W800 Cafe' Long Term Review
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Long Term Review of my 2019 W800 Cafe' ABS.
Mileage is around 2,400.
Owned for Since Mid 2020
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Excellent review. Like you, I also stumbled into one having seen it in the local dealers show room for a number of months. A little like the shy kid at a new school. I fell in love with looks and once ridden I had to have it. About a week after owning it I called back in on the dealer for some parts for a different bike I own and the salesman asked with a knowing smile, ‘how’s it going” I said, I think it’s Kawasaki’s best kept secret. He simply replied, ‘isn’t it just’. The fact is it is the most surprising little big bike that does nothing perfect but makes everything fun.
Kudos to you sir. This is the best review I've seen for this bike and I've watched every single one on YT I think...I feverishly watched any review I could find before I bought a leftover 2019 W800 Cafe last May. This is my first road going motorcycle and honestly couldn't have done better for a beginner bike. It's got all the nice safety features that a noobie like myself requires. Unfortunately mine started to leak a bit of oil from the bottom section of the bevel driveshaft after about 1,800 miles. It sat at the dealer for almost 3 months waiting for backordered parts cause of Covid and I lost out on a lot of riding time :( Kawasaki did the right thing though and extended my warranty another full year and gave me 400$ worth of accessories atleast.
Thanks so much’! I have seen some guys talk about that leak. Seems like it either happens or just doesn’t at all. Feel like I read that you don’t really mess with the bevel drive after it’s set.... man. Sorry to hear that. Good on them for making it better for ya. Feel like the customer service is pretty good for Kawi overall. How’s the bike going now?
@@bertsbike Great ty for asking. No issues since getting it back in November thank goodness. They didn't offer the warranty extension so easily...I was on their case pretty good and just kept on them telling them how displeased I was with the situation, lots of phone calls and frustration lol. Initially they only wanted to extend the warranty as long as the dealer had the bike for. Eventually they cracked and I got them to give me a whole 'nother year. So I will be riding the bike hard this season and if any issues arise I will be sure to bring the bike at the end of the season (granted its not something major) this time for warranty work. I'm in New York so we only get a good ~8 months of riding time out of the year
@@spydye21 did your bike withstand the torture? :-)
@@deegxpert Yup! No issues since thankfully
@@spydye21 I have the W650 , I ride it hard and it seems to like it . Dave NZ
Just picked up a W800 Cafe ( new) and put the first 80 break in miles on it. I've had 20 bikes in the past, from Triumph trophy 250 to Harleys and GSX-R. I think this will be my favorite of all time. My HARLEY Nightster is intensely jealous 😊.
Awesome! congrats on the bike! Such a great machine! I’ve owned a few bikes as well and this is definitely on the top 3!
Honestly the absolute best review of any motorcycle I’ve seen yet. You did a perfect real world review
Hey there! Thanks for the comment! Appreciate it!
With so many beautiful bikes out there. I'm so fascinated by this bike for some strange reason.
Yeah. I’ve looked around to replace it. But I can’t find anything that I would like better as a daily. I guess I’ll just add to. 😆
because this bike has a unique look. In my area I see a lot of sports bike. I have the street version of this bike and it’s a head turner.
I just bought a 2021 standard W800 and I love it. Very fun to ride and nostalgic, as it reminds me of the first big bike I rode as a 18yr old kid, which was a 1970 BSA Lightning 650. The W series has a direct lineage to BSA, in fact.
Great bike and it’s a totally different experience to ride in comparison to my Honda VTX1300 cruiser.
Got a new 2020 cafe a month ago. Have 1700 miles. Love this bike!
Congrats on the bike. Is the 2020 the black colour? Future classic for sure!
@@bertsbike same metalflake brown as 2019.
@@bertsbike 2023 street model has black tank. No fairing.
Thanks for the excellent review. I'm picking up my new W800 Cafe tomorrow. Can't wait!
Thanks! Let us know how your first few rides go!
@@QuentinsMotoVlog Nice! Congrats on the bike! Watched the video!
@@bertsbike cool! I’m very much the amateur vlogger but I do enjoy it. Cheers!
Great review- esp the rotating camera shots, luv it. Appreciate the extra mile on the feel, the sound & the general vibe of this bike- no other review of the w800 compares. thx again
Really appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
This video is probably the most balanced review on the W800 cafe on youtube right now. I've had my Cafe since Oct 2020 and have about 1800 miles on it now and basically agree with everything you said. I do wish the bike had a bit more horsepower, but I get that isn't really the purpose of this machine. There are plenty of other bikes available if you want to go fast.
Regarding the center stand -- the OEM center stand from Kawasaki bolts right up to this bike with only one issue -- you have to modify the left footpeg bracket by cutting off the rear facing wire loop exhaust gaurd. The center stand has a wire loop that occupies this space. The left footpeg bracket on the Cafe and Standard bikes are different parts with different part numbers -- one has the rear loop, one does not. It is very easy to cut off the rear loop since the footpeg bracket is really easy to remove (one bolt). I used a hacksaw and a file, then a touch of black paint later and it looks factory. The only other (slight) issue is that the 18" front wheel on the Cafe vs the 19" front wheel on the standard bike does make it a bit more difficult to deploy the center stand.
If you want to mount a center stand on the Cafe, you'll need the center stand, center stand spring, two center stand bolts, two center stand nuts, and the rubber bumper on the exhaust crossover.
Thanks! Good to know. I’ve gotten used to not having the center stand and just walking the bike forward when cleaning the chain.
I like this review because it is really stressing to the character which is the main reason this bike felt special. Not everything should be fast nor sporty. It's a bike that you can ride for lifetime.
I had mine since Sep 2019; racked up close to 12000kms already. A beautiful bike with soul.
Couldn’t agree more!
Any paint, rust issues? Im looking to purchase a used one with only 500 kilometres. The owner bought a z900rs that maybe suits his riding style.
@@Dranreb865 Nothing really to note. I have a slight gripe on the tank paint in my video.
I've had mine since 2019...(w-800 cafe) super cool chill bike for around town
I have had a w800 for a year now I love it ,feels very much like the norton's I had would I buy it again ,Yes!
Still a great video a year later. Hope all who watch, know I own the same bike and believe is the best bike I have ever had. This is a great review!
Hey there! thanks so much for watching! appreciate the kind words and feedback!
Very nice looking bike love the color, glad they finally brought them to the states! If you're concerned about preserving the tank try using an Xpel wrap. I have one installed on my RnineT. I had a professional install it.
Great review. I’ve been out of the motorcycle game for at least a decade. Gave it up after our 2nd kid. Now have 4 of them but wanting to ride again. My last bike was a 73 CB750 that I did a lot of work too, had it cafe’d out and was pretty cool. Just happened to look online at motorcycles just to see what the manufacturers having been putting out and I instantly was liking the W800. It’s my style of bike. Thx for the good review
I like when the motors use gears internally as compared to belts and chains
Super great review. You gave a lot of useful information, unlike so many reviews that are useless. So thx.
Appreciate that! I try to approach it more from a practical standpoint. Thanks for watching!
I bought one yesterday. I’m not a huge fan of the clubman bars, but like you said, I have ordered the standard bars. It has really good power, and I am looking forward to putting miles on it.
I bought a 2019 model with 706 miles on it for $5990. Seems like a good deal.
Congrats on your new bike! Yup those clubmans are an acquired taste. Yup 6k is a great deal. New they were 10k
That’s a excellente review, very comprehensive ! Thanks 👍
Thanks! Appreciate the watch!
I just picked one of these up about 3 months back and do not have many miles on her. Would definitely like to learn more!
Had my W8 since 2015; standard not cafe; have owned 25 bikes in my time ranging from 350LC, GSXR1000, Exup, Fireblade, Versys, GPz750 etc etc; I rate this W8 in the top 3 with XT600 and VFR750. There's a sort of "X Factor" when it comes to the general purpose capabilities of a bike, and these 3 have it in my experience.
Regards from UK.
Totally. I keep looking to replace it with something else but really can’t find anything I’d rather have. So I guess I’ll just add to the collection. I get what you mean about the X factor. The only ones who know what you’re talking about are other owners
@@bertsbike Absolutely. Keep up the good work.
I have this bike and I love it. It's just an all around solid moto.
Fo’ Real!
Fun review! Love the curved cowling exhaust pipes looks like a Triumph. Center stand is a must- must spin the tire and check for nails etc. before the ride
Thanks for watching! Yes, the centerstand!
they are as close to a modern retro as you can get without out all the headaches of a real vintage. They have more British style and heritage than the current triumphs. They are basically 773cc fuel injected BSA's but made by Kawasaki. When you want reliability but also a true vintage feeling ride you get one of these.
Exactly!
I own one, after years of kawasaki sports bikes, I really like the riding position. You'll note that it is gifted with 51mm front forks which means that you can have fully adjustable internals, as well as uprated rear suspension, it's no sports bike, but, it doesn't really matter, I can recommend the cafe version 👍😊
Didn’t know that about the forks. Good to know! I love the riding position as well! It grows on ya if you’re not used to being leaned forward
@@bertsbike hi Bert, yes good isn't it, put some tt100s on as well, and you'll have a more planted feel in the corners. I don't go in for bling without purpose.
I was particularly impressed with the quality of finish and attention to detail, a real quality bike.
Just want to thank everyone for watching this vid! It’s over 10K. Wow! Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already! Appreciate you! 🎉🎉
I had the w650 and it had the smoothest gears I ever experience of the 50ish bikes I have owned. A buddy of mine says the same thing when he tried my bike and he has owned at least 200ish bikes. After riding my w650 he asked me what I did to it to make it so smooth. I told him it was a secret tune, lol.
Yes, It has had the smoothest gear box of any bike I’ve ridden.
I'm 50-ish bikes-owned as well , W650 is great , don't be afraid to push-it , they love it . Dave NZ
@@kdsowen2882 Yes! Keep those revs up!
I’m really happy I found your channel because the scout and the w800 cafe are the two bikes I’ve been deciding between now that it’s time to sell my started bike.
I rented the scout and rode 160 miles on it and loved it. The upright position was so comfortable on backroads, but you’re right… it got tiring on the highway. The clubman bars on the w800 make my back sore just looking at them but I want to go sit on one at a shop soon. It also helps the w800 is half the price of a scout.
I’m W800 Biased. If you can get a 2019 Cafe, the dealers have quite a markdown on them at the moment bars are easily swapped out if you don’t want the lean. The Blue 2021 Standard is in the US now and is quite an looker. Standard bars with a centerstand 💪.
The Scout is a really good bike with character as well. Super fast. Low and long. If you’re going USA cruiser it’s hard to beat that kicked back ride. Good luck! Update us on which one you go with!
I absolutely love mine, came from two different Triumphs. It is lighter feeling (moving it around when off etc.)Such a great bike and yes 3,500 is the only vibration. Just make sure to keep checking your exhaust flange! If they get loose the two pieces will jettison!
Are you speaking from experience? Lol
@@bertsbike you know it lol! So glad these finally came to North America, been waiting for years! When thinking about selling my second Triumph (Thruxton 900) was going to get a Moto Guzzi V7... Then Kawasaki released the W800 cafe and street in Canada!
@@andrewhannam. haha. Yeah had some previous Triumph owners tell me I made the right choice. Now if Kawi came out with a legit scrambler/off road version I would definitely have two
Ah, so they'll vibrate loose on their own? This should be easy to just drill them out then
Excellent review and presentation. Stay safe.
Hey ya! Appreciate it!
Sometimes I wish I wasn't planning on everything else ( found a new 20' for $5700 ) cause I would have that kind of money lying around . Thanks for sharing
Excellent review Bert! I like how you communicate, very elocuent, clear and pleasant. It's always better hearing about your experience and opinion versus bunch of specs like others do.
Hey there! Appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
Recently bought a trail 125 as my first bike/scooter but this is definitely gonna be my second, great vid 👍
Thanks! When you’re ready it’s a blast!
Good vid I’m looking at a left over . My first bike was an 1800cc vtx1800 and my last was a Ducati multistrada 1200. I was worried the bike might be boring for me but everyone has nothing but good things to say about these bikes
Yeah, it’s got great vibes and is a more than capable machine. The stance puts you in the zone for sure. I haven’t owned anything above a 1200, but any bike is more than a spec sheet. Still love riding 250’s and 300’s. I feel like the W800 does balance performance with practicality.
@@bertsbike I cross the country on a Yamaha bolt cafe I owned . It was a good bike . Makes about the same power as the w800 just different type of engine never owned a parallel before .
I’ve been lucky spent 7 of the last 10 years touring North America on bikes. For a few years at a time. I stopped for covid and just had my first kid so I want a bike to ride around town to the stores and stuff
This w800 looks like a perfect bike for that.
Did you buy one ? Dave NZ
Great video!!! So fun yet informative... beautiful scenery.
Great review! What I’m really curious to know how on earth did you film yourself from the front and around? I have never seen such sorcery
Thanks! It’s a 360 camera. You just record and pick the angles later.
I can vouch for the Denali lights - I bought a brand new 2018 Triumph Bonneville T120 Black and the stock headlight was terrible. Before upgrading to a Motodemic LED headlight, I added a set of Denali DM on the forks. Absolutely incredible. You can't go wrong with them, especially positioning them a bit wide so you can see deer lurking on those dark country roads :(
Took one for a ride on a demo day, loved the exhaust note. Riding position, not so much.
Yeah, the cafe version isn’t for everyone. Lots of guys just change out the bars.
@@bertsbike I think the bars off my z900RS Cafe would be perfect for it.
@@The_Tactical_Sombrero Ooh, I love the Z900RS Cafe!
There’s a used one for sale at my dealer right now. Very tempting. Thanks for the review! 🙂
No problem. great bike. Pretty sorry I sold mine…
Had a lot of questions about the ergonomics and you answered them. Nice riding tips, too. Thank you
No probs! Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
The W800 is a fine example that you don't need a shit load of horsepower to have a LOT of fun.
Exactly!
Definitely correct. Usually smaller less powerful bikes are way more fun for everyday rides.
Great. Looking for a long term reliable commuter. Triumph 120😟
Enfield 650 😘
W800 😊
I bought my w800 in june of 2020 and absolutely love it. However, I still am thinking of replacing the clubman bars and going to the regular street version handlebars. The only other complaint I have is the bias tires.
Yeah those clubman bars are an acquired taste. I’ve heard a lot of people complain about the tires. I have noticed them track a little but I guess I’ve gotten used to them. Gonna go for a set of knobbier tires after they wear out.
@@bertsbike I really notice them on the grooved highway pavement going fast, otherwise they are ok.
I would try risers first, it is much cheaper solution , maybe $25 , easy to install, I saw lots of video that owners used the riser and they were very happy with the result.
@@HS99876 I’ve seen that on a few bikes. Seems like a good way to go!
@@bertsbike yes, it is kemimoto riser 1 1/8 inch on Amazon, hopefully it works for you
Nice review! Thanks!
Thanks John!
You can mod the bike for more power easily...new efficient mapping kit is available.
Good to know. I’m good with what it is but I may want more. Lol!
how do I do this
You can also use the center stand from the W650 or from the older version of the W800. I have the 2019 Street and i mount a center stand from a 2011 W800. You can mount it easy, just a little modifying. You must cut the heat protection.
Ah! Good to know! Thanks for the info!
very nice pipes,lovely bike
Thanks TJ! The W800 is a winner!
Got the same W800 and love it.. only thing negative I’ve notice is when riding on the rain groove pavement the steering tends to wobble pretty bad. Everything I’ve read about it points to the tire design.
Yeah, That’s what a lot of guys are saying. Probably gonna put some knobbier tires on mine at the change for some light dirt.
A good set of radial tires will solve that. I will be doing the same.
Hello from France,enjoyed the review. An excellent feature on the bike that you failed to mention, is the positive stop neutral finder.
Yes sir! Forgot about that!
Excellent, objective review. Thank you.
Great review! I just bought one!
Awesome! You’re gonna love it! It never really gets old.
awesome review. thank you
👍. Hey there, what kind of tires do you have on the W800 on the thumbnail?
Bridgestone AX41 Battle Axe Adventure cross
Nice looking bike….definitely has character
Thank You for the video, it is a nice look at the W800 Cafe. I'm much older and would go for the standard W 800. I'd like for you to do a review on a Royal Enfield INT 650 to get your thoughts on it and compare it to the W 800. The RE Continental 650 is more like the W 800 since both are cafe styled bikes. Ride safe and enjoy the journey.
Thanks for watching the video. Yeah I’d love to get a hold of the Int. 650. Ive only sat on one at the dealership, nice looking bikes for the money. Owners seem generally pleased with them.
I have ridden my W800 Street for one season of riding (7 months in this part of 🇨🇦). I am crazy happy with it and find I have difficulty staying off of it. Suffering greatly from motorcycle withdrawal syndrome as I do every winter.
Great review, Bert's Bike, I agree with all that you said about these excellent roadsters.
@@dougfielding8215 Same here. It’s cold but we still get 50-60 degree days here and there. I try to ride year round. Coldest night I was out was 36 and if the sun isn’t out, heated gloves are needed. 😜
@@dougfielding8215 In Ohio Motorcycle Withdraw Syndrome lasts a long long time.
@@genegoodwin8925 At least 7 months where I'm from. Love my Oxford heated grips though the expensive Kawasaki heated grips control looks more integrated.
Bike is gorgeous.
Thanks!
The battery position is a nightmare. Its impossible to remove the battery without tearing half the bike apart. In my country winter comes early and leaves late. Having an easy to service battery is a must and the battery location has me on edge
I’ve never had to remove it at all but access to the terminals from the top seems ok. The dealer had a SAE cable installed already so I never had to remove it for charging etc.
Beautiful... What a difference over the Indian.
Thanks David. Yeah they’re both different animals, but I ended up loving the w800 that much more.
@@bertsbike I can totally see why. There’s one for sale close to me... good starter lol? Man it’s beautiful!
@@david-johntiemens573 well, I think if you have some past experience and some miles under your belt the w800 would be fine move and if you can get along with the clubman handlebars. You either will love it or hate em. Easy enough swap tho.
@@david-johntiemens573 If you’re a brand new rider I’d probably get a 500/300. With “standard” ergos. There is a “classic” model that is pretty great. There’s a red and blue one.
Nice review there mate. Got me a Z900rs instead of the W800 because it didn’t comes with fuel gauge:)
That’s a sweet bike as well! The Z900 is a sweet bike!
I forgot to add it has a real helmet lock!
and a tool kit
Nicely done. I am considering the Standard version of the W800. You said that you previously owned/ridden a Scout 60. How would you compare the power delivery between the two?
Well, the Scout Sixty had more power for sure. The W800 however is more agile, flickable and is just an overall fun and balanced motorcycle. Personally, I felt way more connected to the W800. The sound/vibes and feel of the engine are its strong points.
Not to take anything away from the Scout... It's a solid "sporty" cruiser. Great in a straight line. Its major draw backs are the suspension and its lack of utility stock.
I'm looking forward to riding one. I have ridden Scouts, Royal Enfields, and Bonnevilles. The W800 is the only bike that I know of among the "retro" classic bikes that still uses the 360 crank. giving it the classic British twin sound and that bevel drive is waaay cool.@@bertsbike
Nice and authentic video. I am using my Bike all tru the year. Unforunately most modern bikes have a big gap between Tire and seat and also a short front fender. Do you have any issues with splashing water, when driving in rain or wet road conditions with your W800? Any issues with rust?
Hey ya! Thanks for watching. I don’t really have too many issues with splashing water. I do try to go around puddles if I can rather than drive through them but I have been in a straight up downpour and various in-climate weather and bike does not show any rusting on the body panels/tank/frame. I do dry off my bike after a rain session. The chain however does show some surface rust which I remove with some steel wool from time to time. I clean my chain semi regularly. I should be better about it tho.
P.S. I noticed some very little specs of surface rust on the pipes where the joints are welded. Those sections aren’t chrome but more of a matte finish. Just chalk it up as patina I guess 🤷
It's also probably unknown to Americans that W800 is originally a Meguro Motorcycle Company which bought rights to use the BSA British motorcycle engine design before WWII. They pretty much got bombed to death during the war and Kawasaki bought them out continuing the original licensed designs. So yes it's a bevel drive engine! A little Japan-Britain history of the bike.
Thanks for that history! I saw that Kawasaki had reissued the Meguro badge in some parts of the world!
Very nice review! I was at the Triumph dealer today looking at the Bonneville T120. Now I am thinking about the W800. I wonder how it stacks up against a Triumph. I think they have a Street Twin and a Bonneville T100 model with a 900cc motor but they are at least $10-10.5K (US) . The W800 is something like $9K but it is air cooled and has quite a bit less power than the Triumph. Decision decisions.
Thanks for watching! Just my 2c below.
They’re all nice bikes! But if your looking for an actual retro vibe and experience. The w800 will be more of that with the air cooled motor, bevel drive and styling. The newer Triumph’s are beautiful bikes as well but are more modernized retro’s IMO. That’s something that’s very apparent when you ride and look at them side by side. As far as power, they all have plenty for everyday riding and interstate. If you really need focused performance the Thruxton is worth a look.
Personally I’m shying away from water cooled bikes… seems like there’s always an issue with coolant systems no matter the manufacture, leaks, drips failing seals. 🤷♂️ Maybe I’m just unlucky?
What did you end up going for?
Im looking at the second hand market between the w800 or the below for a grand or two more
Bonneville
Street twin
Speed twin
Thruxton
Street cup
@@ToonarmY008 Me? Still on the fence. Still riding my 1972 Triumph Tiger 650 5-speed that I bought off CL for $200 last year. Might just leave those modern bikes for dreaming.
Nice review. Getting mine tomorrow, exact same one. Super excited. My only possible disappointment is lack of aftermarket parts. I wanted a little more rumble / noise. Do you think the stock exhaust suffices? Is it noticeably audible?
I’m not a loud exhaust guy. The stock exhaust does sound really good. It’s just not loud. If you need more volume tho, lots of guys just cut out the baffles... There are a few vids lurking around You tube on how to do it. It’s just irreversible.
You can drop in standard bars with the cowl? I always loved hearing the bike whirrrrrrrr at speed.
Hey stranger! Yes, lots of people do the standard bar swap with the cowl. 💪
What's that strap thing you have over the passenger seat? Great review!
Thanks! It’s a molle strap system that fastens to the seat. It Holds the panniers. Check out the Viking Bags Cafe’ Panniers or SW Motech Legend Gear.
Hey Bert - Definitely got my eye on the W800 cafe for my next bike. Denali lights are a good idea. Also like the saddle bag system you have on yours, what are they and would you rate them?
Cool. Yeah They’re the Viking bags cafe’ bags. They’re a good value for the $$ for sure. There’s a video on my channel about them.
These bikes are cool and will be a collectors item..I will be surprised if it lasts to compete with Thai built Triumphs and Enfield interceptors, both which lack the class of this bike. Thing is, you gotta change tires, suspension and mapping...then..I think you are set,
The tires get better once you break them in
That pretty-much applies to a lot of bikes though and front-end is easy to improve with spacers and thicker-oil . Dave NZ
This is a great bike and I would consider buying one if it didn't have tube tyres. I have had a puncture with tube tyres and I had to call out
my breakdown service and have it taken to a garage. I couldn't carry all the stuff you need to change tube at the roadside. I would buy a Moto Guzzi Stone or a Triumph Speed Twin because of this, even though I would rather have a W800. I am not prepared to replace the standard wheels with tubeless wire wheels because they are VERY expensive.
Yeah, it is a worry of mine on a long trip. I do prefer tube tiers over cast when they’re inflated lol. What If you just bought regular cast wheels?
Put a tubeless-kit on standard-wheels , cheap Dave NZ
Hi! I don't know what to do..I have a HD Springer but I ve been in love with the w800 for a long time..the problem is that I can't afford to have 2 bike in my garage... what would you recommend me? Help me please! Greetings from Spain
Those are just two different bikes. I’d say go with whichever you feel more comfortable on and drawn to regardless of specs. If you’re a casual biker you can tolerate a lot. But if you ride any distance at all the small things start adding up. It was hard to leave my Indian scout for the W. But honestly the W is just a great all a-rounder. I got the cafe, but most people will want to change out the bars or just get the standard version. Don’t get me wrong, I loved my scout and may add another one day but I’ve decided to keep the W for the long haul.
The Springer old boy is the motorcycle that I always wanted to own...I have realized that I want to try new things.. something different..and I love cafes racers but I'm afreid of selling my HD and regret it afterwards...thanks dude! If finally buy the w800 I will let you know! Greetings from Spain
@@josepgarciahidalgo9477 Yea, if it were me I’d probably keep the Harley just cause and get the w800. If I had to have only one and didn’t have the Harley, I’d get the w800. But If I already owned the Harley I’d just hang on to it. Just my 2c. Sounds like it’s the bike that you love.
I adore this bike...I am now thinking of trading my w650 for one...but the kicker is the lack of kick-starter...BUT I have found a kit to retro-fit one. !
I think the 650 is better . Dave NZ
I was planning to get regular version but now I'm thinking about cafe :) that handlebar looks like a airplane yoke...
Yeah they’re both great choices. Standard in the US has the center stand and some more chrome on the fenders. Cafe has the cowl and clubman bars. Lots of guys just order some handlebars and take off the cowl to change it up here and there to get the standard ergos. You’ll love it either way. The forward lean IMO is an acquired taste. One that I particularly love.
@@bertsbike yeah, but if one want to take the club bars off why not to get just street version :) and get free centerstand
@@robsonenduro3316 cause you get the bad A cowl. 😎. The center stand is a far cheaper add on. Either way it’ll be fine. It’s all a sum of parts tho right. Ergos/color/look/feel etc.
Beautiful bike..cool video 💪
Great bike, bought one about 8 months ago....what is the link for the handlebar risers? Did fitment of these require any new cables etc that you are aware of ?? Great review btw 👍
Hey there. Thanks for watching! I did not put risers on my bars. There are guys on the w800 FB who have switched out the clubman to standard bars with no problem. Some have done risers also... Like anything YMMV. My cables seem to be pretty snug but I think there’s enough play for some rise.
Very through review, nicely done!
Thank You!
Are you a dispatcher? I noticed the thin gold line. I work for Metro.
Wow! That front suspension is doing an awful lot of bouncing up and down on what appears to be a very smooth road. Is that part of the "character" of this bike, or am I missing something?
It’s bouncy and firm. Nothing to write home about. I always roll my eyes when companies put run of the mill suspension on a modern vintage bike because it’s “period correct”. 🤣
Does it wobble at 75 mph with those tires? What tires are those?
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
You have to modify the bike or stand to get it to fit, I got a separate paddock wheel stand for it four chain maintenance
Thanks! Good to know!
Would a tall person 6’3 feel comfortable on this bike? How tall are you. Nice review.
I’m 6’1”. Just depends if you like the lean forward… I think you’d probably want to swap the bars… or put some risers on.
love w800 but kawasaki here not import this model anymore. damn. the one here only old model with drum brake rear.
Well, apparently lots of people still love the W650 and say that it’s “more fun” than the 800… I’d love to test ride it and find out. Thanks for watching!
Hi Bert, the photo on your site before watching shows nobby tires on the w800. Can you tell me what they are? They look great and want to put on my w800 cafe. Thanks for the review
Thanks for watching! They are Bridgestone Battleaxe AX41 I believe
May I ask what make panniers you are using? Also are you using panniers rails. Thank you in advance
Yes, they’re the Viking bags cafe racer set.. the ones I have are the medium size. Also SW more challenging makes a set as well that are visually similar but have certain attachments options.
@@bertsbike thank you so much.
Didn’t like mine thought it was a terrible bike. And getting to the battery 😂😂.
And I did start to see rust and I do agree the rear end around the drive chain is to cluttered
I didn’t really have a problem getting to the battery to get the charger tails installed. I’m pretty sure I just went through the seat area. Now removing it, I think you have to go through the side cover.
Other than what you mentioned, why do you think it was a terrible bike? Performance, power, weight?
@@bertsbike the type of bike it’s supposed to be a classic cafe racer you could get a battery out of a bike easier than that 70 years ago the whole bike is just a mish mash , concentrated on looks only. I think they’d sell a lot more if it was any good it took me ages to find a dealer that was interested in taking mine in px there’s a lot of second hand ones available here in U.K. very cheap.
@@neilfields5914 I feel like that’s an “issue” with most new bikes. Things are very tight and most people that just want to ride (me included) and don’t wanna mess with it. I didn’t even want to clean the chain on my CB 1100 and it had a center-stand and single side exhaust. My CB300R you had to lift the tank to get to the battery... dumb. With that said The only bike I’ve had concerning issues with was my Indian Scout. Even tho I loved that bike, Those little quirks eventually outweighed my fondness of it. Since I ride a lot those issues are more apparent than just the casual recreational rider.
Great review. How does the bike feel on the highway for 100 miles or so?
Thanks! I've taken it on long trips of 200+ mile runs of mixed back roads and some highway loaded down. It seems to handle it well and feels solid. The bike can do over 100 mph but I would keep the bike at about 75mph and pass at 85 90. The leaned over position is what would fatigue most riders on a long trip but at higher speed the wind actually holds you up. It will more than do the job but if you're doing lots of highway(consistently 75mph+)... I tend to prefer cruiser style motos and bigger displacement engines.
Great bike and review
Hey thanks! And thanks for watching!
I like the idea of the bike, but I want more power than it can give.
I thought I may need more as well, but I think it has more than adequate power for the type of bike that it is.
You could liberate another 10hp pretty-cheap , it's the riding-experience that differs from any other retro . Dave NZ
Those bikes passing you on the double yellow. LOL! How slow were you riding?
Lol... I love how that part of the video gets so much attention. Pretty sure the speed limit is 40 there. They just wanted to haul A I guess.
thinking of getting the same bike, whats your height mate?
Cool. I’m 6’1”
Did you ever add any additional lights as mentioned?
Thanks for watching. No I never did.
Are u still in love with the bike? :) I will replace soon my little honda with a new w800, oder a moto guzzi v7. I can´t decide yet (guzzi has kardan instead of chain) but i like the w800 a bit more. Are there any "strange problems" or are this a "japanese well built bike" ?
I don't have mine anymore. I sold it regrettably. No Issues, just a solid bike through and through. I have ridden an older V7 racer and it was very fun as well. Overall the W800 if one of the best bikes I've ever owned and ridden.
@@bertsbike thanks for your reply! I have already sat on a new w800 und loved it. I try to find a cafe edition, because i like the lamp mask design. Also the v7 Guzzi have actually the "Corsa Edition", which have an old school race lamp mask ;) keep up u good video work, greetings from Germany.
@@user-aerodelax Cheers! Ride safe!
can't decide this or Royal En continental. RE is cheaper but do like W800 engine.hmmm
A lot of dealers have discounted 2019’s as low as $7000 at the moment. That puts the price in a more competitive spot to the RE. If you can’t get a good deal, the RE is a very good value. IMO the W800 is worth it at even full price.
At 6:00 mark, what's that whining sound? Is that the bevel drive? Any way to reduce or eliminate it without changing to a louder exhaust?
Yeah, most bikes I’ve had have a higher pitched something going on. Honestly videos don’t ever do the exhaust any justice. They seem to accent all the treble.
It’s got a low thrumming sound that videos don’t seem to reproduce well. You don’t notice that high pitched stuff in real life.
Have you had an issue scuffing up your right side black cover (I guess for the crankcase or trans) right next to the rear brake pedal? I noticed this after about 100 miles on mine. It also gets hot, and if you rest your foot against it, it can melt your shoe.
Actually yes. There’s always a mark there when I wash it, but comes off pretty easily, especially if you have some bug remover or something. Actually a problem I’ve had on all the bikes I’ve owned. Lol
@@bertsbike I feel a little better now. My concern is it leaving a permanent mark or having the paint chip. Guess Ill just be careful
@@defaultdaniel Yeah, it’s just part of riding it I guess... Got a paint chip in my tank as well. Don’t know how that happened. I take great care of my bikes but things like that you can’t really help. I just chalk it up as “patina”. Got some more patina on my 539mi thrip I took last weekend. 😜
Great vid!
Hi Bert I wonder if you could help me, im trying to remove the battery, not only does it bear no resemblance to the pre 2019 w800, I cant get a workshop manual anywhere, maybe you've had some luck.
Hey there. So if you have a 2019 and up, you can access the battery through the seat. You have to remove the plate and move the ecu aside. If your trying to remove the battery you have to do the step above as well as remove the side cover, and remove the battery holder bolts, starter relay and the battery holder.
All this is on P.124 of your owners manual that came with the bike.
So when did café racers sprout trials universal tyres? It's just a mind f#@k by people who are to young to have ever seen a genuine café racer.
Haha. Yeah, they’re adventure bike tires… I love the look personally. Believe it or not they’re night and day grip wise vs the stock tires. I’ve seen beefy tires on street bikes all over the place. TKC80’s have been slapped on many bmw and honda cafe builds. Recently I’ve seen a custom 22’ Indian chief with knobbies. 😂What ever floats yer boat I guess.