What Happened When Prisoners Started Vaping
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2018
- Jamie Mosley is a successful entrepreneur, who started a company and made a lot of money, selling a product you might not have realized there was a market for: E-cigarettes that are safe for jails.
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Love how they try so hard to make him look bad but he’s still the most respectable jailer I have ever seen
how dare he give inmates the freedom to buy nicotine products!!!
true but we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors
Carno Con the whole point in being incarcerated is to have all luxuries taken away as a PUNISHMENT funnily enough. But tbh if I went to jail I would hope it was this guys jail
Murderbird 17 was thinking the same. I don’t know any jailers lol, but they did try to make him look bad for sure..
Like the journalist had a bias perspective based on his questions.
well yeah it's vice. it's what they do.
As somebody that’s been in jail, I can totally understand when he says he just wanted to make his and his colleagues day easier.
i've never been but i can only imagine it lessens the tension a lot
criminals, pff
Cost $2, sold for $15 with no competition to people with nearly no rights. Require the inmates go CLEAN and let the jail deal with the withdrawal.
@@LeetHaxington he put the profits back into the prison on things most prisons can’t afford
@@LeetHaxington capitalism the smart and hard working win 🤷♂️ the uneducated and lazy lose sounds fair to me
As someone who quit nicotine, it is so incredibly difficult. I can’t imagine going through that while also getting used to jail… nightmarish.
Yes and then you have the fact that people get incredibly anxious and immensely irritable without tobacco which in turn causes catastrophic hostile results. Not only for the population of the prisons but also the officers within the prison. It's a no brainer. And there is no solid evidence that E cigarettes are harmful, tobacco on the other hand is a very different story. It's pretty obvious how helpful this is.
@@rickdb8480 They should get better TVs with gaming systems and nice gamer chairs also.
@@rickdb8480 I’m one of those people. I use cannabis and psilocybin to help with my depression and EID. I picked up a tiny nicotine habit just happening to work in a smoke shop. They say nicotine makes depression worse but it works when I’m out of shrooms or weed or else I can become a very angry negative person. Ive tried everything to control my anger sports, meditation, art, partial hospitalization therapy for 33 hrs/week, screaming in fields, etc it only works for about a day. My most common EID symptoms are long term appetite loss and insomnia which aren’t things that help one’s mood or decision making skills at all so I absolutely need my smoke breaks
@Lo L. hope life gets better man, for both of us.
It’s so easy to quit going to jail. You just sleep for a few days and you’re good before you know it. You don’t want any vices while you’re locked up. Anything you can give up the better off you are because it just causes problems.
I applaud this man. He’s not only making the time easier for the inmates, but also for the CO’s. I’m almost positive they have little to no problems there.
That and a state law that profits have to go back into the jail to help inmates.
@@commodoresixfour7478 This is the way!
Dude is not only a smart man, but a man who uses empathy. Good guy
He seem like a really wholesome guy! I am still pretty sure that he also makes a big profit from it, which i think is good. Smart people should absolutely be rewarded for making the world better. Vice does not seem to agree with this.
True that, it seems like these braindead in the comment section saying "yeah but he makes money off of it" dont know how the real world works. What? you want to give it away for free? of course he wanted to make money, he needs to feed his family after all.
@@razaninaufal broke pocket folks who aren't happy with their lives are saying that in the comments. Unhappy nags
SYMPATHY!
NOT EMPATHY! IT'S NOT THE SAME THING!! I'M SO TIRED OF IGNORANT PEOPLE USING THIS WORD INCORRECTLY!
@@joelspringman7748 Could be empathy as well. He's emapthic towards his gaurds having to deal with nicotine withdrawn pyschos all day, becuase he probably has in the past. Whos gives an F about those convicts. Over half of them probably suffer from ant-social personality disorder and would take out a prison guard as soon as an opportunity presented its self.
As a smoker and Ex Heroin Addict when I was in jail this would have helped in so many ways. Without them cigarettes and tobacco are smuggled in anyway so this helps the inmates mentality and keeps them sane
Hope you are doing well now brother
In Canada back in the day when you got to jail they would give you a pouch of tabbaco and two packs of zig zags as soon as you got there.
Now they just cuff you 30 bucks for canteen and hygiene products. Lol people used to fight over the ciggarrette butts in the ash tray I agree with you BUT people would be getting punched out for spending there cash on other things like dope and cuffing e cigs they use Nicorette as currency nowadays too and those lozenges (but you’ve been there I’m sure you know that) itll never change totally different world people getting shanks buried in there skulls over bags of chips and pop
Hope your doing well.
I was in the same boat, locked up and detoxing. I would've killed for one of these.
In German jail you can Buy tobacco in a jail Shop...
U can right away see the inmates were a lot more calm about everything cause they didn’t have to go through withdrawal symptoms n the inmates accully saw that the guards cared n the warden cared so the inmates showed as much respect back as the guards did amazing to see
I have to say he sounds like such a very respectful man who really just cares about the temperament of his prisoners and how that affects them in their recovery and rehabilitation. The first thing they tell you when you go to rehab is to not quit smoking cigarettes at the same time because mentally and physically we have a lot of growing to do and it doesn't happen overnight. But when cigarettes are cut from us just like that, due to our own actions, we do get angry and we do act out subconsciously and that could lead to more charges.
I understand the whole accountability is on the prisoner who acts out but I believe this man's heart was in the right place by doing what he did. We can find fault in almost anything and if that man becomes wealthy because he created something good for the men that he takes care of, then so be it.
that's a really good point
Seemed his heart was in the right place this interviewer made it awkward.
You nailed it, the guy really does seem like he just wanted to make jail life a little easier/safer/better for his colleagues and the prisoners
JDK he’s from Vice what can you expect?
Wesley P what’s more harmful. Vapor pens that contain Nicotine that helps take the edge off of prison life which is very stressful or a bunch of inmates fresh off the streets where a lot of them smoked going through withdrawals and or being stressed out/angry thus causing more fights/violence?
Morally I think it’s wrong to deny someone the freedom to choose something that helps them cope with incarceration.
Cause VICE is full of prick Leftists now... Everything's with a bigoted ignorant anti-Capitalist, anti-America, anti-Right etc. Agenda.
The interviewer just didn't ask the questions right. He should've said 'do you think the prisons are overcharging the prisoners to boost revenue?'
He’s literally putting the money back into the jail. If he was evil and greedy he could quit
He only mentioned one purchase that cost 75k out 3.5million
Only the profit made from his jail has to go back into his jail. Profit he makes off of other jails is profit.
I see now thank you
@@franciscomoreno7627 The 75K was 100% of the profit he made at his jail, and additionally, for him to only make 3.5 million, he obviously doesn't have a good margin either. The prisons themselves seemed to profit several times more than he does.
It said that the state law mandates it, so he is legally obliged to do it. No matter how you phrase it, this guy is getting people hooked on nicotine and keeping them as docile little sheep so they don't get into his way during the day instead of actually helping them. Granted I know to little of this guy to pass judgement on him, but this isn't right.
Honestly, I have watched over 10,000 hours of video clips and I have never seen anyone do anything for those people in prison.. Kudos to this man and just for the record I have never been in prison
Honestly this guy is no angel..he’s providing a useful service it’s just basic capitalism if he really was 100% trying to help the price for these e cigs would be a lot less not 5x the cost of production. For the record I have been locked up and 90% of these COs and LTs treat you like crap and wouldn’t step in to save you from dying if they weren’t worried about losing their job..I had one night a guy had a seizure and fell off the top bunk and as he was leaking everywhere the COs were more concerned with accusing someone of punching him then rushing him to get medical attention
@@TheAoalec14 how you know ?? Wos you in his jail ?? Not all people in sistem are morons
@@TheAoalec14 Everyone deserves respect, but respect must be earned. If I am convicted of a crime and get locked up than the cost of my E-Cig shouldn’t be my primary priority. He’s no angel because basically NO ONE is an “angel”, nobody is a saint and it’s unfair to task one person with that level of moral upstanding.
You also have to remember the price will be higher for this custom e cig because they are low production compared to regular e cigs. If he was ordering 10 million e cigs a month they would probably be 75 cents a piece.
@@TheAoalec14 honestly if you knew anything about economics if he sold this product at 1 to 1 there would be no exspansion
I'm a nicotine addict and I so I understand the smallest sliver of what these inmates go through. Very much in favor of this program, mostly because of my experience.
Patches worked well for me to quite twice in my life.
@Leggo MuhEggo it’s just not the same bro. I tried 5 nicotine gum but I was still thinking about my vape.
@@jhoughjr1oral fixation is also a big part of drug addiction
@@dasteelers_YT true, but u gotta have will power to stop for a few days
@@mrenigmaofficial0314 I promise you it harder than you think
Inmate: WHO TF TOOK MY MANGO POD!!!!!!!!
*SHANK SHANK*
@XML studios its a joke Einstein
XML studios too late
El Loko DONT LOOK AT ME I HAVE TOOTI FRUITY MANNNGG
XML studios stop ruining a good joke
The fact that he’s still working as a prison guard gives credence to his story.
Who is?
@@ingmarvanolffen the guy who invented the prison e-cig.
That is the one job I could never do. God bless him .
@@billymack333 he’s the warden not a CO
@@TstanDa-Man I realise that but he’s also the inventor of the prison e-cig, which considering the millions incarcerated in the US system means it’s a very profitable product. Therefore he’s probably making good money and doesn’t need to work in the prison, or anywhere.
i like how they try to paint him as a bad guy, the dude is probably one of the most respectable. imagine how much blood, sweat, and tears went into creating a vape that they cant turn into a weapon. respect to him for that.
Yeah, asking about his motives is bad!! We shouldn’t know at all!
I feel like this is something a lot of people misunderstand about journalism. Asking very blunt, almost rude questions like this is a good way to really highlight the trustworthiness (or lack thereof) of the interviewee. The more the interviewee tries to talk around the question or sounds defensive, the less likely they are to be genuine and vice versa.
It's not a matter of "treating him as the bad guy", it's asking important questions that anybody should be thinking about in a situation like this and giving the man a chance to directly defend himself...or hang himself with the rope you gave him. Either way you're a bit closer to the truth.
@@Rynjinivar true, but you're asking someone to tone down their biases before watching a piece of journalism in order to see that interesting dichotomy in the first place. very hard when people are preemptively expecting to need to defend their mental set, lol
I think this is a pretty good solution for the inmates and guards who manage them. Dropping an addiction cold turkey is really difficult and can have a lot of unpleasant side effects, and the money mostly just goes back into making the jail a better place for all the inmates, whether they use the cigarettes or not. The jailer seems like he cares about them as people and isn’t just using them to make money
That foo hit a double 😂
i peeped that too... he tryna get a buzz off the muf 😂
“Double shmack” is what me and my coworker have been calling it
@@noahjon-darius1509 lmaoo me nd my coworker used to call it that too. We have all sorta of terms. "Hit a blinker" "let's go shmack them pens" 😭😭
And it was a blinker😹
@@isabellegonzales8535 can i hit the schmack for the one time
He literally makes no money from the ecigs and is mandated to give nearly 20% back to the prison but he gives 100% back, this man has also been a jailer for 20+ years and they are already on him trying to say he’s taking advantage of the inmates but he’s a good guy with a good idea, living happy, working in his role in society
@Jerry Rose if he wanted to make a profit in the first place why is he still a jailer?
Jerry Rose where did u got ur info from ? It’s easy to pull shit out of ur ass.
bs he makes money.. trust me he gets a cut
That's only at his prison idiot. That profit he is making off those other prisons buying the e-cigs off his company is straight money into the company and then into his pocket.
@@billcai7138 because prison and jail makes MONEY
While they attempted to paint him as a villain, I think he’s genuinely trying to solve an issue.
No they didn't at all.
There's a conflict of interest and they didn't even touch on health concerns.
If anything it's a softball article.
There's no issue. He's feeding people's addictions to make money. Might as well give them weed or free massages. Hell I'm sure a prostitute would calm them down better than an electronic cigarette.
They definitely didn’t try to paint him as the villain
i did not see the person doing the interview trying to paint him as a bad person or a villain as you put it at all he ASKED a very direct question period simple as that he asked a direct question to which he received a DIRECT answer for .
@@Commander_ZiN What about the health concerns attached to withdrawal side effects and the increased rates of violence and suicide? if anything its an objectivist article without a spin
you can tell from how he said that last line this is one good guy.
I see both sides. Honestly, if it’s a harm reduction strategy that works, let it work. Sometimes a bit of humanity can save a soul.
Yes it is great that it exists, but if the producers and especially the prisons make 12 dollars of profit per 3 dollar e-cig, they could fucking cell it for 5 just aswell instead of being the typical greed driven american capitalist
@@jahrazzjahrazz8858 they have to make a profit for themselves and jail they had a whole ass flat screen tv
@@jahrazzjahrazz8858 Then don’t buy them if they’re too expensive?
@@andrewp146 The normal point of "just dont buy it then" is that there are other producers and a fucking healthy economy with competition, do prisoners have a free market to choose from? They fucking monopolize the market while also using slave labour, thats fucking peak capitalism. No one cares for the humans, the only thing that matters is making the most amount of cash from exploiting human work and human addiction.
@@syvdyvdyfyveydtxt2250 Having to make a profit is one thing, but a 333% markup is something else entirely.
the moment he said "I live with 500 inmates" instead of "I manage 500 inmates" you know he treats his jail as a rehab as they should be treated. he cares for the people in the facility and hes helping enough people he deserves some profit.
A rapist should not be rehabilitated and enter the real world….there’s a reason why jail exists……
@@simonhasmimi8296 retributive justice doesn't work
Just remember not all criminals are bad people. That's the important part. Plenty of them are, but definitely not all of them. Stupid decision, wrong place wrong time, perhaps you just wanted to get high could get you locked up here and there so.... yeah.
That's exactly what caught my attention! He's not doing this to get rich.. he could charge more than 2/3$ to the prisons if that were the case... he understands they're human beings and they're going thru a lot and to expect someone just to up and change many addictive behaviors/habits all at once is to expect them to be superhuman while subjecting them to living in inhumane conditions; as is the case in countless jails/prisons...with sub-par Healthcare... if any...etc...etc.... the list goes on. Don't get me wrong inmates that are actually guilty do not deserve the Ritz... but the majority of the vcurrent prisons conditions in this country are unacceptable
@@mstreemoon8117 There's really no way to tell. He has a monetary incentive to have people buy them. But maybe that doesn't effect him.
The jails are definitely stacking cash with his invention. Selling them for 5 times the price to addicted locked up people... Boojah🤑!
But hey, where would we live if being in jail was fun.
As a former CO I truly believe this has so many more positive effects than negatives such as the big one, it may not stop it but it will help, stopping contranband from entering the facilities
Decent man and even better community member, actually cares about helping prisoners get better. You don’t know the awful feeling of withdrawing in jail on day 3 with every problem in the world and no one to care, and a cigarette is the only thing that will help. This man truly understands the heart and condition of a man at his bottom. Wish there were more men like him.
Beautiful, I love seeing people in prison actually being treated like humans that messed up and not dogs.
Here in Houston people act like dogs that's why they get treated like dogs
@@doyouevenweldbro4769 Including yourself it seems.
What if some of them are committed murders ? It’ s heart- breaking to see criminals who are being treated like humans, and still gets to live , smoke, talking to journalists . The ones they’ve killed have got nothing .
im gonna assume its just a low security prison for druggies and thieves at most, killers and rapists deserve to be treated like dogs.
What's the problem with dogs guys?????
As someone who's been to prison for 2 years I can see how immensely helpful this would be and you rarely see jailers who actually give a damn about their inmates. He doesn't look at them as criminals, but normal people who have made bad decisions and anything that keeps people from making worse decisions while incarcerated is a god send. Great work and great idea.
I'm genuinely curious how does it help? I dont see it
@@RaduP3 for someone who comes from a drug addicted life or even a smoking habit in their life before jail, they will become super aggitated when being forced to quit cold turkey cause theres no nicotine available. I can see as an ex smoker 10000% how this would help the mood itself in the jail.
@@Jess-mx8wy yeah but that doesnt Take much time to go away. Im a smoker too, other drugs addict same myself. But to have someone smoke in Prison for like 10 years instead of letting him be stressed for like 1 month lets say, it seems The best solution in my opinion is letting them suffdr for 1 month and then they gsined something from it
@@RaduP3 if you honestly cant see how this is helpful towards the mood even tho youre a smoker yourself then idk what else to say man. These people are already in prison for most likely.. not being able to control their emotions and doing something they shouldnt have. Adding more stress on top of that by forcing prisoners to quit smoking is not gunna help anything.
@@Jess-mx8wy I've never been to prison but I did both Navy and Army boot camps.. guys go cold turkey and get real depressed and anxious. I can definitely see the medicinal use of this.
dude seemed pretty down to earth and chill... didn't detect ulterior motives or evil from the Mr Jailer at all. the inmates seem happy, the medical records were the first priority... looks like a lot of good is happening here
He seems like a wonderful and down to earth person. I wish I had him as a guard when I spent time away
Every body gangsta until the prisoners start vaping
Yanny county jail
The thing is would you buy cigs that are contraband and risk going to the hole and lose all your privileges in prison or buy a vape and not risk shit and still get that nicotine that keeps you going through the day. This is the problem with guys who never been to jail or prison. Nicotine is the saving grace when serving time and well many people kill for cigarettes in prison where you can't get any nicotine legaly. Cigarettes is the second most valueable thing after dried noodles. Drugs are the third. So yeah nothing gay about not wanting to get put in isolation or a penal cell when you already serving time. Isolation and penal cells are the literal embodiment of hell on hearth you get out max an hour sometimes guards cheat you of your rectime and you don't get to go out at all and you are stuck there alone in a grey fucking concrete box that only seems to get smaller with each hour it breaks even the hardest mother fuckers when put in the hole for a long time.
"Aye loc you got anymore of that blueberry bubblegum g" haha
@Vx - chill man its a joke
everybody gangsta until the parsnip starts walkin
They trying to make him look bad for selling cigarettes to his prisoners, but it’s actually really good, keeps them calm and suppresses problems and not to mention that they don’t have to buy them
Plus it's a carrot to keep em in line, they can loose smoking privileges for fights or other common ugliness.
I thought he said 10-15 a pop
@@___meph___4547 except you don't inhale coffee....
@@everybodyclapyourhands4742 I think they meant "not obliged"
@@___meph___4547 yes, but lungs are really sensitive. I think vaping will kill a person in under 200 years but thats not really a concern. I do get cough, and i do vape. Havent smoked cigarettes in years but i occasionally smoke weed. So im all for it dont get me wrong. Its harm reduction
E vapes help out front line workers and nurses such as myself so much. Nicotine addiction is hard and making anyone go cold turkey is terrible so having the options creates a level of safety for the staff but also a way to help support the inmate or patients rehabilitation
I was in SCI- Smithfield (pa state prison) When they took Away tobacco in 2019. And they had already introduced us to e cigarettes it was the crossbar too. I tell you a lot of violence happened and if it wasn't for having vapes , I don't know how it would have went down. but it was devastating losing tobacco and watching the lifers have the deal with it. But hearing This warden talked about coming in withdrawing and needing a cigarette man he's not lying . He's gotta be a millionaire now.
That's downright genius.
Nicotine addiction is basically 2 weeks to 2 months of absolute insanity. Prison riots have happened over cigarettes being taken away.
This helps keep the inmates in line, helps keep their addiction under control and makes it in general, safer for everyone as it's easier for the prisoners to be able to relax.
And it funds programs to help in rehabilitation. That's all fantastic.
I like your analysis
Lmao if i go to long with out a smoke im ready to kill people now imagine what a killer would do
@@dominicsanthuff jesus man. Take up vaping much safer than cigarettes
@@juanreza6308 i do vape nowdays i still refer to as smokein tho
just lock em in solitary until they stop acting up
this jailer is a good guy, actually giving the inmates a luxury while serving their sentence is very respectable
they are overpriced though, $15 is kinda crazy
If it was priced at $15 on the outside people wouldn't buy it. I can only imagine how hard it is to get one on the inside
Sausage404 $10-$15 isn’t bad. That’s in-line for what you’d pay in the northeast since we’re taxed like crazy.
It should be 10 not 15
@@brianforsberg4359 in the south east it's $5 for a pod of eliquid
@@brianforsberg4359 But in a prison though? Where inmates make little to nothing, and not everyone gets money put in their commissary
I'm an ex-smoker, and I have to say this is a great idea. The crushing anxiety from going from 1-2 packs a day to none is suffocating.
Bless this man. He's doing good work
I don’t think he’s exploiting them at all. He has a product that is safe and can help drug addicts with withdrawals. He doesn’t seem like a malicious person at all. I wish him well.
Ric Sims this is not rehabing.
u right lol these dummies
Most people on camera dont seem malicious but yeah I agree in this case, just seemed like a fair thing to do
Lukas Tran yes I’m currently addicted to xans, I felt as if i went to prison and they allowed me to smoke my stress from not having my bars would be lowered
Also, the mrisnors that we saw weren't aggressive, some got there from and addiction. Yes he makes money of it but he puts the earned money back into his jail
It's hard to doubt him when he says his passion is with his jailer career. He could have quit to concentrate solely on his e-cig business especially since it's making $3mil/year.
Excellent point.
Maybe, but then he would have a guaranteed market that he runs.
If he quit he would lose the monopoly in the jail. He won't quit.
*in revenue
He wouldn't have a market outside of the jail. Lol. They are shitty little $3 ecigs he buys from another company and resells them over 500% to the prisoners. It's extortion.
He should have to let other e-cigarette companies offer their products at the jail at least. Then you'd have people saying all jails should have ecigs. Then you'll have people saying why ecigs but you can't have a cigarette. Lmao butterfly effect. I think he had good intentions, but sees the money in it. Prisoners are already exploited out the fucking wazoo, let's not make this worse for them. Make them stop bad habits. Not enable people to make insane amounts of money off of them and their families.
What an excellent idea! Rehab facilities could use these too! Thank you sir for this!
Thank you for another amazing video vice.
If he was shady why would he do the interview. I don’t have a problem with this, he seems transparent
Exactly, That’s what I was thinking
At first i disagreed with the jailer then I realized its a business not a monopoly, a competing company could come in and dethrone him.
agreed. they were digging deep to make him out to be a profiteer, but the profits go back into the facility, which also makes the inmates lives relatively better. also, if he did profit from it is that even bad?
@@thepjup4507 profit is bad in their eyes. everyone should work for the common good and have no private property.
@@michaelelsner274 well VICE is notoriously anti capitalist so makes sense they'd try to paint that in a bad light. Interesting insight you have, thanks for sharing.
Title - “What Happened When Prisoners Started Vaping.”
Story - “Prisoners Started Vaping.”
Ok, next time give us a spoiler alert pal.
Lol it was a heads up 🤣 it's in the title 🤣
its more as there charging 3x the price to them to flip.... jail turned trap house
@@hewasdoa_3474 It's a dam shame is what it is.
@@jeffaller6190 y’all must have never been to jail. The cigs smuggled in someone’s prison pocket ( butt hole ) cost more than that, and give you a risk of more charges, and hepatitis.
2:26 looks like the giy from 'now you see me'🤣🤣
I think this is a damn good idea. The habit is so addictive and just take them away would cause me major anxiety.
I have been in jail unfortunately and this man is a genius
Meth?
I got punched so hard in jail I shit myself.
Every sinner got a future, every angel has got a past brotha.
Two very (probably) true statements. Good insight if I do say so myself, very good indeed, sir! Haha
This ain't jail this is prison homie
this guy is actually an upstanding man, I hope the idea remains empathetic and wholesome
Maybe he putting calming down tree and topaco
Smokers are some of chillest people out there. Its a great conversation starter with strangers. I rarely smoke nowadays though.
This is an older video but it recently came up for me. Really interesting and well made little video. What's even more interesting is that I don't know where I sit with my opinion. Normally once I've watched something I will have some kind of an opinion, whether it is strong or not, I normally have an opinion based on things i can draw parallels to.
Non smokers will never understand.
DJ Narvaez I’m glad I’ve never smoked
DJ Narvaez Had a male soldier during the Gulf War who ran out of cigarettes. I'm a nonsmoker and health nut but I actually bought him cigarettes as he was really stressing out and being a pain. He was a pretty good soldier and I figured it would be best for both of us for him to have his cigarettes. ( PMS)
@@Bigdoglittle oh please you sensitive shit. Give the guy a break. We all gonna end up as ashes or eaten by earth worms anyways.
Smokers don't understand. That non smokers don't want to smell nasty a$$ cig smoke..
Learn to be a victor.
Not a victim.
@@DigitalPraise7 we actually do! We were non smokers before...
yea he is making money from it but he is also putting the money back into the system... so more less the prisoners are paying for the upkeep and new hardware....
Mychelle VanSchaick they already did that bfore this new adition
He isn’t putting the money back into the system. The jail/prison is the one making profit from the cigs so that money gets put back in. He’s still selling the cigs to that prison, albeit at cost.
He's making money by selling to the prison. The prison is making money by selling to the prisoners but puts it back into upkeep/upgrades. The guy found something and is making good money from it, I don't blame him for that. A lot of people would do the same if they had a chance. But to say it's morally right isn't correct either, it's more or less in the gray area.
Mychelle VanSchaick Lol
You mean software
Excellent reporting
Very smart what this guy's done and also compassionate.
This is the most empathetic warden I’ve ever seen, he actually cares about the men he is in charge of!
by feeding into their addiction?
@@tubeguy4066 are you stupid my guy?
@@tubeguy4066 Obviously someone who has never had a nicotine withdrawal in his life
@@TheRandomguy225 lol don't say that like its some common thing everyone should have experienced before
Happy inmates happy life! :) these prisoners be living better than most free people out here
The guy clearly had the well being of his inmates in mind and this guy keeps trying to make him look bad for a story
Mitchell Young he could sell them at cost. Or with all proceeds going back to jails and prisons. But instead it’s a private, for-profit business. That’s where the problem lies since the inmates don’t have a market choice with another company. Say there was a competitor or two, then the rules of the market would apply and costs would come down or the service would improve. Does that make sense?
You clearly projected your own BS because the piece makes him seem reasonable for drugging his inmates and profiting off of it.
@@nitramwin Did you not watch the rest of this video? I guess not because it is clearly stated that the revenue made by the sale of these e cigarettes MUST go back into the prisoners welfare by mandate of Kentucky law
socaliguy81 you clearly don’t know about prison, inmates can still get anything on the inside that they could on the outside (anything) this includes heroine meth anything u could imagine . So take that Into consideration and all of a sudden buying an e-cig legally doesn’t seem to awful
He asked questions that anyone watching this video would have, he raised the obvious point of self interest up. He gave the jailer a platform to address these questions. How is that making him look bad?
He’s doing a good thing. Leave him be.
I really like his procedure how his invention not only saved lives but also the behavior of inmates. It is an opportunity that they can b recovered. Both physically and mentally.
you can try to villainize him all you want, but I promise you he has much easier time with his inmates than others.
A little respect and understanding can make all the difference
@@ryanrosser7916 not when you’re dealing with criminals words aren’t a supports actions are for these people
That, and he works in a prison so he has thick skin.
He gets trolled, Baited & Antagonize by 550 inmates daily, I highly doubt social media phases him.
Also if its legal and they can find a way to make it safe in their prison then why not?
yeah, cause hes feeding their addiction and not helping them. of course they like him
I like how they make sure the e-cig the inmate has was sold to that inmate, to make sure people aren’t being robbed, extorted as happens when unmarked cigarettes are available and become currency.
I served time in VBCC Virginia were they sold these and they cause more fights, extortion, and theft then any other commissary item. Since I got out I now have a smoking habit after buying them in the jail for $15 to relieve stress and sometimes they only a couple hours lasted hours. Crazy how broke inmates would do just about anything to hit a cig. Even selling the dead ones for $5 so that a battery pack could be made to wire it and get the most use out of one.
You are truly an absolute dumbass if you think that is going to prevent people from being robbed or extorted. That doesn't stop an inmate from stealing the ecigs from another inmate. It must means that when an inmates wants to purchase an ecig from commissary, they must present the ecig they bought last time. It doesn't mean that they don't have another 20 ecigs that they got from exorting other inmates. Besides, you seem to be a Ben Shapiro fan judging from your taste in videos. So why are you so willing to take the word of the government as fact all of a sudden? Looks like conservative posturing about the government is just that...
Is it a drug, then why discuss it, volatile situations could ensue if misused, unpredictable behaviour of any users, if it's nerve-wracking don't get involved, if you had a choice, cooperate or perish, does it affect your health, don't deny the fact,sad story of prison life💥🚬💲✅
Out of all the predatory behavior in the world why would you stop in inmates from getting nicotine 🤷
Everything is currency in prison, just as it is in the free world.
I think he’s a good guy who’s trying to help them with addictions
This guy seems like a genuinely good person
"Come on you're a money hungry pig just say it" literally the interviewer the entire time
That one inmate who said he wasn’t buying the ecigs because his father paid for everything and the ecigs were expensive touched my heart.
Damn you must have a really soft heart if that touched it
@@pondlakes well she is a female... and we all know females have soft hearts and can never be wise, like us males 😏
@@Kaotik199O i cant stand people like you
@@Kaotik199O Yes Josh, Correct
@@Kaotik199O She’s clearly got more empathy than you. Wouldn’t call having a lack of empathy wise, called being shallow.
3:08 dude getting blitz'd doing two e sigs at a time lol
3:09 bro hit a double blinker 💀
On insta gram...
Mycospread~~~~~~~
And he still shows up to work after having a 3 million dollar year. To me that shows he's genuine. I'm still not sold on what he's doing but he seems like a decent man
think about it this way, there's a market for a prison vape, if he didn't create one to fill that market someone else undoubtedly would have. At the end of the day, the prisoners themselves would rather have them than illegally sneak cigs in or go without. If anything, he's doing great work for inmates, giving them a way to relax and feel somewhat at home in a place of constant stress, he just unfortunately has to market that product to other jailers.
anyone who is apart of putting people in cages or keeping them there is not a decent man. idc what perspective you have about it.
@@Lilregpack as an anarchist I tend to agree, but the world is made up of shades of grey, try to remember you catch more flies with honey, and that in your face " vinegar" response to things will turn more people away from your ideas than attract. If you can meet someone half way it's easier to walk them the rest of the way.
This man seems to be trying to make things as best as he can for all those involved, he still shows up because he think he can make a difference. In my book, he's a good man just needs to work on his politics.
TLDR I hope whatever is behind all this we call life doesn't judge you as harshly as you do others
@@charlesalberti563 there's nothing behind it, thats why i'm the best person i can possibly be. bc no one is watching. i dont take other people or creatures in general lives away for judgements that i make on them for "crimes" that they commit for a false sense of right and wrong based on nothing but fairytales. i'm not judging him harshly, nor would i treat him differently than anyone else, but he's no better than the murderers and rapists that he keeps in his cage.
@@Lilregpack you going to far cuz I can guarantee them murderers and rapists would’ve never did the same if they were in his shoes
i love the vice guy accusing the warden of using people for profit when thats literally VICE's entire business model 5:16
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"accusing" .... sensitive much ? he raised a legitimate question, that's all
@@anjayl exactly, it's called journalism lol
@@trevorwalden6097 poorly done journalism nonetheless
@@jaredruiz9344 how so?
I feel like we need this at all cost in every and most jails cause he using every resources to make sure that inmates are taken care of physically,psychology and mentally
God bless this man/inventor. He deserves some profit. No one else took the time to do what hes doing
Love how this jail is trying to modernize/make the jail system better,
@Christian Granados I mean you are right. I attended a very rough highschool. Where some people whom I meet will probably be a felon in the future. This one guy. Who was probably one of the toughest guys I know said "he was offered money to break both of my arms, and legs, but because I was so nice, and respectful to him, he would never do it. I also had some people try to beat me up, but got defended by alot of people because I would always say hello to them in the morning, offer them food, and help with studying if we had the same class. So in my case. Being polite has saved my ass more than once
Just have a peak at European prisons 😅
Jail should be a confinement not a punishment. To protect people from potentially dangerous people. Although laws these days are fuckings stupid leading to dumb arrests so dont count all prisoners
@@michaelballard4916 damn someone was willing to pay to get yo ass busted... what you do yo him damn
Makayla Awesome that’s so crazy I saw you on another video talking about tobacco leaves or sum like dat
The truth is a little of both..he wants to keep them calm and happy and who doesn't want to make some $$$$ on the side..Smart man!
3.5m a year
It's a win-win brilliant idea
But all the money generated from the inmates has to go back into the prison, its mostly for the inmates
@@pinkipromise thats the company's earnings from sales, thats not profit. i'm sure the R&D cost a pretty little penny, and im sure he's not getting the best deals on manufacturing yet
Give them low doses of heroin.
I heard about this a while ago. I'm happy he's still going forth with it.
I think this man has done a good thing. I feel like an E-Cig would have helped a lot with day to day frustrating situations that happen inside, that without that vice that release. Your left to act out in other ways like fighting. I vote they try to put these in every facility in the nation.
He is a good man giving those people a choice between nicotine or no nicotine. That's a little more freedom than they had before. Regardless of his intentions, he's allowing those inmates to get apart of their old life back
@STONE COLD 15 bucks isnt that much hell thats the market price
@STONE COLD 3:55 according to this video, he sold it for two dollars per piece to the prison, and the prison itself resold it for fifteen dollars. It is not his place to tell the prison how much his product should be sold for. Prisons always mark up everything from phone calls to ramens
@@aesyamazeli8804 3dollars*
@@aesyamazeli8804 the video straight up says it's his prison, fun fact prisons in America are run by the government, but owned independently
@@vrcompatible8999 he doesn't own the prison, he's just a guard. It's like saying 'im going to my school' you don't actually own your school
inmate thinking about his 25 year sentence and this fool is asking about how his life has changed after vaping haha
Well now that they're hooked on nicotine they will be more cautious about rioting and commiting harsh crimes because they'll have their e cigs taken away and they don't wanna go through withdrawal
@@G33_528_ absolutely im sure most the guys doing a vape probably only injected heroin or snorted coke on sundays before prison. now they are hooked on the HARD stuff. 3mg mango ejuice lmao
@@stinkythepenguin 😂🤦♂️
@@stinkythepenguin nice one 😂😂😂
@@stinkythepenguin L it takes 3 days to go through withdrawals for hardcore drugs it takes 2 weeks-4 months to get over nicotine , speak on what you know goofy
I've been vaping since 2013. I'm glad to see this is now an option. I wish it were at a lower price point though
That is very very very humane for a jailer to think of the inmates like human beings and help them be less violent. He may get rich off this but he deserves every penny for his consideration of others by putting himself in there shoes. I respect that in every aspect!
I actually believe the officers intentions are good. I'm sick of the world making everything sound bad even if it's more good than bad. Nice job, and great idea👍
Most relatable comment.
Even if it’s not completely altruistic, who cares? He made a product that works for that environment and that allows inmates to continue their chosen addiction. I am glad though that Kentucky has laws that require profits made off prisoners to be reinvested into something that will improve their well being.
Drew's Power House yea everybody says “vaping is bad” do u know what else is bad? Caffeine, sugar, soda, fat foods, so why bully vape? Its helping smokers get out of the far worse habbit
@@tjcollincollin7390 How is caffeine bad for you? if anything, there has been many health benefits that come from caffeine. And maybe we shouldn't have sugar soda and fatty foods around, you make a good point.
@@MrKyle700 Caffeine can irritate your stomach (does for me definitely) and has physical withdrawal symptoms (heard of people getting headaches/moody from not drinking their morning coffee?). Overall a more potent drug than people give it credit for.
"how'd you get in here"
Vaping 10 year old: "vaping"
Retro Twix it doesnt he was just trying to be funny lmao
1 He wasn't trying to be funny by commenting Its not funny
Retro Twix it means if someone underage goes to jail for vaping they’ll just vape more
lol omfgg
@@oscarquizapa9280 Who goes to jail for vaping? lmao shake your head
5:27 it's amazing what NOT arcing up at a question can do for your reputation as a non-narcissistic non-ego-driven person that people can get on board with.
2:24 “Recoverey” I’m Weak 😂
I feel like if this guy was in it for the money, he wouldn't still work in the prison system. He really seems genuine and like he's trying to make the inmates' lives just a little bit better.
Spot on. He could have left the jail and launched his company. The jail has to put the revenue back into its own budget so he basically doesn’t earn money from it. Although since they say he sells the e cigs 5x the price he buys them, he could have easily left and sold the product to other jail for a portion of that 80% margin and be rich as hell
@@nytim666 If he left the prison he would have no guarantee that they'd sell them would he?
@@nytim666 You are an idiot. He is not the one who is buying the ecigs, as you stated in your comment. He owns the company that manufactures them.
Only the jail has to put its profits back into the system. It said nothing about the company putting its profits into the system. The video said that the ecigs are purchased from the company at 2-3 dollars and sold at 12-15 dollars to the inmates. All of those profits should go to funding inmate programs, but knowing the corruptness of the American "corrections" system, it's probable that it doesn't actually work that way. Regardless, that has nothing to do with what the company itself makes. They might manufacture these ecigs for 50 cents each and be making huge profits. Those profits are completely his. Therefore, he is earning money from it and you are completely wrong. By the way, even if the jail wasn't putting the profits it makes back into its own budget, it wouldn't be his money because the jail's profits aren't his (unless there is corruption).
No, he wouldn't have been able to leave and sell the ecigs to other jails for higher prices if he had left. What makes you think that was an option? It seems that institutions have been extremely skeptical of his products since only 33 of them have opted in. Every jail and prison works by selling their commissary at extremely high markups. They sell individual ramen noodle packs for $1 or more. Do you really think the prisons are paying much more than what grocery stores pay for them?
I have no problem with inmates having access to nicotine. I do have a problem with inmates being taken advantage of because they have no other options. I also have a problem with idiots like you acting like others are doing things out of the goodness of their hearts when they are actually most concerned with making a profit.
@@JerzyFeliksKlein probably has patents, but you can sign vendor contracts with state and city governments guaranteeing so many years of sales. Plus he already has 33 customers.
Or he just found an easy and consistent revenue stream with little competition selling to people whose long-term health he doesn't care about because their status as criminals. A lot of people in these comments jumping to defend him with very flimsy reasoning beyond "I was a prisoner and drug addict and I need cigarettes when I'm in there so this is good for me"
Don't see a problem with this. It also seems like it could cut down on the frequency people smuggle in tobacco. I bet some of them leave and keep using the ecig instead of going back to cigarettes too.
Yeah because they have no choice fool
@@elizabethgibson3395 You can still buy tobacco in prisons it's banned in.
Yea same
Alot of Truth in this comment
That's the point. Instead of having folks try to smuggle in cigs and tobacco, they can get one or two of these and be set for quite awhile.
Don't find anything wrong with them asking him those questions, he should always have those in the back of his mind with a captive audience like that. I think he means well, but he's also contributing to a system that grossly abuses a very vulnerable population, and getting a skewed perspective on their needs vs the problems the system adds to their incarceration is all too easy. I hope he stays on what appears to be a righteous path.
Excellent journalism!
Honestly this dude really cares the amount of thought and time it took to do this all for some inmates so they could suffer a little less? That's awesome. They might not deserve it but hes trying to help them be better people so bravo.
I try not to think about "deserving" when it comes to restorative justice. You're right - the care he has can help everyone get to his level.
RawrCx he dsnt give a shyt about the inmates its all about making money 🤑
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loostonerool I would too
Anthony Orozco Of course it is about making money but he almost certainly took a gigantic financial risk to do this.
Also he could have pursued a selfish way to make money like most people but he chose a way that helps him & other people.
Being locked up sucks. I think he's a good man & believe his intentions are truly good
This is a highly intelligent idea. As a smoker, I empathize with the inmate who said he came from smoking two packs a day to none. That is hard and puts stress on anyone. Having compliant and people who may not be able to stop smoking to give them an alternative. I commend this warden very much.
4:13 The least ergonomic desk setup I think I've ever seen 😂
It was actually a good story until you made him seem like he’s the next Jeff bezos. Yeah he’s making some money off it, why is that so bad?
The argument is it is better for their health and bank account to quit.Selling an unhealthy product some will always say things like that.
I dont have a problem with it if non smokers are not affected.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants most of the guys that are there are massive smokers and drugs users, put them in a place stressful like a prison and retire aphis drugs at the same time isn't healthy for his mental health. E-cigs will calm the person, they will become more calm, cause lest disturbs and turn the prison a better place to be. of course the man earns money, he listened to his prisoners, he found a way to satisfy his requests and now he deserves to win a prize for his effort.
@@JR-uy2nd Sure but if he REALLY cared about them he wouldnt offer it at all.He could offer scratcher tickets too to the gambling addicts.
If he REALLY cared he wouldnt offer things like that.I dont personally care if he offers them both and alcohol too.If people want to get off drugs they should go to another jail/prison where they dont allow it.
We should have one jail/prison in each state that doesnt allow it.
Addiction is a very hard thing sometimes you can’t simply just “quit” plus these are 99% safer than cigs
@@EternalNico1 It doesnt matter there should be one jail and prison where they dont have it for people who want to quit.
The jails/prisons who dont might as well sell scratchers/lottery and drugs.
If they dont want to quit anyway or wont we might as well profit off it.
the reporter pressing the "aren't you exploiting the prisoners for profit" despite how its a multimillion dollar business and if he wanted to really just be in it for the profits he would've quit his job as a jailer by now.
That is actually the greatest insight in the comments... very, very true. He wouldn't even have to work there anymore. But, yet he does.
That warden at the jail makes 6 figures and being employed there keeps the networking at his finger tips. He leaves the jail system that gives someone else the opportunity to encroach
@@sarahgrace6769 His primary form of networking will be trade shows. If he was to leave the job, he'd make far more money pushing the business much harder.
I suspect his main motivation to carry on working there is because he wants to actually help prisoners get out of the system.
He does come across as a genuine person who just saw a way to solve a problem.
I live in Corbin,KY inside laurel county. Trust me there are a lot of crooked people in every small town like ours. Jamie Mosley could very easily make a SHIT TON more money leaving this county and pushing his company but instead he genuinely cares about his home town. Anyone that thinks he’s exploiting prisoners should meet this man and figure out that he actually cares about helping his prisoners and not making a bad situation worse than it has to be. What we aren’t talking about is how since this has been implemented violence has even went down because it gives the feeling that you aren’t just some piece of trash and you are a person that may have made a small bad decision.
he's a pos exploiting the system and getting rich, nothing new here, sad its allowed.
Where can I find the chemical makeup ( SDS sheet ) on these vapes? Thank you
ma dude blinkered nic😂😂
A Jailer who sells e-cigarettes to prisoners who helps beat their addiction and puts money back into the jail....
*Heroes on both sides*
What?
@@thegreatestmantoeverwlkthe4819 wha.....you what I won't bother go ahead
They should have these in every jail , it would help on people hooping and smuggling tobacco in , just like the Leftist Vice though eh , they do the story , and at the end try to make it sound like he's doing it for profit , Come on there Vice .
@@adamdanko596 well, to be fair they're only making it sound like he's doing it for profit... _because he _*_IS_*_ doing it for profit_
yes, he is *directly* profiting from the misery of the people he is supposed to protect.
they should only adopt this program in other jails if it is cheaper for the inmates than regular smokes.
LMFAO bro chill@@thegreatestmantoeverwlkthe4819
He seems genuine to me.. I saw his heart when he smiled and said “I guess that’ll be for everybody else to decide when they see it” he looked like a little boy 😭
I feel like Mr. Mosley is sincere in what he set out to accomplish. He has not only succeeded but has been able to better the jail as well with the proceeds. Genius!
2:23 They need a specialised sign making program showing them correct proportional spacing relative to the sign
Guys a genius...a smoke can solve a lot while in jail only problem becomes the have and the have nots
Cool gta pic
You gotta get your hustle on if you don't have funds. You can wash clothes, clean cells, and do all kinds of stuff for other inmates.
Fact
Unfortunately like everything in life
Kill them all useless waste of space and money. Good day
The jailer seems like a genuinely good guy.
Derek Savery WTF??? He has tons of people enslaved in dangerous cages against there will and now he’s over charging them for fake chemical cigarets when everyone in there is broke, HOW IS HE A GOOD GUY!!? HES A MONSTER!!!
@@XGaming1 i seriously hope you are just tryna bait/make a joke
Derek Savery go commint a felony so you two can be together
The three above comments are from losers
Take it from someone who knows him personally...he’s anything but a good guy
I love this idea. I can see how this could benefit alot of different issues that happen at jailing areas while helping fund the jail corporation & community. I like how the inventor addressed the issue and came up with a proper solution.
If only other facilities put this much care into theirs. So so simple. It truly would make a world of difference.