NEW IKEA Parasoll and Vallhorn sensors

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @NepGangster
    @NepGangster 10 місяців тому +13

    I have 2 parasoll devices connected to Home Assistant through ZHA using a Conbee II. Interview did hang once on the first device, now that u metioned it but it works great for me. It has one sensor: opening. (closed or opened). also it shows battery in diagnostic, Identify, LQI and RSSI. They havent failed on me since i own them.

    • @NepGangster
      @NepGangster 10 місяців тому +2

      Also, its very fast. I open the door and the light (also ikea bulb) is on instantly. I love them.

  • @Jensen871
    @Jensen871 10 місяців тому +13

    I got 2 Vallhorn sensors in home assistant with zigbee2mqtt. They work fantastic and im blown away they cost so little. Highly recomend!

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing

    • @tiagodumont4422
      @tiagodumont4422 7 місяців тому

      They are extremely slow at responding by industry standards though. Even their range is something like 2m at best. Yeah, they are cheap but you get what you pay for.

  • @eliogrin
    @eliogrin 10 місяців тому +7

    There is known issue with Vallhorn sensor when he start to send false motion trigger. After doing some research the solution is really fun - replace battery with rechargeable battery. I believe because of higher voltage of regular batteries it starts to produce noise. I spend few days in researching, hope will save someone’s time.
    Nevertheless sensors working great, and illumination values working great for me.

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc 10 місяців тому +1

      Hoping this solves my false trigger problems. I just checked and I was using normal Ikea alkaline batteries.

    • @eliogrin
      @eliogrin 10 місяців тому +1

      @@gmosc , please, let us know here. But in my case fix an issue and working well for a month already.

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc 10 місяців тому +1

      @@eliogrin I'll let you know. Had to charge my batteries fully to do it right....

    • @gmosc
      @gmosc 10 місяців тому +5

      @@eliogrin it's working!

  • @ChristianBjørnerud
    @ChristianBjørnerud 10 місяців тому +8

    I have Ikea Vallhorn working just fine in Home Assistant with ZHA. Had some trouble installing a few of them, but when I tried again the next day they were installed with all values. They work best with Ikeas rechargeble batteries (1,2 v). Added comment: My Vallhorn has firmware 1.57, Home Assistant Sky connect.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing - mine is also on 1.0.57 version and it didn't work with SkyConnect. But maybe it's due to me running it in multiprotocol mode?

    • @AndyKennedy
      @AndyKennedy 10 місяців тому +2

      Same here, sky connect and works fine with zha for me.
      Including lux. Hopefully that's the case for most people

    • @markdinh
      @markdinh 10 місяців тому

      works in zha for me with sonoff e (not in multiprotocol) @@BeardedTinker

  • @Bigglare
    @Bigglare 9 місяців тому +2

    Just found two Vallhorn at my Charlotte NC, USA store. Can't beat the 8.99 price. Added readily to HA ZHA this morning with Lux, Occupancy and an Opening Entites. Lux Sensor working as expected.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  9 місяців тому

      Support has been extended in ZHA over last few months. They should now work really well!

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 6 місяців тому +2

    I bought these for fun. IKEA is about 20 minutes away, and I don't wanna buy items from Chinese companies, so this lined up. I didn't expect much, but it's cool that some of these work at all.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  6 місяців тому +1

      It's great to have alternative to Chinese ones!

  • @barrichello83
    @barrichello83 10 місяців тому +6

    Now I know why the old motion sensor was priced down. Bought two of those yesterday 😅. The option to place it into a corner is nice. I also picked up the Parasoll to try it out. It lives in my pantry now, just turning the light on when I open the door.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for sharing - ability to bind to device directly is great. Even when hub is down it should still work.

    • @barrichello83
      @barrichello83 10 місяців тому +2

      update, stopped working after 10 days. Battery change fixed it. Hope this is due to a bad battery and not because it uses that much power @@BeardedTinker

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Was is rechargeable battery @@barrichello83 ?

    • @barrichello83
      @barrichello83 10 місяців тому +1

      No it wasn't@@BeardedTinker

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      @@barrichello83 ok, just be careful as they in documentation mention that it should be 1.2V battery

  • @timosariwating8655
    @timosariwating8655 10 місяців тому +2

    No issues at all with the PARASOLL on Zigbee2MQTT 1.35.1. Using a SLZB-06 Zigbee-to-Ethernet Bridge

  • @Bigglare
    @Bigglare Місяць тому +1

    The Parasoll sensors I had initially paired with a Third Reality Smart bridge for me and worked great as a Matter device. I tried this weekend to pair a few new ones wtih ZHA and started seeing the same results with compatibility with ZHA. I guess I will keep them as a Matter device.

  • @dumitrudan608
    @dumitrudan608 8 місяців тому +2

    Do you have any tutorial on home asistant for someone who wants to start and wants to understand limitations and what does home assistant give you vs the built in Ikea Home?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  8 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, nothing like that.

  • @mateistoica
    @mateistoica 4 місяці тому +1

    My Parasoll works great on Z2M and Sky Connect. No issues at all. Just ordered 5 more.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  4 місяці тому

      Yes, they had a few updates and fixes in both ZHA and Z2M to get everything supported since the video was recorded! Glad it's working for you

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 6 місяців тому +2

    I have no clue you needed to press the link button 4 times in quick succession. The instructions said to hold for 10 seconds even on the remotes, but the 4-press of the link button fixed all my issues trying to link these!

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  6 місяців тому +1

      Holding for 10 seconds can be used to bind sensor to for example light or power outlet to directly control it.

  • @KimmoJaskari
    @KimmoJaskari 26 днів тому +1

    For me, the sensor having AAA battery support is a deal breaker - that is, if it uses a button cell or something else horrible, it's out of the question. I think I'll pick up some of these Vallhorns. The fact that they're large isn't that important, and unlike the Thirdreality I already own that are much smaller, these do measure the light level also which opens up for some more creative automations.

  • @woutyboy3
    @woutyboy3 10 місяців тому +1

    I just bought the Parasoll motion sensor 2 days ago and tested it with Home Assistant ZHA and it connected with no problem! The illuminance and lux do not work for ZHA as far as I could see.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      That's great - some users reported that it's working for them (light sensor).

  • @TastySwift
    @TastySwift 3 місяці тому +1

    read a review on the Norwegian version of the Ikea-app that Vallhorn detects movement when there aren’t any. Do you know anything about this??

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  3 місяці тому

      I haven't had any such issues for 3 months. No ghost detection so far.

  • @_renssies
    @_renssies 10 місяців тому +1

    The VALLHORN is working fine for me with Z2M, including luminance. But my PARASOLL is a mess, it sometimes doesn't detect at all (the light on the device doesn't turn on) or the ZigBee message is not received by the coordinator (light turns on, but no state change in Z2M). Both use the same grey LADDA batteries. Using a SONOFF P stick and have an ASKVADER switch that can act as a router.

    • @sulylunat
      @sulylunat 10 місяців тому +2

      If the lights aren't coming on it sounds more like a hardware issue. Regardless of connecting it to a network, the lights should still flash once when sensor is closed and twice when sensor is opened. If that isn't happening, you have a hardware issue and it might be worth returning and trying another.

  • @sulylunat
    @sulylunat 10 місяців тому +2

    Just wanted to mention with the parasoll I experienced a similar issue with the process hanging trying to add the device to ZHA. I think what was said about routers possibly being the problem may be true as when I was trying to pair them, I was in a different room to the Skyconnect and the closest router was a smart plug. The plug is allegedly 3.0 but it's a cheap aliexpress plug so not sure if there is any truth in that or not.
    What I can say is I tried multiple times with different parasolls and if I was closer to a router rather than the Skyconnect, the sensors would not pair up. The second I went in the room with the Skyconnect and retried the process it got paired up straight away, no issue at all. So I would suggest pairing up with the device close to the Zigbee coordinator. I have since move my 4 parasolls to different areas of the house and they are all working very well and are responsive. Looking at the ZHA network map only one of them is currently connected directly to the Skyconnect, the other 3 are all connected via the same smart plug it was probably struggling to pair through and they are working absolutely fine, so you should be fine to pair with coordinator and then move them to wherever they need to go and they should be able to figure out the routing. Originally I had two of them reporting 0% battery level even though I knew they definitely weren't as it was a brand new set of batteries, but they are now displaying the correct level so if anyone is having that issue, just be patient and it might correct itself.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for explanation!
      I tried on network where there are no routers - just SkyConnect and same issue. About battery, I've mentioned that - it can take some time for battery te bo reported. It's considered normal for battery state to be updated after some time, up to 24hrs.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      I believe that may be (one) of the problems. I tried connecting directly to ZHA via SkyConnect, without any router on the network, and that also didn't work. But, again, this could be by design issue that doesn't allow that too :)

    • @sulylunat
      @sulylunat 10 місяців тому

      @@BeardedTinker strange. Only other difference is you tested on the 2024.1.5 version, but I’m on the 2024.1.4 version. I’m a bit worried to update now!

  • @John7No
    @John7No 10 місяців тому +1

    what is the model of the other censor @9:43
    I am on a hunt for such a small sensor

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      Besides IKEA, we have Sonoff SNZB-03, but you are probably thinking about Aqara motion sensor gen 2. First gen is very similar, but doesn't detect light. I got them from here s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkHjSnb

    • @John7No
      @John7No 10 місяців тому

      @@BeardedTinker how about that small door-window sensor that is really small compared to the ikea one , around the 10th minute of the video?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      That's just random "tuya" Zigbee door/window sensor. There are tons of similar ones. I have these few: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005175921792.html
      www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005409554837.html
      www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005873006042.html

  • @zyrexgraft
    @zyrexgraft 10 місяців тому +2

    I use skyconnect and i could adopt all of the sensors into ZHA, both Parasoll and Vallhorn, although im not using 1.2v batteries both types work as expected in my Home assistant, opens and closes, shows brightness, Vallhorn does give false positives currently but i suspect that is caused by the wrong battery voltage. The door sensor works as expected for me, got two of them and have not seen anything wrong with them yet.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      That's really strange... Check this. Same issue -community.home-assistant.io/t/ikea-parasoll-vallhorn-devices-not-working-zha/668852 but again this was tested with SkyConnect with the latest firmware.

    • @jonasregmyr
      @jonasregmyr 10 місяців тому +1

      I can confirm Vallhorn working great with ZHA and Sonoff Dongle-E on HA Blue with all the latest versions installed as of today. Zero problem. Rundning with IKEA Ladda batteriets.

    • @MartinBentancour
      @MartinBentancour 10 місяців тому +1

      I had the same issue, changed to 1.2 rechargeable batteries (the ones from Ikea) and I have not had any false positives since then.

  • @andreysimeonov1661
    @andreysimeonov1661 9 місяців тому

    Nice video, but showed only from the perspective of the Home assistance network, some of us don't have it, and will glad to hear how the buttons working, for example, how to change day/night mode and such things.

  • @Beringtom
    @Beringtom 10 місяців тому +6

    I would proberly not screw the back back on the door sensor unless you absolutly need to. The use of recharable AA's really is something nice to see

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, rechargeable batteries make a lot more sense in long run

  • @constantinpadure6672
    @constantinpadure6672 4 місяці тому +1

    Today 2 july it working , latest HAOS with Sky. That 2 buttons don't know how work. Now via ZHA work light , and occupance. Is one extra "oppening" but I don;t know is maybe if is a error. What to open ?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  4 місяці тому

      Both of them are fully supported in latest versions of ZHA and Z2M.
      Not sure why there is opening sensor, though.

  • @YaGr-ip3ub
    @YaGr-ip3ub 10 місяців тому +1

    Parasoll works fine with ZHA, I have the conbee 2 and HA running in an VM
    What I found out, is that if you are too far away from your Zigbee stick, the configuration fails. Then reset the Sensor and pair it again.

  • @gerardschepers3744
    @gerardschepers3744 6 місяців тому

    I got 3x Vallhorn sensors and put all 3 aside and went back to the old IKEA motion sensor.
    One tip, found in these comments, is to use rechargeable batteries. I did not try that one yet

  • @matkany
    @matkany 10 місяців тому +1

    While it needed multiple run for the motion sensor I could connect the motion and the door sensor to ZHA with sonoff zigbee stick-P. The motion sensor drops some times from the zigbee, but I think it is because my network and not the sensor. The door sensor is really nice. Small and AAA battery use is nice.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Glad it's working for you. Did you check signal strength on motion sensor? Maybe that's the issue. Maybe try to add the via other router on the network.

  • @JaneTaubman
    @JaneTaubman 10 місяців тому +1

    I had a lot of problems with Ikea bulbs on SkyConnect and it turned out you needed to upgrade the firmware on the SkyConnect, just thought I would mention it in case you had not upgraded yours lately.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Thanks - it's running latest stable version. But I'm running it in multi-pan mode, maybe this is the issue

  • @SuperVitcom
    @SuperVitcom 8 місяців тому +1

    How is the situation with the window sensor issue right now?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  8 місяців тому +1

      It should be 100% supported in both ZHA and Z2m.

  • @BBalasa
    @BBalasa 10 місяців тому

    Hi, do we know that is the re arm / re monitoring time for motion sensor. Ikea motion sensors are generally dread full , previous generation one’s where timing 5 seconds for re test…

  • @ToMiKoN
    @ToMiKoN 6 місяців тому +1

    Does it already support ZHA? I'm planning at rip to IKEA, maybe I pick it up!

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, both of them are now 100% supported in ZHA.

  • @paullacatus8975
    @paullacatus8975 10 місяців тому +1

    What about thread and matter ? Are there supported the IKEA sensors. Did you tested with Dirigera coordinator ?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      I don't have dirigera - only older Tradfri hub, but that one is offline.
      As for matter/thread, that more HUB issue for end devices - if hub supports it, you should be able to add it to matter network.

  • @videolan
    @videolan 10 місяців тому +1

    @videolan
    0 seconds ago
    I wonder if the sensors are not being updated beause of a bug that has also affected the Yolink integration since HA 2024.1.3 - It seems a similar problem. Maybe it is best to test things only in release versions. of HA?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      If it is related, then it will be fixed in 2024.5.6 release of HA. Also note, this is an official release. It's not dev or beta.

    • @videolan
      @videolan 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BeardedTinker Why will we have to wait until the sixth release in June 2024 or do I not understand the versioning schema?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Typo 2024.1.6 :)

    • @videolan
      @videolan 10 місяців тому

      @@BeardedTinker As you predicted - it's now been fixed.

  • @qdaniele97
    @qdaniele97 6 місяців тому

    The issue with the availability of parasoll sensors it's probably due to something wrong with the default "are-you-alive" ping timings.
    As a temporary fix, disabling availability checks for those sensors in the zigbee2mqtt config should work.

  • @diglyph
    @diglyph 10 місяців тому +1

    Have you tried the door sensor with an alkaline AAA cell instead of a rechargeable? Sometimes the lower voltage of the latter can affect the performance of some devices.
    Had been looking at picking some up next time I'm at Ikea, but may hold off for the short-term.

    • @sulylunat
      @sulylunat 10 місяців тому +2

      They should be fine as they are designed to work specifically with Ikea rechargeables. Ikea doesn't even sell non rechargeable AAAs and I don't think any of their products are designed to work with stuff that Ikea do not sell. It also specifically states on the product page to use them with Ikea rechargeables. I have 4 parasolls and have had no issues with them to be honest, set them up last weekend and they have been rock solid since the initial pairing difficulty.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      That't correct. Device is designed for rechargeable batteries. Some users are reporting issues with standard/alkaline batteries, that are fixed as soon as they swap them.

  • @Whatwherewhy586
    @Whatwherewhy586 10 місяців тому +1

    Cant wait till these hit the US stores.

    • @markdinh
      @markdinh 10 місяців тому

      i got some last month at 1 of the 3 Bay Area stores (Palo Alto)

    • @Whatwherewhy586
      @Whatwherewhy586 10 місяців тому +1

      @@markdinh the door sensor?! I see only the motion sensor which i don’t really have a use for at the moment.

  • @marcodegier6298
    @marcodegier6298 10 місяців тому

    thanks for the review! Does anyone know if illuminance values get reported independently of motion or only if motion is detected?

  • @grahamshaw5531
    @grahamshaw5531 10 місяців тому +1

    Not cheap but I use Philips Hue sensors. I can buy these local. any other brand will have to bought online from overseas.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      If it can be sourced locally, that is a good option!

  • @TheZukru
    @TheZukru 10 місяців тому +1

    Just pay attention to the manual saying they need 1.2V batteries, not 1.5V! Ikea Ni-MH AAA batteries are 1.2V so they work well together.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Correct, thanks. I've seen in the comments that some are using them with normal, 1.5V batteries.

  • @schlomosilbermann7407
    @schlomosilbermann7407 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you take a look at the Ikea leak sensor?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Not sure if it was released. We don't have it locally. Not 100% sure, but I think I've seen somewhere it will be released in few months.

    • @TalOrmanda
      @TalOrmanda 10 місяців тому +1

      that comes out in april@@BeardedTinker

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      @@TalOrmanda Thanks, than I did see it correctly. Was afraid I mixed it up with something else.

  •  10 місяців тому +1

    I have both with z2m and they work properly. Coordinator is dongle-P.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      What HA version are you running it on?

    •  10 місяців тому +1

      @@BeardedTinker Latest HAOS.

  • @Marajie
    @Marajie 10 місяців тому +1

    I have 2 motionsensors and both are connected to zha.

  • @jackipiegg
    @jackipiegg 10 місяців тому +1

    Will you review ikea's new buttons as well?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      I will, waiting for them to come to stock here (new dimmer and shortcut)

  • @MiggyManMike
    @MiggyManMike 10 місяців тому +1

    Is it just me or is there a huge gap in the market for door sensors for one designed to be fit inside a door face/strike plate ?

  • @dutchbeastz
    @dutchbeastz 6 місяців тому

    If you're using it with SmartThings it can only use the light lumen option.. not motion. So luckily I was just in time to purchase a lot more of the old Tradfri motion sensors. But had gladly used the new type.
    Somebody know how to use with smartthings or are new devices being able to do it?

  • @rafflesmaos
    @rafflesmaos 10 місяців тому +2

    Standard high capacity rechargeable batteries inside zigbee sensors? Sign me up. Looks like I know what I'll be putting into my house next... just need temperature/humidity sensors.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Hopefully, soon - it is really nice to be able to use rechargeable batteries.

  • @mattpeufpeuf
    @mattpeufpeuf 10 місяців тому +1

    Is it work with hue bridge ?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      Haven't tested. Avoiding anything Philips :) Even food processors ;)

  • @chrisrosenkreuz23
    @chrisrosenkreuz23 10 місяців тому +1

    Good stuff!

  • @ParthMakkar-j9j
    @ParthMakkar-j9j 3 місяці тому

    Hi, has anyone successfully paired these with hue bridge? Thanks

  • @gulion06
    @gulion06 11 місяців тому +1

    You had more luck than me, the Ikea latest motion sensor in z2m light reading is ok (although I didn't check the accuracy) but motion stays on "present". So, cheap but, as of today.. useless

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  11 місяців тому +1

      Really disappointing if you are HA user. If I would us it in their environment, direct binding with lights or similar, it would be OK device. But, we don't live in isolated world.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      You're welcome Ron! Thank you!!

  • @suzithewitch
    @suzithewitch 10 місяців тому +2

    "5 is right out" :)

  • @iainhay2823
    @iainhay2823 11 місяців тому +1

    They don’t look great I must say. I really like their gu10 bulbs, I’ve found them rock solid on z2m and I’ve not had any fail yet so they are great but these I’ll pass on I think

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      I really don't get these new ones. I know someone will probably say, ah, your fault, you need this, that whatever to get it working, but needing to wear red socks, stand on the hand and chant elf song while pairing it - it's not seamless experience :)

  • @TheKenwahl
    @TheKenwahl 10 місяців тому

    Whats with the big ass batteries?

    • @SmithyScotland
      @SmithyScotland 10 місяців тому +2

      IKEA moving away from non-rechargable batteries

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому +1

      How? These are AAA rechargeable batteries?!

    • @TheKenwahl
      @TheKenwahl 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BeardedTinker Yeah, I think that is was @SmithyScotland meant, that IKEA want all batteries to be rechargable, no more CR2032s. Problem is, that makes the sensors REALLY big..

  • @Tntdruid
    @Tntdruid 11 місяців тому +4

    Ikea always do some silly names 😄

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  11 місяців тому +1

      With these ones I once again feel like it's 5+ years ago and they've just started with IoT 😂😂😂

    • @SmithyScotland
      @SmithyScotland 10 місяців тому +3

      They use the names of villages in Sweden. You now insulted the entire country

    • @Tntdruid
      @Tntdruid 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SmithyScotland woops 😂

    • @jonasregmyr
      @jonasregmyr 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@SmithyScotlandIt used to be villages and place but now it's all kinds of Swedish words. VALLHORN is like a trumpet for getting the livestock home in the evening and PARASOLL is what you think it is ⛱️

  • @lacosterbhx
    @lacosterbhx 2 місяці тому

    If ju chav batteri it's ďefiňťelí not Ajkija but IKEA ju understand different Alijosa?

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  2 місяці тому

      You're funny... But you should get rid of your czech accent ;) You sound like Russian!!!

  • @fu1r4
    @fu1r4 10 місяців тому

    Rechargeable batteries only have 1.2 volts. It is much better to use Alkaline batteries that have 1.5 volts. Some devices won't even work with rechargeable batteries because you lose 0.3 volts on every battery you have, so if the device use 3 batteries you will lose almost 1 volt.
    IKEA's batteries are also crap. Both Alkaline and rechargeable, but those are cheap.

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  10 місяців тому

      You are generally right. Unless, devices are specifically designed for rechargeable batteries, like these, and like these have warning to use rechargeable 1.2V batteries explicitly stated in manual.
      Also, aren't those batteries produced in Japan by same factory that's making Panasonic and few others?

    • @fu1r4
      @fu1r4 10 місяців тому

      @@BeardedTinker For 20 years ago we used IKEA's Alkaline and they were cheap and they last for 6 months. Panasonic/Duracell batteries lasted for 2 years in the exact same devices. We used them in clocks in a school. So, you could buy cheap batteries and replace them after 6 months or buy more expensive ones and replace them every 2 years.

    • @rafflesmaos
      @rafflesmaos 10 місяців тому +1

      @@fu1r4 The Ikea LADDA batteries, the 2450 and 750 mah ones, are high end Japan made batteries that have a lot of reviews out there. They are the real deal and there's not much out there that is better than them even at higher prices.

  • @MrVakarojus
    @MrVakarojus 9 місяців тому +1

    Got connected Vallhorn to HA zha easily. Works great. Still we don't have Parasoll in local Ikea, but waiting

    • @BeardedTinker
      @BeardedTinker  9 місяців тому

      There were some updates in both ZHA and Z2M as far as IKEA devices are concerned and now all should work really nicely.