@@josedieguez8754 Thanks! There's a simple formula to keep riding as long as possible: Stay healthy and be very careful on the road. Twenty years ago, I met a 77-yr old American on a Suzuki Bandit 1200 without a fairing who had ridden solo from Garmisch, Germany to Cadiz, Spain -- some 2500 kms. I remember he had a limp and looked tired but apparently glad to be able to still ride that far. Took him many days to make the trip, he said, stopping frequently to rest. It was a brief encounter but I remember him well because I admired his spunk for traveling solo at THAT age! 🛵🌞
This video was the reason I pick’d up w800. Thanks for the honest review and very pleased on my new w800 street. Everything you said about the bike is true.
I bought the W800 Street (Canada) and am insanely happy with it! Ticked all the boxes for me. If this Classic model was available then, I may have bought it. Beautiful bike with fantastic fit and finish. I know how he feels when he says "it feels like home" and I'm riding a motorcycle and it feels like a motorcycle.
Great review! Thank you so much for posting it. Your comments about the authentic feel of this bike are spot on. For old guys like me who rode bikes like this in the 70's it is awesome. I rode the cafe version and loved the bike but not the riding position. So I'm looking forward to riding this standard version. I've seen prices on the cafe version down to less than $7,000 here in Virginia and with the economy down right now I'm sure you can pick up one of these standard W800's for perhaps just a little more than that.
Not sure what part of Virginia you are in but I'm in central Pennsylvania and there are several dealers offering the café version for $5800-6000 brand new. So if you're interested look them up on cycletrader and make a deal with someone local to you.
I've had a 2015 W800 for a couple of years now. Bombproof. You won't be disappointed! It'll do 150kph (93mph) without too much effort. There's a video on UA-cam of someone in Germany (on the autobahn) maxing it out at 180kph!
@@dermur68 that's fantastic. I live in a super rural area surrounded by only highways, so I gotta have something that can handle those speeds, but is still pretty beginner friendly
@@greyy357 You won't be disappointed. That's exactly what this bike is. I'm only riding for about two years on an A2 license (limits your power to 35kW). I started on a 250cc but that proved a little lightweight on motorways/highways with crosswinds, trucks, etc. I got the W800 and it's like a train. I feel much more confident on it with the extra weight (about 215Kg). Beautiful build quality and as soon as I get the chance, I'm sure it'll hit 163kph (100mph) easily enough. Acceleration is civilised while being plenty to get you away from any traffic when the lights go green. And is genuinely more authentic than the "Triumphs" if you care about that sort of thing. I look at other bikes every now and then, but can't ever see myself getting rid of the W800. I just love it too much... :) Also, the engine was very thoughtfully designed for ease-of-maintenance too if you're ever considering doing your own wrenching. Centre stand is a big bonus for chain oiling.
@@javierquirozgarcia3198 I never have felt any objectional heat from that great engine (Not sure if I've ever really felt heat from the engine when riding or stopped at stop signs).
Love the classics. If and when I get more room and more funds there will be an army of classics in the garage and the KZ400 is on the map. I love older smaller machines like it, my current CX500C. Something about just going for a ride on a real machine with nothing to get in the way.
I was drooling over this bike as forbidden fruit for years until it came here, then I drooled on it some more at the motorcycle show. It’s more authentic retro British than any current Triumph, but for the money the Street Twin and Bonneville T100 are much higher performing; it’s hardly comparable. The W800 is more on par with the Royal Enfield 650, but for $3400 more 😱. You buy this one because you want THIS one, to be different, just cruise, look good and enjoy. Everyone will think it’s a Triumph or maybe an old BSA, but will be shocked to learn it’s Japanese and new. Very few will remember the old W1.
The build quality, finish and thought that went into engineering an easy to maintain bike is worth the extra $$$. Checking valve clearances is a cinch. Kawasaki originally licensed BSA A7 to build the W1 so it bears more than a passing resemblence to a BSA.
dermur68 True! It was Meguro who was licensed to build the BSA A7 for Japan and they were acquired by Kawasaki in 1964. The W1 arrived in 1965 for Japan and 1966 for the rest of the world I believe.
I got this bike in late March, as soon as it came out. I love everything about it. Except the stock tires which caused me to wobble on rain grooves here in New York City. I got those replaced and it is now an ideal in-town bikes. People keep stopping me and asking how old the bike is. This review is spot on.
@@ernestfloyd2930 I had sort of a hard time finding tires that fit the specs, and I couldn't find a matching set, believe it not. So, I got the Continental Road Attack 3 for the rear and Continental Trail Attack 3 for the front. The combination so far seems fantastic, but I've only just started using them.
@@luvsallbikes279 Not quite yet. I'm still working on convincing the Mrs. to hop on the back. My other bike (Yamaha V Star 650 Custom) has a back rest so we've tended to use that one more. But I'll get her on this one soon!
Thank you for this review. Currently I am riding a BMW1200GSA. Perfect bike to ride in the Alps in Austria,Italy and France but too large for Dutch road to be honest. Therefore my interest in the Kawa.
I truly wish to at some point be able to hit those roads. My choice would be a Moto Guzzi V7III for sure. I love the Kawi but it a bit lazy vs the Goose to hit roads like that.
I love your enthusiasm, but as an older rider I lived , owned and rode the later 60s bikes. Been riding since 1965. Bought my first bike in 1968 and I have wonderful memories. But like phones with chords on the wall with rotary dials I am not sure I want to go back. Hahaha. But I really am glad you and others get to experience these Retro machines. Keep up with your videos I really appreciate them and brings back memories.
You're just going back to the good parts. No more bad brakes, tickling the carbs to start, kicking it, rough warm ups, constant tuning, leaks, and so on.
Rode this bike a few weeks ago at HOK Demo days in OKC. Loved this bike the best of the 3 models I rode. My son in law liked it the best as well. Might consider trading my VERSYS 650 for this. Hedgehog, you sound a lot like a guy I met at the 2021 GOAT Ride recently. He was on a KTM, Matt was his name.
Nice review. The price point on these bikes reflects the fact that the W800 is built in Japan. Maintenance on these bikes is easy and straight forward. If I did not own a W650, a W800 would be in the garage. The one good feature you like many other reviewers fail to mention on W800 reviews, is the positive stop neutral finder, good when riding in heavy stop start traffic. At 73 years old when riding my W650, it just reminds me of riding in the sixties early seventies. I think all aircooled bikes of high capacity have their days numbered with ever increasing emission limits. If people are thinking of buying one in the near future, bite the bullet now to avoid disapointment.
Love the bike...I worried a wee bit about the tube tires but have decided to carry a tube of 'Slime' tube sealant and lots of C02...instead of taping the inside of rims and making them tubeless. I may remove the db baffle later...At 79 years I find the W800 perfect for riding around the back roads. I bought a 2020 Katana a few years ago but find that I'm drawn to my 2022 W800...
I'm interested in this style of bike and have been looking at everything in it's class, such as the Triumphs, Moto Guzzi V7, Royal Enfield INT650, etc. Since you mentioned having a V7, did you also ride a W800 before you chose? Just curious what helped you decide on the V7.
@@scotteger6271 Sat on the cafe version of the W800. Didn't ride one though. I really, really like the W800. Once I saw a V7 in person and rode it, it stole my heart. Looked at a lot of bikes but there is a lot too love in my weird little V7. Actually went in too get a great deal on a leftover V9, which after much research I thought was the bike for me. After riding the V7 and the V9 back to back the V7 just felt more together and connected to the road. V9 is great and more powerful but didn't seem to have the magic of the V7. Lots of cool aftermarket stuff available for the V7 if you're into it. All that said, I do plan on trying to ride a W800 at some point. I will add that I greatly prefer the local Guzzi dealer to the local Kaw dealers.
Aproud1 Good point! Quality of your local dealership and workshop services matter when it comes down to it. Back in the days I owned a Stornello 125 cc, but felt very much on my own servicing it, the nearest dealership being 300 km away.
I've a 2001 W650 and a 2017 Honda CB1100EX. I'm a big fan of the bikes from the 60'-70's and love them both like RK. Want to replace the W650, which is showing it's age. Looked at Triumph's T-100 but am so comfortable with the W650, the W800 wins out. So glad Kawasaki returned the the retro W's to U.S. RK has sold me. Only will miss the kick starter. on the W650.
Btw, on that buttery clutch, it actually is an assist/slip clutch. Kawasaki tossed some good modern tech at this bike. It also has ABS like you mentioned and a great looking LED headlamp. I’m very tempted regardless of the $9199 price tag.
@@pjeng1 I've been riding many years and had some fast bikes and touring bikes but I love this bike. Personality and good looks. A used Rebel 500 is probably a better knock around beginner's bike but yah it's easy to ride.
It's pricier than the Indian or Taiwan/ Indonesian bikes because of the quality materials, labor, attention to detail and overall higher production cost in Japan but it is worth every penny in my opinion.
Lovely bike the Classic. I have the Café version & prefer the clubman bars for the look, style & most importantly the extra weight on the front. I don’t like a light front end. Cracking, characterful engines with top notch gearboxes.
I like the motorcycle too. The angle of the instruments causes the sun to reflect and blind you at certain times of day. I've made a plastic template with small arcing slots to help. I find this a serious safety flaw. Did you also notice that?
The W800 engine is built like the old BSA and Triumphs of the 50's, 60's. Both pistons rise and fall together, unlike the newer twins of Royal Enfield and the new Triumphs. This is why you feel the buzzing, or vibration. I used to wonder why Kawasaki called it the "W" even back when it was a W650 and still wondered after it was enlarged to an 800, Then one day it dawned on me. If you picture the crankshaft with both pistons rising and falling together, it looks like a "W". Thus Kawasaki named the bike the W after the looks of the crankshaft. Just thought I'd share.
no, its just because in the 60's they bougth a license from bsa for a race twin...as kawi was only building 2 stroke at the time. the bike was named W because there frame series were 'numbered' with letters back then. so when they brang it back it got its old name back too
Best review on this bike I've seen. I will say it sounds a little like a sewing machine compared to the Enfield's and Triumph's. The high idle is what really sounds strange to me. Again great review.
The idle is fast on cold startup and slows upon warm up. The idle is also easily adjustable. Mine was set a little fast from the factory. Probably for break in. The W800 has 360 crank just like the British bikes of the 60s. The Enfield and Triumphs have 270 degree cranks so they don't sound as authentic. The W has a lovely sound all be it on the quiet side. Some have removed the DB killer baffles at the end of the muffler to make them a little louder but they do sound nice. In stock form you don't here much of the exhaust from the seat but from behind and for people on the street they sound really good.
Could you please compare with Triumph street twin??? Also could you please mention miles per gallon, Cruising speed and lowest speed you could ride at the top gear.
I own a 2018 W800, and agree with your review, this is a beautiful bike, even 'no neck' guy with Harley Davidson logo on his shirt enquired politely about this bike. Only thing is that it would benefit from being a 6 gear bike, as could handle it easily for highway cruising. Still very glad I own it. Steve (Australia)
The gears are spread quite far apart and the motor has bags of torque so I don't think a sixth gear is needed. Mine is turning 4200rpm at 120kph (75mph}. 2800rpm at 80kph (50mph). I can run 50kph in 5th and roll on to highway speed easily without shifting. I can also pull away from a stop without even touching the throttle. The engine is not stressed at all at highway speed.
I bought my W-800 a month ago and it is better than you describe. The other contender I was looking at was the Yamaha Bolt, which I took your advice to pass over. Couldn't agree more that the W checks off so many boxes! (see 24:49)
I've possibly never been more torn on any decision ever. I am drooling for this bike after this pretty glowing review, but...the Guzzi V7 III also has me equally drooling (like I've just come from a double root canal). I live in Switzerland and have mountain passes, beautiful lazy country roads, and twisties galore. I also want to do some longer rides, even touring. V7 or W800?
V7 has the handling and fuel advantage for sure. And more character if you like the feeling of being on a machine. The W800 will be less maintenance heavy and a bit lazy. I still lean towards a V7
I wish somebody would manufacture performance aftermarket parts for this bike, so I could soup it up like I could do with a 1960's Bonneville. I spent a lot of time on a 1960's Bonneville that was modified and was pumping out 60 horsepower and got the weight down to 340 lbs. That bike would boogie! This bike makes about 45 horsepower and weighs 5oo lbs. The platform on this Kawasaki would be great for performance upgrades to resemble a real hot rodded Triumph, b/c it's got a 360 crank and an undersquare motor. But I see precious few performance parts available for the W800 other than pipes.
@@mikehurley5052 It has a little throb between ~3300 and 3800rpm. I have a hard time calling it vibration. I had a 1972 Honda CB350 that would vibrate your feet of the foot pegs and put your whole arms to sleep. Now that was vibration. The W has just enough vibe to let you know your on a a real motorcycle.
They are rated at 47hp in Europe to meet A2 requirements but here in North America they are rated at 51hp. I've seen specs from Indonesia or some other Asian country where they claim 52hp. The Euro rating is given at 6000rpm but I think the higher rating is at 6500rpm. I think Kawasaki is skirting the Euro regs with creative rating methods. Mine feels like more than 47hp once you pass 4000rpm.
Rabid I get a hint of a wonderful sound from this bike like the 70's Honda and Suzuki 4 cylinders. Did you get that impression as well? Also, how does this compare to the T100 and V7iii as retro bikes?
Perhaps you could make a video about your vlog gear. How you mount your camera to the helmet, and how you wire it up for sound. I think many of us would be interested.
@@RabidHedgehog I am looking forward to it! By the way, back in 2017 when I was looking for a new bike, I heard about the Kawasaki W800 being sold in Europe, and not in the US. I would have bought it in a heartbeat. Instead, I bought a Suzuki SV650. I didn't regret it though.
This bike would sell better if they had released the black w800 street version that they did overseas. Looks so much better. This bike has that unique timing gear instead of chain as well which is not gonna change much riding wise but still pretty neat for gearheads.
I own the Street version (available in Canada) and absolutely love it, and think it's a tough looking yet handsome bike. The Classic is beautiful mind you. I find the W800 has lots of low end torque and decent acceleration when you open it up. It's the perfect 60s style Brit bike with modern ABS, fuel injection, brakes and reliability. The ride even gets better as it breaks in. I agree, they should have started out in the States with the Street, then the Classic when it came out. Some don't like the satin paint (which I think accentuates the chrome pipes, bevel drive shaft and polished aluminum rims). As a gear head, the bevel drive is the icing on the cake!
@@dougfielding8215 Being a longs stroke under stressed low compression engine and no timing chain they will do 100,000 miles with only proper routine maintenance. I've watched videos of a few Ws with 100,000 to 150,000 trouble free kilometers on the clock. No timing chain to worry about is big bonus.
tremendous video, congratulations, I would like to buy that motorcycle here in Puerto Rico, but it have a air cooled engine and here is a tropical hot island, I don't know if it could affect the engine performance.
In Oklahoma it gets very very hot, we don't have the humidity levels y'all do. But we can reach 113F so add in the heat off of the pavement we're usually 140s or so in motion and it does not seem to bother it. The only thing recommended at that point would be to change oil more frequently.
I can tell you as an EX owner who has ridden the W800. Much lighter of course, weirdly similar vibrations higher up the rev range but the EX will be going faster at those same revs so you can avoid them much easier or even altogether. The W is sprung lighter as it has to cope with less weight so you can get a softer ride on it if that’s your thing. I’d have both!
Are you sure? I think all the current Bonneville’s have a slip assist clutch. But yes it’s interesting how they work. Some people don’t like them because the clutch lever feel is different, but it allows effortless clutchless upshifting, and rev-match downshifting becomes a breeze. It’s difficult to explain, but when you experience it yourself and play around with the shifter and clutch engagement, especially downshifting, you get it.
The W800 has amazing engine braking. The slipper clutch helps prevent locking up the rear wheel when down shifting aggressively. The assist portion means the clutch springs can be lighter giving a nice light clutch pull.
Now you're talking like an old man😀...or like me😬...I have about 15 older bikes...including a 78cx 500 (heard u mention)...id love to take a spin on a w800!
Depending on what you want to carry but a decent all around one is this in the 24L www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cortech-super-20-tail-bag?gclid=CjwKCAjwp9qZBhBkEiwAsYFsb3dm1YlRLHohYzNiO8oWlsT0bX7ohsj_ROhUIHh4MMI6QrsxkIKgWRoCBQMQAvD_BwE
As nice as the Z900s are, they are way more bike than I need. The W800 fits most of my needs and I love the loping low end torque of the long stroke 360 degree crank engine on the W. It is just relaxing to drive and you don't feel any need to ring its neck. It is not nearly as fast as a Z900 but int eh 4000-6000rpm range it may surprise you.
I see that everyone else beat you when the light turned green which means you caught the next red light, too. Can't even keep up with a Kia. Great bike. How about a review of that CX500 and why wasn't that sufficient to satisfy your biking needs? I've got a chance for a 1982 GL500 Silverwing for $ 1,400 on my local Craig's List. I've checked out other GL500's and keep getting all sorts of positive and negative reviews to the point that I haven't bought one yet.
At 5:40 you are coming to a stop on top of oil drops from cars. Sooner or later you will slip and fall on that mess. Rain makes it much more slippery. Moved right so your wheels are where the right pair of tires on a car ride and you will have much cleaner pavement under your tires.
After spending a few years on a '76 Yamaha 650 , I had enough of the buzzy vibration, electrical headaches, lousy brakes, constant chain adjustments etc. Moved on to an 1980 XS 850 triple..smooth as glass, powerful and completely reliable..never looked back... I understand the appeal but having been there, I don't care to go backwards for a main bike...maybe for occasional outings definitely not for long distances...maybe that's the point...hmmm...maybe I do need one!?!?
I you want a no thrills ADV overland bike,check out the MRS Oficina one on Google...KX450 forks and modified swingarm...no water-cooling to worry about,and plenty space for a 2nd tank below the battery!
Hi Rabid, since you rode both, which would you get the W800 or the Moto Guzzi V7? As I am really torn between the two. They both look great and are both made in their respective factories inJapan and Italy
@@ivanbaldacchino6339 me either... I can pretty much tell you that I'm going to end up with the Kawasaki... The overall cost of ownership is far cheaper than a Moto Guzzi especially where I'm working in the United States. There's a relative lack of dealerships so service and parts becomes a problem. I've always wanted to own an Italian bike ! But I have to pick between the practicality and reliability of a Japanese bike or the coolness and exclusivity of an Italian bike...
Good call on the Kawasaki.. its a properly well built and engineered bike. your reasoning and concerns are part of why I haven t decided yet because they are also my concerns.... deep down I really want the Guzzi but I always stop and re think it over and over again....besides not every mechanic can work on a Guzzi. most of them will mess it up more instead of fixing it
@papimiami1938.... I ended up getting the Moto Guzzi v7 850 special with blue and brown seat. I couldn't resist the looks and the shaft drive and the sound of the v engine. It is a more expensive bike than the W800, but its just as well made.
realy love the looks but i have heard that there is a bad engine vibration at mid to high revs which is a shame as i was thinking of this as my first bike vs RE Interceptor orTriupmh Street Triple
@@RabidHedgehog I agree with you. It doesn't detract from the ride and lets you know you're riding a motorcycle (and your wife or girlfriend may love it). You can feel a little vibe but the bike has real smooth power delivery 👌
I get a little vibration in the pegs at and around 3500rpm that has gotten better now that the bike is broken in. From 4000rpm to 7000rpm redline I find mine to be smooth as glass. And at 3200rpm and below it has no vibration. Slow back road cruising at 50 to 55mph are very smooth and relaxing.
The 2019 and newer W800 bikes have a larger front disc (320mm vs 300mm) than earlier models and have a rear disc brake (270mm) instead of a drum. I find my 2022 stops very well. Way better than my 1982 Virago did. The Virago would brake fade like crazy if you tried stopping in a hurry at highway speed.
Great video! Would this bike be too tall for me? I'm 5'4". I know I could get a Yamaha Bolt due to the low seat height, but I really love the aesthetics of the W800.
Nothing wrong with a 5-speed. You want no-frills? Come visit me and throw your leg over my 1986 Yamaha SRX600. Kick-start only. Air-cooled. Fun, fun, fun. I always enjoy your reviews. You take a bike for what it was intended and you seem to smile and enjoy many of them. And your honest about what could be improved. Personally, I'd like regular spoke wheels and tubeless tires. Wider selection.
I'm 67 and when I take out my W800 for a ride I feel 17 again. It's my time machine.
Man ! You’re still riding at 67 ? God bless you !
@@josedieguez8754 Thanks! There's a simple formula to keep riding as long as possible: Stay healthy and be very careful on the road. Twenty years ago, I met a 77-yr old American on a Suzuki Bandit 1200 without a fairing who had ridden solo from Garmisch, Germany to Cadiz, Spain -- some 2500 kms. I remember he had a limp and looked tired but apparently glad to be able to still ride that far. Took him many days to make the trip, he said, stopping frequently to rest. It was a brief encounter but I remember him well because I admired his spunk for traveling solo at THAT age! 🛵🌞
Im 64, and Im liking what Im seeing... Maybe I can pickup a good used one in a couple of years.
I know that feeling. I am 58 and ‘become’ 14 all over again when I get on my motorcycle. Two wheels move the soul they say…..
@@josedieguez8754 67 is not old, I'm a 67 New Zealander still riding, I recently purchased a W800 'Black Edition'.
I am 73 - bought W800 Cafe 2 years ago (in Poland), put on it 3 500 km, happy as happy can be!
This bike is even more beautiful in person.
Ride modes? We don't need no stinkin' ride modes!
I'm old school, no rider modes, no ABS, no traction control. NOTHING. Just a 150Hp Aprilia mated to 2 wheels made of rubber.
Ride mode ? How about ‘full speed ahead’
This bike is so beautiful, just an enjoyable smooth ride. Not a racer, just a relaxing easy ride. I'm picking one up as soon as I can.
This video was the reason I pick’d up w800. Thanks for the honest review and very pleased on my new w800 street. Everything you said about the bike is true.
I totally want one still and one day.
I bought the W800 Street (Canada) and am insanely happy with it! Ticked all the boxes for me. If this Classic model was available then, I may have bought it. Beautiful bike with fantastic fit and finish. I know how he feels when he says "it feels like home" and I'm riding a motorcycle and it feels like a motorcycle.
Man, I love the look of this bike. Best looking retro and the reliability as its Japanese. 10/10. Could be buying this instead of the Guzzi V7
No thrills nothing on it....exactly what I've been looking for. Elegant simplicity at it's finest.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Best retro motorcycle series! Street, Cafe and standard. These were before the Hinckley Bonnevilles... Absolutely stunning these W800s.
Bonneville came out 2001, W800 came out 2011, so how can it be before?
@@jibjab351 w650 came in 1999
i have w800 street edition i love it. ride fun
Great review! Thank you so much for posting it. Your comments about the authentic feel of this bike are spot on. For old guys like me who rode bikes like this in the 70's it is awesome. I rode the cafe version and loved the bike but not the riding position. So I'm looking forward to riding this standard version. I've seen prices on the cafe version down to less than $7,000 here in Virginia and with the economy down right now I'm sure you can pick up one of these standard W800's for perhaps just a little more than that.
Not sure what part of Virginia you are in but I'm in central Pennsylvania and there are several dealers offering the café version for $5800-6000 brand new. So if you're interested look them up on cycletrader and make a deal with someone local to you.
@@scotteger6271 Thanks Scott! I'll do that.
Great seeing more videos from you, keep them coming bro!
I'm planning on getting this for my first motorcycle. thank you for showing us this thing at highway speed!
I've had a 2015 W800 for a couple of years now. Bombproof. You won't be disappointed! It'll do 150kph (93mph) without too much effort. There's a video on UA-cam of someone in Germany (on the autobahn) maxing it out at 180kph!
@@dermur68 that's fantastic. I live in a super rural area surrounded by only highways, so I gotta have something that can handle those speeds, but is still pretty beginner friendly
@@greyy357 You won't be disappointed. That's exactly what this bike is. I'm only riding for about two years on an A2 license (limits your power to 35kW). I started on a 250cc but that proved a little lightweight on motorways/highways with crosswinds, trucks, etc. I got the W800 and it's like a train. I feel much more confident on it with the extra weight (about 215Kg). Beautiful build quality and as soon as I get the chance, I'm sure it'll hit 163kph (100mph) easily enough. Acceleration is civilised while being plenty to get you away from any traffic when the lights go green. And is genuinely more authentic than the "Triumphs" if you care about that sort of thing. I look at other bikes every now and then, but can't ever see myself getting rid of the W800. I just love it too much... :)
Also, the engine was very thoughtfully designed for ease-of-maintenance too if you're ever considering doing your own wrenching. Centre stand is a big bonus for chain oiling.
@@dermur68 I agree with your Triumph comment, the current Triumph company has nothing to do with the Triumphs of the '60s and older.
@@javierquirozgarcia3198 I never have felt any objectional heat from that great engine (Not sure if I've ever really felt heat from the engine when riding or stopped at stop signs).
Thank -you !! Love this!
Absolute beauty
100% the bike I’m looking for. Great review too. In a few months I’ll be driving one around!!
Nice catch, the romanticism you spot about the purpose of the W800 is what made me love this video--didn't skip a second!
I had a 76 kz400 back in 79-81. This bike brings back memories of that. I may have to get one.
Love the classics. If and when I get more room and more funds there will be an army of classics in the garage and the KZ400 is on the map. I love older smaller machines like it, my current CX500C. Something about just going for a ride on a real machine with nothing to get in the way.
I just got mine 3 weeks ago and im loving it!
Ride it safe!
Back to basics biking, no thrills no frills just a sweet relaxed ride. Plus being in contact with the wind & nature whatever it trows at you ;)
Right on!
Completely agree with your assessment of this Retro Cool bike.
Thanks for this review!
I was drooling over this bike as forbidden fruit for years until it came here, then I drooled on it some more at the motorcycle show. It’s more authentic retro British than any current Triumph, but for the money the Street Twin and Bonneville T100 are much higher performing; it’s hardly comparable. The W800 is more on par with the Royal Enfield 650, but for $3400 more 😱. You buy this one because you want THIS one, to be different, just cruise, look good and enjoy. Everyone will think it’s a Triumph or maybe an old BSA, but will be shocked to learn it’s Japanese and new. Very few will remember the old W1.
The build quality, finish and thought that went into engineering an easy to maintain bike is worth the extra $$$. Checking valve clearances is a cinch. Kawasaki originally licensed BSA A7 to build the W1 so it bears more than a passing resemblence to a BSA.
dermur68 True! It was Meguro who was licensed to build the BSA A7 for Japan and they were acquired by Kawasaki in 1964. The W1 arrived in 1965 for Japan and 1966 for the rest of the world I believe.
@@mindspinn311 There is a Meguro bike out there (Google it or UA-cam it)! Just looks like an W800 standard though.
A great review and I'm planning to get one of these next year.
I got this bike in late March, as soon as it came out. I love everything about it. Except the stock tires which caused me to wobble on rain grooves here in New York City. I got those replaced and it is now an ideal in-town bikes. People keep stopping me and asking how old the bike is. This review is spot on.
What tyres did you change to, still have the original tyres on my 2018 w800. About to make a change.
Love when a bike does that. I seriously want one of these to go wit my Cx500 and see which one people believe is the oldest.
@@ernestfloyd2930 I had sort of a hard time finding tires that fit the specs, and I couldn't find a matching set, believe it not. So, I got the Continental Road Attack 3 for the rear and Continental Trail Attack 3 for the front. The combination so far seems fantastic, but I've only just started using them.
Aaron Donovan . Did you ever ride with a passenger yet ? Wondering if it could pull that off . Looks really nice .
@@luvsallbikes279 Not quite yet. I'm still working on convincing the Mrs. to hop on the back. My other bike (Yamaha V Star 650 Custom) has a back rest so we've tended to use that one more. But I'll get her on this one soon!
Thank you for this review. Currently I am riding a BMW1200GSA. Perfect bike to ride in the Alps in Austria,Italy and France but too large for Dutch road to be honest. Therefore my interest in the Kawa.
I truly wish to at some point be able to hit those roads. My choice would be a Moto Guzzi V7III for sure. I love the Kawi but it a bit lazy vs the Goose to hit roads like that.
I love your enthusiasm, but as an older rider I lived , owned and rode the later 60s bikes. Been riding since 1965. Bought my first bike in 1968 and I have wonderful memories. But like phones with chords on the wall with rotary dials I am not sure I want to go back. Hahaha. But I really am glad you and others get to experience these Retro machines. Keep up with your videos I really appreciate them and brings back memories.
You're just going back to the good parts. No more bad brakes, tickling the carbs to start, kicking it, rough warm ups, constant tuning, leaks, and so on.
@@timjohnson1199 Exactly - it's retro but with Kawasaki reliability. Even by Kawasaki's standards, it's pretty bomb proof.
Special Ed , that would be "phones with cords". But I also like old bikes.
Best looking retro bike
2k miles in and I absolutely love mine.
Wish the roads in Sydney were like this!
I have a W800 Cafe. Love it. No regrets.
I just got a 2022. I love it.
Clubman is the original cafe back in the day. I’m that old
Hi great review! Lots of passion. Thanx for sharing. J/Sweden
Thank you for the support!
The old school standard is imo the perfect bike
Rode this bike a few weeks ago at HOK Demo days in OKC. Loved this bike the best of the 3 models I rode. My son in law liked it the best as well. Might consider trading my VERSYS 650 for this.
Hedgehog, you sound a lot like a guy I met at the 2021 GOAT Ride recently. He was on a KTM, Matt was his name.
Nice review. The price point on these bikes reflects the fact that the W800 is built in Japan. Maintenance on these bikes is easy and straight forward. If I did not own a W650, a W800 would be in the garage. The one good feature you like many other reviewers fail to mention on W800 reviews, is the positive stop neutral finder, good when riding in heavy stop start traffic. At 73 years old when riding my W650, it just reminds me of riding in the sixties early seventies. I think all aircooled bikes of high capacity have their days numbered with ever increasing emission limits. If people are thinking of buying one in the near future, bite the bullet now to avoid disapointment.
guy smith , correct. Air-cooling is disappearing, followed by gas engines.
Sweet looking bike, and good review, thank you!
Love the bike...I worried a wee bit about the tube tires but have decided to carry a tube of 'Slime' tube sealant and lots of C02...instead of taping the inside of rims and making them tubeless. I may remove the db baffle later...At 79 years I find the W800 perfect for riding around the back roads. I bought a 2020 Katana a few years ago but find that I'm drawn to my 2022 W800...
Love mine. Great bike.
As always, nice review. Really love the looks of this bike but love my V7iii just a little more. Stay safe out there.
I'm interested in this style of bike and have been looking at everything in it's class, such as the Triumphs, Moto Guzzi V7, Royal Enfield INT650, etc. Since you mentioned having a V7, did you also ride a W800 before you chose? Just curious what helped you decide on the V7.
@@scotteger6271 Sat on the cafe version of the W800. Didn't ride one though. I really, really like the W800. Once I saw a V7 in person and rode it, it stole my heart. Looked at a lot of bikes but there is a lot too love in my weird little V7. Actually went in too get a great deal on a leftover V9, which after much research I thought was the bike for me. After riding the V7 and the V9 back to back the V7 just felt more together and connected to the road. V9 is great and more powerful but didn't seem to have the magic of the V7. Lots of cool aftermarket stuff available for the V7 if you're into it.
All that said, I do plan on trying to ride a W800 at some point. I will add that I greatly prefer the local Guzzi dealer to the local Kaw dealers.
Aproud1 Good point! Quality of your local dealership and workshop services matter when it comes down to it. Back in the days I owned a Stornello 125 cc, but felt very much on my own servicing it, the nearest dealership being 300 km away.
You make very good videos!
Thank you.
Thanks for the support.
I've a 2001 W650 and a 2017 Honda CB1100EX. I'm a big fan of the bikes from the 60'-70's and love them both like RK. Want to replace the W650, which is showing it's age. Looked at Triumph's T-100 but am so comfortable with the W650, the W800 wins out. So glad Kawasaki returned the the retro W's to U.S. RK has sold me. Only will miss the kick starter. on the W650.
Nice review.
I wonder what the bike looks like....?
Btw, on that buttery clutch, it actually is an assist/slip clutch. Kawasaki tossed some good modern tech at this bike. It also has ABS like you mentioned and a great looking LED headlamp. I’m very tempted regardless of the $9199 price tag.
This is a great but expensive beginner's bike.
@@pjeng1 I've been riding many years and had some fast bikes and touring bikes but I love this bike. Personality and good looks. A used Rebel 500 is probably a better knock around beginner's bike but yah it's easy to ride.
It's pricier than the Indian or Taiwan/ Indonesian bikes because of the quality materials, labor, attention to detail and overall higher production cost in Japan but it is worth every penny in my opinion.
Wait wait wait, I wanna go too!
I'm highly considering trading in my Vulcan 900 classic for this bike. my neighbor just got one and I sat on it & instantly fell in love.
I would not blame you if you did
Super motorcycle! I have a Kawasaki W650
Beautiful
Lovely bike the Classic. I have the Café version & prefer the clubman bars for the look, style & most importantly the extra weight on the front. I don’t like a light front end. Cracking, characterful engines with top notch gearboxes.
I like the motorcycle too. The angle of the instruments causes the sun to reflect and blind you at certain times of day. I've made a plastic template with small arcing slots to help. I find this a serious safety flaw. Did you also notice that?
The W800 engine is built like the old BSA and Triumphs of the 50's, 60's. Both pistons rise and fall together, unlike the newer twins of Royal Enfield and the new Triumphs. This is why you feel the buzzing, or vibration. I used to wonder why Kawasaki called it the "W" even back when it was a W650 and still wondered after it was enlarged to an 800, Then one day it dawned on me. If you picture the crankshaft with both pistons rising and falling together, it looks like a "W". Thus Kawasaki named the bike the W after the looks of the crankshaft. Just thought I'd share.
no, its just because in the 60's they bougth a license from bsa for a race twin...as kawi was only building 2 stroke at the time. the bike was named W because there frame series were 'numbered' with letters back then.
so when they brang it back it got its old name back too
Best review on this bike I've seen. I will say it sounds a little like a sewing machine compared to the Enfield's and Triumph's. The high idle is what really sounds strange to me. Again great review.
The idle is fast on cold startup and slows upon warm up. The idle is also easily adjustable. Mine was set a little fast from the factory. Probably for break in. The W800 has 360 crank just like the British bikes of the 60s. The Enfield and Triumphs have 270 degree cranks so they don't sound as authentic. The W has a lovely sound all be it on the quiet side. Some have removed the DB killer baffles at the end of the muffler to make them a little louder but they do sound nice. In stock form you don't here much of the exhaust from the seat but from behind and for people on the street they sound really good.
Could you please compare with Triumph street twin??? Also could you please mention miles per gallon, Cruising speed and lowest speed you could ride at the top gear.
I own a 2018 W800, and agree with your review, this is a beautiful bike, even 'no neck' guy with Harley Davidson logo on his shirt enquired politely about this bike. Only thing is that it would benefit from being a 6 gear bike, as could handle it easily for highway cruising.
Still very glad I own it.
Steve (Australia)
The gears are spread quite far apart and the motor has bags of torque so I don't think a sixth gear is needed. Mine is turning 4200rpm at 120kph (75mph}. 2800rpm at 80kph (50mph). I can run 50kph in 5th and roll on to highway speed easily without shifting. I can also pull away from a stop without even touching the throttle. The engine is not stressed at all at highway speed.
I bought my W-800 a month ago and it is better than you describe. The other contender I was looking at was the Yamaha Bolt, which I took your advice to pass over. Couldn't agree more that the W checks off so many boxes! (see 24:49)
I really want a W800 to just cruise.
Jonathan Brenner , and you don't think Bolts are ugly?
Ok ... W800 ... Now you have my full attention kiddo.
Same thoughts lol
Guys, this is a great bike!
Oh, that's purty!
I've possibly never been more torn on any decision ever. I am drooling for this bike after this pretty glowing review, but...the Guzzi V7 III also has me equally drooling (like I've just come from a double root canal). I live in Switzerland and have mountain passes, beautiful lazy country roads, and twisties galore. I also want to do some longer rides, even touring. V7 or W800?
V7 has the handling and fuel advantage for sure. And more character if you like the feeling of being on a machine. The W800 will be less maintenance heavy and a bit lazy. I still lean towards a V7
I wish somebody would manufacture performance aftermarket parts for this bike, so I could soup it up like I could do with a 1960's Bonneville. I spent a lot of time on a 1960's Bonneville that was modified and was pumping out 60 horsepower and got the weight down to 340 lbs. That bike would boogie! This bike makes about 45 horsepower and weighs 5oo lbs. The platform on this Kawasaki would be great for performance upgrades to resemble a real hot rodded Triumph, b/c it's got a 360 crank and an undersquare motor. But I see precious few performance parts available for the W800 other than pipes.
360 crank is why it vibrates like mad.
@@mikehurley5052 It has a little throb between ~3300 and 3800rpm. I have a hard time calling it vibration. I had a 1972 Honda CB350 that would vibrate your feet of the foot pegs and put your whole arms to sleep. Now that was vibration. The W has just enough vibe to let you know your on a a real motorcycle.
I think this is the best A2 license allowed bike on the market for stylish riders
They are rated at 47hp in Europe to meet A2 requirements but here in North America they are rated at 51hp. I've seen specs from Indonesia or some other Asian country where they claim 52hp. The Euro rating is given at 6000rpm but I think the higher rating is at 6500rpm. I think Kawasaki is skirting the Euro regs with creative rating methods. Mine feels like more than 47hp once you pass 4000rpm.
Do you have any suggestions for a nice sounding throaty exhast .
Rabid I get a hint of a wonderful sound from this bike like the 70's Honda and Suzuki 4 cylinders. Did you get that impression as well? Also, how does this compare to the T100 and V7iii as retro bikes?
Kawasaki have got alot of desirable models. Something for just about any kind of riding.
How does it compare to your Honda CB1100 ex?
Rock n roll bike
Yes it is.
Perhaps you could make a video about your vlog gear. How you mount your camera to the helmet, and how you wire it up for sound. I think many of us would be interested.
I can do that.
@@RabidHedgehog I am looking forward to it! By the way, back in 2017 when I was looking for a new bike, I heard about the Kawasaki W800 being sold in Europe, and not in the US. I would have bought it in a heartbeat. Instead, I bought a Suzuki SV650. I didn't regret it though.
This bike would sell better if they had released the black w800 street version that they did overseas. Looks so much better. This bike has that unique timing gear instead of chain as well which is not gonna change much riding wise but still pretty neat for gearheads.
I own the Street version (available in Canada) and absolutely love it, and think it's a tough looking yet handsome bike. The Classic is beautiful mind you. I find the W800 has lots of low end torque and decent acceleration when you open it up. It's the perfect 60s style Brit bike with modern ABS, fuel injection, brakes and reliability. The ride even gets better as it breaks in. I agree, they should have started out in the States with the Street, then the Classic when it came out. Some don't like the satin paint (which I think accentuates the chrome pipes, bevel drive shaft and polished aluminum rims). As a gear head, the bevel drive is the icing on the cake!
@@dougfielding8215 Being a longs stroke under stressed low compression engine and no timing chain they will do 100,000 miles with only proper routine maintenance. I've watched videos of a few Ws with 100,000 to 150,000 trouble free kilometers on the clock. No timing chain to worry about is big bonus.
Reminds me of my 77 kz750b
カワサキW800最高！！！🇯🇵
As far as seat comfort for long rides, which is better, this or the 2017 Honda CB1000 ex?
Equal.
tremendous video, congratulations, I would like to buy that motorcycle here in Puerto Rico, but it have a air cooled engine and here is a tropical hot island, I don't know if it could affect the engine performance.
In Oklahoma it gets very very hot, we don't have the humidity levels y'all do. But we can reach 113F so add in the heat off of the pavement we're usually 140s or so in motion and it does not seem to bother it. The only thing recommended at that point would be to change oil more frequently.
@@RabidHedgehog definitely my favorite machine. thank you.
Hello Rabid Hedgehog,
What is the feeling ridding this bike, compared to the 2017 1100EX?
Awesome video :)
I can tell you as an EX owner who has ridden the W800. Much lighter of course, weirdly similar vibrations higher up the rev range but the EX will be going faster at those same revs so you can avoid them much easier or even altogether. The W is sprung lighter as it has to cope with less weight so you can get a softer ride on it if that’s your thing. I’d have both!
Is the slipper-assist clutch a major benefit? The bike is pretty close in price to a Triumph but they don't include one in the same class.
Are you sure? I think all the current Bonneville’s have a slip assist clutch. But yes it’s interesting how they work. Some people don’t like them because the clutch lever feel is different, but it allows effortless clutchless upshifting, and rev-match downshifting becomes a breeze. It’s difficult to explain, but when you experience it yourself and play around with the shifter and clutch engagement, especially downshifting, you get it.
The W800 has amazing engine braking. The slipper clutch helps prevent locking up the rear wheel when down shifting aggressively. The assist portion means the clutch springs can be lighter giving a nice light clutch pull.
Now you're talking like an old man😀...or like me😬...I have about 15 older bikes...including a 78cx 500 (heard u mention)...id love to take a spin on a w800!
I just bought the W800 today. Can you post a link or provide the name of the top bag you have on the rear passenger seat? Thanks.
Depending on what you want to carry but a decent all around one is this in the 24L www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/cortech-super-20-tail-bag?gclid=CjwKCAjwp9qZBhBkEiwAsYFsb3dm1YlRLHohYzNiO8oWlsT0bX7ohsj_ROhUIHh4MMI6QrsxkIKgWRoCBQMQAvD_BwE
Such a nice, simple bike! Maybe I go downgrading from my Z900RS. I don‘t need that power, but maybe get more of that old feeling..... 😉
Go for it! I feel more connected to the road on the back of a 42 year old Honda CX than anything else I ride. Something about simple machines.
Rabid
You ride on the back ?
As nice as the Z900s are, they are way more bike than I need. The W800 fits most of my needs and I love the loping low end torque of the long stroke 360 degree crank engine on the W. It is just relaxing to drive and you don't feel any need to ring its neck. It is not nearly as fast as a Z900 but int eh 4000-6000rpm range it may surprise you.
What do you think of the W800 compared to the 2017 CB1100EX that you own?
You really don't want to compare Toyota Camry to Enzo Ferrari in both price and performance wise.
Love the review, Mr. Hedgehog! You mention your height but not weight. I'm 6'2" and 240. Will it ride well with me?
I am around 209. But yes it can indeed hold that weight without issue.
@@RabidHedgehog Thank you for your prompt reply. Keep up the excellent work! You are, by far, the most thorough and captivating vlogger.
So it vibrates at 60 to 70 mph
May as well keep my Meradin Triumph
I wish my w800 looked like yours at the beginning of this video I wouldn’t of got rid of it.
which bike were u riding in intro of this video
2017 Honda CB1100EX
you are s sales rep !
I see that everyone else beat you when the light turned green which means you caught the next red light, too. Can't even keep up with a Kia. Great bike. How about a review of that CX500 and why wasn't that sufficient to satisfy your biking needs? I've got a chance for a 1982 GL500 Silverwing for $ 1,400 on my local Craig's List. I've checked out other GL500's and keep getting all sorts of positive and negative reviews to the point that I haven't bought one yet.
I own a Yamaha SR400 love it but I’ve been really looking at getting this bike 🏍 for longer rides or highway 🛣 riding.
Fit an SR500 engine, probably as fast as a W800
@@jibjab351 Not a chance.
At 5:40 you are coming to a stop on top of oil drops from cars. Sooner or later you will slip and fall on that mess. Rain makes it much more slippery. Moved right so your wheels are where the right pair of tires on a car ride and you will have much cleaner pavement under your tires.
More than likely that is camera distortion as toward the end of the stop you'll see a little flick to the left to stay out of it.
After spending a few years on a '76 Yamaha 650 , I had enough of the buzzy vibration, electrical headaches, lousy brakes, constant chain adjustments etc. Moved on to an 1980 XS 850 triple..smooth as glass, powerful and completely reliable..never looked back...
I understand the appeal but having been there, I don't care to go backwards for a main bike...maybe for occasional outings definitely not for long distances...maybe that's the point...hmmm...maybe I do need one!?!?
Maybe you do. The XS850 is a hell of a nice bike. I had friend in the early '80s that had a Midnight Special XS850 and it was nice.
I you want a no thrills ADV overland bike,check out the MRS Oficina one on Google...KX450 forks and modified swingarm...no water-cooling to worry about,and plenty space for a 2nd tank below the battery!
Will this bike fit a 6ft tall guy
Hi rabbid, how is your cb1100? I bet it is a little quicker than this one. Take care, ride safe!
A little quicker?
Really?
Cb has double the power...
Hi Rabid, since you rode both, which would you get the W800 or the Moto Guzzi V7? As I am really torn between the two. They both look great and are both made in their respective factories inJapan and Italy
Did you decide ? I am absolutely torn between the two myself... I really have not been able to decide between the two.
@@papimiami1938 no.....I still haven t decided
@@ivanbaldacchino6339 me either... I can pretty much tell you that I'm going to end up with the Kawasaki... The overall cost of ownership is far cheaper than a Moto Guzzi especially where I'm working in the United States. There's a relative lack of dealerships so service and parts becomes a problem. I've always wanted to own an Italian bike ! But I have to pick between the practicality and reliability of a Japanese bike or the coolness and exclusivity of an Italian bike...
Good call on the Kawasaki.. its a properly well built and engineered bike. your reasoning and concerns are part of why I haven t decided yet because they are also my concerns.... deep down I really want the Guzzi but I always stop and re think it over and over again....besides not every mechanic can work on a Guzzi. most of them will mess it up more instead of fixing it
@papimiami1938.... I ended up getting the Moto Guzzi v7 850 special with blue and brown seat. I couldn't resist the looks and the shaft drive and the sound of the v engine. It is a more expensive bike than the W800, but its just as well made.
realy love the looks but i have heard that there is a bad engine vibration at mid to high revs which is a shame as i was thinking of this as my first bike vs RE Interceptor orTriupmh Street Triple
There are fun vibes and annoying. Yes this one reminds you it is a machine, it does vibe. But to me in a good way.
@@RabidHedgehog oh ok ill have to test ride it myself
@@RabidHedgehog I agree with you. It doesn't detract from the ride and lets you know you're riding a motorcycle (and your wife or girlfriend may love it). You can feel a little vibe but the bike has real smooth power delivery 👌
The vibration may be charming at first but you will learn to hate it on long rides. My RE 650 is very smooth.
I get a little vibration in the pegs at and around 3500rpm that has gotten better now that the bike is broken in. From 4000rpm to 7000rpm redline I find mine to be smooth as glass. And at 3200rpm and below it has no vibration. Slow back road cruising at 50 to 55mph are very smooth and relaxing.
W800 with dual front-disc brakes? what variance is that? thanks
Dual front brakes would make the front end heavy feeling. Besides, that 320mm disc is quite large and stops real well.
@@dougfielding8215 yup, i was wrong i was looking at 0:04 I thought that what he's going to review, it's a CB1100ex that's why
The 2019 and newer W800 bikes have a larger front disc (320mm vs 300mm) than earlier models and have a rear disc brake (270mm) instead of a drum. I find my 2022 stops very well. Way better than my 1982 Virago did. The Virago would brake fade like crazy if you tried stopping in a hurry at highway speed.
Can some one please let me know where is it made
I believe it's made in Japan
Great video!
Would this bike be too tall for me? I'm 5'4".
I know I could get a Yamaha Bolt due to the low seat height, but I really love the aesthetics of the W800.
Haha same problem. Maybe take a look at Honda Rebel if you want something lower.
Go for SR400
No. You'll fit.
Its your inseam length that matters not your height, you can be 5 foot 10 but with short legs.
65 y/o here. 5'4" height. 29" inseam. 140 lbs. Came back to riding after 23 years. Bought a 2022 brand new W800 last March. Perfect fit.
It's such hard choice between Guzzi V7, W800 and CB1100EX
What did you pick?
The CB 1100 is noticeably heavier and less flickable.
Does it have a gas gauge?.........Thank you.
Oddly no.
Nothing wrong with a 5-speed. You want no-frills? Come visit me and throw your leg over my 1986 Yamaha SRX600. Kick-start only. Air-cooled. Fun, fun, fun.
I always enjoy your reviews. You take a bike for what it was intended and you seem to smile and enjoy many of them. And your honest about what could be improved.
Personally, I'd like regular spoke wheels and tubeless tires. Wider selection.