Josh Pate On FSU vs Miami Rivalry + The Future (Late Kick Cut)
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- FSU vs Miami was once one of College Football's most heated rivalries wioth national title implications riding on the game every year. On Late Kick Live Ep 510 Josh Pate responded to a viewer prediction about why some people still look back fondly on what the game used to be like and wondered whether Mike Norvell and Mario Cristobal could one day return things to the way they once were. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Florida State, Miami and Florida don’t nearly get the respect we deserve for what we did for the sport in the 80s until now.
For some reason the media focus only on Ohio State vs Michigan ..an Bama vs Auburn..
The 90's and early 2000 too bro.
I'm an 88 baby and when I first start watching college football in 2000 FSU and Miami were the upper echelon of the sport.
Lol when you were born they were lol especially Miami in the 80-90s
I'm an FSU grad. I hate Florida, but I respect Miami. I don't want to lose to either team.
I’m a UM Grad. I too hate Florida, but I have tons of respect for FSU because of Bowden.
Florida sucks noodles
I feel the same. But different team. I hate Gators but respect FSU. But as a Miami fan, I don't want to lose to either one.
FSU fan for 42 years, 20 year booster and member of TBE and I feel completely opposite 😂. I have actually gone back and forth over the years but Miami is securely and now forever in my most hated category.
Their fans are the primary reason for this.
@jamesb0255 I'm feel the exact same way, and for years Florida was the clear cut #1 most hated. But just in the last cpl of years Miami has surpassed them to the point where I will be genuinely rooting for the gators to beat Miami in the swamp in their opener. I never thought that would happen, but here we are
Miami vs FSU was the best because not only was it going to be a top 3 matchup every year but they both had a dominant path leading to the match. ... A true Immovable force vs the irresistible object object.
This game has always mattered in-state. There are no rivalries like rivalries on a peninsula.
Miami v FSU were two teams with nads willing to play each other even if it ruined each others' natty chances. Bowden himself said put on my gravestone, "At least I played Miami."
1987 the Gators went down to the old Orange Bowl with the Heisman front runner for the opener. His Heisman chances were over before Labor Day.
Actually it's Florida State law that UF, Fsu & Miami MUST play each other EVERY YEAR.
@@rvail136 Actually, that law never passed. It was threatened when UF tried to chicken out of playing FSU. UF did successfully cancel the annual game vs Miami after the 87 game when their starting' QB's Heisman campaign ended before Labor Day.
Since 1980, the three schools combined for 11 nattys and another 9 runner ups. 13 (6 nattys 7 runner ups) of those were concentrated during the period 1986-2002.
And that's not to mention some of the personalities involved from Steve Spurrier, Jimmy Johnson, Bobby Bowden, a mascot getting arrested,
@@rvail136 Florida stopped playing Miami every year in the late 80's. Florida claimed that they had to drop Miami as an annual game because the SEC required an extra conference game. Miami Fans thought Florida was tired of getting beaten.
This year is the first time in a while that Miami & Florida will play.
That was one of the worst tweets of all time
Facts
Forever UM fan. And this is the best show out there ! Thanks for all you do ! Go Pate State !
The Miami/FSU rivalry is really like a sibling rivalry. FSU/UF is pure HATRED 😂
The Miami vs FSU rivalry has meant more in this state and national the last 40 years!
Says you.... I respect Florida far more than I respect Miami. At least in my elder years lol
You got it the other way around my guy
@@arronfrazier7873FSU vs UF played in like 11-12 straight top 10 matchups from 1991 or so. In the last game of the season that game was intense especially when UM were disciplined in the mid 90s
Those 2 teams put out more NFL, an All American then any others rivals teams💯💯💯💯
I've waited for this year since they released Florida Miami home and home BB ack in 2019
Facts I’ve had this game marked since we lost that game to UF
If you have to ask, you don't know football!
Yes sir you're right
That's what I was gonna say! 🎉🎉
Right on and
HOOK'EM ALL
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻@@dmanwainright2132
No doubt.that woke shit dnt belong in football fella from Colorado
FACTS
This was desperately needed for the younger generation thank you
I remember wide right!!! Nothing like it.
Which one? 😉
@juandorta-duque6028 Yeah the better team missed a chip shot.
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc and Bowden started slipping into overly conservative play calling during those games. There was real frustration on the FSU side about that, for those who were paying attention to the game.
@@JanTheViking LOL, actually both!! I am old enough to have also attended the Nebraska Miami game in 1984.
Heck, I remember when they used to give you free tickets if you bought a Whopper, fries and soda at BK. Those were the days. Let's hope we get back to that before I die!!
@@juandorta-duque6028Miami giving away free tickets today 😂Good NOLES
It ticks me off when people make ignorant comments like this. Josh you handled this question perfectly. You have to understand, there is no relevant team that doesn't have kids from Florida. There was a time Miami, FSU and Florida were all in the top 10. You are ignorant to the history of the game so don't respect the fact that the greatest college football players of all time and NFL players came from this rivalry. Just because they get commitments to Alabama and UGA now that doesn't make it irrelevant. Florida will ALWAYS be relevant when it comes to the game of football.
Those rivalries help grow college football to what it is now
Right it's very disrespectful to say the FSU vs Miami game means nothing
Preach!
Kids played at the same high school or a team rival and the trash talking carries over from high school to college .
I'm a Cane but when I was growing up the big 3 was feared and powerhouses! I used to love watching Gators and Noles too. Bobby vs Steve... Perfect rivals!
Great show brother!
Good Take Josh! 🐊
Excellent take on this topic.
As a kid growing up in the 80's and 90's, any game involving two of the three main Florida schools (UF, FSU, The U) was a must-watch. Sticking just to FSU-Miami, the epic 1987 game (FSU, down 26-19, scored a late TD and went for 2 instead of playing for the tie: they missed and lost 26-25), Wide Right I, Wide Right II, FSU'S Revenge (the 28-10 breakthrough win), three more FSU losses on missed kicks, the Miami Muff, and a few close games recently, have all been fun.
As a lifelong Nole, I've always loved and died on the results of those two in state rivalry games every year. Minus Miami and UF, FSU would have another half dozen Natty's.
I remember Keith Jackson say "...time to let the big dog hunt.." when he broadcast these two...
From 1983-2013 One of the big three finished the season ranked 1st or 2nd 17 times out of 30. Meaning champion or running up in over half the football seasons during that period and if you look 1983-2003 the number is a staggering 14 of 20 seasons, 70%. Kids today cannot understand the type of dominance those schools had on the sport and because of that how fierce those rivalries were and still are between the programs even if the nation is less interested as a whole. Sure “look at the SEC, 2006 to now” ok but all of the teams in the sec aren’t arch rivals with each other and aren’t made up almost exclusively by kids who may have known each other since they were little boys.
Kenny, I stay in Denver. I can further teach you on why it’s good. As a Miami fan.
GO CANES 🙌🏼
GO NOLES!!!!!
Best hard hits of all time.
I got to see some of it, started watching around 1997
I love how FSU is "close to being back" after going 13-0. That's how high the standard is for the big 3.
I mean as a canes fan yes we always want to be 13-0 to get the championship but you know how the system works and how we hate/respect rivalries plus some of us are ignorant towards rival fans
13-1
@@keyroncampbell no one cares about a meaningless exhibition
@@newyorknole2225 you don't care... If it was a great game you guys would have a lot to talk about,.. when it don't, y'all don't take ownership of a bad team or performance like the 63-3 blowout, ya out here still saying 13-0 🤣🤣
@@keyroncampbell if it was a playoff game I'd own it. UGA beat up on backups because all the starters opted out for the draft. It wasn't a real game. Kirby smart said it himself. Until cfb is fixed, bowl games will continue not to matter
There was a time where either Florida State or Miami were competing for the national championship and every time they were going to play each other that was the deciding factor young people will not understand that
Whoever won that games was more than likely playing for a natty, definitely true
As an FSU fan, there is no team that has caused me more headache than Miami. Sure UF is our arch rival and for good reason but for me it’s always the Miami Hurricanes that I’d be chomping at the bit to see us beat.
The big three was football in 80’s and 90’s
Young people these days just want to get rid of anything that they were not a part of, mainly history in any form and that friends can be a recipe for disaster in many different forms.
I’m 25 and even tho fsu and Miami are irrelevant to me I did catch that era when Florida was DOMINANT. So I could believe what you’re saying about fsu and Miami.
That rivalry May end when FSU leaves ACC. There is not room to play them and UF OOC.
This question coming to you from a resident of one of the most irrelevant states in college football. Who is the best college football team in CO? Air Force? Colorado School of Mines?
Auburn v. Florida, Nebraska v. Oklahoma, Kansas v. Missouri, Colorado v. Nebraska, etc., are all gone. People will get over Florida State v. Miami going away. Yes, rivalries matter, but I don't get Pate's take on this topic. Toss-in FSU leaving for the SEC (if it happens), the conference going to a 9-game schedule, and it'll happen in short order.
Yes Miami place Florida this year. But Florida State has been the only team with balls enough to play the other two teams every... single...year. quite honestly I'll be glad when that is over.
FSU fans like me are convinced that we're back. We've got great coaches and the sky is the limit. FSU fans like me want UM to be back too. Why? They're our rival and we "hate" them right? We want them back because when both teams are at the top the rivalry is incredibly exciting and fun. I'd like UF to be better too for similar reasons, but nothing matches the FSU-UM rivalry.
Imagine a world without every college football game being played simultaneously. Instead, you might only have the chance to catch two or three big games a day if you're fortunate. Consequently, the sole method to witness your son, friend, or team play football was by attending the games. Therefore, most kids in Florida tended to stay in-state or close to a college football team nearby. Charlie Ward hailed from Georgia but lived just 45 minutes north of Tallahassee. Hence, he played where everyone could easily watch him play ball. This is why Miami enjoyed such prominence in the 80s and 90s, as many players opted to stay close to home. The real shocker occurred when someone relocated from Miami to Tallahassee, Gainesville, or Jacksonville to Miami. Television revolutionized college football in the mid-2000s, and now, once again, the Name, Image, Likeness (NIL) rules and the transfer portal have reshaped the landscape.
There was a time their was multiple teams claiming the National Championship. Winning the Florida's Governor Cup was a big deal.
It's still like that. Look at this last season. FSWho went undefeated but squeezed by at the last second against Miami who went 7-5. Js
Squeezed by 😂... One missed tackle or that game would have been a blowout...
And the rivalry still exists! Ha!
Canes are 2-3 years behind FSU in development
Ok buddy
I just want Miami to compete again I think they are moving in the right direction Like FSU. When Miami FSU are competing for National Championships it makes College Football fun again
Thoughts on the TAMU UT game coming back?
Well said Josh! Go NOLES!!
That's is exactly what's wrong with college football fans like that guy you talking about how can you say that you don't need FSU and Miami rivalry that's just like saying we don't need Michigan vs Ohio st. That's what college football is it's about rivalry games straight up tradition don't ever mess with that it's rivalry'$ every where in college football I can't believe that guy said that
Really hope this rivalry goes to the big ten
Before Gen Z fsu vs Miami was a Labor Day game every year. First game of the season. They were the best games. And as a fsu fan I wish they would bring it back.
This is arguably one of the best rivalries in college football. Silly question but great answer.
Josh, you need to update your little graphic there. FSU holds a 47-0 victory over UM (1997).
As a sixty-year-old viewer I remember FSU-UM, FSU-FL, TX-A&M, Neb-OK, OSU-MU, etc. of course I hated all of them… but they were entertaining.
I also remember PSU-ND and USC-ND.
Tell the kids to google national champions from 1983 to 2013 and count how many national champions were won in the state of Florida.
Noles vs Canes was a must watch every year back in the day
Its gonna be this year...watch
Lets go CANES!!! FSU VS MIA IS THE BEST GAME OF THE YR EVERY YR
Josh looks at Mario like he is in love with him!!! He tries to find every chance he can to carry Mario's water for him, and he hasn't done anything at Miami yet!!!!
florida georgia and fsu miami are some of the best rivalry games not played on rivalry weekend (obviously ou texas as well)
What does someone from Denver know about college football?
they don't wanna hear this..
Enough said.
It wasn't for miami and uf bobby probably has 3 or 4 more rings
In the hey day it was the best rivalry. It was absolutely viscous
You forget Ohio state and Michigan just got back good last ten years !!!
Miami is a 9-3 program with Cristobal. They will have the NFL talent but will wet the bed a couple times a year to dash your hopes.
Who is Kenny to tell us what we need 🤨
I love to hate Miami and a giant piece would be missing every year if that game were to die. Long live the rivalry.
Harsh reality is NIL and Transfer portal will destroy rivalries.. rivalries will be for fans only!
Its all good these aren't real college football fans. They are bandwagon fans who just like the SEC teams and that's all they know. GO CANES!
FSU hates that south Florida team enough to leave them behind.
As a Nole, we need to keep that hated rivalry alive....period!...Go Noles!!...also piss on Miami, Florida & the committee
Let's be real the state of Florida had a monopoly on college football for decades and the NCAA had to do something about it. I believe our programs were systematically weakened. Bama, OSU, ect wouldnt be shit without our players. NIL is changing things and once that fence starts to get built again the rest of these programs are gonna shrink back into the crowd.
Bingo! As a Miami fan who lives here in West Central Florida, this state control CFB! The SEC bag men ran a muke 2003 to 2020 here in Florida and the NCAA turned a blind eye. NIL has even the playing field! Especially for a small private school like Miami! Miami may not have a large student population and alumni base like FSU, UF, UCF, USF, FIU or even FAU! However, Miami is located in one of the money and power base areas in the nation and the world which is South Florida/Miami. Miami has rich millionaire and billionaire alums and booster in South Florida, Atlanta, DC, Chicago, LA, NYC and etc. These people have businesses and corporations. They millionaire and billionaire friends have businesses and corporations. NIL is nothing but a tax right for them on a yearly basis to Miami. USC is about to explode as well with their NIL! We all know the alumni and boosters, they have in Hollywood with Directors, actors, producers and etc in So Cal, nationally and internationally.
Dating a FSU alum, FSU vs Florida means more to them than Miami. She’s 25.
Then she has no idea.
@@eizaguirre2184I'm an FSU alum and the Florida game is usually more important. Pretty much has been since the 90s if not always. There's a degree of mutual respect between FSU and Miami. FSU and Florida hat each other. It's not unlike Michigan-Notre Dame and Michigan-Ohio State. I know ND and Michigan don't play every year but that's the best comparison I can make. We don't care for either but we loathe UF.
She's not wrong. A lot depends on age but I'd expect younger Noles to hate UF more than Miami.
@@rimmhardigan1973 fair enough. I just wish this rivalry goes back to what it used to be.
@rimmhardigan1973
Because ND chickened out of it and paid 40 mil to do it.
Go noles
What most people dont understand is that state law requires thst UF, FSU and UM must play each other every year.
Then why don’t Miami and UF play every year? Why is FSU the only one willing to schedule both at all times?
No. Miami is a private school and isn’t part of that.
@@RedMage409 kinda what I figured. Don’t know why someone would go spouting that shit off knowing it doesn’t apply to all 3 schools
Let’s go canes
2:53 But that's just it. OSU vs Michigan rivalry has held up in ways that FSU vs Miami hasn't. The Game has always been the Game. FSU vs Miami is irrelevant. It truly doesn't matter if they're good again.
You can say that! But since 1980, Miami vs FSU has meant more to CFB than OSU vs Michigan! Miami has played in a bowl game since 1980 with a chance at a national title 13 times and FSU 8 times. Since 1983, Miami has won 5 national titles and FSU 3! The winner of that game has affected things national more times than OSU vs Michigan!
Good thing your opinion is not reality. The FSU vs Miami rivalry is far from irrelevant
Explain mizzu vs Oklahoma idk why they hate eachcother
Any state you boarder is a natural rival.
@@fsupenguin yuh but like this off season there has been so much hate between the 2
@@33alltheway14 I would assume it's cause Mizzu is actually good now. Most years a team like OU wouldn't take them seriously, but right now Mizzu is factor.
@@fsupenguin u think they beat ou this yesr
@@33alltheway14 maybe, they do play at Missouri I believe this year
GO NOLES!!! 🍢🍢🍢
FSU/UM game is just another rivalry game in jeopardy do to Consolidation - It's suck to see these great rivalry games get thrown to the waste-side by media partner's
Enjoy the rivalry while you can !
Casual football fans will only know nothing of the #1 vs #2 constantly.
The Hate says it all..
This is why the 2001 Miami hurricanes are known to have the best team/roster in college football history.
NFL players all agree.
Fsu miami will likely end post Big 10 exodus if canes to big 12
He was from colorado, you talkin bout him made his year bro😂 guess fsu v miami cant be colorado v colorado state
All I heard in this video is used to see or used to this, we’re talking about know how pathetic is it that like you said there so many talented your players and you can’t recruit them you can’t field a decent team. They sick now no one cares about them
Bama & Auburn don't mean nothing
Knor tha texas &Oklahoma
Florida owns football we’ve kicked Cali, and Texas’s ass period!
I can still feel the emotion of those match ups and I wasn't a fan of any of those teams. True must watch games.
Old noles hate Miami more than Florida. Young noles hate Florida more than Miami. TRUE noles hate both in equal measure
His daddy needs to sit him down and teach him somethings. Asking such a silly question.
Kenny didnt get the ass chewing he deserved for this question. dissapointed josh
Miami v FSU is one of the best ever rivalries in college football! Canes will be back!!
You have to be at least 13 to post on X
From da 850...The U BABY....LETS GO CANES...
Kenny is just another NPC talking shit about something they don't know about. How about ANY collegiate football team in Colorado get the historical resume as both of those programs combined or even half of one.... what a bum's take. DEFINITELY NOT A FLRORIDA NATIVE FOR SURE. Put a sock in it Kenny
Whoever post that should not talk football ever know your history no matter the age and facts these leaves to make other states great smh
Miami is about to own FSU for a long time
Delusional 😂
Always the offseason champs lol
Trying owning a stadium first.
@@FSUOwnsTheStatewas not the hurricanes fault they lost the orange bowl
Find it funny that teams w "that Swagbucks and run their mouths like people care .the guy from Colorado and all these Miami fans,cane fans I hate it for ya,but reaĺly,grow up,yall should start a badminton team yall would absolutely own that shit..the nil incentives would be astronomical,wut u think miami,that's right yall don't think, u j pop off at the lipand turn the damn ball over.hreen and orange never looked so yellow
Simply ignorant tweet. 😂
@KennyFiveReal is about to have HELLFIRE RAIN DOWN ON HIM! GOOD! That was an UTTERLY DISRESPECTFUL THING TO SAY!!!!