We've covered the timeline. Now let's dive into the prosecution's case. It's all circumstantial, but is it good enough to convict? #truecrime #scottpeterson (sound fixed)
Great job on this episode! Each episode I am more and more convinced he did it. I can accept a few coincidences, but man there’s just way too many here. Forget how he even acted after she disappeared, or how a husband wouldn’t leave an 8month pregnant wife all day, forget all that. The fact that he bought a small, non salt water boat the day he almost got caught by his mistress for being married, then the fact that the day after his pregnant wife is missing he is calling his mistress like life is all good, then how her body literally turned up in the exact spot he fished in. Come on now. I think he killed her the night before and dumped her that next day and he spent a great deal of time planning it. That’s why he did so much research on the Bay (right after getting almost caught being married coincidentally) only to rig the wrong lines for fishing and have the wrong size boat for fishing the bay? Come on now! Guilty as the sky is blue.
100% agree. And he also told the police that he just wanted to get that boat in the water and it was a last minute decision, yet he purchased a fishing license for the 24th and 25th. Not only that, but if the goal was to just get the boat in the water, he could have taken it to any of the surrounding lakes around Modesto, after all the boat was made for fresh water, as you mentioned. After reading the court transcripts, I know he murdererd Laci and Conner. And he's the type that will never admit. I think he will go to his grave being what he is, a murderer and a liar.
big fan of the pod, guys :) working my way through your catalogue (thanks to a reddit recommendation) and really appreciate the insight you both bring!
Funny, I'm the opposite when it comes to an important appointment where I may be nervous. I bring a coffee or bottle of water to appear more relaxed, like the appointment isn't a big deal. I may not sip from it at all, but having a prop seems to help.
I'm the same way. I starve myself all day for a holiday dinner so i can stuff my face. If I come home and I'm starving I'll have a cookie or something to tide me over. But a pizza before a big holiday dinner?
Scott tells Amber he lost his wife a couple of weeks before she went missing, and this would be his first Christmas without her. And, by christmas, Laci really was gone! On the day he said that to Amber he bought a secret boat no one knew about. He also made five anchors, four of which were never recovered. The one that they did have, didn't match the cement in the driveway, which is where Scott said he'd used the rest of the missing cement, proven in court. Laci didn't know about, nor had she ever been in the boat, yet, a couple of Lacis hairs were found, wound tightly in some pliers. Agreed to take a lie detector test, but backed out after his father advised him not to. Upon returning home, he immediately washed his clothes, ate, and took shower. After getting out of shower, instead of just calling Lacis cell phone one more time, he calls her mom and tells her Laci is missing. He told, at least, three people he'd been playing golf, before finally sticking to the fishing story. Speaking of fishing, Scott told the detectives that going fishing that morning had been a last minute decision. But, this was an obvious lie because he'd purchased a two-day fishing license dated for the 23rd & 24th, a few days before. Or, maybe he's just psychic, and predicted he'd be making that "last minute" decision! When he took the detectives to his warehouse, he led them to believe the power was out, when the truth was, only his office in the warehouse had lighting, but the warehouse, itself, was only lit by a sky light during the day. When he went to the station to answer questions, he was already refering to Laci in past tense. Saying, "Laci was pregnant." Shouldn't that be IS pregnant? It wasn't past her due date. He did the same thing in his interview with Diane Sawyer. By then, he'd been made aware he shouldn't do that, as he immediately corrects himself saying, "is amazing" after he'd said 'was'. A huge red flag for the detectives on the case. On the night of Dec 24th, the day Laci went missing, Scott was already inquiring about grief counseling for Lacis family. Really??? She's not even yet gone a full 24hrs! I've never heard of anyone doing that over someone being missing for only a few hours! It just seems like Scott knew she wasn't coming home. The next day, Scott called the detectives asking them if they'd be bringing in and using cadaver dogs. She hadn't even been gone a full 24hours, and, he is inquiring about cadaver dogs! Another huge red flag to the detectives working the case! He sold Lacis car while still missing, before her body was found. And, inquired about selling their home before she was ever found too! He even wanted to sell it with all their furniture! Supposedly, he doesn't know if Laci is dead or alive, but has no problem selling her car and their home, with all their stuff in it? He told lie after lie after lie. Of course the big, well known lie was when he called Amber from Lacis vigil. Right before, during, or after just doesn't matter, at all! His mistress should've been the last thing on his mind at any moment during that event. It was well known he didn't want children, and wasn't thrilled about Laci being pregnate. Even telling his sister-in-law he was hoping for infertility. Laci telling her mom Scott wouldn't touch her belly to feel baby kicking. He didn't participate in the searches for Laci, opting instead, to secretly go to the bay, park his car, and just watch the search that was going on in the bay. Instead of showing grief about his wife being missing he, instead chose to flirt with his sisters baby sitter. Offering to make her drinks he called, "flirtinis". The baby sitter was so weirded out by Scott, she left! In one of the recorded calls with Amber, Scott tells her that if the police find any evidence, he'd lose his freedom. Not a confession, but close enough! When the due date, of the birth of his missing baby came around, he didn't have a gathering of friends & family to remember Laci & Conner. No, he didn't do anything at all to remember them. And, that would've been fine, if he chose to do nothing, no problem. But, he DID choose to do something. Since that day was also Ambers Bday, Scott chose to celebrate it, by hiding a bag of jewelry and a CD, etc for Amber to pick up. It seems it was Amber he wanted to remember & honor, not his missing wife & baby. When a body of a baby washed ashore, and then a body of a woman who had been pregnant washed ashore shortly after, within just a couple of miles from where he says he was 'fishing', he never even called anyone about it to see if it was Laci. About a week or so later, he was caught trying to flee with just about everything he owned, BUT his golf clubs and golf shoes. I add that he didn't have his clubs & shoes because Scott tried telling the cops that he was just going to play golf, not flee! However, the list of things he had with him is just as long, if not longer than my list here. What avid golfer goes to play golf with everything he owns BUT his clubs & shoes? I could go on & on! I know there's more, but I'm drawing a blank on the rest. Can anyone else think of anything I've forgotten? Okay so, one or two things on this list would be maybe a coincidence. three or four things --- sketchy, but okay. All these things plus more --- he's guilty, guilty, guilty! And, I don't even have it all listed here.
Great comment. The one anchor Scott had in the boat had not rope on it. Ladies was found with beige pants on, not black. Which was the colour of pants she was wearing on the evening of 23rd, when Scott and Lacie went to the hair dressers. Scott was surprised after he returned home from fishing and he sees Lacie's car in the driveway, and the dog with the leash on but he doesn't hit the panic button when the house door is not locked. Also her keys and phone are in the kitchen. He never once says Connor's name, he only says baby. Scott never says, I love my wife. He actually increase their life insurance policy a couple of months before Lacie's death. They were having money problems, as Lacie was selling her jewelry so Scott goes out and buys a boat. The money Scott used to buy the boat came from a personal bank account only in Scott's name. Scott left the house on the 24th closer to 10 am and the dog was put in the backyard at 10:18 am. Not much time for a sightings of Lacie to take place. All in all Scott is exactly where he belongs, in jail. Now that death row is off the table, Scott will be in the general population. I hear inmates are not keen on murders of women and unborn babies. Just saying.
Great post. What makes me laugh is, in the documentary, The Murder of Laci Peterson, there's a lot of pro Scott people there and one guy, a defence lawyer who I think works with Scott's Lawyer, he talks about the hair in the pliers and he's saying something like "I would hope they'd find her hair there, she's his wife, her hair should be everywhere" I'm over here going...her hair isn't everywhere though, it's in a pair of pliers. 🙄
Can you imagine someone murdering your daughter, and discovering it's your own son-in-law who won't admit he did this when everything points to him? He had no heart to tell the family where he put her, after months of searching!!! Unbelievable!!! Sharon Rocha had to deal with all that and on top of it Scott lying the entire time to her and the Rocha family. Scott wouldn't even let the Rocha's in the house he and Laci shared to get her things. They had to break into the house to get Laci's belongings. Scott, and the entire Peterson family are horrible, horrible people. All they want is Scott out of prison because he's just so precious to them. Scott is extremely dangerous, more than most of those murderers in prison because he is so calculating, and narcissistic and can lie straight to your face. If he ever gets out, he will murder another innocent soul. And by the way, the Peterson's can care less that he killed Laci and Conner. All they want is Scott out of prison. I hope he NEVER gets out!!
Scott said he told Laci about his affair with Amber. Does anybody really think that she would be okay with Scott going an hour and a half away to go "fishing" on Xmas eve? I don't think so. I don't believe he told her. I think he strangled her that morning after she got ready for the day and took her out to the bay and dumped her.
He was hiding like a celebrity because of Amber. He told her he lost his wife and the first holiday without her. He had no idea it would snowball as it did.
Maybe he was banking on sharks taking them out, but you would have to go near or past the Golden Gate Bridge for that to happen. I'm glad he was dumb enough to leave her in the bay.
Great episode! I think he planned to say he was golfing whilst dumping the body in the bay thinking there would be nobody at the marina. But he changed his plans after being seen and talking to people there. Later he might just have confused his own stories in the heat of the moment with some people?
I remember that there was a witness that said there was a different pregnant lady with a dog. Maybe when he’s leaving, he sees this other person and gives the description of what SHE is wearing to the police. He’s thinking how lucky he is that eye witnesses may confuse the two.
How come nobody ever considers the possibility that if he didn't do it he might be happy she's gone, that's why he's not so upset. He is that type. Lol Also, he's a pathological liar. He told everyone early on he was golfing then changes up after when the police are on him. When he was arrested with the blonde hair he said his hair got lightened because he had been in his friend's pool! 😆
Evil Queen I’ve been saying that first part forever. The dude was probably holding it in, how happy he was that she magically disappeared and he didn’t have to go through a divorce. He changed his mind just last minute in the morning so it appeared he was trying to pull a fast one. Lastly, they knew about his color changed hair and changed facial hair, he colored his hair but said it got even lighter because of being in a pool in the sun. So many little details are often skewed because people wanted him to burn in hell. But I believe there was a reasonable doubt and so he should have been acquitted and found guilty in the civil court
I always had that feeling if he was innocent. If they had a bad marriage, hated each other, Scott starts cheating, then he probably already emotionally detached himself from Laci and moved on. This may be an insensitive example, but it reminds me of Seinfeld when George's fiancé' Susan dies and the doctor is stunned at how well he took it. 😂
New England's Insomniac Theatre exactly. Few people realize this and it’s prime example of narcissism. I do not have narcissistic personality disorder nor any mental health diagnoses but I am very aware of my attributes and honestly I often display narcissistic traits. I’m a successful doc who would never murder anyone outside of defending my life or my family’s and truth be told, I see a lot of myself in Scott or vise versa however you want to put it. I think some driven people move on quick and slice and dice through life. Your analogy from Seinfeld is very eye opening btw.
The boat...so many things about the boat....I think he never meant for anyone to know he went out to 'fish' (I know, duh)- I think he bought a freshwater boat to maybe be able to say "I never owned a boat that I would take out on the ocean"...It maybe later occurred to him that they would be able to tell that it had been in the ocean- and he maybe had to come out with that if he was seen, too. That's why golf fell through. Maybe the theory about him going out earlier in the morning is true, and then he had to take it out again because he realized the same thing- that they would know it was in salt water that day. He likely had several backup plans if this was something he plotted to do. I think he was also already planning to do this before he even met Amber, because he already had solid excuses on their first date for why he was not going to be seeing her for months. If Laci were still alive, you'd think he would be able to sneak off like he had been....but he seems like he knew he would need to stay away from her for a while to not get busted- it's not like he told the police about her.
He didn’t call the mom and say he couldn’t find her. He called and said « she’s missing. ». Phone records show he didn’t call anyone else but her parents. He did go ask a neighbor. He told his in-laws and the neighbor he went golfing. He bought a two day fishing i license for the 24th on thé 20th. On thé 6th, the woman who set him up with Amber found out he was married and told Scott, he had to tell her or she would. On the 9th, he bought a boat and told Amber his wife had died. Just some things that don’t seem great for him.
@@lisakatosh5359 that’s makes it even worse…I get everyone behaves differently in times of trauma but if your spouse was missing, wouldn’t you call everyone?
@@shannonswanson4219 Yes you would think he would have called her friends, checked with neighbors, and at least look around for her before calling and announcing she's missing. I think he had it planned to call and say she's missing without thinking it through.
@@lisakatosh5359 She wasn't at Sharon's like Scott had believed. So at that point she is missing. She was "missing" enough for her own mother to have Ron call 911. You're not making sense Patty.
Thanks for bringing up a point that I've wondered about- why was he fishing at the absolute wrong time of day?? Was it because he hoped that he'd be able to avoid being seen, by going out on a day (Christmas Eve) when there were not likely to be many other boats out, at a time when few fishermen would actually be out on the water? And that going out in the middle of the night would potentially draw attention? But still, as you said, if *anyone* was out during the time he chose, they'd be likely to see him! And, as you also said, I've wondered how he could've managed to dump a body overboard (especially a weighted body!) into choppy water without capsizing the boat! Also, his phone message reminds me A LOT of Jodi Arias's voicemail to her recently-murdered ex-boyfriend! Like, disconcertingly so: the oddly-stilted cutesy tone, the seemingly-faked emotion, the overly-chipper and forcedly-casual manner of speaking...ugh.
I was married to someone, at best, he had a casual interest in my well being. Very self centered and couldn’t be bothered. Having said that, like with most narcissists or folk with high narcissistic traits, appearances are EVERYTHING. If I went missing and he had nothing to do with it, even if he was having an affair, he would have gone nuclear to get himself off the hook. News interviews, setting up search teams -whatever. He would have done any and everything to avoid being charged AND to prove his innocence. Reports and attorneys saying Scott was trying to hide an affair…. Please. His ass is on the line and he wanted to protect amber. Right. Guilty. God bless Laci’s family.
I guess I haven’t been living on earth…whenever this happened I apparently wasn’t watching TV because the only thing I knew was he was accused of doing away with his wife. In the intervening years all I knew was there were 2 men tried and convicted of killing their wive’s named Petersen and this was the other guy. Since starting to listen to TP they have referenced the case enough that I finally decided to see what it’s all about. So far (in this series) what you think of him hangs on whether or not you think what Scott does that particular Dec is strange and weird, or familiar and commonplace. That’s it. Even the circumstantial evidence comes off more as circumstantial suggestion. Maybe the next few episodes will reveal more evidence but I’m not actually holding out much hope!
Episodes awesome on SP so far! Was it ever told what time the dinner was supposed to be on Christmas Eve? I have never heard the time on any videos or shows watched
The water in those courtroom caraffes is always SO stale and gross tasting! I get super cottonmouth all the time due to a medication I take, but I never dare sip water from those caraffes just because the taste makes me involuntarily look disgusted- NOT a look you want to have in court unless it's intentional!
My husband was an hour and a half away pheasant hunting when I went into labor at 8 months with our first 😬😆 He’s an awesome, non-murdering (so far) husband and father 😂
I get the sense that he didn't think much of women's ability to read...listen...think, etc. In fact, he seemed to work quite hard to give the impression that he didn't believe *anyone* could possibly be even vaguely close to as brilliant as him.
I've never been able to make sense of the dog running around the neighborhood with the leash on like that. It certainly fits better with the narrative that Laci was abducted while walking the dog at a park. If he did kill Laci, how does the dog factor in? I guess one could argue Scott let the dog out to create the illusion Laci took her for a walk. If that's the case, then what's with all the sightings?? Very curious your thought's on that. There were a lot of people that saw her... 31 I believe? Kind of hard to miss a women walking a big dog on X-mas eve 8 months pregnant. Certainly some are false, but all of them??
@@ProsecutorsPodcast Pardon my impatience, I know it's coming 😂 Could be the biggest mistake Geragos made, not bringing any of the witness on the stand. Jurors said they would've liked to have heard from them. Looking forward to the next episode.
@@DoctorColonelGonzo there was a reason he didn't call them in to testify. I don't think it was a mistake. It was because they weren't credible and they'd have been discredited on the stand during questioning.
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 I get why he didn't, but the jurors would've like to have heard from them, so ultimately I think it was a missed opportunity. With so many witnesses certainly some could have been credible in creating reasonable doubt.
Lacis phone and bag was in the house. If Laci had taken dog for a walk she would have had her bag and phone with her - so she didnt go for a walk. Strange how he didnt have any concern. This creep went on xmas eve because he thought there would be few people around. Police would be few on the ground. People would be away with their families so not in their normal routines. It was the perfect time to dump a body. He never thought they would wash up on shore- he really thought he would get away with it. No body - no murder. RIP LACY AND CONNOR.
People do act in all sorts of ways in stressful situations but he is way too casual in the police interview, he looks bored, un interested and almost cocky.
I really like how you present cases.
First heard of this podcast because of the Delphi case. I’m hooked. Definitely my favorite!
Great job on this episode! Each episode I am more and more convinced he did it. I can accept a few coincidences, but man there’s just way too many here. Forget how he even acted after she disappeared, or how a husband wouldn’t leave an 8month pregnant wife all day, forget all that. The fact that he bought a small, non salt water boat the day he almost got caught by his mistress for being married, then the fact that the day after his pregnant wife is missing he is calling his mistress like life is all good, then how her body literally turned up in the exact spot he fished in. Come on now. I think he killed her the night before and dumped her that next day and he spent a great deal of time planning it. That’s why he did so much research on the Bay (right after getting almost caught being married coincidentally) only to rig the wrong lines for fishing and have the wrong size boat for fishing the bay? Come on now! Guilty as the sky is blue.
100% agree. And he also told the police that he just wanted to get that boat in the water and it was a last minute decision, yet he purchased a fishing license for the 24th and 25th. Not only that, but if the goal was to just get the boat in the water, he could have taken it to any of the surrounding lakes around Modesto, after all the boat was made for fresh water, as you mentioned. After reading the court transcripts, I know he murdererd Laci and Conner. And he's the type that will never admit. I think he will go to his grave being what he is, a murderer and a liar.
I think he dumped her the night before as well
big fan of the pod, guys :) working my way through your catalogue (thanks to a reddit recommendation) and really appreciate the insight you both bring!
Funny, I'm the opposite when it comes to an important appointment where I may be nervous. I bring a coffee or bottle of water to appear more relaxed, like the appointment isn't a big deal. I may not sip from it at all, but having a prop seems to help.
To fully appreciate a big dinner , you must resist snacking on pizza beforehand at all costs.
I'm the same way. I starve myself all day for a holiday dinner so i can stuff my face. If I come home and I'm starving I'll have a cookie or something to tide me over. But a pizza before a big holiday dinner?
Scotty did it! thanks guys for your fantastic podcasts. I’m totally hooked. 💜
Scott tells Amber he lost his wife a couple of weeks before she went missing, and this would be his first Christmas without her. And, by christmas, Laci really was gone!
On the day he said that to Amber he bought a secret boat no one knew about.
He also made five anchors, four of which were never recovered. The one that they did have, didn't match the cement in the driveway, which is where Scott said he'd used the rest of the missing cement, proven in court.
Laci didn't know about, nor had she ever been in the boat, yet, a couple of Lacis hairs were found, wound tightly in some pliers.
Agreed to take a lie detector test, but backed out after his father advised him not to.
Upon returning home, he immediately washed his clothes, ate, and took shower. After getting out of shower, instead of just calling Lacis cell phone one more time, he calls her mom and tells her Laci is missing.
He told, at least, three people he'd been playing golf, before finally sticking to the fishing story.
Speaking of fishing, Scott told the detectives that going fishing that morning had been a last minute decision. But, this was an obvious lie because he'd purchased a two-day fishing license dated for the 23rd & 24th, a few days before. Or, maybe he's just psychic, and predicted he'd be making that "last minute" decision!
When he took the detectives to his warehouse, he led them to believe the power was out, when the truth was, only his office in the warehouse had lighting, but the warehouse, itself, was only lit by a sky light during the day.
When he went to the station to answer questions, he was already refering to Laci in past tense. Saying, "Laci was pregnant." Shouldn't that be IS pregnant? It wasn't past her due date. He did the same thing in his interview with Diane Sawyer. By then, he'd been made aware he shouldn't do that, as he immediately corrects himself saying, "is amazing" after he'd said 'was'. A huge red flag for the detectives on the case.
On the night of Dec 24th, the day Laci went missing, Scott was already inquiring about grief counseling for Lacis family. Really??? She's not even yet gone a full 24hrs! I've never heard of anyone doing that over someone being missing for only a few hours! It just seems like Scott knew she wasn't coming home.
The next day, Scott called the detectives asking them if they'd be bringing in and using cadaver dogs. She hadn't even been gone a full 24hours, and, he is inquiring about cadaver dogs! Another huge red flag to the detectives working the case!
He sold Lacis car while still missing, before her body was found. And, inquired about selling their home before she was ever found too! He even wanted to sell it with all their furniture! Supposedly, he doesn't know if Laci is dead or alive, but has no problem selling her car and their home, with all their stuff in it?
He told lie after lie after lie. Of course the big, well known lie was when he called Amber from Lacis vigil. Right before, during, or after just doesn't matter, at all! His mistress should've been the last thing on his mind at any moment during that event.
It was well known he didn't want children, and wasn't thrilled about Laci being pregnate. Even telling his sister-in-law he was hoping for infertility. Laci telling her mom Scott wouldn't touch her belly to feel baby kicking.
He didn't participate in the searches for Laci, opting instead, to secretly go to the bay, park his car, and just watch the search that was going on in the bay.
Instead of showing grief about his wife being missing he, instead chose to flirt with his sisters baby sitter. Offering to make her drinks he called, "flirtinis". The baby sitter was so weirded out by Scott, she left!
In one of the recorded calls with Amber, Scott tells her that if the police find any evidence, he'd lose his freedom. Not a confession, but close enough!
When the due date, of the birth of his missing baby came around, he didn't have a gathering of friends & family to remember Laci & Conner. No, he didn't do anything at all to remember them. And, that would've been fine, if he chose to do nothing, no problem. But, he DID choose to do something. Since that day was also Ambers Bday, Scott chose to celebrate it, by hiding a bag of jewelry and a CD, etc for Amber to pick up. It seems it was Amber he wanted to remember & honor, not his missing wife & baby.
When a body of a baby washed ashore, and then a body of a woman who had been pregnant washed ashore shortly after, within just a couple of miles from where he says he was 'fishing', he never even called anyone about it to see if it was Laci.
About a week or so later, he was caught trying to flee with just about everything he owned, BUT his golf clubs and golf shoes. I add that he didn't have his clubs & shoes because Scott tried telling the cops that he was just going to play golf, not flee! However, the list of things he had with him is just as long, if not longer than my list here. What avid golfer goes to play golf with everything he owns BUT his clubs & shoes?
I could go on & on! I know there's more, but I'm drawing a blank on the rest. Can anyone else think of anything I've forgotten?
Okay so, one or two things on this list would be maybe a coincidence. three or four things --- sketchy, but okay.
All these things plus more --- he's guilty, guilty, guilty! And, I don't even have it all listed here.
Great comment.
The one anchor Scott had in the boat had not rope on it.
Ladies was found with beige pants on, not black. Which was the colour of pants she was wearing on the evening of 23rd, when Scott and Lacie went to the hair dressers.
Scott was surprised after he returned home from fishing and he sees Lacie's car in the driveway, and the dog with the leash on but he doesn't hit the panic button when the house door is not locked. Also her keys and phone are in the kitchen.
He never once says Connor's name, he only says baby. Scott never says, I love my wife.
He actually increase their life insurance policy a couple of months before Lacie's death.
They were having money problems, as Lacie was selling her jewelry so Scott goes out and buys a boat. The money Scott used to buy the boat came from a personal bank account only in Scott's name.
Scott left the house on the 24th closer to 10 am and the dog was put in the backyard at 10:18 am. Not much time for a sightings of Lacie to take place.
All in all Scott is exactly where he belongs, in jail. Now that death row is off the table, Scott will be in the general population. I hear inmates are not keen on murders of women and unborn babies. Just saying.
@@pamwalton6992 I don't think he increased the insurance policy.
Great post. What makes me laugh is, in the documentary, The Murder of Laci Peterson, there's a lot of pro Scott people there and one guy, a defence lawyer who I think works with Scott's Lawyer, he talks about the hair in the pliers and he's saying something like "I would hope they'd find her hair there, she's his wife, her hair should be everywhere" I'm over here going...her hair isn't everywhere though, it's in a pair of pliers. 🙄
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Can you imagine someone murdering your daughter, and discovering it's your own son-in-law who won't admit he did this when everything points to him? He had no heart to tell the family where he put her, after months of searching!!! Unbelievable!!!
Sharon Rocha had to deal with all that and on top of it Scott lying the entire time to her and the Rocha family.
Scott wouldn't even let the Rocha's in the house he and Laci shared to get her things. They had to break into the house to get Laci's belongings.
Scott, and the entire Peterson family are horrible, horrible people. All they want is Scott out of prison because he's just so precious to them. Scott is extremely dangerous, more than most of those murderers in prison because he is so calculating, and narcissistic and can lie straight to your face. If he ever gets out, he will murder another innocent soul. And by the way, the Peterson's can care less that he killed Laci and Conner. All they want is Scott out of prison. I hope he NEVER gets out!!
Scott said he told Laci about his affair with Amber. Does anybody really think that she would be okay with Scott going an hour and a half away to go "fishing" on Xmas eve? I don't think so. I don't believe he told her. I think he strangled her that morning after she got ready for the day and took her out to the bay and dumped her.
He was hiding like a celebrity because of Amber. He told her he lost his wife and the first holiday without her. He had no idea it would snowball as it did.
That's the irony
Maybe he was banking on sharks taking them out, but you would have to go near or past the Golden Gate Bridge for that to happen. I'm glad he was dumb enough to leave her in the bay.
Great episode! I think he planned to say he was golfing whilst dumping the body in the bay thinking there would be nobody at the marina. But he changed his plans after being seen and talking to people there. Later he might just have confused his own stories in the heat of the moment with some people?
I remember that there was a witness that said there was a different pregnant lady with a dog. Maybe when he’s leaving, he sees this other person and gives the description of what SHE is wearing to the police. He’s thinking how lucky he is that eye witnesses may confuse the two.
How come nobody ever considers the possibility that if he didn't do it he might be happy she's gone, that's why he's not so upset. He is that type. Lol
Also, he's a pathological liar. He told everyone early on he was golfing then changes up after when the police are on him.
When he was arrested with the blonde hair he said his hair got lightened because he had been in his friend's pool! 😆
Evil Queen I’ve been saying that first part forever. The dude was probably holding it in, how happy he was that she magically disappeared and he didn’t have to go through a divorce. He changed his mind just last minute in the morning so it appeared he was trying to pull a fast one. Lastly, they knew about his color changed hair and changed facial hair, he colored his hair but said it got even lighter because of being in a pool in the sun. So many little details are often skewed because people wanted him to burn in hell. But I believe there was a reasonable doubt and so he should have been acquitted and found guilty in the civil court
I always had that feeling if he was innocent. If they had a bad marriage, hated each other, Scott starts cheating, then he probably already emotionally detached himself from Laci and moved on. This may be an insensitive example, but it reminds me of Seinfeld when George's fiancé' Susan dies and the doctor is stunned at how well he took it. 😂
New England's Insomniac Theatre exactly. Few people realize this and it’s prime example of narcissism. I do not have narcissistic personality disorder nor any mental health diagnoses but I am very aware of my attributes and honestly I often display narcissistic traits. I’m a successful doc who would never murder anyone outside of defending my life or my family’s and truth be told, I see a lot of myself in Scott or vise versa however you want to put it. I think some driven people move on quick and slice and dice through life. Your analogy from Seinfeld is very eye opening btw.
thank you, good investigation!
I hope Scott's delusional sister in law Janey is listening.
I just wanna say, guilty as hell, but as a lover of cold pizza don’t underestimate when we might sneak a piece 😂😂
The boat...so many things about the boat....I think he never meant for anyone to know he went out to 'fish' (I know, duh)- I think he bought a freshwater boat to maybe be able to say "I never owned a boat that I would take out on the ocean"...It maybe later occurred to him that they would be able to tell that it had been in the ocean- and he maybe had to come out with that if he was seen, too. That's why golf fell through. Maybe the theory about him going out earlier in the morning is true, and then he had to take it out again because he realized the same thing- that they would know it was in salt water that day. He likely had several backup plans if this was something he plotted to do. I think he was also already planning to do this before he even met Amber, because he already had solid excuses on their first date for why he was not going to be seeing her for months. If Laci were still alive, you'd think he would be able to sneak off like he had been....but he seems like he knew he would need to stay away from her for a while to not get busted- it's not like he told the police about her.
He didn’t call the mom and say he couldn’t find her. He called and said « she’s missing. ». Phone records show he didn’t call anyone else but her parents. He did go ask a neighbor. He told his in-laws and the neighbor he went golfing. He bought a two day fishing i license for the 24th on thé 20th. On thé 6th, the woman who set him up with Amber found out he was married and told Scott, he had to tell her or she would. On the 9th, he bought a boat and told Amber his wife had died. Just some things that don’t seem great for him.
He went and asked the neighbors because Sharon told him to.
@@lisakatosh5359 that’s makes it even worse…I get everyone behaves differently in times of trauma but if your spouse was missing, wouldn’t you call everyone?
@@shannonswanson4219 Yes you would think he would have called her friends, checked with neighbors, and at least look around for her before calling and announcing she's missing. I think he had it planned to call and say she's missing without thinking it through.
@@lisakatosh5359 She wasn't at Sharon's like Scott had believed. So at that point she is missing.
She was "missing" enough for her own mother to have Ron call 911.
You're not making sense Patty.
Thanks for bringing up a point that I've wondered about- why was he fishing at the absolute wrong time of day?? Was it because he hoped that he'd be able to avoid being seen, by going out on a day (Christmas Eve) when there were not likely to be many other boats out, at a time when few fishermen would actually be out on the water? And that going out in the middle of the night would potentially draw attention? But still, as you said, if *anyone* was out during the time he chose, they'd be likely to see him! And, as you also said, I've wondered how he could've managed to dump a body overboard (especially a weighted body!) into choppy water without capsizing the boat!
Also, his phone message reminds me A LOT of Jodi Arias's voicemail to her recently-murdered ex-boyfriend! Like, disconcertingly so: the oddly-stilted cutesy tone, the seemingly-faked emotion, the overly-chipper and forcedly-casual manner of speaking...ugh.
Lacy's step dad was fishing the same day
@@lossincasa and?
@@sophie8394 Nothing. He admitted it in court. Apparently lots of people do fish that day and at that time.
@@lossincasa Ron didn't drive 90 miles from home to fish though.
The Behavior Panal took a look at this case, too. My opinion….He is guilty….No doubt about it.
I was married to someone, at best, he had a casual interest in my well being. Very self centered and couldn’t be bothered. Having said that, like with most narcissists or folk with high narcissistic traits, appearances are EVERYTHING.
If I went missing and he had nothing to do with it, even if he was having an affair, he would have gone nuclear to get himself off the hook. News interviews, setting up search teams -whatever. He would have done any and everything to avoid being charged AND to prove his innocence.
Reports and attorneys saying Scott was trying to hide an affair…. Please. His ass is on the line and he wanted to protect amber. Right. Guilty. God bless Laci’s family.
I guess I haven’t been living on earth…whenever this happened I apparently wasn’t watching TV because the only thing I knew was he was accused of doing away with his wife. In the intervening years all I knew was there were 2 men tried and convicted of killing their wive’s named Petersen and this was the other guy. Since starting to listen to TP they have referenced the case enough that I finally decided to see what it’s all about. So far (in this series) what you think of him hangs on whether or not you think what Scott does that particular Dec is strange and weird, or familiar and commonplace. That’s it. Even the circumstantial evidence comes off more as circumstantial suggestion. Maybe the next few episodes will reveal more evidence but I’m not actually holding out much hope!
Episodes awesome on SP so far! Was it ever told what time the dinner was supposed to be on Christmas Eve? I have never heard the time on any videos or shows watched
Good point about the email.
The water in those courtroom caraffes is always SO stale and gross tasting! I get super cottonmouth all the time due to a medication I take, but I never dare sip water from those caraffes just because the taste makes me involuntarily look disgusted- NOT a look you want to have in court unless it's intentional!
IANAL, but I've had to spend a great deal of time in court, both due to work and a complex & acrimonious divorce.
There were only 3 people out on the water that day? Well, maybe they should have checked the other 2 as possible suspects 🤔
Or at least check on their wives.
Lacy's dad was fishing that day as well, but they all forget to mention it, like that poor Hernadez lady
@@lossincasa Ron Grantski wasn't fishing in the SFB where the bodies washed up 🙄
My husband was an hour and a half away pheasant hunting when I went into labor at 8 months with our first 😬😆 He’s an awesome, non-murdering (so far) husband and father 😂
She had the tan pants on the 23 rd of December.
Which is why prosecutors said she waa killed that night.
Yes, and a floral print shirt. Amy, her sister gave this evidence when Scott got a haircut
I first heard about Scott peterson in 2015, I'm pretty sure in 2002, I wasn't paying enough attention to have heard of him
So Scott's working premise is... women.... don't... read the news?? 🤔
I get the sense that he didn't think much of women's ability to read...listen...think, etc.
In fact, he seemed to work quite hard to give the impression that he didn't believe *anyone* could possibly be even vaguely close to as brilliant as him.
@@maneckineckbeard1749 Not according to testimony. Friends and family testified Scott treated Laci very well.
I don’t fast before holiday meals..not everything operates the way it would for you, female cohost.
Laci's sister Amy saw Laci and Scott on December 23 and said that Laci was wearing tan pants and a black top with little flowers. Just saying.
I've never been able to make sense of the dog running around the neighborhood with the leash on like that. It certainly fits better with the narrative that Laci was abducted while walking the dog at a park. If he did kill Laci, how does the dog factor in? I guess one could argue Scott let the dog out to create the illusion Laci took her for a walk. If that's the case, then what's with all the sightings??
Very curious your thought's on that. There were a lot of people that saw her... 31 I believe? Kind of hard to miss a women walking a big dog on X-mas eve 8 months pregnant. Certainly some are false, but all of them??
We get there. Eventually.
@@ProsecutorsPodcast Pardon my impatience, I know it's coming 😂
Could be the biggest mistake Geragos made, not bringing any of the witness on the stand. Jurors said they would've liked to have heard from them. Looking forward to the next episode.
@@DoctorColonelGonzo there was a reason he didn't call them in to testify. I don't think it was a mistake. It was because they weren't credible and they'd have been discredited on the stand during questioning.
@@reneenayfabnaynay5679 I get why he didn't, but the jurors would've like to have heard from them, so ultimately I think it was a missed opportunity. With so many witnesses certainly some could have been credible in creating reasonable doubt.
@@DoctorColonelGonzo If they weren't credible why bring them in to testify. It would have looked even worse for him.
Lacis phone and bag was in the house.
If Laci had taken dog for a walk she would have had her bag and phone with her - so she didnt go for a walk.
Strange how he didnt have any concern.
This creep went on xmas eve because he thought there would be few people around.
Police would be few on the ground. People would be away with their families so not in their normal routines.
It was the perfect time to dump a body.
He never thought they would wash up on shore- he really thought he would get away with it.
No body - no murder.
RIP LACY AND CONNOR.
Do Brett and Alice think he did it?
I'd say...yes.
Anyone with good critical thinking skills thinks Scott did it.
PLEASE... Check out The Behavior Panel’s analysis.. Especially their take on that awful,interview with Diane Sawyer...
All I can say is Scott is a liar. There is no truth in him.
People do act in all sorts of ways in stressful situations but he is way too casual in the police interview, he looks bored, un interested and almost cocky.
Alice is priceless
No it’s not better regarding COVID-19.