But then again it may not matter how strong he is because he made an agreement to let the extermination happen with exception to hellborn kind. So maybe he can't interfere which goes against his contract with them. Unless he can simply undo it on a whim.
If he plays in a role in upcoming episodes it'll be interesting to see what he does.
15:15 they look like lisa simson when she is doing her protest stances
UNDER AN HOUR! LETS GO.
been deadass excited to see ur reaction to this video: D
I like Niffty's evil laugh, cuz I think is very cute. Every time she laughs, I always laugh with her. 🤣
10:24 im inlove with charlie's growling❤
Go back and watch episode 3. The reveal about Vaggie in episode 6 makes her dialogue with Charlie in ep. 3 and her lyrics in the Whatever it Takes song hit so much harder.
"You didn't know" is MY FAVOURITE song
4:33 that looks like angel twin sisters, I don't remember if it was from a fan art or an original art
Yeah, Molly! I thought the same thing. She even has extra legs like a spider!
I love love love the message of everyone being two sides of the same coin and how people can change and be better
I am dejected that there is only two episodes left ! It s way too short of a season ! There is so much more of this univers to see !
A have a theory about episodes 1 and what happened when nifty was on camera, I think because Alastor doesn’t like to be on camera the people he values as souls and made deals with can’t speak or seem real on camera that’s why nifty was soulless in the recording cause Alastors soul dealing on people I hope you like and see this🎉
Did anybody else get ptsd flashbacks to Wicked and Across the Spider-Verse?
This episode zoomed by. I won't lie I kind of wish we got diaolog for the court scene instead of the singing part.