2017 Porsche 911 991.2 all the new changes and options C4S C2S
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- I take a detailed look at all the small changes in the updated 991.2 911 both inside and out.
Thank you Kevin for the use of your car and thank you Peter and John for your help filming.
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This comparison almost made me tear up a little. The 911 has been my dream car since I was a little kid and this 2017 model is the most beautiful one Porsche has ever designed in my eyes. I hope to get my hands on one before I die :)
Hey man, it’s been 8 years, I hope you were able to buy your dream car.
Thanks Nick. Your review helped me with a decision making process whether to buy a 2016 leftover on sale, or order a 2017. You also gave a helpful overview of the options. You are A+.
Glad it was helpful Dan
Brilliant comparison video as always... Thanks from a 987.2 Cayman owner in Malaysia!
With the new rear vents and the cetre mounted exhausts i think the 991.2 looks a lot more retro, which i really love. Since Porsche cant follow a space age design like the R8's, then i say embrace the retro. Also, as much as i want RWD, dat rear flared wheel arches and that red line between the rear lights make the 4S so much better looking!
I just discovered Nick's videos! I really like his camera angles. He must be the only Porsche videos, that I have seen so far, that show more of the car than simply a video of the guy driving the car!
That skipping of the wheels at full lock is pretty common. I experienced it a lot when reversing in my yard in both in a Macan S and subsequently a Cayenne S Diesel. I have a base 991.2 on order... Thanks for the very informative videos. Keep up the good work!!
That turbo spool sound is so real. Love it. A pro over the old engine. Even the small 718 has it. Legend.
Lip on the side it is because you have AWD version, on the old one c4 991.1 was same lip :)
+Roman Teslya Good spotting. Thanks
TURBO!!!
YES A LONG REVIEW! LIKE BEFORE WATCHING SQUAD ANYONE?
Nick, you didn't talk about the PDK lever's manumatic function! Porsche reversed the direction of the shifts, so it's pull back to upshift versus the 991.1's push. It feels so much more intuitive now.
+Pangata I did not know this! I will make sure I mention in an upcoming video. Thanks for the tip
Hi Nick! I'm a long time Boston terrier owner and big time Porsche lover. I watched your older videos when your car had a pool in it. Reminds me of my first car the BMW 2002. Even with the water and no heat or defrost it was so much fun to drive. Lets see little more of your dog if you can. Cheers!
Nice and very interesting comments before 991.2 launch.
Hey Nick thanks for pointing out that issue with the front wheels being misaligned when backing up full lock. As an owner of a 2016 Cayman 6-speed I can tell you that same condition applies to this model as well. I can rest easy now knowing its a natural occurrence. Looking forward to that moss green 991.2 your building.
I couldn't care less about the cars featured here and yet I'm here watching it, nick knows how to make good content, hopefully more aircrafts in the future!
+Matthew Sharpe You always ask questions on my videos which I can not answer because you have reply disabled on your account. No the lane change assist is camera based.
+Nick Murray I remember that feature on the [prelude. Wow it was just like yesterday.
Great and detailed review, as always. Porsche should put you on their payroll, for always delivering essential information for prospective buyers who care for more than just the P badge.
Thank you as always nick! No one else out there does the in detail reviews that potential buyers like me need. So I'm grateful and also always enjoy your vids!
Great review! One more interior change, the direction of the Pdk shift lever has changed. It is now tap forward for downshift.
Great review, this has answered all my questions of what the diference is as im looking for one at the moment, thanks
O joy, a new Nick Murray video!
Nicely done as always. I am not a Porsche guy but I have a friend who is so it is nice to get caught up on the changes.
Thanks for this one Nick. I pick up mine here in Stockholm tomorrow:) Will be a sleepless night.
Thank you Mr. Murray. I thoroughly enjoyed this video, as I do most of your videos in which you regale us with useful information. Bless you.
i wish all videos i watched on youtube were like this! So satisfying.
This was incredible! All your camera angles make it special.
Very good attention to detail, Nick
this is why i love this channel...u find out alot ....ty
I agree with you completely Nick on the GT Sport Steering wheel with the multi function being too busy.I have the multi-function on my Macan S and it looks much better!
Your videos are always professional and thorough. Thank you for showing us in great detail all these changes.
thank you so much you solved a problem for me, I thought there was something wrong with my car, with the knocking noise when reversing with full lock cheers
That gentle turbo spool is amazing. I prefer this over 6 cyl...better torque too. Oh and the steering wheel is so sexy. Makes the older one look like a BR-Z.
Great video Nick!
Great review! Thank you so much for videos... I find them very insightful and enjoyable. The comment that you made about the rear steering was incorrect however. Honda wasn't the first car company with the rear steering it was actually Porsche in the late 1970's. The Porsche 928 was the first car with this technology. It was called the Weissach Axle.
Nice video, I picked up my metallic white 911.2 last month. one point to note, on the PCM the flap u lifted also houses the slot for a data or telephone system
+Craig Haldane Normally I don't like white cars but yours is SHARP nice work!
Love your detailed reviews, Nick! Your camera angles make them even more special!
Minor changes indeed but surprisingly many. I love em both haha
Thanks Nick! Great info! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
Nice detailed review Nick. I really like the compare and contrast you did with the .1 model. Keep up the excellent job with the vids!
Thanks Nick. As always a very well done job... At some point would be nice to see your thought for someone buying a new car. BMW,Porsche,Audi etc...
Thanks Again
Great job. A nice summary of the differences. I have a 2015 991.1 S Cab. I'm not going to get the 991.2, but this was good to know. Keep up the good work!
Perfect background music selection! Great review.
I literally love the twin exhausts, I would rather a v6 f-type over the v8 just because of that.. Makes the 911 look so much better
Beautiful cars!! I really like the gray on the 991.2.
Excellent review, Nick. The 991.2 is absolutely gorgeous. I'm just wondering if your friend Peter is now going to trade in his 991.1 for the 991.2.
Nick, one comment regarding the sport steering wheel. I agree with you that it looks very busy, but those rivet nut things aren't the only difference, it is also a 20mm or so smaller in diameter as compared to the regular multi function wheel.
+Shawn St. Denis Yes good point
I see those laser jammers ;) @ 1:20
What really? Inside the middle grill? Wow I've never seen jammers placed there before
OH REALLY!!!
Man, what an amazing review, and so very detailed. This was exactly what I needed in determining my choice of a new or mildy used 991.
Thanks!
Just order my 4S last Friday. Your tips were helpful. Cheers.
Another factor contributing to the issue where one wheel "hops" while taking a turn with the steering at full lock, may come from increased camber, thereby minimizing the size of the contact patch between tire and road surface, allowing that tire to slip.
Well done Nick.
nice job... enjoyed the video.. I test drove the 2017 C4S with the 420 HP... total package = $130k... very, very nice..
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, forgive me if so, but the bit of plastic around the bottom of the sides of the car is because it's a C4 and not a C2. My assumption is that is helping to deal with the wider fenders.
I like your videos. Just got switched to 991.2 myself and drove it for a week. Overall I like it over 991.1, especially now more torque is available at lower rpm. The GT steering wheel has a smaller radius (360mm) than normal one. Only problem I have noteiced so far is that the car jerks (like you are in the wrong gear) sometimes when you drive uphill at very low speed. I don't know whether this is due to some program logic error between new turbo engine and PDK or something else. I asked my dealer and they have not figured it out yet since the car is just out.
Hi Nick, thanks for this review on the 991.2. I really enjoy your insight in the Porsche models and your videos certainly influenced me when specifying my 991.1. I have had the chance to drive the 991.2 Targa S and thought it drove really well. Because I have recently bought my 991.1 / 4 GTS I didn't want to like it as much as I did, but the new turbo engine just makes the new gen 2 model so easy and responsive to drive. I just miss that engine noise though. I have registered my interest in the new 991.2 / 4 GTS with my local dealer when they get more details. Who knows I could be persuaded.. Keep up the good UA-cam videos
I like the changes in the 991.2017
I wish Porsche would make softer seats. I sat in a Boxster Spyder recently and the damn thing gave me chronic back ache instantly! They were the carbon backed, sport bucket seats.
Not sure about the multifunction steering wheel hate, i loved it on my m56 . you can drive sporty with a multifunction steering wheel. It makes it a practical car that can hang with bimmers and MB's with the porsche driving experience. Currently with my 991.1 i miss controlling the radio and the phone from the wheel it keeps ur eyes on the road. You really need to get a 991.2, the m4 is great but you are porsche man!
Thanks, Nick. Looks like 991.1 is the last and the best classic Carrera S to have. They finally made everything perfect: front, back, interior, kept old engine before ruining it all with the new front bar and turbos in 991.2.
You think that, until you drive the 991.2, then you realize the .2 is better in every way. Forget about the 991.1 as the “last great”, no one will care in 20 years that it’s non-turbo; especially because the best 911s have always been Turbo.
The 911 is the king of sports cars.
Thorough look. Thanks Nick
Hi Nick, not sure you've driven 991.2 with PDK but one thing I noticed is that Porsche have changed the manual gear-selector direction i.e. pull to go up, push to go down (991.1 is opposite). Strange that I haven't seen one review mention this because IMO it now feels much more natural.
That was a fantastic video Nick. I had no idea the 991.1 and 991.2 differed in so many ways. Personally I think the 991.1 is the better car in every way, especially the way you spec'd your car (loved the deviated stitching). You should see if you can get ahold of a GTS model porsche for a video. They are in my opinion, the highest evolution (in road going terms) of the porsche brand, and after driving the cayman and 911 gts variants I can tell you they are quite special. Keep up the good work!
the sideskirt was there on the 991.1 GTS, 4GTS, 4, and 4S. all wide bodies had it.
Great video Nick! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the absolutely desirable 911 R that was unveiled recently!
+Kirtan L I very much doubt I will ever get to drive one sadly. They are collectors items so very few of them will ever be driven.
+Nick Murray Well you never know. You've got enough of a fan following to ask Porsche to let you try one out!
...As usual Great content Nick...plus Just love the Mozart on the background
Great review of a beautiful car. Really enjoy your attention to detail, well done!
Great video - very informative and great to watch - thanks Nick
Great vid Nick for those considering the newer 911 - Cheers!
you forgot to mention the new exit for the new rear vents. They are on the right and left lower rear end. The air for cooling that enters through the new vertical vents exits through this.
+Bari Vitolo True, I did film it but I cut out that part due to noise on the video.
OOOOOOooohhh that 60hz. Thank you so much.
The first vehicle to use 4ws technology was the 1985 skyline r31 with HICAS system.
The fact that you can’t notice the difference the RWS makes casts doubts on your other observations. I could tell right away, on normal on road driving. It’s obvious bro!
Nick, I understand the auto/stop feature is default 'on' in the new 991.2 and can't be defeated. Maybe you could check this out in your part 3 video.
Nice music at the end Nick!
One of the nerdiest car videos I've seen in quite some time. Love it :)
Great quality and detail as per usual, Nick. Keep well mate :)
You forgot one of the most biggest changes. The pdk shifter finally goes the right way. Down to go up a gear & up to go down a gear.
can you please review an M4 competition package and also throw in how it compares to the .2 's model. this should be easy for you as an owner of a regular m4 and previous owner of the .1 you will be able to tell us who actually made progress with their product.
The lip on the side has nothing to do with the face lift. The blue 991 is a C2S and the 991.2 is a C4S. The previous 991 C4S has the lip on the side as well. The lip on the side is part of all AWD 991's, the 991.1 and the 991.2.
Fantastic review thanks. Really thorough. I'm about to order one so this has really helped.
It's only money Nick and you only live once... buy it now, you know it makes sense!
Awesome review!!! Very detailed, even for me as a non-plus-ultra fan ;)
You could have mentioned that you can only get PDCC with the rear axle steering, which makes it extremly expensive o.O
Second
+Nick Murray Hi Nick. Whats your thoughts on the 911R? It might suit you? Fast but understated.
+Expedition Africa The 991R is not going to be sold to the public, it was for 918 owners and Porsche insiders only.
+Nick Murray Thats disappointing...Porsche now trying out Ferraris style.
+Expedition Africa It sold out almost instantly most before it was even shown to the public.
+Nick Murray Will you take one ? If yes, what model, colours and options ?
Wow! Great review! Now if I only had the money to get one...
If you weren´t that great Nick, I would never watch a video with such content :D But you are great so I had to watch it :D
Just a minor comment. The black side skirt you pointed out is only on the Carrera 4's and not on the standard Carrera. Same for 991. and .2.
I loved this Nick thanks for making it.
Great stuff Nick! Keep 'em coming. Like you I am planning on a 991.2 in the near future as well. I'm back and forth between transmission though. I love a manual but shifting through gears with the PDK transmission is better than sex. I'd love to see a vid on the two options, especially from you.... and Chewie if need be ;)
I have eagerly waited for this video! Thanks man!
I love your Porsche vids. Num 1 UA-camr! hope you order yours soon!
well made video Nick very good details.
Nick, did you know the GT sport steering isn't just a detailing change in the spokes? It's a smaller rim diameter as well.
Love your channel Nick
Nice one, Nick.
Great info and video Nick!!!
Great video Nick, love the in depth videos
Great job Nick...Thanks
Love your videos keep them coming. Thanks for your effort. John O.
Great video. Production just gets better and better. A camera question - what lens/adaptor do you use on the GX7? I am just buying one and the package lens are said to be poor for video. I want to invest wisely in the best lens/adaptor for 4k and HD video for this camera. Thanks.
+Ian Parrott Yes the package lens is poor for video. I use the Olympus M Zuiko lens. 7-14 mm f2.8 or the Lumix 12-35 OIS
Nice review. Would love to hear your pov on the Cayman gt4.
Great video as always Nick, really enjoy your comparison/in-depth review, so, are you going to get the new 991.2 sometime in the future? P.s. What do you think about the new W205 generation C63S, personally I love the new look especially in the coupe form, can you do a test drive on that too when you have the chance? Really keen to see what you think about that car