well, everyone is entitled to their opinion...I have no reason to lie...with all due respect, I have zero ego...I am a very confident man, I believe in myself, so maybe to you, I came across as full of myself...confidence are cocky are two different animals.....stay healthy and safe...
@@realmadamsuzanne Honestly, you are a good looking man who seemingly worked hard on his body. You also seem to have done well for yourself with regards to school and employment. Especially for having left home at such a young age. So yes, for sure you have a few reasons to be confident. And i ALMOST believed you on the "zero ego part" until i read through some of the comments and you are responding to a LOT of them. If that does not scream "ego" then clearly I have forgotten the definition. I have never seen anyone comment this much on their own video. And like you said, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so that was mine. Stay healthy and safe :-)
The girls never talk. Too afraid of consequences. It's how Andrew Tate is seemingly getting away with it. I despise him. And no sex work is anything other than seedy and despite what he says, I think he's making out it was all glamour, I bet that's 50% at best
Crazy, the common theme is that a lot of these people had some sort of bad family dynamic. Really shows what a decently health family relationship will do
ikr? how does he even go from amateur bodybuilder probably making close to no money (since he said before he had stopped working for people already at that time) to owning a club?
you will be hearing the girls stories on my podcast, soon...I can't wait, its gonna be awesome....glad you watched, thank you for your time....I really appreciate you....stay healthy happy and safe @realmadamsuzanne
Me too. There’s always more to the story, there’s his version, story A,the ladies under his employ’s versions, stories B, and what is the actual truth, story C. without hearing both sides of the story it’s impossible to get to story C (the truth) which has the most value and relevance.
I wish I could tell the real truth but I'd rather be called a liar here than risk someone else's life...one day the whole truth will come out..I'll just leave it at that
Hypocrisy is a basic human condition, we all have blind spots. It takes a lot of reflection on our words & actions to be aware of them. I've done it, I was disturbed & angered by my self- analysis. It's not fun work
@@alwayslookingatself you are spot on..and as you know it is, and always will be, an ongoing process. Thank you so much for sharing your enlightened reflection..happy new year
He described how many District Attorneys and the criminal justice system works. After over 20 years in a Law Enforcement career I came to the conclusion that there is no real justice. I retired totally jaded and disillusioned with the system.
I blew 60K in grad school, only to have the same realization and walk away from my grand career plan. I wanted no part in the machine that just eats people who are usually victims themselves. Poverty, drugs, addiction, and mental illness are what makes "criminals." There's real evil out there and it's rarely skulking in a dark alleys or stalking lone women in parking lots. They hold public offices and are titans of business. I'd have been another cog in imprisoning people that have limited access to opportunities, which in many cases they either have no ideas they even exist or have been trained to believe there's no "place for" them and pointless to even consider, never mind pursue.
Everybody is pathological. What the fuck do you think it would sound like to hear an interview with John D Rockefeller or Bill Gates or Albert Bourla or Warren Buffett or Anthony Fauci or Madeline Albright?
He's not at therapy lol, underbelly stories mostly cover their adulthood and hardships around it. He did mention a bunch of other stuff about his childhood which you flew over.
I've been doing the same .im.a pipefitter so I keep headphones In and listen while im.working. occasionally look at my phone to.see whay the person looks like.
I do the same. I’ve watched mostly all his videos. I drive a concrete mixer around my city. So having my phone on my dash in a phone mount is a must. These are my escape
It's pretty funny when people say things like that! But I think he meant that he experimented once or twice but it didn't turn into a habit. I also have smoked cigarettes for a very brief time in my life as well as tried edibles but I don't consider myself a drug user or a smoker.
@@melissaredhead6000 Thats what he meant when he said he smoke weed once and Xtasy twice but i think the ubderlying implication was that he doesnt even like both of those which are relatively harmless compared to heroin, coke, crack, etc
"I had gotten myself used to a certain lifestyle, which is a trap" That is the most important line in this whole episode, because there is such a thing as "enough money". Contentment is key, and I love the fact that he realised it
He scares me bc you can tell he’s trying to be charming but then he makes comments like ‘I was dating her so she wouldn’t leave the show’ or ‘I was setting her up’ and you can tell he’s very cold and calculated
Exactly. The one that got me was, I had a girlfriend at the time and she didn't know my real name... WHAT?! Then he's like, I was doing the family thing. My girlfriend had an 8yo. Yet he kept saying that his girlfriend lived in 'said' neighborhood, not that WE lived there. THEN he says that he had all this money in a storage and he was ready to bolt. Sadly, leaving his poor girlfriend behind that could never track him down because she doesn't even know his name. Not to mention leaving the poor little boy I'm sure he was playing daddy to. He was completely living a double life...scary
I worry about that. Then after listening to soo many of these iv started to think some people will find a reason to go down a path. For example one kid says they are from a good family but were poor. The next says their parents worked alot so they had everything but weren't around alot. This is more of a question that anything else, nobody I know is interested in this. I don't write everyone off like this at all. Just wonder if it is a factor for a good percentage?
and there are demographics with .77 attrition rates. thats four out of five broken families, mostly from city demographics. other dems are bad too, like one out of two or .5, but the 4/5 is so sad if you care about lives, ironically
Can’t lie. I’ve definitely had some unsavory ideas cross my mind to alleviate my own student debt. Never acted on it, but definitely watched while some of my girlfriends get themselves debt-free being naked on the internet or escorting. I just didn’t have it in me. Five years after graduating business school i am still a waitress and still in a ton of debt.
and this is why they don't want the girls they pimp to talk.. ever notice... that's first rule they teach you.. don't talk.. look at the ground when spoken to.... fk outta here!!!.. I swear no Smart chick needs a pimp.... the ones that do are on drugs....I can manage my own body 🖐️
In all honesty he seems like a good guy. He didn't force anyone into anything. He didn't beat them. He never lied he didn't rip them off. He didn't rape them or abuse them and he didn't get them addicted to drugs. He was not recruiting underage girls. As far as I'm concerned it should be legal. What I hate are those pimps who use & abuse underage girls not this guy. Unfortunately with all that money he didn't know when to stop till he was caught. Which is the trick the devil plays on people.
@@jd-rm4ez I never stated that this was a fact lmao. You're reaching just to try to sound intelligent....this is the internet. People get to state their opinions and you get to disagree. And I still get to call you wrong because that is MY OPINION. Maybe you're on the wrong website?
Would have enjoyed hearing him speak directly about his feelings on having financially and emotionally hurting the dentist and her child, in addition to seriously disrupting her professional life. Not the facts but feelings. This can be how we lose ourselves in the midst of such drama. 2 people who brought him into their lives were blindsided through no fault of their own.
Generally people who have empathy for others don't do things that harm others, so they don't sell sex. So don't expect to find it in someone who does. Some do know what to say, and can appear to have remorse, but that's just something they know others expect and is a manipulation. He's probably a pretty good salesman with superficial charm.
Can we acknowledge mark? How does he get interviews with people like that? Mark is amazing! Thank you! I hope your go fund me page is successful so you can continue your work.
I've said before even though I do joke around sometimes on here,"I respect the hell out of Mark and I think what he's doing is a really good thing for people to see and the bigger his channel is and the more people see it the more people who have been shielded from things of the street, and all the other types of stuff he addresses,the more of those people who see this will understand and realize just how bad life can really be for some people.Especially those who had horrible traumatic home lives while growing up,or in relationships that totally destroyed their lives,or teenage rebellion that cause them to become really bad addicts.He is doing a service to the world.Thanks Mark we appreciate & love ya man"
Just discovered this channel. Can’t recommend it enough. No hype. No preaching. No celebrity BS. Just unvarnished confessions from ground zero of American pathology. You wanna know who we really are behind the designer sunglasses, the lip filler, the pumped up muscles, the [fill in your preferred stage prop]? This is the straight dope.
Or "Oh but I sell human beings." Drugs are an inanimate product; women are not. The idea that drugs and their users are dirty or evil while men who buy sex are not needs to die.
Not quite. As he said, easy money is the hardest money to get. With his ability to promote his business and manage operations, and work ethic, he could have probably succeeded just as much or more in a regular business, but his life trajectory made it so he didn't project himself far enough into the future to realise a legitimate long term ambition.
Some people are willing to work at a fast food restaurant and make minimum wage while the owner makes a ton more. Other people are willing to have sex for small amounts of money while a third party profits from it. Maybe they SHOULDN’T be willing, but that’s their choice, not the person running the brothel’s.
This guy, I left home at 13 finished high school went to UMASS and managed a restaurant. 12 minutes later oh yeah I sold coke that's where I got the money to start the clubs. LMAO
@@3117ism I'm not surprised to hear that. I commented above I wonder how much other BS he has spinned, aside from his "great childhood "(where he left home at 13 bc his Dad was abusing his Mother!) He just seems like a compulsive BS artist & total sleaze bag.
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"! This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that! You are NOT FOOLING us! Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are! Stay natural buddy!
How to say you're mob affiliated without saying you're mob affiliated: 1. Grew up in italian neighborhood in the 70s and 80s 2. Hung around older italian guys 3. Got kicked out of home at 13 4. Skip a lot of years (selling coke;) 5. Suddenly a body builder can move to California and start a business There are some crucial gaps in that story. 🤔 I mean just the fact that he could operate in Vegas in the 80s means he must have been connected.
you are reading too much into it. it was just a subtle but obvious way to say she had prostituited herself mroe than once before and has no issue fucking for money.
He also had to explain what the rating scale of 1 to 10 is. He throws in obvious things that everyone is aware of to make him sound honest and credible. It’s an entire technique.
He’s not so honest, he lied to his girlfriend for years. He even lied to her about what his real name was. Can you imagine how she felt when she learned the truth? I would have been devastated.
Not to mention everything she went through and lost when they involved her in his mess. She was a honest, hardworking woman in her 50s and lost her dental practice Bc of him. He’s not such a great guy as he portrays hisself to be.
He didn't do anything to her in the manner of which you speak. He kept her safe and far away from his business, that's the best thing he could do. She wouldn't have gotten dragged in if the pigs were right on their information. All those pig wanted was to drag every one down with him, taking all the props for them selves and making them selves look like heroes. Her reputation might have been compromised in the moment but she was eventually cleared because of course Freddy kept her away from it all.
Inev I already told someone else I over reacted I wasn’t meaning to spread hate. It just really caught me off guard when I heard that she didn’t even know his real name and about her age and going through all that.
Putting words into his mouth. He said honesty was his business style. He didn't use that terminology about his personal life, which we didn't get to know much about. Also, how honest do you expect a person to be about what they do if what they do is illegal in their country.
Mark. Long time listener. Love your channel. At first I thought I’ll never get through 59 minutes of this guy. I thought he was completely FOS but after googling him everything changed. What a fascinating story. Incredible. Thanks for another great video Mark.
You should never ask out a waitress at work. That’s weird and makes us extremely uncomfortable. You think it’s okay to do that while someone is at work? In a customer service business, where we are supposed to keep customers happy ?
@Adrian Guynn Yes! He's so full of crap and a definite con-man. Most of the comments are about how great a storyteller he is, and what an interesting life he has; people are so dumb - can't even see what's right in front of them. It's nice to see there are a few people who see through his bull.
'imma be honest with you' said so many times means most things that come out of his mouth are probably lies. geez I feel bad for his gf and kid that didn't even know his real name for 3 years
@Love Bug l am sure all these thumbs up & making this man a damned hero are men. Who need their egos stroked all the time, also so many women DONT orgasm because they don't know what they are doing!!! 😞
This guy comes across as so likeable, but I agree deep down he is probably quite narcissistic, the bodybuilding, the superficial relationships, using and disposing of multiple girlfriends, the emphasis on lifestyle. I gather Navada has some counties where prostition is legal, not sure why he could'nt have operated from there. He is right when he says the law is ridiculous, legal prostitution is much safer for everyone involved and it can be properly regulated like New Zealand and Germany.
He is no doubt an abusive piece of shit. That doesn't stop this from being an interesting interview to analyze the reasoning and rhetoric of such a person.
I appreciate your ability to just stay in the silence and just let them sit. They more than often continue to talk again unveiling more stories. Good job! And as always, so fascinating! Kepp up the great work!
Well that’s not really doing drugs. Of course he tried weed once and did ecstasy twice but that isn’t much at all. Considering he’s telling a story decades from his prime. He considers “doing drugs” as like a weekly or daily thing, an addiction.
He seems to be full of those contradictory statements: I had a great childhood/had to leave at 13 cause my dad was abusive, hate drugs/did them and sold them, hate liars/lie about my name for 3 years.... and the list goes on.
@@chowell1451 Yeah, I kinda agree. It seems true that he never really got caught up in drugs, which would have been SO easy in the club culture-- and also the bodybuilding scene of the 80s-90s. I had just moved to LA in those years, and all those dudes were amped on roids, speed, coke. OK maybe not ALL, but it was far from wholesome!
And yet the statement was probably very true. Men and women are wired differently, and cheating is very different between the sexes. For dudes it's just a nut. The man the woman fucks is the man she loves deep down. She gives him the gift of her physical intimacy, which is reserved for only the most important man in her life. The woman the man marries and buys a house for and works a 60 hour a week job to take care of is the woman he loves. He gives her the gift of his time, his resources, and his children, which is reserved for only the most important woman in his life. Sex to men is just a nut. We fuck anyone we don't care. But we DO care who we allow into our lives, move in with, marry, and raise a family with
@@xrendezv0usx and the women who are wired "differently" than your stereotype are just nymphos, then? Are you saying that its okay for men to lie to their women in order to keep them giving their "gift"? Is disassociation a trait in men that should be coddled because it's 'natural'? Does a man ever gain maturity in your worldview, or is he always damaged?
@@tvtitlechampion3238 ... I don't know if they're nymphos. I just know that sex means different things to men and women. And no I didn't say that it's okay for men to lie. Personally I think lying is weak and low level. A man values his time. It is precious to me. I've had sex with women I wouldn't want to spend the whole weekend with. A woman values her sexual intimacy. Girls will spend the whole weekend with some dude who's in her friend zone, and she will never fuck him. Then when the "just friends" guy is done taking her to the movies and buying her dinner and goes back to his house, she calls Brad to come over and blow her back out. Which man does she value more? The one she spent the weekend with, or the man she fucked? And what about the man in our example. Who does he value? The woman he fucked, or the woman he spent his whole weekend with? I don't mean to offend, but we are animals and reality is what it is. If I'm wrong you explain it to me
Westerners and the imaginary terms they come up with! you know in the east and in the most parts of the world we don't have words like Narcissm, etc- your society label's people with such terms to keep them in a certain behviour lane. If you dare to not conform to the powers to be they label you with these imaginary terms they just create to keep you in check.
I think the women are partly to blame for that. I suspect also deep down there is self-loathing. We did not get a lot of it in the interview, but his father sounded violent towards his mother and was probably not great to him either.
He could’ve broken that toxic cycle & “taught” himself to be a better person. What did he do for decades instead? He enjoyed mistreating people (specifically vulnerable broken girls), at his own free will for dirty money.
I was in the game in Vegas for three years and while I never worked for Fadi, I knew two girls who did. They said he was a decent guy but not as benevolent to his girls as he claims here. No violence or any street pimp bs but he could be tyrannical and intimidating when it suited him and he certainly didn't do a 50/50 split.
@@Charlie_Ses I regret staying in it longer than I should have. You get addicted to easy money and it's hard to get out when you don't have anything to go to. But other than that, no, I don't regret it all.
@beverly ducharme Wow. As a man it seems a crazy way to make a living, men physically couldn't do it so it seems impossible. I never understand how women can do that work and not mind it (some of them). I hope you are making a good life for yourself afterwards anyway, gl.
@@Charlie_Ses There are men who do it but it's different for women. It's rough if you're a girl on the street pulling eight or ten tricks a night but I seldom did more than 10 dates a week if that because the agency I worked for was top end and paid well (not as well as Fadi tho). Still, it required some dissociation and over time that's not healthy. I'm married now and run a small but thriving (and boringly legal--lol--) online business with my husband. Live is good, thanks for asking.
I slept over this interview and somehow I felt quite depressed waking up in the morning, knowing that our world is filled quite a lot with such a degree of heartless interaction. Yes, it looks cool to be rich and powerful, and it looks that men can have all they want as long as there is money. But truly, all arise from pain and recreates it on a greater scale- whether the (young) girls freely choose this kind of way to make money or not.
@Mimi I agree! Everyone in this comment section is being snowed! He's absolutely fluffing the factors of his life. People are so gullible. It's good to see at least one person who sees his bullcrap.
Imagine if he put this much effort into a legit business. He would still have his hard earned money. I feel sorry for his ex girlfriend and her child. She didn’t even know his real name.
Lol no he wouldn't. What business model allows you a high product revenue with virtually zero exspenses. 7 days a week. A product that never needs to be replaced or restocked but will always have a constant high demand. I'll lwait
677htg hgbn from a business point of view you are very right. I think he could had been a success and something else, but this is the pay he chose. He comes across like a regular guy in his 50’s with out all the flash of a street pimp.
@@FrenchSaladMac The product does need to be replaced. Only he doesn't bear the costs. It's after the women are burned out and traumatized that they pay the price. They get depressed, do drugs, or fall into abusive relationships with a "rescuer". He makes all the cash off the woman, while she's the one who bears the cost a business that damages her. He uses them up and then spits them out. And given that women still dont' get equal pay, are sexually harrassed on the job, and are discriminated against, there's always a fresh face in need of rent or with a dream. He profits of women's oppression, and oppresses them further.
"Easy money is the hardest money to make." B.S. Legit money is the hardest money to make, every criminal knows that. He said it himself, 200-1M take home, try doing that legit, hence why he kept coming back. The curse of the honest man is his conscience, this fellow clearly does not have one, hence why he is successful ! Most gangsters say the only man they respect is the common man, the working stiff, the family man... they have the hardest job of all, one they could never do !!
It doesn't even make sense, because it's a contradiction in itself. It sounds nice at first like a lot of these stupid quotes, but once you start thinking about it, it's so dumb.
It doesn't even make sense, because it's a contradiction in itself. It sounds nice at first like a lot of these stupid quotes, but once you start thinking about it, it's so dumb.
I don't think you got it. It sounds like he means that illegal money is easier but brings different problems in the future. He's not the most eloquent person in the world but I thought it was pretty clear.
Jay Love you are so right. From a illegitimate kid selling weed to a middle age real estate investor. It is harder to make legal $. But I won't go to jail. This guy is a criminal trying to be and act legit. And he may not be breaking any laws but IMHO opinion he wants the easy $. Nothing worth having is easy.
lol I think you missed the point here bud, it’s not about the money. He means that even though the money comes quickly, the problems and situations caused by making it in the long run end up making your life overall more difficult.
So he takes the moral high ground to stand up to his father beating his mother as a kid, but ends up a man selling off woman to be abused by men. Apple didn't fall far from the tree, the circle is complete.
@@streetracervti perhaps they should have utilized their university experience and time in an ethos and discipline that would allow them to actually obtain a vocation that would facilitate employment. do we really need another strong independent angry feminist gender studies major selling pussy?
Usually when people say they have a good childhood is because they were taught that they are just being too sensitive etc.... my childhood was fucked up as well but if I tried telling that to my mom she would say "Get over it etc "
He destroyed that poor woman’s life. Imagine the trauma to her 8 year old child, and he smiles about her mugshot being next to his in the paper... Men like him make me feel like dating isn’t even worth it.
I carry lots of guilt about the pain and suffering I cause both my X and her daughter...I have to live with that daily.. thank you so much for watching...stay healthy, happy and safe..
@@patricegriffin6063 it's amazing how many inocent people get hurt because of money and material things. What happens to all the bs you buy when you die?
One of the best interviews about this certain topic I have ever come across..........open and honest to a point of course without totally incriminating himself..... but you really get a understanding of what it is like to run a besiness like this on the scale that he ran it on.....mind blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a unbelievable outstanding interview.........
I am studying pre-law + working to gain my national paralegal certification with hopes to reform the laws surrounding sex work/workers as a whole, and I must say, of all the podcast/vlogs I have seen/viewed pertaining to the subjects of Sexual assault/abuse ,etc. , these interviews really prove a point of gaining the whole story and understanding not only why sex work is such a vast industry but naming the perpetrators w/o censors and valuing society’s right to know predators(bc most of the time they are protected by our justice system). Thank you for all of the incredible and moving work that you do.
@@wilpriBecause 1)women don't want sex without attachment or 2) if they did, it's available free. The saying about prostitution is that a man doesn't pay her to stay, he pays her to leave. Men value no strings attached sex, women don't.
He's running CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE in which he pays them a healthy annual salary every week. Are you also concerned about the health coverage of drug smugglers, and bookies?
@@jetaboveclouds what did he do wrong? He's right that it should be legal, drugs too. I didnt know it was possible to diagnose someone so accurately based off an interview like this. Maybe you're right, but I see a lot of assumptions in these comments
@@jetaboveclouds then what has he done wrong? Surely an evaluation interview would be a lot different to this one here. Is sociopathy even a diagnosis or would it be ASPD.
This is probably the best interview of Machiavellianism I have ever seen. Clicked on the video with half interest, but once I realized what it really was I pulled up a chair and stayed a while. Amazing storytelling.
I don't think he fits the definition of machiavellianism. The definition usually means the person is dangerous and unsympathetic, completely narcissistic.... This guy sort of has ethical standards, I don't think that fits into a cold-hearted narcissist.
@janelleyharris5042 I'm sorry you are so confused and easily fooled by this predator. His supposed ethical standards are systems he put in place to sustain his ability to exploit vulnerable young girls with absolutely no empathy . It is absolutely apparent that he is a Narcissist and dangerous. Wake the f
@@MohammedHassan-ht3sm ...Okay, I will give you one. For example, he claims that his girlfriend/fiancee, the dentist, did NOT know about his prostitution business. However, he mentioned that all of those sex apartments were ALL in her name. Wouldn't any normal person wonder, " Why is my boyfriend making me rent theses numerous apartments in my name ?" You don't think that is weird. They both live in a giant multi million dollar home together, and he rents all these apartments under her name. However, he did the right thing because why should 2 people go down on a charge if 1 person will do. That is why he took the ENTIRE blame.
I had to let my student loans default because I WASN'T making 6 figures right after graduation, as many led me to believe. I broke my back trying to make the monthly payments for nearly 100K in loans, but it eventually became impossible. Maybe I should have considered being a prostitute. 🤔
@@cactuscallie5090 Honestly, I now believe that most universities know that many of their students (female and male) are paying their way through school via some kind of on-line "prostitution" and they're perfectly okay with it. Academia is a rather narcissistic environment, sadly (not entirely, but personality pathology is present and overt in some instances). I think the males WANT to keep it that way because it keeps a steady stream of sugar babies and live cam girls (and boys) on their laptop screens for spank material. Just ick! I'm sorry you've had such a struggle. So many people struggle paying those loans or default altogether and just give up because they can barely pay rent.
The thought of the women doing this to pay off their student loans really sucks becz at the end of the day she ends up with her husband after all this escorting Nd she will never tell him she needs to take tht to her grave and this doesn't just happen with escorting it happens to celebrities aswel women seem to have to sleep their way to wer they wna be
@@herschellebenting7558 How interesting that the problem (in your mind) is not the fact that was damaging to their physical, mental and spiritual health, but that they may without this information from their spouse. Your empathy is for the man....and seemingly entirely absent for what the females had to endure to pay off school debt while being able to afford their rent/food/car expenses. smh That's telling....
This is his book. Madam Suzanne: The Mastermind Behind Orange County Brothels
By Fadi Chaiban
EXACTLY
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well, everyone is entitled to their opinion...I have no reason to lie...with all due respect, I have zero ego...I am a very confident man, I believe in myself, so maybe to you, I came across as full of myself...confidence are cocky are two different animals.....stay healthy and safe...
@@realmadamsuzanne you make 0 sense with everything you say and continue to say. You prey on the weak and vulnerable
@@realmadamsuzanne Honestly, you are a good looking man who seemingly worked hard on his body. You also seem to have done well for yourself with regards to school and employment. Especially for having left home at such a young age. So yes, for sure you have a few reasons to be confident. And i ALMOST believed you on the "zero ego part" until i read through some of the comments and you are responding to a LOT of them. If that does not scream "ego" then clearly I have forgotten the definition. I have never seen anyone comment this much on their own video. And like you said, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so that was mine. Stay healthy and safe :-)
It's amazing how people's own reality is so distorted. Having a good childhood and leaving home at 13 because dad abused mom don't go together.
Exactly I was like huh 🤔
He wanted to hang out with the thugs, don’t follow the rules, that’s my take on it.
So true same thing and age and family affairs happened with me !
I think he meant his childhood, not the teen years..
@@EmiCa68 If you have to leave home at 13, the same stuff was going on in your childhood.
I’d be interested in seeing an interview with one of the girls who worked for him.
Plenty of those from mark. Not his girls. But. Street girls. I used to be on the streets. Rough life
@@JayDillDrumssounds like his girls weren't on "the street"
Me too..
yeah but would be interesting to compare if what he's saying is total bullshit or not. I think that's what the OP was referring to. @@JayDillDrums
The girls never talk. Too afraid of consequences. It's how Andrew Tate is seemingly getting away with it. I despise him.
And no sex work is anything other than seedy and despite what he says, I think he's making out it was all glamour, I bet that's 50% at best
No one with a good childhood leaves home at 13.
Crazy, the common theme is that a lot of these people had some sort of bad family dynamic. Really shows what a decently health family relationship will do
Seriously 😂
Right??? Good childhood but had to leave because his mom got beat...
He is so manipulative I would take everything he says with a grain of salt
This guy is a big fat liar. If he could hide his true identity from his ex, just imagine what he's done to other people. He's a crook.
Because he's the one telling his story, it's safe to assume the real story is about 40% - 50% seedier than he presents it.
I was thinking like 75% seedier.
I found myself thinking pretty much the same thing.
Agreed. I smell i bit of human trafficking as well.
ikr? how does he even go from amateur bodybuilder probably making close to no money (since he said before he had stopped working for people already at that time) to owning a club?
How do you get seedier than running brothels, selling women for sex? He straight up admitted that.
Had a great childhood. 2 minutes later he’s leaving home at 13
Lol
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People never tell the full FULL Story
Because of a very abusive father 😂🤣
Lmfaoooooo
He was really good at glamorizing his business, this is what greed will do. Now i want to hear the girls stories lol
thats gonna be so interesting lol
you will be hearing the girls stories on my podcast, soon...I can't wait, its gonna be awesome....glad you watched, thank you for your time....I really appreciate you....stay healthy happy and safe @realmadamsuzanne
Me too. There’s always more to the story, there’s his version, story A,the ladies under his employ’s versions, stories B, and what is the actual truth, story C. without hearing both sides of the story it’s impossible to get to story C (the truth) which has the most value and relevance.
@@realmadamsuzanne if they cleared 25 to 30 thousand a month i think it's a good job
@@cleocatra1242 yea you know there are many things they have not told him that went on in those rooms.
He nailed the brothel owner look.
LOL same tought
Rooster looking lol
Based on ?
@@RK-su4hs His looks ? 😂😂😂😂
Roided up guy with greeeaasy hair
"Easy money is the hardest money to make." Great quote!
I know Freddy! If he said it?? You can take it to the bank. What you see is what you get.
Easy for him.
Its the hardest money to keep. there is big difference.
wouldn't say hardest , id say with great risk comes greater reward
I’ve heard this. “The easy road is deceptive “.
"I hate liars."
Doesn't tell his girlfriend of three years his real name.
🤣
Facts!
I wish I could tell the real truth but I'd rather be called a liar here than risk someone else's life...one day the whole truth will come out..I'll just leave it at that
Hypocrisy is a basic human condition, we all have blind spots. It takes a lot of reflection on our words & actions to be aware of them. I've done it, I was disturbed & angered by my self- analysis. It's not fun work
@@alwayslookingatself you are spot on..and as you know it is, and always will be, an ongoing process. Thank you so much for sharing your enlightened reflection..happy new year
He described how many District Attorneys and the criminal justice system works. After over 20 years in a Law Enforcement career I came to the conclusion that there is no real justice. I retired totally jaded and disillusioned with the system.
You end up working for people(Upper Level L.E. and the Public) that HATE you! It's crazy!
Duh, Trump is our GOP frontrunner and a self confessed "grabs women by the pussy with no consequence" guy. We're fucked.
THAT was your takeaway?
I understand how you can feel that way. ❤
I blew 60K in grad school, only to have the same realization and walk away from my grand career plan. I wanted no part in the machine that just eats people who are usually victims themselves. Poverty, drugs, addiction, and mental illness are what makes "criminals." There's real evil out there and it's rarely skulking in a dark alleys or stalking lone women in parking lots. They hold public offices and are titans of business. I'd have been another cog in imprisoning people that have limited access to opportunities, which in many cases they either have no ideas they even exist or have been trained to believe there's no "place for" them and pointless to even consider, never mind pursue.
Hearing someone talk this calmly about running a brothel is nothing short of pathological.
He has no soul.
Scary how disconnected some can be.
Everybody is pathological. What the fuck do you think it would sound like to hear an interview with John D Rockefeller or Bill Gates or Albert Bourla or Warren Buffett or Anthony Fauci or Madeline Albright?
99% of his customers were married. What is that admonition about glass houses again?
His description of his leaving home at 13 was 30 seconds. His description of his orange county mansion party is 5 minutes and still going
I don't care for the childhood BS i usually skip over it
I just wonder what happened to his mom after he left.
"Great childhood"
He's not at therapy lol, underbelly stories mostly cover their adulthood and hardships around it. He did mention a bunch of other stuff about his childhood which you flew over.
Honestly he probably just didn't care enough about his childhood
I learned a long time ago to avoid this type of person like the plague. Scary how many people get conned into this lifestyle.
This channel is a gem.
The right interviews, the right questions, and a naked eye on the people that we don t always see.
Excellent summary
Bunch of dirtbags lol
I have been non stop watching these videos at work for 4 days. So amazing to have this kinda deep content. Awesome job Mark!
Yeah show your employer whose boss 😂
I've been doing the same
.im.a pipefitter so I keep headphones In and listen while im.working. occasionally look at my phone to.see whay the person looks like.
I do the same. I’ve watched mostly all his videos. I drive a concrete mixer around my city. So having my phone on my dash in a phone mount is a must. These are my escape
Can you watch videos at your workplace? are they hiring?
😂😂😂😂😂me too🤭
Incredible case study of narcissism. SWU, you do much more interesting work than I thought.
These "Soft White Underbelly" videos are superb. They deserve some type of award. Fascinating!
"I was never into drugs: except for weed + ectasy and i sold coke "
It's pretty funny when people say things like that! But I think he meant that he experimented once or twice but it didn't turn into a habit. I also have smoked cigarettes for a very brief time in my life as well as tried edibles but I don't consider myself a drug user or a smoker.
marybelarenas64 compared to the amount of drugs he was probably around all day everyday, weed/ecstasy once or twice is NOTHING lol
Those aren’t that bad tbh
🤣😂🤣🤣😂
@@melissaredhead6000 Thats what he meant when he said he smoke weed once and Xtasy twice but i think the ubderlying implication was that he doesnt even like both of those which are relatively harmless compared to heroin, coke, crack, etc
Sounds llike the dude's true passion is interior design
Underrated comment 😅
😅😅😅
I suspect the same of Andrew Tate.
@@badfeng what?
"I had gotten myself used to a certain lifestyle, which is a trap"
That is the most important line in this whole episode, because there is such a thing as "enough money".
Contentment is key, and I love the fact that he realised it
Actually that is important but not for the reason you think. He alleviated himself of guilt he fell in a "trap"
Yeah well if there is such a thing as "enough money," I haven't hit it yet.
Contentment is good but need to keep growing
Wealth is one more dollar than needed. Even if needs take a million dollars.
@jaymyers7900. You will once you find the difference between your needs and wants.
Daaaaaaaamnnn this man can talk! I forgot I was listening.
LMAOO
Yeah, lots of stories. Wonder how his real life was.
Ms. H Johnson wuz u Hi? ;-)
lmfaooo. 😭😭😭
He scares me bc you can tell he’s trying to be charming but then he makes comments like ‘I was dating her so she wouldn’t leave the show’ or ‘I was setting her up’ and you can tell he’s very cold and calculated
I agree. That and his physique, he must be terrifying IRL
Exactly. The one that got me was, I had a girlfriend at the time and she didn't know my real name... WHAT?! Then he's like, I was doing the family thing. My girlfriend had an 8yo. Yet he kept saying that his girlfriend lived in 'said' neighborhood, not that WE lived there. THEN he says that he had all this money in a storage and he was ready to bolt. Sadly, leaving his poor girlfriend behind that could never track him down because she doesn't even know his name. Not to mention leaving the poor little boy I'm sure he was playing daddy to. He was completely living a double life...scary
He literally says right after talking about telling his girlfriend to sleep with the celebrity that "everybody has a price, right? *yuk, yuk, yuk*.
That's pimpin 😮😢😊
no shit. i got another astonishing thing for you. he is a pimp you know? lol
*It all goes back to childhood, people. EVERYTHING!*
It really seems like it. That could be the subtitle to this channel or Mark's work here. The analogy of how you form a plant is similar. Amazing.
I worry about that. Then after listening to soo many of these iv started to think some people will find a reason to go down a path. For example one kid says they are from a good family but were poor. The next says their parents worked alot so they had everything but weren't around alot.
This is more of a question that anything else, nobody I know is interested in this. I don't write everyone off like this at all. Just wonder if it is a factor for a good percentage?
and there are demographics with .77 attrition rates. thats four out of five broken families, mostly from city demographics. other dems are bad too, like one out of two or .5, but the 4/5 is so sad if you care about lives, ironically
Incorrect
Wow, you clearly don't have much of an education do you.
After looking at his friends list on Facebook I would say he is definitely still in the business. Addictions never go away.
Exactly. He said “We don’t do that”
Student loans are the real P.I.M.P. at this level of the game.
Entrapment. That's pretty much the bottom line of credit in general!!
@@thatsthejobbb8587 Word.
FACTS!!!💯✔👀 Student loans... Modern Day Slavery
Maybe Biden will actually cut us a break. Ill believe it when I see it
Can’t lie. I’ve definitely had some unsavory ideas cross my mind to alleviate my own student debt. Never acted on it, but definitely watched while some of my girlfriends get themselves debt-free being naked on the internet or escorting. I just didn’t have it in me. Five years after graduating business school i am still a waitress and still in a ton of debt.
One thing I noticed about these pimps is that they LOVE to talk! Which I guess is a skill they need to recruit and keep.
and this is why they don't want the girls they pimp to talk.. ever notice... that's first rule they teach you.. don't talk.. look at the ground when spoken to.... fk outta here!!!.. I swear no Smart chick needs a pimp.... the ones that do are on drugs....I can manage my own body 🖐️
@@wildwaymonee8o8 not all girls who sell pussy are on drugs.
Also they lie.
@@liggmabawls5634 I’ll be willing to bet 98% do
@@zi787 prove it
He’s very good at glamorizing the lifestyle. Almost had me for a min
IKR!!!🤣
Remember pimps are some of the world's best salesman (and the most dangerous).
@@jd-rm4ez 108 other people would say otherwise. But go off...
In all honesty he seems like a good guy. He didn't force anyone into anything. He didn't beat them. He never lied he didn't rip them off. He didn't rape them or abuse them and he didn't get them addicted to drugs. He was not recruiting underage girls. As far as I'm concerned it should be legal. What I hate are those pimps who use & abuse underage girls not this guy. Unfortunately with all that money he didn't know when to stop till he was caught. Which is the trick the devil plays on people.
@@jd-rm4ez I never stated that this was a fact lmao. You're reaching just to try to sound intelligent....this is the internet. People get to state their opinions and you get to disagree. And I still get to call you wrong because that is MY OPINION. Maybe you're on the wrong website?
Would have enjoyed hearing him speak directly about his feelings on having financially and emotionally hurting the dentist and her child, in addition to seriously disrupting her professional life. Not the facts but feelings. This can be how we lose ourselves in the midst of such drama. 2 people who brought him into their lives were blindsided through no fault of their own.
Generally people who have empathy for others don't do things that harm others, so they don't sell sex. So don't expect to find it in someone who does. Some do know what to say, and can appear to have remorse, but that's just something they know others expect and is a manipulation. He's probably a pretty good salesman with superficial charm.
"and she was a Vegas girl to begin with" is the start of a steep moral slope that doesn't end
Have U been to Vegas?
"Easy Money is the hardest money to make".
A word.
Hardest to keep in your pocket
easy to make but, it's the hardest to keep.
Hardest to keep. Burns a hole right through these fools pockets.
@@JohnDoe-pt7xx 1000% true!!!!
Can we acknowledge mark? How does he get interviews with people like that? Mark is amazing! Thank you! I hope your go fund me page is successful so you can continue your work.
Some people love to hear themselves talk.
SUPER FACTS!!! I want to see his interview meeting all these different yet memorizing people! He has to have a story or 2 !!
But just approaching people in these lifestyles and getting them to sit down is crazy. Idk Mark’s background but he def knows something we don’t.
I've said before even though I do joke around sometimes on here,"I respect the hell out of Mark and I think what he's doing is a really good thing for people to see and the bigger his channel is and the more people see it the more people who have been shielded from things of the street, and all the other types of stuff he addresses,the more of those people who see this will understand and realize just how bad life can really be for some people.Especially those who had horrible traumatic home lives while growing up,or in relationships that totally destroyed their lives,or teenage rebellion that cause them to become really bad addicts.He is doing a service to the world.Thanks Mark we appreciate & love ya man"
Nat S yes props to Mark and his connections. Obviously Mark is on the up and up and trusted
Just discovered this channel. Can’t recommend it enough. No hype. No preaching. No celebrity BS. Just unvarnished confessions from ground zero of American pathology. You wanna know who we really are behind the designer sunglasses, the lip filler, the pumped up muscles, the [fill in your preferred stage prop]? This is the straight dope.
I love it when people say "no, I don't do drugs, they're bad." and then proceed to say "oh but yeah I used to sell them."
Well, they're selling and not using. A quite smart choice.
They're not responsible for their clients' choices.
Or "Oh but I sell human beings." Drugs are an inanimate product; women are not. The idea that drugs and their users are dirty or evil while men who buy sex are not needs to die.
Jay z on letterman: I used drugs, but I didn't use drugs
What’s your point.
Drugs are dam good money. And your employers using drugs will always bring drama. So it makes sense.
Fascinating how much money one can make when morality isn’t an issue
Not quite. As he said, easy money is the hardest money to get. With his ability to promote his business and manage operations, and work ethic, he could have probably succeeded just as much or more in a regular business, but his life trajectory made it so he didn't project himself far enough into the future to realise a legitimate long term ambition.
Nothing immoral about it if nobody is hurt
@@testboga5991 are you new to this channel? ❤️
illegal money not legit i will always give a burger flipper more respect but at the same time i wont ever bash anyones hustle just my own opinion
Some people are willing to work at a fast food restaurant and make minimum wage while the owner makes a ton more. Other people are willing to have sex for small amounts of money while a third party profits from it. Maybe they SHOULDN’T be willing, but that’s their choice, not the person running the brothel’s.
This guy, I left home at 13 finished high school went to UMASS and managed a restaurant. 12 minutes later oh yeah I sold coke that's where I got the money to start the clubs. LMAO
Ikr!
thats very common. Wall street guys are all top college students, and they ALL do and/or sell drugs
I definitely smell an indictment for sure
Like wtf! How you forget to mention THAT PART! 😂😂😂
Interesting story
Mark, I was gifted an autographed copy of your book for my birthday. Can’t wait to receive it!
I see a guy and right away know he's somebody that has to be avoided at all costs
Roided up guy with greasy hair? Naah hes probably a sweetheart
He is also a conman. Search his name. Fadi Chaibon. Conned old ladies.
@@3117ism I'm not surprised to hear that. I commented above I wonder how much other BS he has spinned, aside from his "great childhood "(where he left home at 13 bc his Dad was abusing his Mother!) He just seems like a compulsive BS artist & total sleaze bag.
Nowadays that’s just about any guy.
The ROIDERS are too SCARED to come off of the STEROIDS because they would LOSE all their "size" and "strength"!
This just proves that the ONLY difference is the STEROIDS between someone that uses and not uses! The difference is NOT because they lift weights, eat and sleep. People that lift WITHOUT STEROIDS do that!
You are NOT FOOLING us!
Lift weights WITHOUT STEROIDS and let's see how "big" & "strong" you REALLY are!
Stay natural buddy!
he treats women like his dad treated his mother.
Yes exactly, very sad.
Correct.
He seems to treat his women pretty well based on what he describes here.
Jojo Bee they don’t see it that way.
Finn Smith hmm this is an assumption you have.... no proof to back it that can be found it this interview
How to say you're mob affiliated without saying you're mob affiliated:
1. Grew up in italian neighborhood in the 70s and 80s
2. Hung around older italian guys
3. Got kicked out of home at 13
4. Skip a lot of years (selling coke;)
5. Suddenly a body builder can move to California and start a business
There are some crucial gaps in that story. 🤔 I mean just the fact that he could operate in Vegas in the 80s means he must have been connected.
yup he is a bit of a jerk
He sold coke to fund his first business. Open your ears ✌️
@@jonathanmargetts7053 and how did that work out for him? Like I said he is a bit of a jerk
@@karenpearson8916 Maybe you're the jerk...
The most standout point, in my opinion, was his dedication to not being a rat/snitching.
" I treat the girls really well, sometimes I give them 50%" lol such generous man
😅😅😅
Mark is such a good interviewer! Soft little interventions, all the right ones.
He could improve some
@@teresaalford5978 In what way?
Yeah, he let's them talk and knows what questions the audience will want to hear.
I've been watching this channel for awhile and I think he's gotten a lot better at interviewing actually...
Não porra. I was thinking the exact opposite.
......"she was a Vegas girl to begin with"....what I get from this statement is she was of no human value to him,she was an accessory
That's not what he meant. There's a mentality in Vegas that these type of industries are more acceptable.
you are reading too much into it. it was just a subtle but obvious way to say she had prostituited herself mroe than once before and has no issue fucking for money.
YES!!!!!
No it means she most likely has done this before. And if not escorting... dancing. It’s the hustle.
$20k over night.
The pattern of abusive neglectful childhood is always the core.
Yeh.. once you have seen a woman be abused in your home from a young age it does something to the mind. Even if at the time you know it was wrong.
Yes I feel sorry for the clients of these girls....these male clients were surely abused
Running a brothel isn't a problem. The man is blessed because of that childhood
I think males need to be taught something as they are growing up to help them treat women better as adults.
But we don't all become hookers, junkies or pimps. Some of us rise above & evolve. Use the pain to be a success.
A really interesting interview. This really meets the qualifications for “Soft white underbelly”. Appreciate the honesty in this conversation.
“I don’t know if you remember the 80’s...”
Spoken like someone who lived fast through the 80’s.
He also had to explain what the rating scale of 1 to 10 is. He throws in obvious things that everyone is aware of to make him sound honest and credible. It’s an entire technique.
It's so sad to see that everything revolves around money yet he seems like the poorest guy in the world. Money does not equal wealth.
I’ve learned, money buys convenience.
Wealth is in your mind
dirty money dirty sad life
Why does he seem like the poorest guy in the world to you?
Shut your flapper
he seems like a selfish, greedy, talkative, narcissist
P.O.S
he provided an essential service
@@MrHonification how is it essential, he is exploiting people and he’s proud of his actions
Sounded like a solid dude to me.
Good men don't become pimps and brothel owners.
What a nice guy to let them leave before they passed the point of no return
He’s basically a philanthropist
Lol right
He just wants to make the world happier come on now
@@erinvendetti5812 did you work for him when you were younger?
😂 lol, on point
@@janelleyharris5042 i’m sure he could put you to work for the lower end clients.
He’s an engaging storyteller that’s for sure.
Gemini M yep my exact comment too! I could listen all day lol!
He's high on narcissism
You'd have to be in order to get young women and teens to be prostitutes.
@@Cynnas Haha he said he didn't allow any girl under 21.
Very 🇱🇧 of him
He’s not so honest, he lied to his girlfriend for years. He even lied to her about what his real name was. Can you imagine how she felt when she learned the truth? I would have been devastated.
Not to mention everything she went through and lost when they involved her in his mess. She was a honest, hardworking woman in her 50s and lost her dental practice Bc of him. He’s not such a great guy as he portrays hisself to be.
@@cindyfitzgerald4500 Not everybody are saints. We just do what we can to live how we want. Can't always be the nice guy in this business.
He didn't do anything to her in the manner of which you speak. He kept her safe and far away from his business, that's the best thing he could do. She wouldn't have gotten dragged in if the pigs were right on their information. All those pig wanted was to drag every one down with him, taking all the props for them selves and making them selves look like heroes. Her reputation might have been compromised in the moment but she was eventually cleared because of course Freddy kept her away from it all.
@@inev5341 Can I comment now .... pleeez Mommy??
Inev I already told someone else I over reacted I wasn’t meaning to spread hate. It just really caught me off guard when I heard that she didn’t even know his real name and about her age and going through all that.
He 's just an honest guy (who just happened to lie to his girlfriend about what he was doing for 3 years).
And who he really was,
Putting words into his mouth. He said honesty was his business style. He didn't use that terminology about his personal life, which we didn't get to know much about. Also, how honest do you expect a person to be about what they do if what they do is illegal in their country.
& hates drugs but sold coke to get the down payment for his club & has & still does anabolic steroids clearly 😂😆
I’m sure she was innocent
@@John_Connor556 😂
Mark. Long time listener. Love your channel.
At first I thought I’ll never get through 59 minutes of this guy. I thought he was completely FOS but after googling him everything changed. What a fascinating story. Incredible. Thanks for another great video Mark.
Great education to listen to. This is excellent to listen to. Wish I was much younger than I am now. Old age is fucked!
I have been to a lot of restaurants. I never considered getting the manager’s approval to ask out a waitress.
Restaurants are kinda different than strip clubs :p
You should never ask out a waitress at work. That’s weird and makes us extremely uncomfortable. You think it’s okay to do that while someone is at work? In a customer service business, where we are supposed to keep customers happy ?
@@kadeelacayo4806 slow aren’t you?
Lol i love each reply to this comment 🥲
@@kadeelacayo4806 Why so butthurt?
Mark, your channel is top notch!
He certainly romanticizes his life/lifestyle. If you look him up online it tells quite a different version of his story. He's a very good Con man.
@Adrian Guynn
Yes! He's so full of crap and a definite con-man. Most of the comments are about how great a storyteller he is, and what an interesting life he has; people are so dumb - can't even see what's right in front of them.
It's nice to see there are a few people who see through his bull.
He is similar to DONNY TRUMP.
What's the difference in his other story?
@@lisahinton9682 What's difference does he tell in his other story?
@adrianguynn5807 I looked him up online and his arrest article literally corroborates everything he was saying in the interview.
This was such a good interview. THANKYOU!!!
'imma be honest with you' said so many times means most things that come out of his mouth are probably lies. geez I feel bad for his gf and kid that didn't even know his real name for 3 years
YES, I AGREE.....HOW CAN SOOOOO MANY PEOPLE BE FASCINATED BY THIS BS.....DON'T GET IT!
@Love Bug l am sure all these thumbs up & making this man a damned hero are men. Who need their egos stroked all the time, also so many women DONT orgasm because they don't know what they are doing!!! 😞
Fascinating interview. It’s dark, narcissistic and complex. We often hear the story from the girls point of view...so this was different.
fascinating...are u kidding me....extremely boring and superficial
This guy comes across as so likeable, but I agree deep down he is probably quite narcissistic, the bodybuilding, the superficial relationships, using and disposing of multiple girlfriends, the emphasis on lifestyle. I gather Navada has some counties where prostition is legal, not sure why he could'nt have operated from there. He is right when he says the law is ridiculous, legal prostitution is much safer for everyone involved and it can be properly regulated like New Zealand and Germany.
He's a narcissistic P.O.S.!
He is no doubt an abusive piece of shit. That doesn't stop this from being an interesting interview to analyze the reasoning and rhetoric of such a person.
good men are hard to find
"Easy money is the hardest money to make." - Truth.
Amen
Yes!
I like to call it hard money. It’s hard now
Trafficking people should never be legal.
Because it was in fact.......trafficking!!!
I appreciate your ability to just stay in the silence and just let them sit. They more than often continue to talk again unveiling more stories. Good job! And as always, so fascinating! Kepp up the great work!
“I hate drugs, never done drugs”. Next sentence “smoked weed once, done ecstasy a couple times, sold coke”
In his mind “never did” means “never was addicted” lmao. Like no bruh YOU DID DRUGS!
Well that’s not really doing drugs. Of course he tried weed once and did ecstasy twice but that isn’t much at all. Considering he’s telling a story decades from his prime. He considers “doing drugs” as like a weekly or daily thing, an addiction.
He seems to be full of those contradictory statements: I had a great childhood/had to leave at 13 cause my dad was abusive, hate drugs/did them and sold them, hate liars/lie about my name for 3 years.... and the list goes on.
@@chowell1451 Yeah, I kinda agree. It seems true that he never really got caught up in drugs, which would have been SO easy in the club culture-- and also the bodybuilding scene of the 80s-90s. I had just moved to LA in those years, and all those dudes were amped on roids, speed, coke. OK maybe not ALL, but it was far from wholesome!
@@chowell1451 agreed
"They all loved their wives unconditionally" - this made me fall off my chair.
Why?
And yet the statement was probably very true.
Men and women are wired differently, and cheating is very different between the sexes. For dudes it's just a nut.
The man the woman fucks is the man she loves deep down. She gives him the gift of her physical intimacy, which is reserved for only the most important man in her life.
The woman the man marries and buys a house for and works a 60 hour a week job to take care of is the woman he loves. He gives her the gift of his time, his resources, and his children, which is reserved for only the most important woman in his life.
Sex to men is just a nut. We fuck anyone we don't care. But we DO care who we allow into our lives, move in with, marry, and raise a family with
@@xrendezv0usx and the women who are wired "differently" than your stereotype are just nymphos, then? Are you saying that its okay for men to lie to their women in order to keep them giving their "gift"? Is disassociation a trait in men that should be coddled because it's 'natural'? Does a man ever gain maturity in your worldview, or is he always damaged?
@@tvtitlechampion3238 ...
I don't know if they're nymphos. I just know that sex means different things to men and women.
And no I didn't say that it's okay for men to lie. Personally I think lying is weak and low level.
A man values his time. It is precious to me. I've had sex with women I wouldn't want to spend the whole weekend with.
A woman values her sexual intimacy. Girls will spend the whole weekend with some dude who's in her friend zone, and she will never fuck him.
Then when the "just friends" guy is done taking her to the movies and buying her dinner and goes back to his house, she calls Brad to come over and blow her back out.
Which man does she value more? The one she spent the weekend with, or the man she fucked?
And what about the man in our example. Who does he value? The woman he fucked, or the woman he spent his whole weekend with?
I don't mean to offend, but we are animals and reality is what it is. If I'm wrong you explain it to me
Lol who are you to say why and the thought process behind how ALL men and women cheat? Maybe that’s how it is for you. But obviously not for everyone.
This guy is one heck of a businessman. Should go into a totally legal business that interest him, he won't fail, because he won't give up.
Not enough money in legal businesses.
He has already failed. He just won’t change or admit it.
brothels are legal in Nevada... what are you talking about..
Brothel owner exploiting women, hardly anything to be proud of.
@@Abe-rz1nm same old story, people exploit other people and are admired for it
His level of narcissism is concerning. He really believe he’s a saviour to these girls.
Westerners and the imaginary terms they come up with! you know in the east and in the most parts of the world we don't have words like Narcissm, etc- your society label's people with such terms to keep them in a certain behviour lane. If you dare to not conform to the powers to be they label you with these imaginary terms they just create to keep you in check.
I think the women are partly to blame for that. I suspect also deep down there is self-loathing. We did not get a lot of it in the interview, but his father sounded violent towards his mother and was probably not great to him either.
mark i watch your videos everyday man. be safe out there 🙏💯
Me too idk how id be making it thru quarantine without his videos!!!!
@@LimoneneDaddy fr his videos make me appreciate life even more
He was never taught how to see women as a human being rather an object
I guess, but neither did any of the girls he hired.
But he did not make them do anything
I mean look how his dad treated his mom....not really a surprise.
He could’ve broken that toxic cycle & “taught” himself to be a better person.
What did he do for decades instead?
He enjoyed mistreating people (specifically vulnerable broken girls), at his own free will for dirty money.
Why would anyone?
I was in the game in Vegas for three years and while I never worked for Fadi, I knew two girls who did. They said he was a decent guy but not as benevolent to his girls as he claims here. No violence or any street pimp bs but he could be tyrannical and intimidating when it suited him and he certainly didn't do a 50/50 split.
How you you reflect back on having been on the game for 3 years? Do you regret it?
@@Charlie_Ses I regret staying in it longer than I should have. You get addicted to easy money and it's hard to get out when you don't have anything to go to. But other than that, no, I don't regret it all.
@beverly ducharme Wow. As a man it seems a crazy way to make a living, men physically couldn't do it so it seems impossible. I never understand how women can do that work and not mind it (some of them). I hope you are making a good life for yourself afterwards anyway, gl.
@@Charlie_Ses There are men who do it but it's different for women. It's rough if you're a girl on the street pulling eight or ten tricks a night but I seldom did more than 10 dates a week if that because the agency I worked for was top end and paid well (not as well as Fadi tho). Still, it required some dissociation and over time that's not healthy. I'm married now and run a small but thriving (and boringly legal--lol--) online business with my husband. Live is good, thanks for asking.
Lies
"the girls are always expendable", pretty much says it all about a pimp
Employees are almost always expendable.
I was reading this comment as he said that. So weird 😂
This guy is so full of shit 😂
That's almost all employers when referring to employees. Not exclusive to his business
yea in these fields that's all the girls are unfortunately just a few body parts that's why these fields are gross
This was one of the most interesting interviews by far
I slept over this interview and somehow I felt quite depressed waking up in the morning, knowing that our world is filled quite a lot with such a degree of heartless interaction. Yes, it looks cool to be rich and powerful, and it looks that men can have all they want as long as there is money. But truly, all arise from pain and recreates it on a greater scale- whether the (young) girls freely choose this kind of way to make money or not.
i love how he said he had a great childhood and then next breath he said he left home at 13. Graduated college by 18. Wow, fascinating story.
He speaks so slowly and clearly that you can put it on 2x speed and have no issues...
Is feels like there is more to the story and that he is fluffing it. I’d love to hear a story from someone who’s worked with/for him
Me 2.
Yes same
@Mimi
I agree! Everyone in this comment section is being snowed! He's absolutely fluffing the factors of his life. People are so gullible. It's good to see at least one person who sees his bullcrap.
Well, he gave such precise descriptions of one or two that they will be completely identifiable unfortunately.
It’s wilder than he’s already revealing!!!! You don’t know if you never been on that dark side of life.
I thought I wasn't gonna like this guy - but honestly he seems like such a great dude!
The discipline and moral integrity is really refreshing!
Imagine if he put this much effort into a legit business. He would still have his hard earned money. I feel sorry for his ex girlfriend and her child. She didn’t even know his real name.
Lol no he wouldn't. What business model allows you a high product revenue with virtually zero exspenses. 7 days a week. A product that never needs to be replaced or restocked but will always have a constant high demand. I'll lwait
677htg hgbn from a business point of view you are very right. I think he could had been a success and something else, but this is the pay he chose. He comes across like a regular guy in his 50’s with out all the flash of a street pimp.
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@@FrenchSaladMac The product does need to be replaced. Only he doesn't bear the costs. It's after the women are burned out and traumatized that they pay the price. They get depressed, do drugs, or fall into abusive relationships with a "rescuer". He makes all the cash off the woman, while she's the one who bears the cost a business that damages her.
He uses them up and then spits them out. And given that women still dont' get equal pay, are sexually harrassed on the job, and are discriminated against, there's always a fresh face in need of rent or with a dream. He profits of women's oppression, and oppresses them further.
@@realmadamsuzanne Stop. This video proves nothing 🤣
"Easy money is the hardest money to make." B.S. Legit money is the hardest money to make, every criminal knows that. He said it himself, 200-1M take home, try doing that legit, hence why he kept coming back. The curse of the honest man is his conscience, this fellow clearly does not have one, hence why he is successful ! Most gangsters say the only man they respect is the common man, the working stiff, the family man... they have the hardest job of all, one they could never do !!
It doesn't even make sense, because it's a contradiction in itself. It sounds nice at first like a lot of these stupid quotes, but once you start thinking about it, it's so dumb.
It doesn't even make sense, because it's a contradiction in itself. It sounds nice at first like a lot of these stupid quotes, but once you start thinking about it, it's so dumb.
I don't think you got it. It sounds like he means that illegal money is easier but brings different problems in the future. He's not the most eloquent person in the world but I thought it was pretty clear.
Jay Love you are so right. From a illegitimate kid selling weed to a middle age real estate investor.
It is harder to make legal $. But I won't go to jail.
This guy is a criminal trying to be and act legit. And he may not be breaking any laws but IMHO opinion he wants the easy $. Nothing worth having is easy.
lol I think you missed the point here bud, it’s not about the money. He means that even though the money comes quickly, the problems and situations caused by making it in the long run end up making your life overall more difficult.
A quick google search on this guy brings up a ton of complaints from people who he's scammed throughout the years. Not a good guy.
Not surprised at all. What douche!!
whats his full name
resistance militia Fadi Chaiban
Fadi Chaiban
Wowww
A muscle bound pimp with a heart of gold? This guy sounds too good to actually be true.
So he takes the moral high ground to stand up to his father beating his mother as a kid, but ends up a man selling off woman to be abused by men. Apple didn't fall far from the tree, the circle is complete.
Exactly!
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Maybe he thinks what he did is an improvement by comparison. I'm learning a lot from these interviews how relative morality can be. 🤷🏻♀️
Abused?
YES...ABSOLUTELY AGREE!
75% of his girls were paying student debt. let it sink in for a minute.
So he says. He's clearly not an honest man.
@@alicekranyk4173 he sure isnt but why would he lie about that?
@@streetracervti perhaps they should have utilized their university experience and time in an ethos and discipline that would allow them to actually obtain a vocation that would facilitate employment. do we really need another strong independent angry feminist gender studies major selling pussy?
@@GrottoGroveGroves yes, its their fault they fuck for money. fuck them.
It's not true, geez.
Usually when people say they have a good childhood is because they were taught that they are just being too sensitive etc.... my childhood was fucked up as well but if I tried telling that to my mom she would say "Get over it etc "
my mom loovvvesss to call me sensitive. pisses me off so bad.
My mom is the same way. It breaks my heart & makes me anxious. Sometimes I stop speaking to her for awhile.
@@violamcviolet2222 both of my parents are total disappointments. Boomers smh
Orange County couple accused of operating high-end brothel in Irvine apartments, Los Angeles Times, Feb 3, 2017
He destroyed that poor woman’s life. Imagine the trauma to her 8 year old child, and he smiles about her mugshot being next to his in the paper... Men like him make me feel like dating isn’t even worth it.
I carry lots of guilt about the pain and suffering I cause both my X and her daughter...I have to live with that daily..
thank you so much for watching...stay healthy, happy and safe..
There is a lot of lonely good men too don't let men like this change your view your probably absolutely beautiful!
I’m impressed with this guy! He’s self taught
Smart and savvy! Quite the business man.
33 right so many good men out there
@@patricegriffin6063 it's amazing how many inocent people get hurt because of money and material things. What happens to all the bs you buy when you die?
One of the best interviews about this certain topic I have ever come across..........open and honest to a point of course without totally incriminating himself.....
but you really get a understanding of what it is like to run a besiness like this on the scale that he ran it on.....mind blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a unbelievable outstanding interview.........
Now you know what a anti social narcissist sounds like.
I am studying pre-law + working to gain my national paralegal certification with hopes to reform the laws surrounding sex work/workers as a whole, and I must say, of all the podcast/vlogs I have seen/viewed pertaining to the subjects of Sexual assault/abuse ,etc. , these interviews really prove a point of gaining the whole story and understanding not only why sex work is such a vast industry but naming the perpetrators w/o censors and valuing society’s right to know predators(bc most of the time they are protected by our justice system). Thank you for all of the incredible and moving work that you do.
I hope you get to help a people
Be interesting if you researched New Zealand law and social effects as it's legal here.
I don'r understand why men available for sex for money isn't as huge a market as it is with women.
@@wilpri Yes in Japan. It's a culture thing
@@wilpriBecause 1)women don't want sex without attachment or 2) if they did, it's available free. The saying about prostitution is that a man doesn't pay her to stay, he pays her to leave. Men value no strings attached sex, women don't.
Thank you for recording and posting this interesting educational video.
I noticed he didn't say nothing about healthcare coverage, and screening for diseases
I thought the same thing
Women making 30k a month can spend 250 a month on their own healthcare lol
@@0110101100011010 forreal if you use condoms all the time its not that dangerous
I thought the same can you imagine some of the girls probably get paid for doing extra on the side.
He's running CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE in which he pays them a healthy annual salary every week. Are you also concerned about the health coverage of drug smugglers, and bookies?
Hes so personable and such a good story teller that you can imagine how these girls all believed his chat!
yup
He is also a conman. Search his name. Fadi Chaibon. Conned old ladies.
@@3117ism I could tell he's a snake but thts just hittin too low..
Are you joking
Yeah. Selling coke, ripping girls off. what a babe!
As my late daddy would have said, “This guy’s a total pop-in-jay!” Loosely translated-he’s a vain, talkative, thoughtless fool. 🤦♀️
But less honorable?
Yep. It's in the set of the chin, just for one.
@HGB 1 Power is in character, the love of money is a weakness.
totally an asshole, "gilipollas" in Spain.
i woulda liked your daddy
I had a good time listening to this! Thanks for the interview
Such an unsavory life. Listening to this makes me want to take a walk in the forest.
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It isn't all like this. Brothels are seedy though.
@@jetaboveclouds ok Doctor lol
@@jetaboveclouds what did he do wrong? He's right that it should be legal, drugs too. I didnt know it was possible to diagnose someone so accurately based off an interview like this. Maybe you're right, but I see a lot of assumptions in these comments
@@jetaboveclouds then what has he done wrong? Surely an evaluation interview would be a lot different to this one here. Is sociopathy even a diagnosis or would it be ASPD.
Could be titled, Portrait of a Narcissist.
Or portrait of a gay. Screaming tendencies
@@KUPHSER 💀
DEFINITELY NARCISSISTIC This man, Uhhggg 🤮
@@sophiajoyceferry7150 Are u a white woman?
@@penguinan2456 Are you a loser? Wait, nevermind, that's obvious.
This is probably the best interview of Machiavellianism I have ever seen. Clicked on the video with half interest, but once I realized what it really was I pulled up a chair and stayed a while. Amazing storytelling.
I don't think he fits the definition of machiavellianism. The definition usually means the person is dangerous and unsympathetic, completely narcissistic.... This guy sort of has ethical standards, I don't think that fits into a cold-hearted narcissist.
@janelleyharris5042 obviously you are not a good judge of character. Definitely machisvellianism
@@aubraehersel7720 calm down. No need to act arrogant and rude. You don't need to reply like that. It's not worth it.
Very fascinating watching a more refined pimp 😂
@janelleyharris5042 I'm sorry you are so confused and easily fooled by this predator. His supposed ethical standards are systems he put in place to sustain his ability to exploit vulnerable young girls with absolutely no empathy . It is absolutely apparent that he is a Narcissist and dangerous.
Wake the f
I have to give props to these interviewers finding characters out of the movie like these... how? Wowww
"In Vegas we made sometimes a million a month".. but 36 grand broke him.....
Right....his calculator must be broke 😒🙄
that's the gross income for the business, not his personal profit
That’s because the Fed’s took it all at that point
His story is so full of lies
@@coles5451 He said it was "just for him, not gross"
I get the feeling he made up 2/3 of his story; lying about himself and his work is a part of his life, its deeply ingrained in his persona.
Totally agree! My “liar” bells were ringing from the start.
Never trust someone who says they hate liars. It’s always 100% a projection of who they are
He sounds credible. I know someone else and the stories are 90 % same.
What exactly do you think he lied about?? I bet you can't tell me lmao😂
@@MohammedHassan-ht3sm ...Okay, I will give you one. For example, he claims that his girlfriend/fiancee, the dentist, did NOT know about his prostitution business. However, he mentioned that all of those sex apartments were ALL in her name. Wouldn't any normal person wonder, " Why is my boyfriend making me rent theses numerous apartments in my name ?" You don't think that is weird. They both live in a giant multi million dollar home together, and he rents all these apartments under her name.
However, he did the right thing because why should 2 people go down on a charge if 1 person will do. That is why he took the ENTIRE blame.
The girls are expendable...
Most were paying their student loans...
LET....THAT....SINK....IN
I had to let my student loans default because I WASN'T making 6 figures right after graduation, as many led me to believe. I broke my back trying to make the monthly payments for nearly 100K in loans, but it eventually became impossible.
Maybe I should have considered being a prostitute. 🤔
@@cactuscallie5090 Honestly, I now believe that most universities know that many of their students (female and male) are paying their way through school via some kind of on-line "prostitution" and they're perfectly okay with it. Academia is a rather narcissistic environment, sadly (not entirely, but personality pathology is present and overt in some instances).
I think the males WANT to keep it that way because it keeps a steady stream of sugar babies and live cam girls (and boys) on their laptop screens for spank material. Just ick!
I'm sorry you've had such a struggle. So many people struggle paying those loans or default altogether and just give up because they can barely pay rent.
The thought of the women doing this to pay off their student loans really sucks becz at the end of the day she ends up with her husband after all this escorting Nd she will never tell him she needs to take tht to her grave and this doesn't just happen with escorting it happens to celebrities aswel women seem to have to sleep their way to wer they wna be
@@herschellebenting7558 How interesting that the problem (in your mind) is not the fact that was damaging to their physical, mental and spiritual health, but that they may without this information from their spouse.
Your empathy is for the man....and seemingly entirely absent for what the females had to endure to pay off school debt while being able to afford their rent/food/car expenses. smh
That's telling....
I’m a domestic abuse survivor. My warning bells are clanging. Let’s hear the girls perspective.