Josh Pate's SEC Quarterback Ratings Entering 2024 (Late Kick Cut)

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  • SEC QB rooms are filled with household names this season but some new talent could serve to mix up the hierarchy. On Late Kick Live Ep 513 Josh Pate shared his SEC quarterback room ratings for 2024. Do Carson Beck at UGA and Quinn Ewers at Texas lead the pack? Where does Jalen Milroe fit at Alabama? We look at newcomers like LaNorris Sellers at South Carolina, Jackson Arnold at Oklahoma, and Nico Iamaleava at Tennessee. What about veterans like Graham Mertz at Florida? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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  • @JoshPateCFB
    @JoshPateCFB  8 місяців тому +11

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

    • @zacharyrogers1071
      @zacharyrogers1071 8 місяців тому +1

      How many games would you say Kiffin or Sarkisian wins will that Alabama roster?

  • @jackoneill1336
    @jackoneill1336 8 місяців тому +16

    The second Josh said a whole lotta hope I knew he was talking about my gamecocks 🤣

  • @chicken_sandwich3377
    @chicken_sandwich3377 8 місяців тому +40

    9:30 the 6 vandy fans who watch football would be really upset

  • @johnnyblue1101
    @johnnyblue1101 8 місяців тому +5

    Looks like SEC QB potential in about 2 years is loaded with elite talent. Barring injuries, Underwood at LSU will be must see talent on display

  • @jjarrell2576
    @jjarrell2576 8 місяців тому +47

    TL; DR for the meemaws: Texas 9.5 // UGA 9.25 // LSU 9 // Bama + Florida + Tenn 8.5 // Ole Miss 8.25 // Okla 7.5 // Mizzou 7.25 // A&M 7 // USC West + Kentucky + Ark 6.5 // Auburn 5.5 // MSU 5 // Vandy 4.5 -- any surprises?

    • @dmanwainright2132
      @dmanwainright2132 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks

    • @tschandler2
      @tschandler2 8 місяців тому +1

      LSU over Bama. I mean Milroe held his own against the Heisman winner on the same field last year. And that guy is gone.

    • @GlorfindelofGondolin
      @GlorfindelofGondolin 8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for your service. 😜👌🏻

    • @michaelroberts6534
      @michaelroberts6534 8 місяців тому +6

      I think Ole Miss quarterback room is better than all three teams with an 8.5… it’s ridiculous how he just gave higher ratings to quarterbacks that haven’t even played many games but we will see.

    • @tschandler2
      @tschandler2 8 місяців тому +4

      @@michaelroberts6534 Ole Miss is still Ole Miss. And Lane is still Lane. No Saban to throw him off but he still does stupid shit that keeps him from getting over the hump.

  • @braydenritter2273
    @braydenritter2273 8 місяців тому +8

    Oklahoma for sure has their QB of the future. Michael Hawkins Jr is THAT GUY. I think OU will have a Baker to Kyler passing of the torch between Arnold and Hawkins…

  • @arubial1229
    @arubial1229 9 місяців тому +118

    At some point people have to stop judging Milroe on potential, but on actual results. I just don't get the hype with him. Simpson is a better overall QB IMO.

    • @pjpugh2526
      @pjpugh2526 8 місяців тому +102

      SEC champion
      Undefeated in the SEC despite a porous o line and being a first year starter
      5th in heisman voting
      Bad snap away from a Natty
      But please keep going with your narrative...

    • @ryandee6606
      @ryandee6606 8 місяців тому +7

      @@pjpugh2526he was 6 in heisman voting

    • @Will-pp9kc
      @Will-pp9kc 8 місяців тому +36

      At some point a causal fan like you should stop talking...but it is not today.

    • @bamarocks777
      @bamarocks777 8 місяців тому +28

      Simpson struggled against USF. Milroe is the best QB on that team and he’s only gonna get better under Deboar

    • @ImChazo
      @ImChazo 8 місяців тому +13

      He’s only played for 1 season. Jayden Daniels had a very average season in 2022 then won the heisman in 2023. If at the end of this season Milroe is still underperforming, then you can talk, and I’ll actually agree with you. But until then, I think you’re jumping the gun way too early.

  • @davidpalmer3790
    @davidpalmer3790 8 місяців тому +54

    Why are you so confident in Arch Manning? There’s not much data to prove he’s any better than Walker Howard at Ole Miss

    • @jemazondo9331
      @jemazondo9331 8 місяців тому +9

      Well since neither have really played in college, we can only go based off where they were ranked coming out of high school.

    • @stweasel
      @stweasel 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@jemazondo9331 Walker played against real competition in high school. Arch played at a 2 A school, so Basically played against kids just above home screen. He is being ranked by his last name.

    • @picazzo8946
      @picazzo8946 8 місяців тому +9

      @@stweaselSame 2A school where he beat Peyton numbers in TD and Eli yards

    • @picazzo8946
      @picazzo8946 8 місяців тому +1

      And even if you want to say Texas back up secondary sucks, that first play 75 yard bomb TD was a dime to Deandre Moore.

    • @adryellehastings4675
      @adryellehastings4675 8 місяців тому

      ​@@stweaselSo trust your evaluation over Sarks?

  • @BoBarton
    @BoBarton 8 місяців тому +5

    Michael Hawkins being overlooked as OU’s future qb is going to be golden in coming years😅

  • @saldiven2009
    @saldiven2009 8 місяців тому +15

    I'm curious to see what Beck does this year. He's in his 5th year in the program (had a redshirt year), but it's only his second year starting, with only 58 attempts total in the three years he was eligible to play. Typically, this year one to year two progression is where you'd expect the biggest improvement in performance. But, he lost his two biggest receiving targets to the NFL. Additionally, I'd argue that the running backs (assuming health) will be better in 2024 than they were in 2023, and the OL is expected to be strong, so maybe they run the ball more?
    Will be interesting to see how the season plays out.

    • @LaFlamaBlanca757
      @LaFlamaBlanca757 8 місяців тому +7

      Have you seen the WR room he’s throwing to?

    • @saldiven2009
      @saldiven2009 8 місяців тому +1

      @@LaFlamaBlanca757 Of course. There is a lot of talent, none of it has been the go-to guy at UGA yet.
      I personally expect Beck's numbers to improve next year over 2023. But it's always tough to project future performance in CFB. He managed almost 4000 yards in his first year starting. If he improves on that, UGA could be absolutely sick in 2024.

    • @wpony714
      @wpony714 8 місяців тому +4

      @@saldiven2009 Important to note that Kirby has said that he and Bobo held Beck back in the early part of last season. They say they are ready to "take the leash off" completely. If Arian Smith stays healthy, he stretches the field quite a bit.

    • @katarh
      @katarh 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm also curious. He always had slightly stronger fundamentals than Bennett, but Stetty's great strength was being able to dig in and find a way to win the game no matter what. Beck is also very very good but I'm not sure he's got that level of deep nasty grit.
      I was at the spring game and it was incredibly boring football - because the defense is so good it stalled out both offenses. One defensive player admitted they'd seen those offensive plays for the last month straight so they knew exactly what was coming. That..... kind of makes me nervous? But it's also a testament to the core strength of Georgia, which has always been a rock solid defense. We've just actually had good enough offensive production to match it for the last few years, which has been a treat.

    • @ijwilker
      @ijwilker 8 місяців тому

      ​@@wpony714 Arian Smith or Anthony Evans

  • @Travis89-ob5tt
    @Travis89-ob5tt 8 місяців тому +12

    Florida should consider using Lagway similar to how Meyer used Tebow in 2006. Not so much as a battering ram more so with the RPO stuff. He would be hard to stop in the redzone.

    • @Gibb591
      @Gibb591 8 місяців тому

      Just start him

    • @Travis89-ob5tt
      @Travis89-ob5tt 8 місяців тому +10

      Maybe at some point but you gotta see what Mertz can do. His numbers improved A LOT his first year in Gainesville. Also its not great to rush your freshman QB into action with the toughest schedule in the country.

    • @katarh
      @katarh 8 місяців тому

      My FFXIV addled brain hears "Lagway" and thinks he's a Lopporit. (All their names end in "way.")

    • @adammauer6424
      @adammauer6424 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Gibb591start him over a 6th year qb who had a td / int ratio of 20-3 ??? 😂 don’t watch a lot of fb do ya

    • @Gibb591
      @Gibb591 8 місяців тому

      @@adammauer6424 you win

  • @ChineseBandit24
    @ChineseBandit24 8 місяців тому +12

    LSU's Offensive Line is the best in the SEC and possibly the country. Nussmeir is going to GO OFF.

    • @madhatter1110
      @madhatter1110 8 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn't be suprised if nuss passes for almost 400 yards a game.

    • @boosted9319
      @boosted9319 8 місяців тому +2

      LSU barely beat a bad big ten team in the bowl.

    • @madhatter1110
      @madhatter1110 8 місяців тому +3

      @@boosted9319 LSU was also running with a new oc, qb, and wrs in that bowl game. They'll definitely be better than how they performed in that bowl game

    • @boosted9319
      @boosted9319 8 місяців тому +1

      @@madhatter1110 same guys.. just lost some to portal. That was one of the bottom tier big ten teams… not impressed at all.

    • @madhatter1110
      @madhatter1110 8 місяців тому

      @@boosted9319 uneducated

  • @deadlycupofJOE
    @deadlycupofJOE 8 місяців тому +14

    LaNorris gonna shock people

    • @SpurYourEnthusiasm
      @SpurYourEnthusiasm 7 місяців тому +3

      Best quarterback in the country and it’s not even close

    • @deadlycupofJOE
      @deadlycupofJOE 7 місяців тому +2

      @SpurYourEnthusiasm I don't know about that but I love your enthusiasm.

    • @killersaxsolo
      @killersaxsolo 7 місяців тому

      @@SpurYourEnthusiasm funniest thing I’ve read all year 😂

    • @SpurYourEnthusiasm
      @SpurYourEnthusiasm 7 місяців тому +2

      @@killersaxsolo
      I mean it’s true and it’s not even close. Y’all really have no idea how good this guy actually is all he does is score touchdowns.

    • @bobbysmith3196
      @bobbysmith3196 7 місяців тому

      @@SpurYourEnthusiasm
      Only reason this guy thinks it’s funny is because he has No Clue Just How Good Sellers Is!!!
      I Honestly Think he is Just as Good of a Passer as Rattler Is!!!
      10x’s Better of a Runner!!!
      May need some actual Game Time Experience before the Decision Making is up there with Rattler but that’s All LaNorris Needs!!!
      This guy that thinks it’s funny Will be Saying: Our Team has No Chance against SCAR ‘EM UP
      THEIR QUARTERBACK SHOULD BE PLAYING IN THE NFL!!!😊
      Spurs Up☝️
      Go SCAR ‘EM UP!!!
      🏈🏆✅

  • @lochnessmonster5149
    @lochnessmonster5149 8 місяців тому +14

    It's hard to believe that OU and Texas are playing an SEC schedule this year. It just seems foreign.

    • @TheMonst3rmut
      @TheMonst3rmut 8 місяців тому +3

      Texas ain't playing an sec schedule, it's all fluff

    • @tullfarley4962
      @tullfarley4962 7 місяців тому +1

      @@TheMonst3rmutPhil Steele rates Texas SoS at 38; that’s out of 130+ teams. So it’s a bit lower than Texas SoS usually is but it’s still in top third.
      They’ve got 3 rivalry games in ATM, OU and Ark; they play Michigan and Georgia; and some other ranked teams (Kentucky etc).
      Anyone who says a schedule that faces Georgia is “all fluff” has a screw loose.

    • @Mark-zx2bq
      @Mark-zx2bq 7 місяців тому

      ​@@TheMonst3rmutTrue; they aren't playing the SEC norm of 4 powder puff non-conference games.

  • @ccgibbs11
    @ccgibbs11 7 місяців тому +1

    Ty Simpson is a very good and very underrated QB. He could be the starter anywhere in the country.

  • @BigDaddyDoc93
    @BigDaddyDoc93 8 місяців тому +13

    I'm thinking that Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC is gonna make A&M play harder. I remember the late 90's early 00's the Big12 was the premier conference and played some great ball games so maybe getting part of the band back together will make for some awesome football also arkansas was a big rival especially for Texas

    • @caseymiller5257
      @caseymiller5257 8 місяців тому +6

      @@greenwave819 The SEC wasn’t special in the 1990s. It was the big 12 and the Florida schools running CFB.

    • @dcurry5550
      @dcurry5550 8 місяців тому

      Playing hard isn't aggie's issue.

    • @dreamshakejunya
      @dreamshakejunya 8 місяців тому

      @@dcurry5550exactly. They’ve played harder than Texas over the last decade…

    • @cconnell7009
      @cconnell7009 8 місяців тому +1

      The Big XII south could’ve been another worthy SEC division back before conference realignment began with Mizzou and aTm

    • @Shawn-gr8yj
      @Shawn-gr8yj 8 місяців тому

      ​@@caseymiller5257yea like Florida, ugh get outta here w ur weak big 12 bs

  • @Blueian742
    @Blueian742 7 місяців тому +1

    As a uga fan seeing Beck vs Vandergriff would be neat

  • @CiviTac
    @CiviTac 8 місяців тому +6

    Pretty objective rating of the qb rooms. Tennessee, Alabama, OU and SC I think have the highest ceilings for their starters. Bama and Georgia will likely have the best offensive performances because they have less downside

    • @denniscarney5249
      @denniscarney5249 8 місяців тому +1

      You and JP are both off your rockers. Beck is better than Ewers both as a college player and a pro prospect. Gunner Stockton has more experience than Manning. 2 more studs behind them in Rashada and Puiglisi.

    • @CiviTac
      @CiviTac 8 місяців тому +1

      @@denniscarney5249 all unproven dudes other than ewers. I also think they have lower ceilings than the qb’s I mentioned. I think the UT qb room is great tho. They have what they need to compete at a high level.

    • @denniscarney5249
      @denniscarney5249 8 місяців тому +1

      @CiviTac again, the backups for every school are pretty much "unproven." I'll take the guys practicing against the best defense in the country, tho. How exactly are you defining "upside" with dudes whose last serious tape came from high school? Are you one of these guys that are going to tell me DJ U, Cam Ward, and Jordan Travis will be franchise QBs in the NFL?

    • @decline1129
      @decline1129 8 місяців тому

      4.5 star? Lmao

  • @Bryston221
    @Bryston221 8 місяців тому +20

    Michael Hawkins is crazy to write off as Oklahoma’s next qb

    • @Dengland83
      @Dengland83 8 місяців тому +3

      Very true, just shows the limited knowledge on OU. Wait wasn’t ARNOLD also an Elite 11 MVP as well.

    • @Bryston221
      @Bryston221 8 місяців тому

      @@Dengland83 he was and is lol but they crazy Hawkins is crazy crazy good

    • @Bryston221
      @Bryston221 8 місяців тому

      @@Dengland83 Jackson is just as every young fresh start player is, but he’s gonna do his thing eventually

    • @cconnell7009
      @cconnell7009 8 місяців тому +1

      I’d rate the room at an 8 or 8.25. I thought 7.5 was far too low in comparison to how he rated other teams’ QB rooms.

    • @howard4405
      @howard4405 8 місяців тому

      OU gotta earn SEC respect. Ain't none being handed to them.

  • @Noahcabb07
    @Noahcabb07 8 місяців тому +1

    Do more of these with different positions!

  • @realcoleholland
    @realcoleholland 8 місяців тому

    I think the SEC needs to be thankful that they have such great Qbs. Now I can remember the times where SEC qbs were just these statues that were inaccurate but could throw the ball deep (think Zach Mettenburger types. There have been some outliers most notably Cam, Tebow and Manziel) now these qbs are considered like top tier athletes as well as accurate (more scheme change than anything but still) and decent deep ball in this conference now with Dart, Milroe, Ewers, Carson Beck, Nico and the new 5 stars coming in and the QBs that have come out of the SEC as 1st round guys in the last few years have been unreal to the ground and pound conference it used to be just crazy to think about

  • @jwc7215
    @jwc7215 8 місяців тому +8

    Wasn't Conner Weigman something like top 3 in QBR before his injury last season? If that offensive scheme is anything like advertised he could be dangerous.

  • @OG22-wv3gr
    @OG22-wv3gr 8 місяців тому +2

    Diego Pavia the QB who beat Auburn last season against New Mexico St. 🇲🇽🇲🇽

  • @stevelinahan8022
    @stevelinahan8022 8 місяців тому

    Pretty balanced and fair assessments. I am a Longhorn fan but agree with the comments that Ewers and Beck both have to elevate their games this year. Potential aside, it is what they actually have shown in preseason conversations. Both have solid production but not elite which is why they came back to play this year. Depth appears to be an issue in the league and rarely do the starters make it through all year without sitting out a bit. I think Milroe will do really well this year too in a new system but still shine.

    • @willtaylor6793
      @willtaylor6793 8 місяців тому

      Sarks scheme makes Ewers look better than he is imo, not to mention being gifted freaky athletes to throw to his entire career at Texas. And he’s still yet to be tested a full season in a true defensive conference like the SEC is, and considering he still struggled against big 12 defenses I believe that he’s got quite a long way to go to be where some think he’s at.

  • @shanefrederick7731
    @shanefrederick7731 8 місяців тому +9

    UK has decent QB depth for the first time since the Lorenzen/Boyd days. 2 backup QBs whom have started 10+ games plus Vandergriff, not to mention a 4/5 star QB in addition to them.

  • @CallSignWhiplash
    @CallSignWhiplash 8 місяців тому +2

    Once again the cool kids short Oklahoma a point. Y’all need to go back and revisit the tape on Casey Thompson dude is a plug and play baller! Hawkins proved in the spring game he is a dual threat and is flying under the radar of the talking heads. OU QB room is in good shape with Hawkins and Thompson sitting behind Jackson.
    OU should rate 8.5

  • @kenlemmond673
    @kenlemmond673 8 місяців тому +1

    Little known fact about Gunner Stockton, Carson Beck's backup at Georgia is that he threw for 13,500 yds, 177 passing tds and ran for another 77 tds in his high school career. He has little game experience but practices against one of the best defenses in the country! He has followed a trajectory almost identical to Carson's in the program. Arch Manning certainly has better pedigree but has not had the opportunity to practice against a legitimate defense at Texas! When Gunner's time comes, he will have already faced better defenses than he will go up against in real games. Not sure that can be said of Arch.

  • @1tfife28
    @1tfife28 8 місяців тому +12

    what has arch done to merit as the best backup? dont get it

    • @avuci
      @avuci 7 місяців тому

      What has any other backup done for warrant it? It's all speculation

    • @tullfarley4962
      @tullfarley4962 7 місяців тому

      Arch-Some amazing play when he was put into games last year

    • @MeesterCHRlS
      @MeesterCHRlS 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tullfarley4962 Arch played in 1 game last year. A 50 point blow out against Tex Tech.. he went 2/5 for 30 yards.. what exactly were these "amazing" plays?

  • @neilforehand1121
    @neilforehand1121 8 місяців тому

    You talk about unproven backups but at Texas all you mention is if Ewers goes down call in Arch. How many starts does Arch have? Other than have the last name Manning, what exactly has he done?

  • @jeromewilliams1422
    @jeromewilliams1422 8 місяців тому +1

    How do you take into consideration a QB in the equation..who has not signed yet to rate a QB room...

  • @UrbanMiller
    @UrbanMiller 8 місяців тому +1

    I know the order was random, but I just knew Arkansas would be last 😂 I have realistic hopes for this season. Hey, at least we still have baseball and basketball! WPS!

  • @Gators1216
    @Gators1216 8 місяців тому +7

    Mertz played good football last year. Mertz will play GREAT football this year!!

  • @earlemorgan5068
    @earlemorgan5068 7 місяців тому

    Milroe improved so much last year. Look at the difference between USF and Georgia.

  • @buddhastl7120
    @buddhastl7120 6 місяців тому

    Brady Cook is going to put up insane numbers

  • @WynnOn3
    @WynnOn3 8 місяців тому +2

    Cutter Boley has the abilities for Kentucky but the decision making has to get better to be the future. Stone Saunders is a commit that if he stays put is the future at the position

    • @adamrandolph4003
      @adamrandolph4003 8 місяців тому

      Cutter Boley hasn’t played a single college snap. Wdym his decision making has to get better?

    • @laynemarr1694
      @laynemarr1694 7 місяців тому

      Well he chose to play QB at UK…so the decision making is certainly questionable at best.

  • @garrettw4951
    @garrettw4951 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m in the camp of thought that Taylen Green will be good but we will see. Ceiling of all ceilings will be 8 imo and anything less than a bowl game and we won’t have Sam Pittman as a coach. Hitting the reset button in this time of college football is rough.

  • @dirtyhiggins5484
    @dirtyhiggins5484 8 місяців тому +12

    Tennessee at 14:06
    GBO

    • @imresoloman633
      @imresoloman633 8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks. 80% of this video's viewers thank you

  • @chaddover4287
    @chaddover4287 8 місяців тому +25

    "Arch Manning is the best back up in the country". Where the F did you get that from???🤣

    • @ShaunRHouser
      @ShaunRHouser 8 місяців тому +7

      It became obvious when he played against elite competition in high school, won Elite 11, and then stepped in when Ewers got hurt and lit up the teams he played.

    • @RJCE420
      @RJCE420 8 місяців тому +2

      My condolences. The eye test is much easier when they aren't crossed.

    • @wesleymcgee3526
      @wesleymcgee3526 8 місяців тому +2

      Walker Howard is unproven, so Ole Miss has 3rd best qb room. But Arch Manning has 5 completions for 30 yards and is the best backup in the country, lol

    • @atreides_dk
      @atreides_dk 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@ShaunRHouser he did not play elite competition in high school, nor did he light up any team

    • @chw14556
      @chw14556 8 місяців тому

      You must be joking lol

  • @onthelevel222
    @onthelevel222 8 місяців тому +10

    Not being a hater at least not trying to be but why does everyone just automatically places Arch Manning as the best backup in the COUNTRY. How does anyone know that? I don’t know if he’s better than Ty Simpson.

    • @jamesonjohnston92
      @jamesonjohnston92 8 місяців тому +2

      People love a back up quarterback

    • @stevejohnson6248
      @stevejohnson6248 8 місяців тому

      I wouldn't put him ahead of Casey Thompson. He might end up being better but if he gets thrown in the fire it might get ugly. Or he might be great, we just don't know. Texas's secondary is a sieve this year so his Spring Game performance should be taken with a grain of salt. Calling him the best backup in the nation is a huge overstatement.

    • @Alexander_eightyeight
      @Alexander_eightyeight 8 місяців тому +3

      Watch all the film u can on him. Spring game and when he came in last year. He just looks different than everyone else. He honestly looks better than quinn whose been starting for 2 years now. People who scout see a lot of good in his game. And his processing appears to be way ahead of schedule too

    • @stevejohnson6248
      @stevejohnson6248 8 місяців тому

      @@Alexander_eightyeight would love to see him play, you guys feel the same about him as we do about Arnold. Next year will be great seeing them duel in the Cotton bowl.

    • @Alexander_eightyeight
      @Alexander_eightyeight 8 місяців тому +1

      @@stevejohnson6248 Arnold is a guy that really impressed me during his high school days and I’m sure he’s gonna be special too

  • @Crankinstien
    @Crankinstien 8 місяців тому +10

    9.5 for Texas 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🫣

  • @houstonjr.2616
    @houstonjr.2616 8 місяців тому +3

    “Bobby! Work your magic…. On.the.field” 😂

  • @claw8814
    @claw8814 8 місяців тому

    Y'all notice the Isaiah Bond dropped pass at the very beginning of the Milroe highlights? 😂😂

  • @blackwellaustin1
    @blackwellaustin1 8 місяців тому +2

    How is lanorris sellers considered “a lot of potential, but just no experience” but manning is the best back up in CFB??? Biased much. Manning was 2-5 30 yards last year. A good spring game don’t mean anything. I understand being excited about him, but let him do it on the field first.

    • @jamesdo3086
      @jamesdo3086 7 місяців тому

      Manning was also the number one overall recruit in his class. Sellers was not

  • @b3astMode44
    @b3astMode44 8 місяців тому +7

    When Floridas QB room was better than Ole Miss you lost me.

    • @michaeldarley7607
      @michaeldarley7607 8 місяців тому +2

      Well let’s see Florida had graham mertz who had one of the highest qbr’s in the country last year with a TD/INT ratio of 20/3 and they picked up the #1 qb in the country out of high school who does ole miss have after Jaxson Dart

    • @alanstrickland9717
      @alanstrickland9717 8 місяців тому +2

      You're rating the team not the QBs. Mertz has the potential to be a top 5 maybe one of the top 3 QBs in the SEC and DJ Lagway is a future star. The rest of the team is a big ol ? I'm not just drinking the koolaid, his stats backed it up last year, I was originally very underwhelmed when we got him out of the portal. He was also playing some of his best football before he got hurt. Not discounting Jackson Dart at all, he's a serious contender for one of the best in conference, but if he goes down, I would be more excited for Lagway than Howard.

    • @SouthernGreyShark
      @SouthernGreyShark 6 місяців тому

      Completely agree. Florida over OM is stupid.

  • @Jordanwoodstrongman
    @Jordanwoodstrongman 8 місяців тому +1

    Need to mention Micheal Hawkins at OU

  • @kingkritical2779
    @kingkritical2779 7 місяців тому

    Cutter Boley is the qb of the future for KY. Once Vandagriff is gone he’ll step up during his sophomore year (I believe he’s redshirting this year) and be the long term option

  • @picazzo8946
    @picazzo8946 8 місяців тому +7

    Texas 3rd freshman Trey Owens is no joke.Houston area award MVP. Sark does not give out scholarships to bad QB.

    • @JosephAnderson-of9ls
      @JosephAnderson-of9ls 8 місяців тому +2

      Is that a joke? Look up his resume beyond Texas 😂

    • @kyleverdun4586
      @kyleverdun4586 8 місяців тому +1

      Really? Have you ever followed him as a coach? He has made plenty of bad decisions when it comes to QBs.

    • @adryellehastings4675
      @adryellehastings4675 8 місяців тому

      ​@@kyleverdun4586like?

    • @adryellehastings4675
      @adryellehastings4675 8 місяців тому

      ​yeah look it up....He is only considered 1 of the best qb developers in football..

  • @SuperTC75
    @SuperTC75 8 місяців тому +7

    I caught that one Josh work your magic on the field* 😂

    • @Shawn-gr8yj
      @Shawn-gr8yj 8 місяців тому

      Only time he talks my hogs , it's usually that type talk 🤣

  • @jamesmacy7880
    @jamesmacy7880 8 місяців тому

    I don't disagree with you Kentucky score, but Gavin Wimsatt is the clear cut backup and Cutter Boley is there as a true Frosh who should be the QB of the future. Also have Stone Saunders next season.

  • @ronnieperson3420
    @ronnieperson3420 6 місяців тому

    They had a Heisman Trophy candidate and he won the SEC he should be at least 9 in that room

  • @kevinak-d1x
    @kevinak-d1x 8 місяців тому +3

    Connor pretty good

  • @KE-eq3uv
    @KE-eq3uv 8 місяців тому

    I’ll keep the receipts on this one for Shapen.

  • @jeremybrown-HelloJayBird
    @jeremybrown-HelloJayBird 8 місяців тому

    Considering Jackson Arnold has 1 start, I am pleasantly surprised with 7.5 for Oklahoma.

  • @patrose7742
    @patrose7742 8 місяців тому +14

    If Tennessee loses to Florida again this year, I will start to believe Heupel will never win us a championship of any kind.

    • @CTNCS_Gator
      @CTNCS_Gator 8 місяців тому +13

      Florida fans are saying the same thing about Napier and losing to Kentucky.

    • @Grandpa_popi
      @Grandpa_popi 8 місяців тому +2

      Homie Florida is loaded don’t take it to heart, and they just added best wr in portal today.

    • @katarh
      @katarh 8 місяців тому

      Speaking as a Georgia fan..... please beat Florida.

    • @imresoloman633
      @imresoloman633 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Grandpa_popi that's fair, but everyone is severely underestimating Tennessee's talent/ roster/ depth. They lost next to nobody important in the portal but brought in a lot of day 1 SEC caliber players

    • @imresoloman633
      @imresoloman633 8 місяців тому +1

      @@katarhthey will. This is the most talented team Tennessee has had in almost 20 years. People trash them, but they barely lost anyone to the portal besides liabilities. They aren't winning a NC, but they quietly improved every weakness from last season, including multiple freshman all American DBs, the top TE, a 5 star LT, and got their team leaders back and healthy.

  • @CardinalChris502
    @CardinalChris502 8 місяців тому +6

    We don’t know what Arch Manning is…if his last name was Smith he would be just another dude holding a clipboard

    • @bigtexas517
      @bigtexas517 8 місяців тому

      Did you watch anything on him from the spring games?

    • @CardinalChris502
      @CardinalChris502 8 місяців тому +4

      @@bigtexas517 The spring game supposed change your opinion?

    • @bigtexas517
      @bigtexas517 8 місяців тому

      @@CardinalChris502 yes, I was meh on him because he hasn’t done anything, but he looked good. Most people will say stuff about how the Texas secondary is bad and I would agree. But he was putting the ball where it needed to be nearly every time, the third string also looks really good and I could care less what his last name is

    • @adamrandolph4003
      @adamrandolph4003 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah bad qbs have a way of looking pretty good in spring games where they can’t get tackled

    • @Westcoastsooner
      @Westcoastsooner 8 місяців тому +1

      Bingo

  • @David-tm8sl
    @David-tm8sl 8 місяців тому +6

    LSU is totally unproven. Don’t understand their high rating at all😮

    • @dylan8738
      @dylan8738 8 місяців тому

      Garrett Nussmeier dropped 300 yards and 2td's in the SEC championship game in his 1st ever start at LSU against the best defense in the country
      (Georgia) dude is a stud when it comes to the deep ball. go watch those highlights. Collin Hurley was a 5 star QB in the 2025 class but he reclassified to 2024 and he got lowered to a 4 star since he's a year younger. but Nuss has definately proven that he can ball and he played behind and learned from the Heisman for 2 seasons.

    • @aldoraine1400
      @aldoraine1400 8 місяців тому

      It’s called LSU privilege. They get ranked high every year no matter what they actually do. Brian Kelly gets ranked high even though he hasn’t done much. College football media loves LSU more than any other team it seems. They can go 9-3 every year and still be picked to win it all. All talk no substance.

    • @earlemorgan5068
      @earlemorgan5068 7 місяців тому

      Nussmeier could conceivably have a JaMarcus Russell 2016 year without the cough syrup.

  • @WyattTeague-p6g
    @WyattTeague-p6g 6 місяців тому

    Arch Manning being the best back up in the country just isn’t realistic

  • @i-primeproductions1517
    @i-primeproductions1517 6 місяців тому

    Missouri at a 7.25 even with the backup situation is low.

  • @onthelevel222
    @onthelevel222 8 місяців тому +7

    Okay I’m going to be a Bama homer. Why is Texas and Georgia’s QB rooms so much better than Bama? You may be able to argue that Beck and Ewers is better than Milroe - maybe. But not that much better. So now you have to judge the rest of each’s room. Is the rest of Texas or UGA’s qb rooms that much better than Bama’s? I’m not so sure.

    • @skipgumphrey9579
      @skipgumphrey9579 8 місяців тому +5

      I’m thinking we’re about even with Georgia, but I’d give Texas an edge…
      RTR

    • @onthelevel222
      @onthelevel222 8 місяців тому

      @@skipgumphrey9579 Based on Manning?

    • @stevejohnson6248
      @stevejohnson6248 8 місяців тому +1

      I think you have a great QB but only if your new HC can make his offense work with him. I don't see Milroe putting up the passing numbers Penix did. Asking Milroe to pass it over 500 times might be a stretch so I hope they can adapt the offense to complement him.

    • @onthelevel222
      @onthelevel222 8 місяців тому +4

      @@stevejohnson6248 Don’t expect him to put up Phenix type of passing numbers. It is possible that he could combine passing and rushing numbers that are equally good. However, I’m comparing this room to UT and UGA.

    • @Marktastik86
      @Marktastik86 8 місяців тому +1

      Milroe not even the best qb at Alabama Simpson is.
      Roll tide!

  • @stevesherlock5334
    @stevesherlock5334 8 місяців тому

    I agree Quinn has to step up in big moments. There has just been something missing with his attitude.

  • @freshprince1784
    @freshprince1784 8 місяців тому +7

    Michael Hawkins is 100% the future of Oklahoma lol

    • @ethanfaulkner5930
      @ethanfaulkner5930 8 місяців тому +1

      🤫 shhhhh don’t tell anyone. We gotta hide him from the prortal

    • @freshprince1784
      @freshprince1784 8 місяців тому

      @@ethanfaulkner5930 aye you right😂😂😂

    • @Chiilyyt
      @Chiilyyt 8 місяців тому

      Kevin Sperry will be future

  • @BigDawgBrett
    @BigDawgBrett 8 місяців тому +1

    I made it to given LSU a 9. You lost credibility with that ridiculous Florida rating. The LSU was the final straw. These takes are getting harder and harder to take seriously. Honestly about to stop watching...

    • @Travis89-ob5tt
      @Travis89-ob5tt 8 місяців тому +2

      Mertz had almost 3k yards 20 TD 3 INT 73% in 11 games. They also the best QB in the country. I'm curious what's not to like about Florida's QB room?

  • @samuelsheff1007
    @samuelsheff1007 8 місяців тому +7

    9.5 for Texas, then you said Euwers isnt elite but good with two QBs behind him that hasnt took a snap in live game action... ok lol

    • @stevejohnson6248
      @stevejohnson6248 8 місяців тому +3

      Exactly, Ewers has been living on his potential since he was a junior in HS.

    • @vidpie
      @vidpie 8 місяців тому

      Manning played the entire fourth quarter against Texas Tech and in the final series of the Big 12 title game.

  • @HerbHerman-le5ux
    @HerbHerman-le5ux 8 місяців тому

    I took Alabama to win sec championship at +850 simply bc it’s probably been 15 years since their odds were that long to win sec. What do y’all think?

  • @lyndonyoung6756
    @lyndonyoung6756 8 місяців тому +1

    Alabama has at least a 9 in that room.

    • @yelalol
      @yelalol 8 місяців тому

      and bama just got keelon russel. josh is tweakin with this rage bait of a video 😭😂

    • @lyndonyoung6756
      @lyndonyoung6756 8 місяців тому

      @@yelalol not rage bait. It just an opinion. His rating weren’t bad he just is a little low on guys like Ty Simpson and high on guys like arch manning.

  • @Dengland83
    @Dengland83 8 місяців тому +1

    Why do you give Tennessee and Nico more of an edge than OU and Jackson. They both played roughly the same amount last year. Jackson in his time threw more TD’s, higher comp%, higher rushing and passing avg. played in more pivotal game, on the road against BYU. He has just as a high ceiling as anybody if not higher.
    You watched that Arizona game as I did, he has something that is extremely rare, the ability to forget bad plays, he kept throwing with confidence. It was a perfect lessons learned game for him and will prove a great thing for the upcoming season. I think OU should be around 8-8.5. They arguably have the most experience with the backup.

  • @adamrandolph4003
    @adamrandolph4003 8 місяців тому

    UK has at the very least a potential long-term answer in Cutter Boley. He was a highly regarded recruit and if you factor in recruiting (like you must be for Arch Manning) then you must not have done your research on the UK roster

  • @HD_tempest
    @HD_tempest 8 місяців тому +1

    I still don’t get the hype around arch. Like he’s not some generational talent. Based on everything we’ve seen of him he’s probably an average to above average QB

  • @raleighsanford5111
    @raleighsanford5111 8 місяців тому

    I remember watching Jaxon Dart in the bowl game a couple of year ago, if it wasn't for him, Ole Miss loses to Tech by 50 & he did it while getting beat up consistently in the game.

    • @davidpalmer3790
      @davidpalmer3790 8 місяців тому +1

      He’s tough. Thankfully the offensive line should be better. There’s also a pretty big difference between the level of competition Dart has been playing versus Ewers. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ewers doesn’t improve much this year or if he regresses because he’s going to be playing better teams, although Texas does have a pretty favorable schedule.

  • @calnoble4651
    @calnoble4651 8 місяців тому

    Palmer’s review had the wrong receivers catching the ball based on the routes he was lining up at the beginning of the play. The movements were wonky with Burton innovating. In short I am not sure Palmer actually understood what was going on

  • @legofront0114
    @legofront0114 8 місяців тому +3

    Although I don’t agree with it 7.5 for OU is fair. That being said I think Michael Hawkins is the future QB here and anyone who watched the entire spring game knows it. Best part is that he will actually have time to develop and become a better baller rather than being thrown into the fire.

    • @Shawn-gr8yj
      @Shawn-gr8yj 8 місяців тому

      U will learn soon that ou isn't all that , they been in a bs conference since Switzer better hang those banners cus u ain't getting any in the sec

  • @robertschwarz3076
    @robertschwarz3076 6 місяців тому

    Problem with ranking is Georgia plays Junior College teams.

  • @gatorguysix7631
    @gatorguysix7631 8 місяців тому

    Haven’t been impressed with Dart or Milroe. A lot of the other QB’s are unproven due to insufficient data on them. Mertz is accurate and will run when needed. Watch for a Lagway package akin to Tebow/Leak.
    Gators will look different this year, which is a good thing. GoGators!

  • @kyleverdun4586
    @kyleverdun4586 8 місяців тому +1

    I dont get how Eweres is viewed as a great QB? His total QBR for last season wasn't even in the top 15, and his best game didn't even reach the top 5. He is decent to good at best.

    • @adryellehastings4675
      @adryellehastings4675 8 місяців тому

      You need to inform the NFL scouts of your opinion..I think there saying he is the 1st qb taken...

    • @willtaylor6793
      @willtaylor6793 8 місяців тому

      @@adryellehastings4675you mean the QB who makes half of his yards plus off of dink and dunk RPO gimmick schemes that don’t exist in the NFL the way they do in college? Or are you talking abt the QB who’s deep ball has a 50/50 chance of winding up in the defenses hands? 1st off the board my ass, if Ewers is the first QB off the board we’re confirmed living in a simulation

    • @adryellehastings4675
      @adryellehastings4675 8 місяців тому

      @@willtaylor6793 "dink and dunk"..odd...Sark ran the same offense VERY successfully in Atlanta..🤔🤔🤔...#1 high school Qb....Playoffs his 2nd yr starting...Ryan Day accepted his commitment and enrollment at 17...Sark greedily accepted his transfer commitment..Predicted to be the first Qb taken in the draft...You hate Texas..You hate Quinn...Or do you just flat out hate both??Cause the kid has been the no 1 Qb in his age group since he got old enough to be ranked....FACTS..

    • @willtaylor6793
      @willtaylor6793 8 місяців тому

      Speaking of dink and dunks btw, did you know that 90% of Ewer's passes in 2023 were under 20 yards? Or that over half were under 10 yards? Or that 30% were behind the damn line of scrimmage? If you seriously believe that he actually did anything to deserve full credit on the stats sheet for these passes that were entirely on the ball catcher to make the play then you should never argue in a football context ever again. These kinds of stats don't make an NFL QB, and his deep ball accuracy concerns, sloppy footwork, low release and gimmicky offense that doesn't develop a QB's necessary NFL skills are all valid concerns I have in regards to Ewer's skill.
      Just for a lil info too, I was born in Austin and have been to nearly 50 Texas games in my lifetime and in all likelihood know more about the program than you ever have :).

    • @willtaylor6793
      @willtaylor6793 8 місяців тому

      @@adryellehastings4675 and despite his #1 ranking in HS he got continually outhrown in the elite 11 competition by both Ole Miss's walker howard and Texas A&M's conner weigman and has yet to live up to that ranking by a pretty good sized margin.

  • @GaParanormal
    @GaParanormal 7 місяців тому

    14:10 quarterback has not been a strength for Auburn for years....... they f***** up royally with that Brian Harrison shity ass coach making Bo Nix quit and go to oregon...... ridiculous

  • @davidpalmer3790
    @davidpalmer3790 8 місяців тому +5

    Pretty nonsensical to have TN’s rating above Ole Miss.

    • @CiviTac
      @CiviTac 8 місяців тому

      Dart definitely more proven. Won’t disagree there. Kid from Tennessee has a higher ceiling tho. I just have no idea what depth looks like with either of their rooms tho

    • @davidpalmer3790
      @davidpalmer3790 8 місяців тому

      @@CiviTac OM has good to great backups. I can understand ranking TN higher after the season if he does better, but there’s just no reason to rank him higher than Dart at this point. He’s a Heisman contender.

  • @charliehersey7790
    @charliehersey7790 7 місяців тому

    It's crazy how deep the SEC is😅

  • @svenkreuzberg2274
    @svenkreuzberg2274 8 місяців тому

    To rank rookies aka guys who had 1 game over guys who participate in Conference Titlegames is crazy. Same with Thorne ... he should be 2nd to last just 0,00005 points better as Vandy.

  • @twitchentropy7786
    @twitchentropy7786 8 місяців тому

    Did you know of another Josh Pape on s You Tube WGU school ad?

  • @JMFBizzle
    @JMFBizzle 8 місяців тому +4

    Mertz is a dawg

    • @CTNCS_Gator
      @CTNCS_Gator 8 місяців тому +2

      I understand the reference, I just don't like it. Unless dawg means a toothless, country bumpkin that prefers relations with animals, then no...Mertz isn't a dawg.

    • @JMFBizzle
      @JMFBizzle 8 місяців тому +2

      @@CTNCS_Gator it means he's tough. We often use slang descriptors for emphasis in writing.
      Kind of like you've got a corn cob up your a. Same kind of thing.

    • @CTNCS_Gator
      @CTNCS_Gator 8 місяців тому +2

      @johnberger8817 As I stated, I'm familiar with the modern reference. I just don't particularly like it because it mimics the spelling of the nickname for that team in Athens, GA.
      Nice pejorative aimed at me, BTW.

    • @JMFBizzle
      @JMFBizzle 8 місяців тому

      @@CTNCS_Gator LOL, glad you caught that. All in fun.

  • @calnoble4651
    @calnoble4651 8 місяців тому +5

    Dang Nico above Jalen already given no second stringer in Tennessee

    • @huntercondra1113
      @huntercondra1113 8 місяців тому +4

      Gaston Moore may not be a flashy name but he is a very solid backup. He has been in Heupels offense since Heup was at UCF

    • @taimajordan8339
      @taimajordan8339 8 місяців тому +2

      I totally agree regarding Gaston Moore. He understands the system, and he's a vet. Very underrated.

    • @imresoloman633
      @imresoloman633 8 місяців тому +1

      The freshman, Jake Merklinger tore up the orange and white game as well.

    • @calnoble4651
      @calnoble4651 8 місяців тому

      @@huntercondra1113 I am sure Tennessee has a second stringer. I was basing off Josh’s evaluation.

    • @jeremyg8286
      @jeremyg8286 8 місяців тому +1

      Jake Merklinger was a 4 star recruit and we have another 5 star coming in after this season. TN QB room is fine. It’s kind is similar to LSU. They have the No. 1 and No. 2 QB’s in the 2025 class

  • @chrisnipper8573
    @chrisnipper8573 8 місяців тому +1

    Oklahoma's OC last year was an idiot, he barely ever let Jackson Arnold get a y meaningful snaps, not even wnen they were blowing teams out!

    • @dmanwainright2132
      @dmanwainright2132 8 місяців тому

      Is the new OC a step up for Oklahoma U?

    • @chrisnipper8573
      @chrisnipper8573 8 місяців тому +1

      @@dmanwainright2132 1,000% he literally cost us the Kansas game with HORRIBLE PLAY CALLING AND CLOCK MANAGEMEMT

  • @gypsyba190
    @gypsyba190 8 місяців тому

    You’re rating floridas qb the same as Alabama!!?!?? The bama rating is low id say a 9 but to say they’re equal to Florida is criminal

  • @newkidontheblockism
    @newkidontheblockism 8 місяців тому +1

    Florida has the two best qb’s in the sec

  • @ronaldtipton6035
    @ronaldtipton6035 6 місяців тому

    7 25 is too low for Mizzou. Cook is better than that. 4th in SEC in passing yards, 6th in QB Rating.
    Pate is saying that they are only 0.75 better than Kentucky, who's getting their QB's via the portal?

  • @danieljennings2839
    @danieljennings2839 8 місяців тому

    News on ryan williams please

  • @tsully4368
    @tsully4368 8 місяців тому

    Given the choice this season I'd take Beck/Stockton over Ewers/Manning. Manning lacks rep's. He's not ready to jump in full time against Michigan, Oklahoma, Georgia. Beck's just better than Ewers.

  • @edwardcampbell7292
    @edwardcampbell7292 8 місяців тому

    What about Marcel Reed ?

  • @daylanflowers8447
    @daylanflowers8447 8 місяців тому

    I gotta disagree man, Although we haven't seen much of Walker or Austin Simmons, we can say the same thing about Arch. Walker and Austin two very high recruited guys like Arch

    • @daylanflowers8447
      @daylanflowers8447 8 місяців тому

      Guys that know have a year in the system as well

  • @Patrick-xs6jt
    @Patrick-xs6jt 8 місяців тому

    That’s the first time I disagreed with you. Arkansas 6.5 & A&M 7.0????

  • @Mmmmbrett
    @Mmmmbrett 5 місяців тому

    Nico is gonna lead SEC stats; watch.

  • @Vandychris24
    @Vandychris24 7 місяців тому

    @Josh Pate.....you do realize Vandy has 2 qbs that have actually won SEC football games, right? Pavia is a 10 game winner with a SEC road win yet you rate Auburn, the team he destroyed in their own house, a higher rating. The back up is Nate Johnson, who started multiple games at Utah and beat a SEC as a freshman.

    • @erichill7603
      @erichill7603 7 місяців тому +1

      I honestly didn’t even know vandy fans existed

  • @ChickenBoneNews
    @ChickenBoneNews 8 місяців тому +3

    Go Georgia Bulldogs from Augusta Georgia 🏈🏈🏈

  • @Shawn-gr8yj
    @Shawn-gr8yj 8 місяців тому

    know you only talk about the frontrunners on this show is the norm but putting arky at the doormat talk about them last and so on , i think 6.5 is very low smh, hopefully he and bp prove us all wrong but i believe the qb room is much better than ur giving credit

  • @robertnicholas7647
    @robertnicholas7647 8 місяців тому +1

    Pate is a hack. Cook 3k passing, 21 TDs, 6 INT. 6 rushing TDs. 60% completion.

  • @danl1319
    @danl1319 6 місяців тому

    The Mizzou rating is a joke. Cook is going to light it up this season. And Mizzou has a credible, experienced backup who played at Notre Dame

  • @Hutch-Hutch-
    @Hutch-Hutch- 8 місяців тому +1

    Cool now do the other 3 conferences, do your best to not leave out the BIG12, I know that’s hard for you but I’m sure you and Jesse can accomplish this task. Best of luck to you both.

    • @A_K_Adams
      @A_K_Adams 8 місяців тому +2

      Why would he. Nobody cares about y’all

    • @Shawn-gr8yj
      @Shawn-gr8yj 8 місяців тому

      Big 12 lol they dont deserve a top 4 bid in playoffs they just lost the only teams that made it even decent ​@@A_K_Adams

  • @myrtlemyrtle5110
    @myrtlemyrtle5110 8 місяців тому

    Why would Auburn bring in all those WR’s and not have a qb who can get it to them. Then wrs going to be in the portal quick

  • @justinandroid3381
    @justinandroid3381 8 місяців тому +1

    Same ole Texas suck-fest.
    Quinn “isn’t elite”. Arch is the best backup in the country? How so? His 5 attempts for 30 yards ? So not elite and someone that has five more snaps than me is somehow the best backup and the aggregate score comes to 9.5. Makes perfect sense.
    Oh and Arch played at a bum school in a bum division in high school. “He broke his uncles passing record!” Yeah they didn’t run five receiver hurry up sets when Peyton was in high school 35 years ago. Arch will be a bust, perfectly at home at Texas

  • @AbrahamBatres-zz6pt
    @AbrahamBatres-zz6pt 8 місяців тому +1

    Arch manning overated! Was not impressive in highschool. Played at small private school and 1 spring game doesn't mean anything. Mark my words Texas is not back they be the biggest disappointment in cfb